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Matthew McConaughey addresses the complex and often misunderstood concept of masculinity, arguing that society has successfully moved past the toxic definition where macho behavior was equated with being a man. He suggests that while the #MeToo movement rightfully aimed to expose abuse by men in power, its broad application inadvertently shamed good men who were simply trying to understand what true masculinity entails today. McConaughey emphasizes that this confusion is not about diminishing women's rights but rather stems from an overcorrection where many men feel they have been told everything masculinity isn't without a clear definition of what it actually is, leading some to disengage entirely or retreat into silence. The speaker posits that there are distinct biological differences between men and women, yet these do not preclude mutual respect; instead, the world benefits from more good, truly masculine men who are reliable solutions rather than oppressors. McConaughey reflects on his own life after becoming a father, describing a profound synchronicity of head, heart, and loins that allowed him to be an exceptional husband and provider without being chauvinistic or macho. He notes that many middle-aged men have recently realized they failed to build lasting careers or marriages because they lacked the dignity found in reliability, prompting a search for a redefined role where they can once again feel significant enough to be depended upon by others. However, McConaughey warns against the dangers of defining traits like emotional composure, competence, and decisiveness without nuance, as these qualities easily slide into their toxic extremes: stoicism becomes denial of emotion, competence turns into single-minded progress at all costs, and decisiveness morphs into domineering behavior. He illustrates this delicate balance by comparing social movements to medical supplements; advice given en masse acts like a shotgun blast where "hyperresponders" who already need the correction absorb it excessively, while those with approach anxiety or genuine vulnerability ignore messages meant for them because they were never toxic in the first place. This asymmetry of response creates a paradoxical outcome where well-intentioned efforts to sanitize male behavior end up stripping away positive masculine traits rather than eliminating only the bad ones. McConaughey explains that men who are already emotionally vulnerable and respectful often do not need messages telling them to be more so, whereas those with generational trauma or deep-seated denial of emotions rarely respond to such advice regardless of how much it is repeated. Consequently, broad campaigns can inadvertently reduce the very good behaviors society hopes to preserve while failing to effectively address the specific bad habits that require targeted intervention. Ultimately, McConaughey concludes that the goal should be a rebalance rather than a sterilization of all male behavior, urging both men and women to navigate these definitions with care. He advocates for recognizing that true masculinity involves being relied upon without becoming an oppressor, maintaining emotional control while remaining vulnerable enough to admit faults, and exercising competence without sacrificing empathy or listening skills. By understanding the limitations of mass advice and acknowledging the diverse dispositions among men, society can better support those seeking a healthy definition of manhood without punishing those who have already aligned themselves with positive values.
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Are there any principles or have you
learned when it comes to the masculinity
thing, are there any principles that you
refuse to compromise on?
Let's define let's let's have fun trying
to define masculinity here. I think
we've
rightfully so
come out of the chasm that macho is
masculinity.
I think
through
certain perceived and not perceived and
realistic overcompensations of say a me
too movement
that
then some men felt
shamed to be masculine.
Good men felt that way. I know for a
fact and again I want to say to all the
women out there this has nothing to do
with being exclusive of the rise of uh
the rights and power of women but in
that over conversation there are a lot
of men that I know who were looking for
that definition that feel like
>> I've been told what it's not
>> and now I don't know what it is and
[ __ ] I just opened the door for her.
[ __ ] I'm done. Well, it certain and and
and and I bring that up and sometimes
friends, oh that's frivolous. No, but
it's part of it. It's one example of of
like that's not what that's not what me
too meant
in the over conversation, especially
when they said come one, come all
and Aziz Aeri got thrown up there with
Harvey Weinstein is the same crime.
You're going no that's not the same.
Hang on a minute. Not
>> the same.
There are a lot of men trying to
understand what that is. And like
anybody, they're not going to go down.
You know, if anything to be corrected,
everyone overcompensates.
You know what I mean? And but that
there's men looking for a redefinition
of what masculinity is.
And
there is a difference. There are some
wonderful, beautiful differences between
men and women, thankfully,
>> biologically.
um not always exclusive of each other,
you know, not and but there's nothing
that I see this is is is right up there
at the top of what's one of the best
thing for women all over the world is
more good men
and
a masculine
truly masculine man is not an oppressor.
Truly masculine man is not macho. It's
not chauvinist,
but it's damn sure masculine. Most
masculine I've ever felt
after the birth of my first child.
Never were my head, heart, and loins in
such synchronicity and the power that I
had was. I mean, it's probably the best
husband ever at that time, too.
Men want to be, and I don't know this is
biological because I'm not saying women
don't, but men want to and are looking
for
ways to be relied upon.
And so we say, "Yeah, but you always
want to be the savior and you always
want the solution." Okay,
cool.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to
find the solution to things.
>> Great. Let's work with that.
Thank you women for saying glad you got
the solution but just listen to me for a
second long cuz I'm not looking for a
solution. Actually I just want to talk
this out and I'll probably answer my own
question. You know what I mean?
Doesn't mean don't be the male side of
you that wants to find the solution or
wants to be relied upon.
