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Andrew Schulz predicts a significant conflict between Elon Musk and Donald Trump within the next three years, driven primarily by clashing egos rather than policy differences. He argues that both men possess immense power and self-centered beliefs, creating a dangerous dynamic where neither is willing to back down. Schulz suggests that while some observers believe Trump intends to imprison Musk due to his Democratic leanings or bias toward Charlemagne Palestine, the core issue lies in their mutual inability to tolerate being upstaged. This potential blowup stems from two individuals who view themselves as the center of attention and refuse to show vulnerability to one another. The conversation delves into the psychological profiles of both figures, with Schulz noting that Trump's emotional intelligence is comparable to JD Vance's—capable of strategic forgiveness when it serves a political purpose but lacking genuine empathy for those he deems inferior. In contrast, Elon Musk is described as having risen from poverty and a broken family background to attend Yale and eventually serve in the White House under an opponent he once called a tyrant. Schulz questions whether Musk possesses the necessary EQ to navigate such complex social hierarchies without causing friction, suggesting that his journey required navigating extreme shifts in status which demands high emotional adaptability often missing in those who cannot "tiptoe around" powerful figures like Trump. Schulz outlines specific limitations on Elon's political trajectory within the current American system. He posits that Musk has reached a ceiling where he can no longer ascend further without becoming President, a position legally barred to him as a non-citizen. Schulz references a *Game of Thrones* analogy involving Cersei Lannister and Littlefinger to illustrate how absolute power attracts lethal threats; similarly, Trump holds the ultimate authority in Washington that Musk cannot match or surpass. Consequently, if an impasse occurs between them, Musk's only options are limited: he could attempt to run for office against Trump (which is legally impossible), jump parties after alienating Democrats by attacking the left, or remain loyal to a toxic Republican base with no alternative exit strategy available. The discussion concludes that Elon Musk likely understands his precarious position and fears ruining his unique access to power more than anything else. Schulz observes that many wealthy individuals eventually resent having to "kiss the ring" of politicians who control their ability to build factories or operate businesses, yet he believes Musk recognizes this is the peak of influence available in America today. Because Trump has effectively cut off all other political avenues for Musk by associating him with a polarizing administration and alienating potential allies on both sides, Schulz argues that Musk must maintain loyalty despite the unspeakable nature of his current associates. Ultimately, while there are concerns about future rule changes allowing non-citizens to run for office, Trump is unlikely to alter such security blankets, leaving their volatile relationship as a high-stakes gamble between two powerful egos.
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you know what else I think if I was to
just Chuck a little bet on for something
that's very very reliably going to
happen over the next three years before
the end of this Administration the
mother of all blowups between Elon and
Trump so how do you see that happening
I've heard a lot of people Charlemagne
talks about this all the time Trump
thinks that that uh sorry charlon thinks
Trump is going to put him in
prison okay that's a take that I hadn't
heard before but yeah but uh what do you
now you know charlan is is very Democrat
like obviously he's going to have some
bias that goes into this but but what do
what is your take and how do you see
that relationship going I just think
that when you've got two people with so
much power and ego and I do from what I
can tell uh elon's ego and that uh sort
of self focused self-belief like it's me
it's me and like I'm going to be the
center of all of this uh seems to be
ramping up that is probably a pretty
dangerous cocktail based on like some
stories and stuff that I've heard about
behind the scenes from from Trump about
some levels of vulnerability and then
sort of like flimsy uh senses of um he
doesn't like to be shown up doesn't like
to be sort of upstaged and uh and I
don't know if I don't know if Elon has
the emotional intelligence of JD Vance
to be able to tiptoe around and yes sir
no sir three bikes F sir JD and why I
say do not treat that man lightly I
think he has like he came from like
poverty I think his mom was like a drug
addict like and then he ends up going to
Yale and then he becomes the VP of a guy
that he campaigned against and said was
