TUBI Changed And The Money Changed! Notorious Big, Ice Cube & Barber Shop | Jamal Woolard

We the first ones that started Tuby though. >> Really? >> Yeah. Me and Man Robinson Turn was the first thing that was on Tuby. >> Get out of here. I didn't know that. So before that, explain that. Break that down to me. Were they just doing like reruns and different? >> No, they were doing things, but we was the first ones to do a real indie on Tuby. Me and Man Robinson with the first turn that we did. And then at that time when we was doing Tuby, it was uh $13. $13. >> Yeah. We on Boss Talk 101. Yeah. We going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. It's a unique hustle. >> Check it. Check it check this unique hustle. It's your boy Eco and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? >> No, no, no. I want you all to stop what you're doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us from all social media platforms. When I mean all, I mean all Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, Snapchat, you name it. Ronnie, just Google us Boss Dog Podcast 101. 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What's up, man? I'm so happy to get back and see you, bro. You're looking good, too, man. You're shining, man. >> What's up, brother? What's going on, man? I just, man, every time I look around, man, I love the way that really for the culture, bro. You are one that I look at and and it like you know Hollywood ain't the same no more bro. All that stuff didn't change but you kept the grind going to where people could have something. You can't make excuses. >> No man I just love keeping it you know keep it grounded man. Keeping it >> but the way that that you are basically it's like favor. You know favor ain't fair. God give you favor like in this dry season for a lot of them. And I and these are my partners. A lot of them it's not they're not working because they say, "Oh man, things done changed now. Man, it's tough, man. They ain't paying, man. The writer strike." I heard all this stuff throughout the years. >> It's true. It's true. >> But you found a way to figure it out, to keep going, to do your art, bro. That is dope to me. >> I mean, you just got to work and put God first, number one. Then you got to work and make a way where you don't need people to dictate how you live your life. >> That's real. That's real. >> Saying social media is one thing. That's a whole another handful. You know what I'm saying? But >> you got to get out here and do you do what works for you. You know what I'm saying? I don't live for social media. You know what I'm saying? >> I live for me. >> But you got to realize, Greg, when you first came in the game, >> I know you couldn't see too because all that stuff wasn't going on at the time. >> We the first ones that started Tuby though. >> Really? >> Yeah. Me and Man Robinson Turn was the first thing that was on Tuby. >> Get out of here. I didn't know that. So before that, explain that. Break that down to me. Were they just doing like reruns and different? >> No, they were doing things, but we was the first ones to do a real indie on Tuby. me and man Robinson with the first turn that we did. And then at that time when we was doing Tuby, it was uh $13. $13. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Now, now things is just terrible with Ty because they doing um they cutting back so much man's cost cuz you know we getting rich off them. >> Is it is it because of oversaturation or >> um I don't really know what the what the problem is. Um I don't really know man, but I know that it's it's really been cut. It went from $13 to $472, I think. $4.72 that you make now. >> So, it really ain't no money unless you making enough product to put out there and you can recover from another project. And if you shooting your movies for less than 25,000, then it's some room. But other than that, you got to go to other sites like Amazon Prime. Um, I'm about to try a new network. You can go to Man Robinson Network. He got a good network that I'm about to start investing in and messing with. That's crazy that you basically what I when I started the question off it was more like >> we didn't see it coming. You started it. >> Did you ever feel like this would happen when you first started when you was doing like the Biggie movie and all these these different movies where they you know these budgets are behind them and stuff. When you when you get to now you're doing it this way, did you ever even think of something like that coming? >> Well, I play both lanes. You know what I'm saying? I play Aless and Bless. So, it don't matter wherever the work is at. That's where I'mma go to work and and make whatever I got to make happen. But the thing is, you can't depend on people to make your growth. You have to make you got to depend on yourself. >> Okay? >> And that's what it's all been about lately. Like it's about people depending on their self and uh selfworth and bet on yourself. And you know, it's all about you and what you could do and how you can lead. And what's happening is with these impressions and how much people making money off of you, you got to start finding a better way to use. social media to make money. >> That's real. That's real. I I like the way that like I said when I see the way you moving in this time. You don't A lot of a lot of struggling going on, bro. People not you you're positioning yourself, babe. What was that dude name that came to Dallas that we interviewed? The the one to be in the tall >> with a long hair braid. Oh god. >> Long braid. He came to Dallas. >> Find that for me because he does a lot of uh tuby as well. Mhm. >> Uh he from Detroit, isn't he? >> Yes. >> Yeah. I forgot his name. He light-skinned brother, but he always in different films and and and it's certain ones that you see that's able to deal with the algorithm of where we're at now. >> Right. >> That's the part right there. A lot of people can't figure that out, bro. >> Right. You got to have something to talk about. You have to have a story or or or something, man. You can't just get on there and be goofy. >> You got to be up there talking about have some substance. Have something going on. um be a writer, be a dancer, be have some type of talent. We all got talents. You just got to find what your talent is. That's all. >> What's the longest one that you've taken doing like far as the two presentation far as you know, usually movies come they they'll do it three four years. Come, you know, the movie come out. What's the longest you've had to take on set to make a mo make a movie happen? >> Oh, it don't take that long to make a movie >> for you. No, we do. We do. Well, so every everybody different, right? Different. Everybody depending on the production team and the director. Everybody's situation is different. I like it. I like to me seven days. >> His name is Tristan for >> that was him. Tristan. >> That's my boy. Yeah. Tristan Detroit. >> Yeah. He came to Dallas and I was like you but I thought about you when I was interviewing him. I was like working man. >> We work we work together for some a lot of products. That's my boy. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He good. He was good. >> What up though? Yeah. But um yeah, it it usually take me about 7 days. >> 7 days. >> Yeah, about 7 days. No more than 10. Man, let me tell you something. I said the other week, I said, "Good dope going to sell." You know what I'm saying? >> I mean, you know, you just got to get the people what they want. >> If it's good, you know what I'm saying? It's going to sell. >> You got you got to do your job. That's all. >> I think the one thing I do look at is like again, it's a tough time for traditional actors, bro. >> Yeah, it is. If you want, I've seen a few of them. They even see cuz they in this spot where they think, see, they're not like you. They think they too maybe too good to come down to Tuby. >> Yeah. A lot of people feel that way, but they don't understand that a dollar is a dollar. It don't matter where it's coming from. >> That's a hustle mentality. >> That's how you supposed to be. That's a hustle mentality. Name >> name my company is called Hustle God. >> There it is. That's what it is. >> See, because it's all about that. You know, God give you enough strength to hustle with that paper. >> That's real, man. >> Shout out to my man Jeff. You know what I'm saying? Um, shout out to my man Gary, too. Get money ent. So, um, you know, we just hustle, man. Go get it. Ain't no reason you could wake up and got 24 hours in a day and you ain't using them. >> What's the first hustle you ever seen yourself when you was a kid growing up? I sold I sold >> gravy. Gravy. That's why they call me gravy. Rap. Rap music. >> You was selling. >> I'm still rapping. I'm still rapping to this day. I just ain't I ain't been putting stuff out like I used to. But for a hobby, I rap. I love rapping. I always love. >> I got to say this. I got to say this while I got you right there. Right there. Where you at? Right. This is a perfect segue for me. >> Rappers, this podcasting, is it over for them? I've heard people say if you podcast >> Mhm. >> It's like, man, that's where it's over. Like the reality show like it's over. >> It's just a part of the game. I'm thinking about doing a podcast. >> You going to do it? >> I'm thinking about I'm thinking about calling it Notorious >> that Oh, man. Come see. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? This is >> fine time though. That's the reason why a lot of these people who start um who rappers or even actors who start podcasting don't normally do well because they don't have the time to keep it consistent. >> Well, first of all, you got to be you got to be consistent. Number one, like you said, number two is you got to be a people person. You got nothing. >> That's exactly it. That's it. >> You ain't If you ain't enlightened to somebody when you talking to them, you shouldn't try to do a podcast because people got to be enlightened that you're talking to them. Like there got to be something about you that I want to entertain this. If it ain't nothing at the time, I'm going to be bored. You going to see it in my face. So you got to be a people person that know how to talk and have fun. It just be you. And it's the one thing people they always be like sometime you hear people like certain people don't know how to receive an interview. They didn't get the ANR training. So it be like >> they'll be like, "Man, why you cut him off?" >> Like it used to be >> why you didn't do this cuz I'm trying to make this a lot. >> I'm flexing it. >> They don't know how to talk. >> It used to be that called artist development. >> That's right. It ain't no more of that. So when you get these youngsters in here, especially them young rappers, the new ones, it be messing with them because you could tell they ain't used to holding a conversation. >> Yeah. They do some something some dumb [ __ ] like put the gun on the top of the table, >> all that with the switch on >> like some dumb ass [ __ ] That's what they do. >> What you doing, my [ __ ] >> And and be like, "What are you doing?" Are they too cool to talk? I don't I don't talk about that. I'm like, >> talk about personal stuff. >> I'm like, "Bro, what are you doing?" >> If you sign up for it, you got to live with it. >> Exactly. And also it it's a way to answer questions. Exactly. Yeah, it is. Exactly. >> You could be respectful, too. Honestly, you could be respect be like, "Yo, let let me talk something about something else." >> If it's touching, it's touching like that. >> But that's what I'm saying. I just interviewed a guy last night. It could have been something that was negative, but I turned into something that was a place of communication and >> and healing to be honest with you because you can switch things. You don't have to you don't have to jug and try to figure out ways. >> Everybody's different. >> Yeah. So, I got to ask you this cuz um Okay, so a lot of people say Tubie movies aren't real cinema, but you started off in um with a blockbuster movie first, big screen movies before you branched off into Tubies. So, but you can still answer this question. Do you feel Tubi gives black actors more freedom or does it box them into that stereotype? >> Um that's a good question. You said there thought about that. Um, I say it's it's both ways, >> okay? >> Because it was a point where you was getting you can get you can get a lot of money off Tuby, >> okay? >> And when we first started Tubi, we was getting $13. >> So you see a couple of films go, people make a $100,000 off a film, 200 bands off a film. That's back then. >> Mhm. >> Now it's so hard to make the money with $4.72. You might >> That's almost like $20 off of every,000 impressions. That's really no money. So it's it's sort of like they got us rich, then they boxed us in. >> You see what I'm saying? So now they they they keeping all the money talking about it's the advertisers's fault that we ain't eating. No, it's they fault because they just cutting back, >> right? Because more and more people are watching tubing now more than what they used to grow because of us, the culture, and what we do as black people making it better. >> Then they need to just raise the raise it back up so everybody can eat. But you know how the game go. >> You know what I'm saying? Fox owned it. Didn't own it at first. >> No, Fox got it now. So, they got more than enough money to make compensated for what we need to do. >> That's right. They give me 10 million. I'll open it up. But >> they got that budget. They need to stop that. They need to open that budget up. >> Yeah. Open it up. >> When I think about that question, I think about how, you know, just like some people who act as, what should I say, TV show actors back then, people think of them as that actor. It's hard for them to recreate themselves into another role. No matter even how well of an actor you are, it's hard for people to see you as somebody else other than that person. Just like you got to move around. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? You don't got to stay boxed in just all too, but you can do other things like when I did Dutch 2 and I did uh City of Lies with John uh uh Johnny Depp and Forest Whitaker. Just move around. Don't And then another thing is stop caring about what other people think. >> Come on now. >> That's the number one thing. That's you think God don't bless you regardless. Yeah, but stop thinking about what somebody else think. They ain't paying your bills, >> man. Let me tell you something. My granddaddy used to take take me fishing, and one thing he'll tell me, "You can't catch no fish watching my line." >> That's all. You can't you can't you can't you can't catch no fish >> watching my line. You know what I'm saying? That's that's a thing where you got to mind your business. Sweep around your own front door, man. >> Yeah. Mind your business. >> The Bibles tell you that. Say you ought to study to mind your own business. >> I looked at that scripture. I was like, man, I'm trying to get this healing. Hey, listen man. >> That's the hardest thing to do >> for a lot of people. That's very hard to do. >> Study to mind your own. >> Mind your own business. It's quicker to look at somebody else rather than looking at themselves. People don't look in the mirror very often. >> Man, that's easy. That's for me, man. I I ain't minding nobody else's business. Just mine. I stay out the way. That's real. >> So, I got So, y'all were talking about rappers earlier. So when you see rappers becoming actors overnight, usually because of their popularity, cuz a lot of these um productions, they say, "Okay, people following them, they already I can make money easy just putting them in a film, although they're not trained to be an actor." >> Do you feel they add value to the culture or take opportunities away from trained actors that could actually had fit that role better because they know what they're doing? >> I think it's both. I think it's both. We watch a lot of movies where we be like, "Man, I ain't I ain't like the way he acted in that or I ain't like the way she acted in that or she a real actor. Is he a real actor?" I mean, it goes both ways. Just got to find something that fit you. And then you could really you could really tell a seriousness about how somebody is acting, if they're taking it serious or not, >> because the work on show, >> right? >> So, if you really on top of your a game, you ain't going to have those problems. You could be in any arena you want to be and be great at it. Well, you talking about taking it serious, but for >> some people just act because they think it's easy, but you're not really acting like you know how many times you watch a two movie, you see somebody be like, "How did they hire that person?" Right? >> But the same phase I'm talking about that time they do, they can't they can't >> they can't act. But then the production people or um the the ladies, they're looking at making the money off of this. >> It might be a connect. It might >> connect everything, right? You run boss talk and and you you you your cousin know him and know her and that's your niece and she got to get on and you going to throw her in there whether she can act or not cuz it's family >> and also I'm paying her less. >> I'm paying her less so I'm saving money. >> Yeah. But they don't really be caring about a lot of times a lot of new actors don't really care about the paper. >> They just want the shot. Like they think this shot right here going to take make it bigger than life. >> This is my first time in front of the camera. I'mma care. I'mma take the shot cuz I want to be a star. That's just gonna that's just gonna fail you when you do that. You got to act like you top dog and ask for top dollar. So people respect you. Even if you don't get it, at least they know when you do get on, you always was top dog. So they'll pay you top dollar because you were was always about that. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I don't I don't do the little paper. You come see me, you got to give me 20. >> Yeah, I'll let you go. >> I like this question that I have right here cuz I know there's a lot of politics in any business that you go into, right? Be honest. Are the politics in the film industry worse than the politics in the street you grew up in or around? >> No, they're the same. >> No, I'm from [ __ ] I'm from Brooklyn, man. >> Which one's worse? >> They're the same. >> The same exact. >> The only The only difference is, see, in a drug game, in a street game, and any hustle you do, you can you can you can apply pressure. >> You know what I mean? That's a normal thing in the streets. You apply pressure and it's it's a normal thing. See, when you legit, you can't you can't apply pressure. >> Not in that way. Certain way. Yeah. But there ain't even no pressure cuz then you got to go to court. You got to get lawyers. You got to pay out. That's that ain't no pressure. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about real pressure like go against your head without breaking the money. You know what I'm saying? Suck your money. >> That's right. That's true. >> You can't add that pressure in the corporate world. You know what I'm saying? But it's still the same pressure that need to be added. >> You know what I'm saying? That's why I stay out the way cuz I don't want to be adding a lot of pressure. You know what I'm saying? They don't know how to deal with it. They call the police for the gravy yesterday. But I just I just stay Jamal, man. Stay cool. You >> That's real. I I get it cuz you trying to make sure to you know you know you don't want people to think you hard to work with. >> Yeah. Be professional, but you don't want nobody disrespect you neither. That's real. >> You know what I'm saying? So you got to you got to >> you hear about these parties and stuff and this guy say this other person groped them and all kind of stuff and they didn't do nothing about it. You >> need you need proof nowadays. You know some people just talking. >> I mean some of them are some of these women are just talking just to get some paper. A lot of women that want to get on and get some paper. Look at the Shannon Sharp joint. >> A that Gabby was wrong. >> But see she was way too young my [ __ ] >> I would I say the same thing. Then I said, "I plan to meet you, bro." You wait, you way too. Come on, big O. I couldn't do it. That's not cool. >> A lot of these men out there are just like that though, cuz I see a lot of these men who are old and they don't >> Shannon Sharp is >> Shannon. I'm 5. He He got to be about 56, 57. She at that time she was 19. Now she's 22 23. It's got to be a limit. I hear some of these I've heard in the past some of these people talking about oh yeah you can train them that's why they're not stuck in their ways and blah blah blah I'm 50 >> you don't look it >> I appreciate that's right you got >> but listen man you got to be >> ah the lowest I'mma go yeah man 32 >> 32 >> bro I just found maybe 28 Listen man I'm so old right >> I can't go to 1920 though >> listen gravy I I just found out they got a record button on here when you talk Oh [ __ ] like that. I'm not saying I can't turn it over and just see what I'm telling you. Your wife really loves you that much girlfriend send it down right here, baby. I'm going outside. >> That's it. So that's what I'm telling you, [ __ ] I'm >> Girl, I'm telling 20 million back to Jamaica. >> Back to Jamaica. And I just seen one of my partners go through that. I'm not going to go there, but this is exactly the way this thing can go down. I didn't know. The reason I said that was because you got to think about it. >> 19. You know about all the 20ardens, man. >> I got a daughter. I tell my wife full of time, man. That that that that that >> And some of them, a lot of them have kids those ages are older and they'll still go have kids with somebody way younger than their daughter. How many people out here? But a lot of people be doing it. >> That's disgusting. >> It is. I don't agree with it, but it it's a reality. I think that was somebody's daughter. It might have been Russell Simmons daughter. Why I seen with that old dude at the at the beach. It was like he was like he was like 80. She's like 20 23. >> It's the money. It's already the money that they go for. You know that's >> telling you I don't know what a buttons is and they going to get me. You know what I'm saying? Them young girls know them young. They going to tape me. They just recorded a dude. He was naked. I did one of them one of them young girls and got him. You know what I'm saying? We don't know man. I can't keep up with it. So, I I'm good. You know what I'm saying? >> Talking about women, um >> Oh, man. >> recently you were on a podcast recently >> that um you were talking about I'm going to call them eccentric women. That's what they call them here, women of other culture, black women of other countries, >> right? >> Compared to the American black woman, >> that there is a difference. And I know a lot of men who prefer to date women outside of America, but they'll still stick with black women, >> right? >> Because they say the culture is different. The way how they treat a man is different. They're more submissive. They're not so argumentative. They treat you like a king. >> Well, let's get to it. Let's get to it. >> So, but I heard you say some things about it. So, tell me. >> This is This is how the situation went. The situation was I was talking about my daughter, >> okay? And I was talking about the daddy word of how you know how the young girls be like that's big daddy or that's daddy with a Z and all that. I was telling my Yeah. Right. But I was telling my daughter >> that I don't want you to call another man daddy. >> Daddy. Right. >> I want you to know that biologically I'm your only father. >> So I'm the only man I want you to look up to. >> Right. >> Everything else I want you to make your way and pay your own way. I don't believe in that you make a man pay for your secret spot. Mhm. >> We all know what the secret spot is. >> I don't want you charging for that. >> I want you to be in love with somebody before you give them that. >> That's what I meant. They took it for a sound bite just to try to come off my brand and make me look like something else. Because woman, one one of the women was mad that I wasn't feeling the way she was coming with it. She was like, "Oh, no. American black is all American black. I know what American black is. My mama is American black. My daughter's American black. My grandmother's American. I love American black. I'm American black, >> right? So I don't have no problem with that. My problem was when did we stop calling the Puerto Ricans and Dominicans and them black. They we up. I'm from New York. We treat them like us. Them [ __ ] even say [ __ ] >> We don't look at them no type of way. So I felt like they was one of us. And then my gy, my triny, my Haitians, my Jamaicans, all those women I was dating, >> they're black as well. >> They're black. >> But in America, >> in America, so it's a problem. How is it a problem? >> Cuz a lot of people look at me and tell me I'm not black. They said, "I'm Jamaican." I said, "So what are Jamaican women? What color are they?" >> Right? I was just talking about how certain women want to be young women at that. Want to be about your money, your paper. They don't want to be with you because you gravy, because you this, cuz you that. Nah, they just think about the paper and the money. That's all my my example was to talk to cuz I be going out here doing aund movies and 100 shows. I talk to women every day like, "No, I didn't mean that. I didn't mean it like that." cuz you know they only whatever they see they listen to. >> You know what I'm saying? So they don't even know both sides, >> right? And then my one of my man's ex-wife get on there and talk some [ __ ] I ain't even saying her name make her because she ain't even popping like that. >> But um she need to be worried about her kids cuz she don't even take care of kids. My man take care of his kids. So that's a whole another issue. But the bottom is lot bottom line is I love my black women. Of course I wouldn't be [ __ ] without my black women. Of course. So, you know what I mean? All that other stuff, y'all just listen to one side. All I was saying was my daughter, I want her to grow up and be independent and be a strong woman. >> Right? >> That's it. All that paying a [ __ ] this, paying for that, you got to pay. And I watch Tik Tok and I watch Instagram now. A lot of brothers is starting to take a woman out. They take her to dinner. They get the bill. Then they say, "Okay, after this we're going home, right?" And she'll say, "Nah, I got to go take care of my kids or she