"The REAL Reason You're Dying" – Gary Brecka SLAMS Corporate Scams, Genetic Tests & Health Myths

what you're about to see in the next 5 to 10 years see artificial intelligence and Big Data are going to circumvent the entire system you are succumbing to a disease because of a surgery that wasn't required because of a medication that was unnecessary due to a diagnosis that was inaccurate the experts are making the mistake on the reason why you're dying no question you see we've mapped the entire Human Genome but there's no Gene for a lot of these diseases and this study was registered at clinical trials.gov yes you can go look this study up we have this all wrong the Maha movement is about making changes to the poison that's in our food supply not eliminating people's choices I don't see Cardone as a health guy I see him as a real estate guy what happened between the two of you they're actually kind of professionals at business scamming how much time committing does it take to look like that less than you think it's not complicated that's simple it's super not complicated man I mean I I could s how long of doing that do you see the results I immediately really if you took three I I don't know do I have some here is my team still here I've never had it I have it right now if you want to bring one of your one I literally have it right now 30 seconds did you ever think you would make it I tastet Victory I know this life for me Adam what's your point the future looks bright my handshake is better than anything I ever sign right here you are a one of one my son's I think okay so today Gary Brea the man who one day we all woke up and we're on Tik Tok or Instagram or X or Facebook or YouTube and you hear the face of UFC Dana White saying this man helped me save 10 he said you got 10.4 years left to live and I did this and I lost went in and we saw Dana's body and we're like holy who helped this guy the guy that's our guest today Gary it's great to have you on great to be here brother I'm serious man I'm excited to be here yeah yeah we we met uh a year ago I want to say right the UFC fight Yeah we actually met in one of Dana's uh little private rooms there before the fights right right the the I think it was at an event that President Trump showed up and ianka was there and we're sitting right there was a great experience Dana May one of the master connectors introducing everybody to everybody you're in the back lawyers are there Alex is there spirro all these other guys everyone's talking and you and I started talking about different things and uh the the part that for me uh uh we have in common is the fact that you came from the life insurance industry the actuary the life settlement and and that was your introduction to cing because the idea with life settlement is you buy insurance policy and finding ways to see how long is this person going to to live and maybe if you don't mind sharing with the audience the industry where you're supposed to calculate cuz a lot of people say how do you know 10.4 years well actuaries and life settlement actually that's their business model maybe talk about that a little bit you know it's of all the things that I talk about I get the most Flack for that because people say well if you could predict life expectancy to the month you know you'd be Jesus you would have won a Nobel Prize um and I assure you I'm Not Jesus and I've never won a Nobel Prize but it is some of the most accurate science in the world you know if you think about life insurance companies annuities reverse mortgages there's so many Financial Services instruments that are based on mortality right and they don't care where you are on an Actuarial curve right we're all on one everybody listening to this podcast right now is on an Actuarial curve if you're a 24y old female you have a life expectancy of x if you're a 44 year old male you have a life expectancy of Y but when they're getting ready to take 25 40 50 $60 Million worth of risk on your life only one thing matters it's how many more do you have left on Earth and about two and a half decades ago there was a humongous push um I mean not just because of the life settlement industry which is the sale of policies in the secondary Market um because a lot of people don't realize that your life insurance policy is a piece of personal property like like anything else like your car like your house like uh anything else that you own it's important for the audience to realize this is I own a life insurance policy I'm 78 years old I got a $5 million insurance policy I don't have a living spouse that needs it I need cash right now I go to a life settlement company and they pay me a percentage so if it's 5 million maybe they'll pay me a million bucks up front they'll take the insurance over so so means when I die the the 5 million goes to the person that bought it I get 1 million and the difference is 4 million and a new company pays the premium until I die that's right that's exactly it that's a life settlement transition that's the calculation you make to see is this a risk of an investment how long is this guy going to die it's the complete opposite of life insurance corre where you're buying it corre yes you know so you're you want to know um specific mortality so these are called probabilistic models and essentially it's not that if you have 220 months to live that you're going to die in exactly 220 months what the model predicts is um if your life expectancy is 220 months for example just to make one up that means that you have the exact same chance of being alive as you do of being dead that's your mean mortality right so you have the same chance of being alive as being dead in 220 months now what they're going to want to know is what are the chances that you are on the left side of the bell curve or the right side of the P curve and this is where this system of credits and debits comes in right and we all know that you know mortality debits are things like type 2 diabetes morbit obesity hypertension um uh you know history of smoking fatty liver the the obvious things are mortality debits we started to then import demographic data so we would look at lifestyle data and demographic data and we would predict the chances that somebody would actually adjust their lifestyle and potentially fix the problems that they had and this is when the model became extraordinarily accurate because these databases don't forget will have 3370 Million Lives and they have information that no other database has because they know the day the date the time the location and the cause of death for 370 Million Lives so they pull that back into these records and they say what led to this person's early demise their early mortality and you can go into the actual record and you can build a case to say they actually they Di at 77 but they actually started to die at 41 when this happened they started a corticosteroid um the corticosteroid actually initially reduced their inflammatory Cascade but then an ather joint like a termite and as the ather joint like a termite it caused them to have um you know bilateral knee Replacements post bilateral knee replacement this caused a reduction in their Mobility what we called the ambulatory profile as you reduce their Mobility you bring in all the diseases that exacerbate with reduced mobility and as you bring those diseases from that person's future into their present they now succumb to a disease that they likely never should have had because very often they're on a medication that wasn't required um because of a surgery that was unnecessary because of a diagnosis that very often was incorrect um and it was this type of research that led to the 2016 study that Harvard did that determined that the third leading cause of death in America is modern medicine it's it's medical error right you have cardiovascular disease cancer and then modern medicine and modern medicine number three number three is medical error so so the experts are making the mistake on the reason why you're dying no question the experts are making the mistake on the reason why you're dying because you know our modern medical system and and the good news is what you're about to see in the next 5 to 10 years is you are going to see artificial intelligence and Big Data are going to circumvent the entire system and what I mean by that is no longer will the randomized clinical trial that's conducted by a pharmaceutical company that was used to approve a drug by you know through the FDA become the standard of care the standard of care will be the standard of care that has the best outcome and large data is going to tell us what the best outcomes come from so so for example just to go back to the case that I was just citing and and finish up the first thought so this practice of predicting death is this system of credits and debits and we realized that the reason why the majority of people are not living healthier happier longer you know more fulfilling lives were because of what we called modifiable risk factors so in other words things that they could actually take control of or do that would permanently change the trajectory of their life and and for me that was for the positive or the negative like for the positive or the negative right I mean lifestyle factors of the greatest impact on modifiable risk factor yeah