Why You Must Know How To Handle A False Teacher

So he goes over to Ezekiel's channel. That video has almost a million views. The same ridiculous things that he was saying to me. He said on his video, I wouldn't watch the video. The same ridiculous things. And I And I'm giving this man opportunity to talk. Let's Okay. Okay. Okay. I hear what you're saying. Something's off. Something's off. You know why I know You know why I believe something was off? Because I read the Bible. [music] If you say something that is wrong, you are going to get a push back. And I'm going to push back in a cordial fashion. You all probably don't remember this. You probably don't remember this. When I first got out of the hospital, I did a Q&A and there was a gentleman named Joshua who loved the supernatural who came on. Does anyone remember that? So, I'm going to actually make this video its own video, but let me show you some clips and let me just show you Ezekiel and other people who have these people on. So, I'm not against you for having these people on. I'm against you when you have them on and you give no push back. >> And I also heard a testimony from an ex witch that mentioned that uh those demons, they can see when you're born. Some people who have big ministries, who have a special calling, they have a light over themselves. And those demons can see that as soon as you're born and they will start sometimes even from the moment that you come into the world to try to take you out, to destroy you. So absolutely what you said is 100% truth. And so I began to do I began to change everything. Uh and this preacher came to my church and uh when he prayed for me, I also felt more deliverance, more uh of that process being uh manifested. And um and like I said, I was very excited when I got these results. And uh something happened though. Remember how I mentioned that when I was watching those fasting testimonies, some people received dreams and visions? >> Well, that began to happen with me, too. And I never dreamed before, maybe once a year. So when I started to get these dreams, these spiritual dreams, I began to remember those testimonies. I thought, "Okay, maybe these are coming from the Lord." And I began to research the topic and listen to ex Satanist, ex- witches who were experienced in that realm of dreams and interpretation and tried to gather as much information so I could figure out what was happening because >> it was a lot of dreams. >> It was like sometimes five dreams a night and then 10 dreams a night and then sometimes 15 dreams a night. all spiritually based about the rapture, about the tribulation, about some of the demonic spirits are going to be unleashed to torment humanity, about the battle of Armageddon. I was able to see that. I saw how the beast um was thrown into the into the lake of fire and I saw heaven. God also showed me heaven. Um he showed me some of the jobs that we'll have in heaven. He showed me one of the jobs that I'll have in heaven. He showed me a dream about the antichrist. And uh I want to share this real quick if we have time because I really do think it's important especially. >> So he goes over to Ezekiel's channel. That video has almost a million views. The same ridiculous things that he was saying to me. He said on his video I wouldn't watch the video. The same ridiculous things. And I I'm giving this man opportunity to talk. Let's Okay. Okay. Okay. I hear what you're saying. Something's off. Something's off. You know why I know You know why I believe something was off? Because I read the Bible. All right. There we go. Josh, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah, can you hear me? I can hear you wonderfully. Wonderful. Let me just draw my lights. No, thank you so much for this honor. Uh I me and my channel have been praying and fasting for your healing ever since we found out that you had those medical issues and I'm so so glad, brother, that you're feeling much better. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. >> Yeah. And so, no, a few days ago, I just I caught your live stream and I thought >> maybe I could, you know, one day share my testimony on this brother's channel since I was interviewed a few weeks ago on another channel and and it was received pretty well and I thought, let me let me try to reach out to brother uh Corey. So, let me ask you this, man. I don't have a problem with it. Is it can you can you is it how long is it? Can you make it concise and quick or not say quick but concise and not too long? Well, I probably need like 15 or 20 minutes. I don't know if maybe on Fridays you do testimonies instead. No, I would. Can you make it to you? Yeah, I probably could. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, no. I just want to share everybody uh what the Lord has done in my life. Um, basically when I was young, I went to a church where basically my mother uh she grew up here in Mexico and she grew up practicing witchcraft. uh she had the power of telekinesis and healing and she made all these demonic packs with the enemy to be able to attain these certain supernatural abilities. But later on when she had me, she gave all that up because she was afraid that the demons might, you know, ask for my life. And so she left that world. She started going to a Christian church and she brought me to the USA with her. There she reconnected with my father. They got married. But unfortunately, a man showed up there who who took advantage of me. We'll just say like that. And my friends from the church. And my mother, like I said, she was a witch. So she had kind of instilled in me some stuff about spiritual warfare and told me that basically you know there were demonic spirits that had gotten attached to me that had influence changed my attractions because before everything was fine. Uh but once that happened everything changed and uh fortunately uh later on you know the man was exposed uh by one of the other victims. But unfortunately our pastor actually protected him. He warned him right before the police were about to arrest him. And this gave him enough chance to buy an airplane ticket and flee the country. So he moved to Puerto Rico where he came from and I heard over there that he did the same thing with other victims, but this time the parents found out in Puerto Rico and they eliminated him. They took action to their own hands. As far as the pastor, he later on got very sick and he committed adultery. He left the church. He started a new church and got very very sick and passed away. But it was just a very difficult situation because there were other people from the church that found out that he had these attractions towards the younger men from our church and they would see him hanging out with us only with us, not really with any other adults and taking us out to eat and he would bring us to the beach. He would he was a very good manipulator. He was a master manipulator and was able to get the trust of not just us but also our parents. And but anyways, later God took me out of that church, brought me to a new place and I went to more modern churches where they were not as strict because I grew up in a very strict strict strict Christian Spanish Pentecostal church. So I went to these modern churches because I wanted a break. I wanted to see what it was like and things did not go very well. I became more spiritually empty and my best friend who sat next to me at church ended up scamming me out of my entire life savings. But God actually used that. God actually used that to get me out of those churches and help me to go back to my mom's church. That's where I found deliverance. And that's where my mom taught me about the power of prayer and fasting. And she told me the testimony of this one preacher who actually was dealing with the same things as me and how he went into a 7-day water fast and God delivered him. And now he used he's being used by God powerfully. So that gave me hope, you know, and that's why I'm here also to share my testimony to see if it'll give the brothers and sisters listening hope. And so I began to pray and fast and I was delivered after 8 days. On the eighth day, I vomited out those demonic spirits and I felt like God had given me a brain, a brand new brain, like a brain transplant. And uh I tried to think of men the same way, but I couldn't. I just saw them as brothers now. And I was so happy, so overjoyed. But I forgot about some of those teachings that I learned from those people that I watched during those eight days of fasting. I watched a lot of YouTubers, ex- witches, ex Satanist who taught about that demons can enter us through our eyes and our ears if we open those portals. And I opened those portals. I ignored their advice. And those demons came back and I fell into adult videos into that sin. And at that point, I was very depressed. And I began to change my petitions because now I found out that there is power in prayer and fasting. So I decided to ask God for just one petition for him to take me out of this world through a car accident, through a heart attack. I didn't want to be alive anymore. And um so I did that. I even got a $300,000 life insurance policy so my mom would get the money and she could use it to help other people so that something good would come out of my life for once cuz I didn't feel like my life had been worth anything. But the Lord ended up restoring me again, delivering me again. And then he spoke to me and told me that he wanted to use me to help other people all over the world who were dealing with the same issues as myself, not just with attractions, but also addictions to these certain xxx videos and depression. I'd always dealt with depression. And so I began I wrote a book and I began to seek him and I kept on praying every single day. But I changed my petition. I said, "Okay, I don't want to leave this world anymore. So let's just erase that petition, Lord, and I want you to use me to reach millions of people and to share what you have done and to tell them that prayer and fasting does work." Even Jesus said, you know, his disciples, these demons don't come out with unless with prayer and fasting. There are certain spirits that are more stronger, more powerful, more stubborn, and you need more authority to be able to cast them out. And that's only obtained through prayer and fasting. As my mother also told me, and seeing as how she