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Rudyard Lynch argues that we are living in an absurd era defined by a fundamental disconnect from historical reality, encapsulated in his acronym SAW: Study Ancient Wisdom. He contends that modern society has abandoned shared truths found across world religions and folkways for the "blue pill" intellectual precedents of the 20th century, which he describes as an age of social engineering based on false assumptions like human perfectibility and infinite economic progress. Lynch asserts that these illusions led to catastrophic failures such as World War II totalitarianism, where over 150 million people died under the belief that humans could be molded into any shape. He contrasts this with pre-industrial societies where educated elites universally believed in a spirit world and magic; today's rejection of these concepts has left humanity isolated like fish unaware they are surrounded by water until we realize our current worldview is as strange to ancestors as theirs was to us. According to Lynch, the 21st century faces an impending global crisis driven by three specific variables: rising income inequality, declining average wages, and intense competition for elite jobs. He utilizes models from Peter Turchin and David Hackett Fischer's *The Great Wave* to predict that societies inevitably collapse every 250 years when the value of labor depreciates relative to capital, leading to mass war, famine, and social restructuring. This cycle is currently accelerating due to automation increasing labor supply by 40% while demand stagnates, causing a precipitous decline in quality of life metrics like home ownership and sleep quality. Lynch predicts that within one to five years, the polarization between college-educated liberals (Optimates) and uneducated conservatives/populists will escalate into civil war or revolution as desperate factions radicalize against a centralized government incapable of addressing their grievances. Lynch draws extensive parallels between modern America and the fall of Rome, suggesting we are on the verge of repeating history's darkest chapters. He compares Donald Trump to Gaius Gracchus attempting to restore the Roman middle class against an entrenched elite deep state (the Optimates), arguing that once political maneuvering fails, assassination or violent conflict follows as seen in the death of Caesar and Augustus. Furthermore, he discusses the "Mouse Utopia" experiment where mice populations collapsed into sociopathy and isolation upon reaching carrying capacity without predators, mirroring human trends toward mental health crises and social atomization caused by industrial bureaucracy. He warns that Western governments are committing civilizational suicide through degrowth policies, mass immigration to replace native populations, and environmental measures like solar radiation management that ignore the root causes of climate change in developing nations. The conversation also addresses the toxic nature of modern discourse, where Lynch claims institutions have lost all credibility by reflecting only extremist views rather than public consciousness. He critiques figures like Nick Fuentes for acting as "Feds" (Federal agents) who undermine genuine right-wing coalitions to avoid jail time or gain favor with power structures, noting a dissonance between their intellectual speed and moral alignment. Lynch emphasizes that both the far-left and hard-right share authoritarian traits, rejecting concepts of individual souls in favor of revolutionary ideologies that justify killing outgroups like Jews or capitalists to achieve perfection. He concludes by advising listeners not to succumb to nihilism but instead find spiritual grounding, identify asymmetric advantages, and determine what they are willing to die for, urging a return to studying history to avoid the delusion that humanity has mastered its own destiny.
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as a guy who has spent a lot of time
studying history how unusual do you
think that the time we're living in
right now is we are the most absurd era
in history by a very significant margin
uh and I can get into why I think that's
true I think there's only one under
there's one easy underlying variable
that explains all of it but I invented
an acronym called saw and saw is study
is an ancient wisdom and what that means
to convey is that there's an underlying
shared truth that all the world
religions share all the world's folk
ways going back thousands of years and
then this is corroborated by modern
evidence and I think this podcast is a
great example you might be like the one
of the biggest saw content creators
where what you do is you compare ancient
teachings with what modern science says
and so there is a strong tether between
the two and the 20th century is just a
bizarre century and that's true for
about a dozen different reasons uh the
20th century established different
intellectual precedents as it related to
maid as it related to the idea of
community the nation religion how
economic uh conditions worked and so you
could kind of call the blue pill era of
history from roughly the world wars
until covid or now and it's really the
centy of social engineering so our era
of history is incredibly bizarre and the
irony is that we judge everyone else
according to our stand standard but our
standard is incredibly strange and so I
like to say that a fish in a pond cannot
know its place in the world because it
only knows the water and that we are
that fish and the reason we don't study
history is because if we started looking
for what it taught us we'd realize we're
doing something very very wrong how so
oh a variety of ways um the largest
example and something I freaking like to
say is the idea that's killed the most
people in history is the idea that
humans are inherently perfect where
the the crisis that started or the world
wars in the 20th Century's
totalitarianism killed over 150 million
people and that's larger than anything
else it's in any way comparable in
history and that was based upon the
assumption that you can break and mold
human nature to be whatever you want and
the blank slate or the idea that all
people are born the same all people are
born the same capabilities sounds nice
on paper but in reality it's a immediate
next jump is totalitarianism to socially
engineer people to reach whatever aim
you would like and that's just one
example where there's so many of these
the idea of infinite Financial progress
no matter what this is idea the left
holds up a lot which is um the left sees
money as something to divide not
something to create the reality is money
is created every single year by people
producing it and if you look at most of
History most of civilization stagnation
is the norm it's you have an Empire rise
the Empire exploits The Peasants they
grow weak another they fall barbarians
restart the process only for pretty
small slivers of History including ours
for creating up certain incentive
structures do you see very rapid
progress but we take that completely for
granted so economically very unique what
else would be in the uh top few the top
rungs so the idea that men and women are
psychologically the same which is
something that our ancestors would view
is completely ridiculous and we view our
ancestors as stupid our ancestors if
they saw us if you took a Greek
philosopher or a medieval philosopher
and brought them to our day they would
say that we had a weird combination of
autism and schizophrenia where the thing
with uh there there's a lot of
psychology about this but we have very
few records of autism or schizophrenia
from the pre-industrial world where the
mental illnesses a society has are
driven by the social structure that in
the Neurosis it puts in the society so
in the Middle Ages after the Black Death
you would have entire towns break up
into dancing as the sort of mania or
people would become witches or people
would have demonic possession so
different society different
psychological Neurosis I have a friend
who was an anthropologist in Cambodia
for a bunch of years and the natives in
Cambodia they literally saw magic in
their daily lives so that's an example
they saw magic they believed in
witchcraft completely and that was just
an obvious part of their worldview and
that's something that separates us from
the past where every single other
Society in history and even people in
pretty recent history like Charles
Darwin Thomas Edison Nicola Tesla Carl
Marx Queen Victoria believed in the
spirit world belief in the spirit world
was completely common among educated
people until around
1900 um and so to just go through the
list the idea that history doesn't have
any lessons to teach us that's modern
men and women are the same uh that all
that culture doesn't matter uh that
genetics doesn't vary across differing
populations uh that human nature is
perfect that there is no Divine that
there is no Spirit World um that
economic progress is assured that we
that war will end in that yeah basically
that war is unnecessary where the past
had this very uh you could call it
realistic sense of the world where they
didn't modernity is motivated by this
concept that if we it right we can break
the entire game and win forever and the
rest of History would view that as
completely insane and I think one of the
the biggest things my channel talks
about is I think we are on the edge of
what I call the crisis of the 21st
century which is what I think will be
and it's easy to say that it's going to
be the bloodiest crisis in history
because in World War II just 70 years
ago the world had one quarter its
current population so it's very easy to
have the bloodiest crisis in history
when you have eight times as many people
as the pre-ind industrial world but I
think the crisis that we're about to
face in the next 30 Years will be the
bloodiest crisis in
history why yeah so I'm looking at a
bunch of different models here and I've
have a bunch of I've triangulated a
bunch of different equations to find
that we are on the verge of the crisis
of the 21st century and I think it's
going to be a global crisis so let me
tell you what the different things I'm
looking at one of them is that Peter
Turin is and Peter Z's also tapped into
this pretty well I think Zan came on
your podcast before uh if you got if you
know Zan you know one side of this and I
have a lot of respect for Zan I think
he's done a good job uh Peter turchin
pulling from David hack at fiser saw
that the world has these Global crises
every 250 years that can be predicted by
three variables in a computer model
plugging these three variables
retroactively historically off these You
can predict the years these crises
happen and what happens in each case is
that
there's Mass War famine the decline of
the global population and a change of
the social structure as there's
political disturbances in the Western
World the last example of this was the
French Revolution in Napoleon that was
250 years ago before then the religious
wars of the 1600s that killed a third of
Europe's population before then the
black death which killed half of
Europe's population before then uh you
have the fall of the Frankish Empire
that destroyed centralized government in
West W Europe and you can push these as
far back as you want to look you've got
the Bronze Age collapse you have the
fall of the Roman Republic and these are
predicted off three de three variables
and one of my favorite books ever is The
Great Wave by David hacket Fisher and he
uses inflation to predict this and you
can look at inflation rates to predict
when these crises happen but the three
variables are income inequality decline
in uh average wages and competition for
elite jobs these three variables can
predict when societies have revolutions
to the years they take place in because
the way this variable works is that you
have is all things end up leading to
their end as Aristotle said everything
ultimately culminates as Aristotle said
something's great strength will become
its greatest weakness when pushed to its
extremity
and with a period of peace and
population growth what happens is the
value between labor and capital gets
destabilized as the value of Labor rinks
the value of money to manipulate it
grows so inequality goes up so this
explains why the postor War II era had
one of the lowest inequalities in
recorded history while our era has one
of the highest inequalities ever
inequality today is easily in the top 5
to 10 worst periods ever in history
and thus what happens once the
inequality gets that bad and wages
stagnate because we have done literally
everything we could do to depreciate
wages we have have uh doubled the
population through natural population
growth since World War II we've imported
50 million immigrants and that's a low
ball number we've globalized to
countries like Mexico China Malaysia
that have lower labor value we've
imported women into the workforce and
they 75% of the population we've done
automation which is actually people
don't think about automation but it's
already probably the second or the third
most important variable there so we have
increased the supply of labor by 40% but
the demand we've increased the supply of
