What does it ACTUALLY take to become a US Citizen after 17 years...
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Dr. Nancy Li shares her deeply personal and seventeen-year journey to becoming a United States citizen, a process marked by significant emotional challenges and bureaucratic hurdles. Her path was complicated by being stranded in China twice due to national security concerns related to her PhD in material science, as well as delays caused by shifting presidential immigration policies under different administrations like Trump's. Although she initially hesitated to give up her Chinese citizenship out of love for her homeland, the decision became necessary so that she could sponsor her parents and provide a stable future for her children who had grown up without their grandparents' presence in China. This sacrifice was driven by a desire to create a loving family unit where everyone could live together legally and securely in the US.
The road to citizenship involved navigating complex legal systems, including an eleven-year struggle to secure an EB-1B green card despite having five different lawyers who initially advised her that she needed to return to research work—a path she refused as it conflicted with her passion for product management. After finding a lawyer willing to take her unique case without requiring additional academic research, she finally received her green card in September 2020 and entered the waiting period for naturalization. Unlike friends who pursued citizenship through marriage, which often requires proving the legitimacy of a union against scrutiny regarding "marriage fraud," Li chose to apply independently. Surprisingly, this independent route allowed her application process to move much faster than expected; she submitted her paperwork on Easter Sunday 2026 and received an invitation for fingerprinting just six days later, highlighting how individual circumstances can drastically alter processing times depending on the location and specific case details.
The naturalization exam proved to be a high-stakes event where candidates face up to two chances before permanent denial, requiring them to memorize one hundred twenty-five questions about US history and government while managing anxiety over what documentation others bring versus their own minimal requirements. Li passed her exam on the spot after relying heavily on flashcards for preparation, contrasting sharply with other applicants who brought extensive stacks of paperwork related to marriage proofs or family interviews. The subsequent oath ceremony was a profoundly moving experience where she stood among immigrants from twenty-three countries, listening to stories that illustrated how hard work and perseverance can transform lives within decades, echoing themes found in movies about immigrant families rising from humble beginnings like grocery store owners to federal judges or astronauts.
Ultimately, Li's story serves as powerful evidence of the American ideal that freedom offers a fair playground where individuals with limited resources—she started with only eight hundred dollars—can rise through sheer determination and self-improvement into high-level leadership roles in Fortune 500 companies earning six-figure salaries. She emphasizes that while corruption or rigid class systems may exist elsewhere, the US provides opportunities for those who refuse to give up on their dreams, whether aiming for a career as an AI product manager paying up to one million dollars or simply raising successful children and building a legacy. Her experience concludes with an inspiring message urging viewers to stay committed to their goals because consistent effort eventually pays off, transforming not just individual lives but entire family trajectories across generations through the pursuit of education, innovation, and unwavering resilience in the face of adversity.
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It took me 17 years to become a US
citizen. It was quite rocky and
emotional moment. I actually went
through a lot. I was stuck in China
twice and went through multiple rounds
of H-1B lottery and my green card
process was significantly delayed
because of a new policy from the
president. It was way harder than what I
thought, but most people gave up in the
middle of the process. But, I did lots
of things above and beyond the most
people do not do, but eventually pushed
me through the finishing line. If you
are determined to start a new life and a
career in the US, you need to continue
watching this
>> [music]
>> Hey guys, this is Dr. Nancy Li of
Product Alliance Forum. I've helped
thousands people land a dream PM job
offer in FANNG companies, a unicorn
startup, and continue get promoted as a
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notified every time I post a new video
every Tuesday. Here's my rocky,
emotional, 17-year journey to become a
US citizen. First of all, you actually
need to decide you actually want to
become a US citizen or not because China
does not allow dual citizenship. So, I
actually felt very, very vulnerable and
very sad to give up my Chinese citizen
because I do love China and I do believe
my country China actually raised me very
well to really love my own country. I'm
proud who I am, proud of being a Chinese
the whole time. I actually do not want
to become a US citizen for really,
really, really long time. But, as many
things were triggered by me wanting have
my parents to live with [music] me in
the US because I need to become citizen
first so I can sponsor the green card
for them move here, live in the US
legally, and also take care of my
children. And [music] I deeply felt sad
that my children does not have enough
grandparents love, and I just want to
have a big family and the love I usually
have that when I grew up, I spent all
the time with my grandparents. My
children wasn't able to have those
opportunities. So, I while my parents
live here in the long term and being
able to see my children 24/7 if we want.