was a witch, and she made all these demonic packs with demons and even faced Satan himself, I knew I could take her advice at heart. And so, I wrote a book about the experience because a lot of supernatural things began to happen. A lot. Uh God began to speak to me through dreams and visions and showed me the future. Showed me dreams about heaven, about the antichrist, about the rapture, about different demons that people had near me in my church, my friends, co-workers. So many things, so many supernatural encounters. And demons actually went to my bedroom and would try to choke me out when I first began to pray and fast. The same thing happened to a friend of mine. Whenever sometimes things can happen when you start to seek the Lord more, those demons will start attacking you physically. And um so anyway, so then I wrote a book about the experience, about all those teachings. And it's free on my website, authorosegoutier.com. And I also sent people the free PDF file if they email me. I'm happy. I'm not about for the money. And uh I opened up a YouTube channel. I moved to Mexico in December of 2023. I quit my job. Everybody thought it was crazy, but I thought, "No, I want to go into the ministry." And so I had enough savings where I can move to Mexico for a year and open a YouTube channel. By God's grace, you know, he backed me up and I started interviewing people. Some of those videos went viral with over a million views. And uh and God has brought over 100,000 subscribers. And I just recently did a video um an interview on We Need to Talk. And by God's grace, that went viral as well. And now an extra 10,000 people have joined the prayer and fasting chain that I'm organizing. And basically every day I'm praying and fasting for all the petitions that people sent to me. I just eat one meal uh at night. And I'll be doing this every day for 2026 and 2027. And so if there's anybody who has any prayer requests, write them down in this chat or in the comment section. And let me ask a question. So let let me ask you a question. And I'm grateful for uh any sort of deliverance um that has occurred. There are some things that you said though um that are more on the line of experience and even expectations uh than biblical. And so it's possible because guess what? There are people who have testimonies um that range that that that that go throughout the entire gamut of different sort of explanations and feelings and experiences and so forth. There are those who will who will have a testimony regarding um uh some sort of deliverance or some sort of action that happened that doesn't comport with scriptures but it's it's based upon what they have had experiences with um outside. So like when Paul says in 1 Corinthians 12, he says that uh you know how when you were pagans uh led away by mute idols and Paul is is admonishing them because what they're doing is they were bringing in their outside religious experience or outside experiences and using that to interpret uh something spiritual or something biblical. So we don't have any example in the Bible. As a matter of fact, the Bible's clear that if a person has has the Holy Spirit in them, they cannot be they cannot be touched by a demon. As a matter of fact, John literally says that they they cannot be touched. They cannot inhabit. they cannot live. They cannot dwell. Uh do we believe in demons? Sure. We don't believe in demons in Christians. And so I would say that the testimony in order for a testimony to be a true genuine testimony, no matter how heartfelt it is, no matter how much a person feels they experienced it, if it does not line up with scriptures, it's not a testimony. It's not it's not it's not biblical. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. I know that some people feel that way, but uh in my past experience and also I'll share one experience with a friend of mine from church. Well, wait a minute wait. Did you just say though? You said in my past experience, right? A friend of mine got possessed in my church and she was a faithful Christian. And how do you know? >> Because she tried to choke our youth pastor. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. How do you know she was a faithful Christian? >> You don't Well, she went with us every church service and went to our night watches and prayed with us and fed with meaning because she went to church faithfully, gave her tithes and offering and did this and sang and danced that that made her a Christian. So, this is what I said. If you take the experiences, no matter how real they felt because Paul, as he's admonishing them in 1 Corinthians 14, he says, "You do have a zeal." As a matter of fact, he even said that to about the Jews. You have a zeal, but not according knowledge. So, if what you're saying doesn't line up with scripture, can it be true? I believe that this is I this is a topic that has been a controversy with the church that demons cannot have demons, that Christians can have demons. But I have seen this for myself. I've experienced. >> Have you seen it in the scripture though? >> In the scriptures? Mhm. There were people who have demons. Yeah. >> Were there any Was there anyone in the Bible who had