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The lecture focuses on the definition and primary objectives of church planting, emphasizing that this mission is not based on personal desire but is a direct commission from Jesus Christ found in Matthew 28:18-20. The speaker explains that the Great Commission involves three key actions: going to unreached areas, baptizing new believers, and teaching them to obey God's commands. Drawing examples from the Book of Acts, particularly after Pentecost, the video illustrates how the early church in Jerusalem established self-sustaining communities where disciples were nurtured through mutual care, shared resources, and spiritual growth. These initial groups did not wait for perfect conditions or modern research methods but immediately began spreading the gospel to Samaria, Judea, and eventually Antioch, demonstrating that a true church plant is defined by its ability to sustain itself as a growing community of disciples rather than just being a physical building or an event.
A central theme throughout the discussion is the necessity for churches to be self-sustaining in three critical areas: leadership development, financial stability, and spiritual presence. The speaker argues that leaders must not remain dependent on others indefinitely but should actively raise up new leaders by identifying gifts within the congregation and assigning specific roles such as ushering, sound management, or prayer teams. Financially, the lecture advises against quitting one's job immediately to start a ministry without first counting the costs and saving resources; instead, believers are encouraged to work diligently while praying for God's timing, citing Apostle Paul as an example who worked as a tent maker even during his imprisonment in Rome. The video stresses that leadership is demonstrated through influence and presence rather than just speech or titles, and that financial independence allows a church leader to maintain their vision without begging others for support, which can undermine the authority of the ministry.
The ultimate objective of planting churches is described as hosting God's presence in specific locations, which naturally leads to miracles, healing, and conversions because people experience something tangible they cannot ignore. The speaker warns against focusing solely on signs and wonders while neglecting discipleship, noting that without teaching and mutual growth, a community will not mature into true followers of Christ. Furthermore, the lecture addresses common misconceptions about full-time versus part-time ministry, clarifying that God calls all believers to work in their respective vocations as an act of worship and obedience, referencing figures like Nehemiah, Daniel, and Joseph who excelled in their professional duties while serving God. The conclusion reinforces that church planting is a long-term process requiring patience, prayerful planning, and the visioning of future growth, urging participants not to rush but to prepare thoroughly so they can step forward confidently when God opens the door for them at the right time and place.
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All right, welcome back. So, any
questions? Chapter two, the Holy Spirit,
our leader.
So, remember to always depend on the
Holy Spirit before you start anything.
Right? Okay. Let's move to chapter
three. Chapter three is we're going to
look at uh the definition and objective
of church planting. Now, what is church
planting? one aspect and two is
why do you want to start a church what
is the objective right when you say
objective mean what is the reason is it
because I have nothing to do or the
reason that I want to do it okay firstly
let's look at the definition Matthew 28
18 and 20 Jesus gives this beautiful
commission he's resurrected he's met
with the disciples he stayed with the
disciples for a long time and now he's
going back to his father in heaven and
he gives this instruction what we call
as the great commission. Let's read
that. Matthew 28
18 and 20 18- 20.
>> Then Jesus came to them and said all
authority in heaven and on earth has
been given to me. Therefore, go and make
disciples of all nations, baptizing them
in the name of Father and the Son of
Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey
everything have I have commanded you and
I surely I am with you always to the to
the very and end of the age.
>> Right? Now, let's look at three words
from this passage. Right? First, he
says, "Go."
Then he says baptize.
Then he says teach.
And under teach you can say make
disciples. So go baptize and teach. The
Lord Jesus has commissioned us to go and
spread the gospel. He said go baptize
teach.
All to be done in the name of the
father, son and the holy spirit. Now
what does it teach us? It teaches us
that if we have to plant a church, plant
a ministry, it is not because I want to
do it. It's because Jesus has
commissioned us to do it. Jesus is
saying, I am telling you to go do it.
That's the reason we're doing it. Then
he follows it up by saying, I am with
you always, even to the end of the very
age. Right? So
we see that the book of acts unfolds as
the early disciples followed through the
great commission in the establishing of
communities of believers. So think of
this. These 120 uh sorry uh Jesus has
commissioned them. He says go and wait.