horrible and like a
tyrant do you know the level of
emotional intelligence it takes to go
from like a broke Middle America broken
family to an IV League institution to
then VP for the guy who does not he
doesn't always keep an like you can say
things about Trump but if if it's advant
for whatever his plan is he will forgive
you you know he's kind of like Vince man
in that regard like whatever works for
the thing but like that takes High EQ
even in that moment with zalinski he's
managing
Trump like he's he did have a moment for
himself but everything he said was and
you show respect to Trump and Donald
Trump's office and what so he knows the
game he's playing oh that what I'm
saying is don't treat him lightly what
our Coastal Elites we always do is when
someone has a kind of southern accent
think they're idiots and we and we don't
we don't even really pay attention to
them and that man is someone I see a
problem with JD before I see Elon but
what do you think's gonna happen with
Elon long term with Trump nothing you
think that he's going to dance through
the Minefield I I don't think I think
he's acutely aware of his limitations in
America he cannot physically be
president if he could be president I
think there is a concern because
eventually he'll go when they have an
impass he'll just go well I'll just run
against you he cannot the the laws
dictate he cannot so inevitably you're
going to have to bow down at some point
this is the highest you're as high as
you can go El that's only that's only
based on the fact that you can put your
the outcomes that you want for your
project behind your ego yes and I'm not
sure which one is going to be the bigger
priority the the only other thing he
could do is let the
Democrats which have already made him
radioactive like no Democrat can side
with Elon so Elon is as far as he can go
in America he can't go any further like
this is outside of being president like
there's that great line in Game of
Thrones where like Cersei is talking to
Littlefinger and a little finger is like
you know you know little finger the
character and Little Finger goes uh you
know what I've learned over the years is
that uh you know knowledge is power and
there's all these guards around her and
them and and she goes um guards slit his
throat and they all walk up and put a
knife to his throat and then she goes
guards Stand Down guards take two steps
back guards take six steps back and then
she goes power is power and it's just so
fire and it's like Trump has power poers
power that is the closest Elon can get
to power and I don't think there's
another pres that will allow Elon to
have that access to power so Elon either
has to Hope there's another person that
he could ride with and establish a
relationship and and maybe that's JD but
he have to wait till the next
Administration anyway so what he can't
do is sour all the Republicans on him
like I I I cannot see the situation
where they get into trouble because
there's nowhere else for him to go he
either have to jump parties which is
very difficult after chastising the left
all the time like he's kind of made his
bed and he's high he has access to all
these things and I think it does benefit
him the most if America is successful
because all his businesses are tied up
in America he could jump ship to another
country but that's not the thing I worry
about because I think he's smart enough
to understand the position he's in
eventually you hit the this is what
happens with all rich people to the that
that actually want to move weight around
you hit the impass of government and you
have people who are way less successful
than you way poor than you telling whe
you whether you can or can't build a
factory or do whatever you want to do
and in that moment they go [ __ ] I just
worked my ass off I got [ __ ] yachts
and everything and now I got to go kiss
this guy's dick like you saw them all
lined up behind Trump during the
inauguration Zuckerberg Bas everybody
went to kiss the ring and he set him up
letting everybody else know they're
kissing the ring and I think Elon goes I
got the best seat it don't get better
than this and this guy trusts me and
Believes In Me I can't [ __ ] this up and
he's dealt with Governors Mayors and all
this other [ __ ] that he doesn't respect
at all so he's like it's not going to
get better than this I if if I I don't
think he can ruin it is if they change
the rule to let non-citizens become
president now we have an issue but Trump
would never change that rule because
it's a security blanket right there it's
it's actually kind of like brilliantly
done by Trump it's ride with me against
the left now he Elon can't go to the
left so he has to be loyal to you it's
he's it's like he's zalinsky well
everybody that's everybody that's
associated with Trump is so unspeakable
and toxic that they're never going to be
allowed back so now you got the Loyalty
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