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The upcoming murder trial of Yella Beezy, also known as Mo3, has become a focal point of intense discussion involving key figures such as Kewon White, Devin Brown, and Trapboy Freddy. Central to the conversation is Rainwater, who clarifies that his name appears as "Benjamin" on certain legal documents due to internet lists rather than official state records. He expresses a distinct indifference toward the potential incarceration of the defendants, prioritizing the safety of his children over album sales or acts of revenge. The dialogue also touches upon the controversial role of managers in hip-hop culture, with Rainwater defending himself against blame for Mo3's death and criticizing how society unfairly targets managers while overlooking other industry figures like King V or Tupac's team. Beyond the legal proceedings, the interview explores broader themes within the music industry, including the use of lyrics in court cases and the shifting landscape of regional rap scenes. Rainwater argues that artists should avoid depicting real-life scenarios in their music to prevent such legal complications, while also voicing frustration with female artists who demand upfront payments before signing contracts. The discussion highlights the resilience of Houston's music scene compared to the perceived decline of Dallas due to streaming algorithm issues, reflecting on the contrasting careers of Bun B and Pimp C. Furthermore, the speakers debate the credibility of various witnesses, including Usher, and express sympathy for Roy Lee's family who lack child support benefits while Mo3 faces life imprisonment, noting how public interest often shifts too quickly to new deaths, causing victims like Nolan Wells to be forgotten. Ryan shares his personal reaction to Mo3's death, explaining that despite grieving the loss of his own grandmother and grandfather immediately after meeting Mo3, he chose to continue recording in the studio because Mo3 desired greatness. He emphasizes drawing strength from the resilience of those who suffered similar losses and asserts his legacy as a central figure in the Dallas music era alongside artists like OC Chris and Charles Whites. Ryan details his plans to attend the trial with cameras, potentially wearing a suit provided by a tailor, while also addressing rumors about Mo3's paranoia regarding partners and friends by recounting an incident where he intervened between Mo3 and another individual. The segment concludes with reflections on recent controversies involving figures like Blueface and Christian Rock, underscoring how internal conflict often drives success in hip-hop beefs across various cities.
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First of all, before we start, I got to say this. Rain, hold up your right hand. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Everything you're about to say, the truth. Swear to tell the truth. >> You got it on the truth. >> Just like in the courtroom. >> Ain't nothing but the truth. >> God, we got >> Yeah, we on boss talk oneonone. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. Lit. It's a unique hustle. >> Check it check. This is Unique House. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? >> No, no, no. I'm a damn well going. I want y'all to stop what you doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us from all social media platforms. When I mean all, I mean all I mean her. Instagram, Facebook, Tik Tok, Snapchat, you name it. We're on it. Just Google us. Balls talk podcast 101. We'll pop up first in line. I guarantee you. But y'all see us on the streets and talk about man. I love what y'all doing. Keep up the good work. How can we be a part of Ball Talk? This is how you can be a part of Ball Talk. Under each and every interview, including this one right here in the description section below, there's a link that says join our membership. Click that link, follow all the instructions. That's how you get to see all the exclusive content y'all been asking us. Where's this interview? Where's that interview? You got to be a member to see it. Or go ahead and download our app at Boss Talk101 on any Apple or Google store. Thank you and we love you. >> Hey guys, I'm not going to play with you today. I got a guy here don't need no introduction. We f to get all the way into the business. I've been hearing a lot of stuff that's going on and I know this guy to shed some light on. He going to give me what I'm looking for today. Y'all favorite guys in the building. Rainwater is in the building. What up, baby? >> In the mix. >> You got that orange on. The thing glistening, man. Look like a Maybback uh uh in the top. >> One of them little um >> Rolls-Royce. I'm sorry. Right. >> One of them little um Dallas um you know clothing line >> put it together for you. >> Yeah, he did it. I like >> shout out to that. You don't know his name? >> I can't think of his name right. >> We're going to shout him out, y'all. The guy with Jad on his on the front of it. >> I like his [ __ ] >> But hold on. I got First of all, before we start, I got to say this. Rain, hold up your right hand. >> Yes, ma'am. Everything you're about to say, >> tell the truth. >> Swear to tell the truth. >> You got him on the truth. >> Just like in the courtroom. >> Ain't nothing but the truth. >> Help me God. >> HELP ME GOD. >> LET'S get to it, man. >> I've been pract because they have >> The only thing we missing is a Bible. What about I'm going to pull this up right now cuz I have been thinking about this. Rain. Every name on this list. >> That's a lot of damn names. >> Rain. I ain't never seen no list like this in my life. >> Then then they got my name wrong. Your name ain't Benjamin. >> That's what they got your name as. >> That's what I'm saying. I I don't think that I don't think the list real. My name is not Benjamin. How does how the state of Texas get my name wrong? >> Yeah, that's crazy, right? I'm telling you, man. They got you on there. >> Benjamin Benjamin Rainbow. >> Hey, you talking man? My name is not Benjamin. >> What is it? >> My name is something else. Not Benjamin. >> Why you ain't saying what your name is then? >> Because if you know, you know. That's not my name. Nothing. No, I have no documents on the world saying my name was Benjamin. >> Well, what they got you on there? Yeah, Benjamin Ray. They they have every right and they can look up your birth certificate and all of that so they know. >> And they misspelled it. My whole name is not Benjamin. My name has never been Benjamin. I ain't never had mail come in and said Benjamin. >> So you think the list is fake? >> Because that's a Facebook name and Instagram name that I put. >> Do you think the list is real or not? >> I because you So you mean the the the government, the state of Texas didn't know don't know my name, bro. You they taking all the stuff a lot of this stuff coming from the internet, bro. That's what I'm saying. This internet I've never seen a internet trial, bro. >> It's not no internet trial. >> It's a lot of stuff coming off the internet they going to be questioning. >> Not real have It's a lot of [ __ ] that a lot >> that you ain't even heard yet. >> 12 terabytes. >> Yeah, it's a lot of [ __ ] >> Are you in court every day while this is going on? >> No, he can't go in there on thing. >> I can't go in there. I mean, I ain't trying to go in there till it's time till it's time to shine. >> But are you allowed to go in there? >> I don't know. >> Wait a minute. Till it's time to shine. >> Yeah. When I pull when I pull up in them black truck when I pull up in them black trucks them camera roll. It's time cameras rolling. >> It's time. >> When is your day that you're supposed to call you? >> I'm not sure. I ain't got yet cuz if I got spina I could be talking to y'all. >> Okay. Okay. >> So here we go man. Now there this is this is where I'm at with it. I'm trying to understand what is going on. I didn't know they do the pre-trial stage has been crazy for me. >> Mhm. Did you watch what was going on with the pre-trial? >> Loved it. >> Yeah. >> You basically sat back and watched all the questions being asked. Do you feel like the prosecutor did a good job? >> I um I was just more interested in them posting Mo three Mo 3 name everywhere. I'm only here for record sales. That's it. >> Yeah. To feed to feed my kids and hit me and my partner kids. Yeah. you know, um, uh, whatever. How have it turned out? Uh, you know, I'm here for for album sales and and making these kids don't have to go through the same [ __ ] we had to go through to get to to where we at right now. >> He's trying to capitalize on everything. >> The detective, that detective that they keep putting with you, like, y'all know each other. Do you even know this guy? >> Um, yeah. That's Bores. >> Bores. That's him. >> Yeah. He baddest [ __ ] in the land of Texas. >> Why is Borne listening at this music like this and investigating? He listening too much. He is a bad hip hop head. >> Yeah, it's not about Borne. It's another bad [ __ ] over him. Born got a bunch of sidekicks. What people don't understand, he got a bunch of sidekick. >> So it ain't just one. It ain't just boring. He got a whole team. >> Yeah, a whole team. >> And so when he comes out and start ask Did you see this guy? Mhm. >> He had he he he just started naming all the songs and everything, but at the end of the day, they stopped and they didn't they say they not letting but three I think it's one song that Yella got one song or more threes and the Vlad interview. >> Yeah. He don't want to be a concert in >> the Breakfast Club. >> Yeah. You don't want to be a concert in there. >> It's serious stuff on them on them interviews. >> I'm what I'm saying. So like like if I'm in court and I just hear and I'm sitting there in court and I just hear that [ __ ] come on. I'm like damn that ho jam. They got to cut that [ __ ] out. They you can't be in there with that >> three jamming too hard. I think them white people going to be jamming their head too like that [ __ ] d. >> No cuz to me with you sitting down and really paying attention to the lyrics of what this person is saying. Especially if you're in a frame of mind of obtaining evidence or trying to see if this can convict or get somebody off. You're not listening to the music as in trying to jam. You trying to find out what the person is trying to say. >> You going to hear that say Young Stove, >> it's going to go off. >> That money roll and the whole crack say got to cut the lights off cuz it's time to slide >> cuz he got Yeah. He got a lot of he got a lot of damn uh fans in there too. >> Yeah. Yeah. Going to be like a >> they going to ride with >> it going to be a sing along. You know what I'm saying? They got they got cut out. It go it going it's going to take it's going to take >> it's going to take the importance of the of the court hearing out. >> Do you think that hurt the trial? What >> the the the way this trial is coming that they basically said they can only play a couple of songs. >> No. No. They was the songs were distractions. >> Really? >> We got to get to the meat and butter of what happened that day. Them songs were distractions. What Freddy had going on was distractions. Everything been distractions. Shout out to Distractions in the city. So, we got to take all them songs out. Who said what on live? We got to get to the meat and potatoes of what happened that day cuz I want to know. >> Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't want to. You want to know? You don't You don't know. >> Hell no. I want to know cuz if I've been knowing, I would have broke it down on the internet already. I would have got the