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The podcast explores profound strategies for upgrading one's mindset, arguing that thoughts, emotions, energy, and body are instruments of function rather than impediments to life. The core argument posits that while a person may consciously desire health or happiness with their 5% conscious mind, the remaining 95% is often governed by subconscious programs formed through repetition—essentially hardwired habits acquired before age thirty-five. These redundant cycles create predictable futures based on past experiences; if one's state of being remains rooted in memories and emotions from the past, they will inevitably recreate those same emotional patterns. To break this cycle, individuals must move beyond waiting for a crisis to change and instead learn to alter their brain waves through practices like meditation or specific behavioral interventions that allow them to enter an operating system where real transformation can occur. The speaker emphasizes that motivation alone is insufficient because it often fails when ego clashes with reality; true implementation requires shifting one's identity from valuing being "good" at something to valuing the willingness to learn, thereby building resilience against inevitable failure and injury to self-esteem. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on reclaiming free will by managing sensory inputs and emotional reactions through a framework called the 3S model: sight, sound, and scent design. The speaker illustrates how most people start their day with poor "sight design" by immediately looking at phones filled with envy-inducing content from social media, which activates the "monkey mind"—a state of scattered attention seeking instant gratification rather than focusing on strengths or purposeful goals. By intentionally curating what one sees first thing in the morning, such as a spiritual text or an inspiring image, and by utilizing scent design like diffusers with eucalyptus or lavender to induce relaxation before work, individuals can bypass reactive emotional states. This approach is supported by neurological evidence that long-term memories are formed through highly emotional experiences; therefore, shortening one's "refractory period" for negative emotions prevents them from hardwiring into personality traits like bitterness or fear. When the body repeatedly recalls traumatic events to rehearse survival instincts, it creates a chemical state of anxiety and stress hormones that condition the brain to anticipate the worst-case scenario, effectively trapping individuals in a loop where they suffer life rather than living it. The transcript also addresses the nature of human potential and desire cultivation, challenging the notion that humans have fixed limits or ceilings on their capabilities. The speaker argues that unlike other creatures bound by natural lines for survival, humans possess no top line to their evolution; hitting a ceiling only results in frustration because one has removed those limiting instincts through conscious action. Desire is presented not as an innate feeling but as something teachable and cultivatable from a mere spark of interest into a raging inferno or passion. This process requires distinguishing between what people are forced to do versus where they have natural inclination, noting that trying to build desire for the former is like starting a fire with wet moss. Furthermore, the discussion highlights how society often pushes individuals toward their weaknesses rather than leveraging their strengths, citing an anecdote about school rankings where parents focused on low scores (the D) while ignoring high performance in areas like art or philosophy. To find one's true path and passion, one must identify activities that generate confidence and ask trusted others what they excel at doing, effectively stripping away external expectations to align with the "truest self." Finally, the conversation concludes by reframing pain and suffering as distinct concepts: physical pain is a preservation mechanism, but mental suffering arises from multiplying that pain through imagination and memory. The speaker introduces the concept of thinking like a monk not as asceticism involving giving up sex or mandatory meditation, but as living in alignment where thoughts, words, and actions reflect one's truest self rather than parental conditioning or media influence. This involves emotionally recalibrating to insults by lowering defenses instead of raising them; when attacked with something that hits hard, it reveals a secure area the attacker targets, offering an opportunity to learn a lesson if accepted as truth. The ultimate goal is to embrace polarities—balancing strategy and sincerity, giving and growing—and to serve others without losing oneself in self-delusion or ego-driven narratives. By deciding on a mission rather than discovering one inevitably, individuals can build a legacy that matters not for public recognition but because it aligns with their internal values, allowing them to navigate life's uncertainties with the fortitude of someone who knows they are exactly where they need to be and capable of evolving beyond any perceived limitation.
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Life can often feel like someone's
literally drowning you, especially if
you're in [music] an extreme case of
anxiety or stress or depression. And I
feel like you just need to feel like
[music] you can just come up for a tiny
bit of it.
My thought, my emotion, my energy, and
my body are my instruments of function.
They are not impediments in my life.
[music] A
person can say with their 5% of their
conscious mind, I want to be healthy. I
want to be happy.
[music]
I want to be free. But the body is on a
whole different program. So then how do
you begin to make those changes?
Whatever position you're in right now,
you can change. No matter what [music]
it is, no matter how horrific, no matter
what you've been through, no matter what
you've done, like there is a way out
from under it.
If you are in a dark place and you hear
change is real, change is possible,
doesn't that lift your mood? Don't you
want that to be true? And once you allow
it because you have to allow it. Once
you allow that to lift your mood and
you're like, I feel better just by
thinking I can change. That was huge for
me. That was like moment one was when I
realized I actually can change. So this
thing that feels like a death threat,
this like smothering cloud of just like
despair, it can clear away. And it
immediately, and it's not like, oh, it
went from gray skies to blue skies. It
wasn't that immediate, but it was it
literally immediately a lighter load
just because I realized I can change. So
I was like, whoa, I can change. None of
this is a death sentence. That's so like
just amazing. That was enough to get me
going. And people are always looking for
how do I have the energy? I'm depressed.
