Where Did Judas REALLY Go After Betraying Jesus

I'm blessed and highly favored. How you doing, my brother? >> I'm pretty good. Let me ask a question. Is that a real background? Is that Is that real or is that uh one of those backgrounds they put on on you in the Is that real? [laughter] >> Oh, that ain't real. >> Okay. I was like, that's that is a nice background. That's that's real nice. I'm think Okay. [laughter] >> Oh, boy. You tickle me. Listen, >> I thought it was real. [snorts] >> No. Um, so I got two things that we might be able to get into. >> Give me your best one because I I got >> Okay, so >> a bunch of folks waiting. >> All right, I'mma go with the one that's going to be really challenging and I'm hoping that, >> okay, >> you can consider doing even a lesson on this one. >> Okay. >> All right. I appreciate how you share with folks the story. If people would just get the story of the Bible >> and allow the Holy Spirit to lead them and guide them, man, they will see the fullness of God and all that he has done for us. But it's unfortunate that I believe too many people are trying to receive and understand spiritual things with the carnal mind. >> So that leads me to this. Okay. I was in a conversation with a sister that swear up and down that Judas is in hell. >> That who? >> And I'm like there's Judas. Judas is scariot. the betrayal of Jesus. >> Okay? >> And I told her there's no scripture that affirms that Judas is in hell. Then I tried to explain to her, "Honey, do you think that the role that Judas played in God's plan of salvation was something that Jesus and God wasn't aware of, it caught them off guard?" And do you believe that a righteous, just loving God would birth a mere mortal to play the role that Judas played in God's plan of salvation? Cuz Jesus knew exactly who Judas was, even called him friend, and even told him to go and do quickly what you must do. So, as I begin to share those comments with her, I asked her to go back in Matthews and see what Matthew recorded about Judas acknowledging with great remorse. Some scriptures say great remorse. The old King James version said that he was godly sorrow. He repented that he caused a innocent man to be led to death. And so I said, 'Now I want you to think from a spiritual standpoint. Try to have the mind of Christ in the mind of God. Do you really think a righteous, just loving God is going to cause a mere mortal to play his role in God's plan of salvation and then condemn him forever? And last but not least, I had her to think about when scripture said, "Where do you think Jesus was those three days that he was in the tomb?" Where do you think his spirit was? Scripture said he ministered to those in Hades. And if Jesus said to the father and said to himself in Luke 23:34, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." anything he asked of the father, it was done. So I share all that to say I wanted her to start thinking and trying to think spiritually and not cardally. So again, that might be a lesson that you might want to consider to teach on. >> No, no, we can cover this real quick. Um Judas, um hold on one second. This is Acts. Uh let me go Hold on. Let me pull up a couple passages. Acts one. Okay. So, let's go to a couple passages. One, let's look at John 6 and hold on. 6 and 70. Jesus answered them, "Did I not myself not choose you, the 12, and yet one of you is >> a devil?" Uh the right >> now he meant Judas the son of Simon's scariot >> for he one of the twel was going to betray him. >> John 17:12 while I was with them he sprayed of the father while I was with them I was keeping them in your name which you have given me and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of predition. They call him the son of predition >> uh which is destruction the son of ruin so that the scripture would be fulfilled. Okay. Now, he's referring to Psalm 41:9. Let's go to Psalm 41:9. I type this in. Come on. >> Psalm 419. Even my close friend in whom I trusted who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me. So, that's the that's the passage that he's saying that fulfilled. >> Then, let's look at uh what he says about John. I mean by uh Judas that the part that you brought up about what you do do quickly in John 13:27 after the morsel Satan then entered who into Judas. >> Therefore Judas said to him what you do do quickly. And so the devil entered into Judas. >> He could not be saved, could he? And then let's go a little further up in John 13. Notice let's let's go up to where Jesus was. um washing their feet. If I go a little further, there it is. So, this and I've covered this passage before where he's talking to them and he's washing their feet, >> right? >> And Peter said, "Lord, then wash not only my feet." I'm sorry, let's go back. He says, uh Peter says, "Never shall you wash my feet." Jesus said, "If I do not wash you, you have no part with me." Peter said, "Lord, then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my head." She said to him, "He who has been bathed needs only to wash his feet." The part where I I've talked about before about being bathed, perfect tense. This is someone who's been cleansed. This is what the word is. He's already been clean. How so? In his heart. He says, "Needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean and you are clean." So, how are they clean? This is by their heart being regenerated, but not all of you. So, all of them have had their heart regenerated except for who? Except for Judas. for he knew the one who was betraying him. For this reason, he said, "Not all of you are clean." So, thus far, I think we've got more than enough proof to conclude that Judas is not saved. If he's not saved, where must he be? He must be in hell. Let's go to Acts chapter 1. >> Okay. >> Uh let's see. Speaking about Judas, speaking about where he purchased this field, um he was counted among us and received his share in this ministry. Now this man acquired a field with the price of his wickedness, the