But anyway, I actually feel very sad
giving up my Chinese citizenship for the
family, but as a decision had to make
and sacrifices for the whole family's
happiness. So, actually getting the
green card is harder than getting a
citizenship. It took me 11 years to get
my green card. It's crazy. I got EB1B
green card, but it took me 11 years. It
was because there's a lot of ups and
downs and policy change. For example, I
was stuck in China twice, not able to
come back to the US because my PhD was
in material science. It felt it had
something to do with national security,
so need to do very detailed background
check and to see if I am safe and
qualified to return back to the US. And
then, you would thought H-1B should be
fast to get a green card. However,
there's a lot of presidential changes
because once we change president
multiple times, Trump changed many, many
processes regarding immigration, getting
green card. Even if EB1B was the hardest
one to get and usually should be very
fast, but because of the change of
policy, and my EB1 application was
delayed multiple times. And I had filmed
a separate video break down the details
of me how to get my EB1B green card. You
can check out the video right here with
all the timeline
>> [music]
>> I described there. And even when I apply
for EB1B green card, I had five lawyers.
I consulted five lawyers. Four of them
saying that Nancy, I don't think you can
get EB1B unless you go back to do a
postdoc. But at the time, I'm already a
director product and being a product
manager for like four years. I don't
want to go back to do the postdoc doing
research again. I really love being a
product manager. I don't want to do
material science research. So, I keep on
finding new lawyers. Next one, next one,
next one until somebody was able to take
my case, being able to get into EB1B
categories and without going back to do
research again. But, all the effort paid
back. So, important lesson I really want
to share with you guys is that if one
lawyer said no, keep on looking. Maybe
look for the 10th lawyer until someone
is able to create very strong case for
you to continue to pursue your career
passion as well as getting your green
card and citizenship. However, after a
long wait and in September 2020, I got
my green card in my mail that I
received. Then I entered the second very
long period of wait time to wait for
citizenship. I personally decided to not
go through marriage green card or
marriage citizenship. And I personally
decided to not go through marriage path
to get my citizenship or green card. I
just want to do it on my own. So, that I
don't feel like I'm attached to a man,
you know, I I can get by myself, let me
do it. But, it's much longer process in
terms of wait time. So, usually if you
on marriage green card, you're able to
get citizenship within 3 years wait
time. But, if you getting citizenship by
yourself through work, and you need to
wait for 5 years in the pipeline to
start even applying for citizenship.
However, there's a unique twist.
Surprisingly, when I applied by myself,
my speed is way faster to get my
citizenship compared with my friend
who's going through marriage uh
citizenship or marriage green card
process. Here's a breakdown. I submit my
citizenship application on Easter
Sunday, which is April 5th, 2026.
>> [music]
>> And went really fast, on April 30th, I
already received the fingerprint
invitation. And 3 weeks later, May 17th,
and I received the notification to get
ready for my naturalization exam. And
then June 25th, 1 month later, I flew
back to Miami to finish my
naturalization exam, which is a
citizenship exam. They're going to ask
you a lot of questions about your
history, and you only have two chance to
pass the exam. If you fail both, you
will be permanently denied to become a
US citizen. So, it's like a very
worrying exam. There's 125 questions you
need to understand, remember, and
memorize, and present very well during
the exam. And there is a secret weapon I
recommend everyone to use. Literally,
this is right here, the flash card I got
on Amazon, and that you're able to use
it to prepare for your citizenship exam.
I got a link in the description of the
show note that you can leverage and buy
those flash cards as well. What really
surprised me and worried me during the
naturalization exam was that everybody
else was bringing different kind of
documentation than me. I was so worried.
Literally, there are tons of people who
can see this picture right now. There's
so many people like waiting in line
getting citizenship exam. The room is
full of people. And then everybody else,
there's so many people who went in with
whole stack of paperwork. I went in with
just a piece of paper and my flash card
to prepare for the exam. I went in with
a piece of notice. I went in with a
piece of appointment paper, as well as
my green card. And that's it to prepare
for my exam. And then the everybody else
was have a stack of papers. Oh god, I
forgot something. I'm so worried. And
later on, when I reflect on the self, I
realized that a lot of people went in
through marriage green card or marriage
citizenship. Their husband need being
present for some reason. Like husband
getting interviewed, the wife getting
interviewed, and then had to prove they
are legally married, not married for
green card, not married for citizenship.
Literally, on the wall, there's so many
signs saying that it's illegal to marry
for green card. It's like so much that
against people getting green cards or
citizenship through marriage. That's
what's going on. And then everybody else
went in to prove that true true love,
true marriage. And without me, I was the
only one who said, "Okay, so did I miss
something? Am I going to get get auto
reject?" Well, it turned out it's
[music]
I brought the right documentation. They
brought their documentation. By the way,
fun fact, people also dress differently
for citizenship exam. I dress very
nicely, but people dress like this. They
can see the picture like that. But,
interesting, interesting. Okay. Anyway,
so the officer told me that I passed the
exam on the spot. And it was very
exciting moment. However, when I walked
outside of the exam room, I've seen
other people an old lady crying outside.
I guess she didn't pass. It's very sad.
