Zro Talk J Prince Pimp C, Scarface Mo City Don, Slim Thug, Bun B Lil Keke, AL D 300 Street Military

like and how long did it take you to write that get thrown? >> I mean, I was thrilled when I wrote it, so it ain't take me long. And and then Mike Dean house, yeah, it wasn't nothing sober around that [ __ ] So you I probably was coming out of whatever the [ __ ] I was coming out of to be able to record that [ __ ] >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. It's a unique hustle, [ __ ] >> Check check. It's a unique house. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Mr. Maker. What's going on? >> None. I want you all to stop what you're doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us from all social media platforms. When I mean all, I mean all I mean on Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, Snapchat. You name it, we're on it. Just Google us Ball Talk Podcast 101. We'll pop up first in line. I guarantee you. But y'all see us on the streets and talk about, "Man, I love what y'all doing. Keep up the good work. How can we be a part of Ball Talk?" This is how you can be a part of Ball Talk. under each and every interview, including this one right here in the description section below. There's a link that says join our membership. Click that link, follow all the instructions, and that's how you get to see all the exclusive content y'all been asking us. Where's this interview? Where's that interview? You got to be a member to see it. Or go ahead and download our app at Boss Talk101 on any Apple or Google store. Thank you and we love you, >> man. Listen, guys. I'm in Htown, boy. It's going down for real today. I ain't going to lie to y'all. I've been waiting on this interview, man. It's certain people I got to sit down with in order for me to know that I'm podcasting in this hole, man. There's a lot of [ __ ] that do it, but they don't do it like E. I ain't gonna play. I got one today. That's why I'm so cocky right now >> because you represent the South. >> I represent Texas to the heart, man. And this [ __ ] right here, man. One of the ones I can put on that list and say, "Nigga, y'all y'all ain't rocking like this." My [ __ ] the most city done. Zero is in the goddamn building, man. What's up, baby? >> Best by the best. I've been waiting on this one, man. I ain't going to lie to you, man. Listen, man. I'mma tell you right now, man. I'm excited cuz I already know the music catalog, bro. That's the thing. Like, when you watch Boss Talk, I'm so excited about the music. These [ __ ] don't even That's what it's about. You know what I'm saying? And if we get back to that, then we can make the [ __ ] see cuz y'all already The music is so dope. It's already good enough. But we got to do our part and make sure we we we put it in the right places. We put, you know what I mean? Cater to it the right way, man. So, I appreciate you for everything you done done, man. Not just for Texas, but for the South, my [ __ ] >> I appreciate it. [laughter] >> That's what I do. >> All righty. Let's get to it, Miss Jamaica. >> So, they call you the Mo City, Don. So, you born and raised in Mo City? >> No. >> So, where were you born and raised? >> Well, we going to say uh Southeast Houston. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Southeast Houston. And I migrated. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, how old were you when you migrated? >> I don't know. It was a >> teenager or before that >> school up in there somewhere. I mean, you know, I was I was everywhere cuz uh you know, people on our sides of town and [ __ ] like that, but >> Mhm. >> you know, uh Harm Clark, Tone Ball, you know what I'm saying? [ __ ] South Park, Trinity Gardens, >> man. Hold up. >> I was everywhere. So, >> it was everywhere. >> Yeah, I was everywhere. >> Okay. So, were you raised in the household with your mom and dad? >> No. >> Hell no. >> Who raised you? >> [ __ ] Auntie and grandmama. That's who raised me. And then uh and then the streets after that. >> And the streets. So really the streets was like your male role models then cuz So who was your male role model growing up? >> Grandmama was harder than the streets. >> Really? >> Yeah. So you don't believe cuz I keep hearing people always tell me a woman can't teach a man a boy how to become a man. >> She can't. >> You need a ma male role model to do that? >> Yeah. >> So where when did he not come? Did you not have that? >> So who taught you how to be the man you are today? Just them. >> Me? >> You? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Mhm. Yeah. They was just harder than the streets. The streets ain't [ __ ] Streets are not real. So yeah. And what they was given was real. >> Give me an example. >> I mean, [ __ ] I mean, you know, you [ __ ] up, you get your ass whooped. >> Mhm. >> That's I mean, that's what your your male role model going to do. >> You know what I'm saying? You do some [ __ ] you get for celebrated purposes, you going to get celebrated. You know what I'm saying? And >> I mean, it wasn't no gender. It was just, you know, do this, do what you supposed to do. Uh, when the streets came, then I got a chance to put my own masculinity into effect. >> Okay? cuz it was no [ __ ] to do that. >> Okay. Cuz being a mother, um, and I hear the reason why I like to ask a lot of these questions because you have females or males who have children who are trying to figure out how to whether keep them out the streets or direct them in the right path. And we want to learn from whether your mistakes or the things that you've been through. So if your advice can help somebody, that's what we're here for. But at the same time, when you say a female can't make a man, a boy become a man, >> I'm thinking about, well, you still ended up doing the street thing or being in the streets and stuff like that, but some moms be like, okay, how can I stop my son from doing that? >> You can't. >> Nah, you can't. Maybe is I mean, you can delay it. You can offset it. >> So, a man could though. A man could stop a boy from becoming a part of the streets. >> No, >> no, >> no. only you going to do that for yourself. No matter what your dad, your mom or surrogate, whatever the [ __ ] it is, you going you going to decide that for yourself. >> I mean, you're an influence, but I'm not going to do what you tell me to do just cuz you told me to. >> Okay? [clears throat] >> You know what I'm saying? I'm going to ultimately do what I want to do >> regardless. >> But I mean, if I got a certain type of respect for you, then I mean, >> I might lie and tell you I ain't going to [laughter] do it. >> Still going to do it. >> So, you know, [ __ ] like no RP grandma daughter. I wasn't supposed to get no more tattoos. She not here no more. She can see me. She can't talk [ __ ] to me though. SO I'M [laughter] >> EAT ALL THE way up, baby. >> She told you not to get no more. [laughter] >> I mean, you know, she you know, she mean well, but I mean, you know, she can't stop me. You know, she couldn't stop me. You know what I'm saying? Auntie is still here. She tell me to do some [ __ ] And I mean, out of respect for her, I'm not going to do it. >> Mhm. M or if she looking >> if she looking. >> If she looking, man. Go ahead. >> Um, you say your auntie and grandma raised you, but where was mom and dad? >> Uh, dead and and then somebody else house. >> Wow. >> Dead. How did they both of them died? >> Going all. No, not both of them. But I mean, they both dead now, but they just wasn't there. >> They just wasn't there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Cuz I know Okay. Okay. You don't want to go cuz I was I was curious about one thing cuz in a rap song that you did, you said you found your mom. >> Mhm. >> So, how old were you? >> Six. >> Did that trauma because you have a lot of people I've had interviewed other people who have went through that. >> No trauma >> didn't affect you. >> I don't know you at 6 years old. >> No, but actually finding a body and knowing that >> I found a body at 13. >> But I mean at 6 years old, how you going to even know what that mean? So it was no trauma. It was just like my mama not here no more. >> That's real. Really? >> So I mean you don't know nobody at six well enough to to understand what they did. >> That's real. >> So it was no trauma. >> And that's the that's the crazy thing that people say because have you ever met people who say, "Oh, I remember stuff from four years old." >> Yeah. I mean I >> I don't remember stuff like that. >> I remember stuff, but I mean it I mean but you not going to remember a lot of it cuz you was only four. >> You know what I remember? I remember my ass whoopings. That's the only thing I can remember cuz I burnt the house at about four. I I put a heater in a box. >> Yeah. >> I remember that ass with I could see we just put when I went to my home place that burning on the on the >> I didn't get a lot of them. >> Yeah. I I got that ass. >> You never They didn't >> I mean I wouldn't I was your only child. >> I wasn't [ __ ] up though. >> Oh, really? So you a good kid? >> I wasn't good, but I just went [ __ ] up. Oh, >> okay. >> Yeah, I was messing up some [ __ ] I was terrorizing. >> I'm not sneaking out. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm not staying out past the street light. I'm not going on the next block. I'm just doing what the [ __ ] they tell me to do. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, you know, I mean, [ __ ] I wouldn't [ __ ] up with them. I had respect. So, [ __ ] if they told me I can't go outside for two weeks, I'm not going to ask outside. I'm going just [ __ ] it. I'm going to find something to do in here. >> You know what I'm saying? I had I had that I had that convict mentality at an early age. You take outside away from me, cool. I don't need outside. I'm going to make my outside in here. >> Really? >> So, I mean I mean I know how to think. >> That's all. A lot of [ __ ] didn't know how to think. I know how to think. Like, [ __ ] I'm going to be mad. I got a Sega Genesis in here. You know what I'm saying? I can go in the backyard and shoot them my own goal. I just can't go on the street. So, I mean, what be mad? >> That's hard. That's hard. I get it. >> And then a lot of people who are only kids, they know how to play and do stuff by themselves. They didn't need to have somebody with them all the time. So, that made you also as you get older, are you a loner because of that? No, I'm just lon cuz I don't like [ __ ] [laughter] I ain't like [ __ ] back then neither. So go outside for what? >> Like I'mma go out there because I want to hoop and I want to dunk on you. I can't just keep doing this [ __ ] on my I can't just keep playing a selfmade 21 every goddamn [laughter] day just shooting layers getting my own rebounds and [ __ ] Like I want to come out here and hoop myself. >> Yeah. So I mean I would [ __ ] with people but I wouldn't really [ __ ] with people out here. Like this whole time probably about seven friends all through school. >> That's real. That's real. >> Seven [ __ ] >> So as you become became who you are like celebrity status, you didn't have to go through shedding people because you know how you start showing your true color because you didn't have the people following you then. If that's the case, I'm talking surrounding you. >> No, >> you didn't have to go through all of that. >> No, >> that's crazy. Nobody surrounded. Yeah, it was nobody surround. I mean, you know, you got people in your neighborhood that you rock with. >> Mhm. >> Maybe they know you uh lyrical a little bit. Maybe they want to help you go to the studio in the first beginning because they want something from it. Or maybe maybe they want to see you make it. Whatever the case is, what I mean, when that [ __ ] came out, I mean, being from the hood I was from, Yeah. you had your homeboys that they was there because we was kicking it at the time. >> Wow. But I mean, if we wasn't kicking it, then I mean, they probably wouldn't have been there. >> That's hard. >> Do you have kids? >> Since you didn't have your mom and dad that you don't remember anything about that, is there anything that you do with your kids to overcompensate you not having certain things when you were younger? >> You don't. >> Cuz I know a lot of people probably do things like that cuz I've heard that before. >> Well, I mean, I ain't going to say I didn't have nothing. I just didn't get it from my mama. from meaning like because I always think that even people saying oh I had role models I had my auntie or ma but it's a different thing when it's your mama and your daddy >> well I mean I wouldn't know that >> here here here's the thing you got to understand even when you do know that ain't no book to write on how to be no damn parent >> well the thing [snorts] about it is she from what I know Sandra Matthews is my mom >> there you go >> in my mama's absence so I couldn't so I couldn't I couldn't agree with that >> okay so that's how you knew how to become a parent is her example. >> Well, I knew how to be a good person from her. She ain't show me how to raise no kids. She showed me how to be a good person. That's hard. She show And I mean, that's all cuz if you a good person, then you going to be a good parent. You ain't going to just child abuse the [ __ ] out of your kids. You know what I'm saying? You ain't going to just, >> oh, let me put some lights in her name and all that whole ass [ __ ] Like, you I [laughter] didn't have to go through that [ __ ] So, I mean, I'm just going to emulate the goodness that that her and Dorothy Matthews, you know, put upon me. I mean, you know, I got to try to do the, you know, the right thing because I would rather be right. Cuz I mean, like I'm telling you, as a child, if I'm not going to just let me sneak out the window, going to try to [ __ ] this girl. Nah, I'mma sit in this [ __ ] cuz my curfew hit. >> That's right. >> I'll see this little [ __ ] tomorrow at school. You know [laughter] what I'm saying? And I ain't hard up like that or nothing. So, you know, it's just as a child, I was trying to do the right [ __ ] So, as a grownup, I'm going to do the right [ __ ] >> man. >> I slip every now and then, slap [ __ ] out of somebody with that, [laughter] you know. >> No, everybody go through that. >> Yeah, you know. >> Plus, I think they they this big for a reason. [laughter] I got to use them hoes sometime, >> man. Let Let me Let's get on this music thing, man. When you How old was you when you first cuz I do this music thing, man. How old was you when you first picked that pen up or or first wrote your first rhyme or understood what a 16 was? >> I don't know. >> You just started writing. >> I don't know. I was doing I mean, you know, the little [ __ ] was liking them poetry [ __ ] So I start just roses is [laughter] red, [ __ ] is brown. If you like me, [ __ ] pull your pants out. [laughter] You know what I'm saying? Something like that. >> So I was going to be a poetry [ __ ] [laughter] you know? I cut me a little Gumby in my [ __ ] That [ __ ] look weak cuz I got a egg [laughter] and I was like, you know, I was a to be a not to be [ __ ] for a little while. Damn. Start making the ending words rhyme and just start making music out that [ __ ] >> man. Listen. And and and when did you know like this I'mma do this for real? >> I still don't know. >> Get the hell out of here, babe. Boy, you you cold as a damn stop playing. [ __ ] I mean, yeah, I'm cold, but I mean, you know, [ __ ] this ain't this ain't what I am or who I am or nothing. It's just something I be doing, and that makes me quite rich, [laughter] you know? Like, I still don't know, though, because I'm I'm not I'm not I mean, like them like that New York Time article said, the the underration and all that [ __ ] Like for me to be for the for it to be beyond my understanding, other [ __ ] from other planes are understanding like this motherfucker's here. He's supposed to be here. >> Yeah. >> So when I go to some [ __ ] like that, then I can probably respect what you saying. >> I get it, man. But I I don't like the scale. Who who who the hell making the scale? >> It don't matter who make the scale. Uh to me I look at you know uh if you look at where I'm going to go sell out a crowd and what Drake going to go sell out of crowd talking about two different things. >> I got you. I got you. >> So we talking about two different things but you talking about me and this man in the same conversation then you make it make sense. >> I feel you. I feel where you're going with it. >> So it's kind of like it's kind of like when I was just in that 300 only. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I wasn't going to sign your autograph if your car was better than mine. [ __ ] [laughter] you in you in the bin. Give me your autograph. I'm like, Jay got me in a little 300 right now. I don't [ __ ] you. Give me your autograph, >> man. I love that about you. Your re the realness of just being who you are unapologetically. You know what I'm saying? That's hard as hell to be honest with you. You got to respect it. You have no other choice cuz I'm just giving you who I am. You know what I'm saying? So, so when it come down to it, bro, my first you man, your [ __ ] go way back, bro. I'm gonna be honest with you, man. you one of them ones that like I said when I thought I come home I got out of trouble I heard about Zero I said man zero man but I didn't know I came to Houston I think I was at Greens Point Mall or something [ __ ] like man you heard that new Zero I'm like no I ain't heard it you know I'm trying to figure it out you know I'm I'm really just just you know checking everything out and I listen now I said this [ __ ] here hard as hell bro this [ __ ] putting these rhymes together man like who how do you I I I go even deeper when it come down to like beats selection and stuff like that. Pac had an issue according to uh uh what's the [ __ ] What's what's the boy name? Uh the one that passed too um the one the lightkinned boy with him do what you like. Humpty Hump. >> Mhm. >> He he basically was saying that that that uh uh Sh the one that put your satin on your panties. He was saying that P couldn't pick a beat, right? He say I had to pick that when he picked the I get around. He found that he had to get get the beats for him. You know what I'm saying? How do a zero figure out, okay, this is the beat I like? And is are you dope at that? >> I mean, [ __ ] I mean, you just hear some [ __ ] you like. >> I got you. >> You hear some [ __ ] you like or maybe I, you know, maybe I have an idea for some [ __ ] when I feel like rapping. I have idea for something, you know, I pull the board out myself and play some [ __ ] Maybe I send that [ __ ] to another producer, tell them add it. I mean, it's it's no there's no routine to that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? I might get in the car when I leave here and see some [ __ ] and get motivated. Like it's it's just really a feeling. It's not It ain't nothing that you can really explain. I mean I mean if you're a music [ __ ] like you say, when you hear some [ __ ] you hear some [ __ ] >> For sure. For sure. >> And then nobody else hear what you hear, but you hear that [ __ ] so you can bring that [ __ ] to life. So that's all that [ __ ] is with me. Like I I I got a lot of [ __ ] because I've always owned my own studio like ever since >> Christmas 04. >> So So of course I'm going to have a lot of songs cuz this [ __ ] going to always be upstairs. You know what I'm saying? But I mean it's just it's just uh when you not forcing it. Like I ain't got to go do no studio time now. So that [ __ ] is cool because >> I ain't got to go over here and just depend on this 4hour time that I'mma get over here and then try to compile all this [ __ ] into this little time frame. I can take all [ __ ] month writing one verse if I want to. >> That take the stress out. >> I'm not going to know. You know what I mean? >> That's right. That's right. >> And then I then the beat. I mean people send me beats all the time. You know what I'm saying? >> Package of them. >> Pug going to send me some beat. >> Shout out Pug. You hear that, man? That's my You know, he belong here. That's my dog. >> I ain't know. >> Yeah, that's my dog, man. >> Pug going to send me some [ __ ] Exo going to send me some [ __ ] >> That's hard. That's a bad boy, >> man. Jeh going to send me some [ __ ] like you know uh Mika and his brother you know they going to get [ __ ] from everywhere and then you know I got [ __ ] I still ain't listen to cuz I mean [ __ ] sending [ __ ] for years >> it's a lot >> so when I hear something and be like [ __ ] might be 5 years old I do that whole today that whole new happy birthday on that [ __ ] [laughter] >> you know what I'm saying >> have you ever jumped on a beat that you particularly didn't like but because it was different and you're like you know what let me let me let me try something new >> no you never do that [ __ ] gay Hey, you ain't [ __ ] with [laughter] a [ __ ] >> I like that, man. >> Like if it's I do different [ __ ] because I, you know, I do different [ __ ] But I mean, even if it's different, it can't be just weak. >> Not weak, but you know how like some rappers, they have a certain style, a certain type, and because of their style, they always go with certain kind of beats and certain kind of, you know what I mean? >> Sometimes you might want to show your versatility and shake it up. It might not be whack, but it's just something that you don't normally would go towards. >> Well, I mean, me being a music connoisseur, it don't matter what kind of music it is. I know every kind of music got some [ __ ] >> Okay. [laughter] >> So, it don't if it's opera, it could be some [ __ ] opera. >> It can be great. >> Yeah, it could be. But [laughter] if it's [ __ ] it's not for the kid. >> You know, let me ask you about >> country music songs. I got I got I got Zo. I got a whole bunch of like like my roots run deep to the islands as well where I got a bunch of so [ __ ] I got a bunch of [ __ ] people with but it's going to be the upper echelon [ __ ] All of it though gang like you got, you know, like if we go >> if we go to the islands with it, you know what I'm saying? You got Super Cat. >> Yeah. >> Like if we going to go old school, you had Shaba Patra, you know what I'm saying? You had, you know, >> my uncles and [ __ ] like that. Like you had like Baron and Levy and all that [ __ ] Then you had that [ __ ] that was like, "Boy, if you don't shut the [ __ ] [laughter] up." >> So it's some [ __ ] everywhere. >> It's [ __ ] everywhere. >> That's it. That's it. >> See, I can't name one Jamaican reggae that I feel that way about. >> Do you see that? You see that? That's That's some [ __ ] right there. I can't I can >> I can tell you some [ __ ] I'm right out of here at home. [laughter] I can tell you, but it's [ __ ] to me. [clears throat] Just like I don't You know what I'm saying? >> Talk to me, man. Um this is something I always ask about. I asked Bun. Ask Mr. Lee, this get throws song. You killed that hoe. Your hook is, you know, that [ __ ] is legendary. So when it came down to that song, I know Mr. Lee, he say he got that that sound from Pimps. He had that that beat and then he took it and he redone, you know, he put his his spin on it, but it was a old beat. >> When you heard that beat, what did you think about it? And how did you come up with that hook? >> I ain't think [ __ ] about it. Mike Dean was just like, "Hey, you want to uh" He was just like, "Hey, you want to be on some [ __ ] Pimp on." >> I'm like, "Yeah, that's cool." He played that [ __ ] and I wrote to it and I went to the next [ __ ] >> But like in How long did it take you to write that get thrown? >> I mean, I was thrilled when I wrote it. So, it ain't take me long. And And then Mike Dean house. Yeah. It wasn't nothing sober around that [ __ ] So you I I probably was coming out of whatever the [ __ ] I was coming out of to be able to record that [ __ ] So soon as I heard this [ __ ] like I don't even remember too much about it except for Mike saying, "Hey, check this out." [snorts and clears throat] Like how the hook is good weed. >> Yeah. I mean it was the [ __ ] I had in front of me right now. >> You said good weed, good drink, and I had a big ass bag of money. >> So I mean good drink, good. Everything just lined up perfectly. Man, that [ __ ] >> I was like, "What I could talk about?" He was just like, "Listen what pimp saying." He was just like I was like, "Okay, >> the APA trial nigga." >> I was like, "Well, basically he talking about [ __ ] going off that hill. >> [ __ ] I'mma just come on this [ __ ] and I'mma say some [ __ ] that ain't got nothing to do with [ __ ] you talking about." And everybody verse on that [ __ ] was about the same [ __ ] It was just about I'm a god. Everybody on that [ __ ] was like, "I'm a drink sipping god. And I'm a drinking god. I'm a put, you know, four in a baby god. I'm a god from New York and I'm a god that's hiding the [ __ ] on the hook. [laughter] Then I think I think I went on and put a verse on I can't let nobody I think >> man don't do that. Hey Ro, don't give me one verse, man. You got to do it for me, man. >> I'm you. But do just the hook, man. I got to have that for boss talk. Remember good weed, good give it to me, man. >> Something leather. >> Come on, babe. I handle my business. So I think I deserve to get THE >> TH COME ON, MAN. [laughter] >> You did. >> They took that money. >> They took it out. It was hard. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN. >> KNOW IT [laughter] WAS HARD. You know, they had to lose my [ __ ] in order to put jig on there. >> Come on. They Hey, I don't give a damn. >> They didn't like it. I was like, "Fuck that nigga." [laughter] >> But you know, I understood the the the political ass what it is. >> But I take [ __ ] off songs all the time. M. So I'm definitely not mad at that. [laughter] >> You killed that damn hook, man. Say, and but I knew we Anybody that know about you know what time it is. Ain't no playing with that. You know what I'm saying? Any [ __ ] that hear you, I don't give a damn where he at. And I know what you said earlier about this other [ __ ] fill in the arena ain't a lot of [ __ ] ain't get no damn booth playing with you anyway. You know what I'm saying? >> But I can't understand it because then you know I a lot of things that I learned about music is because of things that people say, right? And I hear some people will tell me, "Oh, zero music, it's depressing, so they don't listen to it." But yet when I see the crowd or I see, you know, a whole bunch of people love your music. And I'm like, >> is it because your music is more like pain type of music? Why? And then if it's pain music, you've been around way longer than people like DZ Deshan Trell and stuff like that who said they started paying music. So if that's the case, why aren't you credited for >> Wait a minute. You see she interviewing our [ __ ] >> She interviewing [laughter] >> I wouldn't give a [ __ ] though. I I mean like like no disrespect, but wasn't none of that [ __ ] important? >> Okay. You just doing >> I don't care. I don't care like >> I don't give a [ __ ] about what a mouth says or I mean I I can tell you right now I'm going to float when I leave here. [laughter] >> I don't need the elevator. I'mma float. I'm I'mma use the window. [laughter] mean there's any truth to it. I don't really give I don't give a [ __ ] what they say. And then I mean like for a [ __ ] that actually knows my disography and the chronology of such >> then you know better than that. >> Mhm. >> I mean like I just say I just I just feel bad if you just said [ __ ] ass [ __ ] we don't like you cuz I still not going to give a [ __ ] [laughter] But at the same time I mean I mean lips are going to do what lips do right? >> It don't mean they telling the truth. It just be 10 and I don't give a [ __ ] how they feel no way cuz the five more should be there and long as I see that [ __ ] I'm just oh it was another good night. [laughter] >> But would you say you are the first person that started paying music? >> I I would say I wouldn't give a [ __ ] >> I knew that would come. I promise you I knew that [ __ ] >> I wouldn't like [ __ ] that has no importance. I don't waste my time with that [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Not even with the the fun parts of that [ __ ] I be like I don't give a [ __ ] >> Okay. I think the thing about I love the way like I said unapologetic [ __ ] >> You understand what I'm saying? Being yourself and just saying, "Hey, you know what I mean? I'm a guy that I do what I love >> and you know how I bring it, right?" >> Is that Am I right? >> I mean, it ain't even that I love it. I'm just good at that [ __ ] >> You don't love >> No, I don't. I don't. Cuz it means I have to encounter people and I don't like people. So my job brings people >> and I want my job to make people go the [ __ ] the other way but it doesn't. It brings people to a [ __ ] So now I gotta >> I could never understand that. [laughter] Honestly I can't I can never understand it because that that's the thing like I mean before we even started doing this right we would go places and I see celebrities and stuff like that and I see people walk up to them and ask for pictures whatever and the attitude a lot of times is like I don't really want to do that. I know everybody is a human being and they have bad days and whatever, but at the same time, you know what you signed up for being this? You're going to have fans who going to want to see you and want to take pictures with you. Like, >> why be in this business if if >> Cuz I didn't sign up to take a picture with you. I signed up to give you some music. >> And I'm not a face, but it comes with it. >> I don't give a [ __ ] what come with it. [laughter] >> I don't give a [ __ ] what come with it. I don't care if I if I'm not in the mood for it. You don't understand that. Mother and father, [ __ ] you. >> Wow. That's zero. >> I don't give a [ __ ] if you don't like it. So what? >> All these cameras I don't give a [ __ ] >> That's hard. >> So So if you going to say something like I understand you a person, then that butt shouldn't come after that. >> That's why like I understand uh what's this [ __ ] name? Uh the black Iron Man. What's this [ __ ] name? >> What's his name? Black the black >> like his real name. That [ __ ] uh you know I'm talking about the black [ __ ] on uh on Iron Man. That [ __ ] there was a Mac Daddy a sandwich [ __ ] that like he don't take pictures at all. >> Uhuh. >> He don't take pictures at all. And they say all kind of that [ __ ] don't give a [ __ ] >> Oh, he don't. >> No, he don't. No. He's going to tell you I don't give a [ __ ] who you are not taking your picture. >> Wow. >> Michael Jordan is kind of the same way too. He don't be >> bullshitting. But I'm But I'm going to tell you something about Jordan. Like like a lot of [ __ ] don't know. >> Jordan is on some [ __ ] about Tops the the the whatever that [ __ ] the player card people. Yeah, >> he can't do that [ __ ] >> He can't even do it. >> He can't do that. And he ain't going to come around here and just tell, well, you know, I'm going contractually rich enough. I ain't got to tell you why the [ __ ] I'm telling you. No, [ __ ] >> Exactly. >> Okay. So, he can't do that. >> You got some people that are contractually bound that you can't say this or you can't even like it's you'll get sued like a [ __ ] >> And I mean, [ __ ] like >> if a [ __ ] can't respect that, I'm telling them, >> hey, I ain't on it right now. >> Mhm. If you mad, [ __ ] [ __ ] you. I don't give a [ __ ] I'm a person. So if you don't understand, I'm a person. I don't need you as a [ __ ] fan. No way. Now, if I'm clean in a [ __ ] cool. You catch me in it's 3:00 in the morning, I might come out of my [ __ ] I'm in the rich neighbor. I might go in my I might go in my pajamas and go in shell and go get me some papers or something like that, [ __ ] And the wife beat her. No, I don't take no picture with you right now, [ __ ] And [ __ ] I look like I'm f to go to jail. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> You know what I'm saying? >> And then they going to be talking about you if they ever post that. I don't give a Yeah. You know what I'm saying? [laughter] But what the post gonna say? Damn, Ro fell off. >> Yeah, exactly. It was bad anyway. >> He got on tank. His nipples hard. >> His [laughter] nipples hard. [ __ ] had on some pajamas and [ __ ] He had on some He had some sandals. [ __ ] I just came from the house. Come up here and you know it might be, you know, something over here. I need to get me a box. >> I need to protect myself or something. I'm like, "Hey, you know what? I ain't rolling you." Nah, [ __ ] [laughter] Nah, [ __ ] I might have drove by that [ __ ] so quick. I might still be rocked up a little bit, [ __ ] Like, I [laughter] don't want to take the picture right now, [ __ ] Like, cheese, [ __ ] Like, come on, bro. So, I mean, >> I understand, but I don't give a [ __ ] >> I don't give a [ __ ] cuz I mean, [ __ ] [ __ ] Like, you don't know. Like, [ __ ] look just died. >> I don't [ __ ] your picture. >> My daddy died right before that. [ __ ] your picture. >> You know what I'm saying? Big Arthur just died last week. Still [ __ ] your [ __ ] picture. I'm not in the mood for that [ __ ] >> You don't understand. I'm not in the mood for that [ __ ] >> Go get another [ __ ] to be your favorite artist. I'm >> They ain't going now. Well, they know him and they they understand it. >> Like you got Bash and his [ __ ] is like, "Don't be a dick. Take the pick." But I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and be Baby Bash. I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and be me. And if I feel like I ain't just looked at the camera, I don't know if I got eye boogers. >> [ __ ] your picture. [laughter] >> That's real. >> If that [ __ ] itching right here, it could be a real booger. >> [ __ ] your picture. >> But you know the funny thing cuz I remember I was on um Venice Beach that time and I saw I remember that. >> And I'm the type of person like I see you with somebody I'm like, you know, I don't want to bother them, you know, because I don't want to hear that. No. But let me tell you, it haunted me up to today. I'm like, I wish I had asked because you don't ever know if the person going to say yes or no. If they said no, then I'll be like, okay, cool. You know, have a good day, whatever. But I'm like, man, what's if he did say yes? I could have had that picture cuz you don't know if you're going to ever run into that person ever again. >> I understand it. I understand that, too. Me as a fan of of of people, >> I ain't never I don't >> Do you ever ask anybody for a picture? >> No. No. I mean, I can I can tell you on my hand who I asked for pictures. I asked in Denver at some [ __ ] army base or some [ __ ] I seen Crit. I asked for a picture with Crit only because I knew he was going to see me yell because [laughter] we was there doing the same [ __ ] right? >> You know what I'm saying? Then some [ __ ] I did with Master P, I asked P for a picture. We took a picture somewhere. You know, it was one of them no limit thing part of. Uh, but no, because I know I understand they people to people. The average person. So if I'm if I'm just Joseph and I'm a fan of Zero, I listen to I found me. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] this [ __ ] is marrying the situation I'm going through." I listen I hate you [ __ ] It's also marrying the situation I'm going through. Uh, I miss my mama. Marrying the situation like it's So when you see me, it's more like I'm not a rapper to you. I'm I'm kind of like every Sunday when you walk in church, I'm that [ __ ] to you right now. So you feel like you know me and I understand that. So when you see me, you might be overwhelmed and be like, "Ah [ __ ] bro." >> And the danger in that [ __ ] is that [ __ ] I be talking about on them songs that I used to talk about on them songs. Life still be lifeing. So you'll catch a person right in the middle of their life. And I'm not that good when I'm gonna put my life on hold to be like, "Ah man, let me wipe my tears. Let me [ __ ] [ __ ] you." You see me crying, [ __ ] >> I'm upset, down, set, and set to the side, [ __ ] [ __ ] you, [ __ ] >> Like, [ __ ] you. [clears throat] Like, with no smile on and then now what, [ __ ] >> You see me distraught right now, [ __ ] What you [ __ ] with me for? You see me in the business mean, hey, bro, man, shut your [ __ ] ass up, [ __ ] >> That's the way. >> People be thinking I'm tripping, but nah, I'm just a person. I'm just a person. And my morals are high. My standards are high for myself towards other people. So I expect them to be high coming back towards me. That's it. And I'm not never gonna just No, [ __ ] No. I'm like, nah, not right now. >> Okay. That's what I was wondering. You're not going to be rude to them. You're just going to be like, >> if you're rude to me, I'm [ __ ] [ __ ] you. And now what's next? >> Yeah. >> But I mean, >> but if they're not rude to you, then Yeah. >> Yeah. But I mean, I'm still going to tell you like, nah, man. You see we over here at the hospital. Like, [ __ ] everybody cry. Like a [ __ ] just did this. They did that to you. >> [ __ ] just did this. Calvin, look. Calvin is right here. They fa to unplug my [ __ ] >> Hey man, roll for >> No. >> [ __ ] ass [ __ ] You want to come lay here too, [ __ ] ass [ __ ] >> Wow. >> Leave me the [ __ ] alone right now. [ __ ] my best friend right here, [ __ ] Not moving. >> I definitely feel you. >> So I'm like like nah, I don't want Nah. But then there sometimes where I'm like, yeah, I will. Like I'm ready for a picture right now already. >> But I don't walk [laughter] around like Ro. I don't walk around like Ro. So you might catch me just being Joseph and And yeah, I want to wear my Jerusalem tools. >> Oh, really? >> I want to wear my I want to wear my sandals. I don't want to wear no [ __ ] like they was talking that [ __ ] at the most. You got to understand, [ __ ] They not going to record my feet, [ __ ] [laughter] That's what y'all don't know. They not going to record my feet. Y'all record my feet. I was comfortable [ __ ] in my video shooting. Toes, no bunnies. >> Let me ask you this, man. Cuz you go so far back, man. Street military. You remember uh that street military strictly for what it say for my [ __ ] on lock >> like you remember that. Do you remember doing that? >> You were young. You That was many years ago. >> Yeah. But this was around people who uh I respected >> and people who uh brought me into the rap game. You know what I'm saying? This, you know, you got screw and then you got like point blank Kyino Street Military. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? These were the people that that uh these were the people that reached where I reached to them and they kind of got me ready for what I am right now. >> So I remember that [ __ ] I remember when we recorded that [ __ ] today. >> You killed that hoe too. Texas tough from from Texas tough from for Genesis to boy. You were going down through there, [ __ ] From [laughter] >> this was kind of like the homage I was paying because like the family >> Genesis to Exodus Texas tough. I was like plexing. I'm hearing all of these words. I'm like that [ __ ] own it, man. And you you could tell you was so Texas on that thing, man. >> Well, what I was trying to be really was so street military >> real talk >> because because you got because you got the album still gangsters. It was street military. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But Pharaoh gone. >> Mhm. >> We got kind of similar tone. So you got KB doing what he doing. You got Fleet doing what he doing. ain't missing Pharaoh, letting me get on this [ __ ] and rap like my [ __ ] would have wrapped if he would have been here not doing 50 [ __ ] years. >> So that's why I came on that [ __ ] like like how Pharaoh would. Yeah, that's why I was flipping like that. >> Is that But you mentioned it Mike. You mentioned somebody that was on lock with double life senses in that verse. >> Yeah, this was Trey Brother. >> Yeah, damn sure did. I I just remember the verse and you were man, like I said, you was spitting that fire, man. And it and and and the thing you got to think about when you when you hearing that like even now it still sound good. It's still it's just like boom boom boom. I was listening to it when we first left Dallas. I'm like man and that [ __ ] sound like he just recorded it and MJG he was producing some stuff on there. So you know that's that's dope. Like I remember moments like that cuz I mean >> it was with street military. I'm like I made a street military album. M >> like how a [ __ ] be like I made road record. No [ __ ] I made a street. [ __ ] got to realize I met street military first. >> Wow. >> Like when I decided I was going to rap, I met Icy Hot first in my neighborhood in Ridgemont back in PU. Then I found out Lil Fleet live in my neighborhood on the other side of the neighborhood. So I'm like [ __ ] let's go over there and hoop. I'm just trying to go with that because I mean you I was good with that ball. I was dunking on [ __ ] and [ __ ] couldn't understand how I was so good on the court. So I used that basketball to get me in the door with people I wanted to cuz I like oh yeah [ __ ] I come through this [ __ ] put my nuts on your head [ __ ] it ain't [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm dunking and you know yeah [ __ ] Ridge Money that's how that [ __ ] started. I mean even with Grace I met Grace and them dunking dunking on [ __ ] and [ __ ] man. And from that [ __ ] it was a man who is this [ __ ] Then I'm at school house and then now we doing what we doing. >> Yeah. >> So kind of like the same [ __ ] with Flea. I got it to where I got up in Flea House. I used to come over that [ __ ] with some really really badly rolled weed I was trying to sell. But I was just trying to get in there with them cuz I knew these [ __ ] smoking and I wanted these [ __ ] to hear my [ __ ] >> That's hard, man. >> And that was early in the game. >> Very early. >> And like like that was that was that was 90s. >> Yeah, >> that was 90s. And I ain't make a street military album to up in the thousands. >> Wow. >> So I was around that [ __ ] And the whole time they I was getting passed around like a little dot. You know what I'm saying? Uh I come in there and flee like, "Yeah, you jamming but you ain't ready for me. >> You ain't ready for street military." So he introduced me to this [ __ ] Bam. Rough [ __ ] Bible and all that [ __ ] So that [ __ ] was like, "Yeah, you jamming but you ain't ready for me." So that's when they introduced me to this other [ __ ] So, I'm just going and I get to a certain point to where I'm like, "Yeah, uh, man, Roong, man, you want to be on?" Yeah. Yeah. I want to be on this [ __ ] >> Wow. >> So, I was like, "This is my first opportunity." And I'm trying to go hard enough to where I'm finished. Everybody going to look at me and be like, >> "God damn, [laughter] young man, you've arrived." >> How did you feel about it? How'd you feel after you done? It said done. Look at everybody else. And them [ __ ] was like, [ __ ] ain't really say nothing. They was like, damn. Like, play that [ __ ] again. And I'm listening to how Craig KB going on. You the end of the mind. [laughter] I'm like, nah, >> spinning that fire. >> I'm like, nah, he in that [ __ ] moving this. I don't move my shoulders moving. I keep try to keep my body still as possible. [laughter] You know what I'm saying? I don't want, you know, wiggle and gyate none of that. But KB was gone. I just came in that [ __ ] I just Yeah, I had to go. I had to go. >> That mean going in. >> Hopefully I please people. >> Oh, no. That hoe stood out. When I listen to that, I that ho stood out, [ __ ] That's why I brought it up like that boy. That old boy, you were young then. >> Yeah. >> But looking back at it, because I know a lot of people when they first started and your rap now, you have elevated such a point where when you look back at that record, do you still love it the same way? Do you still feel like you did what you did? Cuz people like, "Oh, no. I I I wasn't I could have done better. >> Uh I hate I hated the mix. >> Okay. >> Like I always like what I do, but I don't like how I sounded on there. >> Okay. >> I was a instrument of perfection. [laughter] But whoever mixed it, it just it just I was like, "It's cool." But yeah. Uh but I mean it was a lot of [ __ ] back then. Like especially compared to how our [ __ ] sounds now. >> No, it's different. >> You know what I'm saying? like it's every like you can afford if you know >> let it go. So I'm listening to it and it sounds good. It's just >> like on like on my like on my first record, you know what I'm saying? My first record is mixed is mixed really well. >> That uh first gorilla mall is mixed really well. You know what I'm saying? That zero verse the world is mixed really well. Then we get to King of the Ghetto. It's not too much. >> You know what I'm saying? It's not too much. And then you go, you know, you get to life and you get to listening to certain [ __ ] on certain apps be like you find yourself having a squint to listen to it go sideways and [ __ ] like damn like what the [ __ ] going on here. So you know that's as as as a producer engineer that [ __ ] irked the [ __ ] out of me when I hear that [ __ ] I always love what I did but then you can't even hear what I really did on a lot of [ __ ] And that was because, you know, you might take the cheaper route, this [ __ ] charge $50 per mix. >> Yeah. >> And I've been places where a [ __ ] paying up to $5,000 a mix now. >> And then it sounds like it. You know what I'm