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HERE'S DEJAN ROBINSON. TOUCHDOWN ATLANTA TO AJ TERRELL. TOUCHDOWN ATLANTA. Drake London. Terrell's going to pick it. How about that? 40 midfield. It's a foot race. Going to sail it to the end zone. Pitts is there. IT'S AN ATLANTA TOUCHDOWN. WOW. Stride it out. JESSE. TOUCHDOWN ATLANTA. It's intercepted. Savior Watson has GOT ANOTHER ONE. DRIVE HOME SAFELY. >> WELL, we welcome you back to Ticket Master Studios. It's week three in the NFL and the Falcons are traveling to Lambo Field to take on the Green Bay Packers for Thursday Night Football on Prime. And guess who's back? The three of us. I don't know who you guys thought I was talking about. Taylor Vizmore, Derek Brackley, Will McFaten. We're here with you guys for the next 30 minutes or so to get you guys ready for Thursday Night Football. It's going to be a fun one. First of three prime time games in a row, you guys. What's I mean the Falcons typically do pretty well in the prime time games in the the recent history. How fun are prime time games for this team? >> Yeah, I'll bet if I was going to name my like five favorite games over the last couple of years, three or four of them would be prime time games. They always seem to do well when the lights are brightest and they've got a lot of reasons to kind of put their best foot forward on Thursday night. So, I'm I'm really looking forward to getting them back in the national spotlight. >> Yeah, Falcon. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I was just say every player nowadays every game is on TV, right? And it's you could call it regional, but it's national television, but there's always just a little level of more excitement, more anticipation when the prime time games because you know there's nothing else on in the same window. Anybody that's an NFL fan, they are watching the game. >> Everyone will be watching and everyone will be watching because Michael Penn Jr. will return for the Falcons as a starting quarterback for week three. Obviously, this team still looking for their first win of the season, but Michael Penn returns and Kevin Stfansky all the way back in his first ever press conference talked about Michael Penn saying, "I think you see a player on tape who can get through progressions, can layer the ball, can push the ball to all areas of the field, obviously was very productive in college and has had some really, really good moments here in the pros." Guys, I want to ask you about that very last point that uh Kevin Stfansky made. Has had some really, really great moments in the pros. What have you seen from the twoish seasons that you got to see from Michael Penn? >> Taylor, I think you watch moments throughout the course of when we saw him on the field, specifically as a starter, and you say you see moments where you're like, "Oh, wow. That's next level." Or that throw right there is just not normal. Or you see some of the scrambles that he had where he shows the competitiveness, the toughness, the will to win, right? Laying out to get a first down when he's got to he's got to try to stretch the football across the line, right? Right. So, there's a lot of different things that you saw. Now, does he still have a lot to clean up and a lot of growth to have? Yeah, he's still a young quarterback that's that's very early on in his career. And to think that he's going to come out on Thursday night and just catch everybody by storm. I don't necessarily think that's going to be the case. You never know. It could he could come out and be absolutely out of his mind Thursday night, which we all kind of hope for, by the way. Um, but you also have to understand that he's not coming back and he's is probably going to be hitting on all cylinders yet. He's got to get back up to speed. He's got to feel what G he's got to get hit once or twice, right? All those things need to happen for him to kind of be like, >> "Okay, I'm good. I'm back and everything is going to be fine." >> Well, let me ask you this because you bring up a great point of kind of getting him back on track and amping him up a little bit each and every week. I think it's interesting like during training camp everyone talks about that ramp up period for guys and for every other injury it seems like for every other guy they everyone talks about this ramp up period but when it comes to the quarterback it's like we need you back 100% now. What are some expectations realistic expectations to have for Michael Penn who hasn't seen a gain since week 11 of last year? Yeah, I think it's a great point to bring up and and there's kind of a nuance to this a little bit, but by and large the biggest thing that I'm going to be looking for is kind of the the chemistry between Michael Penn and Tommy Reese, the offensive coordinator, and the flow of the game and how they kind of feel each other out and the trust that they have developed in in kind of this short time working together. But Michael Penn isn't kind of just being forced in action the way you might think for a player coming off of injury. He was able to log some time seven on seven everything basically but 11 on 111 early in camp