This ONE Item Hints At Something HUGE For WoW Forever

Okay, so so you guys you guys told me about this last night. This item dropped as on the this is on a sub Reddit. Cold Flame Saber seven intellect 2.0 speed sword with 32 plus damage. Equip melee attacks deal 98 fire damage additional fire damage against frozen targets. So that means if somebody has like a if somebody is is like frost nova'd or they have a frostbite proc, right? Or they're stuck in a root, right? That feels like an insane amount of damage. Like the first off the scaling is is ridiculous. But I guess this exists. I mean this is a major it's definitely like a mage sword. Against frozen targets is it designed for mages is meant for mages. But I guess people are saying like there's like a battle mage like maybe this is like for like a battle mage play style who knows. I mean obviously that's what it is. It's obviously like for like a battle mage type of play style but it's for level 21. Now is this something that they're intending to do long term? Maybe they just like threw it in the game in the in the early levels just to see like how people play out with it. I think it's a really really intriguing. Why would mage melee? I mean there's the the fantasy of like a spell sword battle mage type of thing. I mean that's that's like a thing. I think the numbers are insanely high like stupidly high. But the concept of it I think is pretty cool. So this kind of goes back to like the the class design discussion that I've talked about in the past where I think when you're making classic plus, right? In Wild Forever which is classic plus, you need to maintain as many of the original play styles as you can or as much of the original play styles as you can as an option. You need to promote the underserved under developed play styles like let's say a prop paladin a shockadin, right? Maybe like an elemental mage or something like that, right? You change up the talents and you add some stuff in the talents to be able to support more of this stuff which is great, right? You want to flesh those things out really support the classes that people want to play or the specs that people want to play within their classes, right? You play the class not the spec. The last thing is kind of like how those other specs exist where you have like the shockadin or you know you have these different builds that people kind of come up with and they're like, hey, you know, maybe this is like an intriguing sort of off meta build that you can do for fun and kind of see what happens. I think you should help to enable some of those other things to be found, enable some of those other things to be figured out. So, this is in a different way than what I was imagining. I think this kind of does that. But uh I guess there's a video of it that we can react to. Here it is, okay. >> Day three of the WoW forever beta. And while leveling up my mage's comprehension skill, which allows us to decipher these mysterious scrolls, I received a message from a good friend of mine, shineslights. The previous day >> Scroll of the saber, use it on a blade of silver lane to create a powerful weapon. >> He had discovered something absolutely insane. While deciphering scrolls as a mage, he found a rare item called scroll of the saber and the >> So, oh, this is coming from all these these decipher things that you can do. Okay. >> Tooltip said, "Use on blade of silver lane to create a powerful weapon." And immediately, we had the same question. "Where in the world have we heard that name before?" I'm sure some of you know exactly where we went looking. Shadowfang Keep. For anyone who played classic WoW, the name silver lane should sound very familiar. The most desirable pieces of early >> This is a this is a big ring. Uh I mean, people even use this to twink at level 29. >> game gear in classic. So, when we saw blade of silver lane mentioned in this mysterious scroll, we had a pretty obvious place to start. The tooltip didn't tell us where the sword was. It only said, "Use on blade of silver lane to create a powerful weapon." That's it. So, we decided to assume the most obvious possibility. Maybe the sword was somewhere inside Shadowfang Keep. And if it was, we were going to find it. We put together a group of level 20 players and headed into >> Okay. Um >> After clearing the entire dungeon, nothing. No hidden weapon, no clickable object, no obvious quest, nothing. At this point, we started wondering if we had completely misunderstood the tooltip. Maybe the >> Well, I mean, did it just not drop? I mean, cuz it could have just not dropped. Maybe it has to drop on a boss, right? >> Blade of Silverlane wasn't actually inside Shadowfang Keep. Maybe it was somewhere in the open world. Maybe it was part of a quest we hadn't discovered yet. >> Did he only clear it once? Did he only clear it once? Like, you got to farm it. >> Or maybe we were just wasting our time. But there was one thing we hadn't tried, Baron Silverlane's loot