"This Is A Society Problem" Trump Assassination Attempt | Tom Bilyeu Reaction
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Tom Bilyeu opens his reaction to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump by framing it within a broader cultural context, noting that this is the first incident of its kind since Ronald Reagan in 1981. He argues that politics operates downstream from culture and emphasizes that narratives have tangible consequences; specifically, he warns against using "ratchet up" language like comparing Trump to Hitler or calling for his elimination without considering second- and third-order effects. Bilyeu suggests that when political discourse shifts from debating ideas to framing issues as existential threats, the logical response is often escalation. He posits that Donald Trump serves merely as an embodiment of deep-seated feelings held by half the country regarding their future prospects, rather than being the sole creator of these sentiments. Consequently, he urges listeners not to view him solely through a political lens but to recognize him as a representative voice for widespread emotions about government and economic stagnation. The discussion delves into how different narratives shape reality after such an event, with Bilyeu highlighting that people will inevitably interpret the same facts differently based on their pre-existing beliefs. He points out media examples where headlines like "Trump falls hard" downplay a shooting incident to fit a specific narrative of resilience or incompetence, illustrating how framing dictates perception. While acknowledging Tucker Carlson's prediction that assassination was the only remaining option after failed attempts at censorship and impeachment, Bilyeu expresses concern over this trajectory leading toward what he calls a "national divorce." He contrasts his own initial worldview—which predicted civil war stemming from financial collapse—with the reality of narrative-driven violence, concluding that focusing on divisive rhetoric rather than unity accelerates societal fracture. Bilyeu also addresses the specific comments made by Destiny (Omniliberal) regarding having zero sympathy for Trump or his supporters following an insurrection attempt and granting immunity to a former president who incited one. Bilyeu clarifies that while he agrees with the moral stance against sympathizing with those involved in violence, he interprets Destiny's argument as being rooted in the belief that Trump attempted to make himself king. However, Bilyeu warns that even if such an attempt succeeds or fails, it creates a power vacuum and ignites feelings of disenfranchisement among supporters who view their leader as unjustly persecuted. He draws parallels to the aftermath of George Floyd's death and the assassinations in the mid-1960s following JFK's murder, suggesting that society often enters periods where people feel they can no longer play by normal rules because the narrative has shifted from debate to survival. Ultimately, Bilyeu concludes with a call for individuals to consciously choose which narratives to amplify, de-amplify, or ignore, referencing Victor Frankl's idea of finding meaning between stimulus and response. He advocates for adopting a unifying approach similar to Nelson Mandela's philosophy in *Long Walk to Freedom*, where violence is reserved only as a last resort due to its horrific consequences. The speaker emphasizes that social media rewards impulsive behavior and divisive rhetoric, but humans have the agency to propagate messages of unity instead. By focusing on shared goals rather than erasing opposing viewpoints or engaging in name-calling, society can avoid the chaotic outcomes predicted by current narratives. He ends with a plea for empathy toward all sides involved, urging everyone to look beyond immediate political battles and consider how their actions ripple through culture and potentially lead to either national healing or further division.
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We just saw the first assassination
attempt on a former president. This is
the first time this has happened since
1981 when sitting president Ronald
Reagan had an assassination attempt on
his life. Uh this is what happens when
you have narratives. Narratives have
consequences. And that's the part that
I'm really worried is going to get lost
in all of this that people are going to
forget that the way that we choose to
verbalize the things that are happening
or the way that we connect the dots of
the things that are happening are going
to make their way out into culture. And
the phrase that you've heard a lot that
you're certainly going to hear me say a
lot because it organizes my thinking,
politics is downstream of culture. There
is a thing happening in culture. There
is a wave that is propagating through
the people that make up this country and
understanding how the narratives that
all of us are putting out into the world
will ripple through the humans
makes it understandable that the way
that something is framed has a massive
impact on the actions that are taken.
And so, what we're seeing now, whether
you love Trump or you hate Trump, we see
uh the somewhat natural conclusion of
saying, "We have a guy that is literally
Hitler.