throughout the preseason and then he got into that full team work and he has been in that full team work basically since the final week of the preseason. So, some of the rust may still be there because again the live action when it's a real life NFL game, it's just going to be a different level, right? And you mentioned getting hit. That is going to be crucial as well. But he has been doing the mental reps. He's been developing the chemistry. He's he knows a lot of the playmakers on this offense. So, really, it's going to be, I think, on Tommy Reese to get him comfortable early in this offense, put in plays that he likes and that he feels really good in. And then it's up to Mike to kind of do his part and allow the other 10 guys around him to help as well. >> You know, there's not a whole lot of patience when it comes to quarterbacks. You talked about rust, Will, and and I agree like there could be rust there. But the other side of the coin is I'm telling you from a player's perspective. It's if you're good enough to go back out on the field, we're expecting you to give us your best. Now, whatever that best looks like could be different for everybody. But at the quarterback position, best is different for every single person that's on that team. So, do I expect him to go out and hit six 60 yard passes? No. But you you hope as a quarterback that he goes out and he manages the offense, he gets everybody on the same page and just make great decisions, right? Protect the football, make some plays that we haven't been able to make the first two weeks, and that's how we have the best chance of winning this game Thursday night. >> Yeah. Well, offensive coordinator Tommy Reese did speak to media earlier this week about what he expects to see from Michael Pinnick and what he's already seen from him in practice. Take a look. >> He he knows the system. Like I I told him yesterday like he had a throw to Drake where the timing was exactly where you want it and it's just he's repped for however many months in the passing game, you know, whether it be seven on seven or routes on air. So a lot of those things he's been doing, you know, I think it's just, you know, allowing him to continue to get comfortable and confident in the in the offense and playing out there with everyone and running the show. So the operation piece for me in an 11on1 setting is really the important part and he's done a nice job. All right, so it seems like Tommy Reese is pretty confident in the quarterback in Michael Penn. And what's interesting, guys, is everyone talks about the connection on the field with these guys, but I also love seeing the connection that they have off the field. You look at Michael Penn, he's great friends with Kyle Pittz, great friends with Drake London as well, Bjon Robinson, all these big playmakers that have had struggles getting the ball the these last couple weeks. Rock, let me ask you this. just from being in the locker room and being a tight end and working with quarterbacks. How important is having a strong connection with your quarterback? >> Yeah. Because you can sit next to each other in the locker room and you guys can shoot the breeze a little bit about gaming or whatever you enjoy to do, but then there's also that other element of, hey, let's have this conversation. You know, this one route concept that we've been struggling with. Remember when we watched it on tape the other day? Here's what I'm thinking. Tell me what you're thinking when you come out of the route. Let's make sure that we're on the same page. And oh, by the way, after practice tomorrow, let's get about 15 or 20 reps of that. Those are the conversations that you have that are a little bit different than just, hey, how are you doing on Madden, this is how we're going to be better when we get on the field the other night because of that chemistry and the experience that they have together. We need to be on the same page when you hit that corner route. I need to know exactly the angle that you're coming out because this is where I'm throwing the football. Those are the type of conversations that they're having. >> All right. Well, we'll see what he's able to do on Thursday. But in other news coming out of Flowery Branch on Tuesday, AJ Terrell, the cornerback, was placed on IR with a groin injury. He sustained it during um Carolina Panthers game. He only had six snaps on the game. He left the game early, was questionable to return, and then was obviously placed on IR. But here's the thing, guys. Um, Jeff Albert, the defensive coordinator, did mention that although AJ Terrell is one of the better corners in the NFL, he has no real aversion when it comes to putting CJ Henderson across from Mike Hughes to play quarterback moving forward. So, well, let me ask you this. As someone that watches this team tirelessly, who is CJ Henderson and what does he bring to this defense? >> Yeah, he's got a lot of talent in his own right. you know, he former first round pick who has now been here for kind of going on two seasons and he is steady Eddie when it kind of comes to secondary play. I thought during training camp, he played his role so well. And the biggest