120 are waiting. Now they don't have no
understanding of what is church. But one
thing they know is hey Jesus died. He
rose again. He is the Messiah. But he
said go baptize make disciples. But
before that he said wait. So we are
waiting here. The moment they were
endored with the Holy Spirit act in the
Pentecost happened what happened the
fulfilling of this started off we see
that churches establishment of community
of believers was started how Peter
firstly he came he preached 3,000 people
came into the church a community of
believers started
immediately almost immediately now again
it is very new to them see we we must
not think our situation now right
because we know go to a place do
research everything and then church
start a church Sunday church all that
was not there in them they didn't
understand all they knew is God Jesus
told go baptize make disciples and
that's all they did
that 3,000 people immediately they were
trained people were trained they started
sending out people the persecution
happened people went to Samaria Judea
different parts of the of the world,
different parts of Jerusalem and outside
of Jerusalem, different towns, different
cities where they went proclaiming the
gospel of Jesus Christ. It was in these
self- sustaining community of believers
that disciples were nurtured, equipped
to continue to make more disciples. Now,
look at what happened. Acts
chapter was Acts chapter 2 was the
empowering of the Holy Spirit. uh and
3,000 people were added into the church,
right? And if you go Acts chapter 2
towards the end, we see that the the
fellowship of the believers happen. Acts
chapter 3 is
uh Peter heals the uh lame man uh the
beggar. Chapter 4, Peter and John are in
the Sanhedrin. Now look at what happens
after that. The gospel goes into
Samaria,
goes into different parts surrounding.
What happens? The church in Jerusalem,
first thing they did raised up leaders.
Okay, we are 3,000 people. So now they
heard that other churches, people are
going from here and they are preaching
the gospel. People are becoming
believers. But there's no church.
So we need to help them start church. So
the Jerusalem as the main church sent
people
go start churches. So that's where uh
Samaria, Judea, all the neighboring
cities and towns people were uh you know
people were the ministry was gospel was
going out churches were being
established. Right? A church plant
therefore is the establishing of a self
sustaining community of believers who
are growing together as disciples of
Jesus Christ.
These 3,000 people, what did they do?
They grew together
in discipling one another. The Bible
says that, you know, they shared their
possessions.
They were there for each other. They
looked after each other. There was many
healings and deliverance. And then the
the church in Jerusalem sent out
apostles and teachers to go and bless
the other churches as well. What did
they do? They were growing together as
disciples of Jesus Christ. They were
hosting God's presence. Wherever they
went, there was an impact made because
they were hosting the presence of God.
Remember Peter, John chapter 4, Acts 4,
Peter and John go to pray. They met this
lame man. What did they do? Peter and
John said, "Hey, now this is a different
Peter and John. This is not the Peter
and John that was there when Jesus was
there." Peter and John said, "Silver and
gold I don't have. What I have, I'll
give to you. In the name of Jesus
Christ, rise up and walk." What were
they doing? That lame man stood up,
walked. They were hosting the presence
of God. The presence itself brought
healing,
right? All that they did was they said
in the name of Jesus Christ rise up and
walk. The presence of God fell in that
place and they were healed. Later on we
see Peter is walking his presence
and the shadow of Peter is healing
people. What is that? First they were
growing together in disciplehip. That
means they didn't ignore the teaching,
preaching, ministry of the word,
discipling one another. But they also
hosted the presence of God where there
were signs, wonders and miracles.
Now just a question that we can ask
ourselves. What if looking at these
signs, wonders and miracles, they got so
excited and said, "Okay, you know, let's
just focus on signs, wonders, and
miracles because people are getting
healed." And they neglected discipling
and ministering to one another. What do
you think would have happened?
they wouldn't have even grown as
disciples. All they're doing is sitting
and looking at miracles.
Miracles is not going to help always.
They need to be discipled into being
like Jesus Christ. Right? Miracles is
good. But they knew the teaching of the
word was also important. That is why
later on we see what Peter did was he
came up with a good solution. He said,
"Listen, we will do the teaching, the
preaching,
all the outreaches you'll do. We will do
the teaching, preaching, and the
ministry. All the administration work,
all that you do. Don't involve us.
You tell us what to do, we'll do. But
teaching, preaching, discipling, we will
do."
So they they what they did was they
compartmentalized it very well. There
was good administration. So Peter said,
"We will do the teaching, the preaching.
We'll commit ourselves to this prayer,
teaching, preaching, discipling one
another." All the solving problems don't
come to me.