I'm down on myself. How do I get the
energy to push through? Man, you've got
to find a way to find energy in that.
You can change. So, whatever position
you're in right now, you can change. No
matter what it is, no matter how
horrific, no matter what you've been
through, no matter what you've done,
like there is a way out from under it.
But part of it is allowing that sense of
lightness to be there. So, I allowed it.
And so, it began to lift off my
shoulders, which then encouraged me to
take more action, to read more, to get
better. I started my obsession with
gaining skills that reading isn't about
checking a box. It's about actually
getting better at something that lets
you do something. And I need a better
way to explain this. This is one of
those things like if people really
understood what I'm talking about right
now, this one fact would change their
life forever. You don't get skills
because it looks good on a resume.
You get skills because it lets you do
the thing you want to do.
If you're playing soft music or you have
earplugs in, less sensory information
coming to your brain, so you're
disconnecting from your environment. If
you can sit your body down and tell it
to stay like an animal, stay right here.
I'm going to feed you when we're done.
You can get up and check your emails.
You can do all your texts, but right
now, you're going to sit there and obey
me. So then when you do that properly
and the you're not eating anything or
smelling anything or tasting anything,
you're not up experiencing and feeling
anything. You would have to agree with
me that you're being defined by a
thought, right? So when the body wants
to go back to its emotional past
and you become aware that your attention
is on that emotion and where you place
your attention is where you place your
energy, you're siphoning your energy out
of the present moment into the past. And
you become aware of that and [snorts]
you settle your body back down in the
present moment cuz it's saying, "Well,
it's 8:00. You normally get upset
because you're in traffic around this
time and here you are sitting and we're
used to feeling anger and you're off
schedule. Oh, it's 11:00 and you usually
check your emails and judge everybody.
Well, the body's looking for that that
predictable chemical state. [snorts]
Every time you become aware that you're
doing that and your body is craving
those emotions and you settle it back
down into the present moment, you're
telling the body it's no longer the
mind, that you're the mind. And now your
will is getting greater than the
program. And if you keep doing this over
and over again, over and over again,
over and over again, just like training
a stallion or a dog, it's just going to
say, "I'm going to sit." And the moment
that happens, when the body is no longer
the mind, when it finally surrenders,
there's a liberation of energy, we go
from particle to wave, from matter to
energy, and we free ourselves from the
chains of those emotions that keep us in
the in the familiar past. And we've seen
this thousands of times. In fact, we can
actually predict it now.
Well, a habit is a redundant set of
automatic unconscious thoughts,
behaviors, and emotions that's acquired
through repetition. A habit is when
you've done done something so many times
that your body now knows how to do it
better than your mind. So, if you think
about it, people wake up in the morning,
uh they begin to think about their
problems. Those problems are circuits of
memories in the brain. Each one of those
memories are connected to people and
things at certain times and places. And
if the brain is a record of the past,
the moment they start their day, they're
already thinking in the past. Each one
of those memories has an emotion.
Emotions are the end product of past
experiences. So the moment they recall
those memories of their problems, they
all of a sudden feel unhappy. They feel
sad. They feel pain. Now how you think
and how you feel creates your state of
being. So the person's entire state of
being when they start their day is in
the past. So what does that mean? The
familiar past will sooner or later be
predictable future. So if you believe
that your thoughts have something to do
with your destiny and you can't think
greater than how you feel or feelings
have become the means of thinking by
very definition of emotions you're
thinking in the past and for the most
part you're going to keep creating the
same life. So then people grab their
cell phone they check their WhatsApp
they check their texts they check their
emails they check Facebook they take a
picture of their feed they post it on
Facebook they tweet something. They do
Instagram. Uh they check the news and
now they feel really connected to
everything that's known in their life.
And then they go through a series of
routine behaviors. They get out of bed
on the same side. They go to the toilet.
They get a cup of coffee. They take a
shower. They get dressed. They drive to
work the same way. They do the same
things. They see the same people that
push the same emotional buttons. And
that becomes the routine. And it becomes
like a program. So now they've lost
their free will to a program. and
there's no unseen hand doing it to them.
So when it comes time to change, the
redundancy of that cycle becomes a
subconscious program. So now 95% of who
we are by the time we're 35 years old is
a memorized set of behaviors, emotional
reactions, unconscious habits, hardwired
attitudes, beliefs, and perceptions that
function like a computer program. So
then person can say with their 5% of
their conscious mind, I want to be
healthy. I want to be happy. I want to
be free. But the body is on a whole
different program. So then how do you
begin to make those changes? Well, you
have to get beyond the analytical mind.