labor by 40% over what the demand is so
that's why wages go down it's why Homer
Simpson was a lower middle class loser
but he had a wife and kids his wife
stayed at home three kids owned his
house could to go multiple vacations a
year for upper middle class people today
upper middle class young people that's
Out Of Reach so the quality of life has
de declined precipitously since the
post-war period and this is something
the pop that we've been really
gaslighted about but you can look at a
variety of metrics between spending
power between ability to own a home even
stuff like height or Sleep Quality or
obesity and for example over history
whenever the average age of marriage
goes above 28 you're going to have a
political crisis so before the Black
Death people were getting married past
age 28 before you're not saying that
people getting married after 28 caused
the black de no humans what I like to
say is humans aren't design we're humans
are designed to breed first and be
rational later so what happens when you
pull out the incentive structure where
the society because we live in a society
where people are working too many hours
they can't afford a house they can't be
successful enough to attract a mate thus
their ability to reproduce declines once
the ability to reproduce gets weaker it
means people are to tear the system
apart because if you're screwed in the
current system you're going to roll the
dice to get a potential to get a
different outcome because if you're
screwed in the current route you have an
incentive to roll the dice with a
revolution or a political crisis even
though it means you could die because
that gives you at least some shot and so
what happens as inequality grows quality
of life decreases is the population
splits up into different subactions
based on the self-interest of different
groups so in medieval France it was the
Arman ycs versus burgundians in 17th
century England it was the
parliamentarians versus the royalists
and all of these underly some underlying
class or ethnic or Regional difference
where royalists versus Cavaliers was uh
the old nobility based out of Western
England and versus the capitalists based
out of Eastern England um and then you
have the whites versus the Reds in the
Russian Revolution the optimates versus
the populares parties and Republican
Rome and in us it's the right the right
versus the left and the right versus the
left underlies there's a couple
different correlations you can stack but
the one I go after most is college
educated versus uncollege educated every
single thing the left pushes makes the
college educated better off every single
thing the right pushes pushes mostly the
merchant class but also so uh religious
and Military interests and there's other
stuff you can stack like cities versus
countrysides male versus female high
agency versus low agency if you have low
agency at your work you're almost
certainly going to be a leftist and even
if you have high agency like you're a
small business owner or a farmer even if
you're poor you're going to be
conservative so this is the underlying
difference as times get worse what
happens is that people get desperate and
so they support their faction over the
uh centralized government because the
centralized government's not going to
give you any stuff you don't appeal to
moderates because the moderates aren't
going to they haven't done they haven't
done crap for you so you're going to
support a radical that supports your
self-interest and so the right and the
left have become further and further
radicalized until what I predict will
happen is that America will have a civil
war or revolution within the next 1 to 5
years and I can explain that more if
you'd like you are someone that spent a
lot of time thinking about alternative
history
iies what do you think would have
happened if Trump had been shot that's a
great question so the reason I've been
thinking about that and I I actually
predicted Trump would be assassinated
two years in advance because there are
four historic conflicts I use as
Parallels for our current ERA and what I
do is I look it's almost like string
theory where you can find certain
historic parallelisms and you follow
them and they often turn out to be true
those four historic periods are the
English Civil War the American Civil War
the French Revolution and the fall of
the Roman Republic with the fall of the
Roman Republic what happened is that
Rome became a great nation and conquered
the world and for those that or the
Known World from Syria to Spain and for
those that don't know Rome was a
democracy it had two political parties
that competed against each other the
optimates and the PES and from my study
I found that the PES are more so
Republicans and the optimates are
Democrats the the optimates were more so
the Roman deep State and had allies in
Rome's foreign Allied countries so in
the same way the Democrats have allies
in Europe or Canada or Australia the
optimates had allies in uh Greece or
North Africa or turkey and so what
happened was that Rome became this great
country and Rome imported a third of its
population as slaves and so the slaves
depreciated the local labor of the
Native Romans and so they fell into
poverty so income inequality became
absurd where you had men who were
equivalent to Zuckerberg or Elon Musk
who could buy entire countries then what
happened is Rome also saw a feminist
movement degradation of its moral code
collapse of its religion and collapse of
traditional Roman culture as the Roman
middle class died Rome spiraled into
immense political part polarization
between the optimates and the populares
and the groi brothers in our parallel
because there are multiple Cycles I look
at the largest one I know of is the
civilizational cycle in which America
parallels Rome very strongly and
and the groy brothers were wealthy
tycoons who operated off a platform of
make Rome great again they wanted to
reinstall the Roman middle class uh and
bring back traditional Roman values at
the expense of the wealthy Elites in the
Deep State what happened first is that
the poz um is that the optimate Deep
State they slandered the grakis and then
said that they were trying to make
themselves tyrants they couldn't run for
office but because they were trying to
destroy the democracy and make
themselves tyrants then when that didn't
fail they assassinated the gry brothers
what then happened is that the Poes or
their version of what I think are the
Republicans spiraled into Warlords and
so this is a great parallel for what I
think is going to happen to America I
think the right will crush the left but
the right lacks so little internal
ideological Unity that the right will
spiral into ideological Warlords who
will kill each other in the same way
that for the the Poes beat the optimates
and then inside the Poes were uh you had
various uh strong men like Augustus like
Julius Caesar like Marius Octavian and
uh the problem with both the Poes and
the Democrats is that they can't pull on
groups of fighting men because if you're
the the populares or the populists they
can get all these young Roman men to
fight for them by offering them stuff
but once you've alienated that you have
to rely on foreign mercenaries which is
what I think the left would do if it was
caught in an actually violent conflict
where they would try to build up a
military of people from Mexico or Europe
or southeast Asia or whatever so the
obvious thing that people think is
something like R the nice nice idea
lessons from history but we're beyond
that barbarism now you know we're sort
of an ascended species look I can
predict the weather in Venezuela
tomorrow and I can track what's going on
with global news and I've got air
conditioning and I've got a car to take
me around H the interesting thing that
you said at the very beginning is um
this sort of assumption that we've
mastered the world we've mastered social
movement social psychology human
psychology Health Science everything is
sort of within our control and if you
believe that then you don't need to
learn from the lessons of History
because you assume that you're sort of
out and apart from that what would you
say to someone that says yeah it's like
nice idea that that happened in Rome or
that happened in the French Revolution
or whatever uh I don't see the parallel
there's not going to be a land War we're
not going to see a kinetic altercation
between left and right in America that
that seems unbelievable I'm going to
answer that question but I'll posit
another question to you first if we
don't use history to study the world
what else are we supposed to look
at I don't know what I don't know what
people think that they're using exactly
so what I say is that if you're not
using history to study the world you're
making stuff up because the reason we
don't like this I said before the reason
people don't like studying history is
that you're expected to to be
accountable to it because there's this
shared truth and we've had people who
have been analyzing history from as long
ago as Herodotus the Bible IB kalun the
Chinese historians like siman and they
all hit the same point and we are
actually part of their narrative but we
can't explain their narrative and I'll
explain what that means where the reason
we don't want to do this is the left
which is one of the things I like to say
is that even conservatives are leftists
today because the left has built up the
modern worldview so much that even if
you try to escape the leftist worldview
you're still operating off leftist
assumptions I just brought up class
analysis that was something Marx
invented um the idea of equality being
good that's a Marxist idea the idea that
the government should help people push
for greater social betterment is Marxist
and so the left wants to project its
basically religious vision of the world
and the only way they can do that is by
destroy is by saying history is not
important and it's a Tale As Old As Time
inside history that wealthy eras get
arrogant where it's called decadence it
happened to the Greeks the Romans the
Indians the Chinese uh and we are
decadent and decadent societies thinks
they think they've mastered everything
they think they've accomplished
everything and then they grow weak and
then a new stronger faction emerges and
wipes them out so you can explain our
huous by being an extreme form of
decadence that we are the wealthiest
Society in history and thus we we are
even more delusional and what I would
say is that every single era to
differing degrees thinks their era is
special then you look back and no one is
special if you see these patterns going
back thousands of years and it always
comes back around and if we think we are
special and we're unwilling to look at
the dozens of times before we weren't
special that's legitimately a form of
Madness if you want to completely ignore
the outside evidence and then just
believe your inner truth that it fits
the definition of Madness
what's this got to do with Trump being
shot at uh you have to look at the
parallels
between the future and the past in which
things can get bad because they have
consistently gotten bad and so if you
choose not to look at it it's going to
to catch you in the dark and slit your
throat and I would say like because I
can talk at all these ideas I can talk
at the abstractions the the statistical
models but what I'd say is look outside
like go to Los go to New York City go to
parts of Austin and things aren't good
and then compare it to a photo re of the
1960s um look at your own personal life
look at the lives of everyone around you
uh most people are depressed poor lonely
sexless angry have mental health issues
most people's lives aren't good uh and
that's true on both a statistical and
anecdotal basis and furthermore in the
last month Trump was nearly assassinated
the Democrats had to pull Kamala out as
a candidate um and they sorry they had
to replace Biden with Kamala and there
have been states that have taken uh
Trump off the ballot uh there has the
last two elections have been disputed
and so for each case these are things
that have only happened in the previous
American Civil War and so just look
outside the things we've had enough
warning shots at this
point I'm not sure that I would agree
with the uh everybody's life anecdotally
is wor than it would have been in the
1960s I don't know enough specifically
about America 20% has it better 80% has
it worse it's comparable to dating where
what happened with uh income inequality
and various things is the top 20% did
vastly better and the bottom 80% did
worse so I'm using everyone
colloquially I see yeah I I don't know
maybe I'm not fornicating with the 80%
sufficiently well um but I I I I don't
know man I I understand what you mean uh
there is uh so C an awful lot of
problems whether it's coming from the
mate ins side whether it's coming from
economics whether it's coming from uh
real wages and what they can buy whether
it's coming from a a psychological
Health standpoint a psychic Health
standpoint
um but I look around uh me and I don't
only hang around with high futin sort of
super successful people uh and many of
those people are flourishing not only
that but almost all of them are in
relationships almost all of them are