thing in this matchup is kind of the height and the size that he offers, which I I think is going to be important when you look at a player like Christian Watson who's 6'4. You're going to need that kind of physical corner that you can match up on. But you mentioned kind of what Jeff Olberg said and I think that's so important especially in his defense where you want guys to be comfortable with their role, understand what everybody else is doing around them and play fast and free. So to not have to kind of roll your coverage over to protect one guy, I think is going to be huge because they like to be aggressive. They like to let their corners go out and play in man. And I think CJ Henderson is more than up to that challenge on Thursday night. Well, Thursday night, it's such a quick turnaround from Sunday, and it was interesting hearing the guys in the locker room afterwards. And Chris Lindstöm, the guard, um, the mainstay guard and one of the bigger captains on this team, was quoted after the game saying, "It's our job to go out and work and get it right. It's supposed to hurt. It does hurt and it's not good enough." But then in the same breath, you have to go back to work and we have no other choice but to kind of go back and work. guys. Obviously, that game on Sunday was not what you wanted to see, especially out of the offense. But, I mean, on the flip side, you have a Thursday night game. You can't keep that that taste in your mouth long. You have to move on. You have to flip the page faster than normal. Rack, let me ask you, in your experience, just quickly, having a Thursday night game after a tough loss such as the Carolina game that we saw on Sunday, how almost almost in a refreshing manner is it to just be able to flush that and move on completely? deserves games, Taylor, where like you can't wait to get back on the field. Like, we can't wait to put out a performance that's a whole lot better and completely different than what you saw last weekend. And quite honestly, a performance that's more like us, if you will, the performance that we are proud of to put on the football field. That's what everybody in this organization is looking for. Now, it's one thing to say it, but it's another thing to go out and do it. Yes, there's going to be a new quarterback out there, but everybody else has got to execute better around better pass protection up front, better run blocking up front, more takeaways on defense, more stuffing the run on the front seven. All of those things have to happen on Thursday night for them to get the result that they're looking for. >> Well, let's talk about Thursday night because we've talked about this Falcons team and we've talked about Michael Penn for about 10 minutes now. Let's talk about who they're actually playing on Thursday night in the in the Green Bay Packers up in Lambo. They're one and one obviously in week one. They lost to in a nailbiting fashion game, if you will, to the Vikings. Such a fun game. Carson Wentz came in and they got the Wentz experience. All right. And then they go and they play the Jets on the road in Metife. They win again in nailbiting fashion in overtime. They win that game off of a really special teams play that we'll get into a little bit later. But now they return home for the first time this season. It's their home opener in Lambeau. Just quickly guys, we'll all start with you. Who are the Packers in the 2026 season? >> I think right now they're doing a good job of playing complimentary football, which I think is important for a team to have success early on and there may not be one part that stands out, but finding a way to win games, whether it's a big return from Skyore in the punt game or whether it's a big play from Jordan Love outside of the structure of the offense or a huge sack from Lucas Vaness, like I think that they are playing really good complimentary football and that's always going to make a team tough to beat. Well, one thing that I do know is that they are a Micah Parson less Green Bay Packers, and that helps any opponent, not just the Falcons, but any opponent that's playing against him. He's arguably one of the best pass rushers in the National Football League. He's not out there. We'll talk a little bit more about the matchups, but I think this team now kind of reverts a lot more to Jordan Love. Like, they got to put him, he's going to put everybody on his shoulders, and he's going to kind of carry this team as far as they can go. >> You bring that up and I I want to mention this graphic that you guys are seeing presented by Microsoft Co-Pilot. What I find so interesting, guys, is the rushing yards. They are not a rushing first team. They're not going to establish their run. They're gonna let Jordan Love air it out. Obviously, you've seen his progression learning under an Aaron Rogers to becoming the starter to becoming the face of the franchise, if you will. What is so dangerous about Jordan Love and really Matt Laflur saying, "We're not even going to mess with the rush right now. We're just going to focus on what we do best, which is airing the ball out." >> Well, I would tell you this. Jordan Love learned behind Aaron