Video summary
The lecture introduces the systems approach within Prognostics and Health Management (PHM), emphasizing that while AI and machine learning are vital enablers for prediction, the core focus is on managing complex engineering plants rather than isolated electronic cards. In this context, a "system" refers to an entire plant where mechanical, electrical, electronics, and thermal-hydraulic components work synergistically to ensure reliability and safety, with safety being the overriding factor. The lecture highlights that these systems are inherently nonlinear due to the human factor and the intricate interplay of hundreds of components, requiring a holistic view where improving safety directly enhances availability and reliability, as any safety issue inevitably leads to a loss in operational performance.
A central theme of the discussion is the distinction between active and passive systems, which is crucial for defining the scope of PHM implementation. Active systems involve components with relative motion that require power input, such as pumps or circuit breakers, whereas passive systems function without external power or moving mechanical parts, relying instead on physical principles like gravity or pressure differences to perform safety functions. The lecture details a classification of passive systems into categories based on the presence of signal inputs, external power, and moving fluids or parts, noting that while Category A passive systems are well-understood, validating more complex Categories B and D remains a significant challenge due to the need to ensure reliability under diverse environmental conditions like seismic events or extreme temperatures.
The application of PHM is presented as a strategic bridge between active and passive domains, particularly for extending the lifecycle of aging infrastructure. Since monitoring every subsystem is prohibitively expensive, the lecture advocates for a risk-based prioritization strategy where implementing PHM on critical components that contribute to the majority of risks yields the highest safety benefits. This approach allows for life extension strategies, such as moving nuclear plants from 40 to 60 years or beyond, by accurately assessing remaining useful life and managing degradation in passive structures like piping and concrete vessels. Ultimately, the goal is to integrate PHM seamlessly into both active and passive systems to address common cause failures and ensure that safety margins are maintained throughout the plant's extended operational life without introducing new vulnerabilities.
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Hi friends. So uh our subject
prognostics and health management a
systems approach uh and all of you you
would have seen that AI and ML uh that
is artificial intellig in intelligence
machine learning even and deep learning
uh have been playing um very vital role
uh in prediction actually. So uh it will
not be wrong to say that that a IML are
the enable uh enabler in uh uh this
course or the subject uh that is
prognostics and health management. Uh
second point is uh we are all talking
about systems approach. Um uh in open
literature you will find uh uh systems
approach or systems PHM and all. But if
you see those approaches they are rem
remaining limited to I think on a
electronic card um or some dedicated
system uh but when uh why we are calling
system here system means plant. Okay. uh
a a complex engineering system uh where
uh all mechanical, electrical,
electronics
uh and thermal hydraulics they play a
synerggetic role uh to ensure that the
plant's uh performance uh is excellent
in terms of uh reliability and uh
safety. Of course, safety is an
overriding factor. Um so when you use
the word safe uh system uh instead of
hardware only uh it has got lot of uh uh
implication and those implications that
we'll be talking about uh which enables
PHM to be used uh as part of a complex
engineering system uh and and then uh it
works both ways uh it improves the
system reliability uh and at the same
time it improves the safety
These two things they otherwise look uh
uh opposite uh but or contrary but it is
not that uh it is not that because if
there are some safety issues the plant
loses its availability uh and
reliability also um so um
in this lecture at least for the purpose
of this lecture we'll see that we are
meeting both the ends okay of course the
path is uh difficult because it requires
R&D
research and development, data
collection and then understanding the
degradation which is tough task but once
the ball is set in motion uh probably we
should be able to solve uh the problems
uh when it comes to uh using this
approach at the plants level. So when I
use plant it means uh uh uh when I use
the word system means it means plant
here in this lecture. So and the core
module that is systems approach. Of
course we are not able to talk of um u
many dimensions of systems approach but
we are uh we are covering the essential
features uh which are at the core of
systems modeling. So this lecture that
is uh first lecture 10 oblique one is an
introduction to the uh subject. Okay.
