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Tyler Perry's 2008 drama *The Family That Preys* is celebrated by reviewers as one of his finest works, standing out among his top three films due to its stellar cast and serious emotional depth. Unlike his typical comedies, this movie tackles heavy themes such as Alzheimer's disease, suicide, and family dysfunction with a realistic touch that resonates deeply with audiences. The film features an impressive ensemble including Kathy Bates, Alfre Woodard, Taraji P. Henson, and Robin Givens, who bring their characters to life through compelling performances that drive the narrative forward without relying on predictable tropes.
At the heart of the story is a poignant cross-racial friendship between wealthy Charlotte, played by Bates, and working-class Alice, portrayed by Woodard, whose bond transcends class differences to focus on their shared experiences as mothers. Charlotte's tragic arc depicts her gradual decline due to memory loss leading to a heartbreaking suicide, while Alice struggles with raising a difficult daughter before eventually finding peace. The film also explores the toxic dynamics within Andrea and Chris's marriage, where Chris squanders his potential and disrespects his wife, resulting in shocking domestic violence that serves as a necessary element of the plot rather than mere sensationalism.
Beyond the main storyline, the movie offers satisfying side stories that enrich its world, such as the ruthless business tactics of Rip Wheeler, a character noted for playing the role of a "white devil" convincingly despite his brutal treatment of his own mother. Another subplot follows Mr. Pick, a broker who loses his job and wife but finds redemption through community support and a relationship with Alice's character, illustrating realistic themes of charity and mutual aid similar to real-world initiatives. These supporting narratives, along with humorous touches from characters managing office politics, demonstrate the film's ability to balance darkness with moments of levity and human connection.
The review concludes by highlighting the ethical complexities revealed in the Cartright household, particularly regarding hidden wealth and financial secrecy within marriage, which mirrors the messy realities of real-life relationships and parenting. With a reported budget of approximately $15 million, the film utilized strong production value and diverse casting to create a high-quality experience that reviewers hope Perry will return to in future projects. Ultimately, *The Family That Preys* is praised for its well-developed character arcs and its ability to address difficult subjects with integrity, leaving viewers with a reflection on how money does not protect those who mistreat others while emphasizing the importance of empathy and community.
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Hello everybody. What is good? We are
back. Me and my home Slice Kim with
What's Good Kimberly. We're talking The
Family That Praise. Directed and written
by Mr. Tyler Perry. Kimberly, this is
actually my favorite Tyler Perry film
out of all of them. It is up there. If
it's not my favorite, it's top three.
Where you at on The Family The Praise by
Tyler.
>> Um I mean, he's got an Oscar award
winner in it. I mean, Kathy Bates
elevating this film um so much. I loved
this film because I was like when I saw
the cast, I'm like, "Oh yeah, let's
elevate." You know, this uh what year
did this movie come out?
>> 2008.
>> Oh my gosh, I was so young. [laughter]
Um and yeah, back then I was like, you
know, as his trajectory was going up up
up and we were like, "Okay, great. He's
got wonderful new black actors we
haven't seen. He's bringing in a lot of
legends. But when he brought in Paul
Hower and the legendary, I mean, uh, uh,
Fried Green Tomatoes, Misery, Kathy
Bates, I was like, "Okay, we're going
there." Um, and this is one of my
favorites. This is actually one of the
films that I feel like should have been
the model going forward for all Tyler
Perry films, but I This was definitely
one of my favorites. Yes, Tyler Perry, I
love this film. Why can't we get movies
like this in 2025,
but no, you give us stuff like Straw and
and Acrimony and A Fall from Grace. It's
no excuse, man. No, no, I like it, Tyler
Perry. You know, it's a flip of a coin
with you. If this is your first time
joining us over here, I'm Brandon.
That's Kimberly. We we we like Tyler
Perry. Well, half of them we like, half
of them we don't like. It's literally a
flip of a coin. Straw recently came out
earlier this year. We didn't really care
for it, but we did like Six Triple 8. We
thought that was fire. So, we was like,
"Hey, you know, let's go through and
watch all of the Tyler Perry films that
we do like, that we do love, and that's
what we've been doing." This is number
six. We've already done Why Did I Get
Married One and Two, Diary of a Mad
Black Woman, Dad's Little Girls, and
Good Deeds. And also in anticipation for
a new film by Tyler Perry coming out on
Amazon Prime November the 5th. It is
called Tyler Perry's Finding Joy. And so
we was like, "Hey, new Tyler Perry movie
coming out. Let's just talk about all
the ones we did like. This is the best
production across the board in my
opinion. The cast is stellar." We
already talked about that. Sale and of
course Kathy Bates, you know, Tyler
Perry did great in this except for his
afro wig.
>> I was just gonna say I was just gonna
say
>> Yeah. Yeah. We can come back to it.
Alfrey Woodard is in this. She stole the
show. Rockman Dunar, Robin Given, uh
Taraji P. Henson, you know, is in this
thing doing her thing. Kim, one of the
things I really did like about this film
is um all of the lessons that you can
learn, you know, this was not a this was
not a comedy, which Tyler Perry is known
for, and also drama too, but this was
like a straightup drama, and it got me
emotionally too from characters that I
necessarily cannot relate to. That is
both coming from Alice played by Alf
Alfrey Woodard and Kathy Bates Charlotte
you know like I was I was crying at one
point in this movie I was moved you know
like when my non-spoilery review of this
you know I said to myself I was thinking
about my mom you know like what would
life be like for me and I'm blessed
thank God that I'm still able to call
her and talk to her and hug her because
everybody doesn't have that opportunity
right now so thank you God you know but
I wanted to hug my mom after watching
this, you know, when a movie can do that
to me, we're talking spoilers. Kathy
based character Charlotte, she has uh
early Alzheimer's and uh she ended up
committing suicide, you know, uh because
she just didn't have anything left. Uh
you know, she really wasn't really
thrilled with her relationship that she
had with her child, William, uh growing
up being a brat. But uh I think that she
at the end she thought I I did the best
that I could, you know, and these the
cards that I'm I'm dealt with. I'm ready
to to meet my maker, you know. She got
baptized and I I
>> And I I believed her at one point she
was in church talking about, you know,
do you believe that God can forgive us
uh for all our sins? And you know, Tyler
pray, he's strong with the church. You
know what I'm saying? I ain't I ain't
mad at that. You know, I'm over here
just like Oh, God. I know I'm talking a
lot. You know, if you if I if I got to
shut up, you want to jump in, let me
know. You know, but uh and a matter of
fact, I love how strong Alice's faith
was. You know, it was a little bit of
comedy when in the strip club, Father,
Father, Spirit, the Holy Ghost.