the spirit in them and also had a demon? >> I don't know if they had the I would have to go in my book. I did mention there are certain people in the Bible that were demonized. But were there was there anybody in the Bible who had the spirit in them who had a demon? >> The answer is no. Not one. >> And but like I said, see, it has to be and and again, I'm not I'm not trying to nullify your your testimony. I promise you I'm not. But what I want people to do is to not look at the Bible through the lens of their experiences. Look at your experiences through the lens of the Bible. You can be fooled. There's no if ends but buts about it. The your head, your brain can conjure up all sorts of thoughts. You can sit and watch Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, uh Little House on the Prairie, uh Andy Griffith, and the next thing you know, you got these wild crazy dreams where Barney Fe is riding on a dragon burning up zombies. And because you are so in tune with trying to hear from the Lord and you have been so inundated with the with teachings and hearing about the demonic that must be the Lord sharing or a demon is talking to me or I've got these monitoring spirits or anguish and suck things that the Bible doesn't speak about. So they're unbiblical but because what I've been taught is what I import into my belief and I interpret everything from that lens versus the scripture. So the Bible is clear that as a matter of fact, let me put on the screen. I want you to read this. I want to throw on the screen uh first John verse uh five and we're going to see that the Bible says that you cannot be touched by the evil one. He says I think it's verse 18. We know that no one look at the look at the screen. We know that no one who is born of God let's just pause right there for a second. Born of God means they're a believer. They have the Holy Spirit in them. Right? Would you agree? Yes. Okay. So he says that we know that no one nobody who has been born of God that person that person does not sin not living in sin but he who was born of God again saying Christians whoever the believer is he says God keeps him and look what it says this is the part I'm going to highlight this I want you to see that can you see what that says yes the evil one does not touch them so I can't come back and say the evil one does touch him he just told us the evil one does not touch us but I don't think demons have the ability the power to influence our thoughts because I do and I've experienced that before and other people have as I've talked to so many other, you know, people in deliverance ministries and demons do have the power to influence our thoughts and our behavior. Who told you that? What scripture? I have lived through it, brother. I'm not care. Listen, listen, listen. What you what you experience, if you interpret that as this doesn't mean it's so what scripture tells you that demons can influence our thoughts. There is not a scripture further that then why would you Okay, so now let me put a text up. Paul says, I do not want you to exceed what is written. Do not exceed what is written. Don't start taking texts that aren't there and put it putting it in there. How about what he says in 1 John chapter 4? He says, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit," which seems like what you're doing. You're believing every spirit, but test to see whether the spirit test to see whether they come from God. Many false prophets have gone through. Now, let's drop down a little bit and I want you to let's look at this text. He says, "For you are from God." Now, you would agree that you are from God would be the person who is saved, right? We are of God. Look what he says. You are from God, little children, and have overcome the world. That would include demons, right? Then he goes on and says this powerful passage here. Greater is he who is in you. Let's pause. Who's the he in your opinion that's in you? Who would you say that is? >> The Holy Spirit. So greater is he the Holy Spirit that's in you or God. Same one than than he who is in the world, which would be the enemy. Now, according to this text, where is the enemy? In the world, outside of you, not inside of you. Those are the truths that you need to rely on. Now, and I've dealt with the demonic. I've dealt with folks who had demons. I've dealt with the worst kinds of demons. Trust me, do what were they Christian or non-believers? They were non-believers. There cannot be a demon that's that's a that's a Christian. That cannot there be can there be a Christian who is being demonically influenced or oppressed by demons. There can be a Christian who's being attacked by demons. That that goes without question. But they can't be on the inside. They have no control over you. >> They just do not. What happens is if I think they do, then I'll act like they do. It's like this. If a man, let's say a woman and a man, they're married and she thinks he's cheating. She just, she's made up her mind that he's cheating, what is she going to see in all of his actions? Behaviors of a cheater. Yeah, he went to the store and took five extra minutes. Why has he gone so long? She saw a number on his cell phone that