Because what separates the conscious
mind from the subconscious mind is the
analytical mind. And that's where
meditation comes in because you can
teach people through practice how to
change their brain waves, slow them
down. And when they do that properly,
they do enter the operating system where
they can begin to make some really
important changes. So um most people
then wait for crisis or trauma or
disease or diagnosis. You know they wait
for loss uh some tragedy to make up
their mind to change. And my message is
why wait? And and you can learn and
change in a state of pain and suffering
or you can learn and change in a state
of joy and inspiration. I think right
now the cool thing is that people are
waking up. Everything in life comes down
to what your own value system is. So
what's your identity? What are your
beliefs? What are your values? What are
your habits? What are your routines?
When you figure those out that like if
you just gave me a sheet that told me
what those were about somebody, I would
tell you what the outcome of their life
is going to be. And for me,
implementation, being willing to face
the fears, the anxieties, the unknown,
um the need to stare at my inadequacies
so I can figure out what skills I
actually need in order to go and do
something because implementation is
really a question of skill set. So it
that's why motivation ultimately is
going to let you down. It's like you may
be motivated to go do something, but let
me walk you through exactly what will
happen. You're motivated to try this
thing which you don't know how to do and
you suck at it. And so you go do that
thing, you suck. It hurts your ego
because your ego is tied up in being
right, being good, being talented,
worthy, all those like permanent um set
states that people don't realize are
malleable. And so they get stuck in
that. It damages their self-esteem. So
they want to run in the opposite
direction. Psychological immune system
kicks in, reminds them that that was
stupid anyway. Why were they worried
about even trying that? And so they back
off. And any one time doing that, it's
not a big deal. It's just that people do
that over and over and over and over and
over. And my thing is that's such a
predictable pattern in humanity. It's
like, what do you have to do to
counteract that? And the thing you have
to do is emotionally reward yourself for
being willing to take the steps. So,
okay, I know I'm going to do this. I'm
going to suck at it. It's going to hurt.
It's going to hurt my self-esteem. And
so, what do I need to do to make sure
that I don't trip up over that in a way
that makes me turn and run in the
opposite direction? Number one, stop
valuing myself for being good at
something and start valuing myself for
being willing to learn. So that's just a
a core part of my value system is I'm a
learner. That's my identity. Being
willing to put in the energy to learn
and get better as a part of my um not
only my belief system that people can do
it, but part of my values that that is
important to do as a human. You should
do that. So when I see something that I
want to accomplish, then I know that I'm
going to have the fortitude and the
stamina to see that through because it
taps into my identity of the learner and
my value system of this is important and
should be done. So then I just keep
going down. So I hit the the wall of my
inadequacy and I don't meet that with
stopping. I meet that with cool, now I
know what I have to get better at. I'm
now aware of what the skill set is. And
so now that I know what skill set I need
to develop and I believe that it can be
developed, then I just put the work into
developing the skill. Now the one thing
that I think gets lost in all of that is
people lose desire and they think that
that means that oh it wasn't as
important as I thought it was or I
didn't want it as much as I thought I
did. The reality is that even desire is
something that you have to learn to
cultivate to turn into um a raging
inferno. Like your wants have to become
needs. And I think there's some weird
push back that people think that like if
it's real, if it's love, then there's no
energy that's put into building that up.
And I think that's BS.
So you think that that desire is a
teachable
concept?
Desire is definitely a teachable
concept. The real question is building
that desire. Will that actually work?
And so I think people have something in
their mind of something they were forced
to do that they didn't enjoy and there
was no natural inclination towards that
and I'll say yeah you're probably never
going to be able to build something
there. So that's like trying to start a
fire with wet moss. It
probably is not going to happen. But if
you have something where it really is a
spark of real interest. It's not a love.
It's not a passion but it's a spark of
real interest. Now, that's something
that you can work with and really turn
into something by building it because
there is a process that goes along with
building that desire. There is a process
that takes something from interest to
full-blown passion. And if people are
willing to go along that process, then
you really can evolve that initial just
sort of, oh, it's a spark of interest to
the very thing that I'm willing to give
my life over to completely.
[music]
Well, an apple tree is not trying to be
an oak tree.
But an apple tree wants to be a
full-fledged apple tree.
That effort is on in every life.
So is it in human beings.
But the problem with humanity is just
this that for every other creature
nature has drawn two lines.
Within these two lines, they live and
die.
So their idea of full-fledged is hitting
the ceiling of their life.
But if a human being hits a ceiling, he
gets frustrated and miserable [laughter]
because nature this process of evolution
has delivered to us to a place where
there is only the bottom line. There is
no top line. Though some human beings
are trying to breach the bottom line and
go below [laughter]
that effort also is going on.
So essentially what human life is is
when life was in the other forms of life
that you'll see on the planet.
Nature determined a certain compulsive
instinctive ways of functioning once you
become human. These lines have been
removed. You can act consciously. That
means what you call as human potential
is not of any kind of measurable limit.
