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Why Defunding The Police Was Such A Stupid Idea - Coleman Hughes

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Looking back at 2020, Coleman Hughes argues that the collective reaction to George Floyd's death was driven more by a desire for performative empathy and signaling than by an accurate understanding of systemic issues. He suggests that many people felt compelled to apologize or make reparations without grasping the underlying reality, leading them to implement policies like defunding the police based on incomplete information. A key factor in this misperception is the American media ecosystem, which rarely reports on similar incidents involving white Americans; for instance, Tony Tempa died under circumstances nearly identical to Floyd's—knee-on-neck and loss of consciousness—but his death received almost no attention because he was white. Consequently, when such events occurred against Black individuals, they were viewed as isolated examples of racism rooted in slavery rather than part of a broader pattern that also affected other demographics. Hughes contends that the movement to defund the police disproportionately harmed the very communities it aimed to protect while simultaneously elevating Black elites who did not face similar risks. He cites a 2020 Gallup poll showing that only about 20% of Black Americans wanted less police presence in their neighborhoods, with 80% preferring the same or more; yet, defunding proceeded anyway despite this clear public sentiment within the community itself. The result was catastrophic: 2020 saw the single greatest year-over-year increase in homicides in America over the past century, a surge directly linked to mass police retirements and de-policing strategies. These excess deaths were not evenly distributed but heavily concentrated in poor, predominantly Black neighborhoods where law enforcement presence had been most critically needed. The speaker highlights a profound irony that many supporters of defunding failed to recognize: wealthy individuals living in gated communities with private security details often advocated for gutting police forces specifically designed to serve impoverished areas. Hughes points out the hypocrisy of people displaying "defund the police" placards while relying on their own private protection, illustrating how empathy toward a video clip can override rational thought and evidence-based policy making. He references his conversation with Joe Rogan regarding this contradiction, noting that such behavior represents a disconnect between one's opinions and deeds—a gap he believes has never been wider in modern discourse. Hughes also addresses the role of social incentives in silencing dissenting voices during the frenzy surrounding George Floyd's death. He explains that anyone attempting to present realistic crime statistics or poll data from Black neighborhoods would have faced immediate backlash; a Black person doing so might be labeled an "Uncle Tom," while a white person would be accused of racism, leaving no viable vector for truth-telling. Even Sam Harris released a 90-minute audio piece urging caution that was widely criticized despite its accuracy. This dynamic reflects the internet's obsession with looking good rather than doing good, where caring words often mask harmful actions without fact-checking their real-world implications. Furthermore, Hughes draws parallels between the medical establishment's handling of COVID-19 protests and the police response to racial injustice, noting how quickly principles were discarded based on political narratives. Early in the pandemic, right-wing activists protesting lockdowns were denounced by major institutions for jeopardizing public health, yet weeks later, massive pro-racism marches received blanket approval with claims that racism itself was a pandemic. Hughes views this hypocrisy as evidence of elite institutions losing faith and prioritizing optics over safety. He concludes that historians will likely record the summer of 2020 not just as a moment of global protest but as a cautionary tale about how unexamined empathy, combined with media bias and social pressure, can lead to policies that cause hundreds or thousands of preventable deaths among marginalized groups.
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looking back on 2020 it was almost like a collective apology from people that didn't really know what was going on we feel like maybe someone's been racist somewhere maybe this George Floyd thing is indicative of some huge big underlying problem oh my God I don't know that makes me such a piece of I I I'm not I don't have my finger on the pulse empathetically sympathetically I I I I'm not a good person what can we do to not only signal that I'm not one of them whoever them are but also to make reparations to fix this problem I need to I need to make sure that these poor minorities are okay and let let's bring a bunch of impetuses along a bunch of procedures a bunch of a bunch of initiatives that people can do yes so the the one of the reasons people had that sense is because because the media the national media in America does not report when there are police incidents with white Americans it just doesn't become news and it's partly because of the media it's partly because there's less of an audience for it so for example there was a guy named Tony Tempa who died in a way extremely similar to George Floyd with an officer's knee on the top of his back for about 13 minutes and they're cracking jokes as he's losing Consciousness saying wake up for school Tony just really uh terrible behavior for a group of police officers and he died whole thing was caught on video you can look it up on on YouTube almost nobody to this day knows or or or cares about it because it didn't catch fire because he happened to be white this was just a uh two or three or four years before before George Floyd So when you have a media ecosystem where those stories are unseen now when you see it happening to a black person everyone assumes that this kind of thing only happens to black people because they are black and then it becomes an example of racism that ties into the whole Legacy of slavery Legacy of racial inequality and really infuriates people and so people in 2020 they lost all reason they didn't ask whether all the policies they were implementing had anything to do with helping black people uh the kinds of black people that are poor and from poor uh backgrounds like George Floyd instead they promoted black people to the heads of uh board Boards of publicly traded companies as if those are the same kinds of black people that need help like George Floyd uh in essentially they made the Black Elite even better off than it was before while at the same time uh defunding the police for or neighborhoods where black people need them the most okay at the time of the summer of 2020 Gallop pulled black Americans with three simple questions do you want more police in your neighborhood the same police presence in your neighborhood or less 80% answered the same or more only 20% wanted less police and that was