Um we have to stop him no matter what it
takes." You hear people using words like
he has to be eliminated. And I have no
doubt if you play that full clip in its
context, I'm sure he says as a candidate
or whatever. But when you use this kind
of ratchet it up language, you are going
to get these knock-on effects. And this
is where I think people are not being
honest about what's happening right now,
which is the and third-order
consequences. So, the second- and
third-order of the way that Trump talks
is very problematic in terms of it
engenders a response from his audience.
It engenders a response from the left.
The second- and third-order consequences
of the way that the left is framing uh
Trump as literally being like Hitler. Um
all of these things end up creating a
framing for what's going on not as
something that is political, but
something that is existential.
And when you make this debate about
being existential, now all of a sudden
the not only the natural response, the
logical response is to escalate to this
level. It is a logical response. In
fact, if you actually were able to be a
precog like in the movie
um, Minority Report. If you were able to
do that and you knew beyond a shadow of
a doubt that he really was going to
cause the kind of loss of life that
Hitler caused, you would have a moral
obligation, at least with my value set,
to take him out.
But what's getting lost is nobody's a
precog. Nobody can see. We don't know
what was going to happen. And so to take
this from the realm of there are ideas
and these ideas need to be debated
because Trump is a representation of of
the way that half of the country feels.
And the fact that people are losing
sight that Trump is not the one creating
all of this. Trump is simply giving form
in language, in embodiment to a feeling
that people have. You can think of the
populace in many ways as the
subconscious of the nation. Now, the
subconscious of the nation ultimately
needs to bring its emotive feelings into
the conscious mind. And the way that you
do that is with a leader that can
articulate the things you were feeling,
which is why you see people saying,
"Yes, exactly. He's saying exactly what
I've been feeling." You get that on the
right, you get that on the left, you get
that everywhere. Whenever you have this
large collection of people, they are
going to be feeling a thing, it is going
to be somewhat ineffable until a good,
usually very profound order comes along
and they actually put words to what
you're saying.
Now,
the words that get put to what's
happening are going to matter a lot
because they have huge implications in
terms of the way that the second and
third order consequences are going to
play out. And so, when you look at this
and realize that we actually had
somebody running for president have an
attempted assassination on his life,
the evidence speaks for itself in terms
of what the outcome of that would be.
And when you can look back and look at
the Yes, if I believe that I can see the
future with 100% clarity and he is going
to do things like Hitler.
Uh and you get everybody saying this
person is Hitlerian and absolutely must
be stopped. Um when you get people using
the the um
Wall Street Journal had on their cover
yesterday, the day of the attempt,
"Biden trains fire on Trump."
And then literally that day there is uh
an assassination attempt. Okay, all I
want people to understand at this point
because I'm not here to chastise people.
I just want people to understand that
narratives have consequences. Not
calling for censorship. People should be
able to say what they think. And people
should be able to make the point if they
believe that this is exactly what you
have to do with Trump, then I want them
to say that. Now, if they're calling for
violence, if they're trying to incite
violence, if they are trying to convince
people to actually go out and do this,
that we have to stop. But like even
looking at some of the things that
Destiny, the Omniliberal, is saying,
"Yo, I think that it it is an absolutely
um
horrific argument to put forward that uh
I don't In fact, I don't want to
misquote him if we can pull it up."
While he pulls it up in fact, because
this is about empathy, the one thing I
don't want getting lost in all of this
is that
there was somebody killed at the rally,
that there was another person that is at
least at last check was in critical
condition.
The consequences are very real.
These are real people. They have
families,
people that they love, and when all of
this gets swept up in a narrative of
politics, of uh hey, my side is right,
and no matter what happens, we have to
make this happen. Um we have to get our
opponents out, and we have to get the
person that we want in, no matter what.
Uh
people become tools, they become pawns,
and we lose sight of the humanity of all
of this.
So,
the only thing any of us can do is look
at the dots of what's really happening,
the call the dots the real events, and
then say what we think it means. And so,
there's no doubt that's exactly what I'm
doing right now. But, the thing that I
want people to put back into this is
one, an understanding that these are
real people that are involved in all of
this, including uh people that feel
dispossessed, including people that are
so afraid of our future that they
want to see this happen to Trump.