It can go as far as you desire or as as
far as you have the courage to walk.
So when we say human potential,
unleashing human potential,
it is not about reaching the peak.
It is a trajectory
because what our life is is a
combination of a certain amount of time
and energy. Time is rolling away for all
of us at the same pace. If you sit, it
rolls away. If you sleep, it rolls away.
If you do something, it goes away. If
you don't do anything, it goes away.
You're happy or miserable, it goes away.
Time is running out for all of us. So,
it's only the energy that you can do
different things with. If you bring your
energies to a certain level of intensity
and possibility,
what somebody does in 10 years, you may
do it in one year. This means if you
live here for 100 years, it feels like
in people's impact that you have
created, it feels like you lived here
for a thousand years simply because you
have managed your life energies in a
certain way. So for me a human being
impactful means how conscious have you
become. This is very important because
if you're in compulsive cycles then your
energy gets wasted in so many things. If
you observe people
in a day let's say let's take 24 hours
in that anyway most people by
prescription in America they sleep for
eight hours [laughter]
so 8 hours means one/ird of life is gone
in the remaining 2/3 they have to eat
they have to you know shower bathroom
this that all this another 2 three hours
gone so literally 50% of life is gone
daily basis just for basic maintenance
maintance of this life.
50% of the time is gone in maintenance.
Remaining 50% what they have. If you
look at every single move that they may
make with their body, their thought
process, their emotions, you will see a
whole lot of it is happening in
compulsive cycles.
Or in other words, if you are little
sensitive to life, you will realize you
are the biggest issue in your life.
So this is one thing that I'm trying to
do with people that you are never the
issue in your life. I'm not the issue.
My thought, my emotion, my body is never
the issue. My thought, my emotion, my
energy and my body are my instruments of
function. They are not impediments in my
life. But I would say for 90% of the
human beings their own body then the
compulsions of the body the compulsions
of their thought the compulsions of
their emotions are ruling them most of
the time. So when you yourself are a
problem
well you're on self-help. There are some
people who think that their talent and
intelligence are fixed traits. That's a
fixed mindset. Then there are other
people who believe that their talent and
intelligence are malleable traits that
can be developed and they are developed
through challenge and those are people
with the growth mindset. So people that
believe they can grow into basically
whatever they want to become. Do humans
have limits? Yeah, almost certainly. But
there is such a gap between where you
are and the upper bounds of human
limitation that to even worry about
limitation just doesn't make sense. We
put people on the moon. So like once you
accept that we could figure that out,
it's like
you're not aiming at anything crazier
than that. So, it's going to fall within
the limits of what humans can do. So,
going after that and developing that
mindset and being aware of what Carol
Dwet calls the false growth mindset,
which you alluded to earlier, where
people think they're thinking in the
right way. They think they're
implementing something, but they're
really not.
[music]
We all get to decide what our values
are, what our belief system is, what our
rules in life are, the code of ethics
that we live by. Those are all decisions
that people mistake for empirical truth.
But if you want to know how just
unempirically true it is, look across
all societies. They don't share it. So
we just decide that stuff. It's usually
handed to us by our parents, which is
what makes us confuse it with just being
true. But the reality is that we're all
constructing this belief system, value
system, honor code, all of it. And it's
going to determine what we do and how we
do it. Now, if you choose to breathe
life into from a value and belief
standpoint, putting in that work to get
those skills, then suddenly that energy
of like, whoa, this is going to let me
do something that lets me serve all of
the sudden like, wow, that's uplifting
in and of itself. So, you feel good as
you're doing it. Now, as you're feeling
better about it, you're going to want to
do it more. And so, that became that
self-reinforcing loop of I want to do
this more, but to do it more, I have to
become aware of my blind spots. And
that's where self-awareness comes in.
But just like any other skill, like you
have to cultivate it. You have to get
better at it. You have to seek
disisconfirming evidence. You have to
come to realize where you have been
blind. Now, often those moments where we
realize that we've been blind, they are
emotionally devastating. I love
inspiration and motivation, but it is
the neurological equivalent of candy.
It's rad. It has its place, but you
everyone because those just happen to be
fleeting neurological states. Yeah. You
You just have to find something that's
way more grounded. You need a mission.
You need a grand why. You need to know
what it is. And and this is not a
discovery. It's a thing you decide. I
decided now because I tell it as a
story. People think, "Oh, it was un
unavoidable. He meets this kid Rashan
and that coupled with all the people
that he worked with at Quest. It's sort
of inevitable that he decides that he's
going to um build Impact Theory and try
to change culture to give everyone an
empowering mindset." Yeah.
Literally a year before I decided to
found Impact Theory, my mission in life
was to end metabolic disease. So, it's
like you decide and then you point
yourself at something. Nothing is ever
going to feel right. Like, this is what
I was put on earth to do. It won't feel
that way until about a year or two years
after you've been saying that's what
you're going to do, that that's what
you're committed to and actually acting
in accordance with it. And then you'll
be like, "Yeah, this actually is my
mission."
