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Shenzhen is portrayed as a city where the future has already arrived, characterized by an unparalleled speed of innovation and development that far exceeds global standards. Once a simple fishing village forty years ago, it has transformed into a massive economic engine fueled by intense competition and efficiency, often described as "Shenzhen Speed." This rapid pace allows for incredible clustering of industries; for instance, if one needs to build a drone, the suppliers for motors and chips are all located within the same area, enabling businesses to iterate and launch products with astonishing quickness. The city's culture is hyper-competitive, driven by a national desire to move forward faster than anyone else, creating an environment where success comes quickly but requires immense effort and resilience. The technological landscape in Shenzhen is so advanced that it feels like stepping into a scene from the movie *The Matrix*, with humanoid robots already engaging in combat sports and futuristic gadgets becoming everyday reality. Electric vehicles dominate the streets, making them affordable and accessible to the average citizen, while smart features like AI-powered glasses that translate languages in real-time and cars equipped with digital rearview cameras are commonplace. The city also embraces unique lifestyle trends, such as a booming perfume culture focused on emotional memories rather than just social status, and specialized washing machines designed to handle delicate items like underwear separately for hygiene. Even architecture reflects this forward-thinking mindset, with buildings resembling spaceships and massive drone shows that push the boundaries of what is considered possible. Despite its futuristic image, Shenzhen maintains a deep connection to its past and offers a diverse cultural experience that contrasts sharply with other major cities. The city includes ancient districts dating back over 1,700 years, providing a historical counterpoint to its gleaming skyscrapers and high-tech zones. This blend allows residents and visitors to enjoy modern conveniences while exploring traditional markets, old guard towers reminiscent of *Mulan*, and artisanal fashion scenes that emphasize quality and heritage over mere branding. The city acts as a melting pot for people from all over China who have migrated there seeking better opportunities, creating a dynamic society where individuals can build wealth and provide for their families in ways that were previously unimaginable. Ultimately, Shenzhen represents a unique model of development where making money and pushing the world forward go hand in hand, offering a glimpse into what life could look like globally in the coming decades. While some may find the rapid changes disorienting or even feel that certain aspects seem fake until experienced firsthand, the city's ability to integrate advanced technology with human needs creates an environment of genuine excitement and opportunity. The presence of happy children playing safely amidst this high-tech wonder suggests that progress does not have to come at the cost of well-being, making Shenzhen not just a hub for business and innovation, but also a place where families can thrive and dream big.
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What if the future's happening already? >> But most of us just don't know where to look. >> Welcome to Global Next China Edition. >> Let's discover what's next. Joe, it is a scorching Shenzhen day. We're outside, but where are we at? >> We are at the Pingong Finance Center. I believe it's the fifth tallest building in the world, and we're going to be eating at the 118th floor. >> Okay. And we're going to be able to see what this entire thing that is Shenzen. >> 360 of all Shenzhen. >> Uh Chris, so you're from Ho, also a tech city. What do you know about Shenzhen? >> Well, I know nothing about Shenzhen, but I heard a ton of Shenzhen. I think everybody in China knows a lot about Shenzhen, like on paper. So, I just wanted to know what makes Shenzhen different. >> Well, there's China speed and then there's Shenzen speed and that's at a completely different level. >> Oh man, I want to check it out. Listen guys, I think that Shenzen might be the most important, underrated, unknown city in the world right now. Let's go check it out. Let's do it. What? What is this? >> This is a Japanese restaurant. >> Yeah. This just like the Doesn't this feel like Jon? >> It does. >> Where where where are we at? Are we >> So, this restaurant's called Altitude. >> I don't care where you are. This is almost like the feels like Dubai. >> Yeah. >> And you can see literally everywhere. So, 360 of all the all Shimpa. >> Oh, wow. The city was built on the gadget. It was a fishing village like 40 years ago. >> Yeah. >> Nothing here before. >> I mean, um, what are