got to do something." And a [ __ ] will be like, "Nope, two checks." >> I I've seen that. I've seen that. >> I'm like, "Yo, bro, that's cony. >> I'm all about investing in the women and paying for the woman. When you take time out, >> I feel like he should just pay for it and be done with it. >> Let me do that. Don't tell me what I need to be doing. >> Don't tell. >> Don't Don't even advise it. Just let me do what I'mma do cuz you'll be you'll be able to see a real man and how he move anyway. You got to tell me to open the door. I'mma open the door anyway. I'mma do my part anyway. just let me do my part. You so busy trying to groom your man, you're never going to find the right man grooming him. You can't make your husband be something that you want, you're making him be something that he don't want to be. >> And what I don't like about that clip is the fact that just because you took me out of dinner, why do you expect that I'm going to go home with you that night and give you some? >> I don't know. I don't know that >> cuz that's what that's that's what that clip entails. Like, oh, I'm not paying for this because you're not coming home. Well, I mean, it feels like society has it where I don't know, man. I don't even know how to answer cuz when you got money, you usually get it. Usually ain't going to go through the >> after the dinner, they they roll with you. They going, >> but some of we'll tell you not tonight or >> a never heard I ain't. >> So, you never heard a no. >> I never Well, I can't say that. I only heard nos when it's when it's was period time. >> Oh, okay. And if I if I did get a no, I'm cool with that, too, though. I'm not I'm not hard to beat up on that. I don't expect that. >> And it's not going to discourage you. >> No, it would discourage me if you do give me it the first night, I kind of put you on my my list cuz I usually got a list. >> Yeah. So, if you give it right to me on the first time, it's kind >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But you you kind of know. >> Not saying I ain't going to take it. >> Yeah. But you kind of know. You You can It's a energy. You feel the energy. >> Yeah. You just don't want to be like every You don't want to be loosey goosey out there. You know what I'm saying? I respect the ones like the woman I'm with now, my wife now. Uh, >> she took forever. >> And that's, you know what I mean? That's respect. You know what I mean? And that's how you got to be. You got to be respectful. >> But, you know, you knew you knew. >> You should know. You don't know everybody. If a person go out with people, what they wear, some people are great actors. >> Mhm. >> Memphis actors, right? Myth. >> Man, some great actors out here. You ever had a boy be your boy forever in your life? 20 years, 30 years, and then do you dirty at the end? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Didn't tell you I never liked your all this buildup he had that whole time. >> He been holding on to the moment he could put that least that dragon out there. Yeah. Yeah. >> So some people are great actors. >> Great actor. They'll play until they can get you. They'll play they'll play that role all the way until you get to that cast. Then they on your ass. >> Boy, that's crazy. But it's so true. So many people fake representatives represent all they lying through their teeth, lying everything, saying this, saying that, saying that. But then when the truth come out, it's like, oh, you know, >> but how can you tell though? How do you know? Cuz if there's such a great actor, how can you see the snake before it bites you? >> Well, a lot of times you just got to just continue being you. But you could get signs. We all get signs of a person. It's called I forgot what it's called. Uh it's in the Bible word. That's that's kind of sort of like that. But there's something else that that that triggers off in you that you know >> um you could it it's like we second guess it. We'll we'll see something say, "Oh, no. This [ __ ] ain't right." And then we just let it go. It'll come though. But we don't hold it. We just like, "Oh, maybe maybe I'm second guessing it." My intuition. >> Intuition. Okay. >> Maybe it's just, you know, but no, the intuition is right. >> Let her in your house, she from then you be like, I knew. Yeah. But the first time you knew she wasn't right. Why you even dealing with her? You know what I mean? Like we go through this every day. All this social media, see people taking people money, being dishonest, mess messing with your girl, [ __ ] this man's wife, that girl life, doing with this thing. It's just chaos. Boy, if somebody show you something, you better believe them. >> No. If you show me bad, I'm going to believe you. I'm talking about bad. I'm talking about bad. The scams will show you. No, I'm talking about I'm talking about far as bad. If somebody in their character show you, if they show you, hey, man, say man, if you see the sign you talking about earlier, if you see the sign, believe them. That's >> not even just that. If they're being that way with somebody else but not being that way with you, >> it's right there. Sometimes they can't. >> No, that mean they have that in them to be that way with you. >> Yeah, but they might not be that way with you because you're the one with the money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But as soon as you tell them no, then they gonna turn on you. >> See, they might play it all the way out. I'm telling you some good actor. That's good actor, right? >> Oh, you seen it all. >> I done been through it. Oh, man. I done been through the rigger, man. >> I done had some friends that I done pull up with cuz I had wine in New Dawn. Right. >> Mhm. So, um, I had pull up on my darn Rolls-Royce on them and I was like, "Damn, man. I I wanted they they they facial expression and the attention span to be like, damn. Oh [ __ ] we made it, man. Them [ __ ] is like, man, where you get that from? >> Why you got that car?" Damn. I I don't even like that car. >> You know they say You know another one they say, >> "Man, my homeboy got one better than that." When they say that, >> then they say [ __ ] like >> my homeboy got the same but he is the blue joint. The thing that made me crazy was when they said [ __ ] like, "Man, I was going to buy that." Or if I had the money to buy, I would. [ __ ] you ain't got the money. >> So what you talking about? You you can't even think about what I'm doing. >> You know what I'm saying? And then you don't even have a eight car lesser than one car. >> No, you dealing with three, four cars. You you dealing with nothing. And when you stop coming around because of that, they tell you, "Oh, he switched up because he he changed Hollywood or that." Yeah. They always hit you with that. They always hit me with >> I can't stand it. >> Yeah. Because you work too hard or you doing too much or you got something going on. >> Oh man. Or when somebody comes to the crib. Well, a lot of people don't come to the crib, but if somebody ever been in my crib, >> IT'S LIKE, OH MAN. Like when they get to the third floor, they like, yo, you got everything in except the elevator. Yeah. How many square feet is this? 10,000. Oh man, what what what how you why you get something so big like that? Why you want to walk up the steps like that? Ain't you a diabetic? Ain't you this? Ain't you all type of weird ass [ __ ] knowing that >> it's just life. You going to hear it. >> And the proper question should have asked is teach me the game. I want to know how to how to create wealth. >> That's a proper question. >> That's the proper question to ask at that time. But you can't make everybody be you. >> No, you can't. Everybody can tweak it and make it themselves. >> You can't make everybody be Michael. You can't b make everybody be Michael Jordan, LeBron. It's just got to be in you, man. As people get up there, they think that we the ones that's supposed to uh be great role models and we the ones that's supposed to make the youth. And man, the youth don't even listen. They don't even listen to you and you're the parent. >> I got parents that come up to me and tell me they rather hear from me than to hear from their own parents. >> Yeah. >> But that's reality. I But I USED TO >> BACKWARDS HIS HEAD. >> It is. But just like, okay, mom and dad, I used to always be mad at this. Why do kids >> be They listen to the dad quicker than they listen to the mom. >> Oh, I don't know about that. >> You understand what I mean? >> I can tell the mom. >> No, I can tell I can go tell my child, "Go clean up your room and walk out. Come back. You ain't cleaning up yet? Go clean." I have to say about five, 10 times. Daddy come in the room and say, "Go clean your room." By the time I turn around, >> they cleaning up the room. >> That's different. It's usually the mother that run the house. >> No. No. Cuz I don't. >> They listen to the dad. >> Is when you when you you count. >> Oh, you must be adding