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The hosts of DTNS Office Hours begin their Thursday live stream by jokingly addressing the unusual schedule, attributing it to a mysterious agreement with "Thursday" and technical glitches involving Patreon's delayed feed. They quickly pivot to a much more serious and embarrassing topic: Sarah's dog, Rex, escaping through an open back door at midnight and wandering for six hours before returning home. The incident was caused by Rex eating something from a garbage can or scavenging off the street, which led to severe gastrointestinal issues and a dramatic mess on the living room rug. Despite the chaos, including a sleepless night and significant cleanup efforts, Rex eventually returned safely, though Sarah spent the day furious at him before realizing that dogs often do not understand the specific reasons for their owner's anger but simply sense the mood shift. Following the ordeal, the conversation shifts to practical solutions for preventing future escapes. Sarah explains that while she previously used a Fi tracking collar, she discontinued the subscription because her dog is not an outdoor runner and the monthly cost wasn't justified. However, after this incident, she decided to purchase an Apple AirTag holder from Chewy to attach to Rex's collar, ensuring she can locate him if he runs off again. The hosts also discuss the reality of dealing with a missing pet in the middle of the night, noting that police and animal control typically do not respond to such calls at 3:00 or 4:00 AM. They emphasize the importance of using enzyme-based cleaners like Nature's Miracle to remove both stains and odors, as dogs have keen senses and will return to areas where they previously had accidents if the scent remains. The episode concludes with a segment on upcoming content and audience engagement, specifically focusing on a "Tournament of Techports" to determine the best technology category for future voting. After a poll revealed that flash memory storage has surpassed hard disk drives in popularity among their viewers, the hosts brainstorm ideas for new tournament categories, settling on "Best Smart Home Appliance." They discuss various smart devices they own, including LG appliances that struggle with connectivity issues and Sonos speakers that frequently go offline but eventually reboot. The hosts also touch upon other potential categories like environmental sensors, door locks, robot vacuums, and smart garage openers, inviting viewers to submit their own ideas via email before wrapping up the show and teasing a return tomorrow with guest Molly Wood.
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Thursday. Going live on Thursday. What's that about? >> Is that even a loud tongue? >> How does it work? >> Pretty pretty sure I saw that in the in the the statement of understanding that we weren't supposed to be going live on Thursdays. What is this? >> Yeah. >> What is a Thursday? >> Did we Did Thursday sign up sign us up for this? I think Thursday signed us up for this. >> I uh I'm trying to make us live on Patreon, which means I'm hearing everything you say twice. That's why I was like a deer in the headlights there for a second. Hi. >> What were we saying about Thursday? >> Uh Thursday signed us up to go live. That's what it did. >> Yeah. Okay, good. That's why that's why we're live >> now. See, I know there's an ongoing bit of me complaining about the Patreon live streaming every time we go live. Uh today it was mostly fine. It's just as soon as it gets the feed, it starts playing it, but it's on like a half second delay until it realizes that it's playing and then it mutes itself. But there's that, you saw how long it was where I was just like >> anyway, uh we were talking about something much less pleasant. Sarah's dog. >> What was Oh, >> took a big old >> Well, >> present. He gave me a present. I did not want >> present. >> So, uh, very short story. In fact, on this week's Have Such a Good Day, I will talk about this in great detail. Um, but the very short version is >> this is a good tease. Yeah. >> Yeah. My dog got out at about midnight a couple nights ago. Did not, you know, I mean, I trust me, I looked for him. Um, six hours later after I had sort of given up and just left the back door open, >> six hours is just Yeah. >> Yes. And trust me, Sarah did not sleep during this time, but I was sort of like, I'm better off at home >> if he comes back than, you know, wandering around somewhere else. >> He's going to be like, where'd she go? I better go back out and find her. >> Yeah, exactly. So, he came back. Um, all was