views and the money for it on my YouTube. >> No, but that wouldn't do anything for you as in getting anybody um sent where they need to go. >> I don't want nobody sent where they I don't care about people getting sent where they go. I just wor about the out themselves for his kids. You know, grown [ __ ] made their choices a long time ago how they want to live and what they want to live. You know, their parents should have made their choices of how they raise their kids. So, at the end day, I really won't care where nobody going. Um, as I listen to u Mo Brother, he said the same thing. I wouldn't care this and this and this. So, I'm just, you know, at the end of the day, I don't care about the album sales. My whole thing when I get out that car and we walk up to that front, I'm thinking about album sales. You know what I'm saying? That that's about it. Um um one thing I have learned about this situation, you can't worry about rappers. Rappers got their own choice in life. >> You know what I'm saying? >> You can't you can't tell me that after this incident happened. I know how the streets work, right? You can't tell me that you ain't that nobody called you or pulled you over to the side. Man, bro, this is what happened. This is what she saying. This this this. >> I thought it was a It was a jealous baby. Daddy said, "Look, but I I wouldn't I really didn't know what happened. I was I was rambling >> as much as you be in the streets. >> I don't be in no streets. >> You got your ears. You always tell us on this show, you got them hoes who come back and tell you everything. >> Yeah, but they it it shocked me >> cuz they ain't come back and tell you nothing. >> They didn't shock me. It shocked me the whole time. I ain't know what happened. I would have been attacked. I wouldn't know. I I don't know what happened with the situation. It shocked the hell out of me. But the way they talking about this and that, you know what I'm saying? and people paying this and paying that and all kind of [ __ ] >> And you tell me that the day when M3 called you and you were on the phone with him, he didn't tell you this is the person that's after me or he didn't tell you nothing like that. >> How can he tell the person after him and he and you seen how the dude jumped out? >> He might have had a clue, >> but you >> you know what area you in. You know what you're doing. >> You seen the dude jump out. So, how he going to tell me who it is? the police just some people play try to play detective more than the police. You got to let the police handle that. You know what I'm saying? Uh the dude half three can't tell who that [ __ ] was. So sometime just sit back and let the police handle that. Like I learned this whole situation. It's a lot of detectives on the internet. >> Right. You just held your hand up and you said you was going to tell the truth. Nothing but the truth. >> Right. >> You was on the phone with him that day. >> Right. How long? >> When he ran around the curb, around the corner, was you still on the phone? >> Yeah. >> When he uh when he got >> when he ran around the car, he he run comes out. He runs around. He looking in the door. Everybody on the internet looking at this. You on the phone with him? >> He ain't saying nothing. >> Saying nothing. He's saying where you at? They shooting. >> That's it. >> And they said he was searching for his gun. So you telling me he ain't said to you, "Where my gun at? Where my gun at?" You know what my gun? If I'm on the phone with somebody, >> he ask me where gun at. I don't ride with guns. I don't even be around guns. [ __ ] >> But you his manager. You supposed to manage. >> You don't manage no guns. >> Don't manage no gun. Don't manage no where he [ __ ] at. Don't manage where he eat today. Don't manage none of that. I just manage what I need to tell the label when the music come out. I don't manage none of that. >> But managers on a whole what I understand what I understand about managers and I know how you get into everything. >> Managers are like their babysitters so to say. Hold on. >> They have to do with everything not just the music. They have to make sure that all their entire lives. >> I was a little different though. Um, three had partners that was around him more than me. So, you know, um, you know, I'm a grown man. You think I'm going to be around [ __ ] every day? >> Nah. Hell no. >> You were at a different mindset back then than you are now. >> No, I was not. I was way worse mindset then cuz I the mindset I was in back then, I thought it was going to continue for for the rest forever. I ain't think you if if I knew he wasn't going to be here, I would have probably been with him every day. But you got to think about me sitting at home with my kids, you don't you don't think this [ __ ] a person not going to be here. So if I had the mind frame like I have right now, I would have been with him every day. He wouldn't been at no girl house. He [ __ ] all that [ __ ] So you know, >> but that wasn't the first time he did something like that. I guarantee you. >> I don't know. I don't know. >> You tell me you didn't know that he been at this girl house and not supposed to be at and all of that. >> You got partners. You got partners over there all the time. You got brothers, you got blood brothers, you got security, you got all these type of people that that did that outside the music as they say. You know what I'm saying? Y'all put too much on the manager. Y'all don't question no other manager. Why y'all ain't question King V manager and say you should have been the one who took the bullet for him? He shouldn't have jumped out the car and did this. Y'all ain't say this a Michael Jackson manager by having that doctor over there. Y'all ain't say this about Tupac manager. Y'all ain't say this about a lot of people managers. Don't put that [ __ ] on me because it's going to get views. >> But you're looking at the the managers that you calling out are people who have gotten way bigger than Mo 3 was at that time. >> Um, no, not really. Who? Kings one was bigger than Mo three at that time. Mo got way >> that's the only one. Uh, uh, that's one of the that's Pop Smoke Pop Smoke Pop Smoke at when he died too at at Airbnb. We talking about Nipy Hustle D2. Why you ask Nipy Hustle Man why he was out there by why why he why he why he was out there by himself in front of his store? I bet you the manager knew where he was though. >> The manager probably didn't know. That's a grown man doing his rounds every day. Nipy Hustle died the same time 03 died. Manager. It ain't manager's job to go do their personal life. XXX. Why y'all say why? Why his manager go with him? Go buy go buy go buy that vehicle. It ain't no manager's job. That's that that's relatives. That's that's that that that's people that's that's security. Managers like to be in every aspect of their life so that other people can't get in their ears and distract them from what they have to do. I wasn't that type of person. I wasn't tim artist. >> I am Rainwater. I've been around for a long time. I've been around since the first [ __ ] since the [ __ ] stood on stood on the goddamn table and did the douge. >> But that was the only that was the only artist that was bringing you the money in at the time. >> No, that wasn't really Listen, there wasn't really no money at that time. I made more money than I and I went farther. When the dancing area was there, when when when when when the party boys stood up stood stood on that table and said, "Hit them with that flex at PV." When Kirk Oang was there, when when when people was going to spring blings, when me and hit the ho was going across the world, this and that. I made my money then. >> I was full a lot. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, uh I've been doing this for a long time where I was already I my ass my I don't want to hang with no rappers all day. That was never my stilo. Like straight up that was never my stilo. So you know um you know um one thing I have learned about that manager job people go blame people people blame anybody they want to. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> When you know some people blame Gazi for it. >> They blame you more than anybody else. >> No they blame they blame Empire more than me. >> Really? >> Yes. Yes, they blame power. >> They do the insurance thing on them and say all >> people that it's clickbait. People want to blame somebody instead of the people that said we the one who did it. We the one put them on the shirt. We caught them hands down, hands down, man down. We called them all this. I ain't say nothing about those that people blame me for [ __ ] that that people raising their hands trying to get recognition for what they did. >> [laughter] >> Do you think that the the do you think that the state um how do you feel about the way they're handling the pre-trial stages of this? Are you you think everything's lining out the way it's supposed to be in a trial from your just you and how you feel about it? >> I really ain't just really been in the in the I ain't I ain't I ain't really just been paying attention to it. Not full time. Um, like I said, when I get out the car, this it's my time. Sean, >> you going I know you going to be suited and booted. >> Yeah. >> Is that why you got this haircut now? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. You and the braids. >> Let me Let me say this. Let me say this. I seen Yellow Bees cut his hair. >> Uhhuh. A lot of people say that you was pretty much mimicking his style when y'all was wearing y'all hair the way y'all was >> when with he now he cut his hair and your hair is cut. Don't you think people going to look at this and say what is Rain doing of no I had a mohawk with with three braids? The hell I was doing? I'm ain't lying. What the hell? Y ain't tell me I look crazy as hell with this damn mohawk with the little ass braids on top of my goddamn head. My head shaved to the side. Man, I was looking crazy as hell. I had to wake up and say, "Nigga, what the [ __ ] are you doing in life? You can't go to my daughter's school like that and go to any basketball game, any basketball tournament with a mo with three braids and and shaved at the side of your head. Then you think you think you like a damn dad. I look crazy as hell. >> You just conveniently come to this realization right now, right before trial. >> In the middle of trial, >> um, I had sat down with the movie produ producers and and and I look different from everybody in the room. I went to the BET Awards and all the executives that with all the executives that make millions and millions of dollars, I look different. I damn near looking like a rapper. Damn. >> And people that of my caliber was I was matching up to their looks. You know what I'm saying? I made it in the rooms, but I wasn't I wasn't I went to the Country Music Awards. I'm walking around with four braids in a in a mohawk. >> You say image is important. >> Yes. I'm walk around four full braids in the in in the Mohawk at the M country music award. >> Not always your talents and what your knowledge and your capabilities are. That's not important. [clears throat] >> Yeah, it is important because because white them white people you got to think I'm in a whole another classification right now. Them white people looking at me crazy. They don't know nothing about no rain and mo three. They don't give a damn about none of this [ __ ] Just another [ __ ] with these big ass chains with a mohawk on. I walk in my daughter's school and all the other dads looking at me like a clown. I got four braids, three braids sometimes. You know what I'm saying? So [ __ ] >> man. I I sit back and I think about some of the stuff