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Why Populism Is The Real Reason For America’s Political Atmosphere.

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In this episode of *The Tom Bilyeu Show*, host Tom Bilyeu addresses President Trump's recent executive action declaring all Biden-era documents, including pardons and memorandums, null and void. While acknowledging the frustration such a move might cause for those released under previous administrations, Bilyeu reframes the issue by comparing unchecked corruption to gangrene; he argues that while removing specific bad actors is necessary, the true disease infecting American politics is "lawfare." He draws parallels between his own legal battles and Trump's current stance, noting how both have faced what they perceive as unjustified persecution through novel rulings. Bilyeu expresses a strong desire for an era defined by honor and integrity, criticizing the political climate where opponents are relentlessly pursued legally rather than addressing substantive issues. The discussion shifts to the nature of modern American politics, which Bilyeu describes as having become existential due to extreme polarization. He observes that both major parties have rejected compromise; Democrats view Trump supporters as fascists while Republicans dismiss calls for de-escalation by labeling them snowflakes. This mental battle has made elections a matter of life and death for many voters, leading to efforts to rig outcomes rather than accept results. Bilyeu suggests that this environment prevents great leaders like Nelson Mandela or George Washington from emerging today because the political atmosphere is too toxic for compromise. He notes his own difficulty in finding allies within either party who would advocate for stopping mutual legal attacks, highlighting how few people are willing to bridge these divides without being dismissed by their respective sides. Bilyeu then delves into a philosophical reflection on why society reacts so strongly to negative stimuli and the role of populism in current times. He posits that humans function somewhat like automata programmed with specific ideas, meaning significant societal shifts only occur through abject suffering or overwhelming optimism brought about by prosperity. In this context, he identifies Trump as a populist leader who understands how to fan existing flames of anger into an inferno, contrasting him with himself. Bilyeu admits he will never be popular in the same way figures like Nick Fuentes are because his North Star is self-respect derived from adhering to personal values rather than pandering to public rage or reducing moral complexity. He acknowledges that while some may feel these populist sentiments authentically, others might simply be products of their time reacting to a fractured landscape. Finally, the conversation takes an abstract turn toward AI and evolutionary theory as metaphors for societal development. Bilyeu suggests that if we are not in a simulation, reality functions exactly like one: stable yet dynamic systems require boundaries to prevent chaos while allowing novelty to emerge from individual actions within those rules. He uses historical examples such as asteroid impacts wiping out dinosaurs or bottlenecks reducing humanity to thousands of survivors before re-expansion to illustrate how life persists through catastrophic events followed by evolution. Ultimately, he concludes that the problem of evil exists because this dynamic system grants us capacity for both good and bad; however, AI offers a potential path forward where individuals operate within bounded rules yet create unique lives, fostering coherence without becoming an undifferentiated mass. He ends on a note of gratitude to his listeners who validate his efforts despite feeling like he is sometimes screaming into the wind.