getting married almost all of them are
having kids and they're teachers they're
Builders they plumbers they're [ __ ]
Uber drivers you know they're not that
homogeneous when it comes to being in
some super opelon so my sort of lived
experience is different that being said
I do see the data so I have this
discordance between what is being
reported to me and then what I sometimes
experience in my own life all of that to
say what would have happened if Trump
had been shot what would have happened
how would the world be different I
thought I answered that the right would
spiral in the factions where the issue
with the right today is that there's no
unifying ideology the right is a various
Coalition of various anti-left factions
um and so the right has Libertarians it
has populists it has uh it has uh theoc
religious people it has uh Boomer
consons uh fascists and the right is
held together by Trump's cult of
personality and I think this is
something conservatives have to be
careful about that Trump's in his 70s in
no timeline is he going to live for the
next few decades and so what happened
with the fall of the Roman Republic with
the death of the
Gris is that after the death of the
grois the riot re the basically
Republicans lose faith in the system so
you start seeing violence there's
In-N-Out violence um in which people
lose faith that the system has any
service for them and so they lose the
incentive to cooperate with others and
what would happen is I think that there
would be blood in the street if Trump
got sh shot I think uh various I think
parts of the military would Mutiny I
think uh various militias and stuff
would kill people there' be riots in
major cities I don't know how bad the
blood would be the death of trump is not
my first Target is not the one of the
dominant variables I would use to
predict a civil war but I completely
think that there would be violence and
the thing is even the reason the left is
or the
reason both sides are incredibly weak
now the Democrats and the Republicans
are not operating under strong platforms
and so
anything could knock them over at this
point and then inside them are various
subactions where the left's been eaten
up by wokeness which is this which is it
it just gets more and more radical each
time it happens while the right is uh
all these different subactions and so I
would guess and I'm just throwing this
out here you would see maybe someone
like an Elon someone like uh someone
like a Republican senator rise to a new
leadership and then you would compete
with other Republicans for dominance
inside the coalition
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wisdom how does this relate to your
predictions for a coming farri
backlash the reason I say that we're
going to have a far-right backlash is
the same reason that why I think the why
I think that we are going to have a
revolution because what I see now and I
I've looked at this through various
different ways is the elite now is
incredibly stupid and foolish and
arrogant and they don't know how little
they don't know meanwhile you have this
giant population of young men who are
very well-armed they're they have
nothing to lose um they're hopeless and
they can be easily manipulated and so
that's first two variables third
variable is that wokeness wokeness is
very poorly constructed because it
establishes no incentives for
cooperation if you're a straight white
man wokeness will never be nice to you
no matter what you do meanwhile they
can't control the behavior of the people
who are in their preferred racial or
ethnic groups where if you're a black
Muslim uh gay person everything you do
is fine they can't control your behavior
so wokeness has got a lot of structural
issues and I can't believe they did it
because they've pushed wokeness so hard
that it's basically built up this
obvious resentment against it and that
resentment is going to get loosened
somewhere and so to repeat foolish
arrogant Elite young white men and also
de and the economy have really screwed
over young white men so they can't
succeed in the current corporate system
and then you have a a suicidally
delusional ideology so it's like you
have two rooms one building up pressure
and one without enough pressure and
they're going to hit an
equilibrium so me and you have spoken
about this a couple of times before uh
my male sedation hypothesis versus your
incel far-right
Uprising uh give your um sort of insight
about where you think young men are at
at the moment mental health their desire
for Revolution and such I've had this
debate a bunch or not I've had this
discussion a lot of times and the point
that we've often ended up I'm jumping
three points ahead in the conversation
is that the conversation we often have
is what I say is most young men won't
want to fight there's small cadres of
radicals who will push for it and then
what happens is that those radicals the
people in charge so if you look at these
conflicts the Jacobin were the French
Revolution they were less than 1% of
France's population literally you could
look at the this is such a cool fact you
could look at the political subactions
of the French Revolution based off what
cafes they went to and kidding me no
really so different political radicals
in the French Revolution went to
literally different cafes in Paris you
could map out the F the political
radical factions based off what streets
the cafes they went to were so you're
operating off groups that are that small
the Bolsheviks where they won the
Russian Civil War they were all
Communists were 3% of their population
and the Bolsheviks were a minority of
that uh the the the Puritans who won the
English Civil War they were 10% of the
population the American Revolution no
one wanted the American Revolution 5
years before it started and then it just
got ratcheted up over time so I like
when people ask me Rudyard what are the
different subdivisions inside the right
I say most people have no clue what's
happening most people um don't know
what's going on they don't really have a
concept of uh of what's going to happen
next and then you have these factions of
radicals that jockey and before the
English Civil War people said the
English have grown too weak to fight and
this was in the 1600s it had been over a
century since England had a civil war
what happened then is that the the
royalists and uh the parliamentarians
they just conscripted people same thing
with the French Revolution same thing
with the Russian Civil War the normies
don't organize they don't say let's have
a riot for normies let's push normies
normes forever the radicals organized
and then they conscript the normes so
most of the population can just want to
play video games and do Sports what you
need is you need to have small factions
of radicals that are capable of
conscripting the normies what was that
stat that you came up with 20% are
motivated 60% will do whatever somebody
what's that thing so I pulled that from
Game Theory where uh it's a bunch of
different things where in Game Theory
you've consistently found uh and this is
i' I've I've studied multiple Game
Theory studies on this in general 60% of
the population will do what the group
tells them to do six and so uh we have
various Game Theory studies one is do
you contribute to the the pot or do you
take away 20% of the population always
contributes even if against their
self-interest 20% tries to cheat
whenever they can and then
60% tries to um just does whatever the
group consensus is and for certain
things like will you put up the sign in
front of your house if for various
studies if you can change the
neighborhood consensus that will move it
60 points so if the neighborhood
consensus says put this sign up 18% of
people do it if the neighborhood
consensus changes it moves up to 88 it
moves up to 88 78% yes yes um and and so
most people today are in onwe they don't
know what they really want they don't
know what they're really doing what's an
onwe for the people that don't know oh
yeah uh onwe is a French word for a lack
of comprehens a lack of connectiveness
to your world and a lack of feeling
connected connected to uh your life it's
like an existen po anst it is yes yes
and so most people don't know what's
happening because the the the 2010 mind
cannot comprehend our world and most
people are still mentally stuck in 2010
and I like to say that the way I would
explain uh I would explain life today to
my teenage self is I would say we became
a Sci-Fi dystopia but most people can't
reach that conclusion and so they're
kind of stuck in this Middle Ground so
our current period per perod is a period
in which all of these factions are
squabbling over who will become the
dominant culture in a way that's
comparable to the Jacobin squabbling
among other French radicals the
Bolshevik squabbling among other
Russians uh various we're in the
building up period And as Lenin said
there are hours in which decades happen
and there are decades in which nothing
happens and so history works you don't
realize it's going to happen until it
slams you in the face like the start of
World War I or the fall the Soviet Union
uh and this is just how things happen
tensions gradually build up if you're
the kind of person who looks for the
stuff you see it otherwise you can your
life then just hits you're really
stretching my uh historical and
imaginary uh imaginative abilities just
trying to run forward with your idea of
um sort of how easily swayed certain
people are certainly 2020 Summer of 2020
we saw a lot of people I think get
involved in uh victimhood narrative and
identity politics that probably wouldn't
have done Rec previously uh probably
didn't actually have that much Insight I
mean we've seen it when you go to these
protests and people are chanting from
The River To The Sea and they say which
river which sea and they don't know what
they're talking about you've seen the
same thing anytime that you push groups
on the far right or the far left to
actually understand what they're talking
about it's pretty evident that most of
these people are just holding on to the
coattails of a movement that they think
is the right or righteous thing to do uh
so I actually do see even from my
experience I do see that kind of uh
domino effect this Mass domino effect
happening where only a small few groups
at the start can uh rally many
Downstream what do normal people believe
in I have no idea exactly what I've told
so one of the takes I've made is I think
this war will be the bloodiest war it'll
be fought horribly I think there's going
to be purges I think people will burn
cities down and I was talking on another
podcast I said why do you think that and
I said if if you can't actually there
are no deep values that are imprinted in
people wokeness is very I call it mask
morality it's this very exit it's this
very uh performative morality that
doesn't actually require that you change
your character and I said that this is
this is one of the great ironies that
removing a Christian value system and
replacing it with subjective
postmodernism there something people
don't realize that is what got to the
Nazis are Stalin because once you think
everything's subjective and uh
everything is according to
interpretation you don't have an
argument for killing people for your
goals you don't have an argument for
killing millions of people to reach
Utopia and so I think normal people when
they don't believe in anything they are
capable of doing absolutely horrible
things and like to bring back a question
you asked at the start of the podcast
the reason I think this is possible is
because the bloodiest events in history
the bloodiest Wars the worst genocides
the worst slave states in history
happened within living memory you could
call up people who were at the Holocaust
or who in stallin gags now and do you
think we've really changed in the Gen in
the lifetime
since so I think you know my position
has been for quite a while and I've put
this to you too that there is just so
much sedation of the populace
specifically the cohort that you're
talking about through porn through video
games through social media and screens
that there is this uh sort of mass opium
this um copium copium indeed uh and I my
I mean [ __ ] hell me laying the uh
sanity and safety of the future of the
West at the feet of porn websites video
games and social media doesn't exactly
sound like a glowing review but I do
think that there is so
much it it could be so different that
it's no longer just a difference of
degree it's genuinely a step change
difference in kind of what we're able to
do and able to uh sort of calming down
this U Rising uh desire even when many
other people are out there doing it
because it involves getting out of the
house getting dressed utilizing the
latent executive function that you
haven't ever used why do you think porn
would have a strong enough effect for
that to work I think that porn is able
to curtail men's desire for reproduction
not satisfactorily but I think it is
able to at least stop them from uh
feeling what in the past I mean what was
that example from Portugal I'm pretty
sure you taught me about that the first
son got to marry the second third and
fourth son they were all put on gallion
ships go explore the new world or what