price of his wickedness, and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle of all, and all of his intestines gushed out, and it became known to to all who were living in Jerusalem, so that in their own language that field was called uh haeldom, that is field of the blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms, let his homestead be made desolate, and let no one dwell in it, and let another take his office. Have you ever read those texts? Because oh yes if you so it calls him it go it goes on and calls him a wicked man. >> So he chose a wicked man. So the person that he chose though he looked like he was a good guy >> he was still wicked. >> So so go ahead. I'm sorry. So those scriptures that you read, >> all of that took place before Jesus died on the cross, >> the washing of the feet and all of that. >> The disciples still did not fully understand who Jesus was because they didn't even show up at his crucifixion. >> But what would that have to do with with Judas, though? >> Because they didn't understand. Again, these are just mere mortal human being. They didn't fully understand all what Christ had came to do. And so, yes, he washed their feet, but and you said their heart was regenerated. I don't believe their heart was regenerated. They still was followers of Christ, but they fully didn't understand. That's why they were hiding when he was crucified. >> So, Mary had to go. If you don't think their hearts were regenerated, what does Jesus >> Okay, so for me, here's when their heart was regenerated. >> Okay. >> When the resurreed Christ met them >> when what? >> In John what? when Christ the resurrected Christ, okay, >> met them, >> okay, >> in John chapter 20 and he began to as you know he Thomas had to touch his hands and stuff to feel >> and then Jesus himself began to minister to them about what it was that he was now going to need them to do. And we talked about this before. He told them, "Receive the Holy Spirit." Did they? >> And breathed on them, >> did they? >> So now they fully understand cuz he is the resurrected Lord. He has appeared before them. And so before he descended into heaven, remember what he had to say to Peter. Peter, do you love me? Three times, right? >> Mhm. >> To confirm that Peter's heart was regenerated. And so I share all that to say again, I know when folks think with a carnal mind, oh Judas did this, Judas did that. But when you think about the whole story and you think about God and all that God has done for creation and for humanity, >> do we really believe that a just, righteous, loving God would condemn a mere human being, >> for eternity, for the role that God birthed him to play? >> Okay, so couple things. Cuz one, I wouldn't I wouldn't use the phrase that a carnal mind would think that because other folks who like I'm not carnal. Why would I think that? But I'd say this. Would God ever choose ordain something or use a man for his plan and condemn him for being used in God's plan? Well, there are a lot of people that fit that bill. Pharaoh, for one, Pharaoh's clearly um a evil, wicked person. How about uh Esau? clearly um is not in uh uh in heaven with the Lord, but he played a part, did he not? Or how about someone like um uh uh like >> really >> or like Huh? >> Really? You you really believe that? >> That that those two mentioned Esau. >> Uhhuh. >> God is the one that determined that Esau wasn't the chosen one. And so Esau's in hell. >> What do you think Esau is? >> I think Esau just like um Joshua when Joshua came back and Esau embraced him and stuff. >> Okay. So next question. So last question. What what what would what would Judas >> have to do or Esau have to do or Pharaoh have to do to not be in hell? >> Okay, I didn't use Pharaoh because Pharaoh did not acknowledge God. >> What did Esau have to do? Esau understood that he was a descendant of Abraham and in that lineage that and so all he had to do is just continue to worship as they worshiped uh from their knowledge of their father Abraham. >> Did he did Esau ever do anything worth being atoned for? So, what did Joshua do to be atoned for? See, that's that's that's the issue. >> So, hold on. Hold on. So, let's >> accepted Christ. >> Let's pull up a text to prove that Esau was not saved. >> Hebrews 12. >> Look at Hebrews 12. >> Look at this text. Go ahead. >> That there be no immoral or godless person like Esau. Mhm. >> So he calls them immoral and godless. So I think it's safe to assume that Esau is in hell. >> Okay. Um again, >> right? >> So that's what the scripture said. And I'm not going to argue with the scripture cuz that's what the scripture said. I'm just talking about the character of God. >> Okay. So let me ask the question. So, could God choose a person to play a part in his scheme or in his plan and that person go to hell? >> Well, where were they going anyway? If God did not if God didn't use Judas, where was Judas going anyway? >> If he didn't accept Christ, but again, at that time, none of them fully knew. >> Okay. But but my question though, absent that, where was he going anyway? >> Okay. So if he did end up in hell, that's why I said those three days that Christ was supposed to be in Hades ministering to those souls that were captive, Judas soul had to be there also. And if anybody was going to accept Jesus' ministry during those three days in Hades, it would have been Jew Judas because he seen the miracles. Why? Why would Judas So you think Judas would get a second chance? >> The scripture said that those folks that Christ ministered to them in Hades, >> it didn't say they got a second chance, though. >> No, it didn't specifically say that. You're right. >> So, we can't So, so we don't want to add something there. We don't want to say go beyond scriptures, right? >> I understand that. But again, why would scripture even mention that Jesus went to minister to the captives? >> There could be it could it could well, first of all, the people that he said he mentioned he that he went to and spoke