The Truth About David Dobrik | Jason Nash Reveals Everything

sometimes you get like 10K for like a six second Vine I was just doing stand-up one night David was in the audience just knew that there was uh something there for sure he just goes Jay I got it bury you in the backyard [Laughter] but first before we go into that we gotta thank today's sponsor Creative Juice look if you're a Creator you've probably realized unfortunately that creating content is only a very small part of your business like there's so many other things that just take up your time that aren't really that fun and managing finances taxes and expenses can be incredibly overwhelming especially if you're not sure which transactions are business or personally is Right Ranch and that's why Creative Juice is a perfect solution for creators just like you not only do they offer a business banking account with a debit card and rewards but they also offer automated and personalized tax tools specifically for creators if you don't know where to begin with taxes begin with juice now 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me up how do you guys feel about energy drinks not a fan I feel like they got to be so unhealthy they make me kind of sick yeah that's what it is Red Bulls I could kind of see but I don't like the taste it has a very like uh you know citricky taste yeah but then you get into like the monster energies and that sort of stuff I don't like Rockstar where you the candy is like Twisted off the top yeah I tell you what's delicious is that that Prime energy drink yeah it's delicious but it it like sends you off I've had it before I think it's actually it's really sweet I'm surprised how they got it so sweet only being like 20 calories yeah it's aspartame isn't it I think so yeah so it's the artificial sweetener that has no calories it tastes really sweet though right the downside with that apparently is that if you could control it it's really good but it activates something and I could be totally wrong in this it activates something that it's like a sweet gland in your brain yeah makes you more likely to want sweet Foods after that yeah yeah so like that's the danger word you could just like contain it it might be okay but like you'll be craving other sweet things afterwards and that's kind of weird yeah I could see that where the danger comes in that happens with Diet Coke with me yeah oh Diet Coke is addicting man yes it's dangerous so good it's so good I'm curious though has your caffeine coffee intake and your diet changed recently because I saw that you you went through this like incredible transformation with Fitness oh yeah and you're like really jacked now like the six-pack and yeah I'm trying do you still have a six-pack uh sort of really yeah it comes and goes depends on like to have a six-pack you have to um you have to just really limit your calories so I have like a two and a four pack but then the lower is it'll always tough it's tough yeah you have to really really um watch what you eat and so that that's that's what I did I was just really heavy and I was just like and I just felt awful all the time and uh and then I just got to be I'm gonna be 50 in May and I just got to be like okay I I gotta really just try to clean up my life and so I just started to um yeah I just like slowly got down to like a really specific diet and just eating the same thing every day uh or the same types of foods every day and uh and yeah and I'm just much happier that way cool you know it's almost like a like an alcoholic who's like yeah like I would love to have a drink but you know my life is way better without alcohol you know so I'm just I'm just that way with food so I'll just I'll go off like I will I will eat in the middle of the night I'll sleep eat um sleep eating sleep eating is like when you just wake up in the middle of the night and like like start eating really yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wake you up though does it wake me up yeah I mean I'm up I remember it okay but I'm still doing it I'm just like it's so is there a reason behind why you want food at that time yeah I just have like an addiction of to food like since I was a child like just uh you just like food is so comforting to me that's that's why so I think that's why and uh you know it it sucks because like I was fat as a kid and uh yeah you just gotta like I just keep working on it it's a struggle it's every day what was the big change for you because it was a pretty abrupt shift it seems like my perspective well I'll tell you what a really big thing was was my friend Ilya yeah he um he started this like Fitness company and he started to get everybody in shape and uh and all those guys that I'm friends with they're just like a lot younger than me and um there was just probably just something in me that was just like oh you know I I can do it too you know yeah so when you're like around that and um you know it makes it fun and it feels good you get like a dorphin rush and then so it just became a thing like every morning um just going out with Todd and Hiking doing Runyon every morning and you just become addicted to it you become addicted to the that high and uh and then yeah you just keep working at it and the more you the more you go into like a a workout Journey um you can see that you can like oh wow I'm going deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper into it and it just it makes you want to just like keep going and uh and it just feels it feels so good I just never been I've never been happier that's really cool I really I really haven't what other changes have you noticed because of your current Fitness oh everything everything sleep better like I have sleep apnea so like when like I have like a lot of like fat around like my neck and stuff like I don't breathe at night so I I sleep better I uh I can walk up the stairs better um your clothes fit uh you have more confidence like you know like if you're just even out at a party and you're just like you you know you feel like I don't belong here you know um you know now you're like okay I I'm I'm the best version of me that I can be and um and that that that allows you to like not beat yourself up you know so because normally I can I can I can like really spiral down and be like Oh I'm [ __ ] and I'm not uh I'm not funny and I'm not this and I'm not that and I'm not as especially like being around um you know like around what we do there's like so many fabulous people that you meet all the time you know like uh and so you feel like oh I'm not as funny as them or I'm not as talented as them so at least I know that like if I'm keeping myself in shape I'm the best version physically and that's one less thing that I that I won't beat myself up about I'm I'm good I even coming here today like I said to my fiance I was like oh man I can't work out you know because I'm going to do the podcast and she was like you look great she's like don't worry about it and I was like okay yeah you're right it's so funny I would be on your side and be like no you gotta work out yeah honestly I'd be like I'd find a way to work out yeah man see I would be the type to cancel and just be like no I want like I gotta hit the gym like that's a non-negotiable thing yeah yeah it's you just and that that's another part of it too is like you you want to go every day and you need that level of commitment to to feel good going every day how do you prevent yourself from falling off of that because I know for me if I don't keep such a disciplined uh like uh uh like output um or consistency with it if I I just fall off pretty easily so I got to be like 100 or zero yeah 100 you just have to be 100 I I there's I guess there's just like a feeling in my brain now which is like if I don't go do it then I'm I'm like disregarding all the work I've done yeah so it's like okay I'm here today I'm 172 pounds and uh but if I don't go to the gym today then I'm like I'm going backwards so I don't want to go backwards are you going to go today uh after this oh it's kind of rainy I love how if you correct your Fitness every other facet of your life is basically improved what I've noticed with my personal life it's like I hear so many people saying you gotta grind if you want to become successful and you should go down this Avenue if you want to do this and this and this but if they're not focusing on their their health first I think it makes it so much harder to become motivated to be successful in other facets of life if you solve this root issue of your personal fitness everything else good in life will follow suit I think yeah yeah I think so that's what I've been trying to do is just trying to keep every area of my uh just to have balance and keep every area in check all my relationships uh my working out my work my kids um and uh yeah you have to you have to tend to everything you have to like it's like a garden you know it's like okay I'm doing this and you're feeding this and you're feeding this and taking care of this and um yeah it's I don't know it's definitely I definitely like this age the best this is my best age good for sure yeah it's it's the most fun when I was younger um I would always be like concerned like Huawei where I'd be somewhere and I'd be like oh I should be somewhere else or I should be doing something else but now I I I've learned to just be like uh oh really really good this is what we're doing right now enjoy this and and uh and that's it you know do you think you you felt more pressure when you were younger that you had to perform at like the the best or you had to be busy or what changed yeah when you're younger you when you're younger you just don't you just don't know you're just like I wasn't I I we didn't have the I I I didn't have like the internet back then no so there was uh when you were as far as a career it was like more gatekeepery kind of stuff so you would go to like ABC or fox or and be like here here's my sitcom and you would pitch it and then they would say okay go write it and then you would like go write it and then they would be like we're not gonna pick it up and so it was just like very you just felt stuck all the time and so then when the internet came around and things weren't going great for me and like TV and movies I was just like okay I'm gonna go do this and it was like really freeing and then I was able to to just like you know find some success and really enjoy what I did and enjoy life more but when you're when you're you know when you're younger I just feel like I mean I see it now with a lot of my younger friends like they seem they seem lost in a way even though they have a lot but there's certain things that I'm like I wish I could just tell them but you can't really tell anybody you just kind of have they just have to