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The Secret To Finding Happiness During Hard Times - Matthew McConaughey

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Matthew McConaughey shares his philosophy on finding happiness during difficult times, emphasizing the importance of deconstructing success rather than just analyzing failure. He notes that while people readily dissect the successes of others in books and podcasts, they often only scrutinize their own failures. To counter this imbalance, McConaughey explains how he forces himself to write daily regardless of his mood, even when things are going well. By reviewing these entries later, he identifies consistencies such as who he hung out with, what he ate, and spiritual practices like saying grace or appreciating beauty that contributed to good times. He argues that happiness is not guaranteed but satisfaction can be engineered through habits designed to reduce pain in life, suggesting we must bottle the science of our own success just as we do when things go wrong. The conversation shifts to self-care and discipline, where McConaughey highlights a striking statistic: people are nearly twice as likely to ensure their dog completes a course of antibiotics compared to ensuring they take their own medication himself. This disparity illustrates how easily humans neglect themselves in favor of others or animals. To combat this tendency toward cynicism—a "disease of getting too old"—McConaughey advocates for holding onto one's principles and backbone even as life changes inevitably occur. He encourages listeners to choose to shine rather than succumb to the flow, maintaining a healthy ego that understands the difference between arrogance and self-awareness. He believes we must be more "full of ourselves," meaning fully committed to our own standards and capable of cracking our own whips when necessary, rather than half-assing life or letting others define us. McConaughey also explores the dynamics of relationships through the concept known as the Michelangelo effect. This principle describes a scenario in partnerships where each person sees the best qualities in the other and actively helps bring them out, much like sculptor Michelangelo revealing David from a block of marble by removing excess stone rather than adding to it. He contrasts this with common relationship failures caused by unrealistic ideals; couples often project god-like expectations onto one another—like Wonder Woman or Superman—which leads to disappointment when reality sets in. Instead, he suggests lowering the "wattage" of these projections and accepting real human flaws, allowing partners to shine without being crushed under impossible standards that neither can meet alone. Finally, McConaughey addresses the critical issue of self-reward versus harsh self-criticism after success or failure. He observes that society is quick to pat others on the back for achievements while delivering a "kick in the dick" and harsh words when we fail ourselves. He prescribes taking time to look in the mirror, own our victories with pride by saying good job, and acknowledge failures without excessive condemnation. This approach fosters ownership of both gains and losses, preventing us from walking away feeling underwhelmed or undervalued. Ultimately, he concludes that it is far easier to be supportive and gentle toward others than we are toward ourselves, urging everyone to treat themselves with the same kindness they would offer a friend who has tried their best.
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talking about that balance between good times and bad times the lessons that we take from each heard a quote recently that said every man knows reflection and introspection when he's at his lowest bad times you can't do anything other than wallow in retrospective assessment uh but one of my favorite things I've learned from you is when things are going well given that that's presumably what you want to have more of may be worth deconstructing that yes I I I I I I wish I could more and I I I think more of us could all deconstruct our assets there's a there's a we happiness you can't guarantee it but there is a science to satisfaction there you can look at habits that engineered less pain in your life maybe more pleasure but at least less pain and that's that's a win um I uh uh I try to deconstruct look I don't do I write it did I used to write as much look at anybody who's ever kept a diary when what's the old sort of nostalgic idea of a diary you go there when you're in pain and you share thoughts that you don't want to share with anyone else of those reflection and I did Ed for some reason I don't know why but would force myself to write every day no matter how happy I happy I was and I didn't like lot of times I want to go write when I was happy because I was like no I don't need to write it I don't need to become conscious of it I'm having too much fun it's getting in the way come on I'm doing it it's living it's happening but and in writing green LS when I went back that's a lot of the consistencies that I found that I wrote when things were going well that I was taking some for some reason taking time to go can I B can I try and bottle some science here to why things are going well and I did find consistencies who I was hanging out out with at night what I was drinking what bar I was at what food I was drinking um how exercise uh preparation for work for school um and I found things I was like you really happy in this segment of your life let's go back and look at what you were doing oh man I I had this I had agmen Dino Scrolls I was on them every day I had some discipline where I was checking in with myself oh you were going to church on Sundays you were you were giv you you you were you were saying thank you God before you went to bed each night you were appreciating more you were pointing out be beautiful things and not taking them for granted and so I found a list of things I like and when I get off track I try to remind myself ah you've been slacking on some of those and I could pull it off I've evolved I got different ways I get away with some now but you know uh I've definitely found consistencies and I think we all have them if we just notate them along the way that they're not by accident cuz we sure as hell deconstruct the reasons when we're in the funk and we don't believe they're by accident we can take ourselves to Behind The Woodshed and show ourselves exactly why we're guilty for every reason and condemn ourselves for every damn reason we got to that spot yeah well let's we're going to do that I just say let's let's cheers let's have a cheers on the way for all the things that are work for when we have [ __ ] going right also knowing that it's not forever that it will we will have a mountain to climb here shortly isn't it interesting so much of content that people like to consume books podcasts autobiographies Memoirs is deconstructing the success of others so we'll happily dissect success in other people right and yet only dissect failure in ourselves this OD symmetry where we bestow all of the glory right on those people well done and I must find out how to do it more even if it doesn't fit me even if there're a different Constitution different background different time for me I'll focus on the negatives right there's a really interesting uh stat around the likelihood of you ensuring that your dog completes a course of antibiotics is about 95% the likelihood that you ensure that you'll complete a course of antibiotics it's about 50% so we're prepared to look after an animal twice as well as ourselves I I I I was I wrote a note the other day man what does that say on the back of your phone the sticker oh choose to shine