that's been going on before this trial even hit. One of the things that sticks out to me is that they're using lyrics from music. I wait a minute. I need you to understand this opens up a whole new realm of using YouTube music interviews. This thing is happening like it never happened before with the way they brought this case out. They brought it out as a like a interviews and YouTube and all this stuff and they they they seem like that's where they were headed with it. Now >> using lyrics fights against what people have been trying to say this is just a form of artistry, freedom of speech. Do you agree with them using the lyrics? >> Many rappers know what they what they rap about when they rap about it. Are they rapping about real life situations? Do you think this is real life or is this >> not all of them? I'm asking you. I'm not sure. Um I ain't been around that situation to answer that situation. You know, u you never know what's real and what's not. Uh the best thing to do is artist keep that [ __ ] out your damn music. It'll come back. So you think they should keep it out their music? >> Yeah. Yeah. It depends on who you are. Like sometime it's in people. So people be saying, "Man, Mo 3, why he didn't tell Mo 3 this?" Why he tell Mo 3 lived his life like he wanted to live this life? If y'all go hear the song preach, he said, "Preach, if I die today, it's okay. I had fun." You know, it's it's in some people. If I can call him right now, he going to sit there and be happy. He ain't he going to say, "I ain't go out like no ho did or nothing. My kids rich. Stupid rich." Bet. I did what I needed to do. >> Wow. You know what I'm saying? I did my job. That's a man that came from nothing. Sleep on the floor. You know, you gota listen to his raps. He wasn't expecting to do this and do that that he did in life. So, you know, sometime people destined and what the people destined. The power of the tongue of a bad [ __ ] Sometime, you know, Mo had pock tattooed on him. >> He had a pock tattoo. >> Yeah. Yeah. And in his eyes probably think he went out his whole legacy like Pac. He gone. People still talking about him. He's still producing more albums. >> You posted something the other day in reference to Pac because I think you have a new um >> a new video and album coming out, but you did it in AI. You did AI version. Tell me about >> I just tested it. uh a company uh company was reaching out to Empire wanted to do a AI video. >> Yeah. And they did pretty good though because I I have I have had a couple >> That's what she posted, right? >> Yeah. I had a couple people do come up with some but they weren't as good as that. >> They look just like him. >> Yeah. Um Um I got a whole series of AI videos coming out. I got two real videos coming out though. Um I got a whole series of videos coming out. um um documentary Bad [ __ ] going to come out. Um this movie we started shooting probably in March 2027 >> about Mo3. >> That's a bad [ __ ] Um >> who's playing him? >> I'm not sure yet. >> Oh, you haven't found a person yet? >> I got two I got a couple people in mind. >> Uh I like the KO3 dude from uh from Austin. I mean from Arkansas, you >> know. Uh, uh, he got most three movement and stuff down pat. I think we'll roll with him. >> Okay. >> Wow, man. Um, Jay-Z came out in his last one of his latest interviews and said that he he hate he don't like battle rapping like that no more. >> He don't he don't think he's he's not with, you know, like it's going too far. Then he came out and he talked about somebody on the right after that. Like >> I don't listen. >> What? You don't? You just told him, man, that we really I mean, but he did. So, >> you agreed with him on that clip. >> That is not what we talk. I'm talking about him saying it. >> Can you tell you five Jay-Z songs like the Dard of the South? We don't care about that. >> I did say that. >> I'm I'm telling you, we don't. >> We worry about Pimp Cooing and the legends down here. >> People was in there arguing that whole fact. >> I I can't I >> I said it, I meant it, and I represent it. >> The East Coast music I can't really just listen to. >> It's not where we from. >> It's not where we from. It's not our culture. We got understand. But they can listen to our [ __ ] That's what I'm trying. >> Yeah. But we >> cuz our [ __ ] jamming. I think people took me literally when I said he not jamming. I'm talking about we jamming. Like our music be banging the trunk. I didn't want people to get that twist. >> Ain't jamming. >> That's what I said. [laughter] Asian ain't J. If something happened to Jay-Z right now, I won't care. As long as we keep if we keep our legends in that south, we good. That's what I That's It's a difference. I rather have >> I rather have bun and squad face than Jay-Z. >> That's true. >> Kevin Gates. >> I can't I don't know nothing about no no dip sets >> quarter water >> then all that [ __ ] I don't know nothing about it. >> Yeah. We don't do things the same. >> We don't do things the same. They they don't talk the same language as us. >> Then why you say they love our music? They don't resonate with us then if that's the case cuz they're >> they don't they've been biting us. >> They trying to find out how to get it back. >> Yeah. trying to find out get a baby. But they was doing that from the g the even from big pimping. Big pimp. We ain't give a damn about Jay-Z part. We We couldn't wait to that [ __ ] say they smoking eye throwing up. Keep drink up in my cup. All my le wood in my hood. They call it B. Everybody want a ball. Holls at the mall. That's what we want. >> Yeah. Yeah. We [laughter] He was speaking our lifestyle. >> He was talking about that [ __ ] was funny. >> Jay-Z didn't know nothing about that song. He wasn't how brows on Broadway [laughter] walking too fast. You know what I mean? >> They don't even talk to you out there like that. >> Jay-Z was one talking about catching hoes on the train or none of that. It's going to be >> what pimp said he he spoke out whole culture. >> Then he then he shouted out what y'all knew about them Texas boys. >> Yeah. That that [ __ ] pimp special [laughter] wouldn't go on the boat or nothing with him. He just stood on the We got him a white girl and just stood >> Oh, Pimp never went on the boat. >> No, he ain't go. >> He ain't go. >> Oh, Bun did. >> Bun went out there with >> I think Bun was a sellout. >> No, we didn't do that. >> Bun was a sellout. >> No, he wasn't. He had his own way of doing things. They're totally two different >> two different ways. They do. I've interviewed Bun. Bun a different guy. >> So, well, >> no, they damn they come from the same. They come from the same They different. >> Their personalities are different. >> Oh, he grew apart. No, they were different from the jump. The personalities were different. >> So Bon was set up neither. He He had his own way of doing things. >> So Bon wasn't had a pocket for the stone. >> What Bun did and what Pimp did was done in two different ways. Bun don't even wear jewelry. He didn't wear the jewelry and none of that stuff. >> Yeah. He was Yeah. Pimp >> Pimp was out there wearing minks and everything. >> Let me ask you a question. Yeah. Pimp was Pimp was the culture. If we if we flip If you flip it, >> Pimp wasn't just the culture. Bun was too. Cuz Bun spoke about things we were doing. >> You're right. Right. Listen. If you flip it, you think Pimp would be big right now? >> They would both ride home. >> No, no, no. If you flip it. >> Yeah, they both would be big. >> What happened to Big Bun? >> Yeah. >> And Pimp was here. >> Yes. >> Who had the bigger impact? >> I can't I can't say it would be I can't It's hard to say because what Bun has done since Pimp been gone is cold. But Pimp, I think Pimp, even Bun say Pimp is is like that UGK thing is Pimp. Pimp love this music and this culture the way he does it. Bun even give him the respect that it was about. He said I didn't have to do much when I go in there. It was already done. Pimp have it already done. Pimp work that day and night. That's pimp. >> Yeah. >> So he more the producer and all that. He just like kind of more invested. Like I love this [ __ ] >> No bun. No. Bun just played his part. Bun wrapped and bun lyrically like pimp said could nobody out rap him period. >> What you think about the Houston music scene? Is it dead now? >> Hell no. >> It's dead. Music ain't never going to go nowhere. >> If Houston dead, what is Dallas? Dallas on the on the on the down on the downside. What do you mean? If Houston is dead, what the hell is Dallas doing? >> Dallas on the downside because, you know, we still have um New Dallas and Big X and everything holding it up, but they on they they declining. Yeah. But they could say the same thing about Mexican OTM. They could say they still platinum artist. >> Yeah. I'm saying, but they I'm talking about the baby. They still not only not only that, who else you still got? Now you still got huge artistes over there. >> Travis Scott and them still huge artist. If they want to come out and do something, it's going to go. >> Are you sure it's going to go? >> I know it's going to go. >> Lizo said no. Lizo say her [ __ ] didn't go right. >> I'm telling you, you don't understand. >> Why Lizo said the state of music? >> They say it's the algorithm and they blame it on the industry. >> Yeah. You know, Lizo say it's been >> It's not a people. People still out here loving the music and want to hear the music, but it's all have to do with, >> you know, the smartest person in the world in the state of Texas is sauce. Sauce have sat back and watched everybody streaming and start to start streaming. >> Okay, that's the smartest [ __ ] Ain't nobody else doing it. Everybody else in the music industry done fell the [ __ ] off because they done fell the [ __ ] off because they don't know what to do and how to do. Thank [ __ ] I don't I >> Sauce is the smartest [ __ ] that's staying relevant. Houston and I love Houston. I love Houston to the heart. What? What the hell? What? Who's streaming in Dallas? Nobody. That's why they falling out. Big A tried to stream. Nobody gave a damn about her. You just got to keep going, man. Listen, that's over with. That's over with. Shout out to PB. Murder Gang. PB. PB. PB as a grown man left this whole situation and he ain't over there no more. Nah, I just seen him today. Nah, PB got P grown PB becoming a grown man. >> What does that mean? >> I mean I mean he just became a grown man. I he came from a little boy to a gang member to everything to a grown man. >> So he changed his life. I got to reach out to see what's going on. >> I like PB. I like >> he said he changed last time when we interviewed him that he left all of that behind trying to do something bigger better. >> I like PB. Um >> but nothing wasn't wrong with him being with Big X. >> That was nothing wrong with that. >> You got to ask him though. I ain't going to speak on that. >> Okay. Yeah. cuz I I lead into a grown man, >> man. People be doing some grown man [ __ ] right now that a lot of people wouldn't take the time out to understand and see some people be blinded by Instagram likes and Instagram followers. And so what he doing right now is some bad [ __ ] [ __ ] where everybody else and he made it out. He came in the game and made it out. Everybody else didn't understand that. Look at Yayo from Fort Worth. You know what I'm saying? He he made it out. Um um for work got a whole new identity. You know Johnny dancing doing the B. You want me do it again? >> No, don't do it. >> Okay. [laughter] But >> why is he there? I mean a lot of people get I I mean I see him doing his thing, man. >> He's still he doing his thing, you know. [laughter] >> You know