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Naval Ravikant argues that while media coverage focuses on immediate, timely events, historians will soon look back at three critical areas currently ignored or underestimated: the limitations of modern medicine, the dominance of autonomous drones in warfare, and the revolutionary potential of GLP-1 drugs. He contends that biology remains largely in a "Stone Age" state because regulatory bodies prevent sufficient experimentation to develop better explanatory theories beyond basic rules like germ theory and genetics. Consequently, many treatments are banned despite their efficacy, leaving humanity with outdated surgical approaches for removing organs like gallbladders or tonsils rather than addressing underlying biological inefficiencies. Naval suggests that figures like Brian Johnson represent a necessary shift toward extreme experimentalism, such as self-administered supplements in an N-of-1 trial context, even if he disagrees with specific methods like high-dose supplementation outside natural contexts. In the realm of military strategy and future conflict, Ravikant predicts a total transformation where traditional assets like aircraft carriers, tanks, and infantry will become obsolete due to the rise of autonomous drones. He envisions an end-state battlefield populated not by guided missiles but by "autonomous bullets" that are self-directed without human guidance. In this scenario, warfare becomes a contest between swarms of these independent agents; whichever side's technology prevails forces immediate surrender, rendering conventional armed forces irrelevant. This shift represents a fundamental change in the nature of combat where speed and autonomy dictate victory rather than massed manpower or heavy armor. The third major development Naval highlights is GLP-1 drugs, which he describes as miracle medications surpassing even antibiotics and statins in importance. These compounds offer profound benefits beyond weight loss, acting as addiction breakers for substances like heroin and opioids while simultaneously lowering risks of cancer, dementia, Alzheimer's, colon cancer, and cardiovascular disease by improving insulin metabolism. Despite overwhelming evidence supporting their safety and efficacy—particularly regarding the prevention of toxin overuse from sugar or alcohol—their adoption faces resistance because they challenge established narratives that frame obesity as a moral failing rather than a downstream consequence of societal issues like malnutrition. Naval notes that while about 10% of the population currently uses these drugs, demand is high among those seeking to age better and maintain metabolic health, yet distribution remains skewed toward wealthy individuals or Medicare recipients due to pricing structures in countries like America compared to overseas availability. Naval acknowledges the significant backlash against GLP-1s from nutritionists, trainers, and doctors whose livelihoods are threatened as these drugs render their traditional advice on diet and exercise less critical for weight management. He compares this resistance to the military's continued purchase of aircraft carriers despite the advent of drones, attributing it to strong incentive biases where professionals defend sacred cows that protect their status rather than accepting new realities. Ultimately, he believes the body positivity movement is dying as people increasingly prioritize being thin and clean, driven by a desire for longevity and health. He concludes that society must urgently address how to make these life-saving drugs broadly available and affordable, noting that solving obesity issues will drastically reduce downstream costs in areas like dialysis and federal healthcare budgets, making any politician who tackles this issue richly rewarded.
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what do you think is currently ignored
by the media but will be studied by
historians you're asking me that
question right now what do I think is
ignored by the media but stud by
historians well I
mean the media is only focused
on very timely things right so it
depends if you want to talk about timely
or Timeless right but as as a simple
example if I just look at things that
maybe the next or 10 years that are
going to make a massive difference that
people are not focused enough
on um and I think within two years this
will be obvious so like the not making a
prediction and predictions are tough but
you're going to have to eat it in a few
years yeah I'm going have to eat eat
this in a few years so I'm probably
wrong but uh two things that I pay
attention to um that I don't think uh a
lot of people do pay attention to well
there's a couple one is I think just how
bad modern medicine is I think people
just put a lot more faith in modern
medicine than is warranted our best
ideas for a lot of things are surgery
just cutting things out right uh
treating things that are extraneous like
oh you don't really need a gallbladder
you don't really need an appendix or you
don't really need tonsils all that's
false every Surplus requirements human
body is very very efficient all those
things are needed um you know so I think
I think the state of modern medicine is
still pretty bad we don't have many good
explanatory theories in biology um we
have germ Theory disease we have um
Evolution we have uh cell theory we have
DNA genetics uh morphogenesis
embryogenesis and not much else you know
there's not much else everything else is
rules of thumb memorization a affects B
Because effects C effects D but we don't
understand the underlying explanation
it's all just words pointing to words
pointing to words so biology is still in
a very sorry State and because we are
not allowed to take risk that might kill
people um we just don't experiment
enough in biology so a lot of treatments
are just outright banned by large
regulatory bodies so we just don't have
the Innovation so I think we're still in
Stone Age when it comes to biology and
we got a long ways to go uh and I think
people will look back a Gass at this and
I think this is Brian Johnson's point
he's like you know let's be more more
extreme let's try to live forever let's
be more experimental and I'll start as n
of one and start experimenting on myself
and um but even there I disagree with
Brian in many things like you know
taking huge amounts of supplements I
think we just don't know supplements
outside of their natural context like
just eat liver man right um but it's
fine and and I wouldn't be vegan either
but you know it's it's I I really
appreciate that he's experimenting he's
good natured about he shares everything
so we need more people like that um so I
think the state of biology people will
look back and say wow that was in the
Dark Ages um I think uh another uh
another thing that we'll look back on is
I think we we still continue to
underestimate how important drones are
going to be in Warfare the future of all
Warfare is drones there will be nothing
else on the battlefield um because I
think of the end state of drones as
autonomous bullets not even guided
autonomous like they're self-directed uh