we doing now? >> Yeah. No. So, it's a you can order your main here and then you can go and grab uh for the buffet as well. >> So, this is like a hybrid. You get a really expensive thing and then >> you can get as many as you want. >> Okay. >> This is a cold mantis shrimp for your shrimp cocktail. >> Oh my goodness. The canto. >> Yeah. Got to Hey, the cantos. We got to go for the tacio. Definitely. >> That's a must. >> They got a lot of tao duck here too. >> I've seen your viral videos. What you actually do? >> So my main business, we actually work with brands to develop and do their manufacturing. >> Right. >> So that's why it was a big reason we moved to China. >> Can you tell us what kind of brands or young ordin lifestyle things have you have changed for you? It is so affordable to eat out here. So, we just eat out all the time. >> Okay. >> Between that and food delivery, my uh my home cooking has definitely rapidly >> declined. >> We're in Shenzhen. So, we got to do two things at one time. >> What is Shenzhen speed? Like, help Western people understand that because it's like me being here, I understand it now, but maybe people back home, they have no idea what you're talking about. >> By clustering everything together, it's very competitive, but everything becomes super efficient. If you're building a a drone, the motor suppliers, the chip suppliers are all in one place. So, you can just move so much quicker. >> Crystal, is it kind of like uh your hyperco competitive Chinese middle school and high school? >> Well, I mean, like I think, you know, every single Chinese is super competitive and it seems like a lot of it is by design as well, right? Cuz you know, like the country want to they come to faster. So they want to like squeeze that out of people and business and um it's brutal but you know whoever wins wins big right so I mean like I got to say after gau like there is no hardship in life anymore you know like you can do whatever really yeah because it's so hard I had like nightmares after nightmares for 6 months after gau every single day I was worried about going to take the golf ball again that's how hard it was like we all had PTSD like the nation had golf ptsd >> there there's a lack of like softness in I know even like the high schools like I was talking to my my staff and they're like, "Oh, we we go to school from 7 to 10:00." I'm like, "What? That's crazy." Coming from North America, she's like, "Oh, it's like normal. Normal normal six days a week. >> Competitive dynamic, but if you make it, you come up here to this buffet and then >> top of the >> and eat these tiger from Thailand. These tiger ponds. >> If you think about it, you're probably the highest person in the entire world eating tiger prawns right now." >> That's true. Oh my gosh. I never thought about it. >> Hey guys, listen. Shanzen, I believe will have the first of a lot of things probably moving forward in the world. >> Yeah, >> I think has the most billionaires. Like it's the fastest rate of creating billionaires. Yeah. I think like a lot of people are coming from smaller villages to come work in Shenzhen. It's like it's a big deal for their family and like they get to provide for their family. You can get a better life and like this is your chance to make it. >> My man behind the camera right here from Num Mongu. >> Yeah. >> Inner Mongolian man. No, he came he came for a reason. >> It's a perfect example of that, right? >> Man, he didn't come here to slack off. Oh my goodness. This is Shanzhan. >> Yeah, it is Shanzhan. >> But it it's it's such a beautiful city. >> I mean, I don't know. I'm from Ha. I would say Hong is the best. >> But that's true. That's true Chinese provincialism, guys. >> Uh so Joe, what do you think about the fashion scene in China? because you know recently there's a lot of people wearing Chinese fashion um in Taylor Swift's wedding um so yeah it's a big deal right now in the west >> I think right now you look at like Chinese brands they're the speed of innovation they're able to iterate they're able to try things and there's so much rich culture that Chinese brands are just taking over I think every sector at this point >> the ability to use technology to like solve these quick problems even like AI adoption here AI adoption in China versus North America. I think it's very different and here it's very celebrated. >> I think in the US only 39% of people are optimistic about AI and like 80% of people in China are like optimistic about AI. So >> did you feel that in your upbringing growing up here? >> Yeah. Uh in terms of technology, >> yeah, like that embracement of that, you know, versus like the nerd like gets his underwear hung up on the locker. >> First of all, everybody like wear like glasses in school, right? So all of us are nerds, right? Like you can't just be like, oh, you know, like you're a nerd, but then you're a nerd, too, you