she remember that she didn't know who called him and who's he calling the make. Listen, the mind is an easy thing to change. I won't do it this time, but I've done this before where we're sit and we're telling people we'll just give something kind of in rhyme. Hop lop blop and I'll say repeat ite blop. They'll say hop blah blah. Knock pot rock. They'll say knock top rock. And then I'll say what do you do with a green light? They'll say stop. No you don't. Because the mind is easy to control. You go to McDonald's, you go to Burger King, you go to this place cuz because someone has inundated your mind with I think that'd be good. I think that would be good. But that's not so. If you want something to be, you can make it be. You can you can do it. Uh we've had thoughts. We've had desires that have betrayed us. I I love this person. I want to move there. I want this job. I'd like this car. And we've been wrong. The mind is wrong. That's why we don't That's why the Bible says not to exceed what is written. That's why when you look at the text in every single deliverance ministry, they do not like what I teach because they can't refute it. I It's not me, it's the Bible. They have built an empire on teaching people that you can be demonized. Why? Because if you can be demonized, you know what you can do? You can come to one of us to have the demon cast out. You can buy our book. You can come to our conference. Where in the Bible did did did we see Jesus, Peter, Paul, James, John, whomever casting demons out of Christians? Matter of fact, by the way, we never see any one time them casting demons in a mass deliverance section session, but we've never seen them do so with a believer. So, you've got to adopt the scripture. So when I've dealt with the people, when I say people who are who who do have demons, when I say some some demonic people that you will never want to meet, including the person who may have done what they did to you, I've seen worse. Been around worse because I was locked up in in the worst prison, the worst federal prison in America. I've been around the worst of the worst. You talk about someone that has um two children chained up in their basement and seeking and putting together these devices, transport them across uh uh across state lines. Oh, I've seen it. I've seen people who will just because I'll just throw some hot boiling grease on someone just to see what happens. I've seen someone who is in the TV room, this one I always talk about about the person who's literally pulling his skin and his eyebrows out and his hair out in front and he's got the entire uh TV room freaked out. And you know what comes as a result of what we did? True deliverance and the person is full of the spirit and not ever having to worry about a demon. Stay away from deliverance ministries. Stay away from deliverance ministers. Stick to people who preach the gospel. You know why? Because in the Bible, the very word for sotyion is deliverance. Jesus says, "I've come to set the captives free." Jesus says in John 8, do you know what John 8:36 says? >> Breaking up with your testimony. You should know this. You have to know this. Jesus says, "For whom the son sets free is what?" Free indeed. Free indeed. The word is antos. Thoroughly free. It's like we say for real. For real. Really, really free. Definitely free. in the in the old south show for real they are free you cannot be a believer in Christ full of the Holy Spirit a regenerated heart and then also be inundated and attacked by demons one we don't have an example and we have scriptures to refute that so I'm going to challenge you to do this I'm going to challenge you to do this that is if you're serious about the word of God and you're serious about your testimony I would I would ask you to go back and pray and then to read your testimony is not a testimony if it doesn't line up with Christ or with the scriptures it's just not it's you and your opinion. It might as well be a fancful story or or a uh fantasy book. If it lines up with scripture, amen. If your if any part of your testimony is not biblical, by definition, it's unbiblical and it should not be received by the masses. And I'm not trying to be mean or or or harsh or heartless. I I really am not. And I can promise you there are people who will promote that. Paul says uh the time will come when people will not deal will not endure sound doctrine. But they will have they will find for themselves people to tell them what they want to hear. You mean my problems are demon? You mean to tell me my problems are a generational curse. Both those things are are unbiblical for a Christian. All of those things they're not found in the text. So when you do that, and I understand it's it I felt that. I experienced that. Your experiences never matter compared to the word of God. Just like your truth doesn't matter. Just like what you felt, none of those things matter. And I don't I don't want toh break your break your confidence like that. Whatever. I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm not trying to be mean. But we've got to be biblical more than anything else. And so I've got to give you the truth of the scriptures. Amen. I appreciate