would they doing they were trying to fix
the sex ratio that um that basically I
think that it gives a tight rated dose
of sexual satisfaction to Men Who
without that it would be one more you
know just one more thing the same as I
don't sit at home and wonder about
whether my life has meaning I've got
Netflix or I've got Xbox Live or
whatever I don't go out and sufficient
time with my local cohort of friends to
actually create a little revolutionary
group that can go and push over granny
and set cars on fire because I'm busy
watching uh social media and why do you
think porn is a strong enough effect to
do
that uh not on its own to be able to do
all of it I think porn has a
sufficiently strong effect to be able to
sedate men's desire for women just that
men are largely mechanical creatures uh
the fact that you can look at a 4in
across screen and see a naked woman and
your brain tell your lyic system some
sex is about to happen you can look
around the side of it you know that it's
not real and yet it's able to kid you
it's just so easily fallible uh that I
think it's enough or it has been thus
far enough to keep men satisfied
unsatisfactorily yeah I'm 23 so I know a
lot of the people in the demographic
we're talking about explicitly and I
think that for a part of men that's true
I think human nature isn't like that
though I think human nature is not that
stupid where if people don't actually
have I think the subconscious is very
deep if people don't actually have
reproductive options if they don't have
pride if they don't have self-respect if
they don't have the ability to move
socially I don't think they can trick
their minds through various distractions
and I think the easiest example of that
is the cripplingly bad mental health
issues because the the mental health
issues are a sign that
subconsciously
um we just can't trick ourselves and I
would agree with your thesis if this
wasn't hitting Elite aspirant men
because if you get a deg and it's a
multivariate thing uh it's not just a
dating crisis it's uh not being able to
get a good job cost of living being too
high I think it's 10 different things
that pile up and if it was just the
dating crisis we wouldn't have this but
the other things add up too um it's
I think all of that adds up so that um
it creates enough of a sense of
desperation among Elite aspirants men
that you would that you could have this
the example I'll give is remember the
Columbia protests no not Columbia Bogota
Columbia New York City no um so these
were really remarkable to watch and
people often ask me Rudyard how come you
think the right will get this crazy and
the reason I say is the left got this
crazy already and if you looked back for
the things that let the left get this
crazy
it's a lot less bad than what we're
facing now and
um and colia protests these and the
thing that really shocked me is I'm the
same age as these kids and so I know
that they went through like seven years
of indoctrination against the Holocaust
the second they get out of the school
the second they get out of the Cradle
they're immediately shouting like antia
into from The River To The Sea so that
means the programming is very weak and
it also it was crazy because I've
studied the history of Communism and
they're they're speaking communist
Communists have verbal ticks that you
can that they use to signal to each
other that other people don't know and
so they were saying all the Communist
verbal ticks they were marching in ranks
they were saying um we you must always
keep the revolution in your hearts um
that we must destroy the Imperial core
and the left is all projection so when
the when they said the right only speaks
the language of genocide what they were
really saying is we want to do that and
the I was watching another Columbia
student who she was saying and she was a
young black lady she was St she was
talking to a camera where she said I'm
not a violent person but if a Zionist
were to get in my way I don't know what
I would do and that's and looking at her
body language it was just horrifying and
so I think most young men can be sedated
I don't think you can trick the human
subconscious into through surrogates
because our current mental health
demonstrates that doesn't work and even
with that with the dating issues I think
there's enough other stuff that's piled
up where the human mind and we we we
ascribe rationality to the human mind
which isn't true humans also care about
pride and dignity and social status and
that stuff and I think wokeness by
itself it humiliates young white men
enough to build up resentment for it and
I spend a lot of time on right-wing
Twitter I know people say Twitter's
Twitter's not real life but I would
argue Twitter in some ways is realer
than real life you have a guy just like
a guy that spends all his time on
Twitter would say let me explain this
some ways exactly because let's say you
you know a nice guy at work and he posts
farri propag far-right stuff on Twitter
the thing he him at work is this facade
he puts up well the thing he posts on
Twitter is what he actually believed did
you ever read everybody Lies by Seth Ste
that's a great book Yeah so basically
the the thesis is that people tell
Google things that they don't even tell
their partner their friends work or
sometimes themselves you know they've
got this weird lump on the back of their
ankle that they've not allowed to arise
in Consciousness for ages but they'll
give it a quick Google so from
aggregated depersonalized Google Search
terms you can work out all sorts of
things you said that so uh I have a
buddy he does really interesting stuff
he ha he runs Ai and has systems where
he can look at how you like move your
head how you twitch your hand and from
that he makes a four Factor yian model
of your
personality the most rard Lynch [ __ ]
friend I've ever heard okay go on um yes
and so he also studies the verbal
language of the internet and we're
hitting basically sociopath
sociopathic uh we're hitting sociopath
levels on the internet and keep in mind
the general populace doesn't have to do
this stuff just small groups of radicals
I can definitely say that there are
large groups there are large small
groups of radicals who would definitely
do this and just like we would agree
that this stuff on the left we would
agree that there are people on the left
who want to do this and I I mean what
I'd say is look at the ruling class look
at uh the Democratic party was trying to
take Trump off the ballot um the news
constantly lies uh Des like look let's
go through all the the big content
creators Destiny said it was okay he
wouldn't be against killing
conservatives vouch said progressives
should get guns to fight against
conservatives um you've had uh Hassan
[ __ ] has uh defended houthi Pirates uh
on the right like you we know that Nick
Flint this is the stuff he's definitely
not against um and so these are these
people repeat back to their audiences
what their audiences want to hear so I
fruggle to find a single institution in
our society that is not on the a single
a single institution that reflects the
public consciousness of the
population that's not uh just in a
really really scary place now so are you
saying the people who have some of the
loudest megaphones have the extremist
voices they have those extremist voices
because it's what the people want
they're reflecting and I'm a content
creator I know how this works where you
as a content creator I like to joke I'm
married to my audience so I tried to
maintain a good relationship with my
audience because we're stuck together
I'm a College Dropout like it's I have
to make this work and
um and and so the content creators
normally have a pretty good
comprehension about what Their audience
wants to see and they're very into this
so if all of these content creators are
saying violence is okay that means it's
what Their audience wants to hear and
it's a I've given like 15 different
proxies it's yet another proxy for the
public wants
this yeah I think there's definitely
something interesting
about
the displeasure and the sort of disgust
that some elements of the far-left have
with a big chunk of the West which is
white guys you know if you're a white
man uh you are the very very bottom of
the victimhood hierarchy you get no
points at all uh you had this quote
which I really thought was interesting
don't gloat over your conquered foe it
gains you nothing and makes the
conquered more dangerous yeah and that
to me is it is um indicative of of this
really sort of well actually just
explain that quote to me like why what
why was that so interesting I mean if if
you look at the history of Empires it's
obvious like if you want to conquer
someone you need to kind of have a
relationship with them it doesn't have
to be a good relationship but let's look
at the British Empire as an example when
the Brit when the English subjugated the
the Irish and the Scottish they gave
they they gave them social status if
they fought for the Empire you could be
an Irish or Scottish guy go to India and
you'd be treated like an English person
that was a way to get rid of all of the
aspirational aggressive young Irish and
Scottish guys with the Romans if you
were part of if you they conquered you
you were a sharp Young guy they would
let you into Roman culture and so when
you conquer someone you still have a
relationship with assimilate in some
exactly um and the left the left always
really shocks me because their complete
lack of strategy is insane where
um they do not look at the the left's
great strength is the ability to
manipulate people where they can
especially women the left has like 10
different hooks in the in the collective
psyche of of women that they can pull
from to get them to do what they want
they're horrible at Grand strategy
though and it's really shocking where
they just set up their entire
Coalition that their Coalition building
is really bad which is I could explain
that if you'd like and so they've
established no incentive for white men
to cooperate inside the system and they
keep on ritually humiliating them I
don't think this would be this bad if
the lefts didn't turn every single
Vector of culture into ritual
humiliation of white men even if they
just let Hollywood not be woke I think
that would it would make things a lot
better but normies can't not ignore
Hollywood and I'm going to throw this
point in here we're at a point where the
Western the government the
democratically elected governments of
the West are purposely committing
civilizational suicide if we've Rel
reached this threshold and we can't talk
about it something's very wrong where
the governments of the West they're
doing a lot of them are doing degrowth
the degrow industrialized economy
they're bringing an immigrants not out
of economic self-interest but to replace
the local population
um they are trying to they're trying to
like de o over regulate the economy
they're trying to get rid of uh Western
Heritage and Western culture and even
destroy statues uh of the West former
leaders the point of this is not some n
it's not some sort of warped
self-interest it's suicide we are a
civilization that's openly committing
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uh one of the three morning takes from
Pirate wies today talking about this guy
that's coming up with uh technology is
it sulfur technology that they spray
into the atmosphere to reflect the sun's
Rays away so basically we can Cil uh
some of the effect of carbon emissions
in the atmosphere when global warming by
getting up above the carbon reflection
and reflecting it back before it comes
down to the Earth and this has been
loudly loudly denounced by all of the
pro green environmental movements and it
was the theory on pirate wires the
reason for that is that it cuts off at
the knees the degrowth movement yes
exactly that's the so I was talking to
some people I know and they asked me do
if they're from the Northeast they said
do Texans feel guilty for using air
conditioning all year and I said no
chance it's a non-negotiable for this to
be an industrialized civilization if
Texas didn't have AC we'd be having this
conversation Pennsylvania or California
um and it's a vital system exactly yeah
and um and so the crazy thing is that oh
yeah so the reason they're pushing
against air conditioning and air
conditioning do you explain this further
you could nuke the entirety of
Northwestern Europe and it would have
negative it would have little effect on
carbon emissions the thing that really
is pushing carbon emissions is China and
India installing a 100 factories every
second 100 coal powerered factories
every second if you really cared about
fixing the climate you would build
nuclear power France or Hungary are
mostly driven off nuclear power uh but
the point and I just released a video on
the unab bomber and the thesis I say
with the video is that there are
psychological pre pressures implicit to
Industrial civilization that we don't
understand that create psychological
issues which um which mean that people
are actively pushing for the death of
civilization the reason I think is I
don't think humans this is a whole
different tangent I don't think humans
evolved to live outside Villages I don't