saying? You listen to how these hoes going to say, it sound like something. >> Sound like a [ __ ] sat down, was doing this [ __ ] for 17 consecutive days, twisting them knobs and raising them levels up. Listen to that [ __ ] Then you listen to like I think it was let the truth be told. I had a song on that [ __ ] with a shanty on that [ __ ] >> Damn. >> And you can't tell it's her >> because of the mix. >> She's way up under there. I'm like god damn bra >> pissed you off. >> [ __ ] It pissed me on too. [laughter] I'm like damn man. [ __ ] was Yeah. I'm like >> so yeah that those are the regrets that I had. Man, I I I know one thing, man. You you you definitely would know because of the work you done done, the way you done went in and did different music, dealt with different people. That's why I value it so much. Like I that's why I say the stuff I say when I be saying like, man, I put anybody, you put zero in there, I can put you in there cuz I know the work that has been done. I know he know I don't give a damn who he going to studio with. That's how I I can stand on that. You know what I got my own [ __ ] now cuz like when it first started going down when Jay came to come find me at this pool hall he found me at and he was like yeah go to this studio tomorrow. So I went to this studio. I ain't even know what the name of this [ __ ] was on Pine Mon where I went d these [ __ ] with Scarface and Scarface pulled up. I was like, "Damn, this [ __ ] Scarface really in this bitch." Like just 03. I like damn. And uh I thought we was cool. So then I did these [ __ ] and I'm leaving. I'm like, "Yeah." Then [ __ ] was like, "Yeah, yeah, no. Uh I can't give you a dub with this shit." Come again. Say what? [laughter] No, [ __ ] Come up with it, [ __ ] >> I can't have no Dub. Well, you know Jay don't like that. I'm like, "Oh, yeah. Well, no, I don't I'm not coming here no more." >> That's real. >> So, um, then we go to Mike Dean house. Mike Dean sneak me. He like, "Man, just don't get caught with this. >> I'm saying it now." So [laughter] crazy as 20 years later I had I hate you [ __ ] [laughter] >> I had I hate you [ __ ] going to hurt nobody too [laughter] much of that [ __ ] >> But nobody knew. >> Nah. And I used to sleep with that [ __ ] CD in my pocket. >> Oh you had that. Yeah. That [ __ ] was going to happen. >> It get leaking. But then I get to Mike Dean house and then sometimes like this was during the time when Julie was over there with UTP. >> Yeah. >> The UTP for rap a lot too. >> So you got everybody in Mike Dean crib all day. Then I'm coming over there like 10. This man been recording since 10. He tired. So we knock out one song. I'm like, "Yeah, [ __ ] Let's get to the next one." man, we got to pick up tomorrow. I'm like, man, [laughter] this is [ __ ] [ __ ] I got to ride all the way back to Cattails, [ __ ] like this. So now I start going to guitar center, buying my own [ __ ] so I ain't never go through that [ __ ] again. So ever since then, we just going to say Christmas 04 when I came home that what July 5th. [ __ ] I started buying my [ __ ] then. >> I ain't have to go to nobody's studio since that moment. >> How hard was it to learn to do all of that? I mean, [ __ ] I've been looking at, like I say, uh I met Icy Hot first out of Street Military. So, uh he was working off of I want to I want to say a EPS. He was working off the EPS at the time. So, I sit there and I, you know, I mean, and then also my aunt had got me a keyboard of my own, so I understood sequencing and [ __ ] as as I was learning how to >> play, you know. My old man had taught me notes and [ __ ] taught me the scale and all that [ __ ] do me [ __ ] and all that. >> Uh, and I was singing and [ __ ] like in church and [ __ ] like that. Then, you know, singing [ __ ] on the radio, learning notes. But, uh, when I got my own keyboard, I was looking at this [ __ ] with the individual's tracks. I learned how to put the bass, hear the string, hearing. Once I got that basic operation down, it wasn't nothing but getting a new board and learning what all this [ __ ] is on this board. So, watching Icy Hot, watching Clai Cat, and then uh just loping up with producers. Uh I used to [ __ ] around with with this [ __ ] I don't want to say his name. >> Yeah. I used to [ __ ] around with this [ __ ] Uh I'm going just saying um he was it was a Mo City producer who was pretty, you know, moderate. >> Okay. >> And you know, he would show me [ __ ] And uh then I met Rockish that did all of the, you know, the first gorilla mob and my whole look what you did to me. He did have the beast. I did have the beast on it. He would show me a lot of [ __ ] So, I just got to the point to where when I had my money up and I bought my own [ __ ] I already knew how to use all that [ __ ] >> Wow. >> Does it depend on Cuz you know, just like you're talking about, some people charge 5,000, some people charge 500 for different things and stuff. Does it matter the equipment that you that you use to do this? >> Yeah. Yeah. To me, yeah, definitely. I mean, especially your microphone. I mean, I in my [ __ ] I don't really have to worry about mixing too much because I'm not going to mix. >> Oh, so you don't want to do the mixing? >> I mean, I could, but I mean, I got people that do that and they already have a have a awesome uh template >> for how I want myself to sound. >> Okay. >> So, all I have to worry about is getting my idea out and I do all that [ __ ] at my crib. Wow. >> You know what I'm saying? I engineer myself. I do my [ __ ] myself. You know, I don't need nobody to hit my buttons. You know, I do a little mix for myself to ride around and listen to and critique my [clears throat] word play with, but I mean, I'm not fa [ __ ] and put nothing out like this. But the reason I I like what you're saying is because you already know you watch Boston. I'm a big pimp fan. So I know this what you explaining is a technique that that you Yeah. That definitely is something they can talk about them too because they because that that's an intimate conversation with [ __ ] who can really get down for their own crown and know what they want they sound to sound like, right? So I I think that's the dopest [ __ ] ever to be honest with you. But when I when I think about Pimp, bro, you and Pimp, like I said, y'all did some stuff. You and him, he he valued you. You know what I mean? He said, "Zero going to ride blue, but I'm going to ride." [laughter] >> How big was it, man, when you first met Pimp? I got to get these stories, man. Like, just knowing Pimp. >> Yeah. Pimp. >> How did you meet him? >> I met Pimp at the Get Throw video shoot for the >> That was the first time. >> Yeah. I ain't even know what that [ __ ] looked like before that day. >> What the hell? >> Say I don't listen to other people [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> You know, uh, and I wouldn't really at that time I was too busy trying to be an artist myself. I wasn't going to >> What was it back then? So like with the with the DVD magazines like Gang 101. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? You had Game 101 and >> you know, you had quite a few. But I mean, Gang 101, I was [ __ ] with Jack Daniels, Mr. S a whole lot, you know. >> So, but I would never look at his other ones. I only look at the ones that I was on >> already. >> I wasn't looking at nobody's [ __ ] I mean, I jam [ __ ] on the radio. If I'm listening to the radio or or one of them, you know, who was ever at the school shop at that time storing music down, I listen to their mixes. I hear songs like that. You know what I'm saying? So, uh, but like, uh, with Pimp, Pimp wrote me a letter and Red Boy gave it to me and he was kind of like >> from prison. >> Yeah. He was cussing me out in that [ __ ] telling me I need to stop bullshitting. I need to stop. >> Same [ __ ] he said on the on the record. >> Yeah. I need to stop [ __ ] with people. I'm like, [ __ ] how you know I'm [ __ ] with somebody? [laughter] Like, I don't even know you yet, [ __ ] >> Don't know you yet, [ __ ] >> I love it, man. you know, uh, >> he cared. >> Yeah. And then he came out to to the to the video, you know, to the he walked up to the car and that little thing they got online. We walked up to the [clears throat] was when I met him. >> That's hard. >> I didn't even know that was him. I like, man, who the big old Erns [ __ ] is coming over [laughter] here. I was like, let me get my [ __ ] coming too close. And that [ __ ] was like, know what I'm talking about? I say, nah, that's [laughter] [applause] >> damn that's hard, man. That's that [ __ ] right there. You say we're going down. I like Yeah. When it I heard the dine, I knew it was him. >> So you So you hadn't heard his verse. Zero going to ride blue and I'm You already heard that. >> No, I had heard it. >> You had heard it? >> Yeah, I heard it. >> What did you think when you heard that? You like he th is that love at that point? He just showing you love. Like >> I was like I was like, man, you know that's I mean that's dope. I knew he was [ __ ] with me like I say cuz >> cuz of the penitential letter, right? >> Yeah. I got the letter I I mean I got the letter like early early early '05 and then we shot that video in ' 05 a little later on in 05. >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz he went out long until he pass. >> No. No. I ain't got this [ __ ] [laughter] >> That would have been dope. >> That's epic, man. That would have been dope. >> That be that crazy epic. So what did you think when you heard him say your name on that song? When he said zero and and slim through steel bush and then come back and said >> he came he came song for me though. >> Oh he wasn't >> he came and played the song for me at I was at strip club. >> I love it man. That's hard. >> He pulled up and was like man I want to play something for you man. I want to play something for you and just it ain't ain't [ __ ] [ __ ] you know it ain't like that but listen to it and I was like [snorts] I like man we squashed that [ __ ] at Hulk funeral [ __ ] >> that's what I that's what I already knew that >> and that [ __ ] say it's coming out ANYWAY [laughter] squashed this turn it's coming out >> I say [ __ ] it it's coming out >> that's hard man >> I mean it was all good >> it was all good and I you know he's my favorite I always tell [ __ ] ain't no everybody got no But no, nobody got no knocking those down. These [ __ ] can say what? >> He came back and he came back and was like, >> "Yeah, >> they shook hands. They know what time it is." Yeah. But he still said others was still bullshitting, too. So >> he came back and said, "My [laughter] >> So I ain't saying [ __ ] the other me and Slim got it together." >> I like that, man. >> Pile Cooper, whatever, [ __ ] [laughter] man. And and not only that, y'all brought some dope hits out after that as well. >> We still going to drop >> working working. I love it, man. >> King and the Boss still coming. >> Coming with it, huh? >> We lied for 20 years, but we telling [laughter] >> when y'all first did the first jam. Which was the first song you and you and Slim got together and connected? >> Associates. That man, that hoe so hard, bro. Jay Dog on there, ain't he? >> That hoe was so hard, man. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a hard >> Your ass, boy. you you too talented when it come down to the hook and the rhyme scheme. It's crazy, bro. And and and and you guys just linked up and went to the studio and done it or >> Well, I mean, >> well, y'all got your own damn studios. >> We went to Lee House and did >> Y'all did that with Lee? >> That's my dog, man. >> House. Yeah, we uh Yeah, it was about like three, four [ __ ] at Hawk Funeral that I wanted to [ __ ] up real bad. And uh you know, me and Slim, you know, he was saying [ __ ] about me on cha. I'm saying [ __ ] about him on game one cuz we let some weak ass Well, look, I'm trying to get better with this. I let a person >> insinuate some [ __ ] We both did. We didn't even investigate to see if this was true. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And [ __ ] just went at me. I went him and I seen Slim over. I'm like >> at Hulk funeral. >> Yeah. Damn. Walk this way. I seen another [ __ ] I'm I got to stand the [ __ ] right there. [laughter] And then Slint walked up. Nah, [ __ ] We f to big homie wouldn't want us to [ __ ] We f to put [ __ ] in the ground. He was more of a man than I was. I don't got no problem saying that [ __ ] >> And he said we going to squash this man. >> Say man, let's put this in the ground with big homie man. [ __ ] out of that. I [ __ ] I mean as a older [ __ ] >> Yeah. I Yeah. I I big brothered him. >> Yeah. Okay. Cool. >> That that hurt both of y'all losing Big Hog Man. >> Cool. Yeah. >> That that was a a blow. I remember Mr. Lee was telling me he was uh he had just left his studio. >> Yeah. when you know like when H when that happened with Hulk man like where was you at when you first >> you was at studio too yeah I was up there I was at scores >> I was at school like all this was the same time when pimp is coming up here to tell me he got a this song going be slim like like within that 24 hours hawk is murdered damn yeah like it's you know it was like it was like on some it was like on some He was like on some [ __ ] He was like on some [ __ ] cuz I was at this time I'm I'm at schools like every night. >> Yeah. >> Because >> I'm up there on some I'm getting some money doing some other type of [ __ ] that have [ __ ] to do with rap and I'm up here. Uh especially if a [ __ ] going to go into the zero mix. I may, you know, do a little whatever. But but um I'm up here cuz this is where I'm spending my time at. It was I mean scores then DC got it popping with Platinum City and then later V Live and all this other [ __ ] but I mean wherever the happening you know strip spot was that's where I was at. So you know pimp pulled up on me and did that [ __ ] Then I get a call like hey man this [ __ ] Hulk is face down in Pearl in Pearl homes. What the [ __ ] you mean? And by the time I pull up, it's like a club. Like the whole neighborhood is out there. >> Yeah. >> He on the ground like barely breathing type [ __ ] >> Damn. >> So yeah, that [ __ ] And then and then I had like 18 days to turn myself in on this [ __ ] ass case. >> There we go. >> So >> that's how that thing >> that's how that [ __ ] be crumbling, man. >> Yeah. >> You know, and and to be real, man, y'all had y'all some real soldiers down here, man. That's the one thing, man. You know, and I always tell [ __ ] like, man, I I done lost a lot of partners, right? And I never I read the Bible a lot and it's like one to be left standing, the other one will be taken away. I never thought it would be literally happening with me. I thought it, you know, God coming from the sky and two or three going to be taken and you going to get to be That's what I'm thinking. Like the rapture. No, this is happening real time. [ __ ] who you right here by you is disappearing and God letting you stay and it'll be like, "Dang, man." I it and and then it'll be a [ __ ] your age that'll just die. That done messed me up too a lot of time. You remember I went walking and running and everything. I went to working out and I said, "Hell no." [laughter] Like cuz you don't you don't