go through yeah but you know what hold on to that for a second because I found it very interesting that in our last podcast episode 93 of our viewers were a male and 87 were over the age 25 which is exactly why we're excited to thank our sponsor 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you guys fighting over you know it would be like keg parties and like big brawls and I'd be like standing there you should be watching uh yeah I was pretty clear with them I'm like I'm they were my friends but I'm like I I'm not gonna fight like this is so dumb and uh you know I don't know it it just like it that that whole mentality of you know being a guy and like fighting and stuff it just never my father always wanted me to play football I just didn't want to I was like I'm not gonna go out there and get hit are you crazy what was it in you that made you that way like all right it's a fist you could be not about fighting you know you don't want to harm people like I mean there are you know good sides to the Token uh it just felt so it just felt so dumb I mean I guess in a way like I was a bit of a I was I was I felt like I was above it sure fighting I'm being honest but I probably felt like I was a little snobby like yeah like honestly like is this what we're doing guys because I was into like I was into like comedy and stuff I was into like Saturday Night Live and I was into like comic books and like um uh just any kind of comedy movie and stuff like that and then but but no one I had a lot of Comedy uh albums and I would show my friends I'd be like oh my God this is Eddie Murphy Raw you know and they'd be like yeah it's funny yeah I guess so it's just there was just kind of like uh and that was the great thing about moving to LA and stuff it's like you met people that like you were you were like if you were like a comedy nerd here you were you were like celebrated like there was like so many people that were like into that kind of thing or when I moved to LA people would be like you know uh just the idea of like going to see a stand-up comedian live was like oh wow like that's awesome like you guys like to do that like that's great so that was that was really cool to find that I mean my favorite thing that I've done in the last couple years other than be with my kids is just go see we saw Dave Chappelle at the Hollywood Bowl that's cool like it was just you know when you go to a concert and you're like it's good yeah but then you're kind of in and out you're like I don't really like this song like oh I like this song the songs yeah yeah Dave Chappelle is like every minute and I was just like so yeah um what was that like moving to La like what problem we got we got to finish this story all right here okay we're at the LA part so you're in high school you're not fighting people no you like comedy no I played a little basketball but it wasn't good and uh I was on the team and they would never let me shoot the ball they would just let me rebound and um yeah then I just went to college made some really good college friends and then I was in college and I got a uh I applied for an internship at Saturday Night Live and went down to my mother drove me from Boston to New York and then I met I met on Dateline and I met on Saturday Night Live and uh and I went on Saturday Night Live I wore like a three-piece suit I remember my mom like bought me a suit at Marshalls and and I walked in to Saturday Night Live and I was like oh like like no one wears a three-piece suit list I look like a total door and uh because it's like it's it's Saturday live it's like it was like uh born on like Counter Culture or like you know people were just walking around and like you know sneakers or whatever but then they they gave me the internship and then I worked there then I worked for Norm Macdonald that is so yeah that was that was that was the best what were you doing for Norm I was just uh like it's just his assistant just faxing jokes when they would do update they'd have like lots of people send in jokes so just organizing the jokes and then wanting him he would go through them here like a cigarette in his mouth and and um yeah so that was that was fun I did that and then then I started performing when I was like like 23 start doing like stand-up and characters and did a little UCB what were your characters uh I used to do I used to do a guy called the shaman that was a Jim Morrison a guy that was in a Jim Morrison cover band okay um I did a lot of uh I used to do my girlfriend who was like really emotional um I don't know I did I did all kinds of dumb characters um but yeah and then um yeah I moved to LA did stand up tried to act made a couple movies um and then when I was in um I was just doing stand-up one night at The Improv and uh David was in the audience and then he's he talked to me after he's like oh you should come to YouTube and I was like oh okay and uh and I was like oh yeah I mean it's like just knew that there was uh something there for sure it sounded so fun yeah you know and I remember I was kind of like oh I can't go I was like 43 at the time I think and I was like I can't do YouTube on my 43 and he was like oh why not like just go do it and he uh yeah I really really owe him my life he was he was like so he was so great because he he just he I remember he said to me he was like oh how much money do you need to make a month and I was like well you'll like this you like talking about money here we go and he goes uh I remember I was in his car and he we had been working together for a couple weeks like he kept calling me every day because he he was posting a lot especially like three times a week and he was like uh he just needed a lot of content so I was like oh yeah I'll go I'll go I was having a lot of fun he's like how much money do you need to make a month and I was like I need like five thousand dollars a month which I thought was insane and he was like you had two kids at that point yeah two kids yeah and and I was completely broke and he was like I was like oh you you can make 5 000 a month and I was like what I was like no no way and he was like yeah just like start a channel and I was like oh man I don't know and so then like I made like a very very bad first YouTube video with him and um and then maybe like four months later I was making like 35 000 a month really yeah wow nope before that though I call my ex-wife yeah and I was like she's like we need to uh she's like I need money for something and I was like and I was like I was like oh I got it I got it no problem she's like what how and I was like oh I'm making like 35 000 a month and there's just like a long silence on the end of the phone and she was like what and I was it felt so good so yeah oh my God it was crazy crazy now what about before that though weren't you doing Vine or was that at the same time how I did I did Vine for a couple years and I did okay on Vine I was making like I probably make like one year I made like 250 000 300 through what sponsors and stuff sponsors so you'd get like you'd be surprised you could sometimes you get like 10K for like a six second Vine what year was that because this is like at the very beginning of where like all of this was taken off I knew exactly what it was it was I started with YouTube the end of 2017. okay and Vine this must have been like probably my best year on Vine was maybe 2015 or 2016. wow and then it was and then but then it all crashed like it's I've had so many ups and downs like literally I had three million on Vine and things were going great yeah and and off that vine success someone gave me a movie they're like I wrote a movie and they they funded it and I was like okay cool and then the movie took like a really long time to make and to come out and blah blah blah and then the day the movie came out Vine was erased so what was that like for you and Vine just like disappeared yeah I sold six copies of the movie and Vine was gone on the same day so then I was like oh no I was like I didn't know what I was gonna do so then I started installing speakers at speaker conventions I would like set up things and I was like all right I'll just and that and that was like a month where I was like I don't know what I'm gonna do and then right after that I I met David doing stand up and um yeah but it was cool it was just like you know that's something I always tell people too is like um I was at my lowest lowest lowest lowest and I was just like I'm gonna go do stand up I was like that always makes me feel better I love that and sure enough if I hadn't gone and done stand up that night like I wouldn't be sitting here with you guys you know what Drew you to David at that point because this was didn't he just start the channel then so it was no he was doing really good before I started with him he already had like three million okay something like that and he was getting like really good views and I would watch them because I knew about him it was really funny the day that I met him I had been watching his Vlogs that day and I was like oh I was like because I knew him a little bit from buying and I was like I was like good for him I was like he he figured something out and it's like completely original I thought and it's always friends and his friends are funny and he did you know and I was like I was like he figured it out good for him because he was always really funny yeah and then that night I met him like there's been a lot of weird like that in my life that just weird Kismet right place right time and so much of it is just like um you gotta you gotta like keep this just goes back to even like the working out thing you gotta just keep showing up trying to just keep going and just keep trying and and hopefully like you're prepared when some something breaks I know I really appreciate and I think it's really nice for you to think that you like oh David your life or whatever you said earlier but at the same time so I was a pretty avid viewer of David's videos like ever since the beginning and I thought you had honestly an Irreplaceable role I thought you were uh let's say like a table can't well I guess it can stand on three legs but it wouldn't be very stable at all you know that's nice I really think you were one of the most important aspects of David David's videos and he I really don't think he could have done what he did without his friends at all right definitely definitely not without his friends but I'll counter that and say that he's a master of just he'll he can pull in what he needs for the video so if it wasn't me David would have found something else that was just as funny because he won't he won't post anything until it's amazing yeah but if he's that great then he picked you for a reason right yeah yeah yeah exactly because because you were really good the