Uh
but, being very careful that you do your
best to think through what the second
and third order consequences are going
to be of this. So, for instance, let's
take the second and third order
consequences. If that bullet had been on
point and had actually killed Donald
Trump,
I cannot predict what would have
happened. You're hearing people say that
there would have been a civil war. I
doubt that civil war would have kicked
off instantly. That doesn't seem
um probable, but that could be hopium.
What it would, I think what would have
happened is exactly what happened after
the death of George Floyd, which is I
suddenly felt like I was in a car that
had hit a patch of ice,
and I didn't know what I was going to
hit. I just knew I was no longer in
control. And if I could get people to
understand that is how societies have
these stochastic punctuated moments of
uh violence, disruption. You don't have
to lose your whole nation. We look back
on history like the late '60s, starting
really in '63 when JFK is assassinated,
but going through I think through '68
for sure. Uh we just had this rash of
assassinations where people no longer
felt like they could
they no longer felt like it was even
sensical to try to play the game at the
level of debating ideas.
And that happens because of the
narrative that we begin telling about
what's happening. And so I want
certainly myself and everybody else to
focus on, okay, what are the second and
third order consequences of the
narrative that we're telling about this?
That doesn't mean you intentionally lie
and at some point you and I are going to
have to get into narratives and why it
isn't just [ __ ] and why life it is
stories. There is no way around this.
Uh we are all trapped in narratives at
all times. And so
as Victor Frankl said, between stimulus
and response there is
a gap and in that gap you do a thing and
the thing you do is create a narrative.
You find meaning and purpose. You say
what all of this means and if you choose
a positive
meaning for what you're going through,
then you can survive anything. Victor
Frankl survived the Holocaust. If you
choose a negative meaning, then an
entire other set of actions will
cascade. So what you believe about
yourself, your life, the world, all of
those things will manifest in your
behavior. And we've just seen unhinged
rhetoric now for so long and nobody very
few people
very few people are trying to find a
narrative that is both true
and moving us towards where I hope we
all want to go and and you guys will
hear me say this over and over and over.
You have to know what your goal is.
If you know what your goal is,
then cool. Like if your goal is to get
Trump assassinated, hey, amazing
rhetoric. It almost worked. Uh
if your goal is to um
have Americans have a shared sense of
national identity and pride and to want
to help each other and to be a useful
and moral force in the world, we are
[ __ ] up.
Look at the outcome of your
system, of your plan, of your mode of
action. The outcome is telling you
whether you're moving closer to or
farther away from your goal. For me, we
are moving about as rapidly away from
anything that I think is a sensible goal
as you can move.
Okay. Omniliberal, here's the tweet.
Uh, Donald Trump indicated and uh,
sorry, can you zoom in a little?
I wish my eyesight were that good, Eric.
Okay, Donald Trump incited an
insurrection and then was granted full
criminal immunity for possibly all of
his involvement. I have zero sympathy
for anything that happens to him or
anyone who supports him. I will argue
this position against any and all
conservatives of reasonable size, but
there's a reason none of you spineless
hacks step outside of your echo
chambers. I've had Destiny on the show.
I think Destiny is extremely smart. I
think Destiny is very good at holding a
lot of information in his head and
breaking things apart. But when when you
are saying that I'll debate that
presumably he's saying one ought to have
no empathy for people. It was empathy,
right? Not sympathy? Uh, no, sympathy. I
have zero sympathy. Excuse me, I want to
make sure that I'm very clear. Uh, I
have zero sympathy for anything that
happens to him or anyone who supports
him.
Okay.
Uh, if you're putting forth a moral
argument that somebody ought not have
sympathy, I don't see any way to put
together a logical argument for that,
but you could certainly build a moral
case.
Uh, and if he's building a moral case
that people should not have sympathy for
somebody that
um,
I'm going to take his stance. It's is me
saying this, but
I Destiny, my interpretation of him, is
that he believes that Trump really did
try to make himself king. I've heard him
use that rhetoric elsewhere. Really
tried to make himself king, would do it
again,
uh and so he thinks that is so bad and
so not the outcome that we should want
that he has no sympathy for the let's
just really take the hard case for the
person behind him that got shot to death
just for attending a rally.