It's being redefined now. And uh there's
a lot of uh I talked to him and a lot of
young men and middle-aged men that are
looking, you know, part of this role I
got to play in this last film, The Lost
Bus. It was not, you know, visible to me
that I was also representing a large
group of men who were middle-aged who
woke up and looked around. I'm like, "Oh
[ __ ]
this isn't where I thought I'd be.
Oh [ __ ] I haven't built anything."
failed marriages, failed jobs. Some of
them did it all right, too. A lot of
them when things got tough, they snuck
out the back door.
>> Got the divorce, didn't go one step
further, didn't show up, and that caught
up with them. Uh, but that's also a
large group of the demographic of men
going like, "What does masculinity mean?
How and where can I be relied upon? That
gives me dignity to be relied. That
gives me significance.
Call it what you want, but if you think
that's true, and I do, there's nothing
wrong with that.
So,
what is masculinity?
You know, and I'm not going to, you
know, let's get past the what are some
of your definitions of or understandings
of what masculinity is? If we were going
to say, "Men, here's something that you
should expect of yourself and pursue
as a biological male."
>> You know,
>> it seems like a lot of the definitions
converge on similar sorts of traits. Um,
emotional composure tends to be one of
them. Uh, competence
tends to be another.
um the ability to be decisive.
>> Yeah.
>> Is another of those.
>> So, we're starting to build this sort of
suite of traits,
>> right?
>> That it is. Uh but
as soon as you start to try and alter
the edge cases, so well, I mean, you
know, you're going to have somebody
who's
uh got emotional control. Well, that uh
even slightly at its extreme is a denial
of emotions. and no vulnerability,
>> right?
>> Sort of all the bad bits of stoicism
with none of the good bits,
>> right?
>> Uh and then, okay, you want sort of
competence. Well, that very quickly sort
of turns into a single-minded
progress at all costs regardless of what
anybody else thinks.
And uh decisiveness turns into being
doineering
>> and certain.
>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't need to listen.
I don't need to listen to you. Um, so I
think
it is a a very delicate balance and I I
I think it's a good point to say um me
too was an important rebalance to men
being able to use their positions of
power to get access to women in ways
that they shouldn't have done.
>> Mhm.
>> And the goal of me too was to sanitize
the toxic elements of men's behavior,
but instead it just sterilized all of
them. It sterilized all of the elements
of its behavior. I think it
>> and I think it's when it became so many
movements are are right on when it's a
rifle, but as soon as they become
general admission.
>> Yeah.
>> It becomes the shotgun spread and it's
like, well, we got to Yeah. Come on.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't know. You telling the truth? Oh,
it doesn't matter. Yeah.
>> Stop. That's it. stops being the
opportunity to uh rebalance something
and it starts being an opportunity to
grind an axe and continue to sort of put
your foot on the neck of of somebody
else. So I think um yeah you end up with
this
>> this strange situation especially around
me too. This is a pattern. I mentioned
to you last time about uh type A people
with type B problems and type B people
with type A problems. And the theme of
that is
advice that's given on mass
is uh sometimes right even for the
majority but will be um absorbed
asymmetrically. If you uh give everybody
the same supplements, some people will
be hyper respponders and some people
will not respond at all. And sometimes
the hyperresponders are the people who
didn't need it already.
>> Right?
>> So an example when it comes to the me
too thing is the men who
really needed to heed don't be pushy are
precisely the men that that message will
not work on. And the men who are most
likely to take it to heart,
>> right?
>> Are the ones who probably needed a
little bit more encouragement to go up
to that girl in the bar. So, if you're
the type of guy who's who's a little bit
more insular and a little bit more
concerned and you didn't want to make
her feel uncomfortable and you had
approach anxiety and then like believe
all women do not the toxic male gays,
you do not need to do the thing. You're
going to think, "Oh, I knew I knew all
along that that was the case. I must not
I must not do this thing." Whereas, if
you're the sort of guy who was already
being way too pushy,
>> unfortunately, this advice is there are
hyperresponders and those that aren't.
And unfortunately, a lot of the time the
people that are most likely to respond
to bits of advice. And this is the same
thing when it comes to men should be
vulnerable.
Men should show their emotions more out
of the paniply, the full spectrum of
men. Who do you think is most likely to
take on board the message? Men should be
more vulnerable.
Men who are already
>> already vulnerable,
>> they've got a disposition to be more
vulnerable. The guys that have got the
denial of emotions, you know, boomer
absent father
[ __ ] generational trauma passed down
thing. They're not taking that on board.
And uh it's just I I think it's a
fascinating challenge that we face when
you say the people who most need to hear
a message are often the ones that are
least likely to hear it. And when you
scatter gun it across everyone,
>> you can actually not reduce down the in
the bad incidents you're trying to get
rid of
>> and further reduce down the good that
you were hoping to hold on to. It's a
solvent that works in reverse and it
strips away the stuff that you were
trying to keep,
>> right?
>> And doesn't get rid of the bad stuff you
wanted to
>> evacuate. So, what can we
all learn?
What can men learn and what can women
learn about? Okay. What can we learn
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