Video summary
The video explores people pleasing not as a character flaw or an inherent personality trait, but rather as a brilliant survival adaptation developed in childhood to ensure safety. The speaker explains that when individuals grow up with unpredictable parents, conditional love, or chaotic environments where they must keep the peace, their nervous system learns that disapproval is physically dangerous. This leads to a fourth survival strategy known as "fawn," distinct from fight, flight, or freeze. In this state, a child appeases threats by becoming agreeable and useful so that danger feels happy with them; while effective for a dependent nine-year-old, these neural pathways remain active in adults who still react to social cues like text messages with physical panic, mistaking minor inconveniences for life-threatening situations.
The core mechanism driving this behavior is the brain's interpretation of social rejection as actual pain and injury due to evolutionary history where tribal exile meant death. The speaker emphasizes that people pleasing involves immediate self-abandonment because it provides instant relief from anxiety when others smile or say thank you, which reinforces the habit until it becomes an identity. However, true kindness cannot exist in this context; instead of being kind out of fear and compulsion to avoid danger, individuals must learn to choose kindness freely once they realize their safety is no longer dependent on pleasing others. The video argues that recognizing people pleasing as a learned survival response rather than weakness allows adults to understand why they continue these patterns despite having the resources and freedom to leave difficult situations behind.
To break this cycle, the speaker outlines a three-step process focused on awareness, pausing, and exposure therapy. First, individuals must learn to identify the specific physical sensations of fawning in their bodies before reacting verbally, such as chest tightness or stomach drops, without trying to fix them immediately. Second, they need to build a gap between receiving a request and responding by taking a breath and using a neutral phrase like "Let me check on a couple things and I'll get back to you," which creates the necessary space for their adult self rather than their traumatized child-self to make an authentic choice. Finally, the most difficult step involves building tolerance for disappointment through exposure therapy, where one allows others to be mildly annoyed without fixing it or over-explaining, thereby collecting evidence that disapproval does not result in death and retraining the nervous system to understand that speaking up is safe.
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Have you ever agreed to do something
that you didn't want to do and the word
yes just kind of flew out of your mouth
before you had a second to even think
about it? If that's happened to you, I
need you to hear something. You probably
have a nervous system that's been
trained since childhood to believe that
disappointing somebody else is
dangerous. And most people think that
people pleasing is just a part of who
they are. I don't. I think it's one of
the most brilliant survival adaptations
the human brain has ever created. The
problem is what kept you safe and loved
as a child is probably what's keeping
you stuck as an adult. And so today, I'm
going to teach you the psychology of
people pleasing, what's really happening
below the surface, why it exists, why
it's absolutely brilliant that you
developed it in childhood, and then I'm
going to give you a three-step process
to stop people pleasing, because you
need to learn how to release it if
you're going to create the life that you
want. Okay? So, let's dive in. So,
here's the thing you first need to
understand that might sting a little
bit, and that's fine. Just sit with it.
If you're a people pleaser, you're not
nice. Hold on. Don't just turn me off.
Let me explain what I mean by it. Okay.
What I'm saying is you're not a bad
person. I'm not saying that you're fake.
I'm not saying that you're manipulative.
I'm saying it is a survival response
that you learned in childhood. It is
compulsion. Do you get that? Because
it's a really important distinction
here. Like I think people think that
being a people pleaser is being kind and
it's really not. Kindness is a choice
that you make from a place of having
options. People pleasing is what happens
when your nervous system thinks that it
doesn't have any options.
Let that sit in for a second. Let me
explain it for you. Okay? [snorts]
Everybody listening knows about fight or
flight. You've probably heard it a
million times. Some of you know about
the third thing which is fight, flight
or freeze, which is something
threatening happens and your body either
fights back or it runs away or it locks
up and freezes. But there's a fourth one
that very few people know about and very
rarely do people talk about it and it's
the entire key to this episode. It's
called Thawn. And the term was coined by
a therapist named Pete Walker who did a
ton of work around complex trauma. And
what he identified is that there's a
fourth survival strategy that humans
developed. And it basically goes like
this. When danger shows up, you try to
make the danger like you. Think about
that for a second. Like you don't fight
it because you can't win. You don't run
from it because you can't leave. And you
don't freeze because freezing doesn't
fix the problem. So instead, you learn
to appease it. You become useful to it.