well, but um, he, let's just say, seemed to be having some gastro issues. >> Yeah, because he probably ate some >> he ate something out of a garbage can. Yep. >> You know, or who knows? Who knows what he did? No one knows. Um, and >> only he knows. >> He's just like, I'll just do it. Um, cuz he'll eat anything if you give it to him. So, I'm sorry, Rex. I know this is embarrassing for you, but you know, you got to learn your lesson somehow. And uh public shaming is is what we're doing with that. >> Name and shame. >> But uh yeah, >> it's harsh but effective. >> Uh a couple hours later after I had I had laid down for a little while because I was like, well, you know, it's been a sleepless night for me and I have to do some work today. Um I woke up and I had a very large and very strange presence >> on my living room rug. And you can only imagine where that came from. Mhm. >> And I have to assume that Rex just had like a very spicy Mexican party, >> you know, because just just kind of given the stuff that he would have access to, you know, here and there on the street. >> Um it was very dramatic >> and I will spare you the details. Uh, but uh, your girl here had to do quite a bit of cleanup and I still think that I need to hire like a an actual professional carpet cleaner. Um, we we made some progress yesterday. We made some progress and everything seems to be fine now. You know, we're we're back at it. But, uh, I was and I had to stop being mad. I was mad at him all day yesterday. I would barely even look at him. And you could tell that he was just like, "I'm sorry." >> He's like, "I I don't know. I did terrible things to you. >> They don't even know why you're they just know you're mad at that point cuz >> he knew why I was mad. He did. >> He knew why. >> I've been told that dogs they they don't associate why you're mad with what they did very well. They know you're mad and so they're like, "Yeah, >> when I point at the, you know, volcano of death and I say, "Why did you do this?" And he's like, "Oh dear." He knows. He knows what he did. It wasn't me, it was him. Um but but yeah, this morning I had to just let it go that it wasn't you. >> This morning I you know he was he was very excited to um you know have his morning walk and everything seems to be fine now. Uh the the damage was done. Um and >> Howard says that it is a gift to provide candid feedback and Rex will should appreciate that. So there >> Yeah. Yeah, my little Mensah dog out here. You know, he's he's really on top of everything, you know. He's not The guy's It's like it also that whole thing was It's not like he's trying to escape. >> He never takes off like that. >> No, he doesn't. Um, in fact, he's very clingy. >> Did you hear like something in the distance or anything that might have caught his attention? I didn't. But later on when I was like cuz he went out the back steps. It's kind of hard to explain but you know we just don't have a fenced driveway you know so he ran out the driveway and you know by the time I ran out after him once I put my shoes on he was gone. >> Yeah. >> So I don't know if he was chasing something. He doesn't really have that much of a prey drive. >> He's not really like he doesn't even chase cats or squirrels or anything. >> Yeah. Uh, but you know, I think he was like, I want to eat some garbage >> because he knows from walking around that there's like a fair amount of just like chicken bones that people leave on the ground. Just >> Yeah. Which is dangerous. >> Totally. Yeah. Or just, you know, like a Taco Bell bag that might just be good to lick. Mhm. >> Anyway, um this morning I decided, okay, I can't just keep being mad at you because you ruined, you know, basically my day. And sort of still today, I'm not totally back on I I need a little bit more sleep, I think, before I feel like a human again, just because it was just so uh dramatic. But uh but yeah, I mean the you can you can only imagine the things that happen uh in worst case scenarios, you know, where a dog goes missing, crosses a street. >> Yeah. >> You know, you know, is is somebody swipes them? Like, who even knows? And none of that happens. So, uh congratulations, Rex. You had a fun six-hour solo journey and you'll never do it again. >> And now he's paying for it. >> That's right. Yep. Was it worth it? Let me >> He's like kind of mad at me. >> Don't answer that. It wasn't. >> So, yeah, it was uh it was one of those. >> Oh, I'm so sorry. That's the worst. >> It is. I know. To the point where I'm like, should I do like a makeshift fence? But then it would be like an HOA. We're We're just going to We're just going to be