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The video centers on Tony Gaskin's critique of a group of male relationship influencers, specifically Derek Jackson, Stefan Labosier, and Ace Metaphor, who he believes are failing to live up to their potential by prioritizing quick money over genuine purpose. He argues that while these men have the talent to be top-tier media personalities, they are instead engaging in what he calls "grifting," where they capitalize on the industry without offering constructive advice or teaching valuable life lessons. Tony contrasts this behavior with his own approach, which is rooted in ethics and a desire to help people find their God-given purpose rather than simply regurgitating common sense or encouraging destructive behaviors like infidelity and promiscuity. He emphasizes that true significance comes from upending the devil's work of confusion and destruction by promoting healthy relationships, marriage, and personal growth, rather than feeding into the desires of an audience seeking validation for unhealthy lifestyles. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on Ace Metaphor, a nurse who Tony views as the smartest among the group but who ultimately chose to monetize his brand by taking Derek and Stefan on a tour instead of pursuing his own vision of helping nurses decompress through retreats or launching a scrubs line. Tony reveals that Ace eventually made twenty million dollars off the other two men before surpassing them, leaving Derek and Stefan behind while Tony declined an invitation to join the tour because he felt it would validate their destructive messaging. He explains that the tour environment was filled with confusion and conflicting opinions, making it impossible to deliver a coherent message, whereas his own community offers a structured system for finding purpose. This decision highlights Tony's refusal to compromise his values or associate with those who lack integrity, even if it means turning down lucrative opportunities that could have expanded his reach. Tony concludes by addressing the moral implications of making money in the relationship advice industry, asserting that once individuals learn how to monetize without morals, they rarely stop because their entire business model depends on unethical practices. He warns his audience to guard their ears and eyes against unverified advice from single men who are not married, arguing that only those with successful marriages can offer legitimate guidance on relationships. He shares personal stories about raising young women who lacked father figures and how he stepped in to provide the mentorship they needed, reinforcing his commitment to accountability and truth even when it alienates him from certain circles. Ultimately, he invites viewers to join his paid Purpose Pushers community, where they can access a supportive environment focused on ethical living, spiritual growth, and finding their true calling without the distractions of gossip, drama, or foolishness found in other platforms.
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Well, y'all, I seen seen my boy bike at it. Old Derek Jackson bike at it, man. Listen, Derek, if you don't go somebody weight, man, go out there and be a model or something with this shirt off, man, and stay off the podcast. He was on uh Willie Moore Jr. podcast. Y'all think I ought to go on Will and Mo podcast, man. Have a real conversation. Good conversation about love and relationships. But listen, this to everybody, not not not just to Derek or nothing like that. I ain't picking on Derek. I don't know the man, you know. I ain't got nothing against the man. I think he I think he tried. I think he honestly tried. He want He want to be something. He wanted to be somebody. That's that's why I started the purpose pushers community. Click the link in the description to join it. He wanted to have a purpose. He wanted to live his purpose. He wanted to be significant instead of being insignificant. But the thing about it is nobody prepares us for what significance looks like. Because when you want to be significant, you are upending the devil's playground. Like you upending the devil's work. Like the devil trying to do certain things. He trying to have destruction. He want confusion. He want fornication. He want adultery. All of those things of the evil spirits. That's the devil goal. So when you come out and what Derek was doing, I mean, he was going viral and he was giving away the game. So he really took my blueprint and just did it in his own way. And I'm going tell you, and a lot of people miss a lot of people miss their purpose. They they miss it. They misunderstand it. And so he thought like, "Oh, let me do what Tony Gaskin's doing and let me give relationship advice cuz I done clenched this bag of groceries between my booty cheeks and showed off muscles. Let me do what Tony Gins do." But the brother got a silver tongue, meaning that boy could talk. When I tell you that boy could talk. So I'mma tell you what the boy could the boy could talk and the boy could think. So you know what he's supposed to do? He's supposed to do what Willie Mo Jr. doing. Cuz I think Willie Mo Jr. went through a divorce. And you see what he doing? He talking. He's gets on that podcast and he asks questions. That's what you supposed to do. Same thing Anthony O'Neal doing. When you not good at relationships and you can't make that relationship, that marriage work, you need to talk. You need to ask questions, not give advice. And so what Derek didn't understand is he could have been the number one television host in the