very cool my daughter gave me that yeah I wrote the other day and most of what I do is I use this Notes app right and I I wrote the other day um um where is it it was on that note I was like what what's what's my best advice I need to give myself right now is listen to my own damn advice yeah and it followed that up with uh um where is it uh yeah trying to live with less gravity and more backbone is a salty task what's that mean to you trying to live lighter with less gravity live lighter not take certain things so seriously but still have the principled backbone because as I'm getting older we get older in the in in in the black and White's turned to Gray and then then there's a great word compromise we all say which is such a mature thing to do and then all of a sudden we let things slide and every when we start going well change will happen hey change is inevitable let change Happ and I'm not ready I that's part of getting old I think not just getting older same with cynicism it's a disease of getting too old and I'm not ready to I don't want to be ready to give up certain things that I'm going no man the beauty of ignorance those things that we believed in I've gotten away with so many things because of my ignorance I'm I'm I'm I'd be dead 14 times in this life if I wouldn't have been ignorant of the situation I was in um and so yeah I you know not not knowing or knowing what we know it's uh uh anyway yeah it's it's more backbone to hold on and be principal to what I stand for what I stand against when it becomes easier and easier to just go with the flow and I'm not ready to go let's just go with the flow I just want to I wantan to I don't want to pick the wrong battles I'm trying trying to be Discerning and not picking the wrong fights because I like picking fights and going after challenges but I'm going to play I'm kind of like man I it's tough duty to win the fair fights and there's a lot of unfair fights out there and why do I want to spend my time if I got 24 hours a day picking unfair fights when I'm going busted my ass to win the fair ones well also picking fights with yourself you know you hinted just there at the difficulty of a a negative inner voice you know you take things seriously you care about what you're doing you want to achieve things in this world which means that you need to have high standards you need to posit an ideal but as soon as you posit an ideal you then begin to to compare yourself to that ideal and often you find yourself lacking because it's a [ __ ] ideal I think it's why a lot of relationships don't work we make her Wonder Woman and she makes us Superman and neither one us can live up to it and that we've got that bulb that honeymoon bulb turned up to 100 watts and the honeymoon's over we're trying to deal with some real just some real Bas stuff let's leave it at 20 watts we're just lit but we're not just feverishly you know superhuman and I think a lot of us just purport that on someone else and they can't live up to it ends up not being fair to them and then they do the same to us and we both walk away going I under I underwhelmed do you know the idea of the Michelangelo effect you heard of this awesome so the Michelangelo effect describes a situation in a relationship friendship or intimate partnership where each partner sees the best in the other and tries to help bring that out so the sum of the parts is greater than it is individually the reason I love it is why it's called the Michelangelo effect so the block of marble that David was carved from had been attempted by a number of other uh sculptors previously huge monstrous thing if you've ever seen David in person ginormous people can't and when you're looking up as well with that angle on the plint it's even bigger previous sculptures had attempted and failed but Michelangelo saw inside of the marble what was David just needed to get away all of the things that W I love that idea yeah yeah I think in life you want to be finding people that believe in you more than you believe in you that hold you to higher standards I think that's the definition of a good PR I think that's the definition of a good of a good partner a good definition of a good husband wife um you know that they remind us of the best of ourselves they shine that light and remind us cuz we do I know I do it gets I put put the blinds on it and I don't see it a lot of times and I'll be reminded I this is this has always been a thing for me um and I don't know how this correlates but I've never been as good in my dreams as I am in real life I never win the day get the girl Ace the test I can perform in my dreams I never have never have as well as I will in in real life think I'm the same and I'll get and I'll be I guess what I'm saying is I'll be I'll pull something off I'm like did everyone see that and my friends are like no [ __ ] that's that's you bro what's the biggie you know what I mean it's kind of what I like about living in Austin Texas they're not really imp impressed with [ __ ] that I pull off they were thought it was cool I want an oscar but they were like well no [ __ ] you know and I was kind like oh all right yeah yeah thank you man that's you know and that's what that's what friends will do in a way loved ones will do that and be like yeah there you are again it comes back to that it's so much easier to be supportive and gentle of other people yeah than of ourselves you know you will happily bestow this sort of gentle reassuring pat on the shoulder when somebody succeeds or falls short when they tried their best right yet given the fact that you tried your best you give yourself a kick in the dick on the way out of the door and a harsh word to follow you yep what do you think about when you do succeed and a lot of people go nope that's nothing I I I I prescribed that I I think we should take some time to be able to look in the mirror and own that thing that we pulled off off and go good job that's what you wanted that's what you got at the same time be able to as we do more often look in the mirror when we fail and go HH bogey you not pull that off you know what I mean but I I mean it's it's kind of I'm biging the ownership idea the fail or the or the gain ownership being really important um and and I don't I'm I'm a fan of the of of the ego I wish people that someone said this to me before look ah this this this acquaintance said this and it came off the cup I didn't think about it she was like ah somebody Matthew you're so full of yourself and I without thinking I was like well who else am I supposed to be full of that's a good line and I stopped after I was like that's exactly what I meant I went wrote that down I wish more people were more full of themselves not in the Arrogant way but I'm talking about a healthy ego to understand and I understand ego's difference between I and me me is the objective but to know the I wish more people I wish we were more full of ourselves I wish more people in the world were more full of themselves I think part of the challenges in life is a lot of us are running around half assing ourselves half foing ourselves not full of ourselves not studying oursel enough not holding oursel to task enough not patting our own self on the back when we do get what we want enough not cracking our own whip on our backside when we do get out of line even though we knew better I wish we were more full of ourselves that way in other news this episode is brought to you by Shopify Shopify Powers 10% of all e-commerce in the United States and they are the global force behind gym shock skims aloe and newtonic look you're not going into business to learn how to code or build a website or do backend inventory management Shopify 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