modifiable risk factors just a fancy scientific name for saying things that are under your own control right um and I mean trauma if you had you know major trauma car AC accident and now you have spinal injury okay that's not under your control but metabolic syndrome type 2 diabetes morbid obesity um you know poor sleep poor focus and concentration autoimmune conditions um ADD ADHD OCD manic depression bipolar these are all conditions that lifestyle changes modifying your lifestyle can dramatically change not only the impact of but permanently put these things in your rearview mirror and we would try to predict the chance that somebody's would modify their lifestyle and change habits that would affect their mortality debits in the majority of cases they don't and so it was very easy to predict their their death but what happened to me was I realized and this isn't just data you know they're human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets um and I made a very conscious decision to leave that industry and say I don't want to spend the balance of my lifetime predicting death I want to spend the balance of my lifetime you know trying to help people live healthier happier longer and by the way this is a very important transition from there to the business you're in because were you were you an actual actuary or you were not the ACT you were selling no we we were we we own the largest brokerage firm in the industry for policies in the secondary Market was called life what was it called life asset group so it wasn't life Partners in Waco was a no no no it wasn't life Partners in Waco was called life asset group I later sold that to a big Insurance conglomerate here in South Florida no in New York called uh incap but the but the life settlement was out of Florida yes I was in Mii my office was in Miami on on uh um brick key did you ever know a guy named Jerry V or any uh uh that name sounds familiar yeah there was a lot of Life settlement guys I know Jerry from 20 years ago but so so to me act the average person that's watching it's like what is an actuary right so the actuary their job is or even the underwriter you'll submit an insurance policy and you'll say well I think this guy's healthy what does he do you go through a list of questions that they look at maybe they kg blood whatever they ask to do depending on the age and the background it is and then from then they're say yeah this guy's preferred Elite no you're preferred no you're standard oh you're smoker standard tobacco prefer tobacco so then you're getting gred right yeah that's right but on the opposite side of where you're at this is how long I'm going to live when you're buying an insurance policy what were some of the biggest credits and debits you guys saw to say I don't know because again the cost of insurance has gone down predominantly for many years because life expectancy has gone higher so a lot of times people think life insurance must be more expensive today than ever before it's actually cheaper cuz we're living longer we used to live a lot less 40 years ago so now it's cheaper to buy life insurance because we're living longer but what were some of the when you were in it and you're looking at all these things it's like a investment banker looking at so many different deals coming through they eventually can just look at the deal and say no yes no no no yes maybe I don't know let me ask this question what were some of the things you looked at to say okay these four behaviors actuaries automatically are like no no these are the ones we're most concerned about but these three behaviors okay we're good with these let's go here what did you notice so three things became glaringly apparent number one modifiable risk factors were things that people could change the trajectory of their life the second thing that was glaringly apparent to us and and remember we were not allowed to have any contact with the patient or any contact with a treating physician even though I could review your entire medical record I could see you know you know life insurance is a very invasive process they get your divorce decrees your your bank accounts brokage accounts your trusts your Wills so especially the bigger it is the bigger it is the more invasive it is right and then they're going to take your medical records and then someone like myself or another actuary is going to say these are the tests that I want to run on this person EKG EEG I'm going to run these blood tests not just a standard blood panel we can request specific Labs on that panel and essentially what you're doing is you're looking at where they are metabolically and then you're looking at the impact of their lifestyle to either accelerate this person toward the grave or decelerate them towards the grave and again what became glaringly apparent to me was that the majority of people that are suffering from chronic conditions have not had a disease or a pathology happened to them they are happening that something is happening within them and by that I mean that the majority of these people were nutrient deficient so simple nutrients if you if I put up a a chart behind me of of your cellular biology and you looked at the 300 billion transactions that are going on inside your cells every single day what you would find is you would find a whole Myriad of vitamins minerals amino acids nutrients and you wouldn't see any chemicals you wouldn't see any synthetics you wouldn't see any pharmaceutical and and what modern medicine has applied is everything that man makes us and taken away everything that God gave us and what we noticed was that the nutrient deficiencies were leading to the deceleration or the acceleration of mortality and what I mean by that so just take the example that I just gave um take vitamin D3 for example this is you know when they talk about medical error vitamin D3 is arguably if you were to pick one compound in the human body that may be the most important thing when God made us he made us with the ability to make one vitamin right so if I tested your bloodstream you'd have hundreds of vitamins in your bloodstream you're only capable of making one it's vitamin D3 coloc calciferol you make it from sunlight and cholesterol um about 50% of the world's population is Clin deficient in this nutrient about 85% of the African-American and dark complected Latino populations are clinically deficient in this nutrient so what happens when you're deficient in something simple like vitamin D3 well eventually if it's low enough for long enough you will present to your physician with rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms so you're going to go to your Dock and you say hey when I get out of bed in the morning the SS of my feet my ankles really sore um and achy when I walk to the bath bathroom to take my first pee um it's it now my hips are a little sore my low back back and and you know lately it's it's hard for me to make a tight Fist and in very many cases too too often to mention that we saw in in the record that doctor without doing any other testing no ra factors no said rates is going to go you know what um Patrick you've got rheumatoid arthritis but don't worry I'm going to put you on something called a corticosteroid and um this is going to knock the inflammation down and and and you'll be fine so you start a corticosteroid so there was a mistake in diagnosis first of all you're you're clinically deficient in a basic nutrient so instead of raising your level of vitamin D3 they put you on something called methotraxate or um another anti-inflammatory called a corticosteroid and now this corticosteroid which initially reduced inflammation starts to erode your joints it accelerates the erosion of your joints so quickly that it was so accurate that if you started a corticosteroid we would artificially Advance your age six years in one day and we would artificially schedule a joint replacement for you and from the point where we determined you would have a joint replacement we would begin to reduce what's called your amb atory profile how well you ambulate how well you move and as we reduce your Mobility we could bring in all the diseases diseases that exacerbated with reduced mobility and as these diseases come into your present now all of a sudden you are succumbing to a disease that you never should have had because of a surgery that wasn't required because of a medication that was unnecessary due to a diagnosis that was inaccurate because of a simple nutrient deficiency and so you and I can give you hundred of examples like this you can just keep rewinding all of these consequences in someone's later age and you can rewind it back to that Tipping Point where things went wrong and once you've been diagnosed with a condition and it makes into the medical record we would call these anchor diagnosis so if you're diagnosed with hypertension you're always a hypertensive patient if your doctor diagnoses you with thyroid you're always a hypothyroid patient and so if you transfer care to another doctor they look at the record and they go oh you know Patrick's got hypothyroid he's uh you know he's got elevated hematocrite I'm going to continue the blood thinners I'm going to continue the why is that Synthroid because nobody goes back to check and say hey I wonder if um Dr XYZ actually properly