think humans evolved to live in cities
and away from the earth and so I think
it creates weird psychological pressures
and it's not a coincidence that the
places that have been industrialized for
the longest such as the northeastern us
the Netherlands Britain are the places
they're trying to commit civilizational
suicide because I think industrial
civilization we haven't figured out the
cultural compatibility with it in the
same way that for the invention of
agriculture 10,000 years ago looking
through the archaeological record we
find there were very rapid fluctuations
in population population goes up crashes
by 80% goes up again crashes by 60% that
happened a couple times as agriculture
was inventing because people didn't know
how to deal with an Agricultural Society
I think that what do you think happened
what causes so many people to pass this
is this is super cool so uh you know how
the when the Europeans came to the new
world uh they
the diseas has wiped out the natives the
reasoning for that is that the from the
period between 10,000 BC and 5,000 BC
the Europeans or eurasians started
dealing with domesticated animals like
cows and pigs and almost all of our
diseases are from domesticated animals
and so what happens they living with
them very closely is
that you get all these diseases so C
agriculture was invented in 10,000 BC
the first cities were around 4,000 BC
the world's population was stagnant even
after the invention of agriculture long
term because we were hit by so many
waves of diseases that we didn't evolve
for so the eurasians went through this
disease gradient that wiped out the
Native Americans who didn't have
domesticated animals in the 10,000 BC to
5,000 BC period so I would say disease
is the biggest cause but we also know
that there were agriculture was spread
by genocide and so it's very difficult
to get a non-agricultural population to
take in agriculture and so uh like the
middle easterner genocide
a lot the Western half of Asia against
the native peoples but we have
archaological records that the native
peoples could launch the native hunter
gatherer peoples were able to launch
counterattacks that could wipe out
hundreds of miles of of farmer land so
there was a Nate we know from
archaeology there was a native
Confederacy in Scandinavia that launched
a genocidal War across Poland and
Germany like 7,000 years ago that is so
cool what so just you know touching on a
topic that seems quite timely at the
moment when we're talking about
population decline
birth rates at the moment how do you
fold the current declining birth rates
into this discussion I was hoping we'd
get to this um do you know Mouse
Utopia assume I don't okay great um so
Mouse Utopia and this is one of my best
videos for people watching um Mouse
Utopia was a study that was run 30 times
in the 60s and 7s and the way the study
works is that you drop nine mice in a
cage that can hold 6 th000 mice with
perfect conditions then what happens is
that the mice population balloons
there's uh infinite food no Predators
perfect climate no disease and then and
they were doing this at the time
because this was the era when the
world's pop the world's population went
up five times over in the 20th century
and for reasonable reasons they were
worried about what the effects of that
would be and then past the 2000 Mark and
again that's onethird the carrying
capacity bizarre things happen the mice
stop the mice split up into different
subcategories of antisocial Behavior you
had autistic mice who couldn't socially
interact you had sociopathic mice who
would kill the mice that would continue
to breed you had the beautiful ones who
would just groom themselves all day but
they would never breed you had female
mice who refus to to mate and they just
hang out isolated you would homeless
mice who would wander around the center
of the colony allowing themselves to get
beaten up uh and you had a the M the
mouse social structure completely broke
down and then the birth rate crashed to
complet zero as the mice lost the
ability to have communities or socially
interact with each other how much have
we as humans with frontal loes got to
learn from the social structure of m yes
so The Mouse and the human brain
structure is diff is similar except for
one variable that being the free the
prefrontal cortex as you teased out
where we have the amydala and we have we
have the lizard and the mammal brain and
those control for automatic functions
how we process uh fear or horniness or
jealousy or happiness or excitement we
process that similarly to like a dog or
a horse or a cat because uh we have the
same lizard brain and the same mammal
brain so automatic functions and uh
emotions are comparable across mammals
now finally the thing that we do have
that the mice don't is we have a vastly
enlarged prefrontal cortex which is the
ability to plan and think and
abstract um and that's what allowed the
creation of human
civilization and with mous Utopia you're
seeing fundamentally hormonal changes
where the mice aren't rationally
thinking to themselves
um that I don't want to have kids I hate
everyone around me I'm going to be
depressed um the mice just act on
impulse because the hormones change and
it's comparable to people with mental
health conditions or who catch diseases
we humans um you could let's say catch a
horrifying disease tomorrow and then you
would it would completely change how you
feel the world on a personal basis our
minds are not buffered from the world
and so we would see the same hormonal
changes as the mice but we would have
the ability to think about them
abstractly but what I'd say for Mouse
Utopia is every single thing in Mouse
Utopia has already happened it's just it
hasn't fully played through its
logic what is the underlying Dynamic
that caused that to happen in Mouse
IA I don't understand why you get to
onethird the carrying capacity of a
perfect environment and all of these
weird side effects like what's media is
there a [ __ ] spirit that gets in
there and goes oh there's they hit the
2,000 thing time for the Ethereal Mouse
Poltergeist to go in and make everybody
crazy what's the dynamic what's going on
it's hard to say I mean if you look at
the fall of Rome as an example uh it's
unclear what caused the fall of Rome
where people it's often a RAR shock test
for what you care about you can say the
fall of Rome was caused by change in
military structure uh civilizational it
Rome civilizational cycle ending uh
climate change population decline uh
decline in values uh Etc and so complex
historic events it's often very
difficult to figure out what actually
caused them like why did gasan become
such a great conqueror I could give you
10 reasons I don't know which one is
accurate and mouse Utopia is comparable
where the guy who ran the experiment
calhon he did the same 30 yeah he did he
did 30 together oh so he did them all at
the same time no no so he did he did
over a very long period of time and he
did 30 experiments understood yes and so
he after doing all the experiments said
that it was lack of agency uh that the
mice once they lived in a perfect world
that was overcrowded they stopped
feeling like they could actually go out
in the world and do things and it's very
comparable to what Ted kazinski said the
issue with modern civilization which is
oversocialization uh dig into that for
me you this is my last video as well so
it's pretty topical the Unabomber said
that industrial civilization would
either collapse or we would use genetic
engineering to change humans into cogs
over the course of the 21st century for
those that don't know the Unabomber was
terrorist in the 199s
and he the reason he did his terrorism
was to get the message out so that
people could deal with it but what the
unibomber said is that the complex
interconnected system that is industrial
civilization is
so difficult to get to flow together
that you need to have the individual
sacrifice lots of their animal nature
and lots of their individuality to get
the system to work how so I'm going to
use an example I did from the last video
um there was no concept of employment in
the pre-industrial world everyone was a
renting farmer and they worked for
themselves and in the F in the
pre-industrial world the family was an
economic unit you uh your wife
uh your your father was your boss you
worked with your father uh your mother
helped manage the economic system that
was the family you knew everyone around
you in the pre-industrial world society
was a community of people you know every
single service whether your religion
whether your insurance whether your
military defense whether your your
people you work with uh for your uh job
they were all people you knew it was a
community and so the idea of splitting
people up into all these different
subcomponents of of their lives it
wouldn't it didn't exist back then and
now modern civilization is a bureaucracy
I like to say a normal person knows
significantly more bureaucracies than
they have friends where there's the
bureaucracy that handles waste there's
the school there's your work etc and the
thing with bureaucracies is you can't
build up intimate social connections and
um so what happens here is that
because Society gets atomized and split
up due to the way due the sheer scale of
industrial civilization it means a
person has to wear their mask all the
time they can't be authentic they have
to wear their mask with their boss they
have to wear their mask uh often with
their families uh with their friends
there's no and we've consistently found
and all the great big universities like
Harvard and Columbia have studied this
the most important component for
happiness is social connection and
so that would have significant social
effects that we wouldn't even mentally
process it's not a dish it's the main
course and another one of the most
interesting books I've read is uh the
history of manners by Norbert Elias and
it's a history of manners in the Western
World from the Middle Ages until the
present and the fascinating thing is in
the Middle Ages um if you wanted to cook
something you would cut up the animal
carcass in front of your friends in the
Middle Ages it was completely normal for
friends and family to have sex in front
of each other Knights would write poetry
how much they loveed The Act of Killing
um it was it was a society where
like there was no concept of privacy and
those are things that we find disgusting
in our society because we deal with so
many people we don't know that we don't
want to see people we don't know do
those things and um and so the argument
that the unibomber made and this is this
is really crazy where the left Societies
in collapse normally push their worst
trait even further and that's a
fascinating historical Trend where when
the Aztecs knew they were going to die
as a civilization they killed more
people when the Nazis knew that they
were going to lose World War III they
killed more Jews when the Muslim World
realized the European colonialists would
wipe them out they became more
conservative and so what the left did
upon dealing with the underlying issues
of industrial civilization is that they
doubled down on using social engineering
to control people if you're a leftist
you're not allowed to like your country
you're not allowed to be possessive in
romantic relationships you're not
allowed to want to kill people you're
not allowed to be chauvinistic and
naturally push your own self-interest
you're not allowed to use magical
thinking or believe in the div the
Divine um where if you look at the
left's worldview and I know lots of
people like this people who are just the
inner Elite or the low-level Elite of
the managerial class is completely
socialized if you look at someone like
let's say a local uh bank branch manager
or someone who works in the bureaucracy
of Google they are people who can't
change out of the corporate America
setting they don't show a wide variety
of emotions they don't think things
they're not told to they do whatever
their Elites say uh they believe has
that not always been the way has it not
always been the case that you've got
chattle class that just does what the
the elites expect of them and want to
model what their betters are doing it's
the degree of control I mean everything
when one of things I like to say is
everything is a matter of U of of range
and so the range is everything um the
degree of socialization we have now is
completely unparalleled where you look
at the left the left wants to shut down
Human Nature they they they want to push
for a society where you don't have kids
where you don't push for your nation's
self-interest um and all the things I
said before and so there are differing
degrees of control and I don't think
it's that much a it's not a top down
control it's not the Soviet Union where
if you don't follow orders the pullup
Bureau shoots you it's more so that
through the process of education and
socialization we have an incredibly
rigid social code that doesn't have
place for human nature we'll get back to
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SL modern wisdom a lot of criticis M of
the left uh and perhaps rightly so what
is the right getting wrong mostly in
your view what did they face hunting
around that's a great question um
