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Why Do We Stay In Bad Relationships? - Alain de Botton

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Alain de Botton challenges the modern narrative, often amplified by social media culture like Instagram, which frames breaking up with unsatisfactory partners as a heroic act of liberation while staying in bad relationships is viewed purely pathologically. He argues that this binary view overlooks valid reasons for remaining in challenging situations, such as the desire to grow together or make progress within a relationship. De Botton emphasizes that healthy partnerships are not devoid of conflict but are instead defined by "rupture and repair," where couples navigate breaks and fix them, much like the Japanese tradition of *kintsugi*, which honors cracks with gold lacquer rather than hiding them. This perspective suggests that relationships require resilience and the ability to mend after inevitable crashes, countering the simplistic notion that one should always immediately flee from difficulties. The speaker also addresses those who lack the courage to leave unsatisfactory but non-abusive relationships, urging society not to shame these individuals as deficient or ill. Instead of adopting a dismissive attitude toward their fears—such as being judged by others or never meeting someone new—we should acknowledge that finding certain life challenges difficult is normal and offer kindness rather than judgment. De Botton critiques the unrealistic expectation that everyone can easily discard "awful" people to enter a promised golden relationship, noting that we do not choose whom we love in many ways. He compares our internal emotional architecture to physical structures like buildings; just as one would not demand an architect instantly remove a wing of a complex building without understanding its structural role, we must respect the stubborn nature of deep-seated feelings and attachments even when they seem irrational from the outside. A significant portion of de Botton's argument focuses on how early childhood experiences shape adult relationship behaviors, particularly in people-pleasing tendencies or an inability to give up on others. He explains that these traits often stem from survival strategies developed as children trying to manage volatile parents; for instance, a five-year-old cannot simply abandon an abusive parent due to a lack of resources and legal access, so they learn to suppress their needs to survive. These defensive neurotic structures were once clever adaptations but can outlive their usefulness in adulthood, causing individuals to prioritize others' emotions over their own well-being long after the original threat is gone. Rather than shaming adults for these behaviors, de Botton suggests honoring the younger self's ingenuity and thanking them for carrying us through difficult stages before gently guiding them toward letting go when circumstances have changed. When it comes to ending a relationship, de Botton advises against silent disappearances or vague explanations that leave partners to fill the void with dark imaginations of hatred or humiliation. He asserts that while breakups are emotionally devastating—comparable in severity to death and warranting a period of mourning similar to Jewish traditions where spouses wear black for a year—it is crucial to explain reasons kindly, generously, and without shame. Relationships often have an expiration date once they served their purpose of carrying individuals to the next life stage, and recognizing this allows both parties to say goodbye with clarity rather than cruelty disguised as kindness. Furthermore, he cautions against immediately trying to be friends or staying in constant contact after a breakup, arguing that such actions can hinder the necessary healing process required for two people to recover from an attachment rupture before potentially rebuilding any connection later.
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a lot of people have problems breaking up with someone even though they they might not make them particularly very happy yeah why do people get stuck in unhappy relationships in that way um there are you know I think the the mood of the modern world the mood of modern Instagram I've observed is all about or ditch them Chuck them run away it's it's a pure pathology you are you are sticking around someone's suboptimal for purely pathological reasons um that's got to be true in some cases it is definitely true in some cases but because it's so well known nowadays that that's true let's stick up for the other side um sometimes it's hard sometimes we we stick around very challenging situations because um we want to try and grow together we want to try and make progress um and sometimes we can sometimes we can't so you know it's a balance I don't want Advocate you know an endlessly unfulfilling relationship but but good relationships will be marked by a heavy dose of whaty psychotherapists call rupture and repair a break and a repair um and the ability to you know the thing crashes at night but the next morning it's fixed you know our friends in the East you know the Japanese tradition of kins sui fixing that that bowl with golden lacquer fixing the break it's a very very important and satisfying part of all relationships um yeah yeah what about the what about the people who are in a relationship but don't have the courage to leave they probably have this they feel stuck sort of stuck in this unsatisfactory not abusive not terrible but just they have that fear pulling the pen making that move you know you talked about primary secondary emotions let's not shame these people right let's not add to their woes that they are deficient and Ill in some way um they're finding something very hard and that's okay let's bear with how difficult it is you know again I it I I'm frustrated by the modern temper which is like get out shoot the awful person you know and and