Wandering Supermassive Black Holes and Where to Find Them – Dr. Michael Tremmel
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Dr. Michael Tremmel presents a compelling argument based on advanced computer simulations suggesting that galaxies like our Milky Way likely host multiple supermassive black holes, not just the one currently known at their centers. While stellar-mass black holes are common byproducts of supernovae, supermassive black holes are millions or billions of times more massive and play a crucial role in shaping their host galaxies by driving powerful outflows of gas. These giants often become visible when they consume surrounding material, emitting intense radiation that can outshine entire galaxies, allowing astronomers to detect them even at the edge of the observable universe using telescopes like Hubble and Chandra. However, detecting black holes from the early universe is challenging because only the rarest and brightest ones are visible through such distant light.
To understand the origins and growth of these cosmic behemoths, scientists rely on simulations that model galaxy mergers, which naturally lead to the interaction of central black holes. When two galaxies collide, their central black holes eventually form a binary system and merge, emitting gravitational waves detectable by future space-based observatories like LISA. Tremmel's PhD research utilized a massive simulation called "Romulus," which modeled a vast volume of the universe containing dark matter, gas, and stars over hundreds of millions of years. This computational experiment revealed that while some galaxy mergers bring black holes together quickly, others result in one black hole being left stranded after its host galaxy is torn apart by tidal forces from a larger neighbor.
The most significant finding from these simulations is the existence of "wandering" supermassive black holes that remain invisible to current detection methods. In many merger scenarios, a smaller galaxy containing a black hole gets destroyed as it falls into a larger galaxy, leaving the black hole alone in the vast halo outside the main galactic disk. Without a supply of gas to accrete and shine brightly, these isolated black holes drift on wide, random orbits for billions or even trillions of years without being seen. Consequently, massive galaxies that have undergone numerous mergers throughout their history are predicted to contain several such hidden black holes scattered throughout their halos, representing a new population of objects that current gravitational wave detectors like LISA may not be able to observe directly.
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is it is a former University of
Washington graduate student Meetup
got his PhD no I have to call the doctor
Michael travel from the earth thanks for
having me
so today I'm gonna talk about some
simulations that we have Ronnie that
predicts that galaxies like our Milky
Way actually have several gigantic
supermassive black holes
wandering about that we don't see and
maybe we'll never see but they exist out
in the galaxy floating around and so
that's what I hope they convince you of
in this talk but first I'm going to
start from the beginning so when I talk
about black holes there's sort of two
two types of black holes that now we
think about the first one are
stellar-mass black holes and these are I
find them to be a bit pedestrian if I'm
honest so I know
hello miss Lu style mass black holes but
there's there's many of them in every
galaxy mean we know about them for a
long time every vein acid star which
there's lots of them in the galaxy ends
up exploding as a supernova but the the
only part that explodes is actually the
outside of the star but the inside the
core of the star collapses and forms a
black hole which you can't see because
you can't see a black hole but this
black hole is about the mass of our Sun
so you think about it incidences these
black holes are like if you take all the
mass that our son has and cram it into
an infinitely small point in a black
hole and they're very cool you know if
you're into that what I like to think
about are a bit more exotic than that
supermassive black holes these black
holes are millions or even billions of
times the mass of our Sun so millions of
billions of times more massive than
those stellar-mass black holes and one
of these we know exists in the center of
our galaxy and we know that because some
very smart people looked at some stars
moving around the center of the Milky
Way and they can track the orbits of
these stars over many about 10 years or
more and they found okay these stars are
moving about an object that we can't see
and so you can do Kepler's laws very
easy math and you can see oh there must
be something very massive and also very
very small at that point in the middle
there ends up the only answer that makes
and
since is a black hole that's about a few
million times the mass of our site that
exists in the center of our own galaxy
this is this is pretty crazy to think
about the two behemoths black hole
that's pretty close to us actually
I mean relative extinct but actually all
galaxies are most galaxies have one of
these supermassive black holes at their
Center in fact these black holes can do
a lot of damage to their galaxies so
these black holes whoa
they can actually fling off a lot of
mass into the galaxy so these are images
of two two particularly cool galaxies
that have a black hole at their center
and that little black hole which is big
but is actually the size of our solar
system
so compared to a galaxy is pretty small
but it's causing gigantic outflows of
gas that even sometimes dwarfed the
Galaxy itself you can see in this
picture here this guy innopolis the
galaxy is this small thing in the center
so this black hole is disrupting entire
galaxies all on its own which is really
interesting so there's a lot we want to
know about these black holes how do they
affect their galaxies as one but also
where do they come from and how did they