So uh when I talk about the u system uh
what it means uh there is a input and
there is output uh which is enabled by
uh synergetic operation of many many
components uh you can say almost like
500 to 1,000 type of component and then
uh each one if you see their rating
their construction feature and all that
it might go in lags and this
system they have to work in tandem to uh
enable delivery. Okay. Uh and then there
is a human factor. So that means these
system they cannot be considered as
linear system uh which is a much more
simpler option but they are they they
exhibit a nonlinear characteristic uh
whether uh whether it is reliability or
safety. Um and that is where we talk
about the complex engineering system. um
uh we have uh I tried to give a sort of
a uh feeling uh that you know if here is
the energy is produced. These are the
symbolic for steam generator. These are
inlet outlet from the uh for from from
the core uh where and then it is a
barrier. This kind of barrier you find
only in uh nuclear systems where in case
of in case of a very rare accident event
probability uh the the hazard should not
go out. So they are basically physical
barrier physical pive barrier
essentially passive barrier so that
everything is contained but these these
are basically even for the rare pro uh
occurrences these kinds of provisions
are made and everything is housed in one
containment. Okay. And then you have
many equipments you required to support
the uh operation of the system. Uh there
are some cooling towers they are
required. Uh and so you can see this
this is a uh cooling tower of uh a
nuclear power plant. This is the ST uh
you know. So these essential features of
a uh um system that I have maybe maybe
next slide I'll take little more time to
explain on this. Um so we will discuss
here. Uh first will be the introduction
uh for this course. uh that is uh week
10 uh then state-of-the-art and
requirement of PHM that we'll discuss at
the system level. Okay. Then there is a
uh riskbased approach for system
modeling. So here you can say
essentially uh probabistic risk
assessment plays a key role uh for
modeling and uh since we are saying that
the safety should be overriding factor
the orientation of risk comes when we
discuss a system.
approach and then of course we have to
identify and prioritize uh for PHM
implementation because uh PHM cannot be
uh can cannot be u facilitated on each
and every uh SSC or subsystems uh
because uh because uh it is a very
expensive proposition uh PHM because not
only PHM implementation it's a
monitoring and then corrective action
program that also have to be equally
efficient.
So, so um we are talking about ident
identification and prioritization. Uh so
that um I I would explain my point that
if I do
PHM implementation on very important uh
SSC uh that is 20% of uh SSC then it in
terms of safety improvement and
reliability improvement it gives me 80%
benefits. So, so, so that's how it is
and for remaining 20% uh we can have our
usual routine uh approach uh okay and
that's it that is what it works when you
when because everything is uh centered
around uh having a operation and
maintenance management system so so if I
can take care of 20% component which
were contributing to the 80% risk uh
then I have um my job is very Well done
actually. Um so because I have a I have
a safety significance things that I have
covered actually uh PHM performance
metrics and standards. Um there are not
uh there are supporting standards
available like condition based
maintenance uh maintenance management
standards are available but targeted
prognostics and health management
standard there are few and I have got
one uh probably I can say here even I
was involved in this standard
development it was it e standard so I
can talk about it and systems approach
and overview it's just concluding so
five lectures and the these are the five
titles okay uh so let Let's try to see
uh how we see a uh first we'll we'll see
what is system. We know in thermal uh
thermodynamics we studied system is
having a interconnecting part and
surrounded by a boundary and there is a
input and there is output. But now this
was something 30 years or maybe before
that this definition was but now we have
a complex engineering system. So we need
to redefine uh the system and they have
to be in different category. So that
we'll try uh here and then I've been
talking about I think you would have
seen some slide uh slides on complex
system in uh an engineering plant when I
say system word here because you know a
plant is made up of many sub systems and
subsystems and then components like
that. So uh so safety system process
system then then that safety system will
have many subset system. So when we say
sift system here
it might mean the system itself or it
might mean an uh engineering plant
complex engineering plant. Okay. And uh
complex engineering plant we know that
uh number of components are u uh used uh
you know and the they have to work uh
reliably reliably to ensure the output
and safely also. So and then the human
factor is one of the important uh thing
in the uh complex engineering system.