the the video I'm writing now is the
anthropology of the left the video I'm
going to write next is the anthropology
of the right and so I study the left and
the right as if they were tribes in the
Amazon of the Congo I look at the
demographics that formed them their
philosophic assumptions their strengths
and weaknesses um the right has no no
shared coherent ideology the right
doesn't Thomas Soul has said that the
right is whatever the left isn't so if
you look at conservatives you have the
Taliban you have Libertarians you have
Nazis you have monarchists you have
religious fundamentalists you have uh
classical liberals these people share
nothing except the left's coherent
vision of the world the future is
whatever the left says and the
conservatives build their worldview off
a past that never really existed and and
and so there when we're talking at the
right we're talking at different
factions I think the Boomer cons in the
old school right are are frankly like am
I allowed to swear in the show of course
oh yeah they're cucks like the Boomer
consons are cucks um they don't go hard
enough they don't have any concept of
what's going on the world um the new
right are sociopaths uh the Christian
right is
delusional
um yeah you can just give me factions
and I can criticize them well it seems
to me at least looking at good portions
of the right maybe more sort of the uh
manosphere right the sort of young men's
movement there is so much [ __ ]
cynicism it is it is a very uninspiring
movement to be a part of exactly I say
the biggest issue of the new right is it
the biggest issue of our entire Society
is it lacks a soul there's a wonderful
book by an orthodox Theologian that says
the modern world is divided between
those who numb itself to its
meaninglessness through various
substances and various Hedonism and
those who realize it and go crazy
every
exactly yeah I just you know that when I
look at a lot of the even the sort of
more right leaning content at the moment
even the the hopeful messages are guised
within a you have to do this because if
you don't do this then everything's
going to go to [ __ ] like your
hopefulness is kind of delivered at the
end of a barrel of a gun yeah yeah
exactly um and
yeah it's just depressing and like the
thing I see with a lot of the new right
is it's just it's very cynical you're
right it lacks any sense of inner
authenticity or inner truth and it's
funny the people who tell you to be
authentic are the least authentic people
in the world um some random redneck from
my hometown in Pennsylvania is much more
authentic than a person who says Be Be
yourself love yourself be authentic um
and and uh yeah it's it also gets stuck
on weird points where uh like this is a
big issue we've lost the ability to
change settings and so the new right
obsesses over a couple different topics
um like abortion or the Jews or physical
fitness uh or just hatred of the left
and they lose the ability to the bigger
picture and they're upset every Ideology
Now is hyper materialist and that it
only sees things from their material
good and it lacks any concept of the
inner soul or character of things um and
yeah I mean I think that it's a lot of
desperate people who look for some kind
of Hedonism as a way to get out of
desperation because they don't have a
better idea yeah I wonder what the
combination of extreme
cynicism with a fractured fragmented
sort of inner group is I'm always really
cautious this is one of my I've got four
rules of how you can tell if a content
creator is being honest and truthful one
of them is is there group bound together
over the mutual hatred of an outg group
or the mutual love of their in group yes
and I think I see an awful lot of both
sides their identification is we don't
know what we are necessarily but we know
that we're not that and that is the
other side yes exactly it's why for my
channel I've said that the the value
that I try to build my channel around is
honor because I said the left the right
now is based around hatred of the left I
say a lot of the factions of the right
are adjust there rationalization for
killing people and I think that's going
to end up in a very bad place so you
need to create an active value and so
why it's why I said uh we stand for for
when I released one of my videos I said
honor truth and freedom I think those
are important values and it's I mean I
think that we're in a winwing event for
Content cre political content creators I
don't think 80% will make it in the next
three years I think we're going to see
not if this [ __ ] 2024 keeps going the
way it is dude I think that the last
four weeks has been the highest revenue
for the guys that are like balls deep in
the political daily Wyatt for instance I
would wage your money that they have
made more cash in the last month than
they will have ever made before damn
that's cool um but what I see with a lot
of content creators is just they're
having horrible mental health issues or
they're having serious they're having
like uh so you had uh Hassan he had his
Breaking Point with where he thre threat
to kill himself uh vou had his uh pedo
uh Scandal Destiny had his scandal about
um about uh Whatchamacallit again you
know what I'm talking about saying that
you're allowed to shoot Trump voters the
daily wire had internal drama uh I and
back in my head I've got a list of like
10 of those you could throw like there's
probably three times as many but I think
that uh I think that we are we are in a
critical three-year window in which the
world both for content for politics for
our nation will change very much in the
next 3 years and it's comparable to do
you remember the world before covid yeah
briefly kind
of it's not the same world as today and
I remember uh I think in music and in
2020 there are different songs I use to
symbolize different mental States I have
so I want to change how I think I change
the music and so I have a song in my
mind that's symbolic for the age that
came before and I remember listening to
this in 2020 and I thought to myself I'm
going to listen to this song now knowing
that in the future I will look back on
this and realize that this time is gone
but I didn't know what will come
next right okay yeah again another very
you thing to do one one interesting
Insight just going back to the right the
anti-intellectual culture yes that they
have at the moment what's the role that
you see that playing cuz it I don't know
it seems to me that that's kind of a
shitty thing to embody it is yeah um
my thing here is that the managers and
the experts have really screwed over
people over the last 40 years I have a
text wall where I talk about 10
different ways the experts massively
lied uh one saying that fat is the end
all Beall of uh health and that sorry
you should just cut out fat don't care
about sugar cause massive issues when I
was growing up we had the food pyramid
the food pyramid said you needed to have
carbs the most of anything and that lean
meat was bad for you that's example one
saying men and women are the same that's
a massive expert lie saying genetics had
no Val has no value I'm from
Pennsylvania my part of the country got
hosed by
de-industrialization and then the
experts all said we're going to get you
coding jobs we'll make sure it's fine
Philadelphia now is a lower population
than it did in 1950 um besides that I
mean there was this whole like
neoliberal globalist project that
everyone said would bring about Utopia
and brought out the opposite and I could
find 30 examples where the experts have
just massively lied and I think
a lot of the right is people who don't
have high enough a lot of most of the
world is people who don't let me back up
I like to say that if you're not an
intelligent person there's a couple
strategies you realize that you are not
intelligent so you try to figure out
someone more intelligent to model your
behavior off um and so if you're in that
category which is not as genetically
intelligent and you've realized the
people on top keep lying to you and you
don't know or trust anyone who's more
intelligent who has your best interest
in mind you're just going to hate them
as a demographic that's interesting yeah
I previously would have followed a group
that I could reliably uh use as a way
marker for me to track my future I don't
necessarily have the agency or the time
I'm so busy that I don't actually have
the opportunity to do the reflection
that's needed so I'll Model Behavior of
those people but this massive loss in
trust in organizations in media in
science you know like just trust the
science now is used
ironically uh so yeah that's that's
interesting and we're seeing you know a
good bit of this Candace Owens had her
well is the world round is is the Earth
really round or is it flat because I
don't trust and that's taking this to
the you know the absolute most extreme
tuer Carson sort of re bringing
creationism kind of back to the front
well you know Evolution we've got a lot
of questions that we need to ask there
it's almost like I I believe that these
people kind of believe it but I also
know that they can get away with the
troll because it is the tip of the Spear
of a huge shaft which is all of this
anti-intellectual scientific skepticism
yeah we lack wisdom and the wise man
doesn't know what he doesn't
know what about the left how did the
left end up getting so feminine in that
way why are there no strong masculine
figures standing with the working class
that's really a great question um so in
the video that I I'm writing now and I'm
uh going to release in the next week I I
split the left into the Western left and
the Eastern left the Eastern left is
Marxism the Western left is our left it
goes back to the French Revolution and
so you have a thinker you have there was
a thinker in 1820s or 1810s France
called Saint Simone Saint Simone pushed
for uh using liberating the third world
to launch a revolution in the first
world the destruction of sex and trans
he pushed for uh the creation of a new
man creating a religion of science where
you built secular rituals to uh worship
the experts um and the breakdown OFA and
the make creation of complete equality
so everything in the left today you can
find in French thinkers from the
revolution 200 years ago um that you can
view a tremendous amount of the current
left as a resentful spurned lover
against the working classes because the
the aim of the working classes was
largely to get more money and the left
saw the working classes as this wedge to
get them into power and the leftist
elite is all either basically academics
or Thugs and this was earlier communist
the Communist Elite was either academics
then when the academic then when the
revolution worked the thugs killed the
academic Stalin and Castro and Ma were
literally like Bandits for parts of
their lives um and what happened with
the spurning of the working classes is
that the left redirected towards women
and women were a demographic that was
easier to manipulate and socially
control and so one of my I just read two
incredible books about this one is the
Leviathan and its enemies by Sam Francis
and the other one is uh is the total
state by Orin McIntyre and both of them
are books on how the ruling class
controls the population because I'm
going to make a video series talking
about the mechanisms of power and they
both call the leftist elite foxes and
foxes are the kinds of people who
manipulate through cunning they're good
people at running systems they're good
people at getting inside the levers of
bureaucracy itself it's comparable to
when an Empire Falls it's there's always
uh either a child Emperor or an old fool
surrounded by Unix Haram girls and
bureaucrats our Elite are Unix Haram
girls and bureaucrats and so the left
went through the left because the left
doesn't like using actual physical Force
thus their levers of power come through
manipulation and that came that's
indirectly a lot of the scop stuff and
the ological manipulation comes from
advertising the people who made the
advertising industry were the exact same
people of the people who made propaganda
during the world wars World War I
created the advertising industry for
that reason and so the left is able to
use women and psychologically manipulate
them and women agree to this because the
state can fill the void that the that
men used to be so the state can support
can keep you from being attacked it can
feed you with welfare um it can make
sure you have good health it can give
you insurance so the state was able to
make and the bureaucracy was able to
make a a bargain with women where in
exchange for us replacing men you give
us unquestioning loyalty in exchange for
your freedom from the patriarchy and so
that's the calculation that's going on
and the problem is that the left is
desperate and they can't renegotiate
that they're they're pushing up against
the end of their lever and so they're
stuck pushing this equation and this
bargain more and more to desperately
maintain power and they lose the ab lack
the ability to form a new
Coalition yeah that is interesting
what's the role of multiculturalism in
this yes um
so the modern supply chain is very
complex and it's very large this shirt I
I think it's probably made in Vietnam uh