what? You said something earlier. You said that you know there's power in the tongue >> right >> of what you say >> right >> do you believe that because that song spend that everybody was talking about how not everybody but a lot of people spoke out against that song >> indie spoke out >> indie and others did too saying that it's very inappropriate because you have kids who are singing this song >> yeah it's very appropriate >> you have you [snorts] know what I got daughters >> I ain't we need to make it don't spend it. You need to get a drive and hustle, learn it, >> and scammers and all that. But then you had more three who talking about sliding and killing and this and that, whatever. >> That was 5 years ago. >> And is it okay for kids to be hearing that song and rapping that song, too? >> That was 5 years ago. So, you know, I have growth. People just still want me to be the same dummy. >> But you still putting out his music. >> Ain't nothing talking about slot. You must ain't listening to I got to ask you about this. Did he got into a fight in jail? Did you hear about it? >> I don't believe >> Diddy was in the hole, man. He whooped somebody in there. Yeah, but you you know you doing >> Diddy put hands on somebody in there, man. >> Diddy doing a good roll out. >> Oh, you think what do you think happened with Diddy when he come >> supposed to be getting out? >> Yeah, it's a good roll out. I heard R. Kelly coming out next. >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, let me tell you something. R. Kelly come out that jail >> and put on a concert. >> It's over. I'm going to be honest with you. It's over. >> As a black man, you ain't [ __ ] until you catch a sexual assault charge. >> What? What? What did you just say? >> In the industry, everybody had caught something had to do some sexual charges. Have you? that made I'm not I'm not sure I'm not sure names to whoever the most powerful black men's have >> who >> or Kelly Mike Tyson Co. Yeah. Should I keep going? >> Keep going. >> P Diddy. Um Um >> You can't go. >> Jay-Z got a uh Jay-Z got Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. >> They was coming after him. Don't do that. Yes, they were. They were coming. You know, people are I said he wasn't jamming, but as a as a man, as a he's a standup guy. >> Kanye. >> No. No. Kanye Kanye ain't big enough. Them people Kanye big enough bigger than some of them people that you name. >> Who I name? Who I name? He's bigger than Bill Cosby. >> He bigger than Kobe. >> No, big Kanye West is not bigger than Kobe worldwide. No. No. No. Did he I'm tell you right now, when did he get out, man? They say his jet done made like 5 million since he been gone. Yeah, private jet. When did he get out? Did he did it going to be bigger than 50 C try to make the man look good bad? >> But the culture we live in, people don't care about no gay [ __ ] People don't care about none of that [ __ ] They just care about how much money you got. It could be grown women still having sex with having freak outs. They can't wait to go to a dy party. I can't I hope I get invited to a D. >> Like would you really go? >> Yeah. They say rain water. You've been invited. I'm here. Here. >> You just said you have daughters. >> But I ain't doing nothing. I'm just going spectating so I can tell y'all about on interviews. >> You want to see? >> I want to see it. I want to see what I've been hearing about. >> A few people say they win. It wasn't like >> I I I I'm telling you, I went to a pre a pre-party uh after >> free party >> after the um after the uh Grammy one year. >> It wasn't that bad. >> It was that bad. Free food, everything. Free food. Look, everything. You just go in there, go in there, you eat first, then you go drink everything you want to drink, then you head you head out. >> It's a room or something? >> Yeah. Now I just like, you know, like a big facility like like living room. You got the pool back there. You know what I'm saying? Just don't go past the pool. >> Oh, don't go saying, >> man. What do you think about Lil Wayne getting a a star on the Walk of Fame? >> He deserve it. >> Finally. >> N Finally, he can't something. >> Well, do you think it would he got Okay. Why do you think he value it more than him being getting the Florida Leaf in New Orleans? Cuz they put Florida leaf down there. P started that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that ain't [ __ ] business [ __ ] [ __ ] pee got going on. >> No, man. >> Yes, it is. >> No, man. They trying to move it. Why do y'all not value your city and where you come from? You putting a a star up on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. >> Okay, that's cool. But I'd rather be loved in my city >> and accepted by my city. >> Most people get killed in their city. >> Yeah, but I I rather I'd rather put my star down there than Texas. >> No. No. No. >> Yours in Jamaica, right? You want your You want your Hold on. You want your Texas You want your star down there in East Texas? >> That's cool. >> Where? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Listen. What we going to do? >> In the country. >> Yeah. We going to do we going to put your [ __ ] right there in Long View. [laughter] [screaming] >> Yes, sir. Please. >> I mean, take it to my heart. >> Right there on I 20. We going >> I'll be just fine with that. >> We going to build a statue of this man right there on 20. >> I'll be just fine with that. >> Like right there before you go to Streetport. >> Just like Just like you going to uh >> right before you go to Streetport. Have >> mine right there. With a >> B. There you go. right there going to streetport. When you pass through, you see me right there. Go by the cattle lake. >> This thing came out that out that >> hell no man. George Foreman from down there, man. You got a lot of people down there. You got a bunch of football players [ __ ] down there. >> George Foreman don't rep that east like that. >> Yes, he did. >> You crazy. I met him at the at the mall in East Texas. >> We don't see no museum, none of that [ __ ] >> He was he was rocking in Houston a lot. >> Yeah, that's why I'm telling you. >> But he he had a farm and some animals down there in East Texas. People from East Texas get >> Bro, why you keep tripping on He said, "Man, leave these Texans out your mouth, dude. You done pissed a lot of people off. You went on a show. A lot of people were roused up. You need to stop playing around with these Texas." >> I love him. I got shot in the >> And I heard you got got an artist right after that. Do you got an artist you dealing with now? >> CJ. Oh, you CJ. >> What made you pick him after you were picking on East Texas? >> I was just looking for it. >> Oh, you from East Texas? >> Yeah. I I I got listen my my my technique >> man do some crazy stuff. >> Listen my technique is I get people round up and then it falls in my lap. You know people like to go against anything I say then to make me bigger stronger. Oh that [ __ ] big. Uh uh just tonight academic will be playing his [ __ ] everywhere in the clubs in Canada with Drake. >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. I got you know I got some big [ __ ] going on. >> Yeah. You connected. >> Yeah I got some big [ __ ] going on. Uh uh uh CJ going to be the biggest thing in Texas in a couple months. Uh y'all know y'all know at a snap of my finger I make anything big. I'm trying to sign Little Red now from Houston. Uh one thing I came to a conclusion I ain't [ __ ] with no more big girls. >> Why? I thought you had one. >> Yeah, you just had one. >> I didn't have nothing. I was just supporting I was I was supporting and they they always go against the grain and they >> What happened to this one now? >> Nothing happened. I was never I was never >> How did she go against the grain? You said they always go against the grain. How did she go against the grain? I gave her a contract, right? >> Mhm. >> And she was like, "Okay, cool." And I gave her the same contract I give everybody else. Then she then she sent the contract back and said she want $10,000 up front and only give me 30%. Baby, you ain't even got a,000 views on YouTube and you want $10,000 up front. What the [ __ ] All I've been doing is shouting you out and I gave a Mo three beat and let her rap a Mo three song. They they collab they collab with me on on Instagram and the song did 600,000. Damn. Right. And but then they told me that I need to give her $10,000 just to sign me and pay for all her [ __ ] I'm I'm damn near out of $50 $60,000 before she even get signed. I'm not taking that risk cuz you might not ever get signed. >> You know what I'm saying then? So I'm like, "Okay, cool. >> Cool. It's cool." It's like sometime when you try to help people, they [ __ ] up their own blessings. And then Big E. Big E was my dog. Do dog. Big E [ __ ] Big E was focused on moving with somebody who don't even know the culture. >> You don't know the culture around here. I am the streets, but you don't know the culture around here. I told >> You are the streets. >> Yeah, I am. And when it come down to music, >> but you don't know what's going on in the streets. >> I don't know what's going on in the street. >> But you are the streets. >> I just own his ass. >> I Yeah, I [laughter] just keep hearing [ __ ] I don't know what's going on on the street. >> Oh, so you keep hearing stuff? >> I just keep hearing. >> So, but you ain't heard that what I asked you earlier. >> Well, no. I mean, I just know little smile [ __ ] like Big T. They selling them new shiny shiny [laughter] forces right there. Let me ask you a question. >> Let me ask you a question. You I don't know if you keep your I know you keep your ears in the street. What what what what happened was it was a little yellow skinny girl Usha brought up >> Usher brought up on stage and he >> I seen that >> and Usher said, "Go get off here. She don't even seem like she want." And then she end up on TMZ the next day. Yeah. Usher did right. I think she was ready to sue him. >> Mhm. >> She was going to play like he did something to her. >> Yep. I think she cuz she was like up like >> she was very stiff. Yeah. >> But if that's the case after that, you would think that Usher would stop doing what he's doing. He did good the next night. >> I understand that. But you wonder people's motivation. They might have ultra motives when they come up there. >> That's what I'm saying. Usually still, that's part of the show. Elsa humping something. Uh um I be down. I be I be down. They try to put my bait mama somebody my baby mama on stage with me. I'm going with her. >> You going to be standing by the bed? >> Right beside the bed. >> Nah. Hell no. You better not touch this goddamn bed. I'm going that damn air match. I'm going to poke a hole through that [ __ ] or something. [laughter] You think I'm going to do that? >> So, so that girl, she looked like when he got over her cuz he was getting down on her, he to go on her. >> And then when she look, he she did like that. He like, "Oh, whoa. Nah, man. Get him up here. She don't seem like she want to be up here on the stage." >> And she said, "Y'all y'all invited me to come up front like her friend or mama or something." >> Yeah. Yeah. That's a real respectful girl. You got to marry that type of girl. I salute that light-skinned woman. Let that been a darkkinned woman. She would let that man hump all on her. >> That's why I don't [ __ ] with black women now. >> You hear this >> now? >> Yeah. That's in 10 years. [laughter] >> In 10 years, you ain't mess with >> I a no black women cuz that that that light-skinned woman had dignity. She had respect for herself. She respected the the the black women culture and the black. I guarantee you if the next night user had a black woman up there humping her just dry humping her a black woman with kids with a baby daddy on child support. Man, [ __ ] them. He's so wrong. I got to ask this question. So, um, in court, I want to go back to the court. Uh, >> oh, >> is there anybody um from M3 side that be in court every single day? >> Mama, >> she'd be there every day, >> I think. So, uh, Chris Go, Ratchet TV, Motie, I forgot her name. Um, um, it's quite a few people. >> Okay. I just was wondering if he had representatives there. Yeah, it's tough to to see her have to go back through it and relive, you know, trying to figure out what happened with her son, man. That's >> And it's tough seeing everybody, you know, be having to face that. Like it been five years, man. They waited a long time. Six. Six years now. >> Especially when you hear stuff that you never knew before come up. >> Yeah. I don't I'mma cry. I don't want to go. I don't want to go up being there that long. Especially by hearing Roy Lee. >> Yeah. That's this situation. I'm standing with Roy Lee. this whole situation >> because that's where it all stemmed from. So that they have to bring all that back up allegedly. That's the reason why they have to keep bringing that back up, right? >> Yeah. Um Yeah. I'm standing with Roy Lee. >> Did you ever hear Mo3 say anything? I know I seen when he talked about him after he passed, but before when he was alive, Mo 3 and Roy Lee, were they together like that? >> Uh I was I was the bridge. >> I made I put them together. So, did he do like is there comedy skits out there with Mo3 and Ry? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They first came together. They did a comedy skit at the U Mattress Place. I was there. They was cool. >> Did you see Did you see anything special about Roy Lee when this stuff was going on? >> Yeah, my [ __ ] >> So, you introduced them? >> Yeah, I introduced them. >> Do you regret I thought >> Do you regret any of the stuff that with them now both being passed away? Yeah. Really? Okay. He didn't chose this, you know. Uh yeah, that my D my for my dog. But Roy Lee, it kind of hit a little harder. Roy Lee left five or six kids and they don't get the benefits and [ __ ] as Mo three. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> they probably hear about Mo 3, Mo 33, Mo 3, Mo 3, Mo 3 and >> and being set up, but they're not being set up for life. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't give a damn what nobody say right now. I took care of one of my partner's kids and and I'm on some Roy Lee [ __ ] >> Did Mo three and Roy Lee, if that never happened with with Roy Lee, do you think Mo three will still be here? Um, some people be have their mind made up in life. >> Are you saying if it wasn't that it'd be something else? >> I'm just saying people just have their mind made up in life. Like, you know. >> Yeah. You know, can't you can't you can't you can't race was already written. >> Wow. >> Hold on before you jump. >> I got to ask him something. I want to stay on this [ __ ] >> That's what I'm doing. Yeah. Um Roy Lee cuz he passed away from a was it a blood clot? >> No. Yeah. He got shot and then he got shot. >> No. And then he left something with his leg >> like a day. Yeah. >> Yeah. A week. >> So I'm just saying like if he had stayed in the hospital and gotten treatment and whatever, >> the hospital don't keep you that long. You ain't got insurance. >> But if he had not >> a blood clot, you don't know. You don't know when I was going to hit you. >> So it wasn't because Well, nobody know if it was because he got up and tried to go. If he had stayed there, he might still be here. >> No, you can't. Who going to stay? The hospital don't keep you that long. >> I'm talking even at home sitting down. >> And you can't sit, you can't sit down too long. You got to get up and move. When is your time? Is your time. You can't you can't you can't predict that type of [ __ ] And say what if and how if and what if. Well, Lee couldn't stay in the hospital that long. You forgot I got shot in the leg and I left the same day. You know what I'm saying? >> And you left the same day. You started moving around. >> I went to the club the same night. Went to Nikico's. >> Sometime things just >> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I went to Nico's the same night. >> It had to hit something that they didn't notice. >> Yeah. It's something. >> It was something they didn't notice. >> Well, yeah. So, you know, um >> Damn. You know, I just Man, I I got it's questions, man. You said something about Dallas earlier that really threw me off. You was like in Houston that they don't stream or whatever, but certain people that stream. Are you with like Big Meech? Big Meech streaming and saying this stuff now. >> Yeah, I'm next. I'm uh Yeah, that's the new way, man. >> Cuz Big Meech is saying stuff now and he going in on 50. He going in on streaming is bigger than rappers. >> It's big. >> It's huge. I'm stream I'm going to start streaming tomorrow on Twitch. It's who like streaming is huge. >> Yeah, but what's his name? Got off of um streaming and he was one of the biggest ones there. >> Cool. >> What's his name? Kasa. Yes, he got out. He got out and he came back strong. He back. >> Oh, he back. >> Hell yeah. Did Screaming Universe streaming is bigger bigger than rapping. Y'all got to think about it. At me in in my in my 30s, I'm chasing I'm chasing what's the boy name T. What's that boy name I chasing last year? >> Who's Speedy? >> Speed >> around Dallas. >> I show speed >> for five hours >> and he walk he went to the the mile like like [ __ ] Michael Jackson went in there. streaming. You got to think about Adrian Bronner was big as hell and and and and and lost everything and streaming brought him back. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? >> I show speed be everywhere traveling and the crowd. He went to Jamaica and the people that was following him. >> He went to I mean all these different countries. >> That's what I'm saying. Streaming is bigger than rap. >> Uh uh. What's the what's the boy's name? What's the people name out there? Um uh uh E. Um where >> um >> DDG not yeah DD not DDG but um >> Dean Dean and uh AB they killing again. >> Yeah Dean and AB killing the situations. Um >> but they getting sued too. >> Earl Spence need to start streaming. >> Earl Spencer done retired now. >> Yeah, he's done. >> He done now. He don't want to do that no more. >> I was I was rooting for him. >> This last one he I felt like he should have won that one if he had just focused. >> What you mean focused? This [ __ ] he didn't have no legs no more. >> So his legs gone >> gone. That car wreck gone. >> That car wreck did it. >> They they they they always say these conspiracy theories be right like they that you know what what they say about that. >> The spirit of three be eating people up. >> How is the spirit of three eating people up? >> Anybody was supporting the situation. Early ain't been the same since Early ain't been the same since after three died and him and Yella went to Mexico. Three died in yellow and and who Earl went to Mexico. >> What does that have to do with anything man? >> Sometimes you know God know you know what's wrong. Get the hell away from that type of situation. You know you know when the devil start playing them games man they start attaching to everybody lives. You better get the hell away from that situation. >> What was it? Why would why do people think that Mo three had a problem with Earl Spence? >> Did he? >> Why? That's that's what people think. He never so so much had a problem. He just start doing [ __ ] that EJ did. I had to try to step between like what? Like >> give an example of something that you had to step in between. >> I just stepped in between the situation. >> Oh, you don't want to say >> three three start tripping. >> Was it over a woman or something? [ __ ] no. You hanging with a [ __ ] that that that that keep that I'm hearing put money on my head. Oh, >> okay. >> Cuz he ain't he ain't heard that. He had heard that during that time. >> He started rapping about go listen. You must ain't listen to his songs. >> He didn't. They didn't put take three or none of that stuff in there. >> Yeah. I'm talking about this before that. >> Really? >> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like >> I ain't heard no songs about that. >> I know you ain't listening. >> What songs is it? >> There's a lot of songs. >> So he wouldn't let nobody around him who hang with somebody else he didn't like. >> Uhuh. I'm paranoid. Paranoid. >> Even if you known this person a long time. Hell >> no. Your partner, whatever. Hell no. VCP [ __ ] a [ __ ] walking talking to somebody he don't know what they trying to do and you know I had to step between that cuz it got to a point where EJ didn't know what to say or do every time you seen three where rain at where rain where rain where rain >> because you know you'd step in between >> I step between like I step >> and you didn't care if he >> I looked at EJ like my partner at the time >> so you didn't care if EJ was hanging with other people. Now I would know cuz we had a good understanding. >> Okay. >> And three was like, "Man, you got jump. They left you out there. They ain't your partner. He left you on that ground. They ain't your partner." Like one day we was we was doing a broken love video. >> Mhm. >> In the apartments. So we all in the garage. EJ out there training. EJ running all through downtown. and me three like it's like 15 of us and EJ coming through from running and he he he I know he see all the people but he kind of looking for me then he seen me kind of came over there and u you know um I'm a little different though if I know you know you I ain't I wouldn't let nothing happen to him I'm actually got no elevator Mhm. >> And uh >> do you think he regret some like that night? Do you do you feel like three about that when you when you ended up they end up jumping you down there? Do you feel like he should have played part in that though? >> No. He should just let me on the ground like it went. When it's written, it's written. It's cool. >> But what about you and him was friends before that? >> Yeah. Some um a great man told me, "Everybody ain't your friend, everybody ain't your partner." I got I got more love from a [ __ ] a day three not a day one. Same as three. >> Wow. >> You know what I'm saying? Three Three got more Three will tell you. He got more love than somebody love expected. So, you know, however it is, however it is. Cool. It all it all came out with it supposed to be. >> Wow. What about Let me Let me ask this. Pushy. They not They're not giving him no bun. Say >> it again. >> They're not giving Pushy no bun. He been trying to get one. Pushy tricked this up out his goddamn spot. They ain't giving him no bun. He done tried again here lately. >> Yeah. >> Is he going to get life? >> I don't think he'll get life. He about good 10 15 years. He just did time probably. That's what I'm saying. He going he go after this time he going to learn. He might come out with first day out too. FDO2. >> Can he come back after this? >> Oh, we going to be he um if he want to come out. Sound like he from the blues. It's cool. It sound like he wasn't seemed like he wasn't working because he ain't put out no songs since he got out. I mean, since he been in there, um, I I think I think Puchis was just [ __ ] I think Puchis had a whole lot of bae moms in the city of Dallas. It when Poo Shai went back to jail, everybody lives back to went back to normal because when he was out, that [ __ ] were hitting everything in Dallas and they let him out in Dallas. >> They were