the position a very minority position within the black community of the black lives matter movement the defund the police movement and so forth police were defunded in many cities in America and then later refunded um in many cases by popular demand within the black community in certain places and the end result was that 2020 represented the single greatest increase in homicide from year to year in America in the past hundred years okay that is a a shocking fact that most people don't know and it was a direct result of the reaction to George Floyd's death the de policing the the uh Mass retirement of the police the general sentiment of anti- police and it hurt nobody more than the black community because those homicides were not equally distributed in nice neighborhoods and less they were highly concentrated precisely in communities that are disproportionately black and disproportionately poor I taught Joe Rogan yesterday on his podcast about luxury beliefs from that's been recently repizo police is patient zero for this I mentioned that I was walking through Austin and saw a house that has a defund the police uh placard in the garden and a private security sticker next to the front door in the window yeah the fact that people like that don't see that irony is really depressing to me I mean there are literally people that have their own private security detail okay who supported defund the police there are people in gated neighborhoods who pay a premium just so that strangers can't come near their house not even in their house but near their house who want to want to gut police forces in that are you know for for poor neighborhoods this is amazing and that's that's what happened in 2020 and more importantly that's what can happen uh in particular in America on the left when people when people only obey their empathy towards a video and suspend the rational thought that should come with that okay this video is horrible let's all agree that what is actually the best way to move forward let's not just rage let's actually think uh look at evidence and not be so Hasty with supporting policies that might backfire for the very people you're trying to help I think it would have been very difficult during the summer of 2020 to have put out uh realistic crime impact statistics um what the actual polls are saying from Mostly black neighborhoods I think anyone that posted that it would have been very quickly lambasted as some white supremacists race denial you don't care you don't understand you don't know I that would have been the smart thing to do but the incentives all aligned to not have I mean who who was going to be the person that does that if it was a black person they'd be accused of being an Uncle Tom if it was a white person they'd be accused of being a racist right that there's there was no Vector in which that narrative could have inserted itself I don't think yeah I mean Sam Harris tried to I think he released like a 90minut 90minut audio pull back from the brink yeah pull back from the brink which was very good one of the best for the people that haven't listened to it even now it is it is one of the best like monologues I think that I've ever heard that thing is phenomenal it was spot on in my view uh and I'm sure he took a lot of flak for it uh as as my friend Camille Foster likes to say people like me and Camille have the melon and force field which is you know no one is going to call me a racist they make as you say they might call me an Uncle Tom or a traitor to my community and so forth to which I would respond what what could be more of a betrayal to your community than not speaking out when you know that policies are being adopted that are going to lead to potentially hundreds or thousands of excess deaths for black people cuz that's what happened the internet is obsessed with the prioritization of looking good over doing good mhm completely obsessed with it because the distance between our opinions and our Deeds have never been greater so it's very easy to hide behind words that sound caring and and and just and forthright and charitable and understanding and the implications of it what actually happens kind of no one really ever fact checks that is he was the guy and I'm sure he had good intentions who could have foreseen that defunding the police would have negatively impacted black people well I don't know if if you'd used a little bit of a little bit of second order thinking a lot of people foresaw it a lot of people talked about it at the time me included uh but mostly we were ignored because of the the frenzy around uh around the moment I mean it's very interesting to live through a moment that I think will be written about uh by historians yeah um uh we're we're fairly close to the same age we haven't gotten too many of those I think but it will you know the summer of 2020 we we we have to acknowledge what happened uh a man died in police custody in a city Minneapolis not one of the Cities frankly that is known by non-americans and there were Pro test not just in America all around the world London Newcastle I'm from the northeast of the UK in and even more surprisingly in non-english-speaking locations I think as far as Japan if I'm not mistaken um so this is this was obviously it had something to do with the pandemic and the fact that you know everyone was stuck at home uh you know I don't know if you you recall this but I I do remember just the palpable sense of I don't get to move my body every day I don't get to go out and when there're when you finally have an outlet for that uh I think the floodgates kind of opened do you think that the same outcome would have occurred had it not been for Co no no I think I think it would have struck a chord no doubt but I think it would have been like on10th as as crazy um but you know the the other thing that many people have point pointed out is just how quickly the principles of the medical establishment disappeared and buckled so what I mean by that is in early covid there were all of these protests by right-wing uh kind of activists and and citizens around lockdowns right there were protests uh outside where people didn't want to be locked down and and they went outside and I I can't remember whether they were wearing masks or not but those were roundly denounced by every important Medical Institution in the country because they were jeopardizing uh her immunity they were killing Grandma events absolutely yeah mass mass mass cont Mass spreading events or whatever they yeah yes uh and and then literally weeks weeks later when you had thousands or tens of thousands of people marching in the streets shoulder-to-shoulder all over the country the whole medical establishment just turned around and said n it's okay because it's for racism right and even some of them said when you when you think about it isn't racism a kind of pandemic also and people watch this uh understanding that Elite institutions are capable of such hypoc hypocracy of such you know such a loose relationship with their own principles and lose Faith this episode is brought to you by element 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