>> That was so He's like, "You want to pour
some oil on me?" She's like, "Yes, I
do." Matter of fact, the Holy Spirit was
that I love that.
>> I love that. I love that. But going back
to Kathy Bates, she was like, "Yes, that
Jesus died on the cross for our sins so
we didn't have to," you know, and uh it
while it was sad, man. And you know, it
the memory full on the on the camera.
Memory fool, you know, I can't just
change my memory card, you know, it it
was kind of corny, but I was at the same
time emotional. Yes.
>> Yes. I'm passing to you. I I loved it.
That's that's what got me. I'm just
like, damn. you know, Gina, uh, Tyler,
you know, um, I I loved it. Uh, how did
you feel about all that? I know I said
my bad,
>> man. I just Charlotte, I I loved her and
I love the friendship that she had. Um,
it reminded me of some movies I saw like
in the 90s of like was it the war? Uh,
where like a a little black girl and a
little white girl become friends and
they don't let what the world thinks of
either of them stop them from their
friendship. and and they don't let I
think sometimes there's this mentality
of like, oh, I can't be friends with
that person. They'll never understand me
because they're rich and I'm not.
They'll never understand me because
they're white and their path has been
different and I'm black. And I think
that's a place we kind of are struggling
to get out of in this day and time of
being so into our own identity that we
are stopping ourselves. And at the end
of the day, they were just two women,
mothers.
>> And they're like, "We relate because
we're mothers. We relate because of why
we're friends." And yes, you have a a
lot more zeros in your bank account than
me. But I love their friendship because
there are so many friendships like that
in the world. We're like, yes, we're
different, but at the core of our heart,
a mother's heart, a woman's heart, girl,
we have so much to talk about. We have
so much to laugh about. And that's
something I really love because in a lot
of Tyler Perry films, he does use class
warfare, if you will, to kind of be the
antagonist, be a character in itself of
many of his films of like, well, this
family's rich and this family's poor,
and that's the basis of the story. And
it's like, no, I love this story because
it's like there's so much more to relate
to. There's so much more to connect to.
And when they got in that car and went
on their little road trip, they were two
women who have raised children and have
gone through whatever they went through
with their husbands that were just
looking for adventure. And that is
enough to have a strong friendship. And
that is enough to relate to one another.
And I love that he didn't focus on
>> this whole like, well, you're white,
you're black, and we'll never be
friends. No. No. And and just the
childlike nature they brought out in
each other. Brandon, I loved I love
because when they're dealing with their
daughters, they can't embrace their
childlike nature. When they're dealing
with their backstabbing sons and making
deals, they got to as a woman or or
women and men, right? People have to
wear so many hats. And what I liked is
when they were in the car with each
other, they were wearing the exact hats
that they wanted to wear. They were
wearing their fun hats, their adventure
hats. Let their let's go get in some
trouble, girl. Let's not think about the
business deals and the the daughters
that are ungrateful, and the sons, let's
just let's act like little girls, you
know? And I just thought that was so
special. And I thought it was so sad
that Charlotte um
>> uh um
>> took her life,
>> ended her life because another huge part
was knowing, you know, with the the
scene with the camera said everything.
It's like this memory card is full
>> and my brain has decided we're not going
to go back to memories. We're going to
jumble all your memories and get you to
the point where you don't know who you
are. You don't know who you're talking
to. Alzheimer's does that. You your son
will be standing right in front of you.
You don't know who he is.
>> Yeah.
>> And they say, "Mom, remember this." And
they just,
>> you know, I went through that with my
grandmother. And she didn't want to
experience her memories and her legacy
leaving her right in front of her face.
And And she I I I it's hard to say I
understood why she did it, you know. Um,
and and I love that she did the road
trip and was like, I'm going to make
these new memories, then I'm going to go
out the way I want to. I'm not going to
go out not remembering my best friend's
face. Yeah.
>> And that was so sad. But their
friendship, um, I haven't seen Tyler
Perry capture characters like that since
this film.
>> Right on. Duly noted. I I I can't I got
I don't really remember for color girls
and and I can do bad all by myself, but
uh I can't wait to revisit those. But
everything you said I I do agree with.
And what I like about it is from the
jump from the beginning of the film, you
their friendship does feel real and
genuine and you don't even really know
how they became friends until halfway in
the film. It's called the family that
prays. Her family was trying to prey on
her urban development 30 years ago and
she wouldn't budge. just like no I'm not
selling or whatever they said and uh
actually ended up making her a
millionaire at the very end now
especially you know had to deal with
racism and the
>> well she had always she had always been
a millionaire
>> am I oh really
>> yeah Alfrey Wood she had always been not
always but she had been a stakeholder
for many year I think the movie said
like 15 years she just never told
anybody
her friend set her up
>> she was a millionaire before she met
Charlotte No, no, no, no. Not before she
met Charlotte. She wasn't. But um Oh, I
thought I'm sorry. I thought you said at
the end she made her a millionaire.
>> No, no, no. It was revealed at the end.
>> Oh, revealed. Yes. Yes.
>> Maybe maybe I said it wrong. And also
the point that you made, Kim. Um, as far
as another way that can relate is they
both raised their children. And the
relation I mean with uh Alice's
character, she had two daughters. She
had Andrea played by Sonia Lean and Pam
played by Taraji P. Hson raised in a two
same household but two completely
different daughters. You know, Pam was
the the you know the the golden child.