Go to somebody else. Right? I'm just
telling you, right? How they were able
to be more effective. Raise up leaders,
send them. And what happened? They were
influencing cities, towns, villages,
wherever they went, they were hosting
the presence of God. And when they went
there, people experienced the presence
of God. People were experienced the
power of God. They were healed. People
were ministered to. And uh so others
also came to know Jesus through this uh
uh through what they were doing. So we
see that in the church in Jerusalem, the
church in Antioch. Sorry I missed out
Antioch because what happened was
because of the persecution many of the
believers went to Antioch.
And when they went to Antioch, this
church became a powerful church.
What happened? Already apostles,
prophets started over there in Antioch.
And that's why
Peter did an amazing thing. He said,
"Bnabas, do one thing. We'll handle
everything here in Jerusalem. This is
the main church." See, the church in
Antioch needs help. They are a growing
church. There are apostles, prophets,
they need some disciplehip. They need
some nurturing. They're very new. There
are a lot of gifts and uh that is there
in that church, but they need help. So,
you go there. So Barnabas goes to
Antioch and he's ministering there and
he realized, hey, I can't be alone. I
need some help. Who does he go searching
for?
I think I've said this million times to
y'all from first year onwards. I've been
saying this.
Who does Barnabas go searching for?
>> Right?
You should know all this
at the back of your head over next year
you'll be preaching.
So you should know this what's
happening. The church in Jerusalem is
3,000 people. So that's what I say,
right? When as as students always
picture it, okay, 3,000 people, big
church, Jerusalem, persecution happens.
Many people go away. They go into
different parts. Judea, Samaria,
Antioch. But the church in Antioch was
something special because uh that church
started growing right and and it's about
like you know apostles prophets are all
rising up there but they need help. So
from here they're sending like how we
send APC missions same thing they go
Barnabas go. So Barnabas goes he he
realizes wow this is a beautiful church
I need some help and he remembers oh
some 14 years back Paul I had met him he
had come to Jerusalem and we you know we
let him go in that basket and after that
we don't know where he is so Saul Saul
of Tarsus let me go to Tarsus he goes
finds him brings him to Antioch and they
both are serving there for almost a year
and after that one Here he comes to
Jerusalem.
So you see what's happening here. What
was the key? The nurturing, the
training, the building up of other
churches as well. We see, right? So what
do you mean by self- sustaining? Number
one, self- sustaining and leadership.
They were good leaders.
We know Peter and John were leaders in
the church. But if you look at Acts 15,
James is now the leader of this church.
So we can say there are probably around
8,000 9,000. You can keep almost 10,000
people in the church in Jerusalem,
right? I'm just giving a rough estimate,
right? Okay. You can also say because
ministry was rampant at that time.
People were becoming believers very
quickly. Right? So for example, there
are 10,000 people in the church in
Jerusalem. So you got Peter, you got
John, the heads of the church, but I'm
sure there would have been hundreds and
hundreds of leaders inside that church,
right? There would there would have
definitely been prayer groups, smaller
groups meeting in different places,
house groups, right? All of that would
have been there because that's what we
see right in scriptures. Small groups,
house groups meeting in different places
and then you know coming together having
um the Lord's meal, building, nurturing
each other. All of that was happening
but all part of the church in Jerusalem,
right? Building each nurturing each
other, discipling one another. These
leaders leaders were raised up. I'm sure
there were many leaders. Barnabas was
one of them, right? when they chose
Barnabas go and help the church there
and that's how everything unfolded and
eventually we see that the leadership
became strong and by the time you go to
acts chapter 15
uh in the council of Jerusalem we see
that Silas is there, Barnabas is there,
Paul is there but James is there
interestingly James is Jesus's half
brother.
The same brother who didn't believe in
Jesus,
who said you are out of your mind, who
said you know to Jesus if you're a
messiah why you're coming here go to the
feast of the tabernacles spoke rudely to
Jesus that person is now leading the
church in Jerusalem. What happened? He
saw
this person Jesus was somebody else.
He was really the Messiah because we saw
him crucified. We saw him being put in a
tomb and now we saw him alive.
James also became a believer and now
he's leading the church and of course we
we later on we see a lot of leaders
being raised up. So
very important.
How can we apply it in our ministries?
Now you may be starting a church right
when you start everything is on you. You
do the administr. You are only sound and
setup. You are only PPT. You are doing
everything. You are opening the church.
You're closing the church also. You're
cleaning the church. You're setting up.
Now, don't make it one so story. Oh
Lord, what do I do? You know, no, it's
the initial phase. It's okay. No
problem. You have to do it.