it it's designed in I don't know Europe
made in Vietnam now we're in Texas
so the globalization of the economy
requires a tremendous amount of
cooperation by different nations and so
that's reason one Global globalism
allows and multiculturalism allows
greater AC AC ACC creation ACC creation
of wealth uh by large multinational
companies second reason is that by
watering down the West's culture and the
West is the most individualistic Society
ever they can dominate their own
populations only by taking an immigrants
from elsewhere and by making globalist
values do get rid of those pesky Western
values vales like pride and freedom and
uh in individual rights and so it's
inside the self-interest of the elites
to uh push for globalism either to
weaken the strength of their enemies
inside their own countries to get value
and strength from other countries or
from uh the ability to cooperate
transnationally more easily does the
globally interconnected world and the
fact that we are so Multicultural does
that change any of the Dynamics that you
were looking at previously so this is a
great question and it brings up I think
one of possibly possibly this is my best
video it's not the one that I look back
upon most fondly but this is probably my
best video modern civilization because
one of the angles I look at is
civilizational analysis and I study the
strength and weaknesses and the origins
of Western Greco Roman Chinese Indian
civilization and I found that starting
around the time of the world Wars you
saw something that looked independent
from the other civilizations where if
you go to Egypt or Italy Egypt
especially you can look at the Persian
the Greek the Roman the British the
Islamic architecture and you know that
that was a different civilization with a
different idea after the world wars
block architecture took over the world
these concrete square blocks they don't
symbolize anything uh when I briefly
lived in California I'm from rural
Pennsylvania in rural Pennsylvania most
people are white Christian they look
they wear European style clothes they
live in European style houses they have
a European political philosophy
California clothes aren't European most
people aren't white they don't have a
Europe they operate off postmodernist
political philosophy they're not
Christian they wear clothes invented in
California so implicit in that is the
creation of a new cultural formation
that I call Modern civilization and Sam
Francis has said that the managerial
class is trying to create a new
civilization independent of Western
Civilization similarly to how the
Communists launched the cultural
revolution against the uh old Russian or
Chinese civilizations so the elites
trying to make a new civilization the
problem is that new civilization doesn't
stand for anything it doesn't have any
Deep Roots it can pull from so it's
doomed to
fail it seems interesting to me to think
about you know we talking are we in
posthistory are the lessons of before no
longer applicable now and you know one
of the things whether it be science
technology sort of social order this
kind of belief that we all have in the
back of our minds that were no longer
driven by the same things that drove uh
Rat Utopia Mouse Utopia uh or our
previous history and I do wonder how
much of a
hedge or how stabilizing it is that
everybody is so interconnected from a
sort of global
perspective that we don't want to cause
too much of Ruckus or that other states
are going to step in to be ballasted you
know what I mean yes so there was an
author named Angel before World War I
who made that exact same argument before
World War I Angel's argument is that the
global economy is interconnected enough
that there's not an incentive to have
War the irony is that statistically it
produces the opposite the more
interconnected a system is the more
likely it is to break down and that's
why do you think that is so there's
something called complexity Theory and
complexity theory was used first for
traffic jams and then we later used it
for the Bronze Age collapse where once
you have throw more complex variables
into an interconnected system one of
them can go wrong and then it spreads
across the system for example the Silk
Road tied Europe together in the Middle
Ages but then that meant that the Black
Death could spread from China to Europe
in a 5-year period um and what happened
with the Bronze Age collaps and this is
something people forget about is the
world the Middle East in the Known World
3,000 years ago was pretty Advanced you
had cities you had markets you had
writing you had like a in system uh all
that stuff Advanced governments but they
were dependent upon long-distant trade
where it's funny the the regimes in
Syria they would Source tin from Britain
because it so tin is a vital
subcomponent of bronze the only way that
they could Source tin was from Britain
and Afghanistan so very complex system
what happened in the Bronze Age world is
that once one country fell apart the
entire Bronze Age system fell apart the
Greeks fell apart the hites fell apart
the syrians dead there were similar
collapses in India or China and what
happened in World War I was that the
system was very complex but it also
created
competitivity where the reason World War
I happened the British and the French
were scared the Germans would out
compete them the Germans were scared the
Russians would out compete them so
inside that globalist market system came
competition and a greater degree of uh
of strife and so
uh I I mean this argument's been used
before I don't think we often project
our social attitudes onto other
countries where we're a very Market
focused very wealth focused Society but
look at China China just shut itself off
from the world you Western journalists
aren't allowed in China they've been
just stealing money from people they're
killing millions of weers China just
shut itself off from the global economy
and they made that for political
calculations before and people thought
that was impossible because from the
Western in mind you're thinking they're
trying to get their people to be more
Rich right and the Chinese were thinking
no we want to stay in power and so we
shouldn't assume that we shouldn't
assume that all the players involved
have comparable motivations to
us one of the interesting stats that I
learned was the increase in the use of
the word racist or racism in the New
York Times I think it was from 2008 to
2018 it goes up by this absur it's like
42 times increase or something like that
uh perhaps unsurprisingly all of the
data suggested that real racism had been
declining and then we've seen in the
last two to three years or so at least
for me being exposed to stuff on the
internet uh way more latent
anti-Semitism yes than I ever knew
existed yes and you know I I I don't I
wasn't around that many uh Jewish people
growing up Jews don't have that same
kind of uh foothold culturally in the UK
that they do in the US yeah but I did
live near I think one of the densest
Jewish populations outside of Israel uh
which is just North of the river TI in
wait in Newcastle you're from Newcastle
well like uh is the is the is the side
the other side of the river it's like
Bamberg what's the name of it bambra is
bambra bambra is one of them yes but
Gates head and just a little bit above
that is where this particular area is
what do you lay the sort of recent
increase in anti-Semitism at the feet of
yeah feels like Kanye's [ __ ] fired
the starter pistol and just been going
from that I'm glad you brought that up
because that's something I've seen and
and I exist in conservative spaces where
it's just ugly now like the racism the
sexism the homophobia whatever it's not
good and I think like I I really dislike
the sentiment the left did it and thus
we have to be the opposite of the left
it's very reaction because the left is
so accepting even if it's only
performatively of these things yes the
left is that therefore we are whatever
the opposite is yes um yeah in baboon in
baboon colonies uh if one Superior kicks
an inferior baboon that baboon will kick
a further inferior baboon pecking all
exactly yeah and it's the displacement
of aggression and people's lives suck
now and so they look for a scapegoat and
the Jews are a convenient scapegoat and
there is there there's an element of
Truth to everything where Jews are
disproportionately leftwing they are
disproportionately in positions of
Authority so they make an easy scapegoat
because they so if you want to scapegoat
the Chinese Communist Party good luck if
you want to scapegoat Islam again good
luck um what you mean when you say that
why good luck
so if you're one of those content
creators like censa or law that like
constantly criticizes the Chinese
Communist party you get a lot of crap
for that like the chin you don't want to
be enemies with Islam or the Chinese
Communist party or the American deep
State the Jews if you criticize the Jews
uh most people don't know other Jews uh
I don't Jew the Jews are in this sweet
spot and this uncanny valley that
they're powerful enough to be a
scapegoat but they're not powerful
enough that you're actually threatened
by scapegoating them does that make
sense and you go back to history and
this is man this is something I'm
researching I've got like a 2,000 page
reading list because I'm I'm looking up
je I'm reading up on Jewish civilization
because I want to make the definitive
answer on why the Jews get persecuted so
much and what about uh whatever the
situation is that justifies that but I
mean this is super common it's
like like anti-Semitism is just
incredibly common over history it's just
a continuation of the pattern the thing
that shocks me is like I was Fed so much
anti- Holocaust stuff as a kid that it's
crazy that the the the that the
programming was so skin level it wasn't
sticky enough to stick around yeah I I
remember this Family Guy sketch where
it's these Jews that are helping to
build the pyramids and they're being
whipped by you know one of these
Egyptians as they're going up and the
one that's carrying the first big brick
turns around to the guy that's behind
him and he says all nations have to put
up with their amount of persecution us
Jews are getting ours out of the way
early after this it's just going to be
clean sailing and it's so right because
you think my God like this is a
particular group of people that just
keep on being on the wrong end of a
whole host of like pretty sort of nasty
outcome yeah this is basically
historical fanfi but uh I I sometimes
imagine because we know that Abraham
existed because all the descendants of
Abraham um we've traced everyone who
claims descend of Abraham and they have
a shared Y chromosone in that place that
time so I do wonder is like historical
fanfic If Abraham made a deal where in
exchange for suffering the Jews could
create so much stuff because suffering
allows greatness and so it it it kills
off the weak people makes you push
harder and you look at the Jews uh
they've produced Christianity they've
produced Judaism they've produced uh
Einstein's physics Spinosa was a Jew
Marx was a Jew and it's crazy to see
this population where they've suffered
so much but on top of that they've
produced so much and those they're
they're the same
variable what are your thoughts on Nick
fent oh did you hear my recent beef with
him you had beef oh yeah so I released
my most successful tweet ever came out I
sent it out last week and I called him a
Fed it got 3 million views and I
detailed all the reasons why I think
he's a Fed give me the portfolio give me
your proposal so um the short answer is
I was looking at his various
self-interests and I realized the the
calculations he was making were not
actually um the calculations he were
making were not what made sense for him
so he targets all the other figures
inside the hard right which doesn't
really make sense unless he's a Fed
because You' think these would be
coalition Partners instead what he's
doing is he's targeting the the he T
targeted menes moldbug Bronze Age
pervert zero Lovecraft um I think
there's some evidence for sbra he's
targeting all these people many of them
for being Jewish but it these are the
kinds of people that could genuinely I
mean I don't agree with their ideas but
I respect that they have intellectual
grit and um
and then on top of that he portrays the
hard right in the least sympathetic
light possible he is openly a um he's
openly a uh tradcath incel um
anti-democracy Holocaust denying fascist
so if I was in his shoes I would say yes
I love democracy but what we have now is
not real democracy I support real
democracy for the people and the only
way to have real democracy for the
people is that do centralize it in the
hands of a leader who can represent the
will of the people that's what I would
say if I was him I would not say those
things because so he make he attacks
other right-wing thinkers He makes
himself look very bad uh he got off
really light for j6 which you'd think
that the legal Court the legal system
would go after him punitively um
where the legal system would go after
him punitively because he's exactly the
kind of person who they'd like to make a
symbol out of uh but no he got off very
light uh and I think what happened is
that I don't think he's like genetically