join the liberated Uplands maybe maybe and maybe that is what they're going to do but you know let's be very thoughtful about why they've ended up there let's not you know this might just be they might find hundred things in life quite easy this is what they're finding difficult and let's acknowledge that let's be very kind to that um and let's hold their hands through it you know why what's what's difficult for them is it that they think that um they'll be judged by other people right what what's the fear what's the fear I'll be judged by okay how does that fear Stu up with what might really happen or I'll never meet anyone new okay let's think about that let's not immediately say oh you will maybe they won't you know take it calmly Etc I just I'm really resistant to some of this narrative which is you know get out get rid of the awful underperforming people and get into that golden relationship that's been promised to you in heaven it's not you know that maybe the direction of travel let's just acknowledge the bumps yeah I think it's unrealistic you know there's a lot of people who just don't want to make a fuss that there's this sort of fear this question is it fair to want what I want you mentioned before how do people that from the outside you go why why her with him why him with her why why would that Union happen and um we don't get to choose what we love in many ways you know absolutely not we are we are you know we we think we've done away with the arranged marriage no we haven't it's just become an emot Ally arranged marriage internally arranged rather than arranged by our parents yeah I think uh again for the cerebrally uh predisposed you kind of rail against that why can't I why if only I could can you not get in line with you please all of the things they're there in front of me they they have the and and we get literally irritated and and just to be able to understand it it's it's like saying you know why can't Mount Everest be small why can't the sky be less blue whatever we're trying to change a constituent element of reality and and I think we need to have as much respect for the inner architecture as we do for the outer architecture you wouldn't look at a building and go I just want to get rid of that Wing immediately you you'd understand that it was incredibly difficult it's the same thing just because it's intangible doesn't mean it's not incredibly stubborn and hard you know it's hard to change do we need to uh build create the capacity to give up on people in that way does that help um yes I think some of us do you know the you know again it's life's all about finding what's the thing that what's the lesson that you need to hear so there are some people um not everyone but some people really need to hear um a little lesson about how sometimes they should give up on people that sometimes making excuses for people or trying to understand where people are coming from Etc it can go too far that that those very nice traits can go too far and that the next best thing that you need to do is to be able to say goodbye without too much regret that might be the lesson that you need to do and let's remember the people who on the whole find it very hard to give up on people are people who couldn't give up as children can't on parents who are very unsatisfactory you can't expect a 5-year-old child to give up on a parent so a parent can be beating the child every night and the child will think oh maybe it's my fault because the child cannot bear to give up on the parent and do the thing that would be natural to do which is to say I'm in the hands of an abusive parent you can't do that when you're five you got no access to lawyers youve got no money you can't go anywhere you are trapped and therefore you become a world expert in not giving up on people but some of what adulthood requires is precisely the opposite sometimes getting perilously close to people pleasing here uh and that sort of tendency to put other people's emotions y ahead of our own make their emotional state our responsibility if you're not okay I'm not okay okay how how can we better alchemize that and understand that that tendency I mean look let's remember so the psychology of the so-called people pleasing person is someone who no one tried to please for themselves right in other words they were in an asymmetrical relationship probably with a caregiver or parent who um didn't care about their feelings they didn't prioritize their their needs Etc and they had to adjust to to them so you know if you've got a parent with a volcanic temper where anything might set them off well what you say or think is going to Disappear Completely because all you're going to be doing as a child is managing the mood of a parent they will be an infant essentially and you will have to be in the parenting role and you'll have to put aside your needs and um children are great Geniuses at reading the room and doing what needs to be done to survive it's a survival strategy I will become a people pleaser not in order to annoy people in later life but in in order to survive in order to get to the next stage of existence in order to reach adolescence let's face it and um the problem with in this as in so many other neurotic structures is a very good idea outlives its use and so it's still operating in circumstances where it's no longer needed so what we need to tell what the what the people needs to tell themselves is it was amazing at the age of five I cleverly worked out that I needed to people please in order to cope with my intemperate father but that Situation's now gone and if I keep doing this with my partner with my colleagues Etc it's going to annoy everybody and it's going to create serious problems um so what needs to be done is that person shouldn't feel shamed they should be made to feel proud there should be a little ceremony where they're able to say to their 5-year-old self thank you thank you little whatever it is um thank you for carrying me