diagnosed Patrick with this hypothyroid or if he actually if maybe his hematocrit in his blood his blood viscosity has changed he doesn't need to be on the blood thinner anymore maybe his hypertension is actually normal because when he was diagnosed he was 80 pounds heavier he's 80 pounds lighter right now and has adopted a healthy diet and he's on an exercise routine we're just going to keep him on the hypertension medication and so and and these had consequences the more Pharmaceuticals you are on the more accurate your your mortality so the more pharmaceutical compounds we could stack up in a record the more accurate we could determine your life expectancy that is a strange thing to say so so the more the more Pharmaceuticals I'm taking the more you can accurately predict my life expectancy the more accurately we can predict your so you take things for example like uh St Statin all right so statins lower LDL cholesterol there was a prevailing uh you know theory in medicine which is vastly being disproven now largely by artificial intelligence and Big Data um that LD when LDL cholesterol is up there's an increased risk of cardiovascular disease and so if we lower LDL cholesterol we'll lower the risk of cardiovascular disease the only problem is you're looking at that so myopically right you're just taking that one variable LDL high high risk of cardiovascular disease LDL low low risk of cardiovascular disease it's not simple um in fact there's no correlation between elevated LDL cholesterol on its own as an independent risk factor and cardiovascular disease none cholesterol does not cause aor scerotic plaing or naring of the arteries damage to the arterial wall does the inflammatory Cascade does and so what happens is if if you understand what cholesterol is right it's not a fuel source cholesterol is a u construction material so the body makes it the liver makes 85% of the cholesterol in your bloodstream and what is it used for well build every cell wall every cell membrane every hormone in the human body and we use to make vitamin D3 coloc calciferol the most important nutrient in the human body in my opinion and so what happens when you push this nutrient low well now you buy yourself consequences down the road now you're now you're interrupting cell walls so membranes hormones vitamin D3 and now people get on Statin now their joints start aching uh their memory starts to go now the increase their risk for Alzheimer's early onet dementia you know um uh cognitive decline is one of the fastest accelerance of Aging uh people that are in steep cognitive client are not compliant with their you know medications and protocols and so you've taken this one independent risk factor and because you think you're lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease you create this entire Cascade of problems down the road and we saw this over and over and over again in fact we did not process a death claim not one in my entire 22-year career on a centenarian that did not have elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death wow once interesting but modern medicine would say ldo cholesterol is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease no it's actually a risk factor for longevity high LDL and low triglyceride um and high HDL cholesterol is a market for longevity not not for cardiovascular disease and so we believed a lot in what Pharma and um contrived medical trials were telling us was the standard of care and the standard of care was killing people flatly to to be honest yeah so you know what I'm doing right now here's what I'm searching so I I when you saw life insurance the biggest thing that increased the cost of insurance and by the way the audience watching this they're like I'm not interest in life insurance but there's a point to it because just like California insurance companies have left why have they left they want to make money why are they leaving the risk of protecting a home under water with fire they just like listen time out we're out right they would state they're not leaving Idaho they're not leaving other places why are they leaving California and Florida Florida they're leaving because worries of hurricane or the cost of insurance has gone up tremendously I get it so life insurance tells us the risk of what's going on the biggest Factor on why cost of insurance would go up was smoking you remember this if somebody was a smoker you could be paying $60 for cost of insurance it goes1 that was the biggest differentiator that's right then when you would look at the next one maybe it was the level of alcohol consumption because you would be like well how often do you drink well I drink you know once a month okay really then we would do the blood work no no you drink a different test that comes out you know and it was your occupation right or your weight weight would typically be number three on how much you weight it was always the warrior weight but weight wasn't AB above smoking so it was smoking alcohol weight and an occupation if you had a job that was kind of risky that would increase your cost of insurance why was smoking then alcohol then you know your weight why would smoking above it all because few smokers ever quit right it wasn't the presence of the nicotine it was all the carriers with the nicotine right the tar few smokers ever quit Wow way few smokers than you can ever imagine ever quit and if you think about what smoking is um you know uh nicotine addiction these are and and you just convert it into human physiology the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction so in other words words um if you are deficient in dopamine you will engage in dopamine seeking Behavior that's why if you've ever been an addict or you've ever known a true addict um their addiction has a tendency to shift so you know alcoholics become drug addicts drug addicts become um Workaholics Workaholics might become Workaholics they might shift into a healthier addiction but the addiction never really goes away because the dopamine deficiency is the main driver of behavior dopamine is the neurotransmitter of behavior like serotonin is the neurotransmitter of mood so we treat physical addiction we try to treat the nicotine the Suboxone the alcohol um the narcotic we don't treat the dopamine addiction and this is why a true addict will go through life shifting their addictions and so when we get back to human physiology we go well what causes deficiencies in dopamine right this is this is what really led me to leave and start a wellness franchise because I'm like we have this all wrong you know this you know this person doesn't have ADD or ADHD or OCD this person actually isn't suffering from anxiety um there's no situation that causes their anxiety this anxiety comes and goes seemingly without a trigger so how could that actually be anxiety if there's nothing in their external environment that's causing it right well mean you start to break down well what is anxiety anxiety is a rise in a category of neurotransmitters in the in in the brain called catac colomines so this person has a catac colomine regulation issue not the mental disease or the mental disorder of anxiety well how do we we regulate catac colomines we increase the complex of B vitamins we add something called methylcobalamin we remove folic acid which is a synthetic man-made chemical in our food supply um which is not found naturally in nature anywhere on the surface of the Earth and we exchange it for something called methyl folate bang now they regulate catac colomines when they regulate catamin the anxiety goes away you're actually been treating for a disease that was actually a nutrient deficiency just like you were being treated for rheumatoid when you had a D3 deficiency just like we put people on thyroid medication when 80% of the thyroid hormone that we measure in the blood the T3 hormone is not even made in the thyroid it's made outside of the thyroid in the liver in the gut and the periphery why are we not looking at whether or not the liver the gut and the periphery have adequate nutrients to make the thyroid hormone that is low that is causing us to medicate the thyroid 85% of all hypertensive diagnosis when you go into your doctor and they say you have hypertension and you say well why well my EKG is normal my EEG is normal my heart sounds are normal my lung sounds are normal um I had a cardiac catherization it was normal I had a die contrast study it was normal there's nothing wrong with my heart yeah we know but we're still going to medicate your heart anyway even though we can't figure out anything wrong with it we we don't know why you have high blood pressure oh what we looked and your uncle has it and your mother has it on you know uh your your grandmother has it on your dad's side so you have familial hypertension well what's that it's genetically inherited hypertension and then you just accept that you you inherited a disease from your ancestor so you accept And subscribe to a lifetime of medication but if you just took that one step further and said just out of curiosity what Gene did my ancestor pass on to me that's causing this condition to exist because you said I inherited it from my ancestor right so what Gene did they pass on to me their face would go blank you see we' mapped the entire Human Genome we know