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The Smartphone could Dissolve into Agentic AI by 2030

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The evolution of internet bots from benign tools in the late 1990s to sophisticated financial algorithms and later, psychometric profiling engines has set the stage for a radical shift by 2030. Initially used for harmless greetings or map notifications, bots quickly advanced to trading faster than humans and manipulating public sentiment through targeted social media attacks. This progression culminated in the emergence of "hyper reality," where AI, virtual reality, and simulation technologies began to blur the lines between digital and physical experiences. The recent explosion of large language models like GPT has accelerated this trend, creating a natural interface for humans to interact with systems trained on vast corpora of data, effectively enhancing human knowledge and interaction fidelity in unprecedented ways. By 2030, the current structure of the internet is expected to dissolve as individual app icons and digital boxes merge into singular, comprehensive AI agents that act as personal extensions of the user. These agents will possess two core functionalities: storing and querying detailed information about their owners, and actively performing tasks on their behalf, such as booking flights or ordering groceries without human intervention. This transformation represents a profound threshold where humans can delegate significant portions of their digital lives to an entity that completely understands them. However, this shift also promises to create a deep socioeconomic divide between those who enhance themselves with these agents and those who do not, fundamentally altering the nature of internet traffic as it becomes dominated by autonomous agents completing actions rather than human users browsing content. Despite the dominance of AI agents, a distinct segment of the internet will likely remain reserved for verified human interaction, creating a "border wall" between bot-saturated spaces and organic human communities. The vast majority of open internet traffic, which is currently overrun by bot swarms generating propaganda and spam, may effectively die out as it becomes unusable for genuine human connection. In contrast, a curated space will emerge where users must verify their identity to ensure they are interacting with real people rather than synthesized profiles. This human-only zone will serve as a sanctuary for authentic exploration and connection, while AI agents will continue to operate in the background, summoning specialized digital twins or experts to assist users in navigating complex topics like regenerative communities or technical repairs based on content they encounter.
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So yeah, bots really took over around 2015. started, you know, it used to be very um benign because I remember even back in my day in 1998, 2000, you know, we used to have bots, but bots were very benign and they would, you know, just say hello to new gamers coming onto servers and >> like let gamers know that there's a new game that's opening up for them to um >> a new custom map within the game that's opening up for players to go and play in and stuff. So it used to be very very benign and you could of course program them to say mean things every five minutes and stuff like that. there were some funny ass things around >> played around with. Um, and then like forward fast forward like you know 10 years later to 2010 and I'm talking to people in San Francisco in the Bay Area about um how they've made financial bots. >> Mhm. >> And how financial bots are um the hottest thing because they're the ones that are trading significantly better and significantly faster than humans can. >> Yeah. Fast forward like five years later and we're talking now we have psychometric profiles of people from their social media >> accounts and now we have bots that are specifically targeting um the those psychometric profiles and making them rage harder or um hate the other party or hate a country or hate a political leader >> or whatever that kind of stuff. Then fast forward 5 years after that and we start having more and more of of the honestly the the best way to describe it is the it's basically hyper reality is really the best way to describe it. It's kind of like the birth of hyper reality, which is um like where where AI, VR, and simulation technology just it really starts to creep in. So, it's the birth of hyper reality. I'm not saying it's 2030 where hyper reality is very strong, but I'm saying it's the birth of it. And a lot of people can't see it yet, but um the birth of that it exploded with how quickly um uh uh GPT the emergence of pro was, you know, probably the most one of the most important emergences of of anything that's ever happened, including fire and the internet and >> the wheel >> and the printing address and stuff like that. So, >> um because now humans have a natural interface to be able to talk to something that's trained on the entire corpus and to get back instantaneous results from it to further enhance their knowledge and things like that. So, >> move with more fidelity in the world. >> Correct. So now fast forward another 5 years and we're at arguably the probably the death the beginning of the death of the internet, let's say, because bots are now everywhere. >> Yeah, >> bots are everywhere. You're always talking to bots. Bots are calling you. bots are every out of every comment that you see. If you go to your inbox on your x.com or your LinkedIn or your um Instagram or whatever social profile, you can see that there's a fuckload of just straight up bots that are trying to talk to you, trying to sell you [ __ ] that are >> to just sometimes they're just bots and sometimes they're bots dressed in human skins with fake names and, you know, synthesized human profiles or, you know, pictures of real people, but you know, >> but it's a bot. >> It's a bot. So now um this is really the beginning of the death of the