What you want, loving, respectful, you
know, did a great job. Apple fall to not
too far from the tree. But Andrea was
the devil. She was evil, you know. And
again, what I like about it is is I'm
pretty sure that Alice was not proud of
the job that she did raising Andrea and
the way that she turned out because at
one point towards the end she says, "You
are not going to be fulfilled by giving
misery to other people. It's just not
going to work that way. Stop it. I see
where you're going." That was very, very
powerful.
>> That was very powerful.
>> She was like, "Where did I go wrong with
you?" You know, but even though in a
sense she kind of effed up in a way.
Well, actually, I don't want to make any
assumptions. U Alice was still able to
find some peace and joy and a light at
the end of the tunnel, you know, at the
at the by the end of the film, you know.
And I just said that when I was watching
that scene, I was saying to myself, you
may mess up here and there in life. We
all make mistakes and things may not
always turn out the way that you want.
You know, her her husband left her 30
years ago. One of her children is evil,
you know, but she was still able to find
peace. I I think it was still a happy
ending for her, you know, and I I I like
that. And again, it hit me personally. I
know I'm talking a lot because I'm when
I did my nonspoiler review, I was just
saying to myself, there's been times in
my life I'm like, damn, how am I going
to get out of this? My life is over. Oh,
over, you know, just being crazy, you
know? But now I'm alive. I'm like, you
know what? I got through it. It's not
that bad, you know. And I was able to
relate to Alice's character in that same
way, you know, cuz she looked hurt and
broken at the end where she saw that her
daughter was a spawn of Satan, you know,
but it still didn't matter though. She
had that dress in that back seat full of
clothes and she said, "I'm going to go
on this road trip solo, you know." Um,
if if it wasn't obvious to you, I loved
it. U, any you got any thoughts there?
Yeah, I mean I think I think again I
love the character development in this
film and I haven't really seen it since
coming from Tyler Perry because it's so
realistic to life. Um you can be there
are brothers and sisters out there that
are like excuse me that are like dang I
can't believe I was raised with the same
parents in the same household as my
sibling and we are so different. That is
so real. That is so true. There's some
people that the way they treat people
and move through life, you're like,
"Wow, they must have been abused. They
must have had a a witch for a mother."
And then you meet the mother and the
other siblings and you're like, "Wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait.
How did you come from that sweet, sweet
woman?" And your siblings are so
reasonable and kind and
>> yeah,
>> considerate and and I had it all
twisted. You're not, you know, this sad
sad case. you choose this, you know, and
that's so real and and the way he
fleshed that out through the characters
was really good because I think if you
had seen um Salan's character was
Andrea, if you had seen her separately,
you would have assumed the house she
came from was like because it was like
she was grabbing at every little bit of
happiness she could, no matter who she
grabbed it from. And you would have been
like, "Dang, did she grow up this way or
that way or or was she on the street?"
and never knew love. And it's like, no,
she had a wonderful mother. So that's so
that was so real for him to write
>> to write it like that. I loved that. Um
and and sadly, I think at times you
looked at her and said, "Oh my gosh,
nobody's that mean. Nobody's that." And
actually, yeah, there are so many people
like her. There are so many people
walking in trying to be the third member
of somebody's marriage because they're
like, "I want my happiness." Why do you
can't pray on somebody else's? You can't
cause misery and receive happiness,
honey. If he he did it to you, if he did
it with you, he'll do it to you.
>> Exactly.
>> Okay. And so, um, I I just love the way
he wrote these characters. Um, and and I
just love the way as a mother, you got
to see how she did want the best for her
kids, but sometimes you just can't
control that. And I think she had that
in common with Charlotte and her son
>> of like shaking her head like you want
to vote me out of my own company like
>> in so many words. Where did I go wrong
with you? And then she's saying the same
thing. Where did I girl? Where did I go
wrong with you? Um that was excellent
character development. That was very
very good writing.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It it it was it was uh we
got a nice balance though while um you
know so now Lean is playing the black
evil witch you know we also got a nice
wholesome woman.
>> You got a lot of names for her bro.
>> She was she was she was
>> Satan evil.
You're real. It's real. I just think
it's the names are funny.
>> Yeah. We also got uh Miss Robin Given
here, you know.
>> Oh, I love I forgot she was in this
film.
>> I did too. And I love
>> I love her too. I love her too. I'm
trying to Where where is her name? What
what is her name in this room? Abby.
Abby. You know, she went to uh she got a
law degree. Um also, I think it was
accounting as well. New CEO COO of the
company. The exchange that she had with
uh Andrea in the office. I I love that.
That was another high point for me. You
know, just like, hey, uh what's going
on? You know, there's a no fratonizing
policy here. Well, you know, we're going
to get you out of here. You're fired.
Okay. this, you know, we looking at
these statements and these hotels. You
in room 626, you know what I'm saying?
Don't be, are you having an affair with
Mr. Cartright? Sisters like you
make it look bad for sisters like me and
they way to the top. You know what I'm
saying?
>> You said everything that the people in
the audience. I feel like that was one
of those moments where people will be
like, "Thank you. Thank you." Yeah.
Because yeah, it makes us all look bad.
It makes us, you know, one can spoil the
whole pot. It really can. and and leave
a taste in people's mouth thinking, you
know, the new black girl that comes to
the company, oh, you probably gonna try
to sleep the CEO. And it's like, oh man,
no, you know, like, yeah. Yeah, that was
that was powerful. I really really
appreciated her character.
>> I I did too. Uh, it it was quite nice.
And so, uh, shout out to Robin Gibbons.
Um, because
>> sophisticated but appropriate. She's
like when old boy tried it, she's like,
"Oh, dinner with you. That sounds great.
Me and my husband would love that. And
it's like, man, I wish more women would
answer like that rather than getting
yourself in sticky situations. Let me
make it very common to you.