I remember doing it right in Mangalore.
go open the church, lead the worship.
Somehow I should try to find somebody to
do the PPD. Otherwise, no PPT also,
right? For the lyrics, I used to had
that remote control. I used to change
the lyrics and play guitar.
What to do? Nobody's there.
Then clean the whole church, close it,
come home.
Now, it's the initial days. It's okay.
But always remember that you have to
become s self- sustaining. So slowly
start raising up leaders,
right?
U and you know how we do it here, right?
We we set up teams. You say, okay, we
need leaders for these places, right? So
this comes we will look at this will
come more in the natural dynamics,
right? Uh on how to build teams. But let
me give you an example. For example, you
know 15 people in the church. Okay. If
you need three teams, one team is
ushering. So ushering will do open the
church, clean the church, keep the
table, lodge table ready and welcome
people to come in. Two, you need a sound
team who can you know set up the sound
equipment and look after the sound.
Three, maybe one uh two people for
prayer team, right? Prayer or it for now
enough, right? You don't need too many
people. So you say, "Okay, these three
teams, we need people." Slowly as your
church grows you will see people right
okay and you can recognize hey he can
serve or she can serve right and you
slowly get people to start serving of
course you get them into leadership when
we say leadership don't always look at
it as okay who's going to come next and
preach in the pullpit no can also raise
people to be leaders in teams right so
then slowly maybe somebody in the church
says you know you know this person can
pray. She he or she's a prayer warrior.
Say, "Hey, you know what? Why don't you
start a prayer team, right? You like to
pray. It's not a burden for you. So, you
come if you want to come to church
evening 5:00, right? I'm I'm picturing
myself in in a place where you guys are,
right? Come do every witness day 5 to 7.
You do. I'll come and sit. But you lead
the prayer. What are you doing? You're
making something sustainable. you're
there
but this person is coming leading the
prayer and it's an anointing upon him or
her right and people will come maybe two
three people or so it's okay but it
makes a difference you're encouraging
this person to step into leadership
through the gifts and the anointing that
God has given them
right so don't always look at okay who's
going to be next yeah that that time
will come but you get people into
leadership slowly
Now you may say pastor only 10 people in
my church in the 10 people at least
three people should you should have in
mind to become leaders
yes or no right otherwise if you're
happy with your 10 people 10 will remain
10 only we don't want that we want to
grow and so we want people to grow into
leadership two self- sustaining
financially
when you say financially what initially
as a church you may not be sustaining
financially right you're you're small
you may not get too many offerings if if
I look at it in from your aspect from
your understanding if you're a from a
village or a town the offerings may be
very small so what can you do uh
initially you may need to take time and
start the church we look at all of that
in uh dynamics of church planting But
you may need to take time. Okay, I will
pray. I will work for 2 years,
right? And then I will start the church
so that I have enough funds just to
manage for myself for at least one year.
Don't be in a hurry. Oh, God tell me
start told me start a church, next week
you stop working and then next month you
start the church. No, no, no, no. Don't
do that.
What does Jesus Jesus himself says? If
you're going to build a tower, first sit
down.
Doesn't he say that? He says, "First sit
down.
Write down what it's going to cost you.
Do you have the money? Do you have the
resources? Do you have the people? Write
down and see whether you can do it.
But don't put your hand to the plow and
in between take it out." No. First try
it down. Count the cost. see what it
takes. Do you have what it takes? Then
take it forward. Otherwise, don't do it
yet. Don't put your hand to the plow and
then in between say, "Oh, I I don't I
don't know what to do now." No.
So, if you are, you know, looking
financially, you're saying, "God, I
don't know what to do." Get a job. Work.
Nothing wrong. Work for two years. Work
for three years. Two years. How can I
work for two years? Who will do the
ministry? You only will do the ministry.
Don't worry. Don't be in a hurry to
start something and then you know the
whole thing has stopped. No. Plan well
ahead. Okay. Financially let me plan.
Lord, Holy Spirit, you're with me. Give
me the wisdom. How do I plan? Okay.
You're you're going to do. We'll talk
about all this later. But just sharing a
few things. You're looking at where I
want to start. Uh which place I want to
start a church. Okay. What is it that I
need to do here? Basic needs.
Now there is no point of you saying oh
the Lord wants me to start a ministry.
You leave your job, sit at home and keep
praying the whole day.