know what's causing it and you don't know how to control it, but you know you headed that way. >> Especially when a person don't have no illnesses, no nothing. >> Nothing mess your head up, bro. >> And they go, [clears throat] >> and but but it's a it's a thing where you guys, man, you did that song with Pimpy coming up, too. That's the one Jay Dog told me. They came out to his marriage in I don't think they still together. [laughter] They they came out to their wedding like like that's the son they came out to like how was it for you doing doing that with pimp and how did that go? >> Well, I mean like I said I went in the studio with them [ __ ] I was in there with Mike Dean. Okay. >> This this was you know throw coming up out this [ __ ] >> So you that was the same time. >> Yeah. These were emails. These are emails. These are these are I pull up. >> It's just me and Mike Dean. >> Okay. Okay. >> Me and Mike Dean and a bunch of animals and [ __ ] and a bunch of drugs. [laughter] That's how that's >> How did you When did you first hear or did you know it was going on the pimp track? >> I ain't know where that [ __ ] was going. >> That [ __ ] just landed over there. >> Yeah. He You want to get on this one, too? Yeah. I do this [ __ ] Yeah. Come on. >> Wow, man. That >> Yeah, it was just work. >> Work. Just work. You And that's that's the thing, man. I tell anybody, man. If you don't quit, you you ain't lost. You know what I'm saying? You got to keep working. You know what I'm saying? You done seen a lot of these young younger guys come. I seen one you and Chose did together here recently. >> How's How's it working with DJ? That's who told me about the look. He said, "Man, I couldn't afford that look, man. That boy, he his shots, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? His shots unaffordable." I said, "What?" I said, [laughter] "How was it doing that?" >> I mean, you know, his uh it was cool, man. You know, uh Chose is very >> not anymore. That was it. >> Yeah. he chose is very uh very melodical and uh as a producer he comes with [ __ ] that I would probably >> look for. >> Wow. >> When I'm doing um heartto-heart type songs. >> Okay. Okay. You >> know what I'm saying? Like if I really want to get into your cerebellum and I would want some Justice League sounding type [ __ ] and this [ __ ] Chose has that, >> you know? Like like Pug also. >> Yeah. >> Like shout out to Pug. >> I had never got the chance to really [ __ ] with Cho and then Chose kind of like letting a [ __ ] know like he >> he weird. He weird as [ __ ] >> Uh I'm weird as [ __ ] So we don't be [ __ ] with each other cuz we weird as [ __ ] Like and then when a [ __ ] found out I was out so weird. They were kind of like a reason to be like, "Oh, well I can [ __ ] with him cuz he going to understand. I'm not going to be [ __ ] with his ass every day." You know what I'm saying? >> Like and that's both of us each other. Like this [ __ ] Ro ain't going to trip when I don't call him for for for three weeks, >> you know, and and you know vice versa. We are in our own. I mean, he do the same [ __ ] when he come across his page all day uh promoting his [ __ ] He ain't doing [ __ ] but promoting this [ __ ] like he's supposed to like I be doing. >> That's hard. That's hard, man. How is it been a thing where you get how this internet [ __ ] for you? Some people >> I don't [ __ ] with you. >> You don't even run your own internet. You >> I do, but I mean I'm running from it. I don't [ __ ] with >> You just do what you do and I'm done with that [ __ ] >> I'm gone. I ain't got time for that. >> I like that. I like that cuz that way it don't affect you anyway. Mentally you ain't got to even think about this [ __ ] >> I remember the first time when I was well it was a long time ago. I was in uh this one I was in Vegas and um [ __ ] when I was up there in Vegas I I was talking to my partner right a [ __ ] that I had been seeing at the show the magic. We go to Magic. I'm in Magic and I tell the [ __ ] I said man I'm going to go out now. You going to go to the club? You know the [ __ ] told me I don't go out man I go out on Instagram. This the first time I heard this. I said really? That's the first time it it registered to me that a [ __ ] would go out on Instagram. >> Like I ain't got to go out. I can just look at this [ __ ] from the house. >> Mhm. >> Threw me off, bro. >> It's safer. [laughter] >> Threw me off. I'm serious. That dude told me that it's cheap ain't it? >> Yeah. >> He can see what's going on at the clubs. >> Yeah. But see, for a [ __ ] like me, I don't give a [ __ ] what's going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Outside next door, up under a [ __ ] like I don't give a damn >> already. But it's so much fake stuff on social media. It's like when at least when you step out, you can decipher real from fake. >> No, you can't. >> You can't. >> You can't either. >> Why you say that? >> [ __ ] Come on, man. >> They always say the >> this world. >> Mhm. >> This is the world. >> But you can't look at somebody in their eye and tell. They always say the window through their soul is through their eyes. >> Nah. >> You can't tell. >> We wouldn't have so many fraud charges if that was true. You can't you can't tell who real. You can't tell who fake. You got fake [ __ ] saying real [ __ ] You got real [ __ ] looking like they fake. You got You don't know what the [ __ ] is going on. All you know is it's going on. That's it. All you know is it's going on. So if I ain't got to meet you, I don't have to decipher whether you a [ __ ] [ __ ] or a real [ __ ] >> I can just be like saw him, kept going. And it's it's good like that. That way I don't have to Libra scale you cuz as a Capricorn you [ __ ] on my scale you can't win. So I keep [ __ ] off scale. >> So tell I I'm so curious about this part because you're such a loner. You don't really like people. You like to stay to yourself. Tell me about how Ro is in relationships. >> He ain't. [laughter] >> You have kids. >> That ain't that relationship. So you were never in a relationship with any of the moms or mom. How many kids you have? >> Several. >> Okay. So with any of the different women, right? >> Yes, of course. >> Okay. It could be one. But so you were never in any relationship with any of the women. >> Have you ever been in a relationship? >> Once or twice. >> So how were you in those? And >> uh I was smart cuz I got out of >> Do you [laughter] ever want to be back in >> I do not. >> No. have any purpose. >> You don't feel like there's that person out there for you who can deal with >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it's me. It's me. >> I deal with me. >> So, you don't want that companionship, that person that's going to be there by your side no matter what >> to take half my [ __ ] no matter. [laughter] >> You can sign paperwork to protect you from that. >> I shouldn't have to. >> Or maybe she come with her own stuff and don't want none of your >> She's never going to. She's not coming with her own [ __ ] You talking about American women? >> Yeah. >> No, no, I'm good. >> Okay. So why don't you find yourself somebody outside of America then? >> Cuz now too much. >> What? To bring her here? >> Yeah. I ain't doing none of that [ __ ] [laughter] >> So you're good with yourself no matter what. You just like >> I'm good. I'm good. I've learned better and I will never ever. The album is called Never Love a [ __ ] Again and it is more than an album title. It is a way of life. I am done. So when you at home and you don't feel well or you don't want somebody to be like >> I make me better, [laughter] >> somebody take care of you. >> I Yeah, me. I make me better. >> You fall out at home and >> I'mma wake up and take care OF MYSELF. [laughter] >> BE QUIET. >> I'M GOING WAKE UP and take care of myself. Ain't nobody coming over in that [ __ ] thermometer, >> right? Making you some chicken noodle soup and >> weak ass [ __ ] [laughter] >> Nuhuh. No, it ain't no. >> So you just go out there for one night stand and that's it. No attachments, no nothing. >> You don't want no stand [ __ ] >> You're not abstinent. Are you? >> No. >> Okay then. >> But that mean I want no personal [ __ ] I'm good with that. >> So it's just so each woman that you mess with know that it's just not a woman. >> It ain't even It ain't It's >> Can women fall in love really easy? >> I don't give a [ __ ] They can fall out my [laughter] I ain't going for that [ __ ] I don't believe women I don't believe women can love. >> You really? >> No, I don't. I don't believe y'all are capable of love at all. >> Why? Because look at the [ __ ] y'all do to y'all king. >> Not all women. >> I'm going Y'all say y'all [ __ ] is dogs. All y'all is whatever y'all is. >> So you don't see successful relationships? >> No, I don't ever in nowhere. >> Ever? >> I have not. No. >> No. >> So people who have been married for 50, 70 years and haven't left each other's side till death do you >> no more? >> They not [ __ ] no more. >> Who told you that? >> Cuz I [clears throat] be in their houses. >> Not all of them. [ __ ] She up here and this [ __ ] down here with me. All of them. I'm not doing that [ __ ] >> Wow. >> We going to do that [ __ ] You paying half on the [ __ ] rent. You a roommate. You ain't no [ __ ] wife. >> I know I know couples that are 70s something years old still. >> Veron just lost his wife and they have been together for 72 years. >> They still doing it. >> I don't know nothing. >> He ain't met him. Let me I want to get on this music and pull him out of that. Most city done. The most city done. Listen man, that song man pull a lot. You know that the way you put that song together. >> How did you do that? You did that for most city? >> No, >> you did that for zero. >> Yeah. >> Already, man. So, so what made you do it? Just >> It was just a freestyle >> and you just went in on it. >> It just freestyle. I mean, that's it. It's just a freestyle. >> Freestyle. Just Just like that. >> [ __ ] play the beat. I freestyle that [ __ ] >> That [ __ ] jam. And it's called the Mo City Dun Freestyle because I'm the Mo City D. >> That [ __ ] jam. >> It ain't mean it was for Mo City. It ain't mean it was for Houston. It just meant it was that that was the name of it. Mo City D freestyle. That was it, >> bro. When I first came, no cap. I first came, I went to Pug's uh studio. >> Douggee D hit this rap for me, my [ __ ] I felt so Houston. You know what I'm saying? He hit that hoe, too. You know what I'm saying? Like y'all [ __ ] got a way. You know what I'm saying? Because of the way that y'all connect. like you went you you dealt with DJ Screw, you know what I'm saying? Freestyling, slow music, how do this it sits apart. Pop trunk, all this different stuff, man, that y'all held true to y'all own, man. And I want to tell you, boy, that [ __ ] is alive. You hear me? When I went over there and did that, I said, "Man, I'm in Houston now, man." I said, he told me about, you know, y'all from the same neighborhood and Pug did, too. I was so That was the first time I ever came to Houston, wasn't it, to do the boss talk, wasn't it? >> Yes, you did. >> Yeah. And I I linked up with them. That was years ago. now four four years five years. remember how you even >> I don't it probably Ronnie Spencer >> that's probably >> Ronnie and Reetta man that's what it was that's what ran me over there but man like so for you like when it come down to it man you did that song also uh I'm so Houston man that whole jail so hard when I come to the city that's what I turn on man you like and you named some people in that song bro and it was was it when you when you put the song together you like I know these guys will be proud of me did you when you wrote it you >> I mean, you know, [ __ ] just be coming to me. Yeah. And I was, you know, uh it was just one of them times. Uh I did this [ __ ] like right before Harvey hit. >> Okay. >> So, uh we was actually in the in the midst of um trying to put together an SU album. At the time it was me, this [ __ ] Mike D, big uh big poking little Kiki talking about spearheading, >> talking about holding the torch and getting the SU to do something. So, uh, when I bought the beat, I was just listening to it and that [ __ ] just came, you know, it was a couple people in the studio. So, I came up with the hook and, uh, yeah, I think I sent that [ __ ] the key and, um, Big Baby Flavor, you know, we just put that [ __ ] together. It was somebody else on that [ __ ] too. I ain't going to say who she [laughter] took her [ __ ] ass off that mother. So, uh, but yeah. Now, um I don't even know how I came up with this [ __ ] I mean, that [ __ ] was hard. >> I just be in my head. Like I say, it's just uh I can't even explain it. It's just me doing what I do. That [ __ ] came on, you know? I'm I was fresh off of Serb. I hadn't been on Serb for a year. >> Wow. >> Uh it definitely it was it was 2017. smoking a whole, you know, smoking a lot of, you know, smoking a whole lot of good good weed. I'm new to scotch at this point. No more coding, I'm drinking scotch, drinking like expensive liquors and [ __ ] And uh that beat came on and I just heard that I'm so used and out of nowhere. So I just laid that [ __ ] over and over. So I just laid that and I just came back and little blunt and just like Pimpy would be proud of me, Big Mo would be proud of me, Big Hog would be proud of me. And I think >> Wicked Cricket >> I uh I don't I forget who was in there with me, but somebody like like I mean it was like how you just said like Yeah, man. You know these people would be proud of you. >> Yeah. And somebody said that in there and I was like, you know what? I know pimp would be proud of me. So then I was just like, pimp would be. And that's how that [ __ ] just, you know, >> man, you were jamming that whole part. >> I get my I get my [ __ ] out of what's going on around me. Yeah. So that's how Yeah. >> But that's funny because you say you like to do your stuff at home by yourself. So if there is nobody around you, you don't how you get your inspiration. >> I have kids >> and they're at home with you. So they're the ones in there. My oldest daughter is 36 years old. >> HOLD ON. HOW OLD ARE YOU? >> I'm I'm I'm old enough to [ __ ] the mom and the daughter. [laughter] >> That [ __ ] you look good, man. >> Yeah. So >> 36. Wow. >> So I can be like like what this sound like. She'll come and just cuz No, I can't tell her she can't smoke. Like you grown. Like >> I like that. I don't like that. Do it like this here. And then I [clears throat] Yeah. I don't have like that entourage. But I mean, >> but you have family around you. I got, you know, hell no. [ __ ] >> When I talk, when I say family, I mean your kids. >> Well, a couple of them. >> Couple of but then, you know, like it might be somebody else with a one deep chain. You know what I'm saying? Like I do my [ __ ] and it's certain people I would call. Hey, check this out. What you think? >> Okay, >> heavy. Hey, what's up, man? Wake up. >> Shout out Heavy, man. >> Tell me what's up with this song. >> Got it. >> Rother, you too friendly on that. Go back and, you know, pause. you know, hold your chest out when you do it. Okay. >> All right. Cool. >> That's hard. >> I call another [ __ ] like when I used to be, you know, when me and Mike D