and so if that's the future we're headed
towards and that's a is just Why would
you have an armed Force that's there's
gonna be no there there's gonna be no
aircraft carriers there's gonna be no
tanks there's going to be no infantry
men there're just going to be autonomous
bullets bu autonomous bullets against
your autonomous bullets whichever ones
win the other side just surrenders it's
over um I think that's a second piece of
it I think a a third piece that is going
to be uh kind of unexpected is the glp
ones which I know you and I privately
discussed before I think these are the
most breakthrough drugs since
antibiotics um probably more important
than Statin they're sort of Miracle
drugs they seem to the there are
downsides but the downside and side
effects are so minor compared to the
upsides Beyond just weight loss um they
also seem to be addiction Breakers they
seem to lower many kinds of cancer they
almost metabolically reverse aging up to
a certain point um and I think they're
going to bend the curve on health care
costs and the big question people going
to be asking over the next 5 years is
why are Americans paying thousands of
dollars a month for this when people
overseas are getting them for free or I
can order them from China for free or
whatever um and maybe it like if I were
Bernie Sanders the platform I would be
running on is I would say okay we're
going to pay you know hundreds of
billions of dollars to Novo and Eli Lily
and we're just going to make these free
or there's hundreds of analogs of these
things that work these are not going to
be you know limited to just the few that
are that are being used today just take
one of them or two of them and make them
free and I think it'll make a big
difference and uh as you and I were
discussing earlier uh this does bend a
lot of people out of shape who got there
the oldfashioned way and they want to
see obesity as a moral failing on
people's parts and it lowers their
status if they are signal is less of a
signal absolutely yeah so so they're
incented to say oh well you don't know
the downsides you know it's
irresponsible suggest it's going to
cause cancer have fun losing bone and
muscle mass by the way none of that
stuff is really true the cancer stuff is
actually beneficial on I know people who
are now taking these things for
anti-aging reasons um they're already
fit but they just want to age better and
have a strong insulin metabolism um and
there's evidence now these things are
you know they put off dementia
Alzheimer's colon cancer it's insane
cardiovascular disease like the the list
of benefits is insane there's no free
lunch
but this is a class of drugs that
prevents you from taking other drugs
into your body it prevents you from
taking uh you know too much sugar too
much too many calories in an era of
abundance prevents you from smoking
prevents you from even uh there's an
organization called Casper that is now
doing a study on heroin addictions and
they're showing that this can lower
opioid overdoses and herin addiction so
there's a lot of overwhelming medical
evidence coming out and I think I don't
I don't know the exact number but I
think something like 10% of the
population might now have tried these
things I I think that's the number that
i' seen as well it's massive I think
it's about 50% of the population say
that they would like to try it exactly
so uh I think the body positivity
movement is dead and we always kind of
knew it was a scam it's I mean it's
dying very very quickly yeah equipped
like you can never be too rich too thin
or too clean right and immediately like
a whole bunch of people went non lead my
mention like what do you mean too thin
and what about the hygiene hypothesis
and you know obviously there's always
exceptions but people want to be thin
and fit and people want to be clean back
to the pathogen discussion that we had
um so I think overall that there's going
to be huge demand for these things and
our modern medical system is not built
to supply these well I'm not I'm not
I I don't hold it against the farmers I
think the farmers did their job by
creating the thing but I think next we
need to step up and figure out how to
make it broadly and cheaply available as
opposed to just milk it for only for you
know people on Obesity who can get
Medicare to sign off for it or people
paying out of pocket at very very high
prices yeah um the the benefits of
societal distribution of the safer glp
ones is so large that whichever
politicians are tackles that is going to
be richly rewarded well obesity is the
number one source of malnutrition
worldwide there's twice as many people
that are obese than are starving so
about half a billion people are starving
in OB so many problems are Downstream of
that like you know look at how much of
the federal budget goes into dialysis
because of kidney failure and why is
that it's because of diabetes right so
so many of the problems that we have in
modern society are Downstream of obesity
and you know this like Fitness is so
important uh and yes there's in some
people these things called mus cause
muscle and bone loss but not in the
people who are eating high protein and
working out hard so it they can be taken
in a way that's safer and some versions
of these like L glutide the original one
they've been around for decades and the
others have been around for about a
decade so and we already have as you
said 10% of the population taking them
so they're already quite widely
distributed good sample size yeah it's a
great sample size what more do you need
like if if you if you have a bacterial
infection that's eating you I don't say
oh I have this antibiotic but it's going
to raise your blood pressure it's like
no take the antibiotic if you're going
to kill yourself I say take this antis
psychotic and stay alive a little longer
and solve it I don't say oh it's going
to you know cause your heart rate to go
up by three beats a minute I don't worry
about that so similarly if you're
poisoning yourself with toxins and
overuse of substances that you shouldn't
be using either heroin alcohol
cigarettes sugar or just sheer calories
um take this glp1 uh they also improve
digestion you just have less calor just
less food matter going through your
stomach they lower cancer risks across
the board there's quite a few cancers
are lower um cardiovascular I mean I
don't know what else to tell you I've
been very surprised by the negative
reception whenever you have a
conversation about gp1s and I think a
lot of it may be people
who well think about how many sacred
cows are being gored right all the
people who are basically saying uh you
should work harder you should be fit
like I did right it's lowering their
status think about all the nutritionists
and doctors and trainers who are now
being you know it's too easy they're
being put out of business in a way right
uh it's it's kind of like why does the
American Military keep buying aircraft
carriers right in an age of drones um
there's an incentive bias it's a very
strong motivated reasoning uh but it
doesn't matter 10% people are on it uh
everybody wants to be fit it's going to
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