I mean, honestly, it seems like he's
saying because he tried to be a
dictator, it's now okay to take him out.
And I understand that you might feel
politically that this is wrong.
Yeah, I I'm not going to say that that's
where he went and I think we have to be
really really careful. What he is saying
is he will debate anyone
of size that
you shouldn't have sympathy
for Donald Trump or anybody that
supports him. So, I want to be very
clear. That's as far as he's going with
his argument. And my whole thing is in
some ways I'm more concerned about that
because as we construct a narrative,
so here's how a narrative works. I I
think we have to cover this.
Uh you look at a thing.
Mhm.
Okay, you don't have to argue about what
thing you're looking at.
Donald Trump, somebody just tried to
kill him. Okay.
We all saw that. Now, the question is
what does it mean?
And this is where you're going to see
the narratives begin to diverge wildly
between the right and the left. And the
left is going to say that um
he brought this on himself. Donald Trump
has brought this on himself and um
I'm these are the natural outcomes of of
inciting uh January 6th. This is a
natural outcome of
calling people filthy and vermin and all
the things that he said. He brought it
on himself and this 20-year-old kid was
uh registered Republican. They're not
going to mention that he also donated to
Democratic causes or the fact that he's
20 years old and may have at one point
registered as a Republican simply
because that's what his parents did. I
know nothing about this man. I'm just
saying it won't matter
because people will look at the same
thing and they will walk away with
different narratives. The right is going
to focus you entirely on Trump is a
hero, he can't be taken down no matter
how many times they try to stop him, he
just rises up.
up that Elon Musk
uh tweet? I feel like this picture has
like encompassed the weekend.
Yeah, with uh him with fist raised and
the American flag behind him. I mean,
this is uh this is absolutely incredible
iconography. Incredible iconography. And
uh I'm I think you did as well, but I
got
texts from people that said uh oh, I
just assumed that Trump orchestrated
this himself.
And look,
conspiracies
sadly
at times reveal themselves to be true. I
know nothing about this. But for that to
be your first assumption tells you two
things. One, they have a narrative
running in their brain and that
interpretation fits the narrative that
they already have constructed and that
is why narratives are important because
you connect these dots and again, the
dots are the things you see, the
narrative is what what you see means.
The narrative is what what you see
means.
And so when people see this, if they
believe already, they already have a
narrative running in their mind that
this guy is the next Hitler, he is
terrible, he's going to ruin democracy,
he's an existential threat either to
democracy or to the nation, I've heard
both. Um
all of the sudden, it's like, well,
yeah, if this ends up being good for
him, then he probably did it. And by the
way, why wouldn't he? Like, why wouldn't
he do this? So,
where
the thing I'm waiting for, I think we'll
remain a little bit closer to sanity if
nobody ever questions
the ear.
Because there's
if people are really going to say that
he hired a sharpshooter to graze his ear
with a bullet from
400 yards away.
Yeah, like
that that's absurd. That's patently
absurd.
Because the risk of him getting killed
is just so high. I mean, it's just
absolutely ridiculous.
If they start saying, "Well, maybe he
when he touched his own ear, he had
something in his hand and he caused the
wound." Or God if that fracture happens,
then I get really nervous. Because now
we're trying to say, which unfortunately
we saw a lot with Biden's decline, you
didn't see what you thought you saw.
So, anyway, we could go down a rabbit
hole there. Right now, I just want
everyone to stay focused on the
narrative matters a lot. And because
we've been telling this narrative in the
media about how bad Trump is and that he
has to be stopped effectively by any
means.
Uh
this is the logical outcome of that.
What should we actually be talking
about? I don't want people to run into
their left and right pockets and spin
for the next 36 hours to make it work
for them. What should we actually be
thinking about? What should we actually
take away from this moment?
Play out where this all goes, right? So,
you're going to be hearing a lot about
they tried to first silence Donald Trump
by censoring his speech, take his
getting booted off of Twitter.
They tried to impeach him. That also
didn't work. They tried lawfare.