People actually do not pass. So, be
prepared, everybody. Another important
tips is that arrive early. It took me 2
hours waiting. So, arrive as early as
possible so they can get in early. And
then 3 weeks later, I was invited to the
oath ceremony. It's like crazy, really
fast. It was a dry 17th. It's actually
happened on 8:30 a.m. July 17th. There
are 40 people coming from 23 countries
actually become US citizen. And I
believe they're only Chinese and
actually in all the rooms because in
Miami, so lots of Latino countries were
there. I'm the only Chinese.
Interesting. It was actually a very,
very emotional event. And we have some
guests. We have some immigrant story
getting told. And the judge almost cried
telling his own immigration journey.
He's basically talking about his
grandparents who moved here, started
some grocery store, having two shifts,
trying to raise a family. And his mom
actually remarried three times and
finally [music] raised him being a
single mother with a child. And now he's
a judge. Yeah, immigrant story was told.
And other judges who who were immigrant
here was into the US 40 years ago. Now
they're one of the top judge at the
federal court. And within 40 years, you
can transform a family's trajectory from
someone just working a grocery store all
the way to the top judge in different
federal court. And this truly is very
relevant to another movie I just watched
this weekend. It's called Million Miles
Away. It's about Mexican farmer
immigrant and he his son was able to
become astronaut in the US, but he
continued pushing toward his dream. He
was rejected again and again by NASA. He
continuously improving himself, applied
for NASA for 12 years. And finally and
was able to become astronaut and sent to
the space. To be very frank with you
guys, all those study of your history
hearing all the immigration stories made
me
profoundly realize the value of the
country, which is freedom. It's It's the
most fair playground if you're able to
put in the effort, start own company, or
working for other people, other company,
raise in the organization, pursue the
career and life success you are looking
for. Not like other countries, many many
other country has so much corruptions or
have so much class systems. The people
in the bottom class can never climb up.
I was one of those people who moved to
the US with only $800 in my pocket, got
my PhD, and tried to fight really hard
to get my first job, and get climb in
the US organization. And I became one of
the youngest engineering PhD, and also
became one of the youngest [music]
director product in Fortune 500
companies. This story will never ever
happen in China or in any other country
that I known of, just because people
like us with no money, no place, no say
in the society was able to climb up that
fast. And as long as we work hard, we
never give up on our dreams, this
opportunity is available for everybody.
Therefore, I also have important
question for all the audience right now.
Are you the ones who actually determined
to become a US citizen, continue pushing
towards many important things in your
life? Could be landing a job as a
product manager, could be become the
best mom, could be try I hard to help
your kids go into Harvard. This country
gives everybody a fair opportunities if
you're the one continue pushing,
upscaling yourself, gaining all the
resources to find the shortcut
advantage, continue grow your career.
Everything is possible. I'm living proof
of seeing how exactly has transformed my
life with someone only $800 in my pocket
with my scholarship studying in the US
with no tech background was able to
start my own company as taught over
2,000 product managers and getting paid
$800,000,
$1 million and including starting
salaries as $100,000 as
cannot become true if you or me stop
pushing towards our dream. [music] So,
comment below. Why do you want to become
US citizen? Are you also on the path get
your green card or citizenship? Why do
you want to move to the US? Like this
video and comment below. There's also
important tips and observations I've
seen. I don't know why my citizenship
application process was only 3 months.
But, [music] it took my friend like a
year and half and he still hasn't gotten
his US citizenship yet. And my
hypothesis could be multiple things.
Could be different cities. I'm in Miami,
my friend's in Boston. And could also be
I got through the citizenship green card
by myself. There's less evidence I need
to provide. And my friend got got it
through marriage. So, marriage maybe you
need to have a husband, different people
participate. You need more background
evaluation, many different reasons. Took
my friend more than a year and half and
she's still waiting. And got me and took
me only 3 months. So, short answer is
depends on many different things. If
you're also in the pipeline waiting for
your citizenship, think about what can
you and always believe this. As long as
you keep fighting towards your dream,
you're going to get it one day.
>> [music]
>> Think about your future generation.
You're going to be the next next action
that that could be your kids or yourself
as well. AI product managers are getting
paid the highest in the tech industry up
to $1 million. dollars. So, if you are
someone who is also very determined grow
your career and get the high income
salaries, you may consider growing your
career as a product management. If you
want to learn more about how you are
able to get our help to grow your career
in the US as a product manager, you can
book a call with our team and start your
free consultation. I also know many of
you guys watching this, you might be in
the process of getting your H-1B or
getting your green card. And I have a
separate video where I break down the 11
years journey, the ups and downs, how I
got my EB1B green card was in 11 years,
what strategies and challenges and
inspiration at the years. And feel free
to check out this video right here. This
is Dr. Nancy Li from pmaccelerator.io.
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