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An Antidote To Shame - Mel Robbins

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In this discussion on self-compassion, Mel Robbins argues that being overly hard on oneself acts as a significant roadblock to intrinsic motivation and sustained progress. She illustrates how constant self-castigation prevents individuals from feeling good about their actions, making it difficult to maintain momentum even when they are acting like the person they want to be. Instead of pushing for more with a "chip on your shoulder," Robbins suggests shifting one's mindset to celebrate small wins, such as holding two jobs or managing energy well throughout the day. By treating oneself and others with encouragement rather than criticism, individuals can create an unbelievable sense of internal momentum that allows them to 10x their results in areas already going well. The conversation extends these principles into leadership and business contexts, where Robbins advises leaders to stop hyperfixating on failures or minor mistakes while ignoring the multitude of things people do correctly every day. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing positive actions like answering emails, attending meetings despite perceived waste, showing kindness during difficult times for others, and quickly apologizing for tone issues. This approach counters the tendency to dump stress onto loved ones by checking one's energy at the door before leaving work. By focusing on what is going right rather than dwelling solely on errors, leaders can foster a more positive environment that acknowledges human effort without falling into self-oriented or other-oriented perfectionism traps. Robbins explores the complex tension between maintaining high standards and accepting imperfection in both oneself and others. She describes her philosophy as possessing "ruthless compassion," which involves demanding excellence based on one's current capability rather than an impossible standard of perfection. For instance, if a person can only give 40% effort on a specific day due to circumstances, they have still operated with excellence by giving their best under those conditions. However, this high standard does not extend to tolerating rudeness or allowing personal emergencies to become others' problems within her company. This balance requires significant self-awareness and self-control to ensure that one's stress levels do not negatively impact interactions with vendors, partners, or colleagues. A central theme of the dialogue is mastering the art of distinguishing between what is controllable and what is not, a concept Robbins simplifies into two phrases: "let them" and "let me." Saying "let them" serves as a cue to recognize when external factors like other people's moods, opinions, or behaviors are penetrating one's mental space; it acknowledges that these elements are outside of personal control. Conversely, saying "let me" reminds individuals that life is ultimately defined by only three things: what you think about, what happens around you (the settings in your mind), and how you choose to respond through action. Robbins shares a personal revelation from her first fifty-four years where emotions ran her over like chemical explosions she could not control, contrasting this with the skill of allowing those emotions to rise and fall while intentionally choosing one's response. Ultimately, the discussion concludes that balancing autonomy, intentionality, acceptance, and bias for action is an artistic endeavor rather than a simple task, though it becomes simpler when applied consistently. Robbins notes that shifting from a mindset where external frustrations dictate internal states to one where individuals choose their responses creates a powerful directional signal in life. This shift allows people to square the circle of having high standards while accepting human fallibility, ensuring that they do not let outside forces hold too much power over them. The dialogue reinforces that true excellence is found in showing up with whatever capacity exists today and managing one's internal settings so that emotional reactions serve as data points for intentional choice rather than drivers of behavior.