thing that I loved about the thing I really love most about David is just that he we had the same sense of humor that and that was really really really really really nice to be to just know that like whatever he said I was gonna think was funny and whatever I said he was gonna think was funny and to to like mesh like that with somebody even though he's like 20 years younger than me was really cool like that was that's the best creative partnership I've had that's awesome him and uh and and Brandon calvio is is really fun like Brandon always has like really great Instagram sketches that he'll like bring to me and like will you be in this and I'll be like yeah that's really funny so but I think you deserve a lot of credit that's nice for his videos yeah I don't I don't think of it that way that's the comic in me like I don't I never think you never think you're funny for long you know like you know when you like tell a joke and like you like people laugh yeah and it's like it's over you know you have that you have that you have that second yeah where you're like tennis ending yeah yes and then it's like oh what's what's the next yeah thing what's your process for coming up with jokes like how do you do that uh for jokes I don't know I mean like when we do the roast and stuff yeah or anything like when it comes to Comedy like what's the what's the creative process look like like how do you how do you decide whether or not Something's Gonna Be funny or how do you test it out it's usually like an area um when you when you're like talking to somebody and you're like oh that'd be a funny stand-up joke or that'd be funny for a video um you just tell people you tell people the idea and if if they laugh then you're like okay there's there's something there um like I'm trying to I'm trying to think of something that we're working on us working on oh I was working on this idea the other day like um like we take this yoga class and the girl's a great teacher she's really good and she's really like she's very Zen like yoga's supposed to be really Zen but she's also like pretty pissed off at everybody so like we were just saying like she'll come in and she'll be like she'll be like hi guys you guys how's everybody doing today and like no one will answer and she'll be like okay I'll just go [ __ ] myself you know like so it's just that yeah so there's something funny there I think the dichotomy like dichotomy of like a yoga teacher they're supposed to be super Zen that's like pretty pissed off that like no one's paying attention you know your career was a lot more tumultuous than you made out like you have some pretty interesting pivots there was a time I was a kid I was tuning in to my favorite show yeah Drake and Josh oh Drake and Josh and you were in Drake and Josh that's such a fun that's such a funny thing because you guys your age see it that way like whoa he had a line in Jake and Josh but I saw it as like I was like broke and I had a friend who was a writer on the show and he was like oh let me see if I can get you some money come in you can come today and have one line and make 500 500 for one line yeah it's something like that or maybe it's like you know like 600. so yeah so you just go and you're just like I had a lot of jobs like that you just go and you like sit there then you go in and do the one line and you're in very like very low status there because the stars are there and um yeah I didn't really I don't really enjoy it I don't really enjoy like sitting on a set that much I really like like creating and doing YouTube I thought that was the coolest thing because I grew up with you in like in like high school right like I grew up watching like your Vines and everything and I saw you on David's Vlogs and everything and then come to realize that was you in the famous Drake and Josh and I'm like well I grew up with him apparently a lot longer than I thought no that now you're just like totally embarrassed when you're doing it you're like oh my God I can't believe I'm hearing this I love it it's funny because everyone else who sees that thinks it's the cool yeah they think it's cool yeah you're just like I gotta get home have you ever you ever been recognized as the person from Jake and Josh and not from uh no no never no no no no no one's ever been like man yes he never no it's never happened they've mentioned Drake and Josh only because I think they made a big deal out about it in the Vlogs but like I remember I think like David put it in the Vlog or something so people will say it like Drake and Josh like you but yeah but yeah it was it was just a it was just a job that day and I remember the guy I remember they they threw a cake and the cake crashed and we were like done and then they said oh no no no they they throw a cake on somebody on a woman and Sugar's covered in cake and apparently they didn't get the shot so the woman had to go back take off all her you know put off do her makeup all over again and then redo the cake and I was just like uh do you get residuals for that or was it like 500 bucks one time thing Josh do I still get residuals yes yeah and you know it's funny when when things were um when David's Vlogs were were on and those checks were bigger this is really weird maybe I think when Josh came into the Vlogs there was like a spike in interest in Drake and Josh and I could see that so then those residual checks that were like seven dollars they would be like 200 200 yeah incredible it's really weird so how much do you think you've made in totality from your what was it like from acting 15 no no from your 15 second clip in Drake and Josh or however long it was I probably made like you know three thousand dollars a thousand so that's a good that's a great great day yeah that's pretty good over the years it's nice they take care of you after wow that's the um after the what is that the processor no no yeah it gets the acting build yeah sag after and I got another question about Norm Macdonald because I'm a huge fan of Norm I don't know if it's sacrilegious for you to say this but like was he the same all the time was he always that kind of like aloof type like yeah he was like a real loner he was like a real I think he I think when he went and did like stand up in like so many places and so many weird places and that he he was like he became um very what's the word solitary you know like he just didn't need anyone else because he was was so funny and so when I knew him he he was great he was really nice to me and he took me everywhere but he he definitely had like an attitude like um I don't need anyone you know and which he was not good yeah he and he was that good yeah so it was a very like Lone Wolf kind of guy but he was also really fun he would Gamble and he would he would love to like play uh soccer in the hallways and he'd love to play basketball even though he wasn't like that athletic and um he yeah my my best Norm story is uh we all went out one night and I was really young I was like 21 whatever and um I ended up going home with this girl and then the next day I came in to Norm because I was like really new to the city like living in New York I didn't really know and I turned him and I I said oh my God I said this girl she um she put cocaine on my [ __ ] last night and I said I'm gonna tell you this but don't tell anyone and he goes yeah yeah yeah I won't tell anyone you know what I mean that's so good she put cocaine on my [ __ ] and he was like oh my God he's like that's insane and then like five minutes later like the UPS guy came in with like a bunch of packages for him and he was like hey Norm and he was like hey Jerry this is Jason the intern he's like the guy likes cocaine on his [ __ ] that's like mortified and then he did that for like the next you know three months he would just you just be sitting here like a high pressure situation yeah you'd be like maybe handing him jokes or something and right before he's about to go on and he would like turn to the page and be like hey you know Jason likes cocaine on his car that impression is spot on that's real a lot of people can do a norm it's pretty easy to do but really go for it I couldn't do it I couldn't do it I'm not even gonna try I can't even do it he was he was the best he was like he learned so much from him and I don't know he's just the funniest and then as the years went on just watching him like do all his stand-up sets and stuff and watch his specials I still watch it I watched his talk show uh appearances all the time really him on Conan yeah they're they're epic like talk show appearances I don't think a lot of people realize like a lot goes into those like those are those are comedic sets that they've crafted they're not stand up they're not doing um their stand up back they're they're crafting something completely new you know to do right there and I'm always like really interested in that yeah on like a nightly basis too there's a lot of content that goes in on yeah well Norm would be on Conan or or later men like maybe I don't know maybe yeah three times a year yeah something like that but still um yeah they're fun to watch if you go back and watch them and I guess that was what gave him a real Resurgence was um because he wasn't on TV anymore but what was really giving him this was surgeons was these YouTube clips of him on Conan and that would like fill the seats and stuff that was what I heard him say at least yeah yeah because they are great they're spectacular and his last Letterman said is spectacular um so yeah I got a question about edginess in comedy yeah yeah how does Norm get away with saying the things that he said like why because a lot of people they pick and choose their villains and I feel like Norm was just one person everybody was like we're just gonna let him say whatever he wants to say he's a harmless dude he would do this really cool thing a really smart thing which was he would towards uh later in his career I would watch him uh he would kind of blame it on someone else you know what I mean he he had this he has this talk show on YouTube it's like called the uh it's a podcast called The Norm Macdonald podcast I can't remember what it's called but it's really good it's so good and at the end of the show they would read jokes and he would read these the most offensive jokes and the guests would be like oh my God that's so offensive he's like oh my God who wrote this you know like so he would but he wrote it yeah you know so he would he found ways to like pass it off or um yeah he just got around it smart yeah do you feel like people have become softer now for comedy like they have to be a little bit more PC and a little bit more like appropriate for all ages I feel like people have gotten a little bit more uh you know sensitized to Comedy right now like when