table. So, in the name of science, I convinced my guild to run Shadowfang Keep again. >> Okay. Like, obviously. Okay, to be to be very This is obviously what you should have done. I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. But this is so funny. Cuz that was like the obvious like, the obvious thing to do. >> And again, and again. >> Yeah, like, clear the dungeon over and over and over. >> hoping that somehow this mysterious weapon was sitting on Silverlane's loot table. >> I'm sorry. Okay. >> After the fifth attempt, we decided to take a break. And during that break, >> I mean, it's pretty easy cuz this guy's right at the beginning. So, you just you just It's like It's like you're doing BRD arena runs. >> I figured, why not keep deciphering scrolls? Maybe I could get my own scroll of the saber and continue investigating. So, for team morale, reason to have to actually obtain could help me out. And then, I found the answer. Shineslights had done it. He had become the first person we knew of to actually obtain the weapon, Blade of Silverlane. Our theory was correct. The weapon really did drop >> Yeah, so, you know what's funny about this Blade of Silverlane, by the way? Um, I did Oh, look, it's Captain obvious. I'm not Like it's just fun It's just funny. I think he's I mean, he's trying to He's trying to like step-by-step lay it out, right? For somebody that He's trying to step-by-step lay it out for somebody who has no idea what's going on. But, it's just funny if you're like If you play the game regularly, I don't know. Is he stretching out the YouTube video? Maybe. Maybe a little bit of stretching out the YouTube video. Says the guy who always has freaking 30-minute YouTube videos, but I I feel like that's that's not a I mean, that's just how it That's just how it is, you know? That's just how it is. I don't know. Maybe they're retail players, right? Maybe they're retail players. You know, maybe they're like, "Man, I got to go I got to go back, man. I got to go back. It's taking too long. They're not used to the They're not used to be in Forging the Fires." Like us, man. I don't know. So, here's here's what's funny about this. Let me show you. Yeah, dude, the SGC grind I Dude, do you remember how many hours I spent on that in Classic Launch? Here's what's particularly funny about this, the Blade of this whole thing. So, I have one of these Blade of Silverlanes. I have I have the Blade of Silverlane. But, I feel like he could have just asked, "Has anybody seen Blade of Silverlane drop?" Cuz there's a bunch of people that ran as SFK. It this dropped for me on my first SFK. So, I have this. You know? It's crazy, right? Oh, I got one as well. Yeah, I mean, he should I feel like he should just ask. Like, "Hey, has anybody seen this Blade of Silverlane drop in SFK?" Anyway, continue. >> up off of Baron Silverlane. And that meant there was only one weapon really did drop off of Baron Silverlane. And that meant there was only one thing left to do, get back into Shadowfang Keep. I immediately got back into the game, rounded up the group, and we headed back into Shadowfang Keep. Reset. Kill Silverlane. Reset. >> eventually get it. >> So it drops, it was loud earlier. >> Morthus There it was, the weapon we'd been looking for. And honestly, that was already an incredible discovery. But then we use the scroll of the saber and combined it with Blade of Silver Lane and there it was. And this brand new weapon was called Cold >> I think this is this is overtuned to hell. I this night cuz if you think about it you can't use it now, I'll be able to use it later. >> Flame saber and its effect reads equip. But then you start asking the important questions. How do we freeze the target? Frostbite >> Yeah, so it's like any anytime you have like a frostbite, frost nova, there's there's like a ton of freezes. But at this level you pretty much just have Do you even have frostbite at this level? How did they change the talent trees? I mean I think it's interesting. Like who knows? Like in in practice it might not really be that good. You end up having like frost nova, frostbite proc, anything that makes it basically look like they're they're root. Might be fun in duels, yeah. I'm skeptical. I mean it could be really good. Yeah, it's a melee attack. So it's like a spell blade type thing or like a battle mage type thing. I mean it seems pretty cool. I just I worry if it's like too much damage. But damage, like those numbers and stuff can be tuned. And that's the thing and this isn't like classic wow. People are used to classic wow coming out and everything is a is a certain way and it has to be that way. Numbers and stuff can be changed, but like design decisions and concepts and stuff like that, that's harder to get Blizzard to the budge on. But I do think this is a cool concept. I really do. I think this is a cool concept. There's not a whole lot of ways to freeze the target. There's always a chance that that the freeze breaks on damage, just