That didn't work. And now they've tried
an assassination attempt. Okay, that
that's a progression and there's plenty
of pundits that were like, "Hey, guess
where this goes." Tucker Carlson,
probably the most famous. And just said,
"There's nothing left. The only thing
left is assassination." Now,
what gets terrifying is when it's you
can really observe that. Now,
hearing that
before it happened yesterday, I would
have said, "Okay, that's probably a bit
much, especially given the level of
security and stuff that these things
have, but I get where you're going, but
you're exaggerating for audience, you're
chumming the waters, you're throwing
them things they want to hear."
Um
but it really is a pretty simple logical
progression. And so, now part of my
worldview just broke. And whenever I'm
unable to predict the outcome of
something, I realize I have to update my
worldview. Now, my worldview said that
there were brackets on this. Um I have
long believed for financial reasons that
we civil war was getting more and more
likely,
but I always thought it was going to
come from a financial place.
Uh that we would go into a recession,
that things would be just bad
financially, and then this would pop off
as a result of that. That is like so
predictable, it's ridiculous. So, now to
see it didn't even take that. Now, we're
not in the greatest economic situation
right now, but I wouldn't have predicted
what just happened based on that. But,
you can predict it if you're just
focused on the narrative, which is why
somebody like Tucker was able to say,
"Well, here's a narrative running in my
mind, here's a narrative running in a
lot of conservative minds. This is just
a sequencing of people who believe that
he's the worst thing ever
um are moving up a scale of how hard
they're going to go to stop him until
you get to the point where it's an
attempted assassination. So,
because you can follow that logic, this
is what I want people to run with, okay,
what's the narrative that you're holding
in your mind? You have to begin to tease
out narrative isn't truth.
The dots
aren't even necessarily truth. In fact,
pull up the CNN headline. This is This
Everybody already knows the the um media
manipulates us. So, that that is not a
surprise. Being aware of the fact that
it happens, very useful.
Mhm. Um
I think it is really important that
people watch both sides of the coverage
on this. Uh
most people are going to hate one side
or the other, that's fine, but you just
need to understand where the
manipulations lie, so that you can
ultimately form your own opinion. I
think that's really important. And even
somebody that you may despise, they
usually get big because they're able to
put their finger on an emotion that a
lot of people are feeling. Again, Donald
Trump is a representation
Mhm.
in both senses of the word. He
represents how roughly half the country
feels about the
um the system, the deep state, the
government, whatever word we want to
use, is somehow [ __ ] them up,
tripping them up,
taking their money, holding them back,
whatever, whatever.
And then he's literally a representative
in that he is running for
president again.
Now, when you understand that, then it's
like, okay, these things that are being
felt are being felt by a lot of people.
Okay, so the um tweet that I wanted to
pull up, which we are pulling up right
now, is from CNN. Anyway, they have a
headline. Uh the headline says um
something to the Oh, in fact, I think I
have it right here. Uh something to the
effect of
Trump fell
Yeah, Secret Service swoops Trump or
something like that.
Yeah, so Trump falls hard after hearing
loud noise, right? And then somebody
memed it and was like, oh, if CNN had
been around back in '63 when uh JFK was
shot, it would have read, JFK falls
really, really hard at rally. It's like
that that is looking at the same thing,
right? A shooter
shoots into a crowd, grazes Trump's ear,
kills somebody
in the crowd, and the headline is Trump
falls after hearing loud noise.
Now, one, if I'm CNN, I defend that by
saying, "Hey, it was too early. We
didn't know what was happening." Fair,
but you reveal yourself in your default
assumption, right? So, um just really
paying attention to that because once we
start getting into the realm of, "Oh,
hey everybody, this is what you saw."
And then this is the narrative that
we're going to tie in terms of what all
of this means. If you have fracture
points on both sides, it just gets more
deranging, and we clearly do. Um so,
if everybody stops,
focuses on, "We need a narrative that's
going to yield the outcome that we
want." So, first ask, "What is the
outcome that you want?" If the outcome
that you want is the erasure of the 50%
of the people that you don't agree with,
well, then that leads to violence. It
doesn't lead anywhere else. I mean,
it doesn't lead anywhere else. So, that
that goes to violence cuz nobody is
going to be forced into believing
something. Even if you create a
totalitarian state and force them to
verbally acknowledge that they agree
with you, they won't agree with you in
their hearts, and they will look for
every opportunity to subvert you, to
bring you down. Yeah.