Will anything happen?
What will happen if you quit your job
and keep praying the whole day?
You tell me what will happen.
>> Time will go then. What? What? Time will
go anyways if you pray or don't pray.
But what will happen?
God has told you plant a church. You
know that God has said you will become a
pastor. So you quit your job and you're
sitting at home and praying. Whole day
you're reading the Bible and praying
which is very good. Yes or no? Reading
Bible very good. Prayer very good. But
what will happen?
Anything will happen. Why?
You're not doing anything.
You're doing something good. But what is
the first principle?
Labor. Work.
God's principle is you work, I will
bless it. You don't work, I have nothing
to bless.
So what would you do? You would a good
way to do it is work.
Don't share your vision with everyone.
Whoever's going on the road, don't stop
them. You know what? One day I will
start. Don't say all those things. You
met one friend, you know him for 2
weeks. Don't share your whole life story
to him.
Keep your vision to yourself.
There are only one or two people you
should share it with. If you share it
with everyone, it will become a
laughingstock. This fellow wants to
start a church. He doesn't know the
spelling of church.
What you'll do? Oh yeah. I know what is
spelling of church.
Gone.
Don't do that. What I'm what I'm saying
is you have the vision. Let it be
burning inside you. But take your time.
I wanted to join Bible college
immediately. I I became a believer. But
I knew I'm not going to ask my parents
to pay the fees. I'm an adult
and I don't want to go free Bible
college all those stuff. I said okay I
will work.
I will save money. Already I was in a
job right? I'll work. I'll save money. I
work for two years,
right? I made sure that I have enough
funds to to pay for whatever I have to
pay.
You understand? But was the two years
easy? It was very difficult.
Sometimes I felt what is this is you
know not saving enough. It's not coming.
You know, you feel all those anxiety and
no don't worry take your time. And I
believe I don't know if I joined earlier
maybe something else I don't know but
God knows at the right time at the right
place how to open the door of
opportunity for you maybe if I joined
earlier I may have finished and gone
back to the workplace
maybe there was no need here I'm just
saying or maybe if I joined later
already there was enough staff faculty
we don't need
God knows
You plan prayerfully. Ask the Holy
Spirit to lead you and then you step in.
Don't plan without preparing.
So prepare yourself. In the meanwhile,
you plan.
You get it? Something that we're doing
now in AP uh at East is see we're we're
about 200 almost reaching 200. So we we
planning okay once we reach 250 or 300
people we need a bigger space now we
want to reach that number we are working
hard towards it we are doing as much as
we can to you know reach out but we're
also planning ahead
on what to do right so being financially
stable it'll take time eventually one
day as your church grows you'll be able
to financially uh sustain yourself,
right? But in the beginning phases,
try to have certain funds with you,
right? Cuz you don't depend on others.
The moment you depend on others, no,
that feeling of, you know, uh leadership
goes away. Don't depend on others.
Leadership is influence. People will
come.
If you keep asking people, begging
people and saying, you know, I need this
money, I need that money, you know,
leadership is influence. People
themselves will come and give you if
because they'll see the vision inside
you. Leadership is presence before the
speech.
Before you speak a word, people will
know you're a leader.
That's what leadership is. You don't
have to speak. Sometimes the greatest
leaders sometimes don't even speak a
word. they just sit
right. So
first one leadership to financially
right be plan ahead to be financially
stable especially now with our nation
going through all of these problems and
the FC and all of those things you need
to be extra careful and plan very wisely
right get help do research read about it
don't say I am building God's kingdom I
don't care about this government the
government will put you in prison okay
Then don't say God what do I do? God
will say you don't know you don't know
how to read you should read no you
should prepare yourself no
right you you understand what I'm saying
right
three community
it may take time for the community of
believers to become self- sustaining but
that is the eventual go go goal that we
should work towards remember
church planting
and ministry is always about envisioning
How many of you when you joined Bible
college saw that you will graduate? Did
you see it in your mind's eye?
No. You only saw the lunchtime
and next time.
Did you see it in your mind's eye? Hey,
one day I'll be standing there and
taking my certificate.
Once you envision that, no matter what
problems happen here in Bible college,
it won't it won't shake you. Yeah, you
may have days ups and downs, okay? But
you've envisioned it in your mind. One
day I'm going to walk up that stage,
take my three-ear certificate, degree
certificate. Nobody can stop me.
