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The podcast opens with a discussion on the social psychology surrounding the recent leak of Drake's nude images, highlighting a perceived double standard in how society treats men versus women regarding privacy violations. While there was significant outrage and legal action taken against AI-generated fake nudes of Taylor Swift, which were not real at all, actual explicit leaks of male celebrities like Drake have been met with celebration on social media platforms such as Twitter. The speaker notes that while female celebrity nude leaks are undeniably a massive issue, the reaction to men's privacy breaches seems treated as "fair game" or open season, whereas women tend to defend their own peers against similar violations but remain reticent about publicly discussing leaked images of male partners. This disparity extends into personal relationships and social discourse, where the speaker observes that women often talk openly in detail about sexual experiences with men, including descriptions of bodies and specific acts, which is framed as normal "girl banter." In contrast, when asked to do so by female friends after a date or relationship milestone, male partners feel uncomfortable discussing their own physical attributes or sexual performance. The speaker suggests this reflects a unique form of respect men have for women's privacy regarding sex that does not reciprocally apply; while some casual hookups might involve less guarded conversation among women depending on individual psychology, the general norm appears to be that women share details about male bodies more freely than they do their own or those of other women. The analysis then shifts to broader power dynamics and communication styles, positing that women are innovators in language and masters of relational coalitions who wield significant "soft power" compared to men's dominance in the physical realm. The speaker argues that while hard power is often associated with male-dominated institutions like politics or corporate leadership, day-to-day decisions regarding lifestyle choices—such as what TV shows to watch, dinner menus, or holiday plans—are frequently made by women, representing a form of influence rarely acknowledged publicly. This linguistic and relational dominance allows women to effectively manage groups and relationships but also creates an arena where men are "hopelessly outgunned" against female-led emotional campaigns or exclusionary tactics within small social circles. Finally, the discussion addresses the toxic potential of these dynamics, specifically referencing Jonathan Haidt's work on bullying between girls which is often framed as relational aggression rather than overt physical violence. The speaker describes conversations with a friend named Freya India about how nuanced venting and intrasexual competitiveness among women can be ruthless, utilizing tools like emotional manipulation and soft cancellation to castigate others in ways men are ill-equipped to counteract physically or linguistically. This form of aggression is noted as being particularly damaging on social media platforms where anonymity fuels a 24-hour cycle of bullying that contributes to rising suicide rates among young girls, underscoring the need for society to recognize and address this unspoken but pervasive issue without falling into gender reversal tropes about who harms whom most.
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talk to me about the social psychology
of Drake's pick this is yeah this is
this is this happened hours ago but from
what I understand is that Drake Drake's
has now been leaked online not seen it
not interested in seeing it uh but it
has brought up an interesting double
standard where there's a lot of women on
Twitter right now sort of melting over
these images over a well-endowed Drake
let's put it that way and it's just
everywhere it's just being thrown around
flinged around like everyone's just
talking about it like how great and I'm
just like no respect for his privacy or
his body and of it's difficult not to
compare it to what's happening to Taylor
Swift and how she had the AI generated
image of her not real at all I haven't
seen it either and I was like everyone's
outraged over that and they're bringing
in they're changing laws to stop that
from happening which is fair enough but
Drake's actual dick is been late and
it's like quite explicit and I imagine
the people that were kicking off over
Taylor Swift and another one sharing it
and tweeting about how great it is and
it's a developing story for sure but a
definite double standard about how we
seem to respect women's privacy more
when it comes to these sort of things
than men's and again that's not to say
women having their nudes leaked
celebrity women is not a massive issue
of course it is but it's still an
interesting double standard about how
when it happens to a man it's sort of
like fair game like it's open season uh
but yeah I wonder how many men come out
in sort of Def it's seems like guys lose
on both sides that women will come out
in Defense of Women who've had their
nudes leaked and men will probably feel
at least a little bit reticent about
publicly talking about them maybe in
WhatsApp it'll get forwarded quite a lot
but uh publicly they're not going to
talk about it and the reverse seems to
be true if it's a guys I don't think I
don't know like unless I was feeling
particularly like paragoni that day I
don't know whether I would shout up as a
normal person who didn't have a platform
and just be like this is ridiculous like
all of these people like that's just not
the guy impulse to kind of step in in in
that way there's something kind of a bit
icky about it being a a guy's nudity in
any case that guys dud sort of kind lean
away from a little bit there is there is
a weird unexpected sense of respect that
a lot of men have for their Partners
especially around sex and this is
another double stand that I've noticed a
lot and something I I personally
associate with is that I hear a lot of I
hear lot about women who are sleeping
with men and they talk openly and in
detail about the sexual experiences
about the guy's dick about his body and
it's just like you know girl banter and
then women tell me this like it's normal
and then like you must talk about it
with guys and we're like we never talk
about it like maybe we'll confirm the
ACT has happened and that's it like we
don't go into detail we don't talk about
the bodies we don't go into sort of