>> Right. Right. Right. Right. And I know
that she went home immediately and told
her husband. So, I got this that
I work with. He trying to be slick and
stuff. So, why don't you show up and we
show out together, you know, on his
>> That's what a marriage should be. That's
how you keep it together. People,
>> shout out to this brother right here. I
don't know your name. Uh was it a uh KD
Strickland? Yeah. Yeah. Looking sharp,
you know, like I'm the husband up in
here, you know. Don't be trying to hit
on my wife. I loved it. I love that. I
wish that Andrea would have done that at
the very beginning of the movie uh when
she was getting married. I mean, Jesus,
>> you barely wanted that, man. That was
horrible. Don't marry somebody that you
barely want. If you're not in fiery,
passionate love, then leave them be.
Like, how selfish of you.
What? Brandon, do you think she married
Why do you think she even married him in
the first place if she was going to just
disrespect the hell out of that man?
>> I don't know. Part of me, you know, of
course I want to blame her. Uh but I
also want to blame him, too.
>> How did you not see this? How did you
not
>> was a dummy? Come on.
>> What? What? What? What are you doing
over here? What are you doing? Um the
Yeah, the writing was on the wall,
Chris. The writing was on the wall. She
was not that into you. Uh I mean he
couldn't see this but she didn't even
like the dress. She was like you know
wearing the dress [clears throat]
and you had no appreciation for it.
>> Yeah. She arguing with her sister and
like I'm just wearing it. I don't want
to hurt my mama feelings and you know if
I was Pam to Raj's character the sister
you know I would have left her back
there as like hey you know you you put
up your own you you get together by
yourself. But man this dude hit on your
wife in front of you man on your wedding
day. Yes, your wife is evil and
conniving, but damn it, you should have
called it quits right there. You should
have known, my guy, you should have
known. Other than you punching him at
the end, you're sleeping with my wife
and about to throw him off the ledge.
You know, Chris, you was a you was a
dumb dumb in this, man. You didn't
deserve it, but crap.
>> Yeah. I wonder what that backstory uh
that that would have been a great whole
movie right there because I'm like, how
does this happen? like women that are so
and I know you and I in our own like
friend circles or f I think everyone in
and answer in the chat you guys but like
haven't we all seen this where like a
really good guy is with a girl that
everybody's like do you not see how evil
she is and it's like they have this
screen over their eyes oh y'all just
don't understand her and then they end
up having a terrible relationship
terrible marriage and get divorced and
then want to talk to people like yeah
man I don't know what happened and
everyone's like
don't know what happened. Like we told
you like I I'm so Brandon that's a whole
another but how does that happen? Like
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> I I don't know. But that was a bummer
because he seemed like a good guy in in
the heart. Like that's so weird.
>> And the way that she would talk to him,
you know, he just trying to get um
>> squashing his dreams.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Just like you don't know how
to conduct yourself in a room full of
businessmen. you don't know how to give
a a proposal, you stutter. You know,
you'll never be a car, right? It's a you
know, I'm like, what? And I'm I was just
like, bro,
why are you letting her talk?
>> I would have drawn papers right there.
>> Doesn't make any sense. What? You weeny,
you weeny man. You know what I'm saying?
But she was still just evil. Like, come
on, man. If your husband says he wants
to be an astronaut, you need to build
him the suit, you know? Okay, I'm
exaggerating a little bit, but still.
Oh, but like yeah, if you're not going
to ride or die for your man, like
they're speaking truth. Like, babe, you
know what? I really think we need to
have a second person look over this
business plan. But like you you stay
with it. You encourage and and that's
what marriage is, is taking that that
adventure and taking that risk and
going, "Okay, you know, it's me and
you." Whether we're in a tiny apartment
or a big mansion, it's still me and you.
So,
>> at at one point, I said to myself, maybe
Pam, Tarani P. Henson's character should
have been married to Chris Dumbar's
character because Tyler's character, he
was like, "Hey baby, you know, I'm
chilling right now, Ben." He was like,
"Look, can we can we not be dreamers and
just relax? I think we got a good life."
And she's like, "Well, you did used to
be a dreamer and I don't I don't want a
million dollars. I just want a new
couch, a new sofa."
>> Yeah, I liked her so much.
>> I did, too. She She was great, you know.
She was just like, "Let's just not
settle, you know." But then you had
Dumbar over here, Chris, that's just
like, I want to go to the other galaxy
and meet the aliens and start a
construction company, you know? Uh, I
mean, I still did like being and Pam's
relationship, but I was like, you know,
this is that would have been an
interesting relationship, some alternate
universe or something like that.
>> Uh, what you learned from this, man,
don't be Andrea. You know, speak life
and confidence and love into your
husband. Help him out. Okay? If he has a
>> or set him free. If you can't, then set
him free. You know what? I just can't do
this anymore. Let's co-parent. Let's I
think staying together and being
miserable is is incredibly detrimental
to children and and even her child. Like
even even not wanting to pay your
sister.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, like how dare you? Like you
know she's struggling
>> and you're going to complain because you
got to pay her. Like bro,
>> you got you know you can just throw away
$5,000 and stuff. And uh well, not throw
away, you know, she wrote the check. But
going back to Andre, Andrea and uh
Chris, like she didn't give him no love,
no affection. He trying to, you know, he
he making pizza look like it was
homemade from scratch, you know. Hey
baby, I got the dinner on the table.
It's fun. It's pizza Thursday.
And I got some pizza pockets in the
oven. I got some Netflix, you know. I
got the oil. Let me rub your feet. I'm
tired, Chris. Okay. I just got done
smashing carrite. you know,
she was uh she was so mean, but I was
just mad at him. Like, you know, I be
like, "Fuck is wrong with you?" Like,
that's [laughter] that's I'm putting
myself in um in his shoes, man.
>> It made you mad. It made you mad, man.
>> It really did, man.
>> Yeah.
>> Did because that was u that was just
unnecessary. You spoke on it briefly,
though. Um Pam and Ben and Pam, Tyler
and Taraj, what did you think about
their relationship, their their dynamic?
Um, I gotta check out the release dates,
but I think aside from Boris, was it
Boris Cojo's bad afro in one of his
films, like that had been the worst afro
>> wig? Like, this was I feel like this was
the beginning of
black folks being like, Tyler,
>> what's going on?
