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In this discussion, Kyle Forgeard reflects on his observations of Donald Trump's off-camera demeanor and decision-making processes. He notes that while Trump naturally commands attention upon entering a room, he actively seeks out opinions from everyone present, ranging from trusted advisors to casual staff members like restaurant servers and golf caddies. Although critics often label this behavior as stemming from a fragile ego or an inability to handle dissenting views, Forgeard argues there is a dichotomy at play; Trump genuinely values input but filters it through his own strong self-image. This approach allows him to gather data on various issues before making decisions, effectively conducting constant polls within the room without appearing vulnerable about his core beliefs. The conversation also shifts to Kyle's and Neel Patel's involvement in politics following their election victory for Donald Trump. As representatives of a demographic heavily influenced by digital media, they utilized their platforms with an organization called Send The Vote to help register hundreds of thousands of young voters between the ages of 18 and 35. Their efforts were recognized when Dana White featured them prominently in his post-election speech, highlighting how independent internet personalities have become integral to mainstream political discourse. Kyle emphasizes that older generations often struggle to understand why younger audiences prioritize online content like podcasts over traditional news networks such as CNN or MSNBC, noting the deep echo chambers and split media landscapes that define current information consumption habits. A significant portion of the dialogue addresses the responsibility associated with their growing platforms versus maintaining authenticity. Unlike influencers who present squeaky-clean images only to be canceled upon making mistakes, Kyle and Neel embrace a "scumbag" persona from the start, which sets low expectations for their audience and prevents backlash when they inevitably make errors or engage in controversial behavior like partying excessively. They contrast this with peers who hide behind good-boy facades while engaging in similar activities off-camera, suggesting that transparency about one's flaws is preferable to maintaining a false image of perfection. This philosophy extends to their content strategy, where they prioritize being true to themselves rather than curating an idealized version of reality for millions of viewers. The interview concludes with reflections on cultural nuances and lifestyle choices, including the universal language of "scumbag working-class party people" that transcends borders like Canada and Australia. Kyle humorously points out how different cultures have specific slang for illicit activities or behaviors, such as references to cocaine use or eating gator tail versus church attendance, illustrating the complexity of social norms across regions. The discussion is punctuated by a promotional segment for Nomadic's travel gear, which Kyle praises for its organizational capabilities and durability, framing it as an essential tool for travelers who want their journey focused on experiences rather than packing chaos. Ultimately, the episode underscores how independent creators navigate fame, political influence, and personal branding while staying true to their roots despite massive audience growth.
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what have you learned since being around
him watching the way that he operates
watching his systems his staff his
demeanor was there anything that you
took away from spending time yeah that
guy's like I mean when that guy walks
into a room obviously he just soaks up
obviously all the attention in the room
that's one thing I noticed too one thing
I noticed about him too is like yeah
he's very he likes to get everybody's
opinion whether you're like his most
trusted advisor
or someone like me or someone that is
just in the room he's always asking
people what do you think about this what
do you think about this what do you
think about this what do you think about
this I noticed that he does that a lot
and I think he's just like
subconsciously like kind of collect it's
like a poll he does and um I've noticed
that he does that a lot he's always
asking people what they think of
something and then I think that's how he
kind of makes decisions as well it's
interesting I've heard a lot of
criticism around
you know uh sort of shallow fragile ego
thing not necessarily wanting to hear
other people that tell him no or that
say things that he doesn't fully
understand but on the flip side I've
also heard a lot of that that he's
always asking like servers in
restaurants and and the golf caddy for
what their opinion is on stuff so you
have this odd dichotomy thing going on
yeah he definitely he definitely loves
himself there's there's no question
about that but you're right yeah exactly
if you're at a golf course he's talking
to like the back shop guys like he's a
people's person which which I find very
interesting I think that's one of his
his little secrets and you guys got kind
of involved in politics a little bit
yeah we did we um yeah we worked with
like uh an organization called send the
vote um so they were like a bipartisan
organization and it was just about
helping people register to vote so we
kind of pushed that on our like social
media and stuff cuz obviously Neel you
know we kind of own that male 18
to35 vote so yeah we were responsible
for like hundreds of thousands of people
registering to vote which was pretty
crazy like after the election like
people were coming up to me on the
street and like thanking me like I'd be
at the gym and people like people were
like walking up to me being like yo