internet in the sense that um 5 years from now in 2030 like we were saying before we started recording that everyone is going to have AI agents and those AI agents are going to be the primary thing that's on the internet that's doing anything on behalf of people. So all all internet traffic will be AI agents. All um an AI agent will have two core functionalities. One of them will be to um store data and information about you that you can then query and get you can get that information about yourself. So you you had reflected earlier that that's going to be a profound threshold for consciousness because either people will jump in with both feet and they'll be like, "Yes, please. I would like to have a full-time AI agent that I work with that completely knows me." And I mentioned to you that literally every it's beautifully 11:11 p.m. right now. It's beautifully that every single box that's on your cell phone screen right now, all of those boxes are going to dissolve into a single AI agent, which is a profound realization and revelation. It's only August of 2025, but I project that within early 2027 or something like that that we should start to see the boxes dissolving into singular AI agents that people can completely commit to completely knowing them and everything about them >> or not if they people choose not to do this. And that will be yes a very strong divide between people. But the even stronger divide between people will be the socioeconomic divide between people. That will be the even stronger one. But those two will um spiral together and socioeconomic and whether you're enhancing yourself with AI agents or not. Now Mhm. Now um one of the core functionalities of the AI agents will be that you can write you can you can store information and then you can query it. So that's one core one. Now the other one is to write or act. Now writing or acting onto the internet is um a more difficult task that is currently being built. Mhm. >> Um, right now it's a lot easier for me to make an AI technology, which is something that we're currently building as home >> with time creator >> where it's easy to ingest a fuckload of information about somebody. Turn that into an oracle. Have that always be listening to them. Have that be able to you can query it and say that, hey, give me the top three insights from this 5day period that I've had with Rockwell. Boom. spits you out those three insights. Like I told you, the harder thing is to have that AI, that same AI that gave you those three profound insights that were just amazing and you didn't have to do [ __ ] No clicking the record button, no taking notes, no none of that [ __ ] >> Just your extension. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Your memory extension. >> Yes. Yes. So the harder thing is then saying that okay those three profound insights let's turn them into a a 4minute video online a profound 4-minute video online that's that's sharing those three profound insights >> and then also turn them into five >> vertical reels that get put on YouTube shorts and Instagram and Tik Tok and X and blah blah blah. So, so now the um that right that right action of the AI to be able to basically like >> in a sense kind of split itself into your task. So, it splits its cog like its cognition. It retains itself fully as an AI agent, but it splits its cognition to go and complete that task for you. >> Yes. So it'll spit you back after 5 minutes that I've completed that task and I'm you know I'm back but the part it'll still the other part that that this part that's split to compute that task will go and do that but you'll always still have your that >> yeah it'll still be there. It's still there. >> It's not. >> Yeah. So now um >> but it's interesting because one is regurgitating the information that is profound that's that seems to be the easy part and then the hard part for it is the actual creating >> right but it's also not just regurgitating >> no okay it's it's yeah >> placed in the nuance of what you think is >> profound >> and not always that that's only one way that I typically that I typically query Y it other other beings will query in all kinds of different ways and a lot of the time it won't be um regurgitate but yes correct it's um >> it's essentially accessing a massive um library corpus or repository of information about you and then it's making um whatever action you're querying it to draw out whatever you want to draw out of it will then you know again hourglass >> write that one key thing that you want, but but a lot of the time it'll have to create something new. It's not just a regurgitation. >> Like for example, if I say that, you know, give me the top five photos from my mom's birthday with my uncle in Duth, Minnesota on Lake Superior. >> Mhm. >> That's not a regurgitation. It already has that information and the data of those photos, but then it'll have to spend like 15 seconds just look finding out which ones are the best ones, which ones they think my AI agent thinks that I'm going to love. >> Yeah. >> And then sending those >> everyone's eyes open >> and then Yeah. And then sending those five to me. >> So, so, so yeah. So, those those are the two primary ways. One is again storing information about you that you query um and then um which can also require an act of creation. But really the bigger and harder one is for it to act in that way. Now a really good question about what um what will happen to the video content that is generated about those three profound insights. So let's say it's yeah let's say it's 2028 or 2029 or 2030 something like that and we're starting to use these AI agents and we make this super epic 4-minute video about these three epic bullet points and and it and it lands on the internet. Okay. But doesn't that contradict with what we said earlier about the fact that it's a dead internet theory and it's only AI agents and that kind of thing? >> So the the internet is going to be well this is how I see what will happen. The majority of internet traffic will be AI agents. >> Yeah. >> Completing things on behalf of people, creative