that pressure >> if it's necessary. Yeah. >> She make me out the bad guy. She makes me out. I'm going to tell your daddy. >> See, when you do that a lot, the kids, you putting fear in them. You instilling that. So, a lot of times she'd be like, "Go your daddy." Okay. Your And it makes you that guy. When I grew up, my daddy was was was the one you be scared to death of. But at the same time, my mom's too because my mom's going to light your ass up. >> Yeah. >> Put that pressure. >> Quick quick question. So it's like we wouldn't want to have problem with mommy before daddy. We already know what daddy going to do. But the feeling from the mother is different. >> It's very different. >> But listen to this, right? And this is where cuz I read this on Instagram the other day and he's talking about the same thing and it made so much sense. It says here, "A father once asked a psychologist, why is my child calm with me but always overwhelmed and screaming at her?" The mom, he said, he didn't expect this answer. He said, he said confidently, "With him, she behaves, she listens, eats, but with her mom it's non non-stop tears, tantrums. Maybe she just can't be can't set boundaries." The psychologist paused and gently asked, "Have you ever seen your child cry?" He replied, "No. Why should I?" A child doesn't hide emotions around the person who feels safe. Safe enough to show the messy parts. Safe enough to express from frustration, fear, exhaustion, safe enough to fall apart. Being good or quiet isn't always a sign of comfort. Sometimes it's a sign of caution. >> You get it? The man fell silent. He realized his child wasn't naturally calm. She had simply learned to stay in control so she wouldn't lose his approval. >> But with her mom, she doesn't need to perform because she knows her mom loves doesn't change because of her behavior. M see that's a great actor too. That little girl like, "Yeah, I'mma play this role." >> But most kids are like that around that. They're not that way. They're not showing their real selves like that. They're because they want that approval. And that made so much sense. >> Show her real self. >> All the time. >> All the time. But she might be a great actress, too, but it works for me, >> man. Daddies be blinded by them daughters. I ain't going to lie. For sure. Same brothers with sons. Man, my daughter my daughter is is she showed up the other week. I don't she just flew in. She's grown, of course. She's 20, but I never look at her that way. So, when she fly in from Rhode Island and then just see there, I'm like, >> "What are you doing?" I I'm like, "What's going on?" She looked just like her. I'm like, "Man, >> I don't like this. I don't know where you been. What's going on? And you've been at school, so you could be doing whatever." >> They got a cut off switch. >> Yeah. Yeah. The Wow. >> Yeah. They going to let you in on only so much. >> When they when they when they when they get older, they got that middle, you know, they get that 17, 18, 19, 20, they forget about daddy and all. >> Then they come back. >> Then they come back when the [ __ ] hurting them and all. >> That's right. That's right. Then I'm going, you know, I'll crash out. >> Yeah. Oh, for sure. >> So, I ain't trying to hear it. >> I got It says, okay, some actors say the industry loves Brooklyn culture, but not Brooklyn people. >> Have you ever felt that energy in Hollywood? >> Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. For sure. New York has its own stigma. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. Because I feel cuz New York, when I see New York people, I always say that they're so bold and outspoken and they very aggressive. >> And some people don't like that. >> We spoiled too though. We got all the good food, man. >> Yeah. >> We got all the best Jamaican food. >> We got the best Haitian food, the best Puerto Rican food, Dom. >> I don't care wherever you go. You can go to cats, get a pastrami, a corn beef on raw. I mean, you get you a good slice of pizza. Good. I mean, >> a piece of more elicit whatever beef patties. Chicago pizza. >> Chicago piece can't touch no damn, bro. Chicago make a better deep dish to me. But we not doing deep. I'm not doing I'm not doing that. But I don't care what Chicago that's. That's amazing though, man. >> The thin life. Chicago got some not slice. >> No, but they do got some good food. >> Oh, yeah. They got great food. >> They do got some good food. Yeah, they got great food. >> Yeah, they do. >> But they But still, man, that pizza is different up there. And and shout out my boy uh shoot me. I got a couple of partners up there that I really really like rock with uh June Bug and the dudes that I rock with up there. >> Man, shout out to Jeff, man. Yeah. Yeah. Hustle. >> Oh, man. Sh. My boy be with Slim Thug. I met him in Chicago, but he hang in Texas a lot. You know what I'm saying? It be like that, right? Speaking of Chicago, I was going to ask you about the barber shop. Are they going to ever do another one? Do you think? >> Well, I don't know. When I s the ice cube, I don't know, >> man. You did a great job in that movie. In the last interview, we didn't even talk about it at all. I was mad when I left you, man. I beat myself up, didn't I? I was like, man, we got plenty of movies that they need to see. Go check out right now on Ty Welcome to the A. >> So, you got my man shooter joints called Welcome to the A. It's a series. We getting ready to start shooting part two of that. Um, A Rock in a Hard Place. >> A Rock in a Hard Place. >> Yes. A Rock in a Hard Place. Hopefully it'll be out by Christmas. Um, Yep. Turned this [ __ ] coming out tomorrow for man Robinson. That's a big boy. >> Um, we got a bunch of stuff, man. Look out for the uh Rico Detroit. We shot that with my man Malik Davis. >> Rico Detroit. Yeah, that's a nice series. We're about to do Rico Atlanta. Hopefully we'll be doing Rico Miami, Rico LA. It's a great story line. It's It's definitely what's going on right now. >> You different. >> I love the way I love the way how versatile you are cuz in a lot of your movies, you don't just play a certain kind of character all the time. You I know sometimes when people look at you, you always have this hardcore kind. >> You know what it is? I don't know if I could play the good guy. >> I tried. I tried to. And half my fan base was loving it. Half of them didn't. So, I don't really know if they want me to shock. >> I like being the bad guy, though. >> But I was shocked in um the one that turned tomorrow that's coming out when I saw you actually like shed a tear. And to me, it it it gave off like a more >> family vibe, >> sensitive, right? That's why I was like that was different for me, but I loved it. I love that for you because it's showing a different side of you. I'm like, what did you have to First thing came to mind. What did you have to tap in to really get to that part? >> Well, the little boy was good. I forgot his name, man. He was a great He's a great actor, though. But um yeah, the little boy was good. He just brought it out of just brought it out of you. >> Yeah. A lot of times you don't even really got to act. You just get the right people that that that bring it out of you. The chemistry you and that person >> cuz people say they have to like tap and they think about their grandma passing away or something. >> You could you could pull out your trigger. Yeah, you could. But sometimes you just got a great crew and a great production and a great >> That's good. Cuz I saw that. I felt it. I felt it and I I could feel the sincerity that comes out of >> you. It was easy to to get into that character with that little boy. That's going to be great. And you'll hear a lot of views on that where people be like, "You need to play more of that kind of role." I bet you. >> Yeah. I play, you know, people want me to play a lot of roles, man. They want me to do the doctor, the lawyer, the cop. >> I'm definitely got a couple of cop movies coming. Um, they want me to do a couple of other things, but I do what I enjoy. >> I enjoy just being where I come from, >> and it's coming from Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying? Yo, big up to um yo, the new the new the new vibe is uh Tommy Lee and um >> yeah, we just interviewed Tommy Lee when we went down to Jamaica. >> The other dude, he's nice. Uh what's his name, man? Oh, he's dope as >> I love Tommy. Tommy's dope. >> I got him in my phone. I'm playing. >> Oh, um not Vibes. >> Yo, Vibes Cartel King. You didn't go to the some some festival. >> Uh uh what's the name? >> Oh. Oh, I know who you're talking about. >> Um massacre. >> Massacre. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Mhm. Mhm. >> Massacre's devious. >> Massacre. >> You love it. >> Yeah. Massacre and Tommy Lee. They both dope, man. I don't know which one better, but it's just like Mado and Cartel. You know what I'm saying? >> Mhm. >> But yo, yo, the gully side, man. Mr. My god. Listen man, that's my that's my thing. M vicious man. Tommy Lee vicious. >> Tom is Tommy. >> They vicious man. >> The performance at Sunfest was amazing. >> They vicious man. >> So I got to ask you that. Okay. in the black film industry. Is the black film industry evolving or are we recycling the same trauma driven story lines because that's what get funded. >> Um >> cuz it's the same things over and over again. >> Once again both sometimes it works that way to do the same films about traumas. We we all been through so much traumas in our life. So we all can relate to the traumas that sell great. Um then sometimes when you don't deliver the trauma the right way. >> Mhm. >> It's a bad flick. It's not good. So it's almost like watching the Spikely Joint. I love the Spikely Joint with Denzel. >> Yeah. >> I personally love it. >> Then I had some people saying it wasn't all that. You know, >> everybody's taste is different. Everybody's taste is different, right? Then you had um what's that movie? Sinners. >> Yes. >> Michael Beach. Yes. Yes. That was a crazy >> people were like uh >> I think people had to watch it over and over to get the real true meaning of that film. >> Trauma though and >> but it's a lot of spirituality to it, but they don't see it at first when you >> first watch tremendously. So it depends. It depends on who's shooting, who's delivering it. But everybody's perception is always different of everybody has an opinion. >> But that was trauma. But that was a trauma with a twist. It I like movies. At first I didn't like it. But then I I I loved it more. I watch it because to really see >> sometimes things grow on you. >> It grow on you. But the thing is that because they're hidden meanings a lot of times when you watch it and you don't get like when you read the Bible, you get something but if you read it again, you get something else. So you have to really watch it over. You got to Exactly. So for that, I like movies that keep me guessing. >> I hate it because they take me in such a whirlwind twist that I can't guess it. Cuz I'm one of these people that when I watch movies, I'm like, "Oh, I know what's going to happen. It's amazing." It's amazing. >> But when I do when they do surprise me, I hate that they surprise me, but I love it cuz I feel like they're good, >> right? >> You know what I mean? But I'm tired of seeing the same story lines over and over where it's such it's so predictable like, "Oh yeah, this going to happen, this trauma, and then why is always this? Why can't it be a twist to it? Why can't it be like this? You know what I mean? Why do you have to show black people always going through the same things over and over again? Why can't they get out of this situation? There's so many other situations. >> There's there's other situations you could put them in other things and be entertaining. >> It's a million things you could do. Many a million stories you can make up. You're right. >> When are you going to start writing those stories and making it different? >> I know about writing. >> Why? >> But I I I I know about funding. >> Oh, okay. you know, funding and shooting my own films and putting it on my own platform and doing stuff like that. I'm going to sit down with man Robinson. >> Okay. >> And talk to him about doing things like that. But, um, >> so that's coming soon. >> Yeah, that's that's immediately. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Because I just told you how, uh, Tubi ain't Tubby ain't it just, you know, it's getting tough on that. >> So, what do you want to see change in the film industry? What do you cuz you've been in there such a long time. I know in any thing that we do and especially if we're thinkers, observers, and I know you're observer. You're a thinker. I just wish we stood I just wish we could all stand up for for for for a change. You know what I'm saying? When you see something wrong, us as black people, just stand up for a change. >> That's all I wish we did. As one. >> As one. Exactly. >> This crew, that crew. No, just as one. The change can't happen without just becoming one. We make one standard, it'll happen. There's too many people in the front that don't want to be in the front too scared to be in the front. >> But that's the problem. But they feel like all the drama going to come to them and they going to be scared and they ain't going to make it. >> So I get out here and I yell, "Fuck Tubie. [ __ ] Ty, I don't want to [ __ ] with Tub." Then you look up for me. You trying to see me on Ty and I'm not dead. Then you're like, "Oh [ __ ] he jumped out the window." >> Right? So don't jump out the window. They gave us a free lane and get some money, get your money, respect Tubi, do your thing and keep it moving. >> Or too many people want too many people want to be in front. Too many people want to lead and like why you got to be the head of this? Why can't I? or why you can't think about you be the change. Sometime we can't all everybody be the change, but what if you can be the change? What if you could be the only one that gets out here and start your own thing and people flock to you because of your work and your craft and they make you >> they make you very successful with your films and then you can help others >> just like Tyler Perry helping others you know spreading the wealth and picking things up and putting people in position and same thing man. Would you ever work with him >> with Tyler Perry? Of course. He's a great >> And it's so funny because I love Tyler Perry movies. I sit down and watch all of his movies and I really love it. And we argue with men about Tyler Perry movies cuz they feel like Tyler Perry put males in a certain show males in a certain way that is not always the best. >> But I'm like they always show them as like a deadbeat dad or um a man who's cheating on his woman and doing his trauma issues, why >> him being so powerful always show men like that. But like I've always said, yes, they show that, but there is a overcome story. There's always >> it's always a message to it. So I don't feel like he does that. But a lot of men say that. Even what's the last movie with um Taraji that came out? A lot of men hated that. >> Which one? The one in the bank. >> Yes. But I loved it. >> I loved it. It was dope. >> But a lot of men hated that. >> Name of it. Um >> cuz they said, "Oh, there it goes again. Another one of Tyler Perry movies showing." >> It was good though. >> But I love she acted her >> that joint in the bank. She killed it. I would love to work with her one day. >> Yeah. I love Yeah, she dope. She dope. She dope. >> So you don't feel like he does that with >> I think that's a alpha situation. >> Okay. >> I think men are just want to see the alpha male and you know certain people want to pick pick their poison. They the way they pick their poison. >> Yeah. Cuz he he gets so many jobs. They're not looking at all the positive things that he does. He's an amazing writer, actor, everything. >> But I think everybody's time is um >> everybody who gets to that point of the billionaire status, their time is done because I never seen a billionaire go from billionaire to trillionaire yet. I see millionaires go to billionaires and then it stops. I don't see them going from millionaire to billionaire then to trillionaire. No, you're right. I see him get all the way up to the Billy and then it stop. I don't see him going from Billy to Trilly. Now, when that happens, then it's something else. But I haven't seen that yet. >> Wow, man. I think about >> Very comfortable. >> Very comfortable. That's hard to go. That's hard to do from a Billy to trillion. >> But then at that time, I think cuz you work so hard trying to build this organization. What end up usually suffering when somebody works that hard to get that far is usually families end up suffering. When I say family suffer, I'm not talking financially. I'm talking time >> and that's something you cannot >> No, you can't get it back. >> And you can't get it back. You understand what I mean? So, at that point, when you get to that point, you're like, man, let me enjoy my grandkids, my great grandkids. I can't do nothing with my kids that much no more because they don't either hate me because I wasn't there for them. You know, they love the financial gain. >> Sacri you sacrifice enough time to them up here. You see what I mean? back is very >> you especially when you get to be my age you looking at things like whoa >> like I ain't supposed to waste no time with you I won't even do certain interviews I'm like I don't even feel you like that bro I don't even feel you like that there you go and I value who I sit down with I'm not going to play with that time and I tell people that all the time too don't I be like I ain't wasting my time >> babe I got to ask you this cuz you know me I don't know a lot about what goes on and stuff like that or who's who and all of that >> okay let's talk about it >> why what is Is it? Why 