to a later stage um and working out something so clever and this this applies for all defensive neurotic structures I mean let's imagine somebody who can't feel very much who's invulnerable doesn't open themselves up to other people and in relationships that person may be shamed oh oh so and so oh they they they're afraid of intimacy you want to go okay shaming this person is not going to help you have to ask a another question which is in what circumstances did their current behavior make sense first question and there it always will make sense you go back in time and you say right in those circumstances of course it may you know your father was dying your mother was absent of course it made sense not to feel anything you would have been destroyed by your feelings therefore very clever five sixy old you to work out that it's best not to feel problem is you're now 35 or 45 and there's lots of reason to feel because there's someone loving nearby or there's you you've got children or whatever um and therefore we need to say thank you to the younger self and then we can move on but shame is not going to do it to to wag a finger and go oh another one who's afraid of intimacy that no one ever changed like that yeah the uh realization that doing that internally being a tyrant to yourself also isn't necessarily the best way to encourage you into Behavior change whipping yourself into submission yeah it's it's it's missing the logic of of why you're doing what you're doing as I say so much of what we do as adults makes no sense even to us you know why am I worried every morning again ask yourself the question it's a key question for your viewers listeners um when did the current behavior which now doesn't seem to make sense when did it once make sense in what circumstances did this pattern develop this pattern that is now in vertom mad or destructive or boring or counterproductive when did it make sense and if you can start to see a logic again there always will be one I I would suggest there almost always will be one there will be a moment when to feel anxious every morning was bound up with your safety in your survival to the next stage of life so if you can recover contact with what that stage was you'll then be in a position to honor the defensive strategy but also say goodbye to it what are some of the uh best and worst ways to tell somebody that it's over in a relationship um look one of the worst ways is not to explain at all why something has come to feel necessary in other words just running away and leaving someone no sense because that then leaves the person to imagine everything and most of our imaginations are dark places in this Regard in other words we think that someone hates us boundlessly or is trying to humiliate us or deliberately want to be cruel to us or Etc and in many many cases I venture to say most cases when someone leaves someone it isn't those things it's the truth is the truth is better than we think it's still tough you know it's very very tough um you know those attachment ruptures uh in everyone's life they're of the most painful things we will ever have to go through to to to build a life with someone and then see that life disappear I mean we need we need space to mourn you know in in Judaism when someone dies you lose a um a spouse you you're allowed a year of mourning you're allowed you wear black and you have allowed a year of mourning where not too much is expected of you both professionally and personally you can go a bit mad and that's all right everyone looks after you they know you're in mourning we kind of need that when we're heartbroken when we're serious because we're dealing with something that is from an emotional point of view as serious this is as serious um as a as a I mean this literally is a loss someone has died you know and um so we need we need that space so so come back to your question how to break up um to to be able to explain diplomatically kindly generously some of the real reasons why and as the person who's leaving not to feel that those reasons not to be ashamed of those reasons you know people feel relationships don't have to go on forever sometimes relationships have a cell by date they are there they were formed for a particular purpose unconscious to to carry us to a next stage and maybe that stage has come to an end for for someone and we can explain that we can try and you know verbalize that um but also Clarity and sometimes people try to be kind in ways that end up being very very cruel um I want to leave you but but let's go on holiday together really that is that a wise thing or um I w't leave you but you know let's be in touch every day you know and I'll just still call you what I used to call you you know when we were very intimate that's tough that's tough so we may you know couples May out of kindness out of mutual respect go you know there's still a lot of love there still a lot of affection but probably shouldn't be in touch that much for a little while you think a bad idea for exes to try and be friends um look it depends but I think I think you know there needs to be healing doesn't there there needs to be um a break that's marked and honored so that two people can um recover in other news this episode is brought to you by function did you know that your annual physical only screens for around 20 biomarkers that leaves a lot of gaps when it comes to understanding your health which is why I partnered with function they run lab tests twice a year that monitor over a 100 biomarkers they even screen for 50 types of cancer at stage one they've got a team of expert Physicians that takes that data puts into a simple dashboard and gives you actionable recommendations to improve your health and lifespan they track everything from your heart health to your hormone levels thyroid function plus Dr Andrew hubin is their scientific adviser and Dr Mark Heyman is their chief medical officer so you 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