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The podcast details several compelling incidents involving alleged interference with nuclear sites, beginning with a 1964 event at Vandenberg Air Force Base where Bob Jacobs, an instrumentation specialist overseeing over 100 personnel, witnessed a dummy Atlas warhead being deactivated by a UFO. During the routine test of ejecting a dummy nuclear warhead from its booster, observers saw the object float in space before being wrapped and laser-fired until it tumbled out of the sky. Major Floren Mansman was present when two men in gray tweed jackets demanded Jacobs sign an NDA to never speak about the incident again; these individuals were likely representatives of a nondescript agency such as the CIA. Following this suppression, Jacobs faced harassment including mailbox explosions and phone threats before his military records were deleted by the government. Decades later, Mansman publicly vindicated Jacobs in 1987 while working at Stanford, confirming that over 100 people worked under Jacobs' supervision, a fact now supported by verified DD214 military records. Further anomalies occurred in 1967 at Echoflight launch facilities near Malmstrom Air Force Base, where ten nuclear missiles inexplicably went down during two separate incidents on March 18 and March 24. Strategic Air Command admitted they had no explanation for the simultaneous failures of these operational systems, leading Boeing to hire a third party to investigate how non-nuclear EMPs could have shut them all down at that time; such technology did not exist then. Robert Kaminsky, who worked for Boeing on the investigation in the 1990s, concluded it was likely caused by UFO activity rather than technical malfunction or natural phenomena like nuclear blasts. Additionally, Bob Jameson, a targeting officer responsible for retargeting missiles after they went down, stated he had no idea how the event happened and noted that his team was briefed on its connection to UFO sightings, describing the incident as totally unprecedented. The narrative continues with 1977 at Ellsworth Air Force Base involving Mario Woods, who claimed a UFO abduction experience where gray beings surgically implanted marks into his ankle and wrists while leaving his partner Michael Johnson in a catatonic state from which he eventually disappeared. More recent allegations surfaced in 2010 regarding FE Warren nuclear site in Wyoming, where an Atlantic article initially reported only a one-hour power failure but was later corrected to reflect a twenty-four-hour shutdown that required briefing President Obama due to the severity of losing power at such a major facility. Retired missile technician John Mills attributed this extended outage to a Tic Tac-shaped object flying around the base, contradicting the initial "engineering failure" cover story which claimed an impossible component malfunctioned; eyewitnesses cleared by security maintained their testimony that a craft was responsible for the anomaly. The discussion concludes with an analysis of why such sensitive UFO-related data might be managed outside standard civilian oversight, pointing to the Department of Energy as the likely custodian rather than the executive branch or military alone. The speaker draws parallels between the extreme secrecy surrounding the Manhattan Project and Los Alamos under Leslie Groves in the 1940s and 50s, noting that loyalty tests and kangaroo courts were used to maintain control over atomic secrets. A pivotal moment cited is Nathan Twining's 1947 memo stating that UFOs are not fictitious and suggesting efforts might be made to build similar crafts independent of other projects or civilian bureaucracy. The Atomic Energy Act of 1954 further supports this theory by classifying any radioactive material as secret upon retrieval, allowing aerospace corporations like Lockheed Martin to operate under unique DOE clearances (NPQ) rather than standard executive branch lines, effectively creating a compartmentalized system capable of housing independent UFO research projects away from congressional oversight.
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What are some of the most compelling
stories of interference with nuclear
sites?
>> Yeah, so you have a bunch of stories.
You have in 1964 there's a guy named Bob
Jacobs who's a photo instrumentation
specialist um in the Air Force. He has
over 100 people working for him. Um
they're doing an an atlas uh dummy
nuclear warhead test. Uh this is at
Vandenberg Air Force Base. He's down the
coast. So he's 80 miles north of that at
Big Su. and he's basically using a
telescope to look at this dumb dummy
nuclear warhead being ejected off of,
you know, um an Atlas missile and it's
this test.