every Gene in the human body if there were a gene for these conditions we would know what it is but there's no Gene for a lot of these diseases because the disease runs in families we assume it's a genetically inherited disease we rarely pass disease from generation to generation we pass the inability for the body to refine a raw material which causes a deficiency which leads to that disease this deficiency can be fixed so for example that take take hypertention just just to since we're on that subject let's take Dana White because his he's been very public about it medical records we've actually put his medical records on on on Instagram so I fig if you put your medical records up to 8.8 million people you've lost your hip of privil so Dana I apologize brother we're gonna lay it out um so when I met Dana you know he was um he was certainly overweight he was you know by BMI charts he would have been that's the one he posted yeah yeah there he is that's when we met you met September 2022 yeah look at the difference though that's unbelievable Gary it's crazy so you when when you met with him he said it's two years since I started my health Journey with Gary braa um thanks for changing my life brother I don't think I saw that that's awesome thank you Daniel yeah so so what was going on up top that was going on at the bottom so first of all he was on multiple uh medications for heart um for high blood pressure he was they call he was blood thinners um dire ICS uh ACE inhibitors you know um beta blockers calcium channel blockers all things to interrupt the function of the heart holding the heart responsible for Crime it's not committing and and so let's let's just talk about what happened with Dana White um and so when we looked at Dana blood work and and for the record I am not a physician I'm not licensed to practice medicine so I'm not giving medical advice and there was a clinical team that was involved in Dana's case that made the clinical decisions I want to be clear about that but when we looked at Dana blood work um and we looked at uh his genetics um he had a genetic variant that did not allow him to convert a an amino acid in his blood called homocysteine okay so he couldn't take homocysteine and turn it into a harmless amino acid called methionine and this is this is my point yeah go can you just pull up yeah an amino acid homosysteine per perfect all um look at uh hyper homos symia what is hyper homos symia or symptoms of hyper homos symia um look at uh so hyper homos symia can cause by deficiency in B6 B12 or folate genetic disorders okay so let's just start at the top two the leading two causes of high homosysteine are nutrient deficiencies nobody checked to see if the nutrient deficiency might be what's causing his high blood pressure because what happens when your homocysteine Rises as homosysteine is cruising by the inside lining of your artery okay it irritates your artery and if you irritate an artery it will clamp down and if you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system the pressure goes up so now I have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in my body I have this very high level of homocystine which is one of the most inflammatory factors in the human body circulating around in my blood this inflammation circulating around in my blood and because of that my arterial system constricts and it drives my pressure up you go to the cardiologist which he did the cardiologist checks his heart and says man everything's fine with your heart but you have high blood pressure so we're going to start pounding on the heart um for a crime it's not committing to try to lower your blood pressure but since since the hypertension wasn't coming from the heart it was coming from the constriction of blood vessels because of a simple deficiency in those vitamins listed right there um then the hypertension continued to get worse he had one of the highest levels of homocysteine that I'd ever seen that my clinical team had ever seen so we put them on a amino acid called trimethylglycine TMG which you could get at GNC we put them on a complex a methyl folate you know a form of B12 called methyl galin high doses of those things and I I remember talking to him about his medical records in s Dana there's nothing wrong with your heart because I'm not I can't I'm not in a position to tell you to top stop taking cardiovascular medication you but you will know in in due course over the next few weeks when it's actually time to titrate down on your on your medication we'll get your cardiologist involved and so essentially I gave him this amino acid that allowed his body to start metab mizing homocysteine as his homoy level dropped his vascular system began to relax as his vascular system relaxed his pressure dropped as this pressure dropped it eventually returned to normal and we were doing blood pressure three times a day seven days a week and by week 21 he was completely off of all of his cardiovascular medication that he had been on for 15 years wow and because of the inflammatory Cascade um you know high C reactive protein high homosysteine he had a lot of swelling in his Nas of fairings and the back of his fairings behind behind his tongue so he's also on a CPAP machine so as he brought that inflammatory Cascade down the um the adenoid area widened and the sleep apnea went away so he got off the sleep apnea machine and and then as we started to manage the What's called the hematocrit the blood viscosity by simply doing you know blood dumps therapeutic photomy his himatic return returned to normal meaning the blood viscosity returned to normal he stopped having motor oil for blood blood and he began having water for blood viscosity wise and so now you're off the blood thinners so he's off of blood thinners he's off of um uh hypertensive medication he was off of the um diuretics that were actually just stripping potassium out of his uh out of his tissues and he got off of all of his medication his weight dropped blood pressure returned to normal sleep deepened REM sleep extended deep sleep extended he was off of the C cpad Machine cognitive function went back through the roof um you know his his uh weight loss improved every other facet of his of his life and now if you look at him now he's two and a half years out he's on no Pharmaceuticals he doesn't take any prescription medication um the tentis that he had and the vertigo that he had is virtually gone he's incredibly good shape and he'll stay here for the you know the balance of his adult lifetime he looks just like that right now how much time commitment does it take to look like that less than you think 70% of that is um is Diet 70 okay I I agree but the 30% that is the red light the the cold plunge how much time commitment does that require how many days a week so if you want to get back to the basics and just look like that what he's what he's really focused on now is life extension right so I always tell people look we you know um in my previous company we sold $110,000 red light bed and if you you know if you're getting ready to buy a Ferrari go buy a red light bed before you buy a Ferrari that Ferrari is going to do nothing for your cellular cellular biology but red light can can can change your life but what's really interesting is most of these modalities are just mimicking what we get from other nature you know so again we're getting back to what God gave us not what man makes us so you can go out and spend $123,000 on a red light bed um if you've got that money lying around or you could just take your shirt off and expose your skin to sunlight for 16 to 20 minutes every morning um face the sun you know we we've been taught to fear the sun you know we get three things from Mother Nature we get the mag magnetism from the earth which is a very real thing I get so much Flack on this on on on social media which I can't understand why because it's a very valid concept taking your shoes off touching the surface of the Earth earthing grounding is a very real thing um the Earth has a low gous current When We Touch the surface of the Earth we discharge into the Earth you can actually measure this in the blood I've done it real time on stages before in front of tons of people where if we can't touch the surface of the Earth I'll lay somebody on a PF mat pulse electromagnetic field mat and you just their finger you put on a slide and you show people in real time um what your red blood cells look like circulating around in your blood well you'll you'll see that they're all kind of stuck together and clumped up that's a great Matt too um stuck together and clumped up because when your cells have opposite charges they attract soon as you touch the surface of the Earth for a few minutes it repolarizes the surface of those cells and they actually start to free float around they can't contact each other why why is that because you change the so if if these if these these are two cells and they have the same charge they can't touch like C like two poles of a magnet as soon as they get opposite charges they attract so when your cells start sticking together everywhere they touch you lose surface area what happens when you lose surface area on a cell that's round that's meant to have all this surface area in contact with its environment it can't eliminate waste it can't