step-by-step guide of exactly what
happened and like I've I've been on
dates of women and like we steep
together and then the next day like one
of her friends comes over and like Pats
me on the back like good job Jo and I'm
like what and then she just basically
saying like good job for you know great
sex and I'm just like I'm like that is
crazy how you've already had that
conversation and like no consideration
of my privacy so I think there is a very
interesting fast and loose style to
discourse around women talking about
men's bodies in that context that
surprisingly men don't seem to have
there's a weird sense of respect that
men have for their Partners bodies and
sex and I think it's certainly the case
in long-term
relationships I would be tempted to say
that it maybe switches at least a little
bit in short-term relationships but a
good chunk of that is because of the
incentives because guys see a short-term
casual hookup as a badge of honor
whereas girls probably want to talk
about it a little bit less depending on
the kind of girl that it is depending on
her psychology but yeah I mean dude if I
was to say I mean I don't
know would girls ask another girl oh
what's George like in bed like what's
your boyfriend like in bed I have no
idea that seem even to me that seems a
little bit too far but if I was to ask
my like married or engaged or long-term
bro friends oh dude does such and such
like does she give good head what's that
like yeah yeah it's I mean that is
crossing a huge line and they're never
going to tell you no I know it's yeah I
don't I think a lot of men don't have
those conversations I don't think
they're interested I think that's more
what women talk about but then again
I've never been in those conversations
either um I don't know but it it's
definitely an example of what what can
become quite toxic you can see the
remnants of like what could become
female dating strategy or what could
become are we dating the same guy and I
just think that's women as the Guardians
and masters of language that makes a lot
of sense they are the innovators of
language they are the they are so much
better than men at building
relationships and coalitions and groups
and netk working and yeah like language
especially and like it makes sense that
that that that has its pros and it has
its cons and this whole like gossiping
relational aggression style of discourse
that is mostly women is a very
interesting thing that also we're not
talking about especially in bullying
like the bullying between girls is is
something that Jonathan height talks
about a lot and it's very interesting we
don't that's never framed as toxic
femininity like gossip culture
Whispering campaigns Cel counseling
people
and I think that's a very interesting
insight into what can become from my
quite toxic women only
groups I had a conversation with freyer
India earlier this week uh while I'm for
the people who are watching on YouTube
and for the people who are just
listening I'm in a slightly different
location at the moment which I've been
fighting to get the internet to work for
two hours I'm still in Honduras in Ran
uh so third world country but second
world internet so we've been able to
make it work um but I had a conversation
with Freya while I was out here and
she was telling me that the deaft
nuanced venting intrasexual
competitiveness the use of exclusion and
kind of soft cancellation of friendships
and all this stuff for girls is [ __ ]
brutal like it's so ruthless and I don't
want to do the reversal of the common
Trope which is uh like women harmed men
most affected which is often like the
reverse has talked about but um if you
think about the tools that women wield
uh emotionally
linguistically uh uh that is a fight
that many men are unarmed to be able to
compete with it's the same you know a
woman's um emotional ability and that
coalitional relational aggression thing
is their specific strength when it comes
especially within small groups in the
same way as a man's is his physical
power or groups would be the physical
threat that they're able to bestow so if
you have this sort of back and forth if
you have a group of women that are able
to castigate or or direct their ey and
the eye of Sauron toward men or or or a
man or whatever um that man is
hopelessly outgunned in that particular
Arena because his ability to do the same
is the same inversion as a woman's
ability to fight back physically yeah so
I mean everyone talks about how men have
an advantage in women's sports in terms
of trans women uh TR trans women in
women's sports and the physical
Advantage males have over women and
that's a very interesting conversation
but no one ever talks about how like
women for example are a generation ahead
of men in terms of innovating within
language that there like they're so far
ahead of men in terms of the ability to
speak and communicate it's partly
biological partly socialized that
doesn't really matter but no one really
talks about how does that give them an
advantage in these spaces like how does
that allow give them power the power of
like soft power for example the power of
persuasion and influence uh I haven't
got the numbers exactly but I know
everyone talks about power dynamics in
terms of hard power presidents
congressmen politicians CEOs all men
having hard power but if you actually
look at the normal day-to-day decisions
men and women have especially in
relationships like what watching for TV
what watch on TV what eating for dinner
when are we going on holiday those are
decisions made by women and I like about
of about 15 biggest questions in a
normal person's life about 13 of them
are made by women the female partner and
they do have more soft power um but no
one ever seems to want to talk about
that uh and why not it's it's a show of
women's superiority over men in their
own domain and you're right in that men
in many ways have uh doin are dominant
in the Physical Realm because of our
greater physical strength but women uh
have have their own dominance in the
sort of linguistic and relational realm
and women women are hurt by that like I
said of bullying like girls bullying
girls in America massive problem
especially when you bring in things like
social media where girls can bu get for
girls 24 hours a day with anonymity and
it it's leading to a massive Peak a
massive rise in suicide in young girls
so this unspoken about form of
aggression relational aggression which
has been seen in girls as young as two
is not been discussed and it's hurting
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