>> And he uh it's a routine sort of, you
know, uh telescoping of this of this
object. He then uh gets called in to
Vandenberg Air Force Base and his his uh
superior, this guy, this major Floren
Mansman, calls him in and they're
watching video uh of, you know, uh what
they caught and they see um the dummy
nuclear warhead get ejected from the
booster and uh it's just floating in
space and you see a UFO uh uh wrap laser
uh uh uh the dummy nuclear warhead and
seem to deactivate it and wrap around it
and continuously laser it until it
tumbles out of the sky. And so Bob
Jacobs freaks out and goes, "What is
that?" And uh uh Mansman's trying to,
you know, come up with explanations.
He's like, "I really don't know. This is
really like concerning." And there are
these two guys in uh gray tweed jackets
in the back of the room and they
basically uh uh say to Bob Jacobs, "You
are to never speak about this again.
Here's an NDA. Sign it." uh they're, you
know, come from some nondescript agency.
I think they were probably CIA. And uh,
you know, that's that. And this is
what's crazy. Bob Jacobs then blows the
whistle on this and says, you know, this
is actually what I saw. Like this this
this was a you know, a UFO. And um he
gets harassed. He got somebody calls his
house and says um it's a beautiful
night, mailbox light or something. And
they blow up his mailbox. Um uh he hears
like heavy breathing on the phone.
People are calling him with heavy like
he's getting basically harassed around
his testimony that this is real. He gets
deleted from the government. So
basically his records get deleted and
people are like he never worked there
and then Mansman has to Mansman is is
kind of goes dark like doesn't say
anything until I think 1987 he's like a
researcher at Stanford and he comes out
and he's like actually Bob Jacobs worked
for me and 100 plus people worked for
him and so you had all this obiscation
and then this vindication I've seen Bob
Jacobs DD214 which is your military
records and he definitely worked at
Vandenberg Air Force Base and now I
don't think anybody sort argues with
that. So that's this crazy case you have
in 1967 actually two incidents um at
Echoflight la you have these underground
launch facilities at Echoflight. So,
Malmstrom is this Air Force base with a
bunch of Minutemen nuclear missiles and
you have a couple of different um
underground launch facilities both at
Echoflight, one of the launch facilities
and Oscar Flight Independently. You had
10 uh uh nuclear missiles go down and
that was concurrent to topside guards in
both cases. One was March 18th of 1967.
One was March 24th of 1967 seeing UFOs
like like hovering around the base and
then the nuclear missiles just go down.
So it's this crazy thing. This guy Bob
Salace who I interviewed on record um
has talked about this a bunch you have
uh in the first case in in uh um uh you
know echoflight case you had strategic
air command literally documenting like
that they don't know why the missiles
went down. Boeing was actually hired to
investigate how 10 nuclear missiles
could ever go down. Obviously, you would
get like a third party contractor to
investigate this. And they were like,
"This doesn't make any sense. There's no
sort of like we weren't even really we
didn't even really have non-uclear EMPs
at the time. You know, EMPs are
electromagnetic pulses. They get created
by nuclear blasts, but now there's like
modern directed energy versions of these
which are like nukes without the nuke
kind of. It's spooky And these
weren't really even operational at the
time, but they were looking into like
mini versions of EMPs that you could
create that might shut down 10 nuclear
missiles. And they came out being like,
"We have no idea what this is." And this
guy, Robert Kaminsky, who worked for
Boeing at the time, came out later in
the '90s being like, "I think this was
definitely a UFO." There's another guy,
Bob, Bob Jameson, who was a targeting
officer who was in charge of retargeting
the missiles uh to to get them back
online. He's been on Larry King and
talked about this and he was like, I
have no idea, you know, how this
happened. You know, this is this this is
totally unprecedented. And that he was
actually briefed on this involving UFOs.