repair it can't detoxify it can't it can't regenerate and now you start suffering all of these consequences for something simple like I just don't walk on the surface of the Earth on a regular basis now if you have the money and you want to save the time you can get a pmf mat you can drop five grand on a pmf mat or 1,300 bucks on a pmf mat but if you don't want to do that take your shoes off and touch the surface of the Earth you can spend $123,000 on a red light bed or you can take your shirt off and expose your skin to sunlight in the first 45 to 60 Minutes of the day um and that we are very photovoltaic beings all red light is doing is taking the beneficial wavelengths from the Sun and mimicking those in an inside environment right you get real physiologic benefits from red light so you could realistically do all of this naturally without even needing to buy all these all these equipment absolutely I tell people all the time if you can't afford a cold plch take take Tupperware containers fill them full of water put them in your freezer and put blocks of ice into your tub and you'll do that twice a week because that cold punung will last you three days right if if you don't have a tub take a cold shower um you know one of the best things you can do and if if you're going to harness your morning routine is get up in the morning get out in first light the first 45 to 60 Minutes of the day when there's no UVA no UVB rays um allow the natural sunlight to hit your skin start to generate vitamin D3 you are very photovoltaic it is actually a material fact that your mitochondria are charged by light let me ask this question so you know because the motive for doing it to get people to commit to um Health right sometimes it's hard to get people to commit to it right you could say well listen your kids are relying on you yeah I'm G to live you know you're going to have a better lifestyle eh I'm going to live you're going to be able to do this but you're going to look better you're going to do this and everybody wants a shortcut right whatever is going to be the fastest way to do it what what can if a person's running a business or a person's A salesperson or a person's an executive if a person's a content creator whatever you want to call it parent spouse what what can a person performs better the better the mood they're in no doubt you sell better you you father better you husband better you wife better you mother better you do everything better right so what are two three things a person can do to improve their mood when they go throughout the day first of all when you say mood what and I convert that to physiology so that's what I'm going to do and you say mood or emotional state what does that mean in the human body if you said Gary what is a mood what is an emotional state I would tell you it's a collection of neurotransmitters right bound to oxygen so in other words mood is a recipe so if you said I want to make happiness okay that's so much serotonin so much dopamine so much norepinephrine so much epinephrine you mix that up boom you have the emotion of Happiness um you know I want Elation Joy passion arousal okay you you change the level of Serotonin you change the level of dopamine and so you create mood the ingredients for mood are neurotransmitters so where do neurotransmitters come from they're made in the gut 90% of the serotonin in our body is right here if you don't have it here you can't have it here and so like for example you know the the serotonin hypothesis of depression says if you're a low on serotonin you're by definition depressed so your mood is depressed do you actually have depression or do you have a deficiency in serotonin so now if the serotonin hypothesis of depression is true that means I have low serotonin um and so wouldn't you think that if I'm depressed because I have low serotonin that the fix would be to raise serotonin but that's not what we do we take people that are low on serotonin and we put them on ssris selective serotonin reuptake Inhibitors so what these do they bind to little sights in your brain and they essentially slow the uptake of Serotonin and and the idea is if we ration what little serotonin you have uh then you won't go off a cliff well if we you know 90% of the serotonin is made right here in our gut why don't we go to the factory that makes serotonin and increase its production if I want to improve my mood let's produce more of the ingredients that create mood and so how do we make serotonin well we take an amino acid called tryptophan and we methylated into the neurotransmitter serotonin what's needed to do that methylfolate uh B complexes um the the uh methyl form of of cobalamin trimethyl glycine basic nutrients can actually improve the methylation cycle and utilization transportation of Serotonin so I would if if you are an entrepreneur if you are a busy mother busy father if if being mentally on your game is something that you need in order to succeed in your career I would focus first on your gut um because we make dopamine in our gut too how do we make dopamine we take tryptophan fetal alanine we convert it into a neurotransmitter called dopamine could serotonin deficiency be a deficiency in the amino acid tryptophan yes could could depression be an inability to methylate proper amounts of Serotonin yes and now now we're up here messing with the mind we're putting um you know neuroplasticity altering chemicals in the mind to fix a nutrient deficiency just like Dana White had a nutrient deficiency in triog Glycine and he was on cardiovascular medication to fix a nutrient deficiency now he's on an amino acid so his body can actually break these compounds down you know a lot of times people that have hypothyroid are are deficient in selenium thyine and um often iodine and so why are we not first testing for what's missing from what God gave us that's my whole Mantra is that you know we're not as sick we're not as diseased we're not as pathological as we think we are we are nutrient deficient and if we would you know if you want to see magic happen in the human body Pat you you you give it the raw material it needs to do its job and so what does it need to do its job um first of all I would I I would focus on your gut and we can talk about what you do to do that but our our ultimate human superpower is sleep if you're not sleeping you're not performing full stop so you're not performing at your best athletically you're certainly not performing at your best cognitively so if you want to get an edge on on the the rest of your competition you have to develop a sleep hygiene or sleep routine if you ask most of your listeners what do you do to go to sleep they'll just say I don't know I get in bed right like when do you go to bed whenever I finish doing my you know like whenever sometimes it's 1:00 in the morning sometimes it's 11:00 in the morning I can't think about an activity people do before they want to go to sleep 10 11 that's a good reason to put it off you know but none of them are doing it seven nights a week okay come on come on dude yeah I mean okay I agree um so and that's actually that's good for your sleep oh dude that's the best way to reduce catacol means and put you right to sleep and you tell your you know you're going to see a lot of husbands showing this clip to their wives yeah yeah or Vera wives if you want to extend your life make love before you go to bed that's a material fact but if you ask most people about sleep um this is the most bullied thing in their schedule sleep is the bastard step child of your day you know we push it around because it's the easiest thing for us to manipulate in our schedule um so you need to prioritize self-care or else you will never be able to be selfless and this is why 82% of all autoimmune diseases happen to women if you take all all autoimmune diseases category about 80 82% of autoimmune disease affect women why is that because autoimmune is you know racist or sexist no it's because women have a tendency to be more selfless they suffer from things like caregiver syndrome you know they put the needs of others before themselves they're almost genetically programmed to do this very interesting to Bear children um so they they lack more sleep because they're the ones that are taking care of the kids and all this other stuff so that is why the wow okay that makes sense Pride themselves for sleep for their kids they will exhaust themselves for their spouse um and they will put the needs of others you know as as a broad statement before the needs of themselves so women have a tendency to put themselves in the back seat a lot more often than men do and this constant lack of self-care which they will very often look at as being selfish um they want to be selfless so they wake up in the morning going to give all my time to my kids then I'm going to go and give my time to my career and then I'm going to give my time to my spouse then I'm going to give it to the kids and then I'm going to go to bed and so the first thing I would say is is develop a sleep routine right and and sleep hygiene works like this um if you want to I mean you want to be a super sleeper you're going to be a super performer because everyone knows sleep is good for you but few people know why like what what's happening during deep sleep practice about good