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What have you learned about self-compassion? Because in this I can imagine an awful lot of self-castigation. >> Yeah. >> What have you learned about self-compassion? >> That I would have probably had results faster if I had not been so hard on myself. It is very difficult to be motivated when in terms of like continuing to keep going and the intrinsic motivation because you start to feel good that you're acting like the person that you want to be when you have a chip on your shoulder and you're constantly well okay but you could have done this. Oh okay great that you're working two jobs but you better get a third. And the power, it sounds so cheesy, but the power of learning how to change the settings in your mind so that you 10x on the things that are going well. And you call out, "Good job on that. Good job on that. I'm proud of you for getting two jobs. You're you're doing enough today. Like you're doing a lot. Actually, there's something about shifting that tough love mentality with yourself once you kind of have that first breakthrough and becoming more of an encourager. And I think this is true about business too. You know, if you if you are a person that wants to be a great leader, stop focusing on the things that are going wrong and triple down on what you see people doing well. Because when you triple down and you pull out because you don't realize people do like a hundred things great every day, but we personally hyperfixate on the one thing that didn't go well as if it's the only thing that you did today and you forget you answered 73 emails. Great job. You showed up for those seven Zoom meetings that were a waste of your time. Great job. You were kind to the person that was having a really hard day. Good job. You managed your energy well and instead of coming home and just dumping your stress on everybody and then blaming work for it, treating the people that you care the most the worst, you checked yourself at the door. Good job. Yeah, you might not have gotten that thing. You may have like had a lousy tone of voice with that person, but you you apologize pretty quickly. Good job. Like when you can start to notice the things you're doing well, it creates this unbelievable sense of momentum inside of you because you're not kind of like self-criticism is like this roadblock where you stop your own like momentum. Have you ever been in a meeting where you know you're brainstorming with people and it's like in a flow and there's one person that's like well you're like what dude like read the room and that that was a huge revelation to me and it's it's a huge part of my philosophy in terms of the way that I lead. >> Yes. and as opposed to no but because the no but feels like it's slowing everything down. So what I'm what I'm interested in >> is trying to square >> all of the different circles that we've got going on here. So >> in one hand we have a lot of autonomy, intentionality, a kind of ruthlessness with decision-m a bias for action. >> Yes. >> Um on the other we have uh a focus on what's going well not what's going wrong. Mhm. >> We have a uh degree of understanding uh and acceptance of where you have fallen short and where other people fall short too. So self-oriented perfectionism is reduced, other oriented perfectionism is also reduced. >> But then we have this balance between letting things happen, >> uh life happening to us or life happening to other people perhaps >> and us happening to life. trying to find the middle of the ven diagram of all of these uh doesn't seem superbly simple, right? I'm going to make a change. That's on me. >> Mhm. >> I'm going to accept myself when I fall short, but also have high standards. >> This tension. Uh I am going to let other people show their behavior in a manner that allows me to judge them. >> Uhhuh. >> But I'm also going to hold boundaries in a way which means that they're not crossed. >> Yeah. This seems uh art almost artistic in the ability to balance all of these things. >> It's the simplest thing in the world. It really is. Um I am probably I would imagine you're this way. I'm one of the most intentional people in the world and I think a lot about the outcome that I am driving toward and what I'm doing and why and that becomes a directional signal that I can point toward and a lot of my intentionality you know I'll just give an example like we were ruthless and I love that you use that word because I feel like I'm a person that has ruthless compassion like I have the highest standards in the world for myself. I demand a level of excellence which does not mean perfectionism. >> It means showing up to the best of my capability today. And you know, if I'm on a day where I can only give 40% and I gave 40%, I I actually operated with excellence. But I operate with a level of excellence that also demands excellence in the way that you interact with other people. I will not tolerate rudeness. I will not tolerate that you make your emergencies other people's emergencies in my company. I will not tolerate uh people uh being short with other people that we're working with, whether it's vendors or partners, that it takes a level of self-awareness and self-control to be able to check your own energy and not make your stress somebody else's. And so that's a fine line. But in terms of the let them, you know, like what are other people responsible for? what am I responsible for? >> It's so simple. It is such a simple construct when you really start to apply it because the four words whether you're talking about moments when you say let them you're just cuing to yourself moments where the outside world or other people whether it's their opinions, their moods, their stress, their behavior, their expectations, their emotions where they are penetrating your brain space or they're penetrating your stress levels. That's all that it is. It's a When you say let them, you are recognizing that you're in a moment where something outside of your control is frustrating you or stressing you out. And you are queuing yourself to not allow something outside of you to hold that much power over you. And when you say let me, you remind yourself that there's in life there's only three things you got. That's it. It's what you think about what's happening and that's the settings in your mind that we keep coming back to. It's what you do or don't do in response to it. And it is your the skill that you can develop of knowing that when those emotions, the chemical explosions in your body that you will never be able to control, when those emotions fire off, do you have the skill to let them rise and fall and then choose intentionally how you're going to respond or do those emotions run you over? And for the first 50 year, four years of my life, my emotions ran me over. 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