It's pretty crazy. Um, so you have those
you have those two cases in 1977,
Ellsworth Air Force Base, you have a guy
named Mario Woods who claimed to So this
is really crazy. He wake he woke up 9
miles away from Ellsworth Air Force Base
after seeing a UFO and his partner this
guy Michael Johnson who also saw the UFO
was in a catatonic state and he like
never heard from the guy again and or
they met up once after that but then
this guy Michael Johnson like
disappeared and um and he got a hypnotic
regression and claimed to have boarded a
craft and like gray beings and and then
a there's a tall gray being directing
these small gray beings and them
implanting surgically certain things in
his ankle where he has marks on his
ankle and on his wrists and he's shown
the marks on my show. Um so you have all
these cases. Um again 167 cases. Um oh
this is a really crazy one. Okay so
sorry I should go forever. uh in uh in
2010 uh so Robert Hastings this guy who
wrote the book you know UFOs and nukes
has all these amazing sources of people
who come to him with these cases. In
2010 you had a case at FE Warren nuclear
site. This is in Wyoming and you had a
shutdown going on at FE Warren that the
Atlantic reported on. The Atlantic said
that it lasted about an hour and that
Obama was briefed because you would get
briefed if you know one of your major
nuclear sites went down. Totally lost
power. Robert Hastings backneled with
this retired missile technician, a guy
named John Mills. John Mills said to him
that it was actually 24 hours. It wasn't
an hour. And John Mills had friends who
were uh missile security on site. And
they attribute this shutdown to a
tic-tac-shaped object flying around the
base. And apparently these guys have
sort of had trouble getting promoted in
their careers possibly due to this leak.
Here's what's crazy. You look at that
Atlantic uh article that talks about the
shutdown and it says there was um a
power failure at FE Warren. power is
crossed out and then it goes engineering
failure. And so they like made it some
sort you can look this up now. there is
they made some mistake and they like
allowed their live tracking or like
editing of the piece to be displayed and
there was this false cover story around
how there was some engineering failure
of like a component that never fails or
something like I don't I don't remember
the exact debunk on like the component
or something but like it was completely
implausible and so there was clearly
this completely anomalous outage Obama
was briefed and it was attributed by
eyewitnesses who are cleared eyes to a
tic tac, you know, flying around this
thing and you see the Atlantic live
trying to cover their tracks.
>> Does this mean the Department of
Energy's involved then?
>> The Department of Energy is definitely
involved. They have to be involved.
>> Why them specifically?
>> Yeah. So, the Manhattan, if you think
about what the most locked down project
prior to a possible UFO project would
have been, it would have been the
Manhattan project. And so the Atomic
Energy Commission, the most sensitive
sites, um, you know, in the US, I think
Eric Weinstein even has a story. I'm
blinking of the guy's name, but like
he's he this guy from the Midwest and he
goes to Los Alamos and he goes back, you
know, to Chicago or something and he's
like there's a whole city in the
Southwest and it's like all these
scientists and they're working on a
thing. That's how locked down Los Alamos
was at the time. Leslie Groves, who was
in charge of security, was, you know,
Matt Damon plays him in Oppenheimer. You
see how intense he is about Oenheimer
not, you know, he he couldn't smoo with
socialist spies. It was this like, you
know, really important thing. And there
were all these kangaroo courts in the '
50s around like, you know, kind of
loyalty tests among these top
scientists. So if you really wanted to
maintain control over a subject, I think
it the natural extension would be the
atomic energy commission. In fact, in
1947, the head of air material command,
so responsible for all uh aircraft
development in the air force is a guy
named Nathan Twining. And he writes a
memo called the Twining Memo. And he
says, "UFOs are not visionary or
fictitious." And then in the postcript
of the memo, he says, "We actually might
have some ideas as to how, and I'm
paraphrasing, some ideas as to how these
things fly, and we might undergo efforts
to build some of these crafts, but if
this were to ever occur, it would need
to be exist wholly independent of other
projects." Basically, what he's saying
is wholly independent of civilian
bureaucracy moving in and out of
government. So like very little
congressional oversight and probably
tucked away in some of these
compartments that guard our nuclear
secrets. If you look at the 1954 atomic
energy act which created the department
of energy, if you look at the uh special
definition of nuclear material in it,
it's basically any uh uh uh material
that is radioactive at all emitting
alpha beta gamma radiation is born
secret. It is classified upon retrieval.
And so then you could use these
aerospace corporations like Loheed
Martin or Northrup Grman or any of these
guys and as soon as they uh uh uh
retrieve a thing, it is classified under
the NPQ the line of clearances, not the
TS, TSSEI, not the like executive branch
line of clearances, the DOE line of
clearances. And so I think there are
plenty of reasons to want to offiscate
this from the civilian government, from
the exe executive branch and want to put
this in the uh Department of Energy. A
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