uh and then you have a software, you
have a hardware and uh you have many
many new components into the systems uh
which are like you know first of kind
and all that. So that that that makes
the situation u complex and sometimes
challenging also. the major categories
and requirement that we will see what
are the different uh major category of
systems uh and then uh what what are the
integration requirement there and of
course business case and major metrics
you know uh that we'll be discussing
again the same photograph I have given
you know um because I was talking about
a complex system uh probably you can
understand that you know uh the basic
objective of this system is that u even
whatever Whatever is the rare
possibility for an for an accident the
public should not get affected. You know
this is the bottom line. So that means
risk level should be very high. And u uh
here we are taking a case of uh nuclear
systems. Nuclear systems why we have
taken this case I'll be explaining but
basically because the nuclear industry
has maintained uh high standard of
safety. Okay. um 430 plus plants are
operating world over and what we talked
about probabistic risk assessment has
been done for all the 430 plants and
many other uh complex systems uh to
ensure that the traditional method is
either complemented or supported in a
manner that the net benefit is on
ensuring higher level of uh safety. So
uh uh I showed you outside view of the
plant. A simple uh uh reactor core is
there and this is a fuel which produces
heat and uh then uh how it uh it happens
that it is heat is being removed and it
is being put into the system. Okay. And
there is a coolant uh the heat exchanger
which is getting cooled and it is uh
removing the heat. So coolant in coolant
out over here. And then we have a
turbine which is located outside the
reactor building. Uh and uh where the
steam goes and uh then we turbine
rotates produces power and there is a
condenser and again it will join back
the the closed loop actually and this is
just a symbolic thing actually. So it is
something like I was trying to explain
what is engineering uh energy system uh
they operates. Uh okay. So if I take a
clue from here um what definition I'll
give for a system um because it has got
input it has got output uh sometimes it
is passive sometime it is very active so
let us try to define uh a system is a
group of
interacting or interrelated elements
there are component which are related
and they are there to do certain jobs uh
to set a rule to form a unified hole.
What is the system? So it will deliver a
flow then it will go back and all. So
this you can say talk in terms of a rule
that it will take a suction it will
provide a ditcher and to heat exchanger
and heat exchanger will cool it. So like
we talk in production rules uh
anticedent and consequences. Okay
consequences here you can take it as an
output. A system surrounded and
influenced by its environment. Yes, we
talked about uh that you know the system
operation will be smooth if the
environment is good. Let's say um my
plant is operating if the uh if the
temperature in the plant increases my
electronics the first one if a coolant
uh received if a if a oil uh lubrication
oil uh is received and if the quality is
not proper then also so it it defines
about a complete ecosystem or
environment where uh even it includes
procurement and uh this thing and then
what we say is the the physical Physical
system has a boundary. Physical system
has a boundary. I mean making a boundary
or imagining a boundary is uh up to us.
Suppose if I am analyzing a pump then I
can create a boundary around the pump by
dotted line and I'll say I'll be doing
analysis of this. So in that boundary
one is inlet line one is another is
outlet line. There could be power supply
also that will create a boundary. So
similarly for a plant also there is a
boundary that means it is it is u it is
generating energy extracting energy that
the steam produced is being translated
it into electrical production and then
finally electricity is output and then
finally it joins back and it operates
in. So what is our system you know so
system has a boundary that point we
should not uh okay and it is surrounded
by some external element but we are
focusing on the system alone in that
sense systems are the subject of study
of system theory and other system yes we
are studying those systems only uh and
we are seeing what is the input probably
next slide will explain it in better way
so it can have a input and output but
that should be indicated in and out of a
system okay Then engineering systems are
of two major types. Active and passive
side like and then it has got their own
definition. It is not a very universal
definition of passive and active system.
But luckily uh we have our own uh
translation of active and passive system
for the purpose of our PHM and then
international level also uh this
definition have been clarified keeping
in view the system requirement. So let
us have that approach what we require
and how to how we have to define. So uh
it can be a closed loop, open or
isolated. I'll show you in the next
slide. Um this thing I have uh taken
from this source I have adopted I would
say I changed little bit here but
essentially the things remain um by and
large same actually. So broad category
of engineering systems are like like you
know we have a two matter and energy how
they are transitioning from the system
or not matter transitioning from the
system or not or it is remaining
isolated that enables us to define the
closed system open system and isolated
system. First let us see the closed
system. Closed system receives material
matter. Okay. And then it exchanges
energy to and fro. Some energy uh it
will give out and uh and it will give in
also some energy. So energy is exchanged
that is from inside to outside and from
outside to inside. So this these are
called closed systems. Okay. Open
systems are what? where the matter and
energy both are exchanged okay from the
surrounding okay and then there are
isolated system where energy and matter
both goes in um we have some vacuum
chamber where we are performing some
experiment we create a vacuum and then
we supply uh energy and the matter and
the experime experiments are performed
uh in isolated way Okay. So they have
different examples uh you know like now
this definition is very fundamental to
understand what are the two uh or three
categories of the system that we have.