hitting everything. He couldn't leave Dallas. >> That [ __ ] had so many hoes coming up and down them elevators and [ __ ] baby mama's, nigga's girlfriend, everything. And Pushis was a wild animal. He deserved to been locked up >> the way he was [ __ ] up [ __ ] lives. I mean, Puj had about four baby mamas. >> Damn. Nolan Nolan Wales is I want to know your your stance on the Nolan's whales. >> Nolan got killed. He went out on a boat. >> Now from Ben Crump to Al Sharpton, everybody is fighting to see if Nolan what happened with Nolan. They got all type of people named most of don't look like Nolan. He was out there really on his own by himself when it come to color barriers. That's Yeah, man. See, [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] [ __ ] don't forgot about Camelo Anthony. He in prison right now. We speak. >> They on They Nolan dead, man. >> I understand that. But Clo and Bro, we forgot about >> they trying to get him out. Ain't he the trying to bring another pill? >> People forgot about it. He really He really adjusting right now in that pen. He adjusting that pen. >> He adjusting that [ __ ] 19. Yeah. Yeah. >> You act like I get it. And he he I don't think I don't think he deserve the time he got. But knowing what it's like to go to prison. He 19. He this boys go in there at 15. >> And for him, >> did you hear what I just said? I seen boys in there at 15. Now he 19. He goes in, >> he already got a reputation that that he killed somebody. I'm just being real. Whether you want to take it or not, that's what his reputation is. So when he go in there, he go into a place where it's going to be a lot of people that kill somebody. They gonna put it like that and he g he gonna play in. >> You think he you think he you think he end up doing push-ups right now? >> I think he push up. I think he he doing uh spreads. I think he going out in that field. He hitting that one aggie please and his his his arms swelling up. He 19. He in his prime. >> We need to Yeah, we need to see how this [ __ ] look right now. >> I bet he ready. Them brothers ain't going to not let him be ready in there. It's It's 60 70% [ __ ] in You know that. >> Yeah. So >> if he rocking with the people from Dallas cuz that's who we know. I mean he from Dallas, right? He from Fris. >> Frisco, New Orleans. >> Oh, he rocking. He rocking with So everybody don't forgot about him. We don't give a damn about Nola. What you mean we don't? We care about Nolan. Nolan in Mississippi. >> [ __ ] only give [ __ ] only care about what's going on right now. Nolan Nolan's going on right now. >> Let a rapper die right now. >> They'll forget about Nolan. >> Damn. You kind of right. [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] cuz I remember I had something going and the Dolph died. It just killed everybody. My [ __ ] was going viral. >> I don't remember what it was but I just know mine was going viral and then Dolph died like [ __ ] die. That's just it's over. >> It shoot everything. >> It's over. So So man, you can't you can't you can't depend on [ __ ] I bet come sitting there saying what they saying about me now. [ __ ] ain't really saying too much about your ass. >> They care about the the next the next [ __ ] that done died. >> This [ __ ] wild. This [ __ ] is wild when you look at it how how this whole situation turned out this year in 2026. This has been a crazy year. >> And and and y'all throw right up in there. You on this list. He got everybody on it. Even they got Trap Boy Freddy in a suit. Uh uh >> that's some [ __ ] that's some [ __ ] goofy ain't going to say that. >> He's silly. >> Trap ain't I ain't going to say that. He He got married. >> Yeah. He just heard him try to get married. >> He got married. He found love. >> He's been with his girl for a long time. E >> no. He had been with her for a long time. >> About three weeks. >> No, you lying. You are lying. She He been with that girl for a long time. Don't worry about that. [clears throat] >> Well, maybe you a little jealous cuz he found his love of his life and he got married and he showed everybody how how love can take you as a man when somebody out here right having kids everywhere ain't a good thing. So, you know what I'm going to do? >> Hold on. No, because he cut his hair like and so you think he might go try to get married next. >> No, you're right. Listen. Listen. What I'm going to do is when we sitting there backstage ready to testify, we got we both testify. >> Y'all both testify. >> We both on the list. >> Y on the list. >> Yeah, we on the list. So when they got us all in the witness room, we all going to be in the witness room. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's like a backstage of a concert. You know what I'm saying? Y'all not going to be in the same room. In the green room. Yeah. I'mma ask them >> how it feel to be married, [ __ ] Before we go before we both go up and testify. >> You're not going to ask. I'm ask while while we out back here as witnesses, y'all, I want to congratulate my fellow man from across town. Congratulations on marriage >> on the wedding. Marriage is different from a wedding. >> A wedding. >> You and Tra used to be friends before. Yeah, we're cool. You from that side. You always say from the other side. No, you from over there. >> No, no, I'm 635. No, >> no, but that's where you from. >> I got rebirth. >> You from Oak Cliff. I eat big mama's [ __ ] You from Oak Cliff, >> man? I I go shopping. >> But you changed and went to North Galleria, [ __ ] Now I'm >> Where you graduate school at? >> City here. >> You cliff [ __ ] >> No, but still I I rebirth, [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] I [ __ ] I go I go everything. Sharks. >> [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] converted. Yeah, the the uh the Frisco. I go to the football field over there, man. I ain't Man, [ __ ] that side of town. It make me it make I'm not even going to my 20 20 reunion graduation. >> Were you surprised when you found out uh Mo 3 was on that side of town? >> No, we always been on this side. I brought him on that side of town years before. >> Yeah, but being that the way things was high high it was high. It was high intensity at that time. >> Yeah, I mean you can't man >> it didn't surprise you like what the hell you doing over there. >> Yeah, they ain't no you must you got to think you don't know three. People who just don't know three just don't know. When you know three, you you'll be like you'll be acting like the people that's around him. They're just they don't say too much. Like they're just him. >> They know. >> They know that the people that was around three, you don't see them talking bad about me. >> Did you think it was a bad thing or a good thing that Kiwan White get to go to trial first? >> That [ __ ] up everything that for them. >> How? >> Because you don't know what he going to say, how he going to play it, and what you going to find out. >> They don't have confidence in him. He wanted to go after Yella. Why did he want to go after? >> Because >> why did he want to go after? >> Because he could hear what's going to go on. He g evidence they got. Kiwan a don't even know Kiwan got lawyer don't even know what's going on. What kind of evidence they got or nothing. >> So when they come at him, he might flip. >> Yeah. Yeah. And >> he already came out and said that he she shot Booy. Really? I'm telling >> Yella got the best lawyer cuz Jerry lawyer Andrew Wigerson. No, I agree with him. So do you do >> how how does he have the best lawyer when that lawyer lost that other case >> compared to Carmelo Anthony everybody else lawyer uh the other got the best lawyer >> and you you feel like so Carmelo once he go up in this trial what do you think we going to hear from not Carmelo Kiwan what do you think we going to hear that we already hadn't been hearing him talk about he's done interview after interview after interview >> some goofy [ __ ] and he went in there and cut his hair like a shag He want to be a Dallas [ __ ] so bad. >> He got the Dallas shag going and he done gain weight. >> They going to lock him up like a Dallas [ __ ] >> He already locked up. >> Yeah. He ain't seen it yet. He >> They going to get more time. >> Yeah. Yeah. You got to see that. It's hot summers down there. He going to be He going to be down there. >> He going to do that state time. >> He going to be down there with Camela. >> Damn. >> Are you worried about this case at all for you? >> Why? >> No. Because you know you be having people in the comments and stuff talking about Yeah. Rain going to get in trouble. It's going to come out this, this, this. >> What do you think? >> I would have been locked up. >> You'd already been gone. >> Yeah, I'm worried about this album. This >> still going to be the Melvin Noble. >> Yeah, the life of me. >> When is it coming out? Cuz you keep saying it's coming, but it ain't coming. >> I actually text the detective when they said I got to they got to turn in the text messages. >> Why you take What you texting for? >> I text them. They said turn over our communication. I text them the date the album coming out >> and that is the date the album coming out. >> They going to read it on national TV and they going to post our text message. >> That's you stupid. >> They are this man. >> So what is the date that it's supposed to be coming out? >> The only person that know it in in this in in this world >> is him >> is Detective Bones. And I put the track list and who I going to be on there. >> It's going to come out the day when they they announce >> the the decisions from that case. No, cuz they go they go it might not cuz they you we don't know the date they go do that >> but detective born got the date and if he turn over >> but you be moving them dates all the time you can say a date >> but when he turn over that text message to the to the state >> and they read it >> and then the world going to know it going to be on national TV >> but will that's the bad will it actually come out >> yes I'm telling you this it's done >> listen it's done listen I got Listen I want y'all to hear this right here it's complete >> because you've been saying it's coming out for the longest time. It ain't coming. >> Hear this right quick so y'all can understand what I'm saying. And it's and and it's what you call it. We going to jump it off and say listen. So I went slam. >> It's coming. It's done. >> So it's everything's done and ready to go. >> It's done. You going to drop the whole album one time or you letting out singles first? >> I mean, it's dope. I'm done with one time. When they announce that they going to see that, they going to see our text message say, "Okay." And we see right here from Brandon R. It say, "Officer, I will be releasing more three albums on such and such day." Here's the track list and they go read everything. So, y'all want to play with me? >> Damn. [laughter] Damn, boy. >> Man, I don't know who the people think they playing with, man. >> You you you always trying to calculate something out. You always >> capitalizing on everything. [laughter] >> And you going and you going to show up to court and you going to testify and do whatever >> like I'm going to prom. >> You got to be there. >> I'm going like I'm going to prom. It's on. Let's rock. Yes, sir. I'm here. >> Damn. >> Yes, ma'am. I'm here. >> I will be doing it. I will be doing I will be hitting the >> They need to put a lie detector test um on him asking him questions. >> They trying to get them white boy Nolan Nolan do lie detector test. >> They need to cuz you be so slick with your answers. >> They going to want to know what >> people have to be wondering. Okay. Is he telling the truth or is he >> can he can can we trust what he's saying? >> Can we trust what he's telling? >> I'm saying the same thing for yours. Y'all forgot. I ain't stopped talking since it happened. >> No, you haven't. How's you >> all rehears? No, no, no, no. Whatever they lawyer ask me, I'm prepared for. You know why? >> I had went through Ratchet TV, Most Hated Blogger, Chris Go TV, So Cle, The Mirror, Duke Pharaoh, Queen 88, uh uh uh uh uh JB, uh uh Miss Lowdown. I have went through the baddest of the baddest of the baddest. Mahel Channel, Broadway Channel asking me questions every single night in 30 different ways. Man, I am so pure. This whatever y'all want to ask. Come on. >> Damn. You know, y'all going to be shocked. It all started with a female. >> And you never switched it up. >> Never. >> That's not shocking that it started with a female. Most of everything starts with a female. >> This is going to be shocking. Oh, you still friends with Booy? >> Yeah. >> And and and cuz Booy definitely he still play that M3. I seen it the other night. He just he played that hoe. Booya got booy on on this album >> on the new one. >> That's hard. >> What female did it start with on there? >> You know to keep it south. You going to get that whole south BG on that [ __ ] Yeah, I told you I had that BG that goddamn BG boy. >> Ron Eley. >> Run eyes on it though. [laughter] God dang. >> Who y'all think I am? >> Run eyes on that thing. [laughter] >> Who's the biggest surprise under >> Ron? Okay. I just got That's huge, boy. >> Yeah, I know, right? >> You belt the ass on him on this one, huh? >> Man, I ain't playing with these. >> He should put some Charlie Wilson on here, man. Charlie got sick now, man. >> He ain't [ __ ] with the run. He ain't [ __ ] with Mr. Bigs. >> Well, I ain't going to say that now, >> man. Charlie Wilson ain't [ __ ] with Mr. >> Man, I'm not going to argue with you about that. That is hard to deal with right there. That's them two legends. If they did No, they both legend. >> No. Hell no. lady versus [ __ ] run out of >> [ __ ] You don't understand. >> I don't understand what you saying. >> That run go. >> I'm telling you >> that [ __ ] said let me down easy if you ever was to leave me. That's a hard ass song [laughter] boy. >> I'm telling you we ain't even going to go to contagious and all that. >> That boy say go listen to that. We said let me down easy. That go hard you want to please. >> Man go vibe man. >> Listen Charlie ain't Charlie ain't [ __ ] with >> she love Charlie. >> You do. >> Hell yeah. Listen to that run bound way to your house today. When y when you hit that 635 love me some >> I want you I want you to listen to it. >> Let me ask you a question. It all started with a female. Which female it started with? >> It's going to be a shocker. >> Uhoh. >> You can't tell us. I won't put this part out later. Which female? Which female? >> No. It's a shocker. >> It's going to be somebody that y'all be like, "What the fuck?" >> Wow. >> I've been saving this for the trial and then we got 30 days of the trial. So now >> Are you nervous a little bit? >> Nervous. >> Be honest, man. >> Not this what I do. Why would I be nervous and another album's going to come out? >> So, okay, hold on, hold on. You can say this part when you said it started with a female because we all thought it started with um the comedian. But the female, does it have to do with after the comedian passed away or before? >> Before. >> So, it started with him and the female. >> No, before I started the jealousy and everything came and the tension came before >> the jealousy and then that that [ __ ] it went crazy after that. Man, it's it's a lot of things that I see. Do you you you still don't think New Dallas can come back? >> What about Big X? >> Done. >> Are you serious? >> [ __ ] Big X got do one drop. His [ __ ] going to go. >> They going to sell his label. He signed to >> United Masters. >> Mhm. >> It's up for sale. >> God, dog. >> How you know that? >> I don't know this [ __ ] Let me look that up. Is it? >> You know I know everything. I'm up there. I'm >> Is out there yet? They said going to sell it and the owner m ex and uh and uh >> the owner mated ex. >> Yeah, Steve Scott married you. >> What? >> You and X squashed y'all beef. >> We ain't never had no >> they ain't really a >> or y'all disagreement I should say. >> No, we just disagreement. People have disagreement all the time. I'm I'm still shaking the >> You want to see Dallas come together, man? >> Dallas is together. The hell that I mean let me tell you like this. I'm going just be real. You listen. Do you want to see it come together? >> Like this. Do you want to see it to come together? How far can we think we come when it's together? What what city was together and and went far? >> Atlanta. >> Atlanta was beefing with each other. What you talking about? A person. Mama got shot. >> Who? Mama Luchi. Mama got shot by Young Thug. Now them [ __ ] Atlanta would never been together. If it must be two sides dy and Gucci. Somebody got killed to that one. You never seen Atlanta ever together? We thought they was together, but I knew they weren't together when I was down there. What? So Atlanta was never together. What city had made it when they was together? >> Houston. >> Houston was beeping. Southside, the north and the south were beefing when they at when they was at their house. >> They damn sure did. >> What city? Come on. >> I'm trying. >> You can't think of it. >> Detroit, [ __ ] >> Detroit. Detroit been beefing with each other for since the since the the 50 boys. >> LA. LA show. >> LA were beefing. Baton Rouge, they got the number one rapper right there. They and they came from beef from Booy and all that from Young Boy. New New Orleans were beefing. You forgot Soldier Slim got shot in the face before they everything took off. Everybody got to be beefing in order to power it up. >> Beef. And I hate it. I hate it. Listen, >> you better >> beef bring out the best in artists. >> What it does? >> Did New York have New York? >> New York was beefing. >> Yeah, they >> New York was beefing. They always all of them was beefing with each other. They all every city that was on was beefing. >> That's why Florida can't can't get on like they supposed to be. They not beefing like that. Florida go by Florida go by counties. >> Mhm. >> So you can't really but but you but just just Jacksonville Jacksonville had the biggest the biggest beef that just came out two years ago before Fio died. Every city in hip hop only way they was getting on was they was beefing with each other and and and and and and that's the story of hip hop. That's that's that's how the [ __ ] have made it. That's that's how we learned that from Tupac. >> Damn. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Was they the first major beef? >> Tupac and Biggie. >> I mean, what you think? >> Who was Who was the first major beef in >> this man? I I came. You had said Kanye they Kanye just got a lawsuit on sexual assault. >> See, I'm telling y'all. >> He just like yesterday. >> Yeah, just yesterday he got a lawsuit on sexual assault. You ain't [ __ ] as a black man until you get a sexual assault charge. >> It's his former assistant. >> Yeah. >> I'm just saying >> that's how the government doing it. >> It popped up. I was like, "This [ __ ] just We just was talking about this, >> man. Man, listen. You don't remember me telling y'all about people get that kicked in and they came and they raided shit." That's what I've been I'm telling y'all. I'm Listen, I'm the prophet. I'm the prophet. Let me ask I got to ask you this, man. Uh you Blue, >> you didn't answer my question. >> What's that? >> Was Tupac and Biggie the first ever hip-hop beef? >> No. >> Who was the first hip-hop beef to be? >> There's been a lot of beefs. It just wasn't the killing. >> Who was the first? >> Was you talking about the killing part or the beef part? >> Well, the killing part is what made it work. >> The killing killing was it is big into >> as big artists that went at each other. We never we wouldn't have heard about the underground artist that was doing it. >> But I'm pretty sure some people that passed away early on from what [ __ ] said on songs. I I I would think. But this one was highly publicized. >> What I'm saying? >> But but but Pac didn't kid get killed by Big >> but but you know that. >> But that's but that's that's the perspective. Pac got killed. Listen listen listen. Pac got killed by some some [ __ ] in Cali that thought they going to get a million dollars for them [ __ ] in New York. >> You heard about that. Kea D in trial right now about this man. >> You think they going to Ke go to trial next month too? Everybody in trial next. Durk in trial. >> [ __ ] [ __ ] in trial [laughter] [ __ ] >> Don't forget about me. >> Durk in trial. Ke in trial. God dang. Mo 3's trial with yellow bey and one white. All of them. >> I don't know. This is ridiculous. And they all look like me. I'm tired of it. They shutting down the black. The [ __ ] >> Next month the [ __ ] is done. That's why I got a country orders. Shout out to Crystal. >> Oh god, this is bad. I I'm just thinking about how she >> black and and Christian ROCK is is is fighting for her life right now. >> Allegedly they saying her baby daddy is some stuff going on. He dead. A [ __ ] that they thought Yeah. Not Blueface. Another [ __ ] I know the dude that was claiming that baby. He came up. >> He came up dead and he had a bag on his head from what they saying. And they got her all in the mix of it. It's everywhere on the internet. >> Bag on his head. >> Yeah. They saying allegedly this is what's going on. >> But I just saw a video showing him and her back together. Him and Blue Face and H back together. They got they got discussing what they gang plan is >> because this bad. >> Yeah, this bad. Listen, [ __ ] don't [ __ ] done lost their mind. It's horrible. Big you sitting Big you got a case in the fence. [clears throat] Put money on somebody else and he witness it. This is horrible, man. Listen, I'm sick of it. Turn the damn internet off. Now, let me tell y'all this. A federal detective did say. He said, "I I got people on you. Just make sure your life ain't in danger in the next 30 days." >> He told you that? >> He got to keep a lookout for you. >> Yeah. Yeah, he did tell me that. >> That's crazy. >> So, somebody out there watching you right now? >> Uh, probably. So, most likely I ain't got nothing to hide, >> man. Danger. They're going to jump out the woodworks and protect you. Is that what he's mean? >> When they go outside and try, they probably, you know what I'm saying? They stopped YG right before the versus. Yeah. >> Everybody going through it. >> I'm telling y'all it's over. [ __ ] >> about to Draco the ruler. >> He did perform at the >> Yeah, but but [ __ ] they they took his phone from what I'm hearing allegedly. >> Them phones. Them iPhones. When they get your iPhone, >> man, put these phone. Listen, guy. Put these phones away. >> That's your Android. You got your Android. >> You got a flip phone. >> It's a million dollar phone. >> Yeah, you got a flip phone. >> How you get a flip phone, man? >> You still have the iPhone though, do don't you? >> Yeah. >> Okay. But you only use that one for something else. >> This a bad [ __ ] >> Is that a Razor? >> Yeah. >> Is Drake still the number one? >> You ain't seen you a seen one in a long time. >> No, I a seen. >> That one's the best phone, too. >> You would consider Drake still the number one artist right now? >> Yeah. Him and Young Boy. >> Him and Young Boy. >> Top of the line. >> On the mix. In the mix. >> In the mix. >> Yep. >> Wow. >> But at any rate, Rain, thank you for coming on the show, man. Uh I