you watch Eddie Murphy back in like the 80s and 90s it's totally like you can't say a lot of that stuff today it's so it's so tough to say like I I know that there's an audience for it like when you go and you like um see like live stand up and you see somebody be go really out there like like Bill Burr or like Tom Segura somebody like that like there's they love it they love it people love the idea of going into a comedy club and like hearing something that even more so yeah now because they're like oh wow now we can like we're in this place where we can really say anything but I have noticed that like you know my younger friends like yeah there's there's a softness that's there um and you know you just I just try to I kind of like walk the balance I'm like okay like I understand you know you want to be that's you don't think that's funny but some people think this is funny so yeah it's tough and YouTube is different than stand up and it's different is different than podcasting and they're all they're all just so different you know there's stuff you can because you have the comments so if you want to say something that's like really insane on your podcast it's it could blow up in your face but in stand up you know that's what they're there to do they're there to really go out there and uh yeah I think with stand up two right now it's easy to take Clips without any context whatsoever yeah 60 second clip put it up so it's like what they said what yeah you know I I don't I I I I hate I hate I hate doing tick tocks like we did a video yesterday uh it was like another workout video and and Dave Portnoy had talked about me on his show uh BFFs and the first time he talked about me was when I was heavier and he was like the guy looks old he looks gross and which I thought was funny I was like oh that's cool I don't care they're talking about me I do look gross he said he looked like a mother or whatever and he was he was doing this whole bit where he was like I look way better than this guy you know it's a good impression which he does yeah how do you do that man and then he goes and then maybe like a year later I got in shape and they pulled my pictures up again and they were like Dave was like I think it looks weird I think he looks I think he said I look weird I think it looks strange a guy that old is all um and so like me and my friends were dying really and Josh Richards was like I think he looks good you know yeah you know Josh yeah and and uh so they were kind of talking about it and so I was I thought it was funny but that I was also kind of like yo that's [ __ ] up and that he talked about me twice in a negative light after I did all this work so then in the video which we put out yesterday I um I do this roast of him and the roast is pretty good like you know we wrote it and it's good roast and the people like the video whatever but then like this morning I had to the video we had to put out a tick tock like of of the roast but like I didn't really want to put that road that Tick Tock out yeah context yeah because someone's gonna go and just see that and be like oh [ __ ] Jason Nash it's Dave Portnoy you know yeah so it's I don't I don't love the internet in that regard I try to stay away from stuff like that but um because I love Dave Fortner and I'm not trying to and I don't like any kind of Internet beef or anything like that like I get some really stupid and I think it makes people look really dumb um and it it just you just drown each other out you know um but uh but yeah so yeah I don't like I don't like that I don't like clipping things and and taking things out of context like you said yeah I get that I think too I've had a few Clips taken to me yeah where it's like completely out of context you can make anything appear however you want it to appear basically with Clips but I'm sure you could also do it in a right way too of getting the right message across in 60 seconds where you could do the roast and like get a few good jokes in there but but add context in the beginning yes yes yes yes yes yes and add context in the beginning yeah which we did in one of the tick tocks but in one of them we didn't let's talk a little bit more about this YouTube Journey because let's do it you know you you were making 250k on Vine yeah you went to making nothing uh yes or I shouldn't say nothing just enough nothing because it was dead it was it was gone it was dead and gone and then after that you went to installing speakers making just a you know a modest living I'm sure doing that yeah and then all of a sudden this whole David thing happens he sees you at an improv bar three months later you're making 35k a month something like that yeah something like that yes four four five months later where'd you go from there I listened to Howard Stern and I remember that there was a guy on there who was his side guy his name was Jackie Martling and I remember listening to Howard and being like and Jackie left the show and and Howard was always like Jackie left he had such a good thing you know so that always stuck with me like so when I met David I I always thought like oh wow I have such a good thing here like you know like I love hanging out with them I love being with them I love making the videos so from there I just was like this is like a once in a lifetime uh lightning in a bottle situation that won't be around forever you know so let's just I'll do this for the next few years you know and um and he was so he was so um focused on it and stuff and I and I really needed uh to you know pay for my kids and stuff in my life so I was really focused on it so I wasn't into partying and he didn't drink either so we were just every day just trying to make that Vlog and and you know the the truth of it was is that his vlog did so well that that's why my Vlogs did well you know so I I didn't put so much effort into my Vlogs I would just uh just kind of like kind of slice a life my lifestyle stuff and then I put a lot of the focus on his Vlog because that seemed to be like the that was the thing that was trickle down feeding everything so I looked at it as being on like a TV show a little bit like is that TV show is doing well then I can go to anything I can go do stand up I can sell tickets I can sell Merch this might sound stupid but people on his Vlogs were they ever paid to be on the Vlogs or was it more so you get to appear but you'll we'll draw on such a big audience that that'll trickle over to everything none of the friends were ever paid and they were people that were paid to uh yeah there's things you would have to pay for like If you hired like an actor for something you know maybe we would pay them or they would pay them but no they were never paid but but also David never I know some people that take a cut and David never David never took money from anybody and he certainly could have asked yeah for that you know so I always felt like it was quite the fair trade um to go and film with him for you know a couple times a week and suddenly have like a huge Instagram to have a big Snapchat um I thought it was a pretty fair trade you know yeah and then what did a day look like in like a day of filming for you let's say like David's like Dave let's go let's go shoot something what time are you up like so fun what yeah oh so fun the most fun I've ever had in my life like just so incredibly fun like it would be like I mean the most fun was when he would be he would be like editing on he would post Monday Wednesday and Friday and he would post like Wednesday at five o'clock he'd be like he would be editing it like up to the wire and my Vlog would like already be out and then uh my man would he would post it would die what's that oh I thought you were gonna say your views would die oh no no no my piece would go My Views go your views go higher chairs we're just going straight to David it's the reverse no but he would post it and I would be around the corner at my computer and I would just want to watch it yeah and I would like turn on his wall and I would be at my computer he's in the other room and I would like start watching it and I'd be 30 seconds into the Vlog and he'd be in his jacket black baseball hat camera in his hand and he'd be like let's go and I'd be like oh man okay and then we'd go out and so there's no down time no no no Enjoy the moment so fun but doesn't he track the performance of each video and just see like how it's doing in relation to uh listen on his phone and look at it and Okay and like make me look at the comments or whatever and uh um yeah he would definitely track that work ethic though is incredible I remember he came to a party yeah that I was at this must have been 2018 something like that yeah yeah he showed up with his camera and I think you were not there but there were two other people with him he kind of looks around and then he leaves and I was talking to someone there and I said why did you leave like he walked in and left within a minute yeah as well there's probably no content like he needs content right now and yeah yeah he just he would go everywhere to scout for like what's gonna make the best story and what's gonna be like interesting to film and if it's not there like he's not just there to socialize like he wants something that he wants to put a piece together that he's really happy with yeah I think that was just for that's just time reasons he just needed to to get it we just needed to get it out like yeah three videos a week there's just I didn't realize it was three a week for some reason I was thinking it was once a week but yeah so like if you post Monday at five o'clock and you're trying to post Wednesday at five o'clock and you've really so now you have Monday night Tuesday and then you have to edit all day on Wednesday yeah and you're and you're not and you're out late Tuesday night so you're waking up at 11. well I'm not because I'm taking my kids to school but he's waking up at 11 and then he's uh uh yeah he's gonna edit all day so you really just have like Monday night and Tuesday to try to put together something funny and something it's so hard what was the idea creation like you know like anything we would just take anything from any anywhere and it seemed that the best ideas were the ones that were like just based in reality you know like sketches didn't really work we tried to do some sketches they weren't funny and just like and it we really would take for anything anything that we could think of or um good ideas were pretty hard to come by like towards the end there was just like I remember what he had he had a really really crazy idea once he he was just staring staring on the back of his uh house the sliding glass doors and his back was to me he just goes Jay I got it we're gonna bury you in the backyard I was just like which is