know. So, Joe, do you think you're going to go back to Toronto anytime soon? >> Okay. So, originally the original plan was that we we still had a Toronto office. We had, you know, 40,000 like 35,000 foot facility there and I had all my staff and the original plan was to go back and forth every 6 months and then >> longer we stayed here, I look at my like we normally want to go back even to like travel. >> Yeah. So, uh, we closed the Toronto office and now this is our main office here. So, >> Oh, cool. Very cool. >> We still have all our families in Toronto, but we're trying to get them over here to experience this. >> Oh, wow. So, it's only been like a year and then you made all these big moves. >> Yeah. Shenzen Speed. >> Shen Speed for sure. >> Shenzen was it was actually like an experiment for China back in the day. So, like in Shenzen itself, it was like we're going to experiment. There used to be a border for Shenzen where you couldn't come in or out. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. And you had to like >> So, it's a country by itself. Well, was this just like this enclosed experiment? Obviously, the experiment went really well. >> Yeah. Yeah, for sure it did, though. >> Hey, 10 out of 10, Special Economic Zone. Can you talk about the electrification of Shanzen because we're looking at, you know, I don't even know how many EVs, but I almost feel like I'm looking at a museum right here. We're next to a combustion car. >> I would say probably the majority of cars right now are EVs. >> You'll notice because they have the green plates. The blue plates are going to be gas cars, but it's just so affordable to buy EVs these days. And it's so easy to actually just like plug them in. >> Yeah. >> It's like 500 bucks to get a charger in your apartment for your >> Do you have a EV yourself? >> I have a TV. >> We're headed to our next location. But Joe, you were you were about to get one of these. >> If I was going to get any Chinese car, it' probably be this one. But I need to get a chauffeur as well. >> And it come when you order the DD. >> Yeah, it came with a chauffeur. Yeah. >> Why Why are the DDs and the food so cheap in China? like the truth. >> You know, as I think just the vehicles itself, they're they're cheap. You're not Chinese people are very cautious about paying more than they should for things. >> M >> Hey, that that you know, as the city changes, that about Chinese people is never going to change. No, >> they got all types of snacks and everything. >> There's a fridge here. >> A lot of people think that's just Instagram. You know what I mean? Like it could be fake. >> Oh, it's cold. >> Yeah. >> Show the TV, by the way. Got >> TV here. The seats are massaging seats, by the way. >> Okay. >> Oh, there's a clock there, too. >> Yeah. So like I think there's a lot of people like oh Chinese like the reason why Chinese EVs are not allowed in North America because it would just absolutely decimate car drivers. >> Wait, how much is this car? >> I think this one is like if you you get the mid model ones like 60 60k >> dude 60k. >> Yeah. You get a BMW X4 with nothing in it like CarPlay. This is cool. And you know one thing I noticed is even the uh rear view mirror is digital camera. Yeah. It was definitely for guys cuz you know like you know like the car stuff is cool and everything but like a girl is not going to care about it as much as like art and fashion. I haven't seen any art and fashion here. You know you're working fashion. >> Hey hey hey Shanun's for guys. Cheers to that. >> Oh my gosh >> dude. I think when we're talking about electrification it's crazy because it's just everywhere around you. >> Yeah. >> We're just >> in the mall. This is actually I think this is this is Den. So this is BYD and Daimler collaboration. >> Okay. This is like, would you say that Shenzhen is an engineer's wet dream? >> Totally. Like, what in the where in the world are you going to see robots, >> right? This is the first one in the world, it says. >> Yeah. >> And guys, this is not Battlebots, which was used back in the day was like lawnmowers with like spinning blades. We're talking about like robot MMA, right? >> They don't have UFC. They have R UFC. Robot Ultimate Fighting Championship. >> What are we looking at? These are the robots I guess we're they're going to be fighting. >> These are it. >> You know, this may be the closest thing to the Matrix in the future. Remember when Neo Ke Reeves downloaded Kung Fu into his brain to be like a expert fighter? I mean, essentially, you can't we can't do it with humans yet. You know, maybe Neurolink in the future, but you could do it with this humanoid. >> It's only been like what, like one or two years since we've seen humanoid robots, >> and they're already fighting. >> Yeah, they're going to be crazy. You know, you were saying something interesting like where's this if the