world, the number one radio host in the world, the number one podcaster in the world, but he followed the blueprint that he saw out there. So he saw me, he saw Stefan Labosier. Stephan Labosiier was following me, copying me. And so, and again, he's single, not married. Then, Ace Metaphor came. Ace Metaphor is a nurse. So, that mean he's smart. So, Ace went to the lesser smart guys, Stefan and Derek, and said, "Let's do a tour." And he came to me, too. But he don't realize I'm smarter than all of them put together. No disrespect. So, I said, "No." I turned the tour down. The three of them went on the tour. Like the three musketeers, I turned the tour down. I said, "No, I'm not going to tour with y'all. None of y'all even married. Why would I go on a tour as a married man? I'm the standard in the space. Why would I put my brand next to y'alls? Y'all not the standard. Y'all not even married. Y'all grifting. Y'all trying to Y'all trying to get money. y'all trying to take and capitalize off the industry. But Ace Metaphor being the smartest, he was the one, the smartest of them three, he was the one able to capitalize. So he took them on tour. He got money off of them. He got money cuz they brand was bigger than his, but they weren't smart enough to monetize it. He come in with his nursing books and he monetized it. He monetiz I transitioned into this from the streets. So my mindset was different. Like I wanted to work and all that like what is you coming over here for boy. Oh it's a merge. It's like boy you better put a blank on boy. Put your blank on man. Like put your blank on just coming cutting over here bro you got to put a blank on. You got to use your blanker. By the way, you cutting in front of a $300,000 vehicle with no blanker and it Volkswagen Atlas came can't came can't came can't came can't came can't came can't came can't came can't came can't came can't came forward now bumper coming over here without a blanker. And so he come in and he say, "Hey, I'm f to monetize." So he get money with them. Then kick them to the curb. Boom. Kept going cuz now it built his brand. What they ain't realize they built Ace Metaphor brand by partnering with him, aligning with him. Then he surpassed them. He went on his tour and he say he done did $20 million. He done made $20 million off y'all. I ain't made $20 million. That man came in and made $20 million off y'all. Why? Itching ears. Itching ears. You go to the tonight's conversation uh tour thing, you fell right for the trap. you fail, right? You fell for the shiny object syndrome. So he gets out there, he get into it and start making money and then after I got into it with him on the boys podcast, the Heartland Initiated, he invited me to come on the tour. Man, what I look like, dumb? No, I'm smarter than you. I'm not coming on your tour to justify and validate and to bring credibility to your tour. No, you I'mma let you stay on there with your underlings and them people who is desperate for a check. They need a check. Cheyenne Argusy Bryant need a check. And all them other people up there on the stage need a check. They don't have a name. They don't have a brand. They don't have no respect in the industry. They need a check. So, let y'all go ahead. He offered me $5,000 per show. And he said it could go up from there. Cuz he knew I bring credibility. And I told him, I said, "Man, what you doing is destructive?" Because y'all ain't teaching nothing. Y'all ain't even talking about nothing real. It's destructive. He was like, "Well, if it's destructive, why don't you come be a part of it so it could be constructive?" And I say it can't be because it's too many voices on the stage. So everybody leaving confused because one person say right, the other person say left, the other person say north, the other person say south. So when you leave, you just like, well, which way do I go? Because everybody had a difference of opinion cuz you got a bunch of bumping gums up there. And so what he was supposed to do is start a scrubs line for cool nurses. He was supposed to start retreats for nurses to decompress and de-stress from [snorts] working the ER. and he was supposed to be a retreat leader for nurses and make millions of dollars, get $1,000 ahead every retreat for nurses, for doctors, for [snorts] all them type of people. And so that what he was supposed to do. He was supposed to do that right there. And instead, he wanted to get into love and relationships cuz guess what? He he pushing pushing beds. And he look over and he and he look at dang Derek Jassel a star. Stephan Bosiier star. Tony Gastel a star. I'm over here in scrubs pricking people in the arm taking blood. Oh man, I'm insignificant. They voice being heard by the world. So he got online started just regurgitating the same talking points. Stole all my talking points. Stole everybody talking points. Just regurgitating. regurgitating, but he's a spoken word poet, so he knew how to deliver. So you deliver common sense, it go viral. And then they call me, they call me jealous. It's like, boy, I started this. Like, I'm the originator of all of this. How I'm jealous of you? I just don't want to do what you doing cuz I got morals. I got values. I I I don't want to do what you doing. I'm not a grifter. I'm not f to just play on these women. I'mma get a gang, but I ain't I ain't trying to monetize to the high heavens. It's like I I could charge $1,500 an hour and it's nurses and [clears throat] doctors and lawyers, thousands of them that follow me that will pay it. But I don't do that. I don't do that. And so they went around, they racking up the money. They racking up