a Fed I think it was something that was
forced on him in exchange for not going
to jail where he I think he genuinely is
a conservative but I think he's forced
to do some stuff in order to to not go
to jail that is a serious conspiracy
theory I suppose as well regardless of
what you think about his politics he's
not a total stupid person no that's what
I said at the end of the tweet I said
that I could tell his mind works very
quickly but the things he say doesn't
match the speed of his mind I can look
at him and I can see the gears are
moving very quickly but it there isn't
an alignment between the external show
and his underlying conscience does that
make sense so what what does that
portray to you for certain people you
can look at them and you can see a kind
of unity of their character in that from
front to back they're the same person um
and when I see a disjoint like that it
means that there's because whenever I
talk to someone I get a Vibe do what do
I know about this person what don't I
know for a lot of people I get the
impression there are three important
facts I don't know and so when I see a
disjoint like that what it tells me is
that his underlying motives are not what
the external appearance is I've had a
couple of conversations with people that
are like that it's one a while ago and
it's done this big episode and we you
know we sit down and we have this chat
and then we finish up and there was this
uh moment where I sort of paid a
compliment at the end and there was a
flash on the face of this sort of chain
in this sort of narcissistic inflation
this sort of ego came out and then
really quickly like it sort of clamped
down and it came back over the top and
that was the most disturbing part of the
whole episod and I thought oh okay that
that that one you know3 second element
really betrayed yeah everything frankly
this is not a very trustworthy
trustworthy industry I think content
creators are significantly less
trustworthy than the general population
well the thing that drives anybody to
seek Fame and Status at the expense of
their sanity for the most part probably
not a particularly uh healthy psyche
inside yeah one of the things I guess
maybe that a lot of people might be
feeling after this conversation is well
[ __ ] hell Rod thank you for that you
know very sort of fatalistic nihilistic
cynical view of the future I know that
you try and have worked hard both for
yourself and for your audience to uh
come up with uh rules and uh worldview
and uh strategies to
actually be hopeful and to kind of
counter a lot of the bad advice that's
given to young men yes where do you go
to for that given all of the potential
chaos and the future and it's all going
to be hard and blah blah blah what
what's some sort of firm footing what do
you rely on when it comes to this
discussion that's a good question uh in
eastern mysticism and Hinduism and
Buddhism and stuff there's this concept
of do not look at the association your
mind makes of things um let's say you
feel sad just focus in the feeling of
being sad don't make it don't think
about what it reminds you of don't think
about what you what your mind
immediately jumps to and so the Mind
naturally makes lots of things that it
doesn't actually relate to the thing
that you are directly speaking about and
so I just told I tell you what I believe
to be the truth I tell you this because
I see it as my duty to tell you the
truth um what you choose to do with it
is your choice um and what I I think
there's no right answer for everyone and
whenever people give advice to everyone
I don't think it's useful because
everyone's so different so whenever a
friend asks me for advice I say what do
you like to do what are you good at what
do you better Visa V everyone else look
for the asymmetric Advantage so I'm not
going to give your entire crowd advice
because I don't I don't know who you are
random guy listening in Florida um and
what I will say though I I have a couple
different things I say
um the first is that just live your life
like one of the things I tell myself is
the world could go to crap but I'm still
gonna I'm still here to chill I'll still
do cool events I'm still going to do
what I want to do I'm still going to
make friends travel to places read new
books that doesn't have a bearing on the
outside world like you you read about
Winston Churchill lived through so many
horrifying Wars but he had a great life
um same and that's what I think you can
do and what I would say is try to find I
think religion is the biggest thing that
helps people with this stuff when you
have a grounding in the world
irrespective of the outside world it's
like it's like you have this you have a
soul and once you have a soul you have
an ability to have a differentiation
between the insanity of the world and
yourself and what I also what I tell
young men especially and I gather your
audience is probably majority male is
what are you willing to die for because
for men to have something worth living
for you need to have something worth
dying for and so if you're dying in a
ditch what cause do you want to be dying
in a ditch for and so figure out your as
asymmetric advantages figure out what
you want to die for find some kind of
spiritual grounding and um and I mean n
said don't get stuck in the house of
morality and this is something I see
with a lot of creators especially
conservative creators they're so stuck
on hating the left assume the left is
completely evil just for this one
sentence argument what's next if the
left is evil what do you do next and
that's my answer for this and I went
through uh upon realizing these things I
went through like a a one or twoe
grieving process where I had to think
okay because people say like it it's
weird or schizo to be obsessed with
politics but no politics is life if it's
World War II and it's differing to gree
politics isn't life in 1984 if it's
World War II you're dying in a ditch in
Stalingrad politics became your life
these macro political became your life
and so my assumption growing up was that
we would live in this John Hughes
Simpsons America where you go to college
and you get a good job and then you get
married and I realized that wasn't going
to happen so I thought to myself what's
next because if that's not going to
happen what am I going to do next and
over time I realized I prefer this to
the old life it's
better it's better to play to play a
difficult game and feel your heart
breathe than play a boring
game yeah I think you know this so much
about the advice that's given to young
man which is perverted
the difficult situation I I mean you
both agree on this uh wildly unpopular
uh among most of the people that are
sort of male content creators which is
that the crisis of femininity and the
sort of female uh impending sort of
female psychological problems are maybe
going to at least compete with what guys
are suffering with at the moment yeah
yeah I agree um that's something that
you and I uh are in agreement on and I
actually think women have it worse than
men uh in that I think women are more
dependent upon their community and
society and thus uh if that goes bad
they lose they have less of an ability
to handle the toughness or adjust than
men and like every single girl in the
age of 25 I've met has at least one
mental health condition at this point
it's a game where I try to guess which
in advanced and it's just it's crazy
that there's an entire I mean Zoomers
are split between 20% who are very
effective and 80% are ineffective and um
I mean I think there there's enough
suffering in the world why do I have to
add more like I mean women are suffering
men are suffering the poor are suffering
the rich are suffering uh having a
competition like that it's one of the
very odd things about that that I was
thinking about as I was doing some
research this morning for this episode
is that the framing of sort of uh
intersectionality victimhood hierarchy
that is heavily criticized by guys on
the right is also used by them to say
well yeah but women don't have it as bad
as me exactly yeah and I've lived a
bizarre life and so I've met a lot of
different people rich people poor people
famous people not famous people
everyone's got a person everyone's a
person everyone's got a soul just
because someone has an identity that
that's not your doesn't mean they don't
have a soul and the thing I can't
compromise on is that once you start
treating your political enemies like
they don't have souls that's just evil
bad things are going to happen and
um and and your victimhood argument is
interesting where the further right you
go the more psychologically you end up
like the left in a bunch of different
ways do you want me to explain so uh the
far right and ironically they were the
same movement until around 1850 and then
they were both part of the Revolutionary
movement then you had National
revolutionary ISM and then you had
leftist revolutionary ISM so Nazis and
Communists were the same in the early
19th early 19th century and so hard
right uh obsession over your social
status obsession over blood um lack of a
concept of a soul uh the idea the
government should run Society ideas of
manism or everything is good versus evil
um ideas of revolutionary ISM um you
have I mean the the Nazis and the
Soviets both had gulags they killed
different people but they both had the
death
camps and what about the left what's the
equivalent far left oh yeah it's the
Communists I mean uh the the the
far-left equivalent they they also think
the government should run everything
they also think that uh your birth
determines uh who you are if you're born
upper class you're part of the bad guys
if you're born working class you're a
good guy um they also don't believe in a
concept of the Soul they both believe
that uh if we kill an outgroup the world
becomes perfect that's either the Jews
or the capitalists uh both don't see the
world as an organic living place they
both really don't have a concept of God
either um and it's funny that the most
hard right Christian the most hard right
guys are philosophically the least
Christian people in the political
Spectrum where the left and even the
Techno Optimist they take a lot of
implicit Christian assumptions the
hard-right fascist guys are the least
philosophically Christian even though
they often say I'm hardcore Trad cath um
so yeah they also think that um
they they're both authoritarian and they
both think that in order to achieve
these they're both often
rationalizations for killing people
too where would you send somebody if
they said this is kind of interesting it
sounds like you've had a non-typical
education what are some of the books
that you think would be good for me to
read that are accessible for somebody
kind of stepping F into this world the
uh if you want to learn history as a
person who's not a historian the best
book to read is the invention of
yesterday by tamim msar um that's a book
that looks at history from the
perspective of What ideologies people in
different societies use so it explains
how an ancient Greek person saw the
world how a communist saw the world Etc
atrocities by Matthew white is also very
good it's a history of the world from
the perspective of the top 100 bloodiest
atrocities in history very helpful no
it's actually great because it's not a
biased narrative and you realize damn
lot of history happened in medieval
China uh because most histories are
written like we are going towards
progress this is our agenda top 100
atrocities just death is the Arbiter
it's a pretty objective look at human
life um and then my favorite author the
author who I keep on like pushing up is
amori duror amori dakor was a French
orientalist of the World War II era and
he wrote several he's made five
intellectual jumps that are absolutely
brilliant one of which is said he wrote
book sex and Power in history which how
the relations between the Sexes inform
the rise and fall of civilizations uh he
wrote The Eye of Shiva which compares
the teachings of modern science to
Hinduism and how the Hindus 2,000 years
ago reached a lot of similar philosophic
conclusions to modern science uh the
coming Caesars is about uh the parallel
in America and Rome that's where I got
the groy stuff from and then he wrote
The Soul of India and the soul of China
which is about the mental system and the
character of Indian and Chinese
civilization looking at some of the
summaries of his work not perhaps the
most accessible in the world how easy
did you find that stuff to get through
oh uh I was going through a comment se
you you can just go on Amazon and order
it or albris I mean how uh accessible
was the book how easy was it for you to
read and and retain so he's not a
particularly difficult writer um no he's
he's a pretty clear writer um I mean it
depends no yeah I think a normal person
would be fine reading that okay if it's
normi approved that's good R Lynch
ladies and gentlemen dude I really
appreciate you where should people go
they want to check out more of your
stuff you should check out my channel
what ifal his and I have a second
Channel called history 102 with Eric
torenberg yes exactly thank you so much
for having me I appreciate you man you
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