quality sleep yeah but that's number one right there regular sleep awake cycle um that is you were going somewhere so what is the behavior you said what do you do to go to sleep so what do you do to go to sleep so let's so let's just dive into sleep real quick so because a lot of people struggle with sleep at night they don't know how to go to sleep at night I'll tell you why most people listening to this podcast are not sleeping they're not sleeping because they are body tired but mind awake as their environment quiets their mind wakes up and they will tell you I am not falling asleep because I am thinking of the most innocuous like I'm you know should I have a dinner party uh you know did did my belt match my shoes today did I get everything on my grocery list did I return that Instagram post nothing that couldn't wait till the next day this is called rumination and we ruminate at night because of a category of neurotransmitters called catacol amines as these neurotransmitters rise it creates a waken state so your body tired you're exhausted but you're laying their mind awake and I'm going to tell you how to solve that in a second but first you know if we just isolate what's so important about sleep okay well specific things happen during sleep that don't happen during any other time of our cycle so if you're going to push anything around in your schedule P push meetings and travel around in priority sleep and exercise and so when you look at what happens during deep sleep for example um this is the only time that the brain is actually eliminating waste and so we have a lymphatic system which everybody knows of you know your lymphatics get swollen when you get a sore throat um we got lymph nodes under our armpits we got them in our groins we got them all over the body to get rid of waste in the brain it's called the glymphatic system and this system is only active during deep sleep so if you don't get deep sleep your brain doesn't detoxify doesn't eliminate waste doesn't repair it doesn't regenerate so you're actually building up toxicity in the brain 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happened obviously you know divorce bankruptcy there there are reasons why you you you know you wouldn't sleep but aside from the obvious most people have this chronically throughout their lifetime they are chronic poor sleepers and they get in bed their body tired but their mind awake so what is causing awaken State it's a category of neurotransmitters called catac colomines if you pull those up catacol amines um catacol amines are fight ORF flight neurotransmitters okay so if catacol amines are at like two neurotransmitters and hormones play a crucial role in the body's response to stress fear and excitement okay so as these neurotransmitters rise they create one of those things stress fear or excitement they create a waken state and the more that they rise the more impact they have on your physiology so at low levels your mind is awake and it's just kind of buzzing as it rises a little further you get anxious is it keeps Rising you will have anxiety if they continue to rise you will have a full-blown panic attack and if they rise even further you'll have paranoia and so this entire Cascade of mental illnesses and issues sleep disturbances sleep disruptions you know uh in insomnia Related Disorders is is following this rise and fall of these neurotransmitters there is a gene called CT if you want to pull that I love how you guys are pulling all this up in real time this is amazing catacol ome methyl transferase okay about 44% of the population has this gene mutation what percentage 44% oh wow see how it say plays a crucial role in the metabolism of neurotransmitters particularly dopamine neopine phrine and epinephrine so what are those neurotransmitters those are your waking State neurotransmitters they're also your fight ORF flight neurotransmitters you ask anybody that's ever suffered from anxiety um ask them these three questions have you had it on and off throughout your entire lifetime most of the time they'll say yes have you um can you always point to the specific trigger that causes it most of the time they will say no I can be on a podcast just like this with you right now and just kind of get overwhelmed with anxiety right I can be driving home from work on an otherwise innocuous day and I can be overwhelmed by anxiety most people that have anxiety do not need a specific trigger they don't need to walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony and be afraid of heights or get on a crowded elevator and be afraid you know claustrophobic what they need is for catamin to rise so now the question question is how do we lower catac colomines because there are so many quote unquote mental illnesses that are linked to this gene mutation which is very easy to test for and I'm going to tell you how to supplement for it even if you don't test for it um because high levels of catac colam means what does high catacol mean oh it means anxiety it means anxiousness it means heightened state of fear it means sweating it means rapid heart rate so all of these conditions get diagnosed as illnesses or they get diagnosed as you know mental conditions or mental disorders when the truth is you have high catac colomines why do you have these because you're deficient in the raw material that breaks down catacol amines well what breaks those down um Sam e which is a an amino acid sosol methionine Capital Sam lowercase e which you can also get at GNC or you can get online um they these people need extra um significant dosages of complex vitamins they need uh form of B12 called hydroxycobalamin they need methylfolate so they need they need the basic nutrients and raw materials that if our soil had the right level of nutrients and if our food was not highly processed and we ate a whole food diet and we took basic supplements you would find that your body has the raw material it needs to break these kinds of neurotransmitters down what happens at night when you break down catamin your mind quiets another great way to do this is is by taking um magnesium magnesium 38 is actually you know very good for this I actually take a Magnesium Complex that has all all seven forms of magnesium in it uh how many supplements you take throughout the day um I take about nine that's it yeah 9 9 or 10 in the morning and uh and then I take a um uh a magnesium blend at night but but I also have a sleep routine you know we're such creatures of habit we design our days from the moment we get wake up to the moment we go to bed and what we should really design is bookending our sleep and then everything else will fall in line right so if I ask you what's your workout routine most people go I do this this this the bang bang bang bang bang you know I do hits cardio two days a week I do weight training you know do upper body lower body our alternate days they'll have a they'll have a workout routine most people have a routine to um you know operate their business they have regular business meetings but they don't have a routine to go to sleep and they don't have a routine to wake up timing the sleep and wake cycle of your body is your absolute human superpower so here's five things your audience could just do tonight if they're not already doing this just this week just pick a consistent time so say 10:30 at night I'm going to go to bed at 10:30 and then make that promise to yourself and keep the promise get into bed at 1230 10:30 even if you don't go to sleep if you're one of those people that ruminates at night um take magnesium like a magnesium 3 and8 or a magnesium breakthrough bio Optimizer magnesium breakthrough take a a magnesium at night if you really have an active mind before you go to bed do a contrast shower get in the shower um run the water as hot as you can stand it on the back of your spine step out of that stream of water turn it as cold as it will go and step into that stream of water and just deal with it sudden not not gradual bang shock the body like a cold shock protein so step into that stream of water for 30 seconds and just deal with it and then get out of the shower and dry off this will break the catacol aine when you get into your bedroom drop the temperature down colder than you think 65 to 69° F surgically remove every ounce of light from the room if you got an alarm clock on the nightstand throw a towel over it you know if you have fissures in the in the curtains try to try to close them up or get a cheap uh sleep mask get a full you know uh cotton sleep mask um it's hard to say don't don't use your phone in bed because everybody does so if you're going to use your phone in bed and just make sure that you turn the red light filter on and when you're done you throw it on airplane mode and and then do a breath work technique when you get into bed um which is just long slow inhales through the nose take a four or five second pause breathe out like you're breathing out through a straw and just imagine yourself kind of pulling all the thoughts from your head down into your chest and breathing them out I know that sounds really hokey but I promise you you won't even make it to 10 breaths um and and and start to do this every single night consistent bedtime contrast shower breath working bed night you know sleep mask cold environment it's not