You become agreeable or helpful or easy
or lowmaintenance,
whatever it needs you to be. Because if
the threatening thing is happy with you,
then you're safe. And guess what? That
means that it worked. The thing I need
you to understand though is that it
works incredibly well and that's why you
still do it. And so where did all of
this come from? Because nobody comes out
of the womb with this. Like I promise
you, you were not born this way. You
were not born a people pleaser. It
almost always starts in your childhood
home. Maybe you grew up with a parent
whose mood was unpredictable. Like this
is very, very common. I hear it all the
time. You never knew which version of
them was going to walk through the door
at 6:00. So, you learned to basically
read them at a very high level. And we
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show. You got really good at reading
them so that you could tell from like
the sound of their car door closing what
kind of night it was going to be. You
could tell from the way that they set
their keys down. You could tell from the
way that they walked around the house
without a word being said. You mastered
the art of pattern recognition in them.
Or maybe you're a people pleaser, but
you didn't have a chaotic parent like
that. Maybe nobody was screaming in the
house. Maybe it was quieter.
Maybe love in your house was just like
conditional. When you performed, you got
love. When you didn't, you didn't. And
that person was cold to you. And so, you
learned that love isn't something you
receive. It's something that you have to
earn every single day over and over
again until it was hardwired into you.
Or another example is like maybe you
were a kid who kept the peace. Maybe
your parents were fighting a lot and you
learned that if you were funny enough or
good enough or quiet enough that you
could lower like the the temperature of
the room. And so you became the the
emotional thermostat for the entire
family before you were like 9 years old.
And that's very common. All three of
those situations are very, very common
in people that I've coached over the
years, but also very common in people
pleasers. And here's what I want you to
really sit with. That was genius as a
child. Do you understand it? Cuz so many
people hate it. So many people think
that it's weakness. It's not weakness.
It was a brilliant adaptation by a small
human who had no power, no money, no
car, no ability to just leave the house
whenever they wanted to. It was somebody
who was completely dependent on the
adults in that household for survival.
And so that kid did the smartest thing
possible. It's [ __ ] brilliant if I'm
being honest with you. That kid learned
how to keep everybody okay because if
everyone else was okay, that kid was
okay, right? You were not being a
doormat. You were being a survivor. It's
a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant
protection mechanism. The problem though
is that you're not 9 years old anymore.
You might be 45 years old and you've
built your own life. But you have to ask
yourself like why if it was happening
then and I'm 40 years old now, why is it
still happening in my body? Because that
wiring didn't come out when you turned
18 or when you moved out of the house or
when you got married or when you had
children of your own. Nobody uninstalled
the wiring. It's still there. And that's
why you're, you know, 34 or 47 or 78 and
you have a life and you have a job and
you have your own family and nobody in
your house is dangerous and you still do
it. You scan the room every time you
walk into it and you know within 4
seconds whether a person you're talking
to is annoyed. You still apologize when
somebody bumps into you.
My gosh, how many of you guys do that?
or you still say like, "Sorry to bother
you." When you send an email to a person
that's one of your employees. And here's
the thing that everybody listening is
going to recognize.
Somebody sends you a text message and it
says, "Hey, can we talk later?" And your
entire body drops. Your stomach goes
hollow. Your chest gets really tight.
Your heart rate goes up. Your breath
gets really shallow. And so you spend
the next like two hours building fake
scenarios in your head about what you
did wrong and how to fix it. And what
you have to realize is that nothing has
actually happened. Nothing is wrong in
that moment. It was just four words on a
screen.