naturally. You have frost nova, you have a frostbite proc. I don't know if Fingers of Frost will affect the weapon because Fingers of Frost is meant to like if you're doing like a shatter combo or something with your shatter combo increases like the crit and all that. Like it makes your crits way more effective. How the shatter works, shatter increases crit damage whenever you have a frozen target. So, Fingers of Frost is hey, like just put whatever your next frost spell that hits them or your next spell cast that hits them, just treat it as if the target is frozen even if they're not, right? So, the idea is like you get these big shatters. But, I don't know if Fingers of Frost will work that way because I don't think a weapon proc will count as a cast spell by the player. And if it does, then that would probably change other things, too. I I don't really know. So, if you get a Fingers of Frost proc and that happens. But, I I do think it's really interesting to try this kind of stuff. And I think it's really cool that people find this kind of stuff out. You know what I mean? I don't think it would work. Yeah, I'm I'm not really sure. So, I guess the tooltip was changing with spell power. >> 98 fire damage against frozen targets. Potentially scaling with spell power. >> Well, he can't he can't even test it yet cuz it's level 21. So, we'll find out in like a week, right? Week and a half. >> But, we're not done. Because do you remember those scrolls we've been deciphering? The ones that allow you to imbue weapons with different effects? We remembered one in particular. Scroll of Imbue Ice Knife. The scroll allows you to imbue a dagger with an effect that gives your attacks a chance to freeze the target when you hit them. >> Oh, that's interesting. Imbue a dagger with magic for 1 hour causing it to occasionally freeze foes on hit. But, this is not a dagger. This is a sword. But, this this would be really cool. But, it's not a dagger. >> That's when the pieces really start coming together. We remembered something else. Windfury weapon. And suddenly, this wasn't just an interesting mage weapon anymore. This started sounding like some >> Yeah. Oh, when you we So, we won't be able to even test this in the beta. >> thing completely different. >> I thought when I thought Windfury Totem was level 32 30, but I guess it's 32. >> attack speed. We have an effect that can deal 98 additional fire damage against frozen >> Well, here's what he should have done. Did he Did he test the imbued ice knife on a sword? Cuz he could grab any sword and test it. Did he do that? >> something else >> Or is it daggers only? Cuz it says that only dagger I tried >> We have a low-level weapon with a 2-second attack speed. We have an effect that can deal 98 additional fire damage against frozen targets. We have potential spell power scaling. We have fingers of frost, which can allow us to treat targets as frozen. We have shatter, which dramatically increases our spell critical chance against frozen targets. We have weapon imbuing scrolls. >> Shatter got a big nerf, by the way. >> We have windfury weapon, and we potentially have ways of freezing targets through weapon attacks. So, what does this start to sound like? A traditional frost mage? Not exactly. It starts sounding an awful lot like a battle mage. And this is where things get really interesting because we've seen hints that Wild Forever may have something completely new waiting for us. And so far, mage hasn't suddenly received some completely new identity through its existing talent trees. >> I do think it's cool to have stuff like this. >> Or the developers behind Wild Forever are keeping mages' traditional classic identity intact while introducing a brand new way to play the class. What if battle mage isn't just a fun idea? What if this is the beginning of a completely new mage play style? >> It could be. I think I think that'd be cool. >> Not just >> Coping AI preaching. He does kind of sound He does kind of sound like an AI. >> just as a gimmick, but as an actual build. Maybe you equip a one-handed sword. >> No, like his his pacing of his speech >> Maybe you use imbued ice knife to give your attacks a chance to freeze your target. >> You think this is an AI script? >> with coldflame saber to deal massive additional damage against frozen enemies. And suddenly, your mage isn't standing 30 yards away casting frost bolt anymore. You're running directly into melee, and that's only one possibility. >> I don't know. You guys really think it's an AI script? >> Cuz we've already seen other weapon and viewing scrolls. For example, scroll of imbued spark. The tool tip says, "Imbue a sword with magic for 1 hour and causes your flame blast cool down to reset when you're struck by a melee attack." Now, what exactly is flame blast? We know what fire blast is. So, maybe it's simply a different name or a typo, or maybe it's an ability we haven't seen yet. Maybe it's something completely new. We don't know. But the fact