things, actionoriented things, blah blah blah. Mhm. >> So when you want to buy a flight from uh DFW to Sou Falls, you never do that again. You just say, "Buy me a flight for what's most um efficient from uh sometime between November 12th to November 17th." >> And um it will automatically go and complete that task and that action for you. >> Okay. Now, so that kind of internet traffic will be AI agent. It will not be a human that's doing that. Okay. >> Now, um now a lot of people have already discussed this, but there's um >> um there's a lot still to be said if you specify that you want to fly um with Delta or if you want to fly with American because if you don't specify then the AI agent >> can have some sort of a relationship with Delta or with American or whatever and then kind of insert that company in. Right. Right. And the same thing is true if you say, you know, >> ship me, I ran out of milk, you know, ship me some milk. >> Yeah. >> Same thing. The little drone that comes over to drop you off milk, it could be of that company that has a relationship with that AI or whatever. >> So, okay. So, now moving on. So, what's going to happen um with the content that you create? So, there's going to be another segment of the internet which is going to be humans, human eyeballs, let's say. >> Yes. So that segment of the internet that's human eyeballs, that's that that's going to be a little bit um interesting or tricky or whatever because a lot of people again are probably not going to want to um verify themselves as um uh with their driver's license or their passport or whatever. But um it seems like that's probably going to be the the way that it happens that that we're going to have some sort of like a human area of it where you can't manipulate it with bots. >> Okay. >> It's it's strict human only >> borderland >> or you know it's going to be another border wall. >> Well, it serves a purpose though. Yeah, it does. Serves a purpose. >> It serves a purpose. So So um >> Of course, cuz something's got to retain the integrity of of organic human dress. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and just and connection and exploration of all kinds of stuff like that that isn't um because the thing is with AI bots, the same thing was true about the financial bots from 15 years ago. So, it's just that an AI bot is just going to be able to it can create, you know, 8 billion comments in the same time that you will finish your paragraph. >> Yeah. >> So, >> yeah. >> Yeah. It's just it's it's not even close to um it's a huge difference between having um a human area of the internet versus an area that can have bots. And so, and I think that part of the internet's probably going to die. I think the part of the internet that has to do with um that's open to bots, >> I think that part of the internet's going to die >> because it's going to be um completely overrun by bots and it's >> taking over the stuff that humans don't have to or want to do anymore. Well, yeah, that's going to be the part of the internet that's the majority of AI agents completing tasks for people. That's that's different. I mean, more so if you want to plug into the non the nonhuman only >> side of the internet, let's say that you will really not like it and there's not really going to be a point to I think that's just going to end up >> find anything new. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's going to be mostly insane amounts of bot propaganda >> bots and bot police >> and all kinds of weird [ __ ] >> like thought police >> for sure >> all kinds of weird [ __ ] So >> So >> god there's so many things opening up. >> So the internet is go Yeah. So the internet's going to die in the sense that there will um that the bot swarms will kill the internet. >> The AI agents will complete tasks on the internet for people. >> Yeah. >> That's going to be different than the bot swarms. agents are never going to get targeted or look at bot swarms or any of that stuff. >> Um, and also there's all kinds of encryption methods and blah blah blah. But >> then the other chunk of the internet is going to be botless. It was just going to be human >> human >> internet connection and stuff. So raw. So that's going to be where you'll Yeah. So that's going to be where we would post that and where it would be seen. And um >> for example, if one of the profound insights was about, hey, you know, we started building this light city and this light city has regenerative community and regenerative technology and all this stuff, regenerative basic needs. Then who sees that piece of content will be able to literally ask their AI agent in that moment, hey, >> where are these regenerative communities currently located? Um, how do I get involved in them? >> Yeah. >> Um, and then you could even summon a digital twin in that moment. For example, this is part of what we're doing with homedown time creator is that you'll have a little, you know, a little digital twin >> that you can somebody who sees that piece of content that's interested in homedo, they can just generate an an Andy Bitner or a different teammate of homedo or whatever. >> Yeah. >> That is able to completely an ele like so it's a specific GPT. It's a specific it's an AI model specifically trained >> on that specific thing by us and then there will be obviously AI models that are hyper specialized in being electricians or >> yeah being mechanics for autonomous vehicles or whatever right so there will be AI models for that you can query for all different kinds of things in this way >> but so you summon that little digital twin you start having a conversation with it >> um and then your AI agent kind of can act as a third wheel of interacting in your conversation and helping you make choices and make actions and that kind of thing if you're interested. >> So that's sort of what I see, you know, where the internet was, where it went, >> where it is now and where it's going, including AI, VR, immersive sims. I we didn't really get into that too much. That's its own sort of >> I want to >> that's its own sort of subject though.