You have to learn how to emotionally
re-calibrate. So when I was the kid in
the server room and there was a whole
bunch of people farther ahead in their
entrepreneurial journey than I and they
all heard the same message about you can
be a partner and none of them did
anything with it. I started asking why
aren't they doing anything with it and I
realized the answer was I could self
soothe faster than they could. And so
yeah it hurt when I was told I was an
idiot. That really sucked especially
hearing it from someone you really
respect. But I decided to not spin out
of control, not waste three days being
hurt by it, but instead to recenter and
just ask, are they right? Because if
they're right, there's something to
learn here. And if they're not right,
just move on. And if they are right,
learn the lesson. And so I just slowly
started collecting it and the lessons.
And the image I started thinking was
whenever somebody throws an insult at
you, you have two options. You can let
it hit you in the head or you can raise
your defenses and deflect it. And your
defenses are the psychological immune
system. They're real. I'm not making
that up. So, all of us have this thing
that comes to our aid when somebody says
something that hurts you. Then you're
like, "Oh, well, they're mean anyway.
They're a jerk. They're a bully.
Whatever. I don't have to take them
seriously." And so, that makes you feel
better and you believe maybe that
they're being cosmically punished in
some way. Being a bully is its own
punishment and all that. So, and like
that allows you to relax. And they've
done studies that show people with the
highest level of self-d delusion are the
happiest. So, there really is something
to it. But the people with the highest
level of self-d delusion are usually not
the ones that go the farthest because
they don't stop to recognize where they
really are to own the pain of that. So I
thought, okay, instead of raising my
defenses, I'm going to lower my
defenses. I'm going to let that rock hit
me in the head because at my feet now is
actually a nugget of gold. And I'm going
to pick up that nugget of gold and form
the lesson that the person is throwing
at me. And here's the thing to realize.
When people really come at you, they're
really trying to hurt you. They have
sinister intent. They're gonna come at
you with something that's true. Nobody
comes at you with the stuff that's not
real. They're gonna hit you with like
the thing that you're the most secure
about in the world.
So, even the people with the the gravest
of intent are the ones that are giving
you the most powerful gift because you
may be blind to it or maybe you didn't
want to acknowledge it. But if you can
let it hit you as much as it hurts, then
bend down, pick it up, and learn from
it, now you can do something. Where I
found the um the deepest hooks into how
powerful this can be for somebody is
when you talk about trauma. You've
talked about how people experience a
traumatic event, but they then basically
rehearse it and how that then has this
knock-on effect. So, what is that? Why
do people find it so hard to get past
trauma?
Well, the the stronger the emotional
reaction you have to some experience in
your life. The higher the emotional
quotient, the more you pay attention to
the cause. And the moment the brain puts
all of its attention on the cause, it
takes a snapshot. And that's called a
memory. So long-term memories are
created from very highly um uh emotional
experiences. So what happens then is
that people think neurologically within
the circuitry of that experience and
they feel chemically within the
boundaries of those emotions. And so
when you have an emotional reaction to
someone or something, most people think
that they can't control their emotional
reaction. Well, it turns out if you
allow that emotional reaction, it's
called a refractory period to last for
hours or days, that's called the mood.
You say to someone, "Hey, what's up?"
You say, "I'm in a mood." "Well, why are
you in a mood?" "Well, I had this thing
happen to me 5 days ago, and I'm having
one long emotional reaction." If you
keep that same emotional reaction going
on for weeks or months, that's called
temperament. Why is he so bitter? I
don't know. Let's ask him. Why is he so
bitter? Why are you bitter? Well, I had
this thing happen to me 9 months ago.
And if you keep that same emotional
reaction going on for years on end,
that's called a personality trait. And
so learning how to shorten your
refractory period of emotional reactions
is really where the the work starts. So
then people when they have an event what
they do is they keep recalling the event
because the the emotions of stress
hormones the survival emotions are
saying pay attention to what happened
because you want to be prepared if it
happens again. Turns out most people
spend 70% of their life living in
survival and living in stress. So
they're they're always anticipating
the worstc case scenario based on a past
experience and they're literally out of
the infinite potentials in the quantum
field. They're selecting the worst
possible outcome and they're beginning
to emotionally embrace it with fear and
they're conditioning their body into a
state of fear. Do that enough times body
has a panic attack without you. You you
can't even predict it because it's
programmed subconsciously. So then you
say to the person why are you this way
and they'll say I am this way because of
this event that happened to me 15 or 20
years ago and what that means from
biological standpoint is that they
haven't been able to change since that
event. So then the emotions from the
experience tend to give the body and the
brain a rush of energy. So people become
addicted to the rush of those emotions
and they use the problems and conditions
in their life to reaffirm their
limitation so at least they can feel
something. So now when it comes time to
change, you say to the person, why are
you this way? Well, every time they
recall the event, they're producing the
same chemistry in their brain and body
as if the event is occurring, firing and
wiring the same circuits and sending the
same emotional signature to the body.