50 go so hard in on Diddy? >> Why is he so trolling about him? What start is it? What What started it issue with it? >> Well, I can tell you. >> I don't know what started it. >> I think it's a I think they had early when 50 first came out. He was on everybody neck. He talked about the whole industry >> when he first came out. >> Yes. When he was the first and was it it was a it was one song. It was It was What was in that song? >> See, I can't tell. I love them both. I love the hell out of 52. But I'm saying it was it was one song that he just went on went through it on all of these rappers. I remember it and and that's just who he is. >> That's who he is. >> What was it? >> Rob. >> How to rob. That's it. That was it. So that that was and and I think that's just who 50 something else. He's a comedian. >> So did he didn't like that? >> No, I ain't saying Diddy didn't like it. I'm just saying it was a thing where everybody was he didn't he was taking no he wasn't playing no game and then a lot of times this this this this gatekeeper thing see you you might be trying to get through a door and you don't know if somebody really blocking that door but you like ah that door being blocked and that starts a lot of stuff too >> that's real tough. >> So it's like all of these things are happening so something directly might not even happen. It could be a thing where he knew him and he knew he could have got me through that door but he didn't do it >> but this and that goes both ways. What is this that thing we was talking about earlier >> that we going to mind our business? >> That's right. That's real. That's real. >> And you know what I'm thinking though? >> That's a lot of miscommunication because that's assumptions. That's not me picking up the phone or coming to a person and say, "Hey, bro, >> I need to get through this door and I know that you you really just talk to a person to find out." People get mad because man, I know he the one doing it, but you really don't know. >> But that that's politics. It's really politics. It is. It's the same thing that everybody goes through. >> But I'm saying everybody goes through politics when it comes down to all these situations. Whether it's in the streets, whether like you said earlier, or whether it's in movies, whether it's in business, politics always plays a part. So I just don't You're not just like, and shout out to New Dallas, and I said this on my show, it's some young dudes, head honcho, mirror, millionaire, all of them young boys, they say about them dudes, man. I love them dudes. I only got one thing to say, man. Them dudes didn't give out no turkeys for Thanksgiving, man. They did give out turkeys, didn't he? I think Rain made them give them out. I think they did. I heard one of them Dallas dudes on one of them podcast say, "Man, they ain't give out no turkeys." >> That man, they gave away something. Stop it, man. >> Okay, but I'm saying they they all for positivity. >> But I got told them that's not real life. >> Paul said in the Bible, every time I do good, evil was present. >> It's always there. So even if you plan yourself to think, oh, we're just not gonna do it the way this or that happened. >> It's always g, you got to be ready because the devil is standing right there and he's going to react and if he catch you slipping, he going to flip you. >> He going to try to >> he going to if he catch you slipping, he going to push you on down. So that's the part right there. >> Get back up. >> You get back up. But I'm just saying if you put that fake that false perception of everything's just great, >> you going to hit a bump in the road. Yeah. >> You're not going to be able to make a certain curve. You going to have a flat and you better be prepared to speak to that properly. That's all I say. You know what I'm saying? Because we all try to We want to see everything. Everybody want to do great. >> Absolutely. >> You wanted to do great from the jump. If you could have made to where there was no flaws or no mistakes or no bad situations, you'd have pushed them all to the side. Say, "Man, let's just do this great >> if you can control it." >> I mean, you can't you can't control anything. >> No, you can't. So, you just got to go with the grace of God and knowing that you going the right direction. That's all. Keep to yourself. >> How was it working with uh um you said it earlier, man. Forest Whitaker. >> Oh, that was amazing. Forest Whitaker and um Johnny Depp. >> Yeah, that's you spoke of that earlier. I'm like, man, that was amazing. And he from Texas, you know, he legend. >> Yeah, they were legends. Both of them. Yeah, for sure. >> Actors real like like >> What did you learn from them? I ain't really learned nothing from them because this there's uh Hollywood has uh when you on them type of sets they have um rules. You can't you can't talk to them. >> You can't certain rules that each each person has his own >> Yeah. You can't just run up on them and talk to them and do certain things with certain not force with it because Johnny Depp had that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't just run up on certain people and talk to them and stuff like that. You have to be quiet and the director's the only one that could talk to them. You can't really just get nothing >> cuz they're in a certain mode. Cuz I'd be thinking that, you know, you so >> allows it and come to you. I can understand. I can understand that. >> I respect >> everybody that does everything the way they want. If you come to set and you demanding a a thousand green M&M peanuts >> without the peanut in the middle, >> I'm still rocking with you. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what you been doing. how hard you made it to get to this point to want the way you want it. >> Because me, a lot of times I deserve a lot of [ __ ] and I don't ask for nothing. >> Why? >> I'm super humble. I just go and I go with the flow. But I deserve champagne, bubble baths, money, extra money. >> I deserve it all. I want everything. I want fivestar restaurant. But at the end of the day, I get I can get that myself. That's why I bring my own team. And then for the new year, for 2026, I said, I'm just going to put my rider in front of all my work. So this way, whoever books me, they know I got a rider that says $5,000 for anything that I'm doing before. That's not my performance fee. That's not my initial fee of being on your movie. That's just just to book me and my team. You got to have that 5,000 for that >> cuz I'm tired of playing. >> Not refundable. That's just >> Yeah. I'm just tired of playing with you dudes. Right. Like, you know, >> do you get a lot of people who don't want to pay you or >> Oh, I get a lot of that. Like, man, how much you want 20? Man, that's too much. All right, that's too much for you. That's not too much for whoever else got bread. You know what I'm saying? >> Or they hire you and then pay you some and don't pay you the rest. >> No, I always get all my bread. >> Okay. >> We don't have pressure. >> The pressure. >> Matter of fact, we getting ready to shoot. We getting ready to fly out and do Pressure right after Christmas, y'all. Pressure part two. Shout out to my man Nino Precious Part Two. We doing that with Noo-Noo from Detroit. What up though, man? Love, man. >> I I just, man, I always I I love your energy. I love the way you carry yourself, bro. A man's man. A dude that really deal with family, bro. >> Yeah. My mama, man. But I appreciate that. All that love, man. >> That's hard, bro. That's hard. Like, like the daughter, every time you talk about it, you can see your face light up. >> Oh, man. That's my number one, man. Like, a lot of people just want to know, well, why what what makes them tick? was that's that's my whole world because at the end of the day I'm really here just to give her away to the right man. >> Come on man. >> You going to walk her down the aisle and everything. That's all I want to do dreams. Of course. >> Yeah. >> It's so weird cuz when people look at you they look at you as this hardcore man. So it's like it's hard to say >> was hard but he still cried. >> That's right. >> What the difference is? I mean it ain't what's gangster right now man ain't picking up no gun and shooting another [ __ ] That's corny. It's corny as hell. >> What's gangster is taking care of your family. What's gangster is getting some money. gangsters sharing the wealth with your team that you grew up with. Maybe some of them [ __ ] can't be the star but still make them feel like it. Like everybody around me, I try to make sure they all feel equally yolked to me. >> That's amazing. >> How far was you from like Marcy Projects? >> I'm right down the block LG cuz we did be Haven and we went on we went on took us over project. Yeah, I went on and >> you can't keep going every day outside to the world and have money for everybody. >> And when it comes to that subject, family sometimes is the worst ones. >> You know what I'm saying? They'll be on your line. Yeah, I need this. I need that. I need that. So, >> us as celebrities or actors or whatever you want to call us, we work every day. We hear every day somebody needs something, >> right? >> Yeah. But what about when we need? >> That's real. That's real. >> You feel me? Like we can only do but so much. >> Mhm. >> If I go out here and feed everybody that needs, I'll be broke. >> That's true. >> That's right. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm broke rich. >> When the last time you >> Oh, man. I'm always in Brooklyn, man. >> When the last TIME GIVE IT UP. >> Last time. >> Uh, this time around, probably like four months ago. >> Really? What What What's changed? That's what I was about to ask. Oh, it's super. It's super different. It's gingriation. Gingriation. >> Do you like the new Brooklyn compared to the old Brooklyn? >> No, I love the old Brooklyn, but I love the new Brooklyn, too, because it added some flavor to it. We got some many nice new restaurants, pizza spots, oxtail spots, Jamaican spot. I mean, it's just it's just it's amazing. But we lost we lost kind of the the vibe and the culture. The way we used to, you know, have them block parties and turn up in the music. It's a lot of stipulations. Can you radio too like this? Can I mean it still ain't it, you know what I mean? You know, we love it. But only in certain parts, you know what I mean? The barlay is butter, everything is sweet, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I went. I went over there. >> Still amazing. I mean, it's still still New York City, man. Number one, man. >> I got to ask you something about Biggie. You've played Biggie as an icon from Brooklyn. Do you feel Hollywood exploits the legacy of fallen artists for money or does it keep their story alive in a respectful way? >> Well, I feel like for Big Impact, being that I was in both of their biopics, um that's another both question like, you know, I don't think people killed them to make more money. I don't look at it like that. But, you know, that is a part of >> because you hear those stories and stuff like that. >> Well, I don't think that was the the reason, you know, that happened like that, >> right? To exploit them. Yeah. No, I think them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them two dudes was so powerful that it just got out of hand >> you know what I'm saying cuz that's how great they were >> so you got it you you like both of them >> of course first of all Tupac's not from LA Tupac's from Baltimore >> that's right >> he's an east coast [ __ ] so I don't even know why they trying to claim that >> yeah he is >> cuz he repped it so hard when we went over there >> he's still a east coast >> and he actor so he went over there and was like I'm with LA I'm west co west west side till we down They accepted him and that's cool cuz I got all my LA homies over there. Ter and all Bar, all my LA homies. I love him too. But you know what I'm saying? Tupac was an East Coast dude. >> Wow. >> If Biggy were alive today, do you think he'd respect how the entertainment industry represents his legacy or would would he call it out? Call him out. >> Well, I don't know. And I wouldn't be able to answer that cuz I wouldn't have been on your plane to to talk to you right now. So, I don't know. Hopefully if he was alive, I'll still be listening to him and we probably be cutting some records. >> What's your favorite big What's your favorite Biggie track? >> Uh favorite biggie record. There's so many. I couldn't even answer that, man. >> Man, let me see. I for me, >> I'll just say Warner was the best one for me. That was just my thing at that time. >> Yeah, but I like I I liked uh when he got with uh >> was it No, it wasn't Shaq. was >> n >> Jay-Z >> Brooklyn fintorious thugs. >> Yeah, that's that whole hard. >> Oh, he was always hard. He was dangerous. >> He never had no bang with us. >> No, he ain't never had no whack verse ever. >> Not to me anyway. >> Did you see uh I'm from Texas, so did you see Scarface Tiny Disc when he did the the uh the live performance? >> The tiny that was >> man hard boy. >> Yeah, Scarface. hard. I you know that's I just said because >> I could imagine Biggie and Pac doing a a tiny dance. It'd be crazy. You know what I'm saying? >> Absolutely. >> And Biggie was crazy on that mic. He all on the streets of Brooklyn. You see you >> never know. You might still see it the way AI is. You see how they be putting AI Biggie in looking so real. >> This is my last question, man. What do you think AI is going to do when it comes down to the It's already movie industry. I don't know, man. It's weird, but it's going to be >> It's weird, but I don't know. You got to start learning. I'm trying to learn. >> Me, too. You acting like me. That's what I'm doing. >> Be down with the time. >> It's going to replace a lot of actors cuz people are not going to want to deal with like the personalities and stuff like that can create a person. >> I don't think you can replace the actor. >> You don't think so? >> No. The physical being of somebody in front of a lens. No, I don't think you could do that because it'll look too fake. >> The way how they creating them now, they look so real. We see things on social media right now. We're like, is that even real? We don't know. It looks so real where you're like >> it just don't feel the texture don't feel right. It don't feel right. >> Didn't Didn't I think Timberland got his first AI artist or something like that or something? >> I heard about something like Yeah. So, it's it's definitely going to change things. It's going to change things. Some nice music that they come up with that you just to >> Did you hear the old stuff that they make the the new stuff old? >> Yeah. And it's dope. That's the scary part. >> Oh, it sound good. I'll be like, man, they'll send it to me like listening to this. time like they switch that over. >> Mhm. >> So, it's something we got to be careful. It's scary as hell, but I'm pushing that button to learn. I am. >> Yeah, you got to. >> I'm I'm Okay, let me left behind. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I want to be >> How long was you one of them that got on Facebook and Instagram earlier? Did you like I ain't messing with that right now? >> No, I mess with everything. >> As soon as it came out, >> as soon as soon as we lost my space, I was popping with something else. >> That's all. Thank you so much, man. So, how can people get a hold of you if they trying to reach out, man? Man, you know my Instagram Jamal Gravy Willard. My Facebook is Jamal Gravy Willlet. Everything is Jamal Gravy Willard. And don't be believing the hype. You heard? Well, I'm fly I got to fly on the set with you one day. You got to tell me where. Invite me and the wife to come on the set so I can come and talk to you and just explore that part and put it on my show. >> Well, top of the year I'm in Houston, man. >> I'm coming. >> You got to give me the date when y'all going to be acting it out. >> We out there from the 3rd to the From the 3rd to the 7th. >> 3rd to the 7th. Put that on the calendar. Okay. Cuz you know we >> I want to be on the set to you, right? >> Oh yeah. I'm pulling up. It's 3 hours. But I'm coming. >> I'm I'm going when I get back. I got shout out my boy Alisa and all of I'm going to see be popping. >> It be popping. The restaurant is crazy. The >> truth. Yeah. Cuz um cuz when we were in Dallas, that was our first time on a movie set. Um a friend of ours, he he writes and produces movies. And just to see all of the workess and the process. >> Oh yeah. It's a lot. Just one scene. You filming that one scene over and over from different angles just to to get it. It's a lot of work all day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But you but but the more you do it, the more you master it. You told me >> if you love if you love what you do, you going to be great at it. >> That's right. And you can the process becomes something you want to do seamlessly. >> It's amazing though. It's amazing. The only type of film that I would love to see and I don't know how they create it is when they have to use like the green screens or animation like Avatar and all of that. I would love to be on the set to watch something like that. I feel like it'll be amazing. >> Absolutely, >> man. Thank you so much, man. We love you, big dog. Yo, we going to love you. You coming to Dallas to my store? I've been there for 20 years. >> You come to Dallas to your store. >> You come over there, too. Oh, man. We going My my queen oxtails for sure. >> That's my favorite. So, it's going down. >> Spicy. >> Do you like spicy? >> Not too spicy. >> The dog tail fall off the bone. It's going down. down. It's going down, >> man. Thank you so much. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the bosses talk. >> And we out. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. It's a unique hustle, [ __ ]