a lot um more stringent about coming and going leashed up. >> Yep. >> Because beforehand, you know, I'd be like, "Oh, we're almost home." Like, "I'll take him off the leash." And he, you know, sort of runs runs around for a minute cuz he knows >> comes right back in. Yeah. >> Yeah. And that just that didn't happen the other night. And I, you know, can't go through that again. You not only lost the sleep, you you you spent more energy stressing than even if you had just stayed up on an average night, you you you wouldn't be stressing. You wouldn't be spending all that energy worrying. So, it's like double whammy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And it was it was actually funny when he So, I left my back door to wide open. I wasn't asleep because, you know, I couldn't, but I was kind of laying down just because I was just like, "You got to chill a little bit, Sarah." You know, um, instead of pacing around in circles. And when he ran up the back stairs, you know, that doesn't sound totally different than a human doing that, right? And I was paranoid, you know. It's like, not that I I mean, my neighbors for the most part are pretty chill people, but it's like if somebody sees a wide open back door and wants to run in my house, that's not good. >> No. >> You know, and so so I hear like steps, you know, so I kind of sit up and it's him, you know, and he comes in, you know, comes in and looks at me and and sort of does this like >> are you mad? >> Yeah. cuz the heat, you know, like like and I didn't want him to run out again, >> run away, right? >> Yeah. So, I was like, "No, no, no. Come in. Come in." I quickly go, you know, shut the door, lock it, >> and then it was like, "Go to your place." >> It's like It's like that parent who's so worried and then they're mad. >> Yeah. Yeah. Totally. >> It's like I was so worried and now I'm Now you're grounded. >> Do you know how worried I was? >> Yeah. You have no idea what I went through. Uh, well, maybe this will cheer you up. Come uh wrote in and said, "Thank you for the tote bag." Uh, he got one of the uh Patreon merch rewards that automatically go. I was watching DTNS had the video paused when the tote bag delivery arrived and it gave me a chuckle to see Sarah on the tote bag with the same facial expression as in the video. And he said he sent this picture. There you are. Len perfectly captured you and now you're doing now. There's three. There's three of you doing it. >> Yep. It's one I can do well. >> What I can do well. It's sort of like >> It is funny that the pause happened exactly at that moment. Yeah. That's great. >> Well, thank you, K, for sending along uh the picture. I like getting pictures like that. It's good. Good stuff. >> Yeah, we do. And and you know, everybody likes a good tote. >> Oh, the other thing with the not to go back to the Rex thing again, but I'm gonna >> That's one of those uh I don't mean to be rude, but then you say something rude. Uh >> no offense, but >> but uh but >> I don't like you. >> You you told me you you have now because because you had tried the tracking collar and it wasn't really working, so you weren't using it. In this case, it would have been handy, but you know, hindsight's always 2020. Uh, have you taken any technological preventative measures for the future? >> Indeed, I have. Um, yeah, I'm glad you asked this uh because uh we didn't really talk technical stuff on on the latest episode of Have Such a Good Day, which is episode 350. It'll be out in a couple days, but um you >> get the full Rex story. >> Yeah, you you you definitely get like the playbyplay uh if you indeed want that. But uh but yeah, so the FI caller, which I reviewed on a previous episode of Live with It because I got it for free for 6 months through a partnership between Fi and my vet, Modern Animal, which is now owned by Chewy, so everybody's consolidating. >> Your vet is owned by Chewy. Interesting. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh they were acquired a couple months ago, and I don't really think that'll change anything. And also, I'm I'm a big fan of Chewy. So, >> yeah, Chewy is not bad. I order from them a lot. >> Yeah. Um, great customer service. But anyway, the F caller was sort of like, hey, want to try it out? 6 months of a free subscription and, you know, and we'll give you the the tag, you know, that goes on the collar for free. And I was like, yeah, I love free things. But, but after that 6 months was over, I didn't feel like it made enough sense for us because again, my dog doesn't go running out >> um for me to pay a subscription. And I don't remember offhand, but it was something like 20 bucks a month, which >> listen, if if if that makes sense to you, totally get it. They also have a smaller one for cats as well if you're interested in, you know, where they are and where they're going. But I'm like, my dog is not really an outdoor dog. He's outdoors with me. Um, and that just it just didn't make sense for me to keep to keep paying for it. Now, last night I would have killed for that thing. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to get an Air Tag from Apple um from Chewy. Uh so, Chewy.com, they have little Air Tag um >> you know, >> like holders. >> Yeah. For for like a collar that's the size of the collar that Rex wears. Um, and that's what he's going to be rocking from here on out because the only thing that I couldn't do. Well, I mean, there were a lot of things I couldn't do the other night, but I was like, if I could track him, I mean, I could get in my car and I don't know. I mean, maybe he'd keep running, but at least I would know where he was. I mean, I have no idea where that dog was the other night. Um, and that was the nice thing about the FIller is I would have had his map and even if the map was confusing, I would have known how many steps he took and just a lot of information about, you know, 6 hours of me flipping out, calling the police. By the way, the police were like, "Uh, we can't like find your dog for you." But I tried. I did. Um because you know you just sometimes you get desperate and uh yeah they were like no and animal control isn't going to like come out at 4 in the morning either. We're just not going to do that. >> So there's no one who will try to find a dog in the middle of the night. >> Not really. Um you know I I posted on Next Door and Citizen. You know, I texted all the neighbors I had who I have contact information for where I'm like, "This is going to sound crazy. It's 3:30." But, you know, here we are. >> But, uh, turns out homeboy just came strolling. >> I'm back. Thank goodness. >> Hi. Are you mad? Okay, you are mad. I'm going to poop on your mad. Anyway, I had this great Mexican food. I'll tell you all about this. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like, ooh, ouch. You know, not sure it's sitting well with me. Yeah. >> So, let's just wait till mom takes a nap and then we'll >> and then I won't have time to wake her up cuz it's going to hit me like a ton of bricks. >> Always an adventure. We've all been there, Rex. Sort of. >> We have. We have. Uh, >> not necessarily that adventure, but you're like >> exactly the same. I may have gone a little too hard and uh yeah, not feeling great now >> and you know uh been unable to uh make it where you need to go. >> Well, well, and you know, here I am sleeping at a funny time because I hadn't slept all night, >> you know. So, he's just sort of like, well, guess I got to do my thing. >> Yeah. And she's she's not waking up for love or money. >> Yeah. I'm like, my old dog Otis would like lick my face if he wanted to go outside, you know? You you couldn't miss it. He was good about that. Rex is just sort of like, >> well, don't disturb mother. >> Let's just do this. She won't be mad, right? And then, you know, you know how that goes. Yeah. Later. >> Thank God for nature's miracle. I'll tell you that. >> Oh, it is a miracle. It really is. >> It is. for anybody who doesn't. It's like a It's like an enzyme spray that's really good for accidents. >> It takes away not only the bad dirt stuff, but also the smell, which is important with pets who have a very good sense of smell, so they don't go like, "Oh, it smells like it's okay to go here." >> And you don't want that. which is something that you think like I mean if you've got like formula 409 or you know something like that it's like isn't that you know it's basically bleach related you know wouldn't wouldn't that take away stuff but everybody who is either you know a veterinarian or you know in the business of dog training or just anything they say no no no you need it doesn't have to be Nature's Miracle that's that's just one brand but something that's enzyme based because that actually kills the smell so that they don't go back to that place later and say, "Well, I peed here before." >> Yeah. Cuz the bleach will will get rid of the living things. It'll, you know, and it'll get rid of stains, >> but it won't necessarily get rid of of every aroma. And and dogs and cats are little sniffing machines like >> they are. It's true. It's true. And poor Rexy, I mean, he's he's when I first got him, which is gosh, we're going up on a year now, which is crazy. Um, it feels like he's still so