Well, what's the revalence behind that?
Well, your body is the unconscious mind.
It doesn't know the difference between
the experience that's creating the
emotion and the emotion that you're
creating by thought alone. So, the
body's believing. It's living in the
same past experience 24 hours a day, 7
days a week, 365 days a year. And so
then when those emotions influence
certain thoughts and they do and then
those thoughts create the same emotions
and those same emotions influence the
same thoughts now the entire person's
state of being is in the past. So then
the hardest part about change is not
making the same choice as you did the
day before. Period. And the moment you
decide to make a different choice get
ready because it's going to feel
uncomfortable. It's going to feel
unfamiliar. It's there's going to be
some uncertainty.
Why does it feel so uncomfortable? Is it
because of the the the neurons that fire
together wire together so I've there's
like an easiness to that loop just
because literally and you've talked very
eloquently about this. The way that the
neurons connect in the brain, how
rapidly I've seen you show footage of
how rapidly those connections happen,
which is pretty incredible. Um is is
that what makes it so discomforting for
people? I think that I think that the
bigger thing is that we we keep firing
and wiring those circuits. They become
more hardwired. So there you have a
thought and then the program runs. But
it's the emotion that follows the
thought. If you have a if you have a
fearful thought, you're going to feel
anxiety. The moment you feel anxiety,
your brain's checking in with your body
and saying, "Yeah, you're pretty
anxious." So then you start thinking
more corresponding thoughts equal to how
you feel. Well, the redundancy of that
cycle conditions the body to become the
mind. So now when it comes time to
change, person steps into that river of
change and they make a different choice
and all of a sudden they don't they they
they don't feel the same way. So the
body says, well, you've been doing this
for 35 years. Uh all you're you're going
to just stop feel suffering and stop
feeling guilty and stop feeling shameful
and you're not going to complain or
blame or make excuses or feel sorry for
yourself. Well, the body's in the
unknown. So, the body says, "I want to
return back to familiar territory." So,
the body starts influencing the mind and
it says, "Start tomorrow. You're too
much like your mother. You'll never
change. This isn't going to work for
you. This doesn't feel right." Uh and so
if you respond to that thought as if
it's true, that same thought will lead
to the same choice which will lead to
the same behavior which will create the
same experience which will produce the
same emotion. [music]
So pain is a good thing physically
because that is your
preservation self-preservation
mechanism.
But suffering is something that you do
in your mind. So pain that happens in
your body, you take it in your mind and
multiply it a thousand times or a
million times depending on how capable
you are or how stupid you are and suffer
it a million times over. Right now most
human beings are like this. What
happened 10 years ago, they can still
suffer.
What may happen day after tomorrow, they
already suffer.
They are not suffering life. They think
they're suffering life. They're not
suffering life. They are suffering the
two most fantastic faculties that human
beings alone have. A vivid sense of
memory and a fantastic sense of
imagination. I want to know how close to
encapsulating the notion of thinking
like a monk. Can you get like how like
if you were to give somebody just a
nutshell notion of what that means? What
would you say?
Say it means to live a life in
alignment. And what that means is that
you live a life where what you think,
what you say, and what you do are
aligned with your truest self. And what
I mean by your truest self is the self
that was not given to you by your
parents or by your education or by media
or movies or not the self that you've
created to function in the world. So I
think if you strip away all of those
expectations, obligations, and opinions,
what you're left with, if you live in
alignment with that, then you're
thinking like a monk. The monkey mind is
what we all experience every day. So the
monkey mind is jumping from branch to
branch. It doesn't want to focus on the
root of the issue. It wants to find the
next banana. It wants to find the next
excuse. It wants to find the next
instant gratification. Right? That's the
monkey mind. And so the monkey mind is
never going to help you focus on your
strengths. And the reason, going back to
one of the earlier questions you asked,
the reason why we struggle to find our
passion is because the world has
constantly pushed us away from our
strengths.
We've constantly been told to focus on
your weaknesses. Oh, you've got three
A's and a D. You should be working on
that D. Let's get that up to an A.
Right? I remember in my school they had
this excruciating exercise where you'd
be ranked 1 to 180 on every subject
every year
and they'd send the list home to your
parents.
So there were 180 students in my year
group and every subject art, math,
English, science, geography, history,
you name it, you were ranked one to 180
in every subject based on your test
results and scores. And that was like
painful when my parents received that.
And the crazy thing was I would always
outperform always in art, design,
philosophy, and economics. I was and
English I was always in the top half if
not in the top quarter if not in the top
five, right, of my whole year group. And
stuff like science and geography and and
math, I was kind of like in the middle
and and towards the bottom end of my
year. Now granted, I went to a
competitive school, so I was still okay
at those things.