So what's actually going on in your body
in these types of moments? Your
amygdala, which is a threat detection
part of your brain, has flagged the
possibility of somebody being upset with
you as danger, actual physical danger.
same system that would fire if you saw a
snake. And this is not me being dramatic
at all. There's a neuroscientist named
Naomi Eisenberger who did some really
fascinating research on this. And what
she found was that social rejection
lights up the same parts of the regions
of your brain that processes physical
pain, the same circuitry. Which means
your brain says they might be mad at me,
but your body is not filing it under
like inconvenience. It's filing it under
injury. Because for most of human
history, it was true. For a couple
hundred thousand years, if the tribe
rejected you, you didn't go find a new
tribe, you died alone in the dark, in
the cold. So, your brains built this
incredibly sensitive alarm system around
social disapproval. And if you grew up
in a house where love was conditional or
where your parents mood was
unpredictable, that alarm got tuned way,
way up. And it's like a smoke detector
that goes off every single time you make
toast. There's no fire, right? Like it's
not something to worry about. There
never has been a fire, but that thing is
just like screaming inside of you. And
so that's the thing that makes it stop.
And so what do you do that makes all of
it stop? You say yes. You overexlain.
You apologize when you don't need to.
You take on the project because you
can't say no. You go to the dinner when
you wanted to be by yourself. you take
all of the blame when it wasn't even
your blame in the first place, right?
And you know, here's the part where it
becomes really, really hard to break.
And I want you to pay close attention to
this. So, here is the part that becomes
really hard for you to break, okay? And
I want you to really pay attention to
this part. When you fawn, you actually
get relief immediately. That anxiety in
your chest goes away. They smile. They
say thank you. The tension drops out of
the room. Your body floods with relief.
[sighs]
I can breathe again. Your brain goes,
"Okay, that worked. Do it again." And so
you do it again and again and again and
again thousands of times a year. And
after enough repetitions, it stops
becoming a behavior that you do. And it
becomes so automatic that you think that
it's the person that you are. It becomes
an identity. Oh, I I'm just the reliable
one. I'm the one that everybody else
comes to. I'm the strong one. I'm the
one who holds it all together. And that
identity feels good. People praise you
for it. They call you selfless. They
call you their rock. So now, not only is
your nervous system addicted to that
relief, but your ego is getting fed by
that reputation as well. You are being
rewarded constantly for, get this,
abandoning yourself.
Do you get that? Do you see it? People
pleasing is selfabandonment.
Okay. So, what do we do to change all of
it? This whole situation is not your
fault. You did not sit down at 8 years
old and choose to be this way. It was
installed into you by an environment
that you didn't pick, that you wanted to
feel safe in. But it is your
responsibility to change it because no
one's coming to undo this for you. And
if you don't do it, you'll just keep
repeating the same pattern and you'll
pass it down to your kids the exact same
way it got passed down to you. And so,
let me give you the the step- by-step
process, the three-step process to stop
people pleasing. Okay? Number one is to
catch it in your body before you catch
it in your head. Let me explain what I
mean. You are probably never going to
outthink this in the moment. Because at
this point, it fires faster than
thought. It's in the subconscious under
the conscious processing. You don't
notice these thoughts that are so fast
and under your conscious processing. And
so by the time your conscious mind shows
up, you already said yes. So what you
want to do is stop trying to catch the
thought cuz [snorts] you're probably not
going to catch it and try to catch the
sensation. Learn what fawn actually
feels like to you physically in your
body. For most people, it's like a
tightening of the chest. It's a drop in
the stomach or butterflies or like a a
heat in the face or your shoulders
coming up and getting tightened. There's
a specific feeling and you know the one
I'm talking about. You need to find out
which one it is for you. You need to
identify yours. And your only job first
more than anything else, I don't want
you to change it yet. Is to just start
to notice it. That's it. Don't try to
fix it. Don't try to do anything
differently. Just go, "Oh, there it is.
There's the alarm. That's the alarm that
I'm looking for." That is awareness. And
you cannot change a single thing that
you're not aware of. So the single most
important thing that you must first
build is this awareness and the way it
feels inside of your body. Okay, that's
number one. Number two, I just want you
to simply build a gap between the ask
and the answer. Let me tell you what I
mean. This whole thing lives in speed.