like makes you feel all kinds of ways like the first way is like literally the first thing I thought was damn that's good and the second thing I thought was oh God I gotta get buried so then was that before or after Mr Beast got buried alive because I believe it was before I think that would have been before so he came up with the idea before Mr I think so well the way we did it was way different than Mr Beast in a way it's a different idea if this was I'm buried and there's something over my head and then if you pull up and everybody goes holy [ __ ] there's somebody buried in the ground Mr Beast is like really a testament to Mr Beast yeah you know like his fortitude uh so yeah so funny but that was good that was that was a great bin but the uh and I was fine but then after being buried underground for a while you the weight of the soil yeah really gets to you so that was really so they they I was like having them dig me out isn't it hard to breathe it's very hard to breathe like you do feel that pressure of just like you can't move yeah you're stuck now I was okay I was okay it's just I you just it just got Heavy after a while and then vardon would had to start to dig me out but he wasn't good with the shovel so he was like hitting me he's like I'll come get you Jason I'll save you I that's pretty good his voice his voice is different now yeah no it's it's deeper the voice is lower now wow yeah were you ever part of a really demanding bit like something that took a lot out of you demanding yeah demanding like it just required a lot of you like he was like oh we're gonna go fly over here shoot this thing you gotta do this Jason and you do it all and it's just like unused oh yeah there's lots of bits that you like would try to that that you try that didn't work it get unused there was there's so many there's so many what sticks out to you is is one of them I mean maybe like getting shot with a paintball gun and it doesn't make it something like that it's like kind of painful but I'm pretty good with pain like uh honestly the hardest stuff is uh like flying somewhere um in no no like taking an a lot like uh it's it's eight it's it's eight o'clock and he's like oh we're gonna go see Mr Beast in the morning we're taking an 11 o'clock flight to North Carolina we're driving two hours to see Mr Beast and then we're flying home that night that's honestly the hardest because I just like a family I got a family and I can't sit on a plane and it's a lot heavier than and like your back yeah I'm old so like your back like hurts on a plane and I I don't know yeah there was that's probably the hardest a trip you went on with your ex and you went to Hawaii right yeah and uh yeah that's a great bit enjoying your time in on the island you know it's a it's a lovely place I'm sure you're having a nice relaxing time and then someone shows up and shoots you with a paintball gun right yeah yeah that was that was awesome what was going through your head on that because you weren't actually expecting that to happen right I think he took me to the airport and he was like he took her to the airport and he's like if I how did it go oh I do you remember I don't remember I think it was something like I'm gonna come to Hawaii and shoot you with a picture be fine with that if I showed up in Hawaii or or maybe she wanted to see him or something like that or I don't remember what it was but like if I showed up would you be would you be fine with that and you offhandedly said yeah yeah because you didn't think you would actually do it yeah yeah yeah I would always say yes to stuff for the possibility that it could happen it's the same thing with the marriage thing yeah um uh but yeah and then he um I remember I was in the hotel and I got a phone call like hey we want to send a gift basket oh I know what it was I he said I want to send a gift basket what room are you in someone random called me yeah and right then I was like hmm like no one's sending me a gift basket hotel in Hawaii and uh so then I was just like somehow I oh he didn't know where I was he didn't know what hotel I was at he just knew I was he he hacked my I know how he did it yeah he hacked my Snapchat and found my location that was how that was what was so great about it I can't believe I don't remember this but yeah he hacked my Snapchat somehow found my location knew I was at this hotel now he needed the room number he needed the exact room number so then he had someone call I have a gift basket and I say 688. and then as soon as I said 688 I was like oh no and then I heard a knock at the door yeah the writing was on the wall yeah great bit yeah yeah yeah it was really awesome what's great about those bits too is they weren't faked yeah you know they're they're they're they're they're not faked at all I mean there's there's things that um maybe if like someone said if if we're filming and you said a line that was like really funny but the camera wasn't on like we like would redo lines and stuff but none of those pranks are like that's 100 real like when Jonah got the movie deal when Brandon thought there was an earthquake when they they got me on Hollywood Boulevard um there was a bunch of guys dressed in Elmo that started like chasing me that was all real like I I was they got me so all that stuff's real which is cool how many times do you shoot down ideas though or just like hey that's a I'm not down for that is there anything that you just like put your foot down on yeah there's there's stuff that you just you just like say no about you're just like that that's not gonna be I don't want to do that you just say no that's it you know and then he and then I would pitch him lots of ideas that he would say no too um that he just didn't think were funny he was the ultimate um he would be the ultimate decider in the end my favorite video I have to say is a Tesla video where you jumped it on that one that was a recent one oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was my personal favorite video oh yeah that was funny all the copycats afterwards and that one card do you see that I saw that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of copycats yeah you saw that one right yeah you got like 10 feet in the air I was like what are you doing yeah he ate it like the car crashed in another car gosh I think after that they uh they put like a police car there for a while wow did they yeah it's a crazy slope yeah have you ever been there no it's just an insane you know California is so funny that the people that haven't been here don't understand it's just Mountains and the the way that the street goes up the street basically just goes up yeah and down and um but yeah that wasn't David driving the car yeah yeah um but yeah that was that was good that was a good one there's lots of them you can go on and on about them they're they're it was really the most fun fun I ever had and then you had a podcast with him as well you guys got the views behind views yeah and that was going on for a long time like yeah it was great early in the podcast yeah yeah yeah great guests yeah with fantastic guests yeah but was what was interesting to me is that like I noticed you guys created the podcast and then all of the sudden everybody else started creating them and I will say this much I've never said this before views podcast was a huge motivator and it inspired me to uh to ideate the iced coffee oh that's great yes it was that's I thought we started around the same was it no no no because I would go on the runs in Santa Monica and I would listen to views podcasts yep and I just thought it was so fun that you guys were just hanging out with your friends and just like yeah yeah yeah talking shots yeah it was it was awesome and so I was like oh telling a podcast sounds kind of fun and I feel like podcasts are great because the audience connects with people on a different level yeah yeah and I felt really connected to you guys sure the Vlogs because I felt like I was getting an inside look to your guys's lives and everything but sure it was a little bit more staged and then the um not staged but like yeah meditating sure sure but the the podcast was so raw and so genuine and it also validated a lot of the the conceptions that I had from the Vlog yeah and it really made me feel like I know you guys I knew you guys and from that point I was like I was like Graham needs to connect more with his audience I think he and I have some pretty funny banter yeah fun to have a podcast that's great the the the the thing about the podcast that I like so much was that that he was making the Vlog at the same time so there was um as hard as it was to do a podcast too because there's just one more thing we had to do but there was so much to talk about it was so great like it was just so easy you could be like they saw the video that day of whoever he was with let's say he was with like Justin Bieber that day and then that night he could say like he could tell you a little bit more about what happened when he shot it or so I I love that I mean it was it was really really fun to do um I don't think we'll ever do it again why is that I just um I don't want to speak for him but he just doesn't like doing it he doesn't like doing it he's just not into it that's totally fine he's just not into it like I and you know it's fair I honestly I did prefer it in the old like like I would just do the audio anyways well yeah we did once once you release the video we did too um I I would just like consume it with just the audio and then once you guys switch to the video yeah and then had like the super nice set which I liked in the beginning yeah but then I I honestly preferred it where it was just like all you guys yeah that was me too for me that's what most people like it was on the couch episodes on here I tried a couple video episodes yeah yeah they didn't and they they were great but they I he um he didn't like how it looked it's just another logistical challenge as well whereas recording audio is just very much simpler yeah and I respect David for that like he just doesn't want to he's like I don't want to do it anymore and I was like okay cool you know he just told me and that's it and I still thought man it was fun part of me was hoping it would come back I know I know it would I would love to do it I just think we're all like um they're all getting older you know and they're just I don't know they just don't have the need to do it there's not there's not as much to talk about I I think you make things to talk about yeah like I'm sure your life is still just as exciting as it as it was during the other times in different capacities you just have to look for it yeah there's just less funny stuff going on and that was probably what was interesting about the podcast you know it was just