Rogers for a couple of years. And Aaron Rogers to me, especially towards the end of his career, was kind of the the king of playing offscript. And you can watch Jordan Love, if if you've watched enough Aaron Rogers, you watch Jordan Love, you see some of that stuff carrying over, some of the offscript, throwing from different arm slots, shovel passing, right? That's the lot of the creativity that he saw from Aaron Rogers that you see coming through his game, but he puts his own spin on it, right? And I don't think he is is as dangerous as Aaron was in his prime. He's still a young quarterback, still growing. Um, you're seeing the connection that he's got with Christian Watson that's been on display early on this season. But yes, I would agree because Josh Jacobs is not there for this team at the running back position. They're probably airing it out a little bit more than they'd like to. Want to be able to establish the run and the stats just showed us there, Will, they have just not been that type of offense this year to establish the run. >> No, they have not been able to establish the run. And I I think that part of that has to do with the offensive line. Part of that has to do with defenses understanding kind of how handicapped they are at the running back position without Josh Jacobs. And so a lot of it has been on Jordan Love. And it is this interesting kind of dichotomy of he operates well in structure. There's quick plays, there's kind of hitters over the middle that he is in the timing of the offense, but then as you mentioned so good outside of structure. So the Falcons are going to have to be ready to plaster. They're going to have to be ready to extend plays and cover those guys, but they're also going to have have to have a plan to kind of get him uncomfortable, I think, quickly and disrupt some of those timing routes. >> It's interesting, guys, because obviously the last two weeks, they both, like we just talked about, they both wanted in both of those games, they wanted to air the ball out, but they're two very different tales. And one of them, you would think if you look at their passing yards, oh, they won that game and they lost the other 353 passing yards against the Vikings in week one. And then they turned it around and had 136 passing yards in the in Metife against the Jets in week two. Two very different tales. Obviously, it was raining in Metife. But I mean, I think it kind of shows. We had Aaron Rogers week one, we had Bryce Young week two, and now we're going up against against this Green Bay Packers offense and they all like to work outside the pocket and they like to be elusive and they like to extend plays by their feet if they can. What have you been able to see from this Falcons defense so far that that can keep a a a quarterback in the pocket and uncomfortable if possible? >> Yeah, there's there's been some encouraging play from the front seven. I think we've seen that throughout the course of the first couple weeks, but it gets overshadowed because the results have not been there and everybody wants to point the fingers at all the bad or the things that have been happening on the offensive side of the ball. I think if you look at this defensive front that does not have James Pierce Jr., does not have Jaylen Walker. They have still been able to provide consistent pressure. We've seen Zidarius Smith get after in each of the first two games finding a way to get after the quarterback. Sansson Ebukam played really well last week. He continues to find a way to play physical up front. Brandon Doris what he provides for this defensive line. Zack Harrison getting an opportunity after originally being released coming back on this after active roster and being a part of that defensive front. So, there's a number of guys that are factoring in. It's not necessarily one guy that's just on a tear the first couple of weeks, but yes, they're going to have to play with great rush lanes, integrity, make sure that Jordan Love does not get outside the pocket or find that rush lane up the middle because we just talked about he is really good off script and his wide receivers know when he's going to make those decisions. >> You mentioned rush lanes up the middle, but the Falcons up the middle of their defense have been so good at getting pressure. They lead the NFL with 23 pressures from the interior defensive line. And one of the things that I love that Jeff Hendrick said today is that this group doesn't mind rushing in a complimentary fashion. There aren't really any mercenary guys who are out there just chasing stats. They want to ultimately impact the quarterback, get to the quarterback, whoever does it. So, it's a great group so far, I think. >> All right. It's going to be a fun game. But coming up, we have matchups to watch and the keys to the game for you guys to get you guys ready for Thursday night next. You >> know, always keep striving at one possession at a time on the field, the right mindset. Um, and so that's your mindset as a player, >> man. We already know, man. We already here, man. Rise up, man. >> Culture is different from any other place. >> Play fast. Let it go. Make it full