the money. It ain't even about helping nobody. It just about getting to the money. And I believe in making money. I'm driving in a Bentley that I gave my daddy. This is my daddy car. I gave it to him. And after I bought him a Maserati, I believe in making money. I just believe in making money with morals, making money with ethics. I don't I don't believe in muddy in the water. I don't believe in, you know, putting heroin in your veins to make money. I don't believe in dumbing you down and giving you dumb information so that I could get made so that I can make money. No. If I'mma make money, I want the information you pay me for to change your life for the better. I don't want you to pay me for information that's going to scramble your brain, that's going to hinder or hurt you in your life. I don't want to condone anything that's going to be destructive in your life. I don't want to do that. That's not how I want to make money. And so, we got into it on the podcast. Harley initiated. He was like, "Well, you act like people are a monolith." I said, "There go that nursing degree. What? What? Y'all got some type of monolith blood or something or some type of monolith scrubs? Like, what are you talking about, bro?" He's like, "You acting like people are a monolith." And I'm like, "Bro, it ain't about being no monolith. It's about right and wrong. It's about common sense and dummies. And it's about doing things that are productive and healthy. You teaching people that it's okay to be a side chick. It's okay to be sucking dangling and you not married. It's okay to be fornicating. Talking about we not a monolith. So some people want to fornicate. Some people want to suck dangling while they dating. Some people want to be a side chick. We don't need that as black people. We need a nuclear family. We need husbands and wives. That's what we need as black people. We need to get married. You want to have sex with her, marry her then. If she's not good enough to marry, then you shouldn't want to have sex with her because having sex is a life sentence. You can catch a lifealtering disease. You can you can catch a lifealtering disease. If you have HIV, you can live with HIV. My client just released a app, a network for people with HIV. It's called 448. Go in the app store on Apple and type in 448 uh HIV. Maybe it'll come up and and just the numbers 448. It's like red and purple or red and blue. And my company built it. We built it for. So if you want your app built and put in the store, reach out to us. Go get on the app if you have HIV. She built the community because she felt lonely. Felt like there was nobody out there for her. That's what could h You can have a lifealtering disease from sex. That's a that's a big choice. That's what my client after she went through what she went through and I don't know her whole story around it, but she felt alienated, felt ostracized, and it's like she turned her pain into purpose. That's why I created the purpose pushes cuz that's what I do every day on my calls. And I'm like, you know what? We need community. We need togetherness. So, join the community. and she took and that's what I talk about like yeah it's a paid community but what you getting in exchange you getting a group a community instruction you getting a purpose formula you're getting a purpose system to help you be productive to be significant in this life you're not learning how to suck dangling you're not learning how to fornicate better learning how to be the other woman or the other man. You're not learning that. You're learning how to live your God-given purpose. And we need help with that because if we didn't, everybody would already know their purpose and be living it. We need help with that. And that's why I created the community. And so now these guys, listen, they want to be significant. Before Derek Jackson cheated on his wife and it and got caught cheating on his wife, the man had done the man had to elevated to the upper echelon of life. The man had done got him a Lamborghini. The man was eating and I imagine he's still eating today cuz you going to have a certain segment of women who they they want to be his next woman. Like they they don't care. They feel like he could change and they're going to they're going to it's some women that's so, for lack of a better term, dumb that they're going to think that it was all her fault and that she just was a toxic woman and he's this amazing man and that they could change him and that they could they could have, you know, life ever after with him and that they could just ride off into the sunset. So, you're going to have tens of thousands of women that's that think that and they going to hire him for one-on-one sessions. They they in his DMs and trying to talk, hey, I want to have a session with you. I want to learn cuz although you went through what you went through, you still taught me a lot and you taught some good stuff. So, he he forever going to be able to eat because it's always going to be ignorant women. It's always going to be ignorant women. It's always going to be homosexual men that want to talk to them and talk to them muscles and it's always going to be so you never going to go completely flat broke but money going to go down cuz when people realize you a grifter they get off of you and see for me I'm I'm taking the gloves off man I I be out here and I won't be saying nothing and all of that and and I I got to answer to God for that for me not speaking up for me not calling out the grifters. for me not calling out the scams and the shams. I got to answer to God to that. I got to answer to God. And