like there was so many funny things that were happening and now we're just kind of like ah let's hang out go to the movies the end of the podcast was it something that kind of just phased out or was it a conversation that was that happened where it was like yeah we're gonna stop this yeah it was just like as it was as it was going on we could just kind of see like oh it just didn't it just wasn't the same and how do you justify it people grow people change you know like he's a he's a young guy he's 26 I think so you know he's just like people change I'm sure Graham is thinking this how do you justify stopping something that's probably extremely lucrative yeah and seemingly a net benefit on all capacities right like it helps like keep the fan base like excited to hear more about you and your engagement up and you're putting more content out there it's probably making good money how do you justify just stopping something like that Dave you want to take this one uh no I don't I don't know he I like uh hmm well like money isn't everything right and also if you have a commitment to like a certain level of quality and you can't meet that quality then um you have to stop um and I'm sure you guys I will do this podcast for a set amount of time and that's everything in life everything in life is a set amount of time nothing lasts forever um and uh you know at one point you guys will go yeah why don't we break you're gonna do you're gonna do the podcast for more than 10 years this one I don't know it depends yeah in my mind I think automatically five to ten years uh just like right off the bat like yeah that's yeah that's great yeah that's great and and uh and so I think that we we reached a point where the quality was not where we wanted it to be and you guys might you know I don't know I think I don't know I kind of lost my train of thought I wish I wish I wish it was I wish it was was still going I really do but it's not I have a deep level of respect for for the content you guys put out because every single thing was a banger every video yeah yeah every clip every podcast everything was so so good and I think that's why he stopped because he felt the because if the value if he wasn't gonna put out a banger then he's not gonna do it that's the thing and and I would say that has been I I was very impressionable to that yeah and I still feel similarly I Graham and I have this debate every once in a while where I'm like if we don't have a good episode to post on a Sunday I don't want to post it I want to make sure everything we put out there people like we are giving so many reasons for people to watch this content that's great it's educational it's entertaining it is like maximum value possible in every measurable way like I am very much that I want everything to be perfect and Grandma's like we gotta keep up with the schedule yeah if we post our like we people are expecting us to post it very much you need both I agree you definitely need both I think I was the year David and you're me I was kind of like Dave we got a post we got to do the Pod this week we got ads and he'd be like oh I don't really want to but but yeah you gotta have both and you you have to be consistent too so you mentioned that your finances are a bit of a wreck yeah I want to hear about this uh well but you know I'm just like not the best okay with money how so what do you mean by that I don't know it's just like uh I just pay I just give give away a lot of money I just have a lot of people in my life that I that I pay do you just give them money or like an exchange of service employees or like I have employees I have kids basically okay yeah that's it yeah give your kids a lot of money ah my son has my Postmates oh I learned the other day that he has he's had my credit card for a while and I was like oh right right right you didn't notice the charges you look at your statements uh I would notice it if it was higher than I expected yeah I don't look at we order from the same places so I wouldn't even oh yeah but yeah I should I should watch that but yeah finances suck I hate money money's like so ugh I hate it isn't why I don't know because it's just like when you have it you just want to like give it to everybody and then when you don't have it you're like man I wish I had more money you know what I mean so it just kind of comes and goes and then like YouTube is um things are going good now but there's it definitely like goes up and down it's insane yeah yeah where do you think you spend the most amount of money my mortgage okay I guess you got a nice place it's okay it's it looks it looks it has a nice view but it's very small um and I think the Market's got down I think I think it's when did you buy it 2019 oh you wanted a good time yeah I did yeah what interest rate I don't know you don't know they have no idea 30-year mortgage you don't yeah something like that I really don't know do you have someone that takes care of your finances like a financial planner manager um uh my 14 year old daughter looks at no I don't know uh no I I don't I don't I yeah I have somebody I have somebody okay in New York that does it yeah that's good yeah but I don't like to get on the phone with them because I don't like to hear about it what if it's good news what if it's like hey you're investing I know it's not good right now it's not good yes right the markets are they're down about 20 as long as you're steadily investing you'll be fine yeah so put more money in it's just Cat every every month just a little bit put a little in every month yeah oh I haven't been doing that I just stopped just just you wouldn't even tell them to do that well I put a bunch of money in yeah and then everything went down and I was like all right I did the same I'm [ __ ] not doing that again do you know what you invested in no you don't know oh they do it it's like Morgan Stanley or something okay yeah they do it okay and you tell them like here's my risk tolerance here's what like my goal is uh no I haven't talked about that can we call them now yeah you should yeah I should call Alma right now you should probably get on a call yeah yeah hey how are these Investments doing what are you invested in is that I don't want to know you don't want to know because I know I've lost so much already it'll just bump me out ignorance maybe there's a way that they could just like tell you without like you can't take it with you Graham you know what I mean you can't take it with it you can though if you're going to 50 states you have 50 states to take no I mean when you die you can't but that's not for a very long time are you gonna be buried with your money I mean that might be kind of cool just cash out how much money do you think Mr Beast has oh gosh um or like because right I've heard he has very little money in his personal bank account uh because he doesn't spend anything like he he spends very little anything he spends is just for instance he doesn't make sense he has no money in his personal bank account right because he doesn't spend anything correct but everything's not for the videos like I'm separating personal from business if we're talking about just him so he's had it all in the company pretty much everything in the company uh and it truly seems like he doesn't spend money on anything that's not related to YouTube if he cashed out of everything though sold his channel sold all his businesses I bet you he could probably get like a billion bucks a bill probably I think he probably could yeah a bill that's sick yeah yeah and he doesn't do anything outside of making the videos right he's always a chocolate festival yeah feastable he has a ton of stuff he does chocolate merch he's got of course yeah yeah I believe well not the main Channel I've heard the main channel is The Lost leader that gets people in does not make money he makes money in the gaming and the reacts videos okay um because he gives away a lot on the philanthropy Channel um I think the philanthropy channel is net zero right is this do you guys do like Spanish language Channel on YouTube no you don't do that yet someone call me about that you don't do it yeah no no I don't do it they called me and they were like all set to go and then they're like okay it's gonna cost you twenty thousand dollars I'm like oh I thought you're gonna do it for free you should be like and then pesos yeah yeah and split the revenue but it yeah I'm trying to I'm always trying to think of ways to make money right I haven't thought anything Mr Beast makes a decent amount from his different language channels that's what I was gonna say yeah but I think you really got it like for his content so perfect for it like Iraq would be another one because you could you could watch that in any language yeah get the joke and the humor and like the challenge yeah uh I feel like with our content it's very U.S yeah English speaking oriented that like other cultures might not be able to pick up I love I love Instagram sketches that can play in any country yeah like Adam W does a lot of cool sketches and is like oh this is funny no matter where you are right that's why people are really cool cobby lame got so popular is because it's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah it's interesting too because Mr Beast combined like he had all the different language channels yeah I heard you combined them all back into his main Channel and now you could dub videos like one video could appear in multiple languages dub which depending on where it's shown so you don't need multiple channels anymore which seems odd to me that they would be able to like you the YouTube algorithm would be able to separate like this person is in Mexico watching this Mr Beast video it's going to be dubbed automatically and we're going to show them like a different thumbnail oh I don't know how so like the video goes out and if I'm in Mexico it's in Spanish yeah like you know on Netflix when you click a video you can choose which language you wanted to play in yeah same thing with the Mr Beast video now oh so there's no need to have a different Channel no oh so you don't make as much money uh he would just it would instead of it being on different channels it would all go to his one channel oh got it yeah I don't know how the algorithm is able to like differentiate between that though like where someone is based what language they're watching maybe they'd prefer to watch an English video versus like Portuguese or I want to know your motivation behind starting the new podcast what's the reason behind that um well I really like podcasting I think it's really fun and um any views was done so I was like okay I'll start my own podcast just try it out see if I like it you like it yeah I like it I think it's good I mean it's um I like I like doing views better