>> I know you got some better wig people in
your production. Like, get someone from
Broadway. get someone that understands a
front lace like black people were like
>> why was it necessary at all just you
know
>> um you you do is not doing my brother
like I just oh Tyler God bless him but
um I I um I think it's interesting the
dynamic that they had but at least they
were kind to one another
>> you know and I love that that she was
ride or die like I love the way she
loved him
>> um and I really felt for her and that
and I I know there's sisters all over
the place that are like God girl you are
so selfish you are so this you are so
that
>> um I felt for them I wanted more for
them uh you know but in in terms of just
like it's okay to dream you have this
woman when you have a woman that
believes in you should feel like you can
do anything and you should have the
courage to take the steps because as you
can see your friend has the courage but
he doesn't have the woman and that is so
much of his troubles.
>> Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I I liked it too. Their
relationship was u nice. Um as far as
Ben is concerned, I understand where
he's coming from. Um I kind of wish he
was honest with Chris a little earlier
in the film. He's like, "Man, everybody
know u you know your your your wife is
smashing our boss and all of that." Um,
Chris could have still did a better job
with his proposals or, you know, maybe
Tyler could have wrote that better. But,
um, you know, and I guess that's just
like a a little nitpick right there. So,
another character that I did like um was
Jillian Cartright, the wife of uh
William. Now,
>> at one point, I was kind of confused as
to why Charlotte has such a disdain for
her character. The only thing I can come
up with is she was mad that she either
thought that she was a gold digger and
the fact that they eloped when she was
younger and she wasn't able to, you
know, attend the wedding, you know,
which I can understand. Um I don't want
to say, okay, you can get over that. But
was there any other reason why she she
didn't really care for um for Jillian?
Because, you know, at the end she was
like, "Oh, Jillian, you're here in my
flower garden without calling." Gave her
some dope ass advice. I did like that.
That was that was
>> I love that scene. Uh, so you can
comment on that, but I couldn't think of
any other reason why she didn't really
care for her, unless you can help me
out.
>> Yeah, I think when when you have a very
strong woman like that, a very um is for
for any office friends, for any office
fans, uh if you love Kathy Bates in the
office, I it was funny because her
character in the office and her
character in this film are very similar.
They're they're female CEOs and they are
just strong southern women. They're
almost the same character. If you're an
office fan, you totally know what I'm
talking about. Um, but
I think like when I think of that type
of woman, and I've seen that type of
woman here in California where I am. Uh,
I've seen, you know, the archetype of
that that female CEO. The brain, your
brain is a bit different when you're um
when you spend your whole career, 30, 40
years in boardrooms full of men. Um,
you're a different kind of mother.
you're a different kind of wife. The
strength that you have to carry uh you
tap into your masculine energy a lot and
you're very you kind of I I do
understand her because when a woman
comes along that's not like you. You
want another strong woman. You want
another woman that it's like I can see
through what my husband's doing and
that's okay because I got a few on the
side myself. Like like I think what she
didn't like in her daughter-in-law was,
"Oh, you're just one of those sweet
ones." Yeah. I Yeah. I can when a man
tries it with me, honey, I can run them
over run them over the, you know, run
them through the ground, run them off a
building. Like I'm this superwoman and
you're this little mouse. And so I think
her disdain for her, it was more it
wasn't like I hate you. It was more like
I kind of don't respect other women that
aren't as strong or as smart as me.
>> Yeah.
>> And I I can understand that because she
kind of it was a mix of of like you just
don't belong like this. If you're going
to be in this family, you got to be
strong and you got to be able to hold
your own and I don't have time for you
because I'm not going to hold your hand.
I really don't I I didn't do a lot of
crying. I recognized what my marriage
was from Jump. I recognized the type of
family I was marrying into from jump and
I had the strength when I took over the
company. I got the gumption, but you're
this little mousy. Oh, and as soon as
you understand who my son is, you're
going to crumble and I just don't want
to hear it. And so, I don't think it was
hate. I think it was the different
mentalities between
>> I like that
>> women who are very will cuss out a man
in a business meeting and women that'll
run and cry in the bathroom. There's a
huge difference between that type of
chick. And it's not it wasn't hate. It
was I just don't have time for your
crying. Cowboy up and and be a woman.
That's how I think she was. And that's
why I think she gave her that gold
advice because she was like, "Finally,
you're realizing what this is. Finally,
I can talk to you how I want to talk to
you, which is get him in line and then
get you some side piece like girl and
get your money and, you know, show up
and show out at the hotel like girl
cowboy up.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and she did, you know,
um Charlotte can relate too. Um you
know, she says that her husband was
having an affairs and she said at one
point she was having her own too. Um I
think was had three divorces, you know.
Um, also shout out to uh Cowboy Rick
Slick at the end. You know, he had some
game over, you know, got the dance at,
you know, I liked him. Um, when they was
at the at the bar before they went on
the strip club, you know what I'm
talking about? Uh, he Hey, how you like
before they went to the to the bar.
>> That was an adorable scene. And it made
me wish she wasn't having Alzheimer's
because I'm like, this could be a good
dude for you. Yeah, I like that. I like
that.
>> That was nice. That was nice. But yes,
you are correct. um you know with
everything that you said about Charlotte
there and their relationship. I I do
like that. Well said. Well said. Well
said. Um and um what was the name?
Jillian. You know she did uh she did
cowboy it up and it was nice where she
met Andrea in the hotel room
>> 626 like he ain't f to marry you. You
dumb he that's why you are confined to
this little room right here. He don't
want to be seen with you in public. And
she's like, "Oh, she she how dumb ass
really think he was gonna marry her?" It
felt so
>> she was standing her ground and being
like, "You know what? You could be here
and doing all these things, but I am not
giving up my husband and I'm not giving
up this money and and I will fight you."
That was really I love that because you
could she could have been like up in
there with tears with mascara running
down her face talking about why why why
but instead she kept her composure and
was like look ho
>> um not going anywhere and he's not going
to leave me. So
>> called her pathetic called her pathetic
you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I love it.