So, that path only leads to violence.
And so,
the narrative that I have running in my
head is when you start messing around
with the layer of government that holds
a country together, even when that layer
is bad, it is almost always replaced
with instability. And then it just
becomes a huge question mark as to what
arises from that instability. So,
um
you have to find a narrative, and one
thing that bumps me out is that in all
of this, of course, RFK's message of
unity is just going to no one will even
be able to hear it. It it It's gone. As
far as I can tell, as much as this seems
like it cements Trump's presidency, it
also seems to cement that people just
aren't going to be listening to RFK.
Um so,
if your narrative predicts violence, if
the just stair-step into it is violence,
then
we have to ask
is that what we want? And if that's what
people want, then we're headed towards
national divorce. I won't say we're
headed towards civil war only because I
don't want that to be true.
Um
I want there to be other places that we
can exit,
but I don't want that to be true either.
National divorce to me is just a
tragedy. That would be an absolute
tragedy. Because it's all [ __ ]
narrative, man. It's all narrative. It's
all social media. It This is just uh
when you step back and look at what's
happening right now as waves propagating
through a system. I know uh you guys are
going to tell me not to speak like this,
but this really is what's happening. Is
all of us as humans,
once we're a part of a collective,
what any one of us does is sort of just
either amplify or de-amplify.
And a message. And so based on that,
when a lot of people amplify one
message, then you see it just sweep
through. When people don't react, then a
message dies very quickly. I mean,
everybody understands when something
goes viral. And so now what we're seeing
are these waves that just smash against
one side, which then creates this equal
and opposite reaction that smashes
against the other side. And so now the
only way I mean, this is just this isn't
uh "Hey everybody, love your neighbor."
Think of it as a physical system. The
only way to stop this is to have it if
all of us simply amplify or de-amplify
or simply fail to react, then that's all
that's left. You have one of those three
options. You either amplify, de-amplify,
or don't react. And
know what the outcome is that you want
and figure out which one of those three
things that you need to do, which is why
I'm obsessed with I don't want to be
down in the politics of this. This isn't
about politics. This is about culture.
Culture is about waves propagating
through a human system.
Ideas moving through the minds of
people, right? And so one minute it
could be all about Kendrick Lamar's new
song and and the beef between him and
Drake and that's the wave that you can
just see burning through culture and the
next minute it's this. But but that
energy is so palpable. Hopefully people
will not get lost in fancy words. It's
just ideas move through people in like
this excitement way. And when people are
excited about an idea and they have the
narrative that allows it to be memetic
and to spread like [ __ ] crazy.
Now all of a sudden you have to go,
"Okay, cool. I can only do one of three
things. Amplify, deamplify, not react.
Which path leads to the outcome that I
want?" And nobody's there. All the
rhetoric you're going to hear is going
to be about like what I call the T. It's
going to be about did the Secret Service
do their job? Um should people be
calling him Hitler? It's like, "No, no,
no. What are the narratives that are
being talked about? What do they mean?
Should we be a divided country? Should
we be coming together? Should ideas be
debated instead of um this being a
everything is beyond the Overton window.
He should not be allowed to talk.
Everybody In fact, a lot of what I
believe right now is based on a base
assumption that I hold, which is that
everybody thinks they can see the
future.
Everybody thinks they know who Trump is
and what he's going to do.
And they have so much conviction, at
least one person, potentially mentally
ill. I'm making that up. I have not
heard that. I don't think anybody knows.
I'm just this is Tom Bilyeu's
prognostication.
Potentially mentally ill.
But at least one person was like, "Yeah,
I can see so clearly the future."
You got to kill him.
So anyway, where do you want to end up?
What does your belief system, your
narrative predict will happen?
Do you think that the intention of this
is kind of to cut the head off the
snake? Cuz I agree with you, there's 50%
of the country that feel this way. So
taking out Trump doesn't take out that
idea, but maybe the assumption is that
without that leader it will just kind of
disband and maybe people come to the
other side or do you think once Trump is
out he's now officially a martyr and it
just kind of
the the idea gets bigger and it grows
and it becomes
Two questions in there. Question one is
what were they thinking in attempting to
kill Trump and hopefully at some point
we will find something that gives us
clarity on that. So now I am just
guessing based on um there being
a more or less limited set of obvious
options. So it's entirely possible that
this is a schizophrenic and Trump just
happened to be a famous person to him
and God told him what you never know.