it was like more fun and easier but I like doing it myself um it's um getting gas is tough yeah that's the hardest part for us as well yeah so we're we're trying to I'm trying to make it more like views now with just more friends and stuff because that seems to be what people like anyway what was your hard part about getting guests because I would imagine you could reach out to anybody and say hey do you want to come on they'd be like yeah I mean like just scheduling and stuff like we've had like really big guests cancel and like um uh and we've gotten some big ones like we got like Phineas to come on we got that's Danny DeVito we got chili bun we got Dane Cook did it TJ Miller you know it's it's uh it's fun it's great to talk to like really interesting people like it's really fun and then it's also fun just to have your friends on and like talk about what's going on so I mean I'm trying to do I'm trying to make it more like views now where it's like more just my friends because that seems to be what people really like on the channel it's it's interesting when you have Danny DeVito on and then like your your episode with your buddy Todd like does it better than the Danny DeVito episode you know what I mean so it's like okay it's weird how sometimes it works that way yeah it's crazy interested in but the the YouTube audience is probably more interested in you guys yeah Danny DeVito right David said that to me too when I started the podcast I was like I was flying to see Nikki Glaser in St Louis to podcast with her because she lives there and he was like he's like I don't know if your audience is gonna you know like want to hear Nikki Glaser or whatever and and and I was like no I know but I I have to try to do something different you know then and then we went Nikki was great and then that episode did pretty good but then you go and you like interview David's assistant and that does just as just as good if not better it actually does way better honestly part of me is beginning to realize it's a very YouTube centered audience and if you don't Focus to like what people want in that platform you're gonna watch it yeah yeah but then you know you also have to do what you like yeah and the chance to talk to Danny DeVito is incredible yeah I know I would do that and so that that came in uh and it was like he needed to do it the next day so we went down there and we did it and it was awesome like when you talk to people who are like that high level it's so freaking eye-opening and it's so inspiring like you know to talk to Phineas and to understand like how he wrote bad guy and to know like I don't know I just love all that stuff I love talking to people I love learning and so yeah I find that stuff really interesting what did you learn about Danny DeVito Danny I love Matilda by the way that was one of my favorite movies as a kid do you see that I learned that I saw him until was he in it yeah he was the father in Matilda oh what that was him yes oh I learned I learned that this is a guy who was an actor in New York just kind of like kicking around got in um one pull over to Cuckoo's Nest which was like a really big movie in the 70s and then he got Taxi and taxi was you know back then there was no cable show that was like that was in 40 million homes I mean that was like Mr Beast you know uh every week and he's just like from there was just became this massive massive star and like a comedy expert you know somebody that's just like if you if you watch him on Sunny like just so hits the Beats like knows how to um no he knows how to like play like an edgy guy you know he has like an edge about him and he's just like a master just just to just to talk to him and on that level that somebody knows about comedy like that it's like it's like the best way to spend your day yeah you know learn something from him I think for me Jack Black would be that person would be a girl I would yeah I think I've reached out to him on Instagram like three times yeah he's some he's a master he's a freaking man have you ever watched Tenacious D yes like he's very talented you've never seen him it's like a religious experience it's like so good and his voice is really good um yeah he's incredibly talented yeah I don't I don't see him on too many podcasts no and I was so excited when he made his YouTube channel yeah he makes some really good content it's funny and I love the Vlogs they're just like with him and his kids yeah like I loved that yeah I just stopped posting yeah he made a really funny skateboard video where he just goes around giving people skateboards it's on his YouTube channel yeah and he also plays video games too right jablinski games yeah yeah he's just killing it I was loved he doesn't need to come to a podcast no he's good yeah yeah well maybe one day for the iced coffee hour Jack I'm not gonna give off hope yet put some music under this Jack come see Graham do his podcast come on please please he dm'd you three times a fourth time it's going to be embarrassing for all of us thank you Jason yeah for the kids I want to also talk about relationship advice yeah because you oh yeah I I I've got a whole new thing on relationships I would love to hear about it I got it I finally figured it out you did took me 49 years I figured it out what'd you figure out you gotta if you're in a relationship you you gotta just be on top of it in every minute in every way you gotta like provide support say yes to everything never say no and build a fairy tale land that's it that's it that's all it takes yeah because when I was married before I used to like argue with my ex-wife I'd be like I don't want to do that and then you're dead right there you're done what if you don't want to do it though well then you don't you know don't be with that person so you're just you're saying like find someone with similar values and interests you gotta find somebody exactly like you this opposites attracts [ __ ] you don't believe it it's [ __ ] Opposites Attract it's so stupid two opposite people together of course they're gonna fight I think the advantage those you get a dynamic of like you know one person I was like moving forward you know you have someone that disagrees with you oh no it's the worst you want to disagree all the time that's terrible they have to provide a different perspective on things no no you want somebody going you're right I'm telling you that's the secret you really think that that's the secret yeah I just figured it out I got I met I met my fiance in July I got engaged in December we're the same person we agree on everything she says you want to do something I say yes that's it there's no there's never any oh also this is super key don't don't this is gonna sound really corny and kind of like some anti this is going to sound I don't know however it sounds I don't care you gotta watch your language and I don't mean like swear words you got to watch how you say things it's super super important even like you talk about yourself maybe you say like uh podcast with graham wasn't good like I wasn't funny or stuff like that don't say that [ __ ] don't don't even say it out loud just be positive just be like she goes how's the podcast it was great that's it like just be super positive all the time like or even like when you're like phrasing things to the woman like be careful how you say things like phrase it in the right way like uh try to think an example like I I don't have a great example but like I don't I don't I don't want to go there like don't don't say that be like oh maybe like tomorrow would be better that is the secret you know what I'm thinking babe that's a great one you know what I'm thinking babe and also also like mirror them like like be like say nice things be like babe I was thinking about what you said that's killer that's killer right away anyone loves to hear that yeah either sex hey I was thinking about what you said the other day about this and X Y and Z and maybe tomorrow is a better day to go rug shopping what do you think like that rather than like I don't want to go [ __ ] rob shopping today yeah like and and I and I'm not like saying this to be funny I'm saying it because I actually just learned it and I'm embarrassed that I learned it so late in life but like but like or like you go out to a bar with a woman like guys don't know this [ __ ] they're so stupid you go out to a bar with your woman you [ __ ] take care of your woman babe what do you want to drink do you do that do I do I do that I really go out to bars with girls oh you don't have a girlfriend or anything no oh do you yeah okay do you do that Beyonce fiance do you do that sometimes it depends what it is we never go to the bar anyway it's rare it's rare okay and if we do if we do go to the bar it's always the sit down sort of place where the con like a server comes like what would you like but the point is is that you Gotta Be You Gotta Be constantly outputting same way you're outputting this podcast you gotta constantly be like little things babe I picked up peanut M M's for you today because I know that you love peanut and you know whatever it is like she's allergic to peanuts oh [ __ ] we just I'm kidding now I just say that uh or or just just I mean I don't know that that's what I think is okay you have to keep it it feels like that's to agreeable I mean because where's the where's the friction I feel like there's got to be some sort of okay I disagree with that that doesn't have to be friction but you also just can't like you can't just like be a yes like you got to be real with them like if they want to go rug shopping and you're like the anti-rug Shopper you just gotta say like you know what I've had bad experiences in the past I don't want to go rug shopping I'm sorry go with the four or you say how about this babe tomorrow you should go shopping no because you got such a good eye well then I then I feel like well I guess for me maybe this advice isn't great because the spice only works for me because I love to be with her no matter what even though even though I may not want to go rug shopping I'm going to be with her so and she'll make it fun you know what I mean no like so that that's that's how I look at things maybe don't take this advice but I'm telling you you can just skip through a lot of problems if you're just agreeable um that's what I think I don't like friction because like friction the problem with friction is like she says this and you say this and now you're like maybe kind of joking but then someone says something else and then someone's feelings are hurt and now you're not joking anymore right and now you're fighting and then you're like what what happened like I thought we were joking so I don't even do that I don't even joke I don't even I don't know I don't even make jokes I just I just