speed. Lambo Thursday night. Oh my goodness. Sedarius Smith. >> All right, look guys, I know that they show the we'll we'll let them know about Shabuzzi every single week for Thursday night, but that was that was a good hype video. That got me very excited for Thursday night in Lambo. And we got some matchups for you guys to be looking out for on Thursday as you guys watch that on Prime. We'll start with Will. What is the main match up that you're going to be watching for on Thursday? >> Yeah, I don't think we've actually said his name yet, but it's Packers linebacker Edrian Cooper against the Falcons run game and running backs Bjan Robinson and Brian Robinson Jr. A lot of attention, rightfully so, has been placed on Michael Penn Jr. in the quarterback position. But let's not forget where this offense's bread is buttered and that is in the run game. And Edin Cooper, when I asked Tommy Reese what he like or what he saw from him, he just was like, "What a stud." Because he kind of does everything for this Packers defense. He's got 15 tackles. He's got two sacks. He leads the league with five tackles for a loss. He can go sideline to sideline. He can go downhill. He kind of has like a wrestling style tackle. So, it's going to be so much fun, I think, to see how Bjon and his shiftiness, elusiveness in the open field pairs with that, but also how Brian Robinson Junior's kind of downhill, physical, tough running style pairs with it as well. So, that is what I'm going to be watching on Thursday night. I think it's really interesting um going to be able to watch Cooper work against this rushing attack because like we mentioned, we talked about Michael Penn for so long, but establishing this run game will be imperative to get Michael more comfortable being back in the pocket a little bit. Rack for you like how imperative is it to get these guys going early against Ezron Cooper? >> Yeah, I mean this is it's any time that you are step foot on the football field, you want to establish the run even more so when you got that guy that wears number seven. I'm not taking anything away from Brian Robinson, but when the guy that wears number seven gets rolling and the offensive line gets excited, right? When you start seeing the offensive line look over to the sidelines and say, "Keep it coming." Like, "Keep it on the ground." That means they're feeling it. They're open up holes. And we all know what happens when Robinson finds seams. We We know what happens when he doesn't find seams. He still finds a way to make things happen. But that's got to happen once again. You got one of the most electric players in the National Football League. Let's find a way to get him going early. That's how you get Michael Penn Jr. comfortable. >> That is how you get Look, everyone talks about Yes. Everyone, let's get a one. Let me get tackled one time. I'm like, don't tackle me. Run the ball. Leave me alone. Give me a minute. Give me Give me a two second and two. That's what I'm looking for. >> That's why you're here and don't have shoulder pads on. >> Exactly. Exactly. Rock, what is your match up of the game tonight? >> I talked a little bit earlier about Micah Parsons. Remember, he is not going to be in this game. But they still do have a pretty good pass rusher out on the edge, or shall I say on the inside as well, and Lucas Vaness. Now, here's a quick little history lesson. Remember Lucas Vaness was drafted in the first round? You know why or how he was drafted in the first round? Well, it was the trade that sent Aaron Rogers to the Jets, returned a 13th pick to Green Bay, and that's where they selected him, 13th overall. Now, he ends up being the pass rusher of focus because Michael Parson's not there. What I watched on tape from seeing Lucas Vaness is they move him all over the place. You're going to see him standing up a lot of times out on the edge. You're going to see him down in the three-point stance. You're going to see him lined up inside like he's playing a defensive tackle position, maybe over the three technique. The reason they do this is they want to try to find different ways to get him on favorable matchups. So, yes, I'm going to talk about him against the tackles, but he very well could end up going up against our guards or our center just because of how they like to move him around. Now, here's what I will say. I don't think he's got an absolutely tremendous arsenal of pass rushing moves. What he does have is tremendous work ethic and he never stops. So, if there is a play that gets off script where Michael Pennix is going to break it down and he's going to try to scramble, guess what? you're gonna have to look for number 90 because he's going to be there somewhere somehow. He never stops working. That's the type of player he is. He's strong. He wants to try to lock with your tackles. Walk him into the back field and then he's going to work his kind of complimentary moves off of that. So, he's not Michael Parsons, but he still can make a big impact if these tackles and the entire offensive line does not know where number 90 is. >> You know who also never stops working? Jake Matthews. This guy right here and across from