>> Um
>> do you think the strategy of Chris
running around from business to business
to bank to bank? Hey man, I'm trying to
start a business. I need some money. It
ends up not only getting him fired, but
Ben fired too. Not only that, Kim, he
goes to the bank to get $40
and finds out that he has $286,000
in the bank.
>> He didn't have it. [laughter]
>> Wife had it in and another
>> home girl had it.
>> Who makes that type of money? Also, she
had a $65,000 salary,
but has the house paid for, cars paid
for, designer bags, designer clothes,
not telling her husband about the gala.
What is going on, Kimberly?
>> What is going on? Um, what would you do
if you found out that you just had an
extra $286,000 in the account? What you
What would you do? Would you go buy a
bunch of tacos, give it to the homeless,
buy your mama house? What What would you
do?
>> That's a great question, Brandon.
>> Probably buy some
>> I'd get a lawyer immediately. And I'm
not saying And I'm not saying And I'm
not saying just to get a divorce. Like
I'm not saying like, oh, I'm just so
quick for divorce. But I'd get a lawyer
and I would find I would find out
everything legally. Um because obviously
if if it's in the shared checking, that
was dumb on her. First of all, these
people are not very smart. Um, why isn't
at another bank in a in a secret account
that he can't get to? That's dumb. First
of all, bro, why are you not Why is your
house not in order? Why do you not know
how many accounts are under your name?
It's very easy to log in. Um, but get
your house in order, everybody. But I
would get a lawyer immediately and find
out just legally what what are we doing?
I don't want it. You want to be sneaky
like that? Go ahead, keep it.
>> Oh, I'm bouncing. Keep it. I don't want
you
>> open up a business.
>> No, no, no. I'll leave with whatever I
have in my bank account. You do all that
without me. I don't want whatever this
is a part of, but I would get a lawyer
because one, how the hell did you get
that money?
>> Is it illegal? My name's on the account.
So, am I all of a sudden wrapped up in
this? I mean, how many times have we
seen uh spouses go down with the ship
because that's in both of our names,
stupid. You know what I'm saying? Like,
like I would immediately get a lawyer.
But it wasn't smart. I understand that
he um he had dreams. This is why I
really appreciate corporations that have
continuing education for their
employees, which there's a lot of great
corporations out there. Um, I think it's
important side note for people if you're
like looking for a job to go off of the
list of the top 100 companies to work
for in your state because there are
companies that are like, "Oh, you want
to learn more about business? We will
pay for you to go to school." I think he
should have sought education before he
was like zero to 60 because something
that you can't do that actually if you
think about it aside from all the the
affair and drama him getting fired was
correct.
>> If you work for a company you cannot go
after their competitors for your own
contracts. That was a he they were
correct in firing him for that reason,
not for I want to smash your wife, but
[laughter] he needed more knowledge. I
think I think it would have been more
respectable for him to for him to go to
the company and go, I really am
interested in learning more about
business. What mentorship? There's a lot
of mentorship programs out there.
There's like six sigma. There's like a
lot of business um leadership and
mentorship um aside from just going back
to school. A lot of companies, I was in
a program at a mortgage company that had
a a six-month educational process for me
to get six steps ahead and there was
homework and I had tests and I was in
like I was kind of in school through my
company. So, I think he should have
sought knowledge rather than I have this
great idea, so I'm just going to contact
who should I contact? Oh, all of my
company's competitors and see if they'll
buy into it,
bro. Let's get some education.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, um he got the boot, man.
And
>> yeah,
>> the drama unfolded at the diner cam, you
know.
>> Oh. Oh, man.
>> I lost a job and he's just like, we're
going to start our own company. Just pie
in the sky, you know. That was very
fairy tale.
>> Brandon, I have a question for you.
>> What's up? What's going on? What would
you do if you went to get out some money
and saw that your wife had another
account and had and you up in here
praying that your $40 comes through and
come to find out you got $260,000.
What would you do, my friend?
>> Uh, I don't want to steal your answer.
Uh, BECAUSE [laughter]
>> GO AHEAD, STEAL IT. It's okay.
>> That did not come to my mind at first,
even though that is probably the
smartest thing to do. That would
probably be the wisest. Um, I would
probably get something to eat.
>> Um, now then I would um I don't know. I
would probably
I mean I would ask her, okay, where did
this money come from? Like you know, who
made the deposit? How was the deposit
made? You know, at what time when uh you
know, because that that would narrow a
lot of things down.
>> Um I probably wouldn't want to let it go
and I would try to withdraw as much as I
could just to have some cash on me. But
at the same time, I would be nervous
like my name is on this as well. If this
is illegal, I don't want to go to jail.
You know, ignorance of the law is not an
excuse. Of course, I will call my
spouse. Uh but getting something to eat
first and probably withdraw. [laughter]
>> Would you like go eat at a Michelin star
restaurant? You're like, you know what?
Before we even get into this,
>> yeah, let me enjoy myself.
>> I am going to go to French Laundry and
just experience this once and then we'll
start fighting. But I'm gonna have this
lamb.
>> [laughter]
>> Uh, but no, I I will definitely be on
the phone. Uh, because we we gota we got
to figure this out, you know.
>> Would you open a business with that
money?
>> Uh,
>> was he wrong for doing that? Brandon,
>> I was going to ask you that.
>> Was that Was that stealing? Was that
stealing?
>> Stealing is not the word. [laughter]
>> Getting mine is the word.
>> He didn't steal it. I mean they are
married so it is their money but you
know u that that still can ruin their
relationship by not communicating you
know um
>> but she hoed really well for that money
she worked hard for that money
[laughter]
you're right you're right
money not good money you know I don't
want dirty money and that's some dirty
money right there so bank money you know
but
>> um yeah so they lost a job and she comes
storming Tasmanian devil in Donna Crest,
where's all my money? That's my money. I
sl my way to the top four. Baby, it's
okay. I got a business. You stupid. You
You ain't going to beat no
car, right? You both are losers. And Ben
said, "Wait a minute now. You could talk
to him that way. But you're not going to
talk to me that way. Trick, I got your
lose over here. I'll come smack you
around." Ben, calm down. That's Pam. And
u you know, y'all will never be a
cartright. Ain't nobody want to be no
cartright trick. I was laughing my ass
off. This is where the comedy was coming
in. And uh man, the disrespect was
crazy. It was crazy. She was like, "You
a loser. You ain't He's my man, Chris.