This is one way of looking at it. But
basically the subject we are dealing in
it requires us to understand the active
and passive system. Okay. So the concept
of active and passive system uh passive
system concept it was there even 50
years ago. Uh for simple example
you have a plant and it is producing
energy and if any disturbance come the
plant will shut down but the still the
cooling is required. So it will provide
by uh by elevated tank uh which is kept
at higher height uh so that water will
flow one uh check wall which is again
called as a passive system it will cool
it will open up due to pressure
difference. Okay. It will open up and it
will cool the system. Okay. So even
those kind of systems are called passive
cooling system because only one check
wall was there. So it is not purely
passive but it is a intermediate stage
because in check walls uh there is one
motion that is opening and closing other
than that and it doesn't require any
energy. It is the pressure difference
that operates. So essentially it can be
put in the category of passive system.
For the purpose of this lecture, we will
have uh we will define the active and
passive system. Uh you know and uh and
in fact there are uh there are domains
where the classification further defines
rating like passive 1, pive 2, pive 3 or
active 1, active 2, active 3. for our
lecture also in terms of in the context
of nuclear systems we'll deal with those
things because the these are the things
which are uh which are relevant for our
study uh because uh active and passive
is one thing but in between our phm
comes you know active systems are not
preferred like say pump I want to avoid
a pump into the uh system because if it
if it fails uh then it it will pro it
will uh uh it will be a disturbance in
the plant in terms of safety in terms of
availability also but PHM comes in
between uh and the question is whether
PHM can detect the uh degradation a
priority so the question of uh question
of the pump failure doesn't arise and
then management action can be initiated
so uh that is why we are discussing the
active and passive systems um whether
online monitoring or analysis or
intelligent algorithm whether it can
help. Of course in complex engineering
system accepting new uh they are the
very conservative in nature. So unless
until they see that there is no flip
side of any new system even it could be
a IML um they are not used. So it has to
be subjected to regulatory it's a
different domain altogether you know. So
active systems are component that
actively engage in processing managing
and if I have pump it has to start then
only process will start and then only uh
management action will start whether
what should be the uh mode of plant
operation and all that you know they
require power. Of course pump require a
power and are dynamic in nature. fluid
is recirculated. The pump is uh the uh
the uh the system itself is having
relative motion. So they are active
components you know. So so this is one
hint at what is active system. A
specific attribute of active system is
to have a relative motion. Pump has a
relative motion. The impeller has a
relative motion compared to the casing.
uh and uh bearings are also rotating but
there is bearing may inner race uh
doesn't have uh any relative motion with
the uh shaft it is moving with the shaft
okay and in in principle that we are
talking about okay so um but then
actually they are active system because
there are relative motions occurring uh
in in the uh in the system itself okay
uh pump impeller example of course uh we
have a shaft bearing and All that a
reciprocating piston moves to and fro
and uh that is why it is called an
active systems you know but the same the
active systems are not like because
there is some phenomena of uh erosion uh
you know uh or friction which is
happening. So it it's uh it uh plays out
in terms of the life of the component of
in between failure also due to maybe
lubrication issues or now there are
having a non-lubricating
materials. Uh so they bring in the new
component of the issue. So but then
there is a active uh active systems are
there even if you talk about electronics
there is a breaker electric breaker
which uh which moves for closing and
opening uh the contacts uh circuit
breakers. So they are example of active
system.
Now let us see what is passive system.
So just uh high higher level
characteristic and we defi define the
passive systems are those system where
there is no mechanical relative motion
between two mating parts. Further they
do not require energy input or power for
their function.
I want a flow. Okay. So pressure
difference can be created and it can
have the flow. I I I have a device
which ruptures on its own. So there is
no relative motion. So uh though rupture
itself is a high energy phenomena but
then we are not seeing any mechanical
moment. In principle we have decided
when the pressure goes up it ruptures.