the Bible say expose it to all so that everybody knows. And I got to and a lot of people be blinded. A lot of people just they have on blinders. They don't know. They don't have discernment. And so those of us with discernment have to call it out. We got to speak up. And for me, it alienates me. It puts me in my own little red box to where nobody want to work with me. Nobody want to talk to me. Nobody want to do none of that because they know I'mma call a spade a spade. They know that. But I'm not worried about that because I got my tribe. I got who I supposed to work for, who I supposed to work with. I got my tribe. So I don't worry about that. I'm not trying to be friends with nobody. I'm trying to be friends with the Lord. And I got to call out what I got to call out. And and at the end of the day, you know, it's like if somebody want to do something about it, they could they could do something about it. But they they know I ain't doing nothing but working for the Lord. So they know if they try to do something to me, they got to answer to the Lord cuz they know I'm doing I'm I'm doing the Lord's work. Because you got to realize it's not like I can steal their audience. Like the people who listen to these people, that's where they mind at. That's their intelligence level. That's what they want to hear. Like can't nobody steal nobody else audience. They always gonna have an audience. But see the thing is sometimes my audience get confused and my audience be like, "Well, hm, I wonder if that right there." And it's people who on here who go to the tonight's conversation. They go to the to the tour stops and there's people who done went and then wrote me later like, "Hey, Tony, I went, man, it was terrible." One person told me, "Man, I had to get up and walk out. That thing grieved my spirit so bad. I had to leave. The questions that was being asked, the stuff they was talking about, I had to leave." I said, "Well, I could have told you that." I don't know what I what you went in there for. Going in there just being messy, just being nosy, trying to be seen, trying to walk your little butt in there, thinking your hips going to sway and you going to catch your man. You don't want no man out of there. have a man in there. He child, you going to have a nightmare on your hands. But some people will do it cuz they don't know no better. People don't know no better. And it's like everybody ain't talk. Like I I got people on here that's in their 20s now. 26 years old. Been following me since they were 17, 18. I I done raised people. I done helped raise people. I I done I done taught women stuff that they daddy never taught them. I done taught women stuff who they didn't have their dad in their life. So they didn't have nobody to learn from. And I became the person that they learn from. And guess what? They know they safe with me. They know that they did a session with me. I ain't tried to have sex with them. Ain't tried to sleep with them. Like like the young lady who left tonight's conversation. She she left and said that Ace Metaphor be out there having sex with the girls that come to the events and that he cheat on his girlfriend and she came out and and put that out there. Got Hey, I also got Tatum one that you could uh gift card >> that you could use whenever he earn it or whatever. Got two of them. And so that's what she took and said. She was like, "Hey, he do this, he do that." And and it's like, "Okay, yeah, she could have just been disgruntled or whatever, you know, whatever it could have been or it could have been some truth to it." And to be honest with you, I'm going to tell you this. I know how hard it is to be out here. I know how hard it is. Like it ain't easy to be in this industry and to have a position and a platform of responsibility and to be looked up to. To be looked up to. to be desired or what have you. If if you're not used to female attention, you're going to fall. And I could look at them and tell that they not used to female attention. Like that they weren't like that growing up. That they didn't have the pick of of their choice growing up. And so they got they became grown men. And now you get to pick. And men know men. Men know one thing about that. Men know men. We know who really him and who was him. Just like killers no killers and money no money. Men no men. And that's why that's why I I stand on what I stand on. and and each last one of them know I'm over here doing this don't try me like no baser cuz boy folks could go back and they know I I just don't play about this. I don't play about this because when God saved my life and I was telling y'all my story the other day how I'm supposed to be doing life. I'm supposed to be I supposed to be in the feds. I post the stuff that God saved me from. The stuff that God graced me through, I don't play about this on this side. I do not play by God. I do not play by his children. I do not play about the messaging. I don't play by it. That's why that's why my audience can't really grow no more because I'm too real. If you not real and if you don't want the real, if you want to be placated to, you want to be lied to, you want to be coddled, this the wrong place for you. You not going to like, you not going to like it over here cuz you going to feel like, oh, you judgmental because that's what you call accountability, judgment. You call somebody holding you accountable and calling you out for your filthiness, you call it judgment. And that just come from ignorance. It come from complacency. It come from being a grown boy or a grown girl and not doing what you called to do. Not not being