The yes is automatic because there's
zero space between the request and your
response. So you need to start actually
trying to build the space. What do I
mean by that? You don't ever say yes
immediately. If you're about to say yes,
learn to take a quick breath, whether
it's something you actually want to say
yes to or something you might be people
pleasing, and just learn to pause for a
second before you ever say yes, and you
build it. If you feel like, "Oh my gosh,
this is something that I don't really
want to be saying yes to," then what you
do is you build the gap with one
sentence that I want you to practice out
loud until it's boring. And the sentence
is this. Let me check on a couple things
and I'll get back to you.
Simple. Oh my god, it's so simple,
right? Not easy, simple. So, when you
notice you're about to say yes to
something, even if it's something you
want to say yes to, just pause for a
second. Build a self-awareness. How am I
feeling inside of my body? Is this
something that's a full hell yes to me
or is this something feel like I might
be abandoning my true self? And if it
feels like in this little bit of a gap
that we have started that I might be
abandoning myself, I'm just going to
say, "Let me check on a couple things
and I'll get back to you." That's it.
That's the whole move. You don't have to
say no. Saying no be it feels scary to
you. It should be feeling no like should
feel scary to you because you've never
really had a whole lot of proof that
saying no is not dangerous. So don't say
no. I don't want you to say no. You just
don't have to say yes yet. Because the
second that you have 20 minutes to think
about it because you said that sentence,
you get to not react out of compulsion.
And your actual true self gets to have
an opinion.
You today at the age you are right now
gets to have an opinion. not the
8-year-old version of you that built a
pattern from trauma. And you will be
shocked how often, given 20 minutes of
just thinking, the answer is actually
no, when you would have just said yes.
And if it's not easy for you, practice
in the mirror, practice in the car when
you're driving. It's going to feel
really difficult saying this, and it
sounds crazy. It's going to feel
difficult. It will feel difficult the
first like 10 times you do it. Just do
it anyways, right? You're learning how
to finally speak for yourself. Let me
check on a couple things and I'll get
back to you. Okay, that's number two.
And number three, you have to build a
tolerance for somebody being
disappointed in you. [sighs]
Oh [ __ ] What? Yes, that's like the real
work. Everything else, number one and
two, that's all warm-up. Because here's
the thing. Every single time you fawn,
you learn to teach your nervous system
that disapproval is genuinely dangerous.
You never let yourself find out that
disapproval is not going to kill you.
And so you've been running from that
snake for 40 years and you've never
turned around once and actually even
looked at it. And the way that you
change that feeling to disapproval is
exposure to it. It's exposure therapy.
So you start small, like really, really
small. You let somebody be mildly
annoyed with you and you don't fix it,
right? You don't answer a text within 4
seconds. You let it sit for two hours.
You say something like, "That doesn't
work for me." when you would have
normally said yes. And then you just
shut up and you stop talking and you
don't feel the silence and you don't
overexlain and you don't give them a
whole five sentence justification.
You just say that doesn't work for me or
you say like, "I'd rather not to
somebody this week to anybody about
anything. I don't really care." it. It's
really just comes with the actual
exercise to sit in the discomfort and
watch what happens. Feel the alarm go
off inside of you. Everything's going to
go crazy. Let it feel terrible and then
notice 20 minutes later, you're still
here. You're not dead. Nobody left. The
world didn't end. That other person's
completely fine. You didn't die. That's
how you retrain your nervous system to
actually understand that it's not
dangerous. And so you're collecting
evidence that it's not dangerous to not
fawn and to speak up for yourself. And
so I want to leave you with this.
Somewhere in you, there's a child who
figured out the fastest way to be safe
was to be whatever somebody else or
everybody else needed. And that kid was
smart. That kid did their job. That kid
got you here. But that kid is still
running the system. And you're an adult
now. You have your own house. You have
your own money. You have your own car
keys. You can leave any room that you
want to. You're not stuck in the house
anymore. Nobody in your life today has
the power over you that the people in
your house did when you were a child.
You are safe now. Your nervous system
just has not gotten the memo. So your
work is not to become mean, not to
become cold, not to stop caring about
people because caring that's real.
That's beautiful. I don't want you to
lose that. Your work is to become
somebody who is kind by choice instead
of by fear because that's when it
actually becomes true kindness. Hey,
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