Simple. Okay. For example, a piping
system delivers the flow without any
relative mechanical motion about of
course flow flow is uh you know
symptomized as a uh as a motion but the
piping doing its uh its function
providing a barrier uh to contain the
pressure fluid and that is doing its
job. It is facilitating flow. So but
there is no movement like pump there's
no movement the in the piping sections a
civil foundation support the structure
it is a excellent example of a it is
doing its job but without any movement
for greater part the electronic board
uh is a passive system because there are
no relative motion except when we have a
uh relay uh or you know few devices
which have some like uh relay or
switches which have some motion so it is
a paceive system and when you analyze a
PC system to a great uh extent our
problem is solved. Why? Because now you
have to look into the component uh its
operational characteristic and we can
deise a PHM relatively easily. It's not
even that also requires us to go into
the physical properties how the
component degrades which are the
environmental stresses they play over
the uh degation. uh so like that you
know um in reliability for the purpose
of reliability and risk engineering it
is accepted that passive systems SS are
more reliable and compared to the
activism this is in principle true but
designing a passive system which is
meeting its intended function that is
removing let's say if I talk about the
uh if I talk about the complex system it
is removing the heat and for different
conditions and still maintaining the
margin. Uh that requires a complete
understanding of thermal hydraulics.
Okay. What are the what are the losses
that are taking place across the system
and what is the that critical energy
input that is required to keep the flow
in the loop so that the heat is removed
on perpetual basis like nuclear reactor.
There is a decay heat removed. The decay
heat keeps producing even if it is 5%
1%. But that should be removed and it is
very essential. So my pive system should
be working in that fashion. Then only it
will call yes it is a P system and it is
reliable also. It is addressing all the
situation including common cause
failures. If there is some outside uh
flooding, fire or you know any other
phenomena which might disturb uh the my
loop cooling loop it becomes a problem
actually. So it has to be tested and
validated from from different angles. Uh
of course elevation provides a very big
advantage for keeping it uh keeping the
function going. Even some
electromagnetic phenomena we have to
take care of it and all that. then
mechanical relative motion uh uh power
supply requirement and uncertainty
should be evaluated uh to ensure the uh
reliability of pive system.
So like I was giving this example there
is a reactor there is a fuel hot water
goes in it is a py system you you don't
have any active component here but then
this loop design is a master art
actually because it has to satisfy all
the um all the scenarios known scenarios
or anticipated scenarios under which it
is going to operate. Let's say simple
example if this loop is located at some
in in a uh to uh place where the
temperature goes to minus30. So that
means in that condition also it should
work if the temperature goes to plus 30
if there is a seismic uh issue. So uh so
in different condition it should work
that the the heat is continuously being
removed and it is cooled and then of
course I have made a distinct boundary.
It is a continuous one and there is a
fuzzy boundary in between you know like
gradual gradation and then only cold
water. Cold water means it is not
exactly cold water compared to the hot
water it is get temperature is down and
it is entering here again heat decay
heat is even if the it is shown decay
heat is produced. In fact the the plants
are being built even with the full power
operation also the passive mode heat it
is removed and that is the how gravity
works uh principle is utilized how
ensure that it is safe. So IA to a great
extent they have provided uh some
definition of uh passive systems you
know and this IA tech I have given the
reference over here. Um category A
passive system what they call this
category is characterized by the
following. No signal input. There is no
signal input here. No external power
source. There is no power source
available here. No moving mechanical
part. And no moving working fluid. So we
are not betting this last matrix. Okay.
So no moving but here there is a working
fluid which is going going on here. So
then this is not a a category system. It
will fall into the uh B. This category
is characterized by no signal input, no
external power, no force, no uh
mechanical parts but moving working
fluid. So only working fluid is moving.
So this is a category B uh passive
systems. So uh then category C system.
Category system is this category is
characterized by no signal input, no
external power nor force but moving
mechanical moving mechanical parts
whether or not moving work flu working
fluids are this thing. So like if I
install a U non-return check wall in a
cooling circuit the wall open opens
because of when the plant was operating
uh there was a pressure wall was kept
open and the moment pressure got uh
reduced because of plant shutdown the
the the decay heat removal fluid uh
water enters and a non-written wall
opens it okay again when you start the
plant the uh the fluid can flow in one
direction only so it will it closes back
and it seals the system and then again
you can operate the plant in a closed
loop. Probably one figure would have
been sufficient but I think you would
have understood the idea over here. Uh
category system uh this category
addresses the intermediary jon when
active and passive where the uh where
the execution of safety function is made
through passive methods as described in
the previous uh categories except that
an external signal is required. If I
have to open a wallve, I require a
signal and then rest will be passive.