get so big these are clearly not from
stars exploding so where'd these black
holes come from well as with anything in
astronomy to learn about it we have to
look at it but as I said black holes are
invisible so it's hard to see them but
luckily for us lots of these
supermassive black holes because they
exist in the center of the galaxy have a
lot of guests around them and because
they're so massive they can match
yes gravitationally and I eat it more or
less that gas falls into the black hole
and as that gas falls into the black
hole it actually gets very hot and very
bright and so even though we can't see
the black hole we can see this guess
that's moving around it and being eaten
by the wrong cold and oftentimes these
black holes I get right there's a
computer-generated one from the movie
time we can talk anyway so these he's my
cold actually can not only today do they
fling out all this gas but they can get
so price well the gas around them gets
so bright I think outshine their entire
galaxy so we can actually see these
black holes very far away from us and
then towards the very beginnings of the
universe itself
and we use this using all these
telescopes mostly space-based like
Hubble Chandra and well sometime soon
Jaime we have steam but the problem is
is that when we look at what goes in
this way we're limited because in order
to see the ones that are far away we can
only see the ones that are extremely
bright and often the ones that are
extremely massive but to understand
where they come from and how they got to
be so big we really want to see them at
the very earliest times in the universe
that's really hard because you're only
you're only able to see the some very
rare bright ones and even that there's
lots of stuff in the way so if you fill
all those billions of years back and try
it between you and the black so you're
seeing lots of stuff and getting away
and make it hard to see
okay so recently you might have heard a
gravitation of waste in the news and so
far using Lego which actually exists in
watching one of the like of detectives
is in Washington State they observe the
merger of two stellar-mass black holes
so loneliness what's interesting is if
news today okay a lot of galaxies and
have supermassive black holes in their
centers we also know that galaxies
merged sometimes and this here is
showing a simulation of two galaxies
that you know with the simulators base
of English they made their galaxies from
scratch on the computer and they flung
them together and then saw what happened
and what they saw is that the central
black holes in these galaxies also end
up coming together and forming a binary
black hole and eventually merging
together and with two supermassive black
holes merge just like stellar-mass black
holes they invent gravitational waves
they orbit around each other and create
ripples in space-time that you can
detect with detectors here on earth now
LIGO won't be able to see these black
holes do you think of gravitational
waves like sound why go sensitive to a
certain frequency of sound in space-time
but these black holes are urban higher
pitch frequencies and so you need
something well a bit a bit bigger
actually to detect it so what we
planning I'm doing is watching something
called Lisa the laser interferometer
space antenna and this will be three
satellites orbiting the Sun
orbiting Earth and orbiting the Sun
connected by lasers but event measuring
how space-time is wiggling how these
ripples are passing through these lasers
and it'll be able to detect mergers of
supermassive black holes all the way
back to the very very earliest stages of
the universe when the universe was only
a few million years old
a hundred million what that's really
interesting because this is a whole new
picture that will have a new window into
the supermassive black hole that we have
never seen before
which is really exciting so Lisa is
gonna fly it roughly fifteen years or so
so we got some time but people like need
theorists are going to kind of predict
what what sort of things will Lisa
actually be able to see how often and
where will these black bolt mergers take
place and in reality these the
simulation I'm showing here is kind of a
live galaxies yeah this happens
sometimes it's a very idealized case but
in real life in the real universe this
is how galaxies form small little
galaxies form at early times this is
showing gas in a region of the universe
small galaxies form in early times and
those small galaxies merge together to
form bigger galaxies and those bigger
galaxies merge together to form using
bigger galaxies etc there's a lot more
message there's a lot more mergers
taking place one right after each other
the galaxies are changing with time the
properties are changing over time the
black holes and those galaxies are
changing over time and so the question
is how many of these mergers of galaxies
will result in a black hole merger to
all
and what happens to the black golden
those ones that don't urge so that's
what we set out to ask do this during my
PhD I'm here at here in Seattle
I developed a simulation that I call
Romulus uh what what what the simulation
is it's a big volume of the universe a
big chunk of the universe that we put it
dark matter and gas and all the physics
that we want we're running on a gigantic
supercomputer it took something like I
think 75 million CPU hours to run the
simulation so it ran for several months
on hundreds of thousands of computers
and in the simulation we the simulation
naturally predicts like you saw in that
video all this structure is filaments of
gas and dark matter in the form and the
galaxies is that form of these no points
here so this image here is showing us
gas temperature so these hot regions
here are actually dense galaxies forming
some of the big some of them small here
I'm looking at the Stars and showing you
what the stars those galaxies in play we
have a variety of colors and shapes some
of them are all alone some of them are
in big groups and what we could do in
this simulation is we can watch the