robot fighting is here now, where's it going to be in 5 years, right? >> And I think that's the whole thing about the city is like you're you're hopping into the city that is on a fast train to god knows wherever. >> Do you think girls will be into robot fighting? >> No. >> If the robot fight league and all the futuristic logistic stuff wasn't enough, they got cheeseburger pancakes. They're just thinking different. They're moving different. They're thinking about what people are going to want in the future. They're going to want two things that they love. Lunch and breakfast. >> Where are we? >> New development area. We'll see like the they call the AirPod buildings, >> right? Airpod building. >> I mean, I see a lot of spaceship like buildings. >> You know, that's the one thing I love about Shenzen is they're willing to even China in general, they're willing to try stuff with architecture. >> Yeah. >> Whereas you look at like Toronto, Vancouver, it's just like one generic design. Toronto especially. You guys love the glass square. >> This is what Apple should have done. >> What What do we Where are we going? I think we should go straight to the top trim. >> Yeah, that one. >> You said that that's actual gold. >> Yeah, all the topline spec ones will have real gold. >> How much is it? >> I think you can get the top line spec one for like 70k. All these attachments are ones you can actually buy. Even like those rows of buttons on the bottom. If you want it very clean, you don't need all those things, but you just buy and attach them on. >> So, those are just like snap-on pieces. Like that's pretty crazy. So apparently now you can like type in something here and it will like project some lights. So like whatever words you type here, it will show up in front of you too. So if you want to surprise another person be like, you know, happy birthday something, you should think. >> Do not let the Dominicans in New York City get a hold of this. >> Well, they're they're not going to >> Yeah, but if they did, they flooding the road with messages. >> Here we go. >> Oh, no. I thought >> Oh, I know. Okay. >> Oh, look look look. Can we go a Yeah. >> Oh wow. This is like a karaoke controller. >> Oh my gosh. All right. They got Tik Tok in here. >> No, I'm just saying. >> I mean, is that surprising to you? >> But they got Tik Tok with the scrolling comments. >> Well, that's how it is. >> Well, you didn't expect that. >> Come from the US. Okay. Can't stand it. I GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE. >> This was like their Max one. So, I I think when Apple launched their new phone, they had these and they were like, "Oh, we're going to release the one with the screen at the back." >> That's crazy. Wait, what's that for? What's that for? >> Selfie camera. >> A selfie camera. Wait, but so you can see yourself from the back. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's pretty cool. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, girl tag. Girl tag. >> The only one I have seen so far. >> The only thing that got you excited. What? >> Oh. >> Oh my gosh. Motion sensor. >> Dude, it's crazy. It's so Listen, I'm speaking English. It's putting the English in and then Crystal's speaking Chinese and it's putting the Chinese in. >> So, this is AI glasses. Apparently, you can change the color of the Oh my gosh. color. >> Yeah. So, like I actually like it lit up when I was changing the color. >> No, we can see the lens changing. >> Yeah. Oh, I was uh I was asking this AI assistant the you know weather of Shenzhen today and there's like a speaker so I can hear everything is saying to me. So now it's translating. >> Okay. >> Shut up. >> So now it's translating this paragraph to me. I just saw and then took a picture and it tells me in Chinese what this means. >> That's cool. Oh, >> the underwear and the socks. >> What? >> Wait. So, you're saying that you're you're you're separating it by garment. >> Yeah. >> Actually, I want to get one of these. >> So, you can like put whatever into either this or this or this and you can then select the mode. >> So, three different modes. >> Yeah. So, it can be underwear. This can also be underwear. But like the thing is like I think for Chinese is that we always want to like wash our underwear like separately >> separately just because there's a lot of bacteria on it, right? If you're like washing with other clothes, it's not very hygienic. >> So that's why >> that's a good point. I actually didn't even think about that. >> That's why they have this function because otherwise you're going to hand wash all this stuff. >> The Xiaomi store in terms of just like integration across product lines. 