him on the other side, Jawan Taylor. He was a limited participant in practice on Monday but was a full participant on Tuesday as well. Working back from a little bit of a rib injury there working against these two guys who have been in the league for a minute now. Will how important is it to set the edge against Lucas Vaness with these two guys at the helm Jawan Taylor and Jake Matthews? >> Yeah I mean he's got massive length so that is going to be important because you want to keep him far away from your quarterback because with those long arms you know he can reach in there he can disrupt it. He can knock the ball away. So, I wouldn't be surprised if if they give some help to the tackles, right? They've got a bunch of really talented tight ends on this roster. They like to go in 12, 13 personnel, so you can have some extra support and protection there. Uh, but Lucas Vaness would be somebody that they need to identify on every single play. >> Yeah. All right. So, here's my matchup of the week. I'm going to go Mike Hughes versus Christian Watson. Look, this is wide receiver one for Jordan Love and has been for a while now. He is electric. If you if you give him the opportunity to get downfield, he's going to get there. And he is not just a 50/50. He is like a 7525 when it comes to a coin toss. He will most likely get the ball. But Mike Hughes, he's going to be up against a really great wide receiver and he will be cornerback one now that AJ Terrell is on IR. Now, here's an interesting thing. Christian Watson does a lot of slant plays and he was doing that a lot against the Jets as well on Sunday. And that's going to put a lot of pressure on your Nickelback, which is the rookie Avon Terrell. Also something to know and something to be watching for on Thursday. Billy Bowman Jr. has been a full participant in practice these last couple of days. In the last couple of weeks though, he's only been a limited participant coming back from his Achilles injury. So something to watch on whether or not Billy Bowman Jr. will be back as the Nickelback going against a guy like Christian Watson or if it's all going to be up to rookie Avon Terrell. Let me ask you this quickly guys before we move on to the keys that to the game. When you're in Thursday Night Football, you're in Lambeau Field and you're a rookie, never been in this position before, and you got Christian Watson, someone who's very good at his job, doing slants against you all the time. What should we be looking for in Avon Terrell? >> Well, this is the reason why you come and play at this level because um number one, you're at Lambeau Field. Number two, you're likely going to be targeted because you are a rookie. That's what happens. Okay? They like to find the young ones to see if they're ready to play. Uh, but number three, I think a lot of the things that we've talked about with Avon Terrell, he's physical, never backed down to a challenge, was always in the mix when he was at college in Clemson. I don't think he's going to back down for the challenge. And once again, this is prime time. You want everybody in the nation to see how good you are is you come out on Thursday Night Football and you shut them down. You knock a couple passes away. If there's a deflected pass, you find a way to get an interception. That's how you get people start talking about a rookie and you get other teams down the road saying, "Uh, yeah, this guy's pretty good, so we don't necessarily need to pick on him." All the challenges that you want are right in front of you. And guys, just so you know, I never met a quarterback that is not confident in himself. >> Oh, they are all very confident, especially Mike Hughes. He had a very confident game against the Steelers, hoping to bounce back after his game against Carolina Panthers. So, be watching out for Mike Hughes going against Christian Watson and all the other wide receivers of that team. And you mentioned making a name for yourself as a rookie. And I do remember a couple maybe it was last season a rookie wear number 31 did make a name for himself in those prime time games and now it's kind of up it there of like maybe one of the best safeties that isn't talked about enough that's a is Xavier Watts watch for him as well watch for everybody on our team honestly just watch everyone have a great time you guys. It's now time for the keys to the game presented by Wills Fargo. We will start with you will what is your key to the game? >> Yeah you got to finish this your drives with points offensively. They've got 16 points on the season. Turnovers have played a role in that. Penalties have played a role in that. Miss field goals have played a role in that. I need you to end your drive with points. I don't care if that's three or six or seven. Just get some points on the board when you've got opportunities. >> They have yet to find the red zone in the first two games of the season. Obviously, that's the easiest way to get a point, right? Is to get into the red zone and getting the ball to the playmakers is a way to do that. But Rock, let me ask you this. When you do get in the red zone as a former player, how difficult can it get to score