new in this house, but >> yeah, >> time flies. >> But, you know, he had some accidents in the early days. Oh, sure. And, you know, you know, it was >> mildly annoying, but I chocked it up to like he doesn't know me >> and you know, he doesn't know where he is. And there have been a couple setbacks, you know, over the last year. >> That's pretty normal, too, >> especially with adopted dogs, >> right? And and you know, I also I have to be very very rigid about taking him outside because we don't have a yard. >> Well, we don't have a safe fenced in yard obviously. >> Yeah. >> Um so, you know, that and depending on my day, sometimes I'm like, "All right, you know, we're going out early and then you got to chill and then I'll take you out later." But you got to chill during the day. And he it took him a while, I think, to get used to that. Um but but yeah, it's it's just one of those things. It's one of those things. He's he's my little kid who had an accident. >> Yeah, exactly. They're permanently three years old. >> Mhm. >> That's what they say. >> Yeah. Although seven >> is seven three years old, right? >> He's two years old dog, you know, which is uh but they say they're permanently like a three-year-old human. >> Um I feel like sometimes seven is more like a six-month-old. Not not in this way that we're talking about now, but just like this morning out of nowhere, I went to put his collar on and he's like, "I'm going to play I'm going to play with my mouth. They're going to bite you while you try to put the collar. Not that he really is trying to bite me, you know, but I'm like, you haven't done this since you were like tiny. What What has gotten into you? >> Yeah. Like, what's your deal, man? >> Rex is the same thing. We call it T-Rex mornings >> where he's just like, I just want to nibble on your hands. Now, I wouldn't want him to do that with like a strange child, >> of course, >> but it's like he doesn't bite me. He's not biting. He's just like He's just like, I'm just being crazy. But it's it's very like it's >> it's childish. >> It's childish behavior. And I don't mean that in a bad way. It's just like you're just being a little kid. >> Yeah. >> You know, and he's he's only three himself. And I don't know, for anybody who has never dealt with a boxer, they're kind of clowns anyway. So like three-year-old is basically sixmon. Seven has a tiny bit of boxer in him, but he's got enough other stuff in him that uh makes him silly that I can't tell if the boxer is is part of it or not. Yeah, >> he's he's mostly he's 30% husky. He's like 25% Shepherd, then he's like 18% pitbull and less than 10% boxer and then a bunch of other things that it couldn't detect. >> Yeah. I mean, he looks I mean, he's very husky. >> He's got the husky tail. >> Shepherdesque. Yeah. >> Yeah. But then he's got the shepherd legs and the shepherdy ears. >> Yeah, >> I guess those are husky ears, too. But >> I mean, Otis, my previous dog, um, R O P R I P rather, not R O O P. Um, he he >> was boxer, great Pyrenees. And then he had a little uh American Stafy >> and a little little tiny bit of Doberman, >> which was always funny because he's like he was the opposite of what a Doberman looks like or you know I mean just I don't know what that was >> but um but he was he was very just sort of people were always like what kind of dog is that? >> Not not in a bad way like people looked at him put their finger on it. He was good. But you know when I would tell them I I would say boxer great pier and they go that is one heck of a you know interesting look. >> But Rex is purebred boxer. Now I got him from a rescue. >> Yeah >> cuz I don't I don't do uh breeder stuff but you know he was already in a rescue and that's what he is according to his DNA. Um, and so it's just like, all right, you have the characteristics of this dog. You are not a mixture of other dogs. >> Yeah. I mean, and not that every boxer is exactly like every other boxer, but you do have a a more more of a range of behavioral characteristics that he's going to fit into. >> We went to the dog park the other day, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, and there was a another boxer there. Um, you know, kind of same coloring, beefier, but you know, and and we made a beline and Rex was like, "Yeah, play with me. It's like looking in a mirror." And the other dog, whose name was Coconut, >> Coconut was just like, >> "Oh, really?" >> Cuz Coconut was like >> seven years old, and he was just like, "I'm at the dog park to chill and like sniff the fresh air and >> just sort of observe. I don't come here to play with you, young bucks. >> Yeah, Rex