your honesty and um I've seen the way you've dealt with other Christian YouTubers and there's been disagreements and I like the way that in spite of disagreements you've managed to be respectful and you know you said with Ebenego you still keep in contact with them and I appreciate that and I appreciate what you said. Um but like I said I I stand by what I went through. I stand by that. I do feel that I went through a deliverance process that there were demonic spirits inside me and I've listened to other deliverance deliverance ministers who have come to my church and listen to all the experiences I've had and I still understand that we can open up doors sometimes through sins that can open up portals for these demonic spirits to get attached to able to influence. >> See, when you when you say we can open up portals, do you have a scripture says that we can open up portals? >> I understand where you're coming from. I do. And I appreciate everything that you've said to me. I appreciate everything you've done for the body of Christ. And I appreciate the fact that you allowed me to come here and share my story. And um and again, we'll be praying and fasting for God to keep on helping you and your family and to bring even more physical healing. And and I love you, brother in Christ. I love you and I love all the brethren here. Uh and I really I'll continue watching your videos because I do feel that >> I do see the love that you have for God. I do see the zealousness and the passion and the desire to be obedient to his word and to go by everything that the word has established for us to go by him. And I appreciate that. Let me ask you a question before you go. Before you go, I've got to run quickly, but let me ask you a question before you go. If you Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Joshua died at this very moment do you are you 100% sure where you would go to spend eternity >> yes >> where heaven how do you know I have faith I have faith I've g my life over to him I love him with everything that I have >> how do and how do you know you love him how do you know you gave your life to him I have the Holy Spirit inside me >> how do you know >> because ever since I invited him in life has not been the same how do you know that how you know that's the Holy Spirit how do you know that you are saved there are some things Because I know I feel the difference between when I was in the world and when I came to God. I feel the difference. I feel that love. I feel that purity, that holiness, that anointing, that power that only the Holy Spirit can give. >> I can find I can find Jehovah's Witnesses. I can find Mormons. I can find people in different cults who will say the exact same thing. Joshua, you're writing books. You're having speaking engagement things like that or whatever. How do you know that you are in Christ? Because I've accepted him as my Lord and Savior and I'm doing my best every day to Okay. So now let me ask you another question. How does a person know? Not you. How how would a person know? I want to be saved. Joshua, what can I do to be saved? You say what? Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Believe that he gave his life for you and rose on the third day and follow him. Read the scriptures. Pray, fast, seek him. Deny yourself and try to live in holiness. So what you do is a person when when someone ask me this, well I have I have entrusted my life into what Christ did which was to pay a debt for me that I could not pay. uh and I'm undeserving and I am in a place to where I recognize how falling I am and because of what Christ has done. I place my faith in that and I love him. And you said you made a statement. You said you said you follow him. You cannot follow him Joshua without following his word. You cannot follow him by supplanting his word with experience. And so I just want I just want to put this in your ear um so that it gives you something to kind of to kind of think about and chew on. Amen. >> Yes. He's giving me a lot to think about. Thank you so much. Listen up. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, thank you to you and thank you everybody for watching and um yes I'm praying for you and your ministry for God to keep on using you because I know you do love the Lord. I I do know that very much. Thank you. I appreciate that. All right, brother. I've got I got to go ahead and move. This has been a wonderful conversation. You take care, brother. God bless you. All right. His whole issue is all everything experiential. Let's go back over to By the way, Ezekiel, that's how you deal with it. Marcus, that's how you deal with it. If anyone, by the way, if you call yourself a pastor, it's pastor teacher. So, you're always in teaching mode. So when you hear because you're also shephering when you hear someone say something that is not biblical, that is not accurate. If you want to have a shepherd's heart, you also want to have a teacher's heart and a teacher's ear. And you want to gently or sometimes firmly guide them back to truth. Guide them back to the proper posture. Not just letting them run and I think I felt I know what I experienced. That's what you do. [music] >> [music]