He's my man." That's where all the
[laughter]
like like it was supposed to happen, you
know, and being over there like you
dummy. Everybody know that getting booty
at the job and at the [laughter]
se you know she's like a door knob.
everybody
[laughter]
>> and not getting booty of the job.
>> My man like that is D.
>> And then did she say like the son was
like and that boy angel?
>> Yeah. After after he smacked her and she
did the 520 degree spin over the man.
That was a joyous occasion right there
in the theater. That
>> that was that was domestic violence.
Domestic violence. people erupted more
in that scene than they did in Avengers
Endgame when Captain America got me on
there. You know what I'm saying? Um,
yeah, it was a mess of violence, but
>> it would have been better to like throw
a milkshake in her face than like go
from like because I remember that scene
Brandon and in the theater I was like,
"Yeah, wait, that's domestic violence.
Wait, I can't cheer at this." Like, he
should have thrown like a a pie, a slice
of pie or a milkshake or whipped cream.
Like, but he's disagree with physically
assaulted her.
>> He did. He did. Um to to be honest with
you, that was the first time in my life
where uh women across the board
universally was okay with a a man
slapping a woman. I'm I'm not I'm not
saying that myself like, "Hey, this is
the only time where it's okay." Not
saying that at all.
>> Yes, you are.
>> No, [clears throat] I'm not. [laughter]
I didn't care in this scene right here.
I was just like, hey, you know, uh I
didn't care. You know, usually I care,
but in this scene, I I didn't let us
know what y
>> how you gonna do us like this. We've
been married all these years. We got a
son together. Your son is a cop, right?
Man, that was uh that was awful right
there.
>> Yikes.
>> I was curious at the end, you know, when
they kind of did the montage showing the
ending of everybody's story. She's all
humble with her hair in a ponytail, look
like she's at a motel. He shows up. I'm
like, why are you there, bro? That is
not your child. Y'all better be divorced
now. You know, you free, my guy. You are
free. Um
>> Yeah. But you love your baby. And that's
just that's what it is. It's not the
kid's fault.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> And that that's him being a good man.
That's being a good man. And you know
what? There's a lot of men out there
raising kids that were a result of them
getting cheated on. And I just want to
take the time, Brandon, and to all our
viewers, if that's you, I just want to
applaud you because those stories are
out there and it's not the kid's fault.
I thought that was great that he was
still showing up because you know who
wasn't there.
>> What was that?
>> Oh boy. Cartright.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if if it felt
so good, man, when she William, I've
been calling you. Why I have to answer
the phone? I I know. You know,
>> rip.
>> I lost my job. It's okay, baby.
>> Dude, let's talk about Cole Hower, dude.
RIP.
>> For any Yellowstone fans, uh, you know,
he looks so different. I mean, his whole
like acting career, he's had like
reddish hair and like his weight was way
different. So, a lot of people don't
know. If you guys don't know, that's Rip
from Yellowstone. Okay, that's that's
our dude. Anybody that watches
Yellowstone loves them some Rip and
Beth. But Rip, that is Rip when back
when he was a redhead, when he was a
ginger, which y'all know that means he's
a brother. [laughter] But
but yeah, I What did you think of him? I
I liked him. He was a white devil. Uh he
was evil. Um he he he played the role
very well. Praying on everybody, praying
on the weak, you know. He was successful
with uh you know, getting Andrea. Uh but
but not but not uh but not Robin Given
character, not Abby. So, um but he was
he was a nasty man, but did did a really
good job. Uh I'm I'm mad at um Chris at
the beginning where he hit on his wife
in front of him at the wedding. It's
like, whoa, bro. Don't just step to her
like that and grab her on the shoulder
at the very beginning. But I thought he
did great. What What did you think? How
did you think he did?
>> I just I love him. Man, I love that
character. He's he's one of those actors
that plays bad so well. He plays the bad
guy so so well. And it's sad that when
you get in a certain level of um uh you
know um much like oh god what's my my
HBO film about um succession much like
succession when you mix mix business and
family it's so brutal because you could
have like if that wasn't his son like
yeah you might have just cause to be
like you're getting older ma'am you're
forgetting things I want your seat so
I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to the board
and I'm going to go for the seat like
Yeah, that's brutal business. And in a
business sense, maybe you can't blame
someone for recognizing like that. But
when that's your mother,
>> Yeah.
>> and you're trying to get her to sell her
shares and and give up her voting rights
on the board and then vote her out.
Wow.
That's evil. That's like that's the love
of money is the root root of all evil.
Money is not the root of all evil,
y'all. Stop misquing that. The love of
money is the root of all evil. And he
loved money more than he loved his
mother.
>> It's craziness. Craziness.
>> Wow.
>> He deserve to be uh thrown over the
ledge here.
>> Thrown. No. Shown what it would be like.
Yes.
I don't condone murder, but just giving
you a peek out the window of what could
be.
>> I don't know. Ain't nothing wrong with
that. [laughter]
I'm okay with that. you got shown the
door. But like, yeah. Um, he did he
needed somebody to to scare him out of
that because at the end of the day, you
screw you screw around with enough
people, your money will not protect you.
>> We see that every day.
>> This is true.
>> You you keep messing with the little
people, at the end of the day, we're
just two men with two fists. Like,
what's up?
>> You know,
>> um, do you have any thoughts on Mr. pick
here. The broker that lost his job, wife
died.