would not leave him alone, you know, and it was fine. I mean, it wasn't like it wasn't contentious, but it was cute where I was like, you know what? Not everybody wants to play with you. And he's like, but he's my brother. He's my brother. >> He ain't heavy. >> You could tell that he was like, "No, he looks like me, though. This is my dog." So, yeah, Coconut was a good sport. >> That's good. At least at least it was a good sport. Hey, >> hey, I'm back. Uh, waiting on uploads. Uh, Rue just turned one on Friday. >> Happy birthday, Rue. >> And she just started her first heat on Friday. >> Oh, is she a track runner? >> Not fun. >> Yeah. So, >> yeah. >> I've never had a female dog before. This has been an experience. >> Now, are you do you have to get through that a couple of times before >> for large breed dogs? It's recommended twice for the cancer and the hips and all that stuff. We're just we're just going to do once. We're I'm not doing this again. >> Yeah. >> Give her the full one one full cycle and then it's it's done cuz this is this is stupid. >> This is why you have boy dogs. >> I Well, yeah. Or you know, you got to wait it out. We were um >> I I am lucky in that she's wearing the diapers well. Like she's not fighting me over the diapers and things like that. So she's she's kind of resigned. She's like puts her head down and just kind of stands there and lets me put it on. >> She gets really excited when I go to take it off cuz it means we're going outside. But yeah, it's been >> I un unless you're just begging for punishment. This is not recommended. >> I remember being at on like a a trail. This is with Otis, my my my former dog. And um it was we did it often enough that he knew our route and he was okay off leash. other people. You weren't really supposed to do that, but he was always fine off leash and other people had their dogs off leash and you know, they would just sort of run around, but he was essentially on the trail with me. And we came across a Doberman actually, like beautiful dog and like a family and um you know, so it's like mom, dad, little kids. And we're like, "Oh, hi. My dog's friendly." And they're like, "My dog is too." And so, you know, Otis is is very excited about this dog. And finally, you know, he's kind of like, I'm really excited, you know, in that way. And uh they're like, oh no, she's in heat. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. And I'm like, well, he's fixed. Yeah. So, I mean, we're not making puppies here today. But also, why are you here? >> Why did you not say that earlier? >> Yeah. Like, why are you here? It it didn't make a lot of sense to me, but at the same time, nothing bad happened. >> Yeah, >> that's good. >> He was just like, "Wow, you're very pretty." >> Uh, well, we have been uh in the finals of the tech tournament uh since last week, I guess, right? Is it time to declare a winner? Oh, between flash memory and hard disk drive. And >> I mean, sure. >> Do you have a prediction? >> Yep. Um, >> I'm going to go with a sentimental choice knowing knowing the audience we have. >> You think hard disk pulled pulled ahead? >> Yeah. There's there's something about getting 24 terabytes on a platter. You know what I mean? Like there's just Yeah, maybe that's what Rex 8 24 terabytes on a platter. >> My god. >> Uh, what about you, Sarah? Flash memory or hard disk drive? Which one do you think pulls ahead? >> Hard disc drive? >> Yeah, you're both hard dis drive. Okay. Well, >> nothing against you. Flash memory. >> Yeah. No, no, I prefer flash memory now. It's just overall >> I'm going I'm going with the the old sturdy. >> The old sturdy. You think the audience is like, "No, no, no. The old the old ways are best." >> Sadly, no. 56% voted for flash memory. >> Oh, man. Wow. >> The greatest storage format of all time is flash memory. >> I'm going to have >> Congratulations. >> Disagree. >> I mean, you can disagree all you want, but scoreboard. >> Congratulations, Flash Memory. >> Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. You're the winner. >> Look under your chair for the for the car. >> A new car. So, now we got to figure out a new tournament idea. What's our What's our next >> How about we have Sarah here? Maybe she's got a good tournament idea. >> You got any tournament ideas? >> Well, uh I mean, so it's it's you know what's the best thing of this category? >> That's usually what we've done. Uh it does >> What have we done? What have we done in the past? >> Yeah. Let me uh let me get back to the let me get back to that list and we can we can look at the previous tournaments. >> And Tom, after one day of good