10 out of 10. Where are we headed? >> So we're going to before we head to the cultural center and get a drone delivery, I'm going to take you into this store. It's called ENO 100 >> and has like all the Shenzen based gadgets are all sold in this like one place. There might be a robot in there. >> Okay. So, a little bit um for tourists that come to Shanzan might be a little bit more of a unified way to see everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> This is what we came to see, guys. >> You can walk the >> Are you going to pet the dog? >> Hello. >> Yo, >> the robot hawk is very aggressive. >> It's a pet. >> Yeah. Dude, >> this is the future. >> So, first you'll walk and then you'll run. >> Oh, shoot. >> Wait a second. >> Oh my goodness. >> Whoa. It's moving for me, guys. >> Yeah, I like that. You get a get a little hip movement, too. You can kind of jump in it and go like real. Oh man. Whoa. If you don't like feel tech, you know what I mean? Because if you don't understand UIUX, which is understandable, you'll feel this. Run, Boris. Run. Oh my god. This is the best thing I've tried in Shanz. This is crazy. >> Like what a place to grow up. >> Mhm. Like you can go to the park and actually enjoy. You don't have to worry about needles. >> Look at this drone just sitting here. >> Oh my gosh. Is that a drone? >> This is only in Shenzhen. Randomly come across this. >> Can Can anybody explain to me cuz I don't know anything about drones? Like why is this so big? >> No, you can do first impression flies in it. >> Oh, but like is that going to be super dangerous? Like you're going to be up in the air, right? >> Yeah. I'm sure you put a helmet on. >> Yo, look at just how modern this stuff is. Like what the heck, dude? Are we in a Kanye concert? Cuz I know he uses a lot of these like organic movements. >> Yeah. >> Crystal, what do you think Chinese people feel when they see these uh I guess really hyper modern structures? >> Well, I think they're like super proud of, you know, what we have achieved in the last few decades. Like I think that Chinese people actually know that they have a very very good compared to the rest of the world. You know, even some of them like they don't go abroad and stuff like that, they still know. Yo, listen guys, look how intellectual this is. Neither love nor terror makes one blind. Indifference makes one blind. I'm not going to lie. You couldn't even have it in the US. You James Baldwin is a US author and thinker, but you just couldn't even have it in the US. >> Joe, what do you think, Crystal? Can Ho really measure up to Shenzhen after what we've seen? >> No, I think it's very different. We have like a ton of influencers in Ho. A lot of pretty girls. I haven't seen any here. Oh, >> I mean, yeah, technology. I I admit yes but then you know yeah sure I heard that there's a lot of museums being built in Shenzhen as well but they're going to be like newer museums you know this is like a Dubai Abu Dhabi kind of thing but Hjo we are like the ancient city you know we have the literature like painting I don't know just different >> I I think what it is is this is like a massive melting pot of different parts of China all coming together all with the singular goal of >> making money >> well no the singular goal of pushing the world forward part >> really or making money >> making money at the same time. >> But we're going to where? >> It's called uh I think Manuel Ancient City. >> So we're we're so we're going from like the newest part to the oldest part. >> It's one of the oldest places in Shenzen and you can get a little bit of a breather like >> away from the tech and a little bit more like mom and pop little shops. >> Yeah. To the old ways. >> This is uh 1700 years old. >> Okay. And what was it 1700 years ago? >> 330 CE. >> Okay. And what did they do there at the time? >> Lived >> something important. Maybe not as important as HJO was 1700 years ago. >> Oh, I don't know. It's probably just like some Cantonese people making trades. That's just >> Where are we? We are at a 1700year-old ancient city here in China. Apparently not as old as uh >> some of it. Yeah. No, no, it's not. But it's old enough. >> But it gives you a little like uh contrast between the bright shiny new Shenanzen and what it used to be back in the day. Uh, I'm getting a little bit more like lifestyle vibes. I'm seeing people with the little stylish, you know, hipster shoes and uh little photo shoots and not the tech vibe. >> Yeah, definitely. Yeah. >> So, it goes to show you guys Shanzan still got some of the old, you know, gongdong haka. Man, what a contrast. >> Like we going this looked like the set of Mulan. If you guys look ahead real quick, you can see this is like an ancient guard tower from Mulan. >> Listen guys, we got to do some girl coded stuff. I mean, you work in fashion. You know both sides, Crystal, this is more your zone. We Is this So, what do we think in here, guys? I I need it cuz you guys both know more about fashion than I do. So, this is like really cultured clothing. I think actually it's a little hot to wear stuff in Shenzen, >> but