used to be cool, what you think about this? Other [ __ ] I used to be cool with, you know what I'm saying? What you think about this? I get [ __ ] opinion and [ __ ] >> But like far as me at the crib, yeah, I might have, you know, uh, you know, like Rico, you know, RP, you know, some [ __ ] like that. DJ Hefner, >> you know what I'm saying? Everybody is doing their own thing. So it's like ain't nobody actually there. I have to FaceTime and share my screen and let a [ __ ] hear that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? So I I do it like that most of the time. But if lay there, we get in the car, roll around my other daughter, Paris, you know what I'm saying? like I let her hear some [ __ ] and if she ain't hating cuz she >> cuz she young and into this you know skinny jeans [ __ ] then you know yeah pop that's yeah dad or whatever the [ __ ] she be calling me you know what I'm saying uh so it it be some [ __ ] like that but it definitely ain't no >> bunch of [ __ ] playing uh 2K at my [ __ ] house that I [laughter] can ask if it's jamming like >> right out all the kids you have you have more girls than boys don't you >> uh seven girls >> huh >> seven girls. >> And how many boys? No boy. I just knew it. >> And I got I got I got I mean I don't like publicizing the boys >> cuz that [clears throat] needs to that needs to remain my my secret weapon. >> So when something needs to happen, >> okay, >> yeah, y'all ain't going to see. >> But you do have more girls than boys. The reason why I said that because that's the way how you are about females is always either the men who always out here being hoes whatever always end up having girls instead of boys for kids or the woman the men who feel like how you do they always it's just God that's working that way where that okay let me give you all these girls then >> no cuz when I had these girls I went like that. >> Oh really? >> Yeah. That came after dealing with after dealing with certain females and [ __ ] like that. So, no, that's definitely incorrect. >> Well, let let me ask you this, man. You you basically >> I wish it was true. [laughter] >> You you you you did a you and Jay Prince when I did the video here lately, you what did you feel it was important to go out and just put a put a a video with that song? >> No, I didn't give I don't give a [ __ ] about that song. That was Jay. >> Oh, they just wanted to do it. >> Yeah. I you know, I [ __ ] at the show. Like, it's cool. Like, I don't >> I know what it is. Okay. >> You know what I'm saying? I know what it I know what it's done and what it's going to continue to do for years and and decades to come. But I mean, uh, no, I wasn't I wasn't thinking about most city done at all >> really. >> But I know it re it it it re it pushed it out to certain people who might not have known it like in other cities. >> That that's that's what it done in this in this environment. Remember when AK and Dom did that do you? They came and seen me and they called me the day when they started going viral talk all the time. It's like I was like man [ __ ] you just got to keep going and that's all you can do when something you know what I mean when something do like I was at the at the uh in Lucas when I did that I was like man he called me we was excited about that cuz when I was in Chicago and you know interviewing them I always be excited to see the people that I be like like we connected and I was like I'm we we going up you know what I'm saying? We going up [ __ ] anytime something come out [ __ ] it's up. So, I love it, man. And and to see y'all do that, I knew it brought essence, you know what I mean? I knew it brought crazy essence. Um, you you you one of them ones, bro. Like I said, the people love you, you know? And that's so important, man. For us, not for you, [ __ ] I ain't trying to do nothing for you. You know what I'm saying? [laughter] I learned to I learned my lesson. I'm doing it for me cuz I love the music, big dog. So, that's the whole game for me. And I y'all ain't for You're not going to outwork me since I didn't got in this journalism to make sure I let [ __ ] know this what we doing down here. And that's my whole game. And that whole way I'm handling it. Stop the rain. You and Shaq. How does Shaq call you and y'all or you call him? That's how that happened. >> I saw that [ __ ] rapping most city done on on TV. He was supposed to be talking to Ernie and Ken [laughter] and they was like Shaq. And that [ __ ] was like come around your corner so slow. Mhm. I say, "Man, this [ __ ] rapping my shit." I DM that [ __ ] "Hey, man, I want to redo Stop the Rain. Uh, can I do that shit?" That [ __ ] say, "Shit, [ __ ] I stole most City Done 3 years ago. I'm going to send it to you." [laughter] >> And you didn't even know. >> I didn't even know. He He called this [ __ ] three city done for San Antonio. >> Wow. >> So then I was like, "Man, can I do stuff for the rain?" He was like, "Hell no, not unless I got a verse on there." >> Oh, that's right. And that [ __ ] started to he just hit me too last week and he was like, "Hey man, I want you to know my daughter birthday coming up." I was like, "Damn, I got a show on Elder Elder Radio that day." I told, "Yeah." >> Oh yeah. >> I ain't even look at my schedule. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You had to call him back and be like, >> "No, he called me." [ __ ] you got a show on this day. I'm bad. [laughter] My bad. My bad. I was just excited. >> He checked your schedule for you. >> He [laughter] did, >> man. Did you you and he been met him and I just seen met him with Twisted Black. We was all over there. You and him going to do something together. You and Twisted Black. >> Uh, I brought Twisted down maybe in the middle of maybe it was the middle of last year or >> Okay. >> But I brought I brought Twisted down to the city and uh, >> show love >> got a verse for somebody on my label. >> Okay. >> From uh, Twisted Andy did a verse with me. So, you know, I did that hook for him. He did one with me and he and I, you know, I spun with him. You know what I'm saying? Uh, no. Uh, he was in a place, you know what I'm saying? Something like that. >> You showing him love cuz he been gone for 17 years. I get it. >> And I was like, you know, you know, like, let me [ __ ] with the OG. And, uh, yeah. >> How did you like it? >> Man, that's I mean, I'm I'm definitely going to play it before I leave. I got >> No, but for us, I want to hear that. I love that, man. So, hey, and that's all I be wanting. I talked to BG. Um, I told me and BG got >> I told Yeah. I told BG I said, "Man, you and you and Twisted got to do one together." You know, I love Man, them my the these my people. I love the streets. So, y'all the streets. >> When BG left, I can see at this point probably 16 years ago. >> Yeah. >> I was three buildings down from here right there in one bedroom. >> That [ __ ] came to my I gave him the a [ __ ] say, "Hey, man. I'm uh I'm in a little old place. I'm doing a It was some [ __ ] like a painting some like painting with a twist or some [ __ ] like that but the [ __ ] version of it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. It was like painting with weed or some [ __ ] I don't know. >> I've seen those. >> And uh so I went over there. I was like, "Yeah, [ __ ] 8 minutes away from my eyes." So dropped the address and [ __ ] pulled up. I thought that [ __ ] was going to cry. That [ __ ] BG say, "Man, which one of these yours?" I say, "No, this this mine." That [ __ ] say, that [ __ ] took his glasses off. [ __ ] just stood there. That [ __ ] was like, "Nigga, man. Can I just tell you how proud I am?" >> Wow. He got a good heart, man. >> I thought that [ __ ] was gonna [laughter] life with the hood. No, [ __ ] Man, I was nah, [laughter] my [ __ ] You know what I mean? >> I got to keep it G. >> But that [ __ ] Nah, he was like, >> you can see the genuiness in what he said. And I mean, I really like that [ __ ] really [ __ ] with me. I really [ __ ] with him. And that [ __ ] remember when he left >> like my [ __ ] was like probably as big as this. >> Wow. >> My [ __ ] was big as this. >> Now that [ __ ] come, he like, "Nigga, this the whole block." He proud. Yeah. And that [ __ ] like he was just like, "Man, come on some beats." [ __ ] We ran through that [ __ ] so quick, you know? And then I kind of respected that more too cuz you dipped off from the Cash Money tour to come [ __ ] with a [ __ ] who >> Yeah. >> who you used to [ __ ] with. >> Come on. >> Over a decade ago, >> man. That's solid. >> First thing I did, I was like, "Nigga, I still got them songs we recorded, [ __ ] I played one. He was like, a [ __ ] >> you happy?" >> Yeah. So, yeah, that [ __ ] put a smile on my face. Just seeing a smile on >> his face. Yeah. You have a lot of songs that you recorded back in the day that you have never put out, don't you? >> Yeah. >> What What's stopping you from putting this? >> Cuz they weren't good enough. >> Yeah. They weren't good enough. >> They're just for you. >> Well, they ain't for nobody at this point. I ain't going You know what I'm saying? >> You ain't going to do nothing with them. >> Nah. Nah. Cuz if if I if I picked out of 50 songs to get the best 15 out of the album, then the [ __ ] that I didn't pick, they just live in the hard drive. >> Really? I might go back and, you know, okay, I might can use this on. I I'll use a bar from this or that. Like, but no, that [ __ ] is dead. >> Wow. >> I'll never go back to this. >> Ain't nothing that's good that you just hold on to like it's it's just not the right time cuz I hear people say it's not the right time. >> That I definitely do that. >> So, you have some that's good that you just like, uh-uh, it ain't the right time. >> Sometimes sometime that [ __ ] just ain't going to come out. But like, yeah, like I said, I got I have different genres of [ __ ] you know what I'm saying? Uh, I let Bun hear some [ __ ] and he like, "Nigga, what's the hold up?" I'm like, >> "Yeah." >> I'm like, "Well, shit." I tell a [ __ ] what the hold up is. And he, "Oh [ __ ] I understand." [laughter] >> Okay. >> Like, I don't do [ __ ] for free. I don't do [ __ ] because it's trending. I'mma do [ __ ] cuz that [ __ ] going to pay. >> Okay. >> That's hard. >> I'm going do it. Okay. >> Okay. So, you're very methodical about what you do. >> I mean, got to be at this point. >> Yeah. At this point, I mean, you can't like >> you can't waste nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like we all probably have situations where we be like, you know, damn, I wish I would have I wish I would have dropped this album on this label instead of label it that came out on. >> You know what I'm saying? I wish I would have not >> Well, I mean, nobody cared at the time. You don't know what's going to happen with your [ __ ] when you doing it, right? >> You know what I'm saying? So, if you do some [ __ ] over here and you like, "Damn, man. Jaden them could have really brought this [ __ ] to life. XYZ really really wasted my [ __ ] you know, my creativity on that type [ __ ] >> So yeah, it's, you know, you have all those type of situations. Then you have a lot of situ where you did songs with people that you uh probably want to shoot the [ __ ] out of now. So you can't put them hoes out cuz you going to get them famous and then you going to shoot the [ __ ] out of them. >> So [laughter] like you got to leave them hoes where they at. You won't even want to take them off and put nobody else. You just man throw the whole [ __ ] song away, >> man. No, I get >> cuz the mind cuz the mind is infinite and if you can't come up with another song then you're dead. >> But you don't sometimes you don't want to feel like you wasted your time especially when you know that your verses are hard and like man I can have said somebody else and this would be a great you know a great song >> just do another great verse. >> That's right man. You like I said I'm I'm about to get you out of here. Let me tell you something. You I love seeing you and Bubba Dub connect man. That's my dog. Um man man y'all hey he already told me he another one that told me he was like man zero he rock with me he I was like damn man I got to get him on the show man I'm going to get him he like he he know you know he know I'm he know how I am about the culture so he like man he rock with me every time he said he [ __ ] with me man this was this is years this now been about almost two years when me and him was talking >> you know what I'm saying so I love the way you connect with the people that you feel to connect with >> and it and it and they and they love you know what I'm saying They got a love for you, respect for you because of the way you take your time knitting the people you deal with. I watch everything, bro. You know what I'm saying? [laughter] >> I mean, you know, I'm I'm I can't say I'm a good judge character cuz we all have those slips. >> Uh, >> no. Here lately, [ __ ] I ain't talking about I'm talking about that kind of >> Yeah. >> here lately, [ __ ] >> I'm talking about [laughter] talking about this whole time. >> Yeah. No, I feel you. >> This whole time like you don't know. Some people Some people uh >> some people surprise you. They they uh that wolf and sheep clothes and [ __ ] >> is real. >> You know what I'm saying? Like it's like [ __ ] actually be good people. >> Mhm. >> Until you tell ass no. >> That's you call them out on that whole [ __ ] Now they the worst [ __ ] you ever wanted to meet. [ __ ] want to sue you. [ __ ] want to set you up for this. [ __ ] want to get on [ __ ] get on some [ __ ] like this and just make [ __ ] up. >> Cuz if you if they can't beat you, the assassination of your character is next. >> For sure. >> Unless you really know that that [ __ ] is impossible to do. Like ain't none of this [ __ ] for real. >> That's real. >> You can't cancel no more. How you going to cancel somebody in the world, [ __ ] You can't like you can say it cuz you you you butth hurt about a [ __ ] whooping your ass or you buttth hurt about a [ __ ] taking your [ __ ] or taking your dude or selling more records than you or just you just like come on bro. You you did what you did and you failed. So now your job is to hate on all the people that did what you did and succeeded. >> That's real. >> I say if God is for you, nobody can be against you. >> Nobody can't take you down. >> Man, let me tell you something, man. When I when I was when thrive to interview you, my thing is you're to me a legend. A Texas legend. Like not only Texas, but just a legend period. Let's be real. And my thing is to celebrate this music and the stuff that you done achieved so that people can so other youngsters that's trying to come up cuz the music is going to get right. [ __ ] selling masters so they going to make them masters sale. I'm going put it like that. You know what I'm saying? Like [ __ ] spending a billion dollars on masters is not going to get rid of no music. So to to for me to be sitting in front of you here, that's why I come down here really, just to be here and show love and just the respect for what you done for us, man. We appreciate you and we love you as a as an artist. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I always put it out there like that. I don't play by y'all. And that's and [ __ ] know it though. That's the whole game for me. Any [ __ ] that ever disrespect anything my [ __ ] and not just text but the South, I'm a crazy dude, man, about the music and it's just the stuff that you done. It can't be played with for me. You know what I'm saying? And so when I see you out here and I see you like I seen you with sauce a few weeks ago, you know what I mean? Or I see you your influence is so deep. Whether you you know, no matter how you put it, it don't matter a [ __ ] come around you, you going to feel it cuz you done put that work in. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I love. You know what I'm saying? So when I I was so excited like, man, I got to interview Zero. I got this Zero interview now. I feel so good about it. These [ __ ] in trouble. I'm bragging on these [ __ ] ass now. I've been waiting on it. I've been telling these [ __ ] "Boss Talk 101, you seen us working. I'm 7,000 uploads in." You know what I'm saying? So, we love it. My wife, she support me on 100. You know what I'm saying? >> And I think this the dopest thing just to come down to Htown and get to kick it with zero, [ __ ] It's up. >> Do you believe in God? >> For sure. >> Tell me about a time cuz everybody When did you start believing in God for yourself? Not when you just going to church because that, you know, made you go to church and stuff like that. I'm talking for you, for yourself when >> ain't no way of knowing. >> You don't remember? >> No, I mean everybody's uh accountability different moment is different. So I mean I don't know what that I'm cuz I mean you're made to go to church as a child, right? So you're not gonna remember, >> right? No, no. I know you were made to go to church as a child, but normally when we get older and we go through something and we realize how God brought us through it, that's normally that that time where he's like, man, >> no, >> I you know, I believe for myself that this is him. >> It ain't it ain't take nothing happening. You know what I'm saying? It ain't take nothing happening or nothing. Cuz cuz if I was going to look at [ __ ] happening, I wouldn't believe in God >> really. >> If I was going to look at cuz ain't [ __ ] good happen. >> Do you ever? I'm still at this [ __ ] I'm still seeing all this [ __ ] I'm still going through the same [ __ ] I'm just going through it as a rich [ __ ] now. I I mean, the same [ __ ] has been happening. Like I say, I'm burying people. I bury more people than I bring into this [ __ ] >> So now, if I wake up >> and to bury another [ __ ] >> I wake up to bury somebody else. >> So I don't see the happiness in that. So, if I was gonna use a moment >> for God, I wouldn't believe in God >> because I have way more negative moments than I do >> positive moments. >> Wow. >> And doing what I do as a man, as a as a black man, as a from my own people, from like whatever it is, like if I had to choose a moment, then I wouldn't believe in God. So, it wasn't about a moment. It was actually about knowing that that there's a higher power somewhere. And I mean, you're forcefed this higher power [ __ ] from when you first start going as a jit to these [ __ ] churches and [ __ ] like that. And then once you get into a a routine of this [ __ ] when you become an adult, >> most [ __ ] stop that routine. They like, "Yeah, I ain't I'mma go to Carton tonight. I ain't going to church tomorrow. >> I'm getting [ __ ] up." For me, I just kept going to church. >> I kept going to church. And it was just the understanding of and I don't like I say I don't know when it was but I mean you I mean I'm I'm I'm cognitive. I know ain't no [ __ ] do this [ __ ] >> Come on now. >> I can look up and see how that moon hanging. I know ain't no [ __ ] do that. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Do I believe everything that they tell me that his [ __ ] and all I know I know goddamn well if it supposed to be two [ __ ] how in the [ __ ] they [ __ ] made all these [ __ ] people. I don't believe all that [ __ ] But I believe that there is a high power and I definitely know that ain't no [ __ ] hang that moon. >> [ __ ] is making clouds up there. [ __ ] is making clouds. >> I know [ __ ] is making clouds. They got cloud. They making clouds, but [ __ ] can't make that moon. [ __ ] can't make that sun. You know what I'm saying? Uh, >> and who the [ __ ] even told a [ __ ] that you can [ __ ] and make another person? >> Ain't no [ __ ] So I know it's a god. You know what I'm saying? somebody had to come like, "Why is this [ __ ] even called the table? Who who named this shit?" Like, >> yeah. >> Like, so it's just a lot of [ __ ] that you got to just know that people can't do. You know what I'm saying? As far as I I haven't seen too many divine intervention moments. Everything has been [ __ ] up. They got shot, they died. Yeah. >> They didn't [ __ ] make it. >> You know what I'm saying? No matter how hard a [ __ ] got in that [ __ ] and just, "Oh, Jesus, please." Flatline. >> So, if I had to count moments, I would be an atheist. like a [ __ ] >> So, you've never seen a person who've gotten shot and and survived? >> No, not really. >> Really? >> No, not really. No. If [ __ ] I've seen No. No. >> I got a couple people and got shot up and they didn't made it and they life ain't never been the [ __ ] same. Like I see carnage. >> I believe there's a reason for everything. So, it's a case where even although like I thank him for every single thing. It could be like, you know how you're driving down the road and you see where somebody >> could have hit you, >> but you know, didn't hit you. I'm like, I know that could have went the opposite way. >> Yeah. >> Or you had a wreck and you didn't die in that wreck and you're okay. You didn't hurt, but you look at the car, it's like, dang, [clears throat] I could have been gone. I know that it's it's a reason why I'm still here, you know? And I thank him for stuff like that. You know what I mean? >> Well, I mean, you're thanking, but as far as me believing in it ain't take none of that [ __ ] for me to believe. Let me uh trivia, but top three artists of all time, dead or alive, >> any genre? >> I can't. >> Top three. >> I can't even answer. >> Not even Mike? Not even nobody? >> I can't really say cuz I mean for a [ __ ] who only listens to himself. How can I answer this question? >> Any genre? So, you never listen to a Michael Jackson >> as a child? >> But does that make him the greatest ever? All right. >> Huh? >> Does that make him the greatest ever? >> No. I listen to a lot of [ __ ] that my auntie them had on Kiss 985 going to school gap band you know Zap Roger like I listen to a whole lot of [ __ ] but as far as when I start listening to [ __ ] I start listening to me >> that's hard >> so it was kind of like I know like and with Kino being my favorite >> shout out to Kino man I got to meet this guy I had met him yet >> that [ __ ] is you know he's >> you got to make that link for me man you got to link me up >> I think it'll be official at that point >> yeah somebody else just asked me uh who my Houston top five was and I you know I threw some names out there but it's like >> I can't really answer these things uh in totarium because I don't listen to nobody with me >> but you and it >> so >> it keeps you grounded. >> I might be it keep me selling records. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> It keep me it keep me not sounding like like I'm not going to just be listening to to Yellow Beas and Freddy like that. >> Yeah. Because I'mma go to sounding like yellow bezy and Freddy. >> That's hard. That's hard. >> Go to listening to too much Jeezy. I'mma be chill or [laughter] die [ __ ] Like I don't I want to keep being me. I'm fans of these people. But I just I happen [snorts] to do the same job that they do. And I'm kind of like really on like when I go get in the car, I'm going to cut on me some [ __ ] that I don't even got nothing in my phone that's out right now. >> Really? Yeah. All 74 albums in my phone right now unreleased. >> Wow. >> All of them. >> But how many albums you got out total? >> [ __ ] Over 38. >> Over 38. And let me ask you this cuz I see like Key with LD300, right? >> Who is there anybody around Zero right now? >> Yeah, there's people around me >> like like you know how he rapping. And matter of fact, L A L A L A L A L A L A L A L A L A L A L D300. You and him have y'all did something together? >> I don't think so. >> Not yet. But but but definitely you know you see him you hear him >> unless Ke put us on something cuz I mean me and Ke got a lot of unreleased >> got Okay. Okay. >> So yeah but I I [ __ ] with LD3. Yeah that's my dog. A cool [ __ ] >> He good people man. >> Cool [ __ ] >> Um I love to see like I said the music where it's at and just how y'all moving. >> Everybody around key. I I love that [ __ ] >> You rock with it? >> Yeah. I love that [ __ ] like Ki be it he be me and Hefner and it be and [laughter] it be key and my dog like it be like it it it don't take a lot. >> That's it. That's it. I I want to I also want to uh just say man you know you seeing you I think last time we was at that key I was with Key had me to come down and uh that was my first time really just meeting you man. Just like I said anytime I see you go up on this stage it's amazing man. I just was with you in Austin when you went on the stage. That was my first time being up there with you. And I was like, damn, man. Them people just they love you, man. And they love that's You got a lot of core. I like that about you and Twisted Black got that too. It's a core amount of fans that y'all got. A lot of them Hispanic, too. They love y'all, bro. I I like what the heck. I when when Twisted Black got out of prison, he came to my store, right? He came in there and said, "I man, he made me put up a wall, man. So many them Hispanics just start coming up, bro. They love him. They call him the Tupaca DFW, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all got a a cult following. Like, bro. >> Yeah, we do. Uh, see, one thing about it, man. Um, people sleep, but like when I came to the SU, the reason Scroo was even attracted to me in the first place was because I didn't sound like nothing else over there. >> That's real. >> So, they was rapping about what they was rapping about and I was rapping about the adverse effect. I was like, "No car. I can't get the bad yellow bone, [ __ ] I can't I don't have a passenger side to put her into." [laughter] You know what I'm saying? I don't have [cough] the marble floors. We're going to the Post Oak and not the Post Oak, not Tilman [ __ ] [laughter] We're going to the Post Oak motel. We We're going to some $45 an hour type a night. >> A night. You know them two hour two hour hotels, too, [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? You get about 20 bucks. Yeah. That's 20 bucks 15. You get two hours out that way. where I was that's where [clears throat] I was coming from. That's where I was coming from with my [ __ ] So, uh I don't know. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> I got a couple questions for you. >> And I Yeah, this Okay, we going to wrap it up after this cuz I got to get him out of here. But I want to ask you about I hate you [ __ ] and then I'm done. >> Okay. Would you rather have one diamond album that everyone knows or a 30-year career with a loyal fan base that supports everything you do? >> 30th. >> Easy. 30th. Who has the the better music business model? Independent artists like Masterpiece and Nipy Hustle or artists who use major labels to build global brands like Jay-Z and Drake. >> Can't really answer that. >> Why? >> Cuz because both are lucrative. >> Both can be right. I thought about that too when you said it. It's real easy to see. >> It was never just one. >> No, E4. E4. You know, me and E said like he's the one I look at as like he came with that independent wave and made it look good. Like you got to understand it's been done both ways and it's it can be lucrative either way if you do it. >> This one is less of a hassle. >> They both can be a h I don't do music. Go ahead, Zero. I'mma mess up the damn question. >> I mean, not a hassle. It's just whatever you doing, if you doing it for real, if you doing it for real, this it's going to be tedious. Whether it's whether you're a part of the big three or whether it's just you and me [ __ ] if cuz I mean you know what I do it's dope and then you look at people that come with a come with a label. They do the same thing. They might get a little less money than me but they going to go further than me too though >> cuz they got a machine behind them. >> They got a machine behind them. I might be taking 20 $21,000 a show. They might be taking nine or 10, >> but they going to have 18 of these [ __ ] this month. I'mma have >> six. Still made more money than them. >> But they got seen P star recorded they notice for they show they was on here. you know, uh, TRL, uh, [ __ ] the the [ __ ] that everybody, uh, what is the [ __ ] I mean, whatever >> whatever podcast you going to go to, uh, the tabloids, whatever the [ __ ] it is, they going to get pushed by that machine to go several way more places than I go. But I mean, at the end of the day, you know, they got a bag, I got a bag. >> Which builds a career, a longer career, making timeless albums or consistently releasing single hits? >> [ __ ] Both. >> Really? >> Both. >> Cuz I always wondered about that cuz I see some people only doing singles and not doing an album, but then some people loved us doing albums. I'm like, >> the roll out is different. They we got to roll it out right some kind of way. That marketing got to be on it, don't it, man? >> I mean, you know, you got some [ __ ] >> You don't want to see the kind of, >> you know, if the people if the people latch on to it. >> Mhm. >> That's the only thing that count whether they latching on to the machine base or they latching on to your little sweat and tears of a real human. Uh, it works both ways. >> Wow. >> Last question. >> Yeah, cuz I'm Yeah, you going too many. I asked you one damn question over there. Go ahead. >> Who has more influence over an artist today? Record labels, streaming platforms, or social media algorithm. >> I like that one. >> You know how you always talk about money. He's like, you only don't algorithm pays you and you have to watch all of that. Record label can pay you. I mean, all this stuff can pay you, but which one in has more influence over the artist? >> I mean, it just depend on that artist. like like it's kind of like uh these questions are kind of like based on what a person would do. You know what I'm saying? Like me I mean I'm independent so I don't know what a record label would do for a [ __ ] Uh algorithm I mean that's something that you can [ __ ] with as an independent or own a label. So, it's kind of like, yeah, the algorithm is cool, but like record labels don't even really exist anymore because >> they don't serve a purpose because, you know, everybody's record label is right here in the palm of their hand. >> Come on, man. >> So, this is the record label right here and the algorithm and your independency. >> So, I guess you could just say [ __ ] If you got a iPhone, [ __ ] you can have a career. >> Do you be watching your algorithm when But that helps pay you. >> It