upload speeds to Substack and Patreon, we have returned back to the slow pace. >> I'm sorry to hear that. All right, Tournament of Techports, Tournament of Pies, Legends of Everything, Best Sci-Fi Tech, and Favorite Tech Store. And I have to say, as much as I enjoyed The Tournament of Pies, the ports and the storage have been the most popular of the ones we've done. >> People do like to vote on something like you can wrap your hands around, I guess you could wrap your hand around a pie, but technology that you can I mean, not for long now if it's in front of me, but yeah. So, ports and storage have been very good. Sci-fi tech was all right, but >> it was fun. Didn't didn't get a turnout we were hoping for. >> Legends of Everything was just too silly. Pies was just some people were like, "Yeah, I don't care." >> I mean, what about what about something like best smart home appliance? Oo, that's good. >> That is good. >> Yeah, >> because that you know that could be anything, right? >> Yeah. >> Vacuum, refrigerator, smart bulbs. >> Yeah. Yeah. What's What's the >> smart TV? >> What's the best thing? >> Basically, what what do you want to be smart in your home? Like, is it light bulbs? Is that it? Is that the only smart thing? Is it plugs? Or is it a refrigerator? Is it a Do you want your dishwasher to be smart? >> Yeah, >> I like that. That's good. >> My new uh dishwasher, which we will be reviewing on an upcoming episode of Live with It. Um >> All right. How's that going? >> It's It's It hasn't been taken out of its packaging yet. Uh because yesterday was a doozy, but um but it will be today. Um >> it's not it's not a smart dishwasher. Um, but it is so that wouldn't actually be part of this category, but but you know, my June oven, my you know, Echo Show, that's that that's that definitely applies. Um, anything that connects to the internet really is is fair game. I have we re a few years ago, I guess it's been like five, six, eight years now. We replaced all the all four appliances in the kitchen, the refrigerator, the the microwave, the stove, and the dishwasher. We got them all to match. They're all smart in one way or the other. They all connect through the LG app. Um, except for the dishwasher. We could never I can never get it to connect. And the the thing it wants me to do is to go in the back and unplug it and plug it back in. Do you know how hard it is to pull a dishwasher out? >> Yeah, that doesn't sound fun. That's a thing you never want to do. >> I've tried doing the circuit breaker and that doesn't work. So, it wants me to actually go in in the back and pull it out and then hit like a reset button or something on the back of the dish dishwasher. I'm like, that's not that that's just never going to get connected. >> Yeah. I tried to uh hook up my LG um laundry machine to the Wi-Fi and it just wouldn't do it. It was one of those old style where like, "Okay, switch your phone to connect to the LG Wi-Fi and then tell that what your Wi-Fi is." And it just wouldn't it wouldn't do it. So, I gave up. I was like, "Forget it. I don't need my laundry. >> I don't need a notification that my dryer is done. It's fine. I can I can live in the past." Tom, you don't have you don't live in a house with five people. It's important to get a notification right now. >> I know it's important. I'm just resigned to the fact that I'm like, well, it's just not going to connect. Forget it. >> I mean, mine just does like a >> Mine does. >> Yeah, I think maybe mine is a little bit more singong, but I remember I had a friend over one night and he was like, "What is that?" And I'm like, "Oh, my dryer is done." >> Yeah. >> Is it that weird? He's like, I didn't know what it was. >> It sounded really weird. Smart speakers. Um, also, you know, that's >> that's a category. I am currently I have two Sonos ones that are, you know, they're they're getting a little long in the tooth at this point. And they both had to be redone. when I updated my Wi-Fi, it was it's very long story, but uh the one I have one in um my living room and one in my bedroom and you know, for the most part, and I've got I've got Ziggy here, which is my Echo um >> studio. Um, but uh the one in my bedroom just keeps going offline. >> And then when I hard reset it, it's like, "Yep, I'm back." >> And then it just and then I'm fine for a few months. And the thing is is the bedroom speaker is great in the morning where you're kind of like, "Okay, I'm waking up, but like >> I'm just going to lay here for a minute. you know, hey, you know who, you know, play me my news brief, you know, just to sort of like know what's going on in the