this is just shows you like what's what's really available. The craftsmanship like everyone everyone thinks of China like Shien, but it's like no, they can make really crazy stuff here. >> Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about Chinese fashion? Do like how do you see it in I don't know the world stage? I I think when you actually look at Chinese brands now again like Song Yeah. >> is a brand where it's all about quality. It's about heritage and it it it's priced at a price point where they don't care about the psychological aspect of fashion cuz law fashion is psychological. You you buy luxury brands because how it makes you feel >> social status >> and social status. >> Now people in China, >> they're confident in who they are >> now. They're just willing to buy things that don't need to project who they are. >> Yeah. Oh my gosh. Like that's my dog. There's a whole cafe. We got to go. We got to go. This >> about pads. >> Girl coded. >> Hello. >> The Dachshund's got a perpetual puppy eyes. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. So Dachon's apparently in right now in China. Like they're getting really popular and that's why they have this like dachshund store apparently. Oh my gosh. So this is also big in China right now. >> What the heck is fragrance this? Listen, you can't smell it through the camera, but this would be like the most premium spa type smell you would want in a getting a massage. You want to go to sleep, chilling in a bathtub. >> Not perfume. >> Let's come. Let's come. You got to see >> like perfume culture is huge right now. So, one thing I noticed about Chinese perfume is that they're very emotional. The name and everything is all about like memory. It's all about I don't know like certain kind of emotions about evoking you. And they use a lot of like Chinese ingredients that you don't find in the west or >> I want this one. I would like this one. I >> heartbeat. >> Like a girl, she's smelling this way. >> Heartbeat. Okay. >> But um it's it's interesting because it says heartbeat, but then the Chinese says um addiction >> down and slow down. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So it says emotions of Shenzhen. >> It's >> Wait, is it dead? >> No, it's breathing. So Joe, what was the final verdict? The cat's alive. >> The cat's alive. Oh my god, look at this cat. >> They look like a fake cat. It kind of goes to show you how just safe it is for animals, right? This animal that has no uh defense mechanism like >> like versus like a bodega cat. >> What is this? What is this? pretty good. >> You feel the energy? >> It's really resonating for quite a long time. >> Yeah. >> Yo, you were just saying something interesting when you moved here with your family. >> Your wife is actually Italian. >> My wife is Italian. I You know what it And I think that just goes to show you how much China is changing. I don't even speak Chinese. My wife doesn't speak Chinese. But >> you speak Kanto though. >> I speak Kto. >> That's still Chinese, man. Don't listen to her. They still get anyway. >> But like even with that language barrier, the pull to move to China was still worth it for us. And >> was that an additional consideration? >> Yeah, it was definitely it's like how are we going to communicate? But I think 5 years ago would have been difficult. Now with like with our our phones with Google Translate, it makes it like >> it's not impossible. It might be inconvenient, >> right? But it's not impossible. >> How does she like it? >> She loves it. It's to not have to worry, especially as a woman, to not have to worry about your safety. You've been in Singapore, so you're good. >> Yeah. >> But as a woman, to be in in a country to not have to worry about your safety is a massive stress reliever. >> Uh >> it allows you to dedicate that sort of cortisol spike that would go to staying alive to something else. >> What do you think about the food? Like the noodles, you know. Well, I always tell her, you know, noodles, pizza, pretty much all the great Italian stuff came from China because Marco Polo. >> Exactly. Hong Kong at some point. >> All road, >> I guess. Crystal, this is your first time spending significant time touring Shanzan. >> Yeah, for sure. You're a very proud HJO person. HJO p uh people in Shenzen people have a little bit of a rivalry, but what what you what did you take away? >> I mean, I think Shenzhen is cool, right? Like the tag is insane. Like I think that if you're a T person, uh especially consumer t, I think this it like this is a place. And it just seems like I don't know, not just today, but like yesterday, you know, every day, like if you wanted to do business and you want to make money fast, uh come to Shenzhen, you know. Joe, this is not the first tour you've done, >> but I mean, I guess what do you take away every time? Like, cuz you know, you're showing people on camera, off