hope, man, listen. I I wish you I wanted to talk to you before you go under the gun because you're about to be in trial and you about to be facing some of the biggest things that people could say to you when they they subpoenaed you to be in court to speak on what happened that day. You was the last one to talk to Mo 3. Nobody else talked to Mo 3. A lot of people they don't agree. They don't think you telling us what happened in that conversation. >> Who said that? You said that. >> No, a lot of people. >> I was asked this morning. Shout out to OG Pyro. I said, "OGG, I'm going to interview Rainwater today. What do I need to ask him?" You know what he told me? >> What the hell was said on that phone when when Mo 3 pass he I don't Everybody asking that same question. >> Everybody feel like you leaving stuff out. >> I don't I done told everybody a thousand times. >> Everybody say don't make no sense. >> It don't make no sense. Life don't make no sense. I'm >> That's what he thought. He said ask him what he said to him on that damn phone. >> When he look Okay. When he looking for his tool and stuff like that and you said he He had never even just said to you, "Where my where my stuff at? Where my stuff at?" >> Why would he ask him though if he's saying he don't know where three knew? I didn't know. Why you think his home boys around? They never said he co ain't never said nothing about them damn. They know I don't be around that type of [ __ ] Nobody question well rain should have been. >> Then why he called you then and then called one of his home? >> I called him. >> So you called him >> and then number seven called then this person called. Then he he clicked back over and said, "Oh, they so and so just called." So it was a coincidentally that while he was going through this you called him. >> Yeah. This guy we talked for like five minutes before about 2 minutes >> but nobody was chasing him before. >> Nobody was chasing him. Yeah. >> So whenever you called him back that's when he tell you he going through this. >> We all we was talking on the phone like regular people >> once this started happening >> you know 2 minutes before. >> Two minutes before. So you started talking to him before this started happening. And then >> yeah he called me back. Oh he clicked over. He said Kea just called it I was the last people. It was like it was me number seven. Some more people got talk to her. >> So who was the last person I talked to before you? >> Huh? Oh before me kila. She on trial. Yeah. But you know who else on trial that y'all y'all ain't saying nothing about? >> The guy that got shot in the mix of this. >> Yeah. The guy that got shot. >> The guy that got shot in that 18. He is going to be there. He going to be telling details of what he's seeing. They going to go through all of that. >> Gas station people. >> Gas station. >> See something. He don't know who these people are. >> What are you talking about? He don't know who these people are. They already found who these people are. And why would Mo 3 know who these people is? He don't know who the people is cuz they got mask on >> cuz he know where he was and who what he was doing. >> He didn't. He saying you don't know who got mask on or not. You don't know what they are. What they who they are. So you got to understand that you he ain't going to sit there and say what he going to say if a [ __ ] running with a mask and a gun. >> That young lady say you the one that house he was over. She went off on you. Now that I think about it, she just been talking. >> She been going down through there on you. She said you were that you what you said when you called her well he wasn't look what he wearing and why is he wearing these clothes what did you say to her and why was you so why why conversate what was you asking her about anyway >> she called me >> about what I don't know she called me and then and and this what she called me I don't know what she calling for but she she called me then the whole conversation she said I said what do you have on and she was like so and so so and so and I knew he had that on the night before so I Yeah. He stayed over there 24. He stayed over there 24 hours, right? I'm just trying to get a timeline. What's going on? >> Oh, so you picking? >> I'm picking. Then she was like I was like >> something. And then she was like, "No." I was like, "Nah, he too cheap for that shit." >> That's what she got. She said that was not the right thing to say. >> She too cheap. Talking about most three gave somebody some money. He ain't too damn cheap for that. He a give no damn about no money or pay nobody rent or something. Whatever. Something she said. I'm like, he too cheap for that. >> So you don't think she was telling you the truth? I don't I don't know what it is, but I'm just break I'm thinking out loud. You know what I'm saying? At the time, thinking out loud. You know, I'm not bite my tongue. >> Whatever Whatever come out my mouth, that's how I mean. Yeah. I mean that [ __ ] out bottom of my heart. So, she's just telling me this. Okay, >> man. That [ __ ] embarrassing. >> That's what you said. And she said that. >> She said what? What's embarrassing? Man, my [ __ ] stretched out on the middle of the street like that and everybody posting my [ __ ] laughing at him. He done left your your house. A ratchet ass [ __ ] >> What? He mad. Ryan, have you ever shed tears behind this? Let's be real. >> Yeah, I cried the whole funeral. Nobody ever said I didn't. It was close. What the hell? I didn't think you grieved at all. >> Yeah. >> He told you he was depressed and everything. >> I know you're depressed when he But he kept doing interviews. >> Yeah. You know, you got to understand you got kids to you got to keep going. >> Depend on. >> You had to keep going. >> The [ __ ] You like look like I had to keep going. Yeah. You got kids. You had to push through. >> Man, listen. When I first met Mo 3, I got a phone call and sitting there right next to him that my grandma died. >> Damn. >> When I first met him, you know what we did? >> What? >> We kept on recording cuz you would have wanted that. >> So you kept going cuz you kept going as AOFK. I'm in the studio and I said, "All right, I got to go. My grand my grandpa just died." >> You got to keep on going. >> Is he was Mria like a compassionate person? Like when you right there and he was right there and you hear that your grandma died. >> Did he like try to, you know, >> console? >> Console you or do anything? What did he say to you? >> I was nothing. [ __ ] record. >> That's all he said. >> No, I'm saying >> he the one pushing >> I was pushing him. [ __ ] we got to get the greatness. She would have wanted this. >> Record. >> So you harness that and turn it into >> Yeah. the music. >> Ask Ke to be keeping when they was through that. I got girl. Yeah. My grandfather just died. >> Damn. >> You know what I'm saying? >> But were you close with them? Yeah. Hell yeah. We're close with him. >> Yeah. >> I remember you talking about it. That's my mom and daddy. And so, yeah. So, at the end of the day, like, you know, uh, you know, throughout this whole situation, I had people pass away. >> But then when Mo three passed away, you didn't say that same thing to yourself. Let me keep doing this. >> You you you blocked out everything for a minute first cuz you went through a depression. >> No, I did not. But after the after the funeral, I was doing interviews >> right after. The first day, the day after the funeral, on the way home, I called Big D and said, "Meet me at my house." >> Say that again. >> The day after, the day after three died, I called Big Big E. Big D on the way home and said, >> "Um, uh, Mim, my hair." Yeah. Yeah. You've been through a lot, bro. How do you keep going, bro? >> You've been through it, man. You ever just sit back and think about Do you ride? What do you do? Where you get this from tribe like that >> to try to >> the grace all the grace of all the great people that went through the same thing I'm going to >> so that's what you look at and draw you your strength from >> you forgot P D P D was an innocent man that threw a party and a whole bunch of people at that that college died then you got to deal with people died his mama died >> daddy died >> daddy died then you got to do biggie died and they can't and and people want to see him do bad this whole time. Once he get out, it'll be great. >> Wow. When you when when when you think about your legacy, what do you want people to know you from? When when people think about Benjamin Rainwater, if that's even your name, [laughter] when you when they look and think back on you years from now after all is said and done, >> I want I want >> What do you want people to remember you for? >> I want the legends ever came through Dallas. >> You want to be That's what you want to be. >> I control three decades. dancing era. >> Yeah. >> Mo three era and that whole big and that whole big X and Big X in this new Dallas in this last era. >> How do you control that era? >> I got the biggest deal out of there with OC Chris. I I after all this situation I I I I got a a Mexican while all the black people was showing money and doing all this and and I got a Mexican and changed his life around from Oak Cliff after all this [ __ ] that done happened and the podcast world and this whole era. This whole era is ran by podcast. >> Yeah. >> With the podcast and the Charles whites and all them the great that came out this whole era. I'm right in the middle of it. I'm still in the mix of this whole Dallas, Texas. Right or wrong. >> Wow. You you definitely in the mix though. You damn sure in the mix though. >> You know what I'm saying? So you can't forget about me when you say that to Texas. So you know uh that's why you can't just take me away. People in the comments they be so mad man this baby. He only do this cuz rain one of them people that know like rain been doing this for a long time. [laughter] You know what I'm saying? Like do you know Dro don't want to try to go around me this and that this and that. That song came out. >> Man I sure want to see y'all get it together man. >> [ __ ] the >> man. I'm not putting that out. You're you ain't crazy. here. I want you to know, man, that I I I'm going to be watching this trial. Is the the cameras invited in? You think I ought to come put set up? >> Yeah. Come on. >> You think I ought to set up down there? >> Come on. Give me the glasses. >> You want the glasses? I got them. >> You the first [ __ ] that ever had them glasses. >> YEAH. YOU REMEMBER THAT? SHOW THAT. >> I AIN'T [laughter] NEVER seen no [ __ ] You the first [ __ ] >> Yeah, I got them from the Facebook guy. The white guy. Remember? >> Yeah. From the white guy. Yeah. [laughter] Give me the glasses. I'm walking in there and um anybody that got special clothes and [ __ ] they want to see me in. Well, you got if you if you a good tailor do suits just go give me give me a suit I'm shouting you out. Um I had plans this man. >> I had plans to walk in the courtroom with little Dunny and uh I tame him. I got I got a new surprise getting out the court with me. >> Oh, you going to come in? >> I'm coming in. >> You going to have the cameras out? >> I'm coming in. >> You going to do a video, >> man? I'm I'm I'm [ __ ] man. Man, showtime. >> Wow. This what y'all been waiting on. >> Wow. Rain, I want to tell you, man. Appreciate you for coming on the show, man. How can people get a hold of you? They hit a boss talk. Y ain't [ __ ] change, >> man. My boy Rain pulled up, showed out, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a bosses talk. >> And we out. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. Lit. It's a unique hustle, [ __ ]