world. That's that's kind of what I use use it for. I don't really use it for anything else, but just sort of warning stuff and alarms also. And it just keeps dying, but then it keeps coming back to life. So, I'm like, you're not actually dead. You're mostly dead. >> You're only mostly dead, >> but you're not dead dead. So, I'm g I'm gonna keep reviving you until you're actually dead, >> which is to bluff. >> Yeah. Right. >> Uh, okay. Smart home appliance is a good one. Uh, we have a dock of other ideas that I I I've forgotten that Thor and Ryan suggested communication methods as a tournament like telegraph, ham radio, >> and string, >> telephone. Best worst product names was submitted by Mad Marv. >> I think you just go with worst. >> Yeah, he he was basically like you could do best or worst. You you wouldn't do them both in the same >> like what what's the worst product name? >> Uh messaging is a good one from Thor uh which is based on an idea from Tom Gian Vtorio uh Captain Jack. Um and then uh Howard just suggested epic fail product launches as well. So, we got some good ones in here. Uh, I like the smart home appliances one, too. That's a really good one. We've got a nice little list going. That's the the the best thing about smart home appliances and messaging is we have a nice list of good candidates for the tournament. So, that that gives them a leg up. But yeah, we'll uh I don't know. We'll decide by next week. So, if anybody wants to weigh in on these, uh if you got some smart home appliance ideas for the tournament, let me know. We've got one, two, three, four, five, seven. So far, we're almost halfway there to the 16. Dishwasher, light bulb, electric plug, refrigerator, oven, laundry, smart speakers. What am I? There's got to be some obvious ones we're missing here. Smart speakers. Oh, um, door lock. Door lock. Automatic lock. Oh, yeah. Mhm. >> Smart plugs, doorbell, security camera, or just camera. >> I'm just trying to think of all the little things. >> Oh, well, you got you got uh environmental sensors like CO2 sensors and and fire alarms, water sensors, freeze warning sensors, >> water uh >> Yeah. Are those one? >> I mean, they all come in different variations of different packaging. Therefore, but um or thereof. Yeah, thereof. But >> actually, I I would put environmental sensors as like a category though. Like that's >> But I think um like a uh a smart um smoke alarm is is a separate one, don't you think? >> Uh well, yeah, usually I see that with smoke alarm and CO2. Yeah, smoke alarm CO2 are in California anyway required to be the same thing. >> One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. That's 12. >> Yeah. Can we squeeze four more out? >> I don't know. Air purifier. >> I do have I do have a smart air >> and I have a smart garage door opener. >> Well, there you go. >> I'm that guy. Robot vacuum. That's a good one. G. James B. >> I do not have a smart one of those. >> Sarah does. >> Dumb. >> Um, mine is it's it's jugging along. It's it's been >> robo rock and rolling. >> It's robo rock and rolling. Yeah. I mean, it it gets caught in weird corners sometimes where I'm like, "Dude, why?" You know, >> what is your problem? >> Yeah. Like can I like it's all I can do not to just be like kick it out of the way cuz it's like don't be rude. Don't be rude. >> Put it in a other place but then it'll just go back to the corner. I'm like what is wrong with you? Why aren't you learning? You should >> you didn't clean that corner with enzyme. >> Yeah. >> It keeps going back to it. >> Yeah. The robo rock is like drawn to it. >> Um Tommy, do you have a AV device like a a Hue sync? So like something Phil Phillips Hue lights >> well it it syncs between the lights and in your environment so it can like set up different things but yeah >> I mean that that one won't get it out of the first round but we need 16. So >> well I I was hoping that me saying that would spark something better but >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I have a smart network that ties into my smart home. >> Sure. Got to have some boundaries, right? >> All All the lights turn turn red if the internet goes out. >> Yeah, that's the that's the sync thing. Okay, that that that's good. All right, uh send us some more ideas. Feedback at dailytechneow.com. Uh thank you all for hanging out with us. We had a lovely time with you as well. We'll be back with DTNS Live tomorrow at 2 PM Eastern. Molly Wood will be joining us. to talk about whether you need that new device or not. >> No, >> the answer is yes. >> Oh, see, we already have a question. >> See you later, everybody. Bye >> bye.