camera, >> your new city, right? I >> I I think like when you meet you like this and you go through the tours, obviously there's so much stimulus in Shenzhen, you can only take in so much at a time. >> I think every time I come there, it's like I notice new things and I get to appreciate it a lot more every time. >> Wow. Do you miss Toronto? I think I miss my my friends and family in Toronto. >> Um, but I I think >> there's just so much to do here. There's so much to see. >> Um, >> you don't really think about it. >> I don't really think about it. Like >> there is a little bit of the Toronto food culture that we don't have. >> Haven't found good jerk chicken here. >> Yeah. >> But, uh, the benefits far outweigh the the negatives. I mean, I got to say, you know, like as a Chinese person on mainland China, like I just wish more people could see Asia like for what it is right now, then you can probably sees more opportunities for for yourself. >> What do you think about China maxing? And how come China maxing seems to include Chongqing, Shanghai, maybe some gula, like old school parts of China, but not Shenzai? >> I think what it is, it's like any, this is just social media in general. people will see a video that does really well and then that becomes the tourist world and that's just kind of driven how tourism happens now these days. It's like you know >> it's all online it's all online. So I think that's why like Chongqing has gotten so much attention, >> right? People are like, "Oh, I'm on this building on this top floor." >> I was going to say like, you know, as a Chinese person, uh, seeing Chongqing to be so popular amongst foreigners is just like a mind, you know, because Chongqing is not that po like it is. I mean, obviously all of us know Chongqing, right? But it's not like the big fish, you know? Like there's so many >> I think you got like all of Canada's population in one city. >> So there's so many places like that in China, right? Not just Chong. But where else can you make it look like you're eating a Subway? >> Yeah. I mean, >> yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. So, that that just tells you like how I guess like, you know, there's so many other places to explore in China and then people are so fixated on certain things online, which I don't blame them cuz that's just how it is. But then they're just I wish people are more openminded. They can, you know, like discover more places in China. That's just as cool, if not more cool. I >> I think one part of it is when you see a lot of people do stuff around Shenzen. I think like people see the drone shows and how massive they are and the point where it's like everyone just thinks it's AI cuz it's so far >> out of people's reality of what is possible >> that it's like oh it's fake. It's like it's propaganda. >> It's like no it's not how people make a living. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean even me I have to admit so I saw the palm scans for WeChat but I didn't feel that until I saw why my guy wearing you know the yellow outfit do it. And then I was just at the store today and they're like, uh, you know, scan your hand. They're telling me to scan my hand. >> It's so easy because you just go in the store, you grab whatever, and just go like and you sleep. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. China has 1.4 billion people. We have all these provinces, got all these cultures, they're all very different from each other, right? So it's like that's not China. It's like a part of China. There's this old saying I remember uh anything that they say about China is true somewhere but probably not true everywhere. >> Everywhere. >> It is a gigantic uh game map, right? And it's almost like a continent really in and of itself. And to your point, I actually thought that was a great insight. Like it's so far ahead that until you come and see it and feel it and almost participate in it, it almost feels fake. until you come here, until you experience it, it's very unbelievable because it's so far out of the realm of what's possible. >> Those are the two things. I guess my final takeaway is before we we just got to do the palm scan cuz I got to see it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I think the kids are super happy. Maybe the happiest kids I've ever seen in my life. >> They're living life here. >> And then this is the most futuristic city in the world. But it makes sense that the most futuristic city would also be the happiest for kids. >> That's true. Cuz kids are the future. >> Yeah. Then you go like this. >> That easy. >> Just walking out. >> Oh my. >> I don't even know if I ever saw that in a sci-fi. I want to say it's like you I think a lot of people especially in North America are always like oh no but they have biometrics. Like if you travel to any airport they already have your biometrics anyways anywhere.