go. >> Why don't you watch it? >> For what? I don't have to. >> Why would I have to? >> Cuz if you study, you know how to how to put stuff out, how to work. >> Don't even have to think about it. >> I don't have to do that [ __ ] I'm rich than a [ __ ] right now. [laughter] >> Algorithm. So, >> I can understand somebody that's [ __ ] up having to [ __ ] with it. But I don't have to. >> That's hard. I like that. >> I don't really think anybody has to. All you got to do is just post your algorithm to do what it does. You know what I'm saying? All your algorithm is going to do is just tell you who's looking at your [ __ ] and where they looking at it at. That's all the algorithm >> and what time is best to post and how you can get more people and all of that. >> Yeah. If you spending money. >> So you don't feel like you can get you don't feel like you can get more people without spending money. >> I don't have thoughts like that. I don't have thoughts like that. Just working really nothing that's not broken and I don't Yeah. No, I don't. Mm-m. No. All that [ __ ] people be using is cuz they sorry and [ __ ] and they got to use that [ __ ] cuz they [ __ ] is weak. >> That's real. >> They [ __ ] I mean, if you got to do all that [ __ ] to sell your [ __ ] then your [ __ ] weak than a [ __ ] >> I like that. >> That's just me speaking as a [ __ ] Like, I'm going to get out there and take [ __ ] algorithm. I'm intimate. I'mma bring it to you. >> I'mma come to your area and bring it to you. Like, like that [ __ ] is cool. But I mean, like, nah. You said something. You said something that was dope in the mix of what you just said far as if they gonna pay for it. Like we organic. Our [ __ ] is organic. Everybody know we got if we got I might not get that million look that you getting but my 20,000 going to kick your ass every time cuz them [ __ ] don't even know you. You know what I'm saying? >> Mother they just Yeah. What what they want to do? Choose your audience. Why? >> That's right. >> Let my [ __ ] audience choose me. >> That's true. I ain't got to over I want to go in Africa and I want to go over here [laughter] >> and I want to go over here and I want to go over here. They going to tell you that that this [ __ ] you don't even know your [ __ ] going there. >> That's right. >> You know what I'm saying? You don't know >> they and then they took what $8 $900 of your money and your ass still had the same 10,000 likes you had. [laughter] >> That's so true. I never done it. I've never done it in my life. >> I did it one time. >> You did it? >> Derek McKenna did that [ __ ] >> Really? I ain't never did it. McKenna came in, he was like, "Yeah, I'm going to do this here." So, I posted something and I got like 40,000 likes on that [ __ ] And then he did what he did. Post like 17,000 likes on that [ __ ] Man, [ __ ] that [ __ ] I ain't >> That's right. No. [laughter] >> Like, hell no. >> Cuz you got a core base that's going to rock with it and you going to see the truth anyway if you period. I want to see the truth. >> Anybody Anybody that's anybody knows you post during traffic, you don't need an algorithm to tell you that people in their car People in their car from 6:00 to 9:00 in the morning and they in their car from like 5 to 8:30 in the evening time. Midday Saturday, nothing at night cuz everybody looking for somebody to [ __ ] some rob. [laughter] So ain't no posting on no Saturday. Sunday you can't cuz all these old fake god ass [ __ ] they [laughter] they doing what your man said. I go out I go out on Instagram. >> That's right. Old boy in Vegas. So, I mean, you just got to know like you you don't even need an algorithm for that. Was just looking Oh. Oh, it's a traffic jam. >> Post this [ __ ] right now. Hey, stop what you doing. You ain't doing [ __ ] [ __ ] You talking about [laughter] Oh, this [ __ ] Oh, man. This [ __ ] road trip. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like when when when COVID hit, my birthday party was on January 19th. They closed Houston down January 20th. >> Oh, wow. And they talking about can't if you in a big house, you can't have more than nine people at your [ __ ] You a small house. >> Yeah. They start saying all that. >> Everybody at the crib. >> That's right. >> Like we'll drop quarantine right now. I'm >> That's how boss talk happen. I'm telling same [ __ ] I'm like, "Oh, oh, Breakfast Club scared to go up there. I'm going up to my [ __ ] I'm hustling." >> Tell that why I'm like, "Yeah, man. I ain't need nothing to tell me." I mean cuz I mean this is this is before internet. You know [ __ ] ain't got nothing to do. >> You know you going to go on your lunch break know women love brunch. They love this old 12 to 2:00 ass [ __ ] Post [ __ ] I posted my chicken all during that. Oh yeah. Oh we just love. Yeah. Okay. >> Hustling. That's hustling babe. >> I just I've been doing this [ __ ] 26 27 years. So it's kind of like No. You know what I'm saying? >> Wow. >> So yeah. You say we from you was on that we from Texas with Kiki, man. You killed that. I want to tell you I love that. >> Yeah, that's the one where y'all All Sauce was on there. Slim was on there. Y'all killed that. I loved it. That you know it's I had him to do it. He said, "Pay attention, [ __ ] Texas is here." I had him on the show. I always mess with y'all, man. Cuz I I love it. You know what I'm saying? It's just Hey, man. We got good stuff, man. So, when it come down to uh I hate you. >> Yeah, I was about to say >> I hate you [ __ ] I'm about to I hate you [ __ ] That's the that's really one of the original early ones that you put together and and >> you >> what happened? >> Same thing happened tonight. It come back to fruition. That's why I that's why I wanted to bring it up last. He made me think of it. [laughter] >> Yep. I mean, [ __ ] You just had to listen to the song. >> And that's real life events. I mean, what that song >> was [clears throat] It was a prison. It was a prison scene in there in the video, wasn't it? Yeah. >> Mhm. >> All that [ __ ] >> I just shot it from prison, but I mean, yeah, it was a real situation. >> Yeah. M. >> So you when you do those songs and you put all of that and people, you know, see like, oh, he just went through that. Is that a way where you put it on the song so that it's for therapy, so to say, so you don't do nothing crazy? >> No. >> That's what a lot of people say is that their music keep them out of trouble, so to say. So they don't go out here and crash out. >> Well, I mean, I got I can think, so I don't have to have no songs, so I don't stop using my mind, >> you know? It's just, oh, some [ __ ] happened. I'm going to talk about it. >> Okay, >> that's just it. But I'mma I mean, I might still break your [ __ ] jaw. But I mean, [ __ ] at least I did. At least I made some money off of this [laughter] [ __ ] too. You know what I'm saying? That's real. >> You can break a jaw and go to jail or you could break a jaw and do a song about this [ __ ] jaw you broke and have money to get out of jail. >> Come on, babe. Hey, >> that one. So you never So you never every everything you go through in life, do you always put it in your music? >> Yeah, why not? >> There's nothing you never put on. So if somebody want to really get to know you, just listen to your music. >> Well, they can get to know Ro like that. They ain't going to never get to know Joseph. >> I was about to say, what's the difference between Joseph? >> Ain't no difference. It's just Ro talk to you >> and Joseph is more >> Joseph don't give a [ __ ] >> That's the raw >> to talk about nothing like Yeah. Like soon as the camera cut off, I ain't probably gonna say no more words today. >> Oh, really? >> To nobody. I'mma leave. If I go ride around here to my favorite restaurant, the pond when I walk in, they know to get me They know to get my French connection with the Louis ready. They I ain't got to talk. Just go. >> You get the same thing. You're you're a person of habit. You get the same stuff all the time. You eat the same thing as all the time. >> Depend on where I'm at. >> Ro said the palms. You said you seen your picture on the Palms. I stayed the Palms in Vegas. So I knew exactly when I heard you say that in that verse. I was like, "Yeah, I I I remember when they start putting up they took the bunny rabbit off. I was mad about that. That was mad when I was really doing it." [laughter] >> Well, see that's I'm talking about a restaurant. >> Okay. You talking about a restaurant over here, but did you was you talking about a But on the song you was talking about Vegas, wasn't you? >> No. >> They had your picture on the on down here in Houston on the >> It's right there. >> I ain't know that. Where is this restaurant at, man? >> Uh 1201 Fannon. >> I'm going to go see it. I'm >> walking distance from >> from here. >> Isn't that a Jamaican restaurant? >> No. >> Cuz I think >> And they had your They had your big >> Oh, it was Tropics. I think y'all >> I like that, man. >> Tropics used to have them. >> I don't know what that is. >> Okay. [laughter] Pal is a pal. >> I didn't know, man. I thought about Bay cuz they got Bro. Okay. >> I'm going to that hole. I'm going to go check it out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Thank you. Everywhere, man. Cali here. Atlanta [ __ ] You know chain like no boo >> already. >> But is the food good? >> Hell yeah. >> It's a Tilman fata joint. >> Okay. >> So, you know, it's very very expensive. >> Oh [ __ ] Now listen, man. You got to come by my spot in Dallas when you come up there. You got to take time to come see my I've been there 20 years. >> I heard you said oxtails. You know what? >> That's her. That's her. >> We got to take care of you. >> You like oxtails? >> We got We do. We got something. >> No. What? What you like? >> I can't eat no paws. I don't eat I don't eat paws. >> What you eating? What's your favorite food? >> And [ __ ] I'm eating like you know I'm on some healthy [ __ ] I don't know. >> Oh, he vegan now. You see how they going now? >> So you vegan? >> They vegan now? >> I ain't going to say I'm vegan. I just ain't going to eat no meat though. Pause. [laughter] >> No chicken, no fish, no nothing. >> No chicken, no fish. >> How you been doing that? >> I I do some fish every other month or something. But I mean, yeah, if Ever since I lost all my chins, [laughter] >> not been eating me. >> How long have you been doing it? >> I don't count time. >> You don't count time? >> Yeah. I just know I don't look. >> So, you feel better? >> Hell yeah. >> I'm going to have to get on this. See, these [ __ ] got me thinking, man. >> But, you know, some people say they want to lose weight and become vegan or become, you know, no meat, but then eat sides can bloat you up too and make you gain weight. Eating too much rice, eat too much beans, eat too much whatever. >> Well, I mean, if you got to do everything in moderation, >> right? But but to be actual, you can eat what you want as long as you putting in the proper work after you eat that [ __ ] >> It don't matter. So you can sit up in this [ __ ] you can eat three whole mangoes and still lose two pounds tonight in your sleep. >> Mhm. >> You know what I'm saying? Me [ __ ] [ __ ] Get one half a chicken. You can go get one half of chicken barbecue and just eat that [ __ ] for a whole week and your ass gonna lose 10 pounds. >> Wow. >> Because you're not eating those sides. People who are really doing this type of [ __ ] they not eating sides, >> right? I I know somebody who only eat meat. >> Yeah. And And they probably And they probably lean. >> Lean as hell. >> That's a lot of protein. >> That's my boy uh Dre. Shout out. >> Where do you get your protein from? >> Well, I mean, [ __ ] I work out every day. >> Okay. But where do you get your pro Do you take protein shakes? >> Every day? No, I don't have to take no shake. The type of working out that a [ __ ] do is is giving you what you see right now. >> Wow. >> You know what I'm saying? Because a power [ __ ] workout when you eat and how much how much beverages you taking in like you going you can eat whatever long as you ain't drinking nothing with it. You ate 30 minutes after you you ain't going to gain no weight. Eat your food, chill. Don't drink nothing. Wait, let 30 minutes go by then drink your [ __ ] Now you ain't doubled up on your [ __ ] And when when you do what you do and that [ __ ] come up off for you, that that extra weight coming up off of you >> and don't eat and go to sleep. >> You can >> you can >> but then you making it's not going to digest properly making it lay on your body wrong. >> How you know that [laughter] >> you working out right ain't nothing going to lay on your body. >> Okay. So the workout is the key. >> So do you got a trainer? >> Yeah. and he and y'all rock out and y'all go through this [ __ ] >> Yeah. I mean, I've been I've been I've been consistent with this [ __ ] since the end of 2016 and I went through a whole lot of different, you know, you got to find you got to feel your way out. So, you know, it first it was first it was just a you know, weightlifting. Okay, you get big, you get the thing about that, you get big, then you stop lifting, you you shrivel the [ __ ] up. >> You know what I'm saying? I ain't like that [ __ ] Then it was MMA and then a dude teaching us that died. Then you know boxing in a couple of different places and then why I landed at the place I landed at now. I've never seen results like how I and everybody else can see them in me right now. >> Wow. Wow. And that comes from uh the way I eat, the times that I eat, but most importantly, getting up early in the [ __ ] morning and knocking out this this this this [ __ ] ass workout. That [ __ ] going to keep you right. That [ __ ] going to keep you right. >> What's the latest you eat? >> Ah [ __ ] I eat it. I eat it about 2, three in the [ __ ] morning if I want to. >> Okay. >> Cuz he working out. He know he going to work it off. >> You got people that going to eat and then they just going to go lay down and [ __ ] If you go eat anything and lay down, that [ __ ] over with. >> That middle one. >> Yeah, >> it's all good. We got two more. All right. Well, I'm going to shut it down, man. Thank you so much, man. Zero, man. We It's been a pleasure, bro. You You made it. You made my trip, man. I ain't going to lie to you. I was so excited about it. I was so excited when you hit the DM. Me and you was talking. I was like, man, I've been waiting on this one because I it was important to me, man. >> Heavy. I was like nobody [ __ ] with this [ __ ] >> man. Boss talk man. I'm rocking with this [ __ ] Z zero. I I told him I said man you don't even know man. Like this Texas thing run deep, bro. And every time a project come out I'm coming down support. You got to let me know what's going on cuz I know y'all get down down here. You you'll do something for your people or something. Let me know man. I'm pulling up. Me and the wife. We going we going to gas it up and come this way cuz we respect you the utmost bro. You know what I'm saying? So one time for Texas man. Hey listen man. It's been another great segment. Zero's in the house, man. Did what we did. Boss talk 101. What a bossy talk. >> And we out. >> He went off. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. Lit. It's a unique hustle, [ __ ]