go like because I do think she's one that wonderful I'm like oh my God I can't believe what a princess I have today I mean are you kidding I've never seen somebody so gorgeous because I do believe that yeah you know and so maybe maybe my advice doesn't work for everybody but but but find somebody that you're that crazy how did you guys meet um a dating app okay what dating app no she's gonna kill me for saying that I don't think she likes that what app was it all right babe uh Jackson all of them but I don't think that's a big deal it's a big deal no I don't see no problem with it no I know but I mean some people have like a stigma I honestly I used to be one of those guys I'm not going to meet my girl in a dating app but like I've since abandoned I've since abandoned that I'm just like yeah it doesn't matter well I mean it's pretty it's pretty good I mean you're sitting on your couch you met the love of your life you know of course you have to go on a hundred dates of horribleness what was the intro on the app did you say the first message um do you remember what that first message was yeah um no I don't know what I said I don't have the app anymore this is a long time ago this is like two years ago okay but then we were we were uh we weren't like together for the last two years she moved but then she came back into town and now we're together and cool um I probably just said something really terrible I'm terrible at texting that was the other thing that I learned is that I'm just like really bad so it's Jack Jack what's up yeah how are you but not only that but Jack will go like a week or two and just stop responding and then hit them back up like three weeks later out of the blue like hey what are you up to uh but it'll be that long Silence of just like nothing happens and then like you don't get busy you things come up and you can't always be super attentive to it I feel like yeah it's so hard it's so hard to to figure out if you're gonna waste time on this person yeah so your your solution is just to be agreeable to do what they want to always be pleasing them to treat them like a goddess yes now as long as they're treating you well yeah so it when I say that I'm getting a ton in return I'm getting you know really thoughtful stuff coming my way too so it's just as simple as that it's like hey babe I made you a salad and I'm just like oh my God I think there's something to be said about being more positive yeah I could definitely I agree I could be a stick in the mud sometimes if I don't want to do something I'm just like you see it you see it on my face you feel it it's just like feel it if you feel it emanates into the room yeah everyone in the room just can tell yeah that's what I love about her is she won't allow any kind of um a negativity she just won't allow it she has this thing called the meaning report and uh she keeps it in her phone and if I do do something that's sort of mean she will write me up she'll write me up she will write me up in the meaning report what does that mean well like the other day we were driving and I got I got I got like really mad because this woman like cut me off and like my windows were up but I said the B word you know I was like oh my God that's good [ __ ] [ __ ] like that she was just like she pulled out her phone and she's like oh my gosh like I hate to do this but I'm putting you on the media report so she wrote it out the time and everything and and then I begged her to take me off the media report and uh she would not and uh and that goes right to my mom it goes through she text her mom the meeting report will go to my mom yeah yeah so what is your mom February 22nd 222 Jason called someone the b word sounds like that could be taken out of context so much in case it's just called this lady the b word the windows were rolled up and she was acting she was driving horribly she was being uh she was but do you keep a meanie report back a text heard I told her hey I was gonna have an annoying report because when she annoys me she said it wasn't allowed I don't know no it's no [ __ ] with that I'm I'm like I'm embellishing she only did that once that was the other day she made a media report and she didn't send it to my mom but she did threaten to send it if I if I do that again yeah I think that's really nice I'm a huge fan of just positive you got to be positive I think it's a good good thing yeah I think about Graham is yeah he can sometimes be a little bit of a negative person one thing I realized I had this like aha moment we were driving yesterday and Graham was what did you say you're like oh this traffic is horrendous yeah horrible or something like that I'm like or it was going to be impossible oh yeah to cross Fairfax at rush hour traffic yeah yeah it's 5 p.m it's gonna be a nightmare to cross I made a turn that would inevitably make us cross Fairfax and Graham was like oh it's gonna be a night it's gonna be impossible to cross Fairfax of this because it was right before the light at Melrose and getting all the backup of cars right and I look at ground it's like impossible what do you think I am if it's possible to cross Fairfax like this this word is just so really funny aggressive you know what I mean like yeah and I realized because my brother does the same thing my mom always gets mad at him because he says like I I went to go get a taco at the Taco Shack I had to wait in line it was miserable and my mom's like you were miserable really were you actually miserable yeah and that's the thing Graham does he just uses like the most aggressive words in certain that's what I'm saying choose your words like oh this weather is so depressing it's just depressing yeah it's just rainy and you may not like it you know what I mean I like this weather though I like this weather too you were just telling me you hated the rain literally when you walked in here you walked in here and the first thing he says camera equipment the first thing he said was like I hate this rain no I said it was horrible oh I said it was horrible but it was only because I'm carrying camera equipment from the car over the house and it was getting wet everything's getting I don't know I was loving it like even my drive over here I was super scary because the visibility was nearly like I was driving from Ventura and that whole 101 is just really sketchy yeah I was loving it you know what I mean yeah you turn a negative situation or just don't use such aggressive words aggressive words like this that's exactly what I mean like that that exact example of like choosing your words it's like it just for yourself yeah never mind him obviously it'd be great for him if you don't use those words but even for yourself yes I agree um like I had a video I posted yesterday and like it's not doing great but I was just like someone asked me how I was doing it that's great living in like a fairy tale rather than going like it's doing fine but rather being like yeah yeah it could have been bitter that yeah I would have said like it was horrendous yeah it was a disaster yeah Grandpa's a video it does poorly he's like oh I feel horrible right now my day is ruined right now I'm just like yeah and my day is I was like I was having a great day like you know what I mean like come on let's let's bring the vibe up a little bit let's have a good time I'm prone to it too like yeah I'll be driving in traffic with my fiance and I'll be like God traffic and she'll go she'll go I like it she goes it's it's more time we get to spend together lovely like that you know and you're just like that's good yeah you mean you kind of want to punch her in the face but I'm just kidding just kidding um pull the car over but no but that it's really nice and that's why all my friends love her so much because she's just like that's good she's just so positive and and uh yeah you know what the funny part was he said that once we made that turn to pull off and like I said eventually we were going to have to cross Fairfax we made the turn to cross Fairfax and there was a light there was a light I didn't even have to wait for the traffic like it was just the light hit red for them really we just cruised across and I look at him with the smuggish little smile I'm telling you that stuff works manifesting stuff or trying we were going to see um my mom flew out to to go to the 80 for Brady Premiere which is like a Tom Brady movie and we really really wanted her to meet Tom Brady like that's her Idol my mom's like 80 years old and we were in the we were in the car on the way over and I just said to everybody I was just like okay I was like let's let's just let's just put Positive Vibes out we're gonna meet Tom Brady and everybody in the car was like we're gonna meet Tom Brady we're gonna meet Tom Brady we're gonna be Tom Brady we just kept saying it and saying and saying it and then it happened how'd that happen uh we wait we waited we waited we have 45 minutes but it was really fun to wait because we paid five thousand dollars um but yeah I mean like you know it's really it's really important to like I I you gotta be positive you gotta just remember that that's all you have you know that's awesome and in manifesting stuff I think like I think there is something to it like things like I did this thing with Harry jousy like about a year ago and all the things we wrote down came true what'd you write down I wrote down I want my ideal I want to get in shape I wrote down I want to meet the love of my life I wrote down and those two things happened I wrote down I want to meet Dave Chappelle I want to have dinner with Dave Chappelle and you do that no but two days later I met Jim Carrey that's oh wow really just randomly and I tell you randomly it was standing on the red carpet for the Sonic the Hedgehog 2. and uh so yeah this car pulls up and Jim Carrey gets out of the car and we're like oh [ __ ] that's Jim Carrey and then he just like locks eyes with us and he just walks like right over to us and he's just like hi I'm Jim it was just like weird how cool is that so cool I love Jim Carrey and uh so I don't know I just I just believe it I just believe that it's even if it's like not true it still puts you in the the right put you in the game yeah you know puts you in the game for good things to happen that is because people love people people love positive people nobody wants to be around like negativity and nobody needs it they got their own [ __ ] they're dealing with smile and move on right yeah well uh do we have anything else I don't think so is there anything else you wanted to mention no no cool no well thank you so much my podcast go check out my YouTube channel what else it'll all be linked Down Below in the description okay cool all right thanks for having me thanks so much I really appreciate it until next time guys