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Good morning everybody. Welcome to another Tom Bilyeu show live. I love doing these. Trump has declared all Biden auto pen actions null and void. >> President Biden was swinging his auto pen around, signing everything. And breaking news now, Trump just officially terminated every document, pardon, executive order, proclamation, or memorandum signed by the auto pen under Joe Biden. This is a quote, "Any and all documents, proclamations, executive orders, memorandums, or contracts signed by order of the new infamous and unauthorized auto pen within the administration of Joseph R. Biden Jr. are hereby null, void, and of no further force or effect. Anyone receiving pardons, commutations, or any other legal documents so signed, please be advised that said document has been fully and wholly terminated and is of no legal effect. Thank you for your attention to this matter." You know how mad I would be if I had to if I got out of jail and Trump was like, "Psych." And then I had to go back. >> Bro. >> For sure. >> And you just let a whole narco dude get off and you're about to auto pen me. I would be so pissed. >> Yeah. >> I'm running at that point. >> So, yeah. God. >> Here's my thing with this. Uh as soon as I read this, I thought of gangrene. >> When somebody has gangrene, you have to amputate. And so, you might lose your arm, your leg, whatever, but you can't let the gangrene spread. Now, the gangrene in this scenario is not the auto pen. It is not that um people in government have done something bad. They most certainly have, and there will be plenty of crimes to find if you want to go after it. The gangrene is lawfare. And I am not surprised in the slightest that because he was gone after, he is now going after other people. Hurt people hurt people. Uh but boy, do I wish that we had somebody in office that understood, that could stand and give the following speech. There's no one in American history who has had the opposition go after him legally harder than me. And I believe that all of this was unjustified. I believe you guys created novel rulings specifically to go after me. You had people like Letitia James that ran to get elected by saying I'm going after Donald Trump. Not I know what he did, but that I will go find a thing that he did to go after him. Nobody has been persecuted like I've been persecuted. And I'm telling you right now that it stops here. And we have to usher in an era of honor, integrity, uh virtue, and let's bring some of these things back. Clearly is not capable of that. But Jesus, do I want that to be the message? Because the gangrene is lawfare. The thing that needs to be amputated is lawfare. Now, if you can start anew and say, "Okay, listen. That that past [ __ ] is the past [ __ ] And I would talk endlessly about the fact that the people actually running the government during Biden's time referred to themselves uh as the Politburo, which is specifically a communist group that runs the government. So, I'm like, "Dude, that one to me, we all know that I have my I don't think it's weird, but I'm sure many people map it as a weird aversion to communism socialism. Uh so, by all means discount the veracity that I feel it, but like that's crazy to me. And I still wouldn't be going after them legally. Now, you draw a line in the sand and you say, "Don't keep [ __ ] around because if you do something now, we're going to come after you because we can't like let this stuff stand." And so, now it's like cool. Moving forward, everybody understands that abide by the rules, abide by the law. This is a new era. We're not playing that game anymore. What ends up happening? The thing that people ought to be absolutely terrified by is this will make elections truly existential. Because now Trump is in a position where if a Republican does not win the presidency, they're going to go after him again. They're already talking about to troops, hey guys, just so you know, the statute of limitations is 5 years for following unlawful orders, and that's going to be long after literally a quote, that will be long after Trump has left office. So, what they're trying to communicate is the troops should be ignoring Trump because they will be prosecuted after. It's like that one enrages me. because of what it does to the entire nation. And yeah, that that is just stupid and people are locked in this mental battle where they are making elections existential, which will make people want to do everything they can to rig an election. So, it's like, oh my god, so dumb. Um My daughter is in high school now, and I now hate high school. And I feel like I have never had so many back in my day like stories and kids don't do this and you young folk in the hippity like I'm I'm becoming that person and I never thought I'd be that person. >> We are all always that person. >> Yeah, so I I hear what you're saying, but you sound like a decent person walking up to the DNC. Like, hey guys, let's be friends. And they're like, what? No, he's a fascist. And you go to RNC like, hey guys, let's stop suing everybody. What? You're you're a snowflake, get out of here. Like, you know what I mean? I feel like are are you just yelling into the wind at this cuz I I get what you're saying. And it sounds good. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And I'm looking like, okay, maybe I'm looking at Trump's cabinet like, no, he won't say he won't say he won't say he won't maybe RFK would say it. And then I look at the DNC like, no, he won't say he won't say he maybe Pete Buttigieg might say like, I'm I'm looking at the eighth person in line of the that might say this thing and that's a might. So, it's it's one of those things now where it's like I I is this just we're just going to have to let them burn themselves on the oven and then we'll we'll get to see the results. I wrote a line about this in the upcoming deep dive, which is um Nelson Mandela would never come to power today. Uh George Washington would never come to power today. So, I think uh even though I do believe that the great man of history theory is real, that great men really are required to pull us in a direction, who we consider great changes era to era. This is a populist moment. So, I'm never going to be popular the way that Nick Fuentes is popular because I'm not willing to reduce the number of crayons that far. Uh and my North Star is self-respect. And I have a set of values, and when I adhere to those values, I respect myself. When I deviate from those values, I lose respect for myself, and I hate the way that feels so much that I will only do the things that make me respect myself, no matter what that means financially, etc. I'm never going to be popular in a moment like this where I have to pander. I have to give people back what they want. Now, some people may just authentically be there, and they're just they're a product of their time. They feel those things, and so they're not necessarily pandering. They just really are that. And I'm really not that. And so, to your point, yes, I even considered not writing that section cuz I was like, "Does this really matter?" The reality is I am to some extent screaming into the wind, and thank you to every kind person that's ever left a comment on YouTube that says, "Tom, trust me. I'm listening. People like me are listening." It means the world to me, and if I thought there were zero people, then I really wouldn't do it. Um but nevertheless, I'm okay with that because uh I'm only going to say what I believe to be true. I'm only going to say things that make me look back and go, "Well, I at least tried everything I could um to introduce these ideas to more people." So, yes, in a populist moment, you get populist leaders that have far fewer crayons, that understand the power of anger, that understand simplify messages, that want to um not only capture the rage that you already feel, but like really fan those flames and make it a much bigger inferno. So, that that is what it is. I have a very I have a super weird relationship with humans and it goes something like this. We are automata. So, we are swayed by ideas, but we are automata that run programming and because we run programming, the only changes you can make are changes that we're programmed to accept. So, you can nudge people a little bit, but for the most part, the only thing that pulls people out of these spirals is abject suffering. Just brutality, war, death, mayhem, extended poverty, or optimism brought on by everything is going great. When I look at that, I'm like, okay, maybe AI saves us. It's possible. It's not likely given people's reaction. I think that it will the promise of AI will happen, but it will be first we will suffer. Uh and so, the bell that I think gets rung first will be the suffering bell. And history tells me there's virtually no way to avoid that. You might be able to elongate it, but ultimately the trajectory only changes when you have rapid, undeniable prosperity or massive pain and suffering. >> That saddens me though and I think that's why I'm speechless now because it's like why do we have to learn that way? But I guess that's this >> This is where I say you're arguing with God. So, whatever created us has saw saw that to be fit that we're like that. Now, having said that, if I can tell you what I really think. Okay. Blind watchmaker. Evolution. >> Mhm. >> But we're in a simulation. And if we're not actually in a simulation, it works exactly like a simulation would work. Through every ounce of time that I spend on Kaizen, I realize I'm trying to get the AI to run at the individual level. And it takes the least amount of compute because you set up a bunch of rules and then all of the novelty is born out of a rule set existing at the individual level and they have a certain amount that they can change. You have to bound it because if they change too much they become an undifferentiated blob and maybe the game isn't fun, maybe it doesn't cohere. And this is one of the reasons that people wonder why is the universe so finely tuned? It seems impossible if gravity were just like bumped in slightly different directions everything falls apart. Once you program things in a certain way there's movement, there's change, it's dynamic, it's interesting. Um and it's a closed ecosystem that is stable. Like when you think about the fact that life started on Earth somehow some way and took a really long time but an asteroid hit the Earth that when you see there are now AI videos that will show you the scope of that [ __ ] crater which is technically underwater but like it's insane. It is so big. And you realized oh, it didn't kill mammals. Killed the dinosaurs and I think people often think it wiped everything out. This one little thing stayed alive and evolved and grew and became us and then there's the moment the Cape of Hope where I don't I think it's a volcano or something happened and humanity gets knocked all the way back to like 3,000 people or something and then we re-expand. If I could create a game that had that kind of like dynamic change and out Oh my god, I'd be over the moon. So, it has all these negative things. But, we've pushed the AI down to the individual. Like, the individual will lead a unique life. They'll do It's bounded. It's recognizable. They don't suddenly start acting like an amoeba, but it's it's unique. It's fascinating. It's interesting. They cohere. They interact with each other on like a known set of rules that like sometimes sparks into violence, but other times love, and they have children. Oh my god. It is so interesting. I get how we ended up here. The problem of evil in philosophical terms is a bitter pill to swallow. That to make us the interesting creature that we are, that we have the capacity for both good and evil, but we're pretty interesting. Thank you guys so much for joining us. Means the world. Love you all, and we'll see you next week.