Um
the most likely is that that they failed
to understand that Trump is a
representation of the feelings of
roughly half of this country who do not
believe that their future will be better
for them than it was for their parents
and it won't be better for their
children than it is for them. Anytime
you're in that sequence you're going to
have a problem. Uh and because they
failed to understand that they think
yeah, take cut the head off the snake
and all will be well which I don't know
how many uh government regimes even the
US has toppled where that just it hasn't
played out like that. Uh the people have
to see before they go oh this is
probably a terrible [ __ ] strategy.
But nonetheless
uh
they think that.
The other option is they're just not
thinking through the second and third
order consequences of if I had actually
been able to kill him and let's say it
did work all that energy is now
dissipated because there is no leader to
give voice. That really does matter.
When there's no leader like that energy
just never gets crystallized into a meme
which can then be spread. You really
need that for that that and that idea to
move through culture with that veracity
where you see it just crashing from side
to side. Okay, so there is a certain
amount of truth to the fact that if you
can take out the leader you create this
power vacuum. The power vacuum is
largely just people wanted to follow
that person. So, they were a uniting
factor. They were able to galvanize a
set of ideas. And they're probably able
to give that idea memetic value so that
it would transfer around between people
very quickly. Okay, but if you had
killed Trump,
I think what you see the next day, as I
was talking about earlier, is you'll see
pockets of violence like we did after
George Floyd, where people who feel
completely disenfranchised, who are
like, "Okay, and now you literally
killed my hope of finally being heard."
They have felt that he's Trump has been
unjustly persecuted for, you know,
whatever the last six eight years. I
mean, they were going after him in
office, out of office. Like it was
non-stop violence. And when you think of
him as a representation, suddenly that's
like an attack on If I'm that person,
I'm like, "Yo, you're attacking me now."
Because that guy was just my
representative. And so, it's going to
pop, man. It's going to pop off. And so,
the question becomes how far would that
have gone? That I don't know. Obviously,
my hope is that that would have petered
out very quickly. But, um that in taking
that shot,
if it had been successful, I think
things would have been way worse for
somebody who doesn't like Trump. Whether
you're uh in the Republican Party and
you hate Trump, whether you're in the
Democratic Party and you hate Trump,
killing him is about the worst thing
you're going to do because you are going
to ignite people that feel ignored.
All right, lightning round. Let's jump
right into it. Is the media somewhat
responsible for this?
All of us have three options, whether
we're a media company or an individual:
amplify, de-amplify, not react. So, they
have amplified like crazy at every
opportunity because it's what gets
clicks.
Uh I Yeah, that that is the truth.
On Tuesdays, Trump up up up in the polls
or down in the polls?
Oh, jeez. I can't imagine he's not up.
Does Biden need to be worried about his
presidential campaign at this point?
Obviously.
Do you think this happens again?
That That one's way harder to answer
because it it really comes down to do we
have a problem of
staffing in the Secret Service or just
running the Secret Service well? Because
if what we just saw, obviously I look at
everything through an entrepreneur's
lens. If I look at the Secret Service as
a company, a startup, and or even worse,
a mature company that has rot on the
inside, and their hiring practices are
off or their training isn't great,
um and that's what led to there being a
shooter that close that um from
eyewitness reports that I've seen, uh
they were saying, "We were trying to
flag the police and say, 'There is a guy
on that roof crawling with a gun.'" Uh
in their words, they were being ignored.
They probably just weren't being
understood because it seemed like they
were trying to shout across a distance
or flag them down across It wasn't like,
"Hey, officer. Uh there's a guy right
here." And they're like, "Oh, what are
you talking about, silly man?" I doubt
it was that. It's going to be something
more like, um they're they're trying to
flag him down. "Hey, hey, hey, there's a
guy up there." And they don't quite
understand what he's saying. So, anyway,
if we find that this is a company that
has some sort of highly dysfunctional
rot, then they're not suddenly on a dime
going to turn around and be good at
their job. Uh the thing that scares me
far more than this, in fact, um there is
a uh congressman
uh who I think I can put my hand on
their name.