But the interesting thing was that my
parents and my friends parents would
never look at what you came one or two
or three in. They'd be looking at the
things you came 90, 100, and 110 in. And
so we've all been programmed to say,
"Oh, your strengths are they're fine.
They're they're good the way they are,
but why are you not performing at this?"
And so the one way to know your
strengths is to ask yourself, what do
you do that you feel the most confidence
doing? And it could be something as
simple as I'm great at organizing
birthday parties. It could [laughter] be
like that may be your skill, right? That
may be your strength. Or it may be
something like I'm really good at
putting on makeup. Or it could be that I
have a great sense of fashion. It could
be any of those things. And if you don't
know it yet, you can also do an exercise
where you sit down with a colleague, a
family member, and a friend because you
need people from all areas of your life,
and you ask them, "What do you think I
do that I excel in that I stand out in?"
Or if you could trust me to do one thing
in your life for you, what would that
one thing be? If we know that people are
struggling with the monkey mind, they um
they're telling they're filling their
cup up with a lot of things that are
self-destructive, maybe too big of a
word, but it's directionally correct
that things that aren't leading them to
joy, to peace. Um
how do we bring the ashroom to them? How
do we go about, you know, beginning the
process of healing? I know, um a big
part of your journey was questions,
questions, questions, questions,
questions. What are the right questions?
Um, do we have to meditate? Is that
optional? Do we have to give up sex?
Like where where do we fall? When you
got to that part in the book, I had to
laugh out loud. So, what how do we bring
the ashroom to people? How do we help
them like now start doing things
specifically to empty their cup to
refill it with something that's going to
lead to to peace and to joy and all?
Yeah. The first thing I'd say is I think
everyone needs
the feeling that they can just come up
for some air. Life can often feel like
someone's literally drowning you and you
feel like you're drowning and
floundering, especially if you're in an
extreme case of anxiety or stress or
depression. And I feel like you just
need to feel like you can just come up
for a tiny bit of air. So for that, in
the book I talk about the 3S model,
which is your sights, sense, and sounds.
what we see, what we hear, and what we
smell has a profound impact on our
mental state. And we actually
underestimates our sense. And I'll give
you an example. All of us have been
walking around with masks. And someone
said this to me the other day and it hit
me. They were saying to me that now that
we all wear masks and do this the whole
time. I think my mask over there. They
were doing this all the time, they
realized they couldn't hear people
properly.
And the reason they couldn't hear people
properly is they realized they don't use
their ears. They use their eyes to see
people's lips and so actually they're
not even using their ears that much.
They're using their eyes to follow the
lips and know what someone's saying.
So actually we depend so much on our
eyes in every interaction.
How many times have you been looking at
someone attractive and you forgot what
they were talking about? Right? You're
just so engaged with your eyes that you
completely even forgot to listen. Right?
or you're so lost in in the vision of
something again and you're in a days you
can't smell anything, you can't taste
anything. So, we've got to learn to
reactivate our senses. So, I'll give you
an example of what I mean. As monks, our
life was sight designed, sound designed,
and scent designed. What's the first
thing you see when you wake up in the
morning? For 80% of people, the first
thing they see in the morning is their
phone. And the last thing they see at
night is their phone. That is poor site
design because you don't even choose
what the first message of the day your
mind receives.
That actually made my stomach drop.
That's a gnarly thought.
It's true.
Yeah,
right. Imagine the last thing someone
sees is not their partner or their
spouse or the person they sleep with.
They see their phone and the first thing
in the morning they look at is their
phone. And guess what? It's not a good
site because you're looking at a message
that you didn't design for your mind.
You're looking at a picture or an image
that maybe came through on your
Instagram feed that you didn't choose
for your mind. So now you've started
your day with envy, jealousy,
comparison, competition, collap, like
all of the all of the monkey mind stuff.
And the monkey mind's excited. The
monkey mind's on. The monkey mind's
like, "Yeah, we're ready to go." And now
you started the day with the monkey
mind. So my advice is start your day
with a quote that you love. Start your
day with a picture of someone that you
love or your family. Start your day with
a work of art that inspires you.
Start your day with seeing the first
thing that you see. Make it so closely
connected to your soul and your goal and
your purpose that your monk mind
naturally comes alive. So as monks, the
first thing that we saw was sometimes a
teaching that we'd keep next to us. It
might be a spiritual text where I just
ripped it out of a book and stuck it
there next to my bed. So I woke up to
that. Just wake up to something that you
actually want to see when you wake up
and make it intentional and make it
focused. It could even be a reminder on
a sticky note. I remember for a long
time I had one when I was a monk that
said, "I am not this body." Just to
disconnect from the fact that I was more
than this body. And because we didn't
have mirrors in the ashram, it was very
easy to forget I was this body. Or I've
had other ones where that say to me, I'm
exactly where I need to be. and I've
read that in the morning and that just
reminds me because so often I wake up
feeling anxious that I'm behind on my
day or I'm late and then I actually make
up a mess. Whereas if I read I'm exactly
where I need to be and I remind myself I
can start my day there. So that's site
the and that's simple easy for anyone to
do. You don't have to change your mind.