Problems will come, yes, storms will
come, yes, but you've envisioned it.
That's the power of envisioning here as
community of believers. Initially, it
may not happen. But as your church
grows, you become sustaining. Always
envision for your church. What do you
want to see? Envision for yourself.
Envision for your church.
If you don't envision, you're just going
through life just the way it is,
right?
So envision.
What are some of the objectives here?
Some of the key objectives in planting
local churches can be identified as
establishing and hosting God's presence.
number one objective. Why are we
planting churches? We see it in the book
of Acts.
If you go to Acts, we see that when they
were in Jerusalem, 3,000 people were
added into the church. God's presence
was there. Were there miracles? Plenty
of them. Then from there, what happened?
They went into u
Samaria. They went into uh Antioch,
neighboring places. Wherever they went
the they were hosted the presence of God
and out of which you we see that Stephen
was there right Stephen did so so many
wonderful things the Green Jews who were
going through problems that time Stephen
came up from then Philillip acts chapter
8 Philillip goes and he talks to the
Ethiopian unic and the Ethiopian unic
becomes you know accepts Jesus takes the
gospel into Africa right and then we see
the great apostle Paul the church in
anti Acts chapter 11. Apostle Paul's
ministry you know um
first missionary journey he goes to
Galatia which is about five places in
Galatia. Uh Cyprus, Pacidian, Antioch,
Iconium, Lististra, Derby. He goes in
there wherever he went he planted
churches.
So it was hosting the presence of God in
all these places. So when Paul's writing
to Galatians there are few churches in
that list. Then what does he do? He goes
to the second missionary journey. He
goes into some of one of the most
powerful
missionary journey, most effective anti.
He goes to Philippi, Corinth,
uh Thessalonica,
Ephesus, all the powerful power centers
of those times. What does he do? He goes
in and he establishes God's presence.
Right? Thessalonica, Beria, Athenans,
Corinth,
everywhere he went, the fact that we are
talking about it now
is because he went and he hosted the
presence of God there.
So now when you go and plant a church,
remember, you're not just a physical
building there. No, you're hosting the
presence of God in that place.
the presence of God. When you have
worship, you have the word, you're
hosting the presence of God.
Why do you think the enemy is fighting
for stopping churches
or with all these, you know, the
anti-conversion bill or whatever that's
happening where we're seeing persecution
to churches. Why is it why is the enemy
using people to uh destroy churches?
because he knows churches establish and
host the presence of God.
Anyone can come into a church and if he
experiences the presence of God,
sometimes you don't even need preaching.
They experience the presence of God,
they become believers. The enemy is
afraid of that.
So he doesn't want that.
So you can be in a small village, you're
hosting the presence of God.
Two, you're discipling new believers.
people become new believers, you
disciple them,
you teach them, enable them, empower
them. And uh that's a very very again a
very important aspect of church planting
when the apostle Paul and you see in the
early church in Jerusalem, church in
Jerusalem also when they were growing,
they discipled new believers, right?
They wanted to see believers being
raised up. Paul chose Timothy, Titus,
all these young people to serve in his
team. And what happened? They were
influencing their region. And finally,
they were multiplying by planting many
more churches, right? And we see that in
a ripple effect in the book of Acts.
Plenty of churches were started. Not
everything is mentioned in the book of
Acts. Right? So, for example, in uh I
think it's Acts uh 60. Is it not Acts
16, Acts 17 when he goes to Athens uh
towards the end we see that verse 34
Acts 17:34 a few men became followers of
Paul and believed among them was Dionis
a member of Aeropagus also a woman named
Dearis and a number of others so a
church was planted in Athens but we
don't have a letter to the Athenans
right so what am I trying to say
wherever Paul went he was able to plant
churches and there was a multiplication
right it's not like only you know
Ephesus Corinth Galatia this is the only
churches and maybe been many other
places that he had started churches
uh but you see the aspect of multiplying
and that's what we are also doing here
at APC we want to multiply we started
with one then we started no uh north
south east west and Mangalore for and
then again all over India we're planting
churches and that's the bigger vision to
be an apostolic church but remember all
these things take time right it takes
time but you need to envision it you
need to see it in your mind's eye all
right any questions
no questions
>> can you say that on the mic so that
those online can hear.
>> So many of them them say that uh God
called called us for full-time ministry.