Do you want to tweet that?
No. No. Not not fast. But, there there
is a congressman that uh put a bill into
Congress uh like a month ago. I mean,
it's pretty recent. Um trying to remove
Secret Service protection from disgraced
former presidents. It's called the
Disgraced Something Act.
Uh and the goal was that if he got
convicted that they would be able to
to deny him Secret Service protection.
Now, I will assume they were doing it as
an intimidation tactic versus actually
hoping that somebody would shoot him. I
don't know. Obviously, I can't speak to
that, but again, that first leap that
you make um
usually best to temper it, but you
certainly reveal your base assumptions.
Uh so,
that is a really bad look right now. And
so, that would be my bigger concern is
that the You're certainly going to see a
narrative form that will be It'll be
very interesting to see how Trump
responds. His first reaction was very
pro the people that protected him. If he
sticks with that and is like, "I won't
hear a negative word. These people are
absolute heroes who put their lives at
risk to protect me. Come on, we have to
be unified." Amazing. If he hears the
rhetoric of
"These guys, this incompetence is
intentional and they've done this to put
him in jeopardy." And then Trump is
like, "Yeah, this is crazy." Cuz I know
Elon was tweeting saying that the Secret
Service has to
um resign the the top. Now, if that is
just all about, "Hey, this is about
unintentional incompetence." Fine. If
this becomes about intentional
incompetence trying to take Trump out,
woo, again, follow that narrative. Where
does it go? You can't trust anybody. Uh
Biden's trying to take him out. Biden
might not have been directly behind it,
but he's like nefariously pulling these
strings. Um that's where again, you just
see this increasing velocity of the
divide.
That's the part that worries me. All
right, everybody,
at the end of the day, all of us are
going to have to make a decision whether
we are going to amplify, de-amplify, or
just not react um as one person who
clearly has a bias. My bias I will wear
nakedly on my sleeve. It is finding a
way to tell a story that brings us
together. Um
read Nelson Mandela's Long Walk to
Freedom. My interpretation of that, it's
been years since I read it, but people
used to go to him in prison and say, "We
need to be violent. It's long enough
that we have um resisted uh
non-violently. And if my memory serves,
he said something this is not a quote.
This is a paraphrase, but I keep
violence as an option on the list of
things to do, but it is an option of
such such last resort because of the
horrifying second and third-order
consequences. It is far better to do
this in a way that unifies. And what he
did when he got out, at least from my
distant viewpoint, is so inspiring uh a
bringing people together. And because I
know that humans respond so powerfully
to narrative,
I really want to see people amplify a
narrative that finds a path for us all
to come together. And so here is one uh
from an impromptu standpoint, that
enough is enough. Cool. Look Look at
where this led. And regardless of who
the shooter was,
because I now see a data point for where
the division leads us, and I don't like
that data point, it's not leading me to
the future that I want,
I'm going to lean on and this is why I
will um
single out Destiny uh for a minute, I'm
going to find sympathy for all of Trump
supporters. I'm going to find empathy
for the other side. I am going to think
only about the things that unite us and
not the things that divide us.
And when you do that, you will find that
there is way more that we have in common
and that there is a ton of true stuff.
You don't have to make these things up.
There's a ton of true stuff that
actually does unite us. There is a
reason why in your day-to-day life you
don't encounter a bunch of sociopaths
popping off at the mouth with their
political opinions because they're just
trying to feed their kids. They're just
trying to get along, trying to have fun.
They want to laugh with you. They want
to enjoy. And this is in large part
because of the way that social media
just allows these ideas to get
crystallized into their most divisive,
name-calling, horrifying rhetoric. It
rewards impulsive behavior. It is crazy
town.
If we can
propagate things that bring us together,
we will move towards the vision of the
future anyway that I want to see. You
have to decide what it is the future is
you want to see. Make sure that you
amplify those messages. Don't just think
about the here and now. Think about
second, third-order consequences, which
can be very hard to predict. So, be very
careful. All right, everybody. If you
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