to were those who were died during the time of Jonah. >> I'm sorry, during the time of Noah. So that that's not that's not Judas, right? >> Yeah. But again, and >> what what you're having difficulty with is that what you're having difficulty with is that God would use this person >> for his plan and then send him to hell afterwards. Well, first of all, every God uses everything and everybody for his plan. He's sovereign. >> So if he wants to use if he wants to use this whatever this is for his glory, he can do it. Remember Paul says he gives he gives a story. How can you say to the the create the one that's created say to the one who's creating how could you have made me this way? >> Who are you oh man to question him? He can do what he wants to. >> Example A exhibit A job. Ask Job. He can do what he wants to. The Bible says that the earth is the Lord. And here's here's the uh the New Ghetto version. Everybody in it >> are his as well. So everybody inside the earth also belongs to and he does what he pleases. Now, Judas was never going to place his faith in Christ. He was never going to do so. That's why the Bible say he he chose a wicked man. He was wicked before. And so, I'm going to use this wicked man for my glory. >> He can do that, right? >> God can do whatever God chooses to do cuz he's sovereign. But the scripture did say that the young man was remorse and repent that he caused the innocent man death. And God knows the heart. See that's and so that's where I'm coming from. >> God know why why would you assume that Judas Okay. So here's what we know. Judas was not faithful. Judas the devil entered his heart. He was a wicked man chosen as a wicked man before he was he was called predicted to be wicked from the Old Testament that he would choose a wicked man. That's Judas. So he was wicked before he chose him. He just didn't walk around acting like he was wicked but he was um he was clearly financially motivated. He says that all of you have been cleaned. Now this before John 20 breathe on all of you have been cleaned except for who? Who was the one person that was not previously cleaned? >> Judas. >> And by the way, this is how we know it's regeneration because when the Bible talks about a person being clean or cleansed, he's talking about their heart. So, they had already been cleaned. Remember when Jesus asked him, "Who do who do men say that I am?" And then he says, "Well, who do you say that I am?" He says, "You are the Christ." And who does Jesus say, "Let them know that?" The the the father. >> Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you, but my father who's in heaven. Well, that's only because they had been regenerated priv previous previously. And so, he has done something in them that he hadn't done to Judas. >> So, Judas, there's there's no verse that gives us any indication that Judas would have been saved. It's what all you're relying on is I don't think God would do that. But, >> okay. So, then I I go back to Luke 23:34, and that's my favorite scripture. >> Okay. If Jesus asked God to forgive folks for they knew not what they do, Judas had to be in in that forgiveness. >> Okay. Um >> cuz anything Jesus asked of the father, the father granted him. Cuz of course Jesus being the father in the person of Jesus Christ. >> Were were you watching me earlier? Were you were you watching me earlier when I when I um was covering what we call textual criticism and showing which verses belong and how we know and so forth. So here's that text. >> Jesus was saying, "Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing." You see this little part over here? Let me make this bigger so everybody can see this. Y'all see this over here? >> These little things that are highlighted. >> So everything between here and here is not in the original text. So this part where it says father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing is not actually in the original text. >> Okay. >> So >> but even if it was he's not talking about Judas anyway. >> Okay. I'll have to go with the lesson that I learned today that that part of Luke 23:34 was not in the original text. Now, by the way, let's just say it was. Let's say it was. Is that a get out of jail free card for everybody that's not saved? No. Cuz if it applies to Judas, it applies to everybody else too then, doesn't it? >> Come on. >> So, >> I got you. I got you. >> So, Judas without question is in. And matter of fact, Judas is the proof to show. By the way, by the way, here here's here's the passage that also lets us know that Judas I'm sorry that Judas is in hell. Here's another passage. [snorts] When John says this in 1 John 21:19, they went out from us because they were not really of us. For if they had been of us, they would have remained. If Judas would have been of us, he would have remained. >> Remain. But he just didn't. You literally have Jesus there and you denied him. You sold him out. You betrayed him. >> Peter denied him. Judas just betrayed him. >> Yeah. Peter [clears throat] Yeah. He betrayed him. Betrayed him. Sold him out. He's the Now, how it's a it's an example for us to see, man, we can we need to be careful. We have We have the word of God with us. Mhm. >> And we have all that we need and let's not do what what Judas did. Let's not betray him. Not necessarily in the same way. We can't betray him in the same way, but let's not betray him uh in any sense. It's possible that you can walk with you can know be be familiar with the Lord or the way the word of the Lord and still do your own thing. Judas is our lesson. And so I I don't think there's any question. I don't know anyone I I I couldn't find I wouldn't be able to find a scholar that would say that that Judas is not in hell. One, he didn't do anything deserving to be in heaven or to to to um to be atoned for. He never placed his faith in Christ. That part we know he never did that. So the only way that he could have been saved, he didn't do it. He did the matter of fact, he did the opposite.