Oh, I love I really um you know that was
kind of a side story that again this is
I would say this is one of the best
written Tyler Perry films Brandon
because
that was kind of a side story that was
written very well
>> because um I didn't feel like I know we
talked about in the last movie where
there was like that side story um that
was like that wasn't fleshed out well um
with uh Dire from Mad Black Woman where
we had the drug addict, you know, like I
know that wasn't fleshed out well. That
was a side story that was like we we
need to know more, but this was good. I
I learned just enough about him. I love
the relationship between um him and um
and um Alfred Wood's character. I
thought it was beautiful um just that
she had that mentality as a as a diner
owner, as a restaurant owner of you know
what, she had clothes in the back ready
>> for someone in need. I love that. For
those very super side note, Brandon, for
those of you that don't know, John
Bonjovi has a restaurant where um it's
for homeless people and if they can pay,
great. If they can't, that's fine. And
uh that's what this made me think of is
like, wow, you got clothes in the back
ready to help people. You are fine
giving them from free bread, free soup,
free meal, eat this salad. Just go take
care of yourself. I think if you're if
you're a business owner and you're not
giving back like that, then what's your
per why are you even doing this? What's
what's the purpose of wealth if you're
not going to share it? I thought that
was beautiful. But I love that that's
not unrealistic
actually to happen because so many of
the people that are on the side of the
freeway, outside of the store with a cup
saying, you know, anything that can
help, you do not know somebody's
backstory. and all it takes is tragedy
for someone to completely come outside
their mind to the point where they're
living on the street. There's a lot of I
would venture to say there's a lot of
stories like that that we walk past
every day and I thought that was a
really beautiful part of the story.
Brandon, I like that he was a
shareholder. I like that it explained
the relationship when he was like, you
know, did your mom tell your mom to do
that thing because she needs to do it.
remember like I like that he was still
using his business acumen to help her
and she was just I thought that was so
beautiful. I I loved it. Loved it. Loved
it. And I love that he was like the the
the board member, you know, I just the
whole thing just warmed my heart.
>> Oh, that's what's up. Highlight for you.
Um I liked it too. Um something else as
well, uh another supporting character,
the assistant at the at the firm.
I like her.
>> She was funny. Um I like
>> she was in um Why Did I Get Married? She
played the W the um baby mama.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. The one that was like so so
>> that's the same person. Wow.
>> Yeah. Same girl.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You know, she got a little
tipsy at the party at the gala, you
know, but she was appreciative of Abby
the next day. But when Cartwright,
William Cartwright,
um, Sal and Andrea, uh, Chris, the
husband and
Abby met in front of the assistant's
desk right there, uh, in the office. And
Chris was like, "Hey, I'm trying to, you
know, talk to you about a proposal." And
Cartwright said, "Okay, give me 15
minutes." And he was like, "Clear out my
schedule." The assistant called Andrea
right there and was like, "Your 15
minute meeting is going to be late." She
actually answered the phone. I laughed
my ass off right there. That was so But
they all knew that she was conniving. So
they, you know, Abby and the assistant
knew that that Andrea was evil. So, um,
you know, I liked it. That was petty,
but it was lovely. Um, Ken, we both love
the movie, or at least I did. Um, you
have any final thoughts, or did I leave
anything out? Final thoughts are T if
Tyler Perry's watching this, I don't
know if you are, man, we still believe
in you and please go back to this forum.
>> Yes,
>> please go back to this forum. Please
have um just a great cast, black
characters, white characters. There are
some great actors um that are not black
that I would love to see in a Tyler
Perry film. I mean, I know actually I
don't know if did Tyler Perry do that
kind of scary one where Glen Close was
in Was that a Tyler Perry film? The one
where Andrea um what's her name? Where
the boy was possessed.
>> No, that was not Tyler Perry, I don't
think.
>> I don't know.
>> But like like Glen Close was in a film.
It was like a black film, but Glen Close
played like the mother. Um
>> do you remember the around what year it
came out?
>> Like it like two years ago, I think. Um,
yeah. I'm sorry to bring it up like
surprising you, but I'm just saying like
there are some really great actors,
black or white, that I would love to see
in a Tyler Perry film, and I would love
to for him to return to this form. Um,
where he's really taking time to flush
out the characters. He's really taking
time to step outside of a super obvious
plot where many of his viewers are going
to go, "Oh, it's Tyler Perry film. I
know what's going to happen. I know
what's going to happen. I know what's
going to happen. This was a film that
was like, although you kind of saw the
direction certain characters were going
in, the way things were fleshed out, it
was very satisfying without being
extremely predictable. Um I just
whatever mode he was in in this film, I
don't know some write some people when
they write they go away from their home.
You know, I think he's in Atlanta. Maybe
you go to a ranch in Montana and you
write, "Whatever you did, whatever tea
you had that morning, sir, whatever uh
amount of hours of sleep you had,
whatever you did to give us the family
that praise, let's repeat that. I'd love
to see this quality again, but with
great wigs. I would love to see this
writing again. I would love to see this
allstar cast that is so well blended
again." And the production value. Um,
Brandon, I don't know if you know the
budget of this film, but the production
value. Let's go to the investors. Let's
get that production value. Again, this
is the kind of Tyler Perry movie I want
to see. And after 20 some odd years in
the biz, he has no excuse but to produce
this kind of content. And that's my
thought.
>> Yes. Uh, and the budget is $15 million,
it look like. So,
>> it's well well used. Well used. Uh, what
was that? Straw.
>> Oh, straw. Was it 6,000 bucks?
[laughter]
>> Let's see. Whoa. 20 million.
>> Don't you dare.
>> That don't make sense.
>> Don't you dare. Oh my gosh.
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay,
wait. No, but films like is 2019 had a
Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Wait. So, information not yet available.
Okay. No.
>> Okay. Because I was going to say, don't
you dare tell me. Well, in that in that
case, just just return to form, good sir
Tyler Perry, please.
>> Let me ask uh chat GPT.
>> Good lord.
>> Curious. What does chat GPT say?
>> That better that better not have been a
$20 million budget for a straw. Don't
you do that to us, man. [clears throat]
>> This is hilarious. It says uh it says it
was a budget of zero dollars.
>> Chat said that.
>> Hold on, let me bring it up. [laughter]
Hold
on. Let me actually take that down
because
>> the AI tells no lies. [laughter]
>> Now y'all can see my my desktop. Let me
unshare this real quick. I be looking
all crazy stuff on chat.
>> Dope desktop, by the way.
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I can't wait. So until next time, don't
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and that is just our opinion. Peace out.
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