thank you like thank you for what you
did like it was kind of like weird you
know I don't know I just feel so normal
and we were just kind of doing what our
heart felt like we were obviously big
Trump
supporters so yeah that whole election
was crazy and then Dana White showed it
us out in that um the postelection
speech like we were the first ones to
get shouted out so that whole thing was
just surreal and I'm from Canada so like
I'm not even I can't even I can't even
like to me for me to get shout out
shouted out in the postelection speech
yeah like my parents are like what the
like everyone's just like what this is a
simulation it is bizarre the crossing
over of Independent Media with
mainstream political disc go well that's
what that's what we saw this election
right I guess yeah all the the old news
networks now are fascinated and I had to
do a bunch of interviews after that
election too and they're all fascinated
with how did the internet win this
election why are young people so
obsessed with the internet why why do
they watch podcast like these people are
old they have no [ __ ] clue what like
you and I are doing like they really
don't for us it's so it makes so much
sense like Trump goes on Joe Rogan like
obviously that's going to be big but for
them they're like why was that Joe Rogan
thing so big like they're that stupid
yeah it's odd I think I take for granted
a lot of stuff that to me seems like a
like a normal assumption it's like
obviously this reaches a lot of people
obviously 18 to 35y old guys are
spending more time on YouTube than they
are on CNN or MSNBC like who who
wouldn't have thought that and the fact
that there's people to that to whom that
is a a revelation really makes me made
me realize just how split off and Echo
chambered not only the messages that you
get within social media but even Medias
themselves now yeah I think we probably
take the knowledge that like you and I
have for granted right hugely it's just
yeah it's so normal it's so a part of
our everyday lives but yeah for for
especially for older people they just
have they have no clue what's going on
yeah the impact it's very powerful what
we have obviously we both own our like
it's almost like we own our own network
right like like we do so we're in do you
think about uh have you got to the stage
where there's this sense of
responsibility or obligation with sort
of what you're doing what you're saying
we were talking about this in the gym
earlier on that as the platform grows
yeah how much of a obligation do you
have or is it can you still just I'm
here having fun just doing my thing bro
like I don't know if you reach a couple
of hundred million people a month that
yeah it changes the the key to nek has
always just been as best as we can just
trying to stay true to like what I think
and what I think is funny like I
actually like Trump that's why I [ __ ]
supported him I didn't do it for any
other reason you know what I'm saying if
I didn't like him I wouldn't have
supported him simple as that so I try to
stick to that as much as I possibly can
but yeah obviously as you get bigger I
guess there is more responsibility but
we're so lucky with our fan base that we
' always been like the quote unquote
like bad guys or like scumbags so it's
not like we were like Jake Paul or like
Logan Paul or like David dock that were
more squeaky clean squeaky clean you
know what I mean and you're waiting them
you're waiting for them to make a
mistake like they're perfect and then
boom when they make a mistake they get
cancelled for us we've just been
scumbags like we started as scumbags
we've never been good guys like we've
been getting arrested since 10 years ago
we've been with people messing with
people so if anything we've gotten like
we've actually impr we've yeah we've
improved as people we're growing we're
maturing oh my God so I think that's one
thing that I'm always feel blessed with
too is that yeah our fans just don't
really get you set such low expectations
we set such low expectations that's the
key set low expectations then you can't
never get you [ __ ] up yeah that's funny
I uh I remember Rogan saying something
along the lines of everybody should
always do a comedy set everyone should
do a comedy at once so that you can go
hey what do I know I'm just a comedian
yeah and you get the like comedian eject
a seat you know uh get out of jail free
card and that's the same with you guys
it's like we just do we just do prank
YouTube but all those guys were still
like like in terms of partying I feel
like we were like the first people to
ever show like alcohol even in like
really YouTube like the first time we
went to LA I think like yeah no one
really showed anything but behind the
scenes they were obviously doing the
same [ __ ] right or worse
like all all the squeaky clean kids were
the ones like that you'd see rip and
blow in the [ __ ] Hollywood Hills
bathrooms and [ __ ] so I swear to God so
I was like so they're doing it behind
the camera but they have to put on this
good boy image which kind of them yeah
because everybody's waiting to find out
that the holier than thou squeaky clean
image is actually broken in some way I
mean the reverse of it being like you
know Kyle actually went to church on
Sunday that's not a scandal yeah but the
guy that was going to church on Sunday
ripping a gator tail the night before is
yeah uh talk to me about Gator tail we
have a lot of the same
lingo is is UK and Canadian like I don't
know I guess I guess it's just scumbag
workingclass party people right uh and
it's a universal language is pretty
Niche yeah I suppose so yeah uh anyway
it's I imagine that the Aussies are
exactly the same everyone's got their
own their own sign there's only so many
different ways you can talk about
sniffing cocaine or or girls exactly
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