complicated that's simple do it's super not complicated man I mean I wish I could sell it so many people have a hard time with that going to sleep at night yeah if I put my head down I'm gone so for me it's not I I I don't Jennifer will always my wife will always say how do you do it like I don't and by the way I have a lot on my mind yes but the moment I go horizontal and I commit to going to sleep I'm gone now don't get me wrong about four or five times a year when I'm going to sleep with there just stuff is heavy and I got a lot I just can't throwout but that's normal but on a regular thing it's not hard for me to just hit the sack and go to sleep let me let me ask another question about um sex you talked about sex earlier said one of the best things to go to sleep is sex right studies you hear and you study a lot of different things how many times is too little too few and I'll tell you where I'm going with this cuz I'm trying to see what you're going to say about this I I didn't know how many times people had sex until I started having people would come up to me in my sales organization and would say hey we have sex about once a month and one of them was like we have sex about once every three months I'm like you guys been together 15 years what's going on here so we just don't have time we don't do this we don't do that what is too little when you're a certain age and your body's need you know needs to needs to have a certain release is there a number to it so you know the the benefits of sex believe it or not um are actually not from the Intercourse themselves they're from the rise uh the impact on a pleasure hormone called oxytocin it's it's also called The Love hormone they say that's what's in Cupid's arrow um because oxytocin is what creates the psychosomatic response it's what what allows you to create an image in your mind and have an erection or to see a man or see a woman and be aroused um which can actually cause physical changes right cause your heart rate to increase can cause your pupil to dilate and cause a man to have an erection cause a woman to have extra you know vaginal secretions your your body is actually having a psychosomatic respon psychological incident that causes a response in the body and this oxytocin which dogs have about a 100 times the oxytocin in their bloodstream that humans do which is why they're so damn loyal right I mean you can you know most people have pets know that you can leave for five minutes or five days you get the same response right you're like Cal down Fey I just went to the mailbox right like um so the the the it's so true right this is why they're so I a huge dog fan um but um so cuddling kissing um skin-to skin snuggling these have really positive physiologic consequences in the human body they actually cause the secretion of the pleasure hormone oxytocin and oxytocin has all kinds of positive effects sping is good for you dude spooning cuddling skin to skin long hugs kisses over smiling right now look at Robbie sers he's realizing he's G to go smooch his wife tonight he's like get we going spoon tonight you know this is you know part of the reason why you know we knew in the mortality space that broken heart syndrome was a very real thing um oh oh very real thing I mean there the mortality like how do you how do you see it on the tests you look at the duration of a marriage and the loss of a single spouse and you dramatically reduce the the life expect of the second spouse dramatically it's almost as accurate as as hip fractures because hip fractures were one of what we called the Triad of death because they were actually poorly understood most people think that elderly people fall and break their hip it's actually not what happens um uh their hip breaks and then they fall and so when break comes first before the fall instead of the Fall then the break the break causes the fall the fall doesn't cause the fracture that's correct wow so Grandma standing at the you know sink washing dishes and crack the femal head breaks off and she falls and then they say what happened I fell and broke my hip now your hip broke and then you fell the reason why because there's nothing particular about a hip fracture that leads to early death what what in older people the reason why the hip fracture is so significant is this is an indication that the skeletal system can no longer support its own weight you're pretty far progressed in the osteoporotic osteopenic C right you're you're way down the road on a brittle bone system um and so it's it's one of the what we call the tri out of death um but we knew in the mortality space that if you wanted to cut someone's life expectancy in half at any age put them in isolation isolation is the most dangerous and and uh destructive thing that you can do to a human being and I mean socially isolated isolated from their relationship you know elderly people that have had marriages for 40 50 60 years and then lose a spouse and are suddenly alone that is a dramatic accelerant for um mortality but isolation happens at very very young ages too we are becoming increasingly more isolated we are we are drastically out of touch with nature we are drastically out of touch with other human beings the worst thing we ever did during the pandemic I don't care what anybody says is social distancing residential quarantining masking you know this was horrible for for Humanity um you skyrocketing rates of of mortality related to loneliness if you look at the Blue Zone studies for example and you'll actually look at what why are hyper centenarians concentrated in certain areas of the world what were the things that were contiguous to all of the blue zones um because it wasn't diet right it wasn't carnivore keto paleo pescatarian vegan vegetarian was none of those things if you actually look at dieting and you went to Sardinia you'd say okay well it's a highest carbohydrate consumption in the world one of the longest life expectancies you go to Singapore one of the highest meat consumptions in the world one of the longest life expectancies you got a uh you know the Mediterranean very high fatty fish in oils very long life expectancy okay well everybody's living long and they're not a continuity between diet so the only continuity with diets was that they were all Whole Foods none none of those people were living that long on a processed diet the two things were that were not exchangeable that were non-negotiable were Mobility until later in life in fact in cordinia life expectancy the hyper centenarians was directly related to the greater the slope the steeper the hill you walked up every day get out of here the longer your life expectancy wow yeah you have a 93y old man walking up a 32 degre slope 10 blocks to go to church and four blocks over to the market back home wow lift rather the second what sense of purpose in community you can't exchange those so that is the part the isolation or the death of the loved one or heartbreak leads to this is why they say my grandfather died three months later my grandmother died that's exactly why it's called broken heart syndrome I actually just got ghost bumps when I said that good it's so visceral and so real you know in in those areas of the world in the blue zones for example there's no such thing as assisted care living right assisted care is Mom and Dad move back in with the kids until the day that they die why because their their only purpose may be to go out to the garden and get vegetables for for dinner that night but they have a purpose they have a role they have a community around them and we are we are surrounded by communities that are hyper isolating us technology is increasing the rate of isolation the rates of depression in young children um are skyrocketing the rates of autism attention deficit disorders um what we call behavioral disorders um uh uh impulse control disorders these are all skyrocketing why because there's no communal sense of no no relationships no no sense of purpose no sense of real Community our communities are in these um you know hyper electronic environments that actually do not they're not chicken sou for our soul um and so when you look at these these areas where life expectancy was the longest they had strong senses of community and so that makes sense I mean my um you know my dad had 13 heart attacks and he had six 13 heart attacks he he has three stance in his heart he 50% of his heart was black and six andram six andlast SS he's been on bler since God knows when and then he was he was smoking two packs of cigarettes a day he drank every single day like liquor 60 proof like this every day for as long as I know 15 20 years and then one day he decides to stop all of that and but he has always worked I've never seen him not work every day he works he at 82 about to be 83 April 10th and the doctor said he got 10 years to live when the doctor said that he was 40 4 44 yeah he he's 83 he's 82 about to 83 he's still here yeah God bless us all but he lives with us and he's got kids and grandkids it's almost as if the grandkids gave him second when Grace my niece was born there was something he looked forward to then when our nephew Shawn was born and then our four kids that community and the fact that he kept pushing against whatever it was when you're saying the 32 degrees of elevation and the way