willing to do what you called to do. That what that come from. That's all it is. So you got to realize and understand and you got to guard your you got to guard your ears. You got to guard your eyes. And I'm going to tell you something. With these men out here talking and with these women out here talking, it's two things you got to ask yourself. One, are they married? That's the first thing you ask yourself. Are they married? If they giving relationship advice, the first thing you ask, are they married? If the answer is no, shut your ears. If you not married, then you got all the advice that you need cuz you single too. It ain't nothing another single person could teach you more than what you already know cuz you single too. You know what you need to know. Only thing you need could learn is from somebody that is married. some from somebody who is married and happy because you don't want to learn the wrong way. You don't want to learn the wrong way. And everybody want to be a teacher. Everybody ain't meant to be a teacher. Some people you meant to be a teacher's aid. Some people meant to be a principal. Some people meant to be a hall monitor. Some people meant to be a janitor. Some people meant to be dean of students. Everybody ain't meant to be a teacher. Everybody want to be a teacher. And that's the problem with our world. Everybody want a mic in their face. And and everybody want to give advice instead of asking questions. Everybody ain't called to giving advice. And that what a lot of folk want to do. And I'm going tell you something though. Once somebody figure out how to make money, morals and values go out the window. If how they learn how to make money is not based on morals and values, it's gonna be very, very hard to get them to stop making money like that. It's going to be very hard. Very hard. Very hard. And so, and I'm going tell you that being that the tonight's conversation couldn't get me, they going to go after my brother. They gonna go after RC Blakes. He gonna go out to RC Blakes and see if he could get him. He gonna try to get somebody who is legitimate, who is respected. And I ain't going to judge him if he go because some people are called to go into the wild. Some people called to go to go share their message in the wild. Me, I don't believe in casting pearls to swine. I don't believe in that. I'm not f to waste my wisdom in a environment that is not accustomed to wisdom. That environment, everybody with a ticket in there is accustomed to foolishness. They are accustomed to immaturity. They are accustomed to drama and gossip. They're not accustomed to the voice of God. They can't hear the voice of God. Cuz if if they could hear the voice of God, they wouldn't be in there cuz it's not being put on by a man of God. So they wouldn't even be in there if if they could hear the voice of God. And the thing about it is God don't want us to go get dirty to learn how to be clean. He don't want us to go play in the mud to try to come out crystal clear, snow white on the other side. That ain't how God play. God don't ever tell us to go be tempted and go amongst sinners and go amongst darkness to find the light. He in in instead he say what business do those of the light have being with those of the dark? What business do the righteous have hanging out with the unrighteous? And and that don't mean perfect and unper and imperfect. It mean th what business does those who are seeking growth and seeking to be a better person have to be hanging with people who are not seeking growth. People who want to be coddled in their mess. If you want to be challenged, I taught my 12-year-old the other day. I say son, seek reproof. Seek correction. I say the problem with most people is when we receive correction, we feel attacked. I say the Bible say in the book of Proverbs that a wise man seeketh reproof. We want to be held accountable. We want to be corrected. We want to be pushed into purpose. We want to be called to a higher level of living and a lot of people don't want that. But hey, if you ain't got no community, you seeking your purpose, make sure you join the Purpose Pushers community. Click the link in the bio. You going to hear me say that on every video, so you might as well go join us. God bless you. Keep your head up. All the other important links in the description. And if not this one, then it'll be in the other ones and y'all could DM me the topics and things like that on there. It'll shorten requests. A lot of times I can't respond cuz I I'll be in there all day. But God bless you. And the only message I respond to now is my members of my purpose pushers community just because that's going to take enough time in itself cuz um I I think we probably crossed 80 people. So that's a lot of messages I have to respond to is that that that's a day's work right there. So outside of that, I'm not responding to any text messages, any emails, anything. If you're not in the community, I'm not going to be able to reach you because after I get done taking care what God has called me to be a steward of, I ain't going to have no time outside of that. My time outside of that is going to have to be for my family. But hey, and same thing with sessions. If you don't have sessions already on the book, the only way you're going to be eligible for future sessions is if you're a member in the Purpose Pushers community. So, I have to be a steward over what I've been called to. And I'm not going to have the time, the energy, or the effort, or the desire for anything outside of that other than my wife and kids. So, hey, God bless you. Keep your head up. We'll talk soon.