Okay. So this is called D category
system. Okay. And then we know that PC
pive system A design principles are
generally well studied and design uh
designed in accordance with the
internationally regarded. So this thing
is matured actually. But B and D a lot
of work is going on here and then it is
a complex task to validate the complete
procedure for B and D category of
passive system. Um you know so so what
what we are saying is uh there are still
some challenges when we want to see a
practical
uh practical passive systems and it has
to be proved or validated again in all
the condition that it will ensure safety
uh first and then reliability of the uh
the complex system.
Okay. So context of PHM as I had
mentioned just now PHM comes between if
there is a uh there is a move from
active system to passive systems what
quotient of uh safety and reliability we
can achieve through PHM. Point number
one and point number two we successfully
successfully go to PHM uh the Pive
system and then PHM may not be
applicable for the pump or moving
components but then again the piping
system you need to have health
management especially when the plant
completes 30 40 years or if there is no
correct propagating and all those kind
of things. uh that means in the passive
part itself some deviation and uh
probably PHM will fit very well and
that's why it should become part whether
active system or passive system it
should become part of the because the
problem with the pipeline and passive
components is they become the life
limiting component of the system.
Suppose if I have to uh if I have to uh
uh change uh some part it could be
concrete it could be uh some vessel it
could be lining uh normally we keep
provision of replacing pel also in once
in lifetime but then but then uh that is
the last wish if I can ensure through
PHM that there is a remaining useful
life and I can go for extension of life
of the plant from 40 years to 60 years
or 60 years to 80 year or 80 year to 100
Who knows we have already gone from 40
years to 60 years and there are
applications moving in nuclear from 60
to 80. So so PHM can play a huge role
there. Only uh only objective here is
that PHM should be PHM again should be
reliable. It should not add to the new
issues into the system. So aging
management and life extension this
situation comes that you know there are
some parts they replacing that part is
uh you know uh it is uh prohibited um so
what to do so that means you continue
with the aging management that is uh and
then health monitoring techniques online
and you can go for remaining part of the
life so that means PHM will be adding up
there actually I'll show you on one
slide all these things how it work
design stage um why not if I know that
this plant plant is going to operate for
100 years why not have a provision right
in the beginning itself okay and then
common cause failure um common cause
failure should be avoided these are
related to not only uh environmental
temperature humidity ventilation it
could be even seismic could be a common
cause okay um even low temperature uh
which is not considered in the design
and operation minus 40 and all it could
be a common cause uh high temperature
also could be a common cause. So and
then micro electronic system uh with
redundant trains are the special case
for prognostics. So for electronics it
is very simple. You have PHM so that
safety and reliability is improved and
when they become old it is easier to
replace the electronic systems. In fact
in some plant I I I can tell you uh the
electronics and monitoring systems and
all they are replaced every 5 years or
10 years because replacing electronics
is easier compared to mechanical and
structural systems.
So here we saw um introduction,
definition, background, active passive
system probably you would have got at
least in terms of complex system you
would have understood that you know uh
how uh and where PHM fits into it uh uh
in the system and the conclusion and
remark and reference. Our conclusion is
u uh plan different stages which we'll
discuss in the next slide we should
study and a very sensible use of
prognostics and health management
technique. uh in fact there could be a
debate also whether the PHM monitoring
should happen like any other process
parameter in three channels or one
channel um because we are monitoring
threat you know so one channel a latent
failure and we will not know okay and
some degradation mechanisms are so fast
and we have to remember that the rate of
uh like fracture if once it becomes
critical then we have to have have a
very faster system to respond otherwise
uh you know so so it requires That's
real R&D efforts to have a complete PHM
for at system level. At component level
you have your task limited. You can
apply it. You'll get the advantage also.
But for system level the gains are like
it can uh it can be somewhere between
between active and passive system and it
can even support the passive system. So
we have passive system in terms of the
unanticipated
uh conditions and we can have a better
system. Yeah, these are some references.
Uh uh I have indicated in the slides set
for active and passive system. This is
number three and there is some closed
loop system you know open system here
and international atomic energy agency.
Actually the good thing is
IA provides lot of reference documents
where at international level there is a
synergy uh it creates and they are used
to improve safety and reliability. So
both this uh we are talking about I
international atomic energy agency
document. Thank you.