that these scrolls are specifically modifying weapons and giving them effects >> Yeah, I I definitely I definitely do think like like a battle mage is definitely like going to be a thing. Like they're trying to they're definitely trying to like give you some things you could do. Even if you come in and boom. >> situation. A frost weapon that freezes enemies. A fire weapon that applies some kind of stacking burn >> Dude, I hate that you guys said this cuz now I I can't stop thinking about it. >> A different weapon that interacts with defensive abilities. Maybe you dual wield. Maybe you use a sword and a dagger. Maybe different imbues create completely different play styles. And suddenly, you aren't just playing a mage. You're building your own version of a battle mage. Now, I want to be very clear. We don't know that battle mage is actually coming to Wild Forever. This is a theory. Everything we've discovered so far could ultimately lead some >> Maybe it Maybe it is an AI script. I don't really know what AI scripts are read like cuz it's hard. >> or completely different. But that's what makes this beta so exciting. We're only 3 days in and we're already discovering weapons, scrolls, >> I do I do think this is pretty freaking sick. >> and your actions that raise questions that we would have never thought to ask in a wild classic. And if this is only what we've discovered the first clue towards an entirely new Maybe the Cold Flame Saber is simply a cool low-level weapon. Awesome. Or maybe we're looking at the first clue towards an entirely new way to play Mage. >> I think what it is is they they throw it in there as like a hey, what what if we just did this with Mages and just see how it works, right? It's like hey, maybe we can expand on this. No, I don't think he's AI. Shadow was saying the script is an AI script. Once it got in my head and I started listening for it and like I don't know. I I I just don't know. >> And honestly, I can't wait to find out. What do you guys think? Do you think Battle Mage could actually become a as many of these discoveries as possible while the >> I don't know, man. You got to say. No, I mean look, the thing is like you got to you got to you got to do your thing, dude. I don't think this guy has used AI before. You got to do your thing, right? Yeah. Uh you got like You think the entire thing is AI? Yeah, I I mean I I don't know. I don't know. Like like none of that like none of that stuff I don't even care about the AI stuff, right? It's just funny. It's just funny. I I think the idea is cool. I think the idea of having like a Battle Mage or something is cool. It it totally falls in line with exactly what I was talking about with the the class design stuff, right? Where it's like hey, like let's find ways and it's it's done in a way that I wouldn't even think about. It's a cool thing. It's a cool thing. It's a cool discovery to be able to have stuff that Mages can do or let's say any class, right? Any class can go out there and find a way to expand on their class design and have items out in the world that just change their characters. It unlocks a different play style for your character. And I do think that's really cool. I I do think that is a a very very cool thing to do and an interesting way that I personally had not really I mean there are certain items that like unlock your class even in Burning Crusade or Vanilla, but this is in a very different and on a much more larger scale than what we've been used to seeing in Vanilla and in Burning Crusade. I know they kind of did some stuff like this in SOD and I've I've had my gripes with SOD, but not everything SOD did was bad. I think I think SOD was a really really important period of time in the game Season of Discovery because it allowed them to just like throw everything at the wall. You know, they they just throw everything at the wall, see what works, see what doesn't work and while I think a lot of the systems in Season of Discovery were not good not not all of them, but a lot of them I don't think were very good. I think a lot of the gameplay like it felt good to press your buttons. So like the net result but like the systems there was a lot of band-aid fixes and just kind of like jerry-rigging stuff to make it work, but I do think they did a good job with what they had to work with. Anyways, thank you guys so much for watching. YouTube, Instagram, Discord, Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, Kick, Rumble, Twitter X, did I say everything? Instagram, Discord, Reddit, TikTok, Facebook, everything everything is asvan TV. So follow me everywhere, sub to everything, don't follow me in real life, follow me everywhere else but not in real life and I will see you guys next time. I think that I think Blizzard is cooking up some fun stuff here so it's it's interesting to follow along with and I think it's cool that people are kind of figuring stuff out and sharing it with everybody. Thanks for watching. I'll see you guys next time.