So we we we doesn't need to work
anywhere. Then how can we in initial
stage how can we manage the financial
>> so here's the thing see I've said this
before and I say it always there's no
such thing as full-time and part-time
ministry.
You're in ministry. You may be working 9
to5 in the corporate
office. You're in ministry.
You may be working in as a pastor.
You're in ministry. You may be working
as a electrician. You're in ministry.
You may be working as a pilot. You're in
ministry. Whatever you're doing is your
ministry. Now, this whole concept of God
told you not to work is totally wrong.
It goes against God's principles.
God himself is saying work.
He told Adam till the garden you work.
That's a principle of God.
Look at people that God have used. Look
at Nehemiah. He was working.
He was a working professional. He was a
cupbearer. God didn't choose people who
are sitting under the tree enjoying
themselves. No.
Look at Daniel. What was he doing?
Administrator work. Do you think Daniel
was just relaxing half the time? Oh, was
looking after the administration.
So, it was not like every time God is
he's thinking of God. No, he was
working.
But three times a day he spent he
remembered God in his work. Right. Do
you think the you know Cyrus and these
other kings were say oh Daniel or you're
a good prayer warrior so you only be the
leader. Was that the reason? No. The
Bible says they could not find any fault
in his work.
Right? Look at Joseph
when he became second in command. He
worked. He didn't say okay now I'm
second in command. I'll sit. No he
worked. So work is a principle from God.
I think the best example would be
Apostle Paul. If you go to the end, go
to Acts chapter 28
verse 30. Read 30.
Now Paul in this, let me give you
context. Paul goes to Rome. He's come
from Jerusalem to Rome and he's waiting
for his trial.
meaning he's finished a few trials with
Felix, agria, all of that. Now he's
waiting for the decision to be made. See
what happens. Verse 30.
>> For two whole years, Paul stayed here.
Paul stayed there in his own rented
house and welcomed all who come to see
him. He proclaimed the kingdom of God
and taught about the Lord of Lord Jesus
Christ with all boldness and without
hindrance. Now Paul is in Jerusalem. For
two whole years he stayed in his own
rented house.
Who paid his rent? You think he would
have begged people for money?
The Bible says we know that Paul was a
tent maker. Same profession as Aquilla
and Priscilla
was a tent maker. He if Paul is saying
if you don't work don't eat.
Paul himself worked.
I'm sure he worked. He saved money. He
took a ticket by ship and he went. Of
course, people gave to him, but he also
worked.
So those who say working is wrong,
don't listen to them. That's wrong. It's
biblically
it's not right. It's against the word of
God.
God all through the Old Testament, New
Testament shows us that God is a God who
wants us to work. Yes, there will be
times like I said, right? Uh people get
into full-time ministry immediately and
all of that. If that's the case, that's
different. But if God's calling you to
work, work, nothing wrong in it. Work,
save up money, right?
work, save up money and maybe there'll
come a time that you can launch right
your own ministry. So that time you
don't have to ask anyone anything you
plan and you do it yourself right. So
this is all you know full-time part-time
ministry it's all man-made.
There's no word there's nothing in God's
word that says that. What was Stephen
doing?
serving food. They were working. What
was Peter doing? Do you think Peter was
simply sitting?
He was fishing. He would have done
fishing. He would have done you know
what he normally did. He would have done
that. Only thing now he would have got
busy. Oh 10,000 what 8 to 10,000 people
in the church. So slowly that would have
taken second place because you know this
work is here. Church work is there
right? So God knows how to also
transition you into these phases right
he may tell you work and do ministry do
it then slowly he may say okay church is
growing leave it leave the work I will
and he you'll know it you'll know that
it's God calling you you'll have peace
in your heart right but never say work
is you know they use that word now what
do they use know I've heard many people
they
uh there's some word that they use
carnal or something uh
uh anyways nothing is there's nothing
wrong in working
we have to work actually it's the
opposite if we don't work that's wrong
work save up money plan prepare step
into what God has for you right very
important is don't be in a hurry.
Let God take his time.
Be very discerning and we'll learn about
how to do all of that, right? How to uh
step into uh church planting. We learn a
lot is there to learn about that.
So, we'll stop here. Next week, we'll
begin with chapter 4 on what it means to
have a heart for people ministry. You
must have a heart for people. You must
have a heart for cities. So, how do we
do how do we get that heart? Right? So,
we'll pick that up from next class,
right? Okay. Have a great week ahead.
I'll see you next week. Thank you.