You don't need to meditate. You don't
have to do anything. The second one is
let's talk about scent design. Now, one
of the things I've been missing during
quarantine is going to a spa or going to
like a resort because I love massages
and I love spas and like me and my wife
love getting away. And if you think
about it, whenever you go into a spa or
a massage space or whatever they're
called or a resort,
you can always feel relaxed from the
moment you walk in just through the
power of scent. It could be the most
basic room in the world, but a scent can
literally illuminate a whole room. So
scents like eucalyptus, lavender,
sandalwood, if you've got a diffuser or
a candle, and you can make this a part
of your routine, before you start your
workday, just have a candle that you
breathe in for 4 seconds and breathe out
for 4 seconds.
live through the moment where I know
what I would do when I have money and I
have to give it up to do something and I
choose to go do something that makes me
feel alive. I've had the moment where
I've had all the money in the world and
I know what I do. Do I retire? And the
answer is no, I don't. I keep going as
if I had urgency for what though. You
could say, "Oh, to have the impact to
leave the legacy." But I don't think
legacy at all in the slightest. If you
told me, Tom, you could spend the next
40 years building the saying, but no one
will ever know who you are. I'd be like,
fine. Does it does the impact actually
happen and carry on? Yes, perfect. It is
that experiment of thinking like, whoa,
we can actually make the world better
and that people will go on to do amazing
things. The only thing that matters to
me is what I think about it. It doesn't
matter what other people think about me.
That's irrelevant. I can't control it.
It's going to change throughout my life.
It just too many people have said, "If
you stay in the game long enough, you
will see yourself become the villain."
So, I know like right now people will
come up to me crying and thanking me for
their help. I'm one sentence away from
saying something that really upsets
people and then people come and are
like, "Fuck you. I hope you burn." So,
it's like I get it. I know how that
plays out. So, I don't care about that.
It's beautiful when it's positive and
I've helped somebody, but I'm only
worried about what I think about myself.
So, I know about myself. The thing that
I'm moving towards is really thinking
that I'm making impact. And while it's
possible that on a long enough timeline
I will stop being neurochemically
rewarded for that and not care anymore
and thus I might slow down and not want
to do anything. But nothing in my 42
years of experience lead me to believe
that that is true about me. So I am
there's nothing there's no shortage of
things I'm so excited about that the
thing that scares me I have two fears.
my wife dying because we have this
beautiful shared experience and I don't
want I don't want to try to recreate
that and it can only be recreated in
real time. So it would take me 18 years
to get back what I have with her. And
then the other thing is brain damage
because if I can't process data the way
that I process data now, I worry it
won't be as fun. So like the struggle of
everything, the trying that's I value
myself for that and that's what I really
love. And then just innately and I don't
know that I did anything to earn this. I
love change. So where other people are
freaked out by change, dude, I welcome
change aggressively. The bigger the
shakeup, the better. And so what I tell
people is because you're more likely to
believe something negative. Don't even
worry about what's true. Worry about
what empowers you when it comes to just
yourself. I'm not talking about, you
know,
fake news or, you know, a post-truth
world. I'm just saying for yourself
[clears throat] there. Both of those
narratives are based on facts. So the
truth of one or the other doesn't
matter. One is empowering and one is
disempowering. Act in accordance with
the one that's empowering.
If you look at that as a philosophy of
life which is let's just accumulate,
let's just hoard and let's just
celebrate on my own. We know people and
stories about people who will not be
satisfied that way to just have. You're
one of them. You and Lisa, and I can and
I can say this honestly, and I said this
to Lisa the other day, are two of the
most generous, loving people and humble
people that I know, despite all your
success and incredible achievement. And
that's what enders people to you. It's
not what you have that enders or that
may endear some people to you, but what
keeps the right people around is that
you both have these human qualities
because you want to serve, you want to
help, you want to support and
collaborate. And so for me, I feel like
we either live and then we live the
opposite. The other opposite life is,
oh, life is just about giving. It's just
about service. It's just about helping.
That's not sustainable either. And so to
me, I've discovered through real monk
wisdom that life is actually embracing
polarities.
It's actually about doing a dance and
knowing which way to go at the right
time. So I believe as much in strategy
as I do in sincerity
and I believe in much as generosity as I
do in generating value for myself and I
believe as much in giving as I do in
growing and I think as soon as you start
to say no it's either or you have to
choose I think that's where we start to
lose a part of ourselves and that's why
I add that compassion to passion because
I know a lot of people who do what they
are passionate about but actually lack
meaning and purpose in their life
because they haven't turned it into a
service.
Look at yourself in 10 15 20 years time
and ask yourself the question is that
where I want to be and if the answer is
no then you need to find a new path to
just get to understand yourself. You
don't know what you need in your life
until you figure out who you are.