simulation go through time and we can
pick out events like this we can pick
out where two galaxies are merging
together and we can look at what the
black holes are doing during that merger
how are they moving around relative to
one another and how long does it take
them to actually merge together an event
that would create gravitational waves or
maybe they've never merged together into
actually relatively brittle this is all
purely a prediction of our simulation
which is nice because we're not putting
anything too much
and then we can make a prediction for
observations from Lisa and what we find
just like those simulations I showed you
before the idealized simulations of
individual galaxies we find that that
also happens in our simulations we have
a galaxy merchant the points here the
dots members of the black holes and see
it is possible to have a merger of
galaxies that bring together those black
holes relatively quickly those two black
holes merge together to become one as
those galaxies merge and bring them
close together but this actually doesn't
happen all the time
we also have cases like this so in this
case we also have emergent 2pcs but the
black hole ends up taking billions of
years to merge so this final picture
here the black hole's look kind of close
but they're actually going to take
another billion years moving around the
galaxy before they merge together and so
what's the difference between these two
cases is that in this top case here
hopefully I guess those the back right
now so let's see again this both of the
black holes have a galaxy around that
this spot this this secondary Michael
here you can always see a galaxy around
there the galaxies existence is dense
clump of stars and those two galaxies
interact with each other and bring the
black holes together but on the bottom
this what this black hole here is all
lovely
there's no galaxies around them anymore
it's just by itself wandering around the
galaxy and it takes up a long time for
that black hole to find its companions
and murders
so we can understand this a little bit
better with the movie so what's
happening here is that that small galaxy
that brings that other black hole in
ends up being destroyed by the bigger
galaxy that small galaxy gets ripped
apart by the gravitational force of the
bigger galaxy as it interacts leaving
the black hole all on its own and so
this is a more extreme example here so
inside the people in the back also might
have a hard time seeing this there's a
smaller galaxy down here with the white
point of the black hole and small and
red and it's gonna fall into this bigger
galaxy this is right from the simulation
and if you watch this black hole it's
galaxies right around here is being torn
apart this galaxy that used to be this
little puffy bucket around the black
hole is being torn apart by the bigger
galaxies and destroyed and it's not to
leave this black hole all on its own so
have we seen the black hole up here and
the black hole is gonna lose its
galaxies and all by itself this black
hole the supermassive by foolish about a
million times the mass of our Sun is
left way outside the galaxy the places
where it will remain for billions of
years and even trillions of years before
ever the cost of these maintenance of
the center and find its companion and so
this actually happens quite often
because merger
like this are very common in the
universe mergers between big massive
galaxies like the magnet life
simulations those are actually
relatively rare and so the result of
this is that big galaxies massive
galaxies like ours that have gone
through a lot of these versions remember
to grow as big as they are actually we
predict have many of these supermassive
black holes so we already understood
that there's a central black hole
supermassive black hole in both galaxies
like our own but we were predicting here
is that there's actually several other
ones though you can't see we've never
seen them before because they're they
exist so far away from the center of the
galaxy so here's a couple images from
the simulation of two Milky Way light
galaxies and the white points and the
arrows show the black holes at when
their velocities are and so these black
holes are on a very wide orbits randomly
strewn about the galaxy although
actually not quite random because it may
notice where these black holes are they
tend to if you look at these sidon
images of the galaxies they don't
actually exist in the disk so galaxies
like ours have a disk of gas and stars
and these wandering black holes tend to
preferentially exist outside of that
disk and that's because the black holes
that would exist at the disk have had
shorter time scales to fall tennis
engine so the ones that stay behind the
ones that have a very long time to reach
the center are the ones that buy based
purely on luck from the galaxy mergers
exist outside of this galactic plant
so that's the negative thing but it
means it's a problem to see them because
the disk of the galaxy is what all the
gases that's the stuff that the black
hole can eat to become bright but these
wandering black holes is million solar
mass black holes wandering around that
halo in the Milky Way don't have any
gaps around them to eat so they remain
invisible to us and so this is now the
next step and the research is trying to
figure out how might we actually be able
to get observational proof that these
black holes exist and it's hard and I
don't know the answer right now but
that's that's where we're at so the
simulations they have to predict that
these massive galaxies in a series of
these destructive mergers end up having
several behemoths black holes wandering
about very wide orbits that still at
least for right now aren't visible to us
even invisible to gravitational wave
Observatory is like what you like Lisa
so not even gravitational Williams can
help us see these guys for like now yeah
so that's that's the conclusion thanks
for listening and I'll take your
question
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