when you are in the red zone? >> Yeah, it can because the field compresses, right? So, defensive backs know that they don't have to backpedal. They don't have to turn their hips and run as much because they know they got the back stop of the end line back behind them. So, the field compresses, this is where scheme becomes so important, right? This is where your offensive coordinator and finding creative ways to get guys open. Whether that's rub routes, whether that's dis disguising, it's motions, it's stacks. These are all the different things that coordinators try to do when they're sitting upstairs in their offices and in their uh coaches meetings saying, "How do we get somebody open in the red zone?" Because if you just want to sit back and play plain vanilla, oh, we're going to run four slants. Good luck. Not going to work too well in the NFL. >> Well, and there's a way to get to the red zone. I know this offense is chopping at the bit to get there. And that's your key to the game. What is your key to the game this week? >> You got to play with discipline. Like this is just sometimes you don't have to get overly creative. And what do I mean by play with discipline? You can't beat yourself, right? What did we see in week one? We saw turnovers. We saw penalties. Penalties backing up this offense, not getting them in scoring territory. Will, what do we see in week two? Turnovers. Right. Here's the here's the analogy I'm going to tell you. It is so hard to beat anybody in the National Football League. You want to know what's even harder? Beating yourself and trying to beat somebody else in the National Football League. And unfortunately, that's what's happened with Atlanta. They've been beating themselves the last couple of weeks. So, just go out. Let's not turn the football over. Let's not have a lot of penalties. We understand a couple of them are going to happen. You just can't have second and 20, third and 18. All those type of situations make it extremely difficult to score points. So, play disciplined. Don't make the critical mistake. And I think we'll have a much better chance at winning this game. >> Yeah, I mentioned this last week, guys. My key to the game last week was to um the turnover margin basically was mine and they have not won the turnover margin yet. They are negative6 in the turnover margin in the first two weeks in the NFL. Obviously, most of those coming last week against the Carolina Panthers. But here's the interesting thing that we've already talked about is that this Green Bay offense is not a run first, pass second. It's actually opposite, pass first, rush second. This is a really good opportunity to get some picks down the field, get some opportunities going and get some turnovers as well. Something else to mention in that game last week against the Jets, they had five fumbles. They recovered four of them. Those are main moments that can flip the script. It can change the energy of the game with one fumble. They fumbled it five times and they only they only gave one away. So, there are going to be some opportunities on Thursday night to get some turnovers on the board for this defense. My key to the game though, let's get to me. Okay, >> let's go. >> Let it fly. Okay, I'm going to keep it simple. I'm going to keep it simple. Let it fly. Michael Pennix Jr. is back as the as the quarterback for this team. And what does he do best, guys? He lets that thing fly. He can flip the field on a single throw. And what I mean by let it fly is when he's letting it fly, he's confident. I need Michael Pennix to play confident this week because he hasn't played in a while. And he's been saying, I want to be back and I want to be fully back mentally. And that means I want to be back and being be playing confident again. So let that thing fly. Be confident. Go out and beat the Packers in Lambo Field on their home opener. It would be great for Michael Pennix and his confidence. >> Listen, just kind of try to harness the the f last couple of weeks when you're standing on the sideline, you got an earpiece. Yeah. >> Like we do, and all you're doing is just listen to the guess what? Now it's time for you to actually go out there. Not only go out there and play what you love to do, which we know all these players want to be out in the field, but go out there and make a difference. So, I love it. Like, let it fly. Maybe a little bit more high percentage throws to start, but then once you feel good, hey Penn, we ready to see that arm. Let that thing go. Let that thing fly. All right. Well, the P the Packers are hosting the Falcons in Lambeau Field on Thursday Night Football on Prime. For those of you who do not have Prime, it will be available for you in market on Fox 5. It will be the same exact call with Kirk Herbstreet and that cute Peter. I love that dog so much. You guys have no idea. He has like merch now. It's insane. But we um we will see you next week. It's going to be a while until you see us again. next week on Thursday to get you guys ready for the New Orleans Saints going down to New Orleans to the Big Easy to for another divisional matchup. Until then, we will see you on Thursday. Bye, guys.