they're walking up that 92 years old whatever they're living long than somebody else said that had less uh whatever you want to call that friction or you know challenges you got to overcome it's a direct correlation let me let me change it to a different age category if you're parent of a young athlete okay and when I say young athlete I don't mean somebody that's just kind of training an hour a day or an hour and a half a day or all this stuff you know hey play sports likes to have fun all this stuff I'm talking about a kid that's training three four hours every day and Saturdays he's doing his two hours minus plus the games or whatever else he may have and travel and all this other stuff right loves it no pressure it's his choice no one's telling him you better do it he's choosing to do it and that's what he wants to do right how do you in this age he's going he's playing sports whoever it could be a girl she's going she's doing this thing how do you help this kid that is athletic has a shot at Next Level nowadays you know they're starting at 8 years old they're not no longer like 14 1 years old used to be 101 now it's down to 8 years old that they're looking at it what what do you do to help his chances physically MH to prevent injuries okay to help with speed decision-making process lowering the temperature for pressure when there there you don't panic so you can kind of go through it what are things you can do at that level at this level testosterone level energy all this stuff you know you're super healthy yeah what can a parent do to an athlete that they have as a child so three things you know number one I would um immediately get all of the folic acid out of their diet so folic acid is is an entirely man-made chemical um we've been lied to and told that it's vitamin B9 it's not we we make folic acid in a laboratory around 1993 Monsanto convinced the federal government that we needed to spray folic acid on our entire grain Supply um so all flour all bread all pasta all cereals grains of every kind are sprayed with a chemical called folic acid um folic acid does not occur anywhere naturally in nature you can't find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the Earth um so these are in Foods we don't call it sprayed with folic acid we call it fortified or enriched so fortified or enriched food enriched bleached white flour fortified whole grains fortified wheat um you spin around a box of Chee it'ss it's going to say um enriched uh wheat flour so fortified or enriched foods are sprayed with chemical folic acid the reason why I say get folic acid out of their diet is because the majority of these kids um will have a very difficult time processing folic acid so what does folic acid do um folic acid when you don't convert it rises it actually causes hyperactivity in the brain um it interferes with um speed timing agility hand eye coordination so the the fine motor movements and the things that will take an athlete from being a good eight and a half to a 10 right you know look at look at Tom Brady for example you know when aru greatest quarterback of all time you know you can't really make an argument for his physicality right he wasn't the biggest quarterback he wasn't the most athletic quarterback he wasn't the strongest quarterback what was it about him that you know very few of any quarterbacks had it was his timing right it's timing um you know the ability to have a trajectory moving away from you going you know increasing its distance and potentially speed away from you and then moving laterally across a field and then having to throw an object not to where the runner is but to where the runner's going and then to put it on the left shoulder depending on where the running back is versus the right shoulder that kind of timing is amazing so if he didn't cater to the Small Things the the timing would have you know eventually eroded this happens in UFC fighters happens in boxers it happens in athletes of all kinds um what happens in age is is not the loss of physical capability first it's the loss of hand eye coordination speed timing and Agility it's all the fine motor skills so if you actually want to improve that athletes um chances and give them an edge I would I would make certain that they are eating a diet that is free of folic acid um there are also a couple supplements I would put them on I would make sure that they're taking vitamin D3 about 5,000 I use a vitamin D3 daily at 11 years old at 11 years old yeah um assuming that they're a healthy full bodyi 11-year old um you know I would if they're above 60 if they're in the 60 80 pound range right um so if they're very frail and smaller I would reduce that dosage um I would also make sure at their age that they're on a very good omega-3 fatty acid supplement black seed oil uh really good fish oil supplement um so omega-3 fatty acids are really necessary for brain development they're they're excellent for uh for their joints um for all forms of recovery from athletic performance and then there are things you could do if you really wanted to really accelerate things you could add red light therapy you could add hydrogen Nano bath I would have them I would have them drinking hydrogen water even at that age um I personally think that hydrogenated water is arguably the most underutilized scientifically valid biohack in in the world I mean why why do you think so many people criticize that like I've seen reactions to all of us like I have videos about me that's negative hey Patrick P David this this this is that okay well Insurance network marketing okay great but why do you think people try to like if there's things that I see where people try to break it down with you is hydrogen hydrogen water why do you think that is to debate somebody on hydrogen water no one's ever willing to anyone that wants to criticize me on hydrogen water I will invite them onto my podcast and I will openly allow them to express whatever trepidations they have about hydrogen water it is I would love to see this I think I saw this on Twitter some one of them anyways I if I don't find i' love to see it anyone listening to this podcast who wants to come on to the ultimate human podcast my guest I will fly you in at my expense you can actually stay at my biohacking studio we will have I'm I'm very sincere about that and we will have an open debate about the benefits and the side effects of of hydrogen water what why don't we just why don't we look at what the research says right here and if you can find that there's there's a video of me but I don't know if that's where I'm criticized a lot of criticisms am I deserve you know sometimes I put things out that I read in articles and I don't check the the Publications body that little thing that I gave you um critics of hydr scientific evidence supporting the health benefits is weak with most studies being small and lacking rigorous methodology meaning there's not enough data definitively claim scientific okay so we do me a favor you go to Google um will you search um uh Journal of experimental gerontology um hydrogen water it was published in November of 2021 November 2021 Journal of experimental gerontology yeah pull that one up okay this was a anybody who wants to criticize double blind randomized peer-reviewed published clinical trials this is the effects of six months of hydrogen Rich water intake um on what's called molecular and phenotypic biomarkers these means um they're looking at um they're looking at infl inflammation they actually used a marker called tto to actually measure the methylation cycle in these adults of Aging in older adults the reason why I'm bringing you to this study and not the 13 other studies that I would love to debate on but this study in particular is because this was done in older ages right most of the time when you see studies in young athletes and healthy young men and women it's not as applicable so let's say let's go to older ages 70 and above it is a randomized controlled pilot trial okay so let's scroll down and see what some of these outcomes were hydrogen much water blah blah blah blah blah uh favor favorably affected several age related um features in the elderly so let's go and it increased their teler lengths those are the lengths of the chromosomes like one of the Hallmarks of Aging is the degradation of the distal ends of the chromosome called the telomere so the longer the telomere the the younger the biological age of that host so one of the measures that we use to check your biological age against your chronological age is we look at your telome if we can lengthen your Tel we are extending your lifespan um so can we scroll down um Okay so the molecular markers DNA chromosome here's uh look at all of the things that they measure and then we're going to see the outcomes the biomarkers assessed at Baseline in 6month followup were molecular markers in the blood DNA and chromosomes nutrient sensing protein and lipid metabolism oxidative stress mitochondria cellular syence meaning zombie cells inflammation brain metabolism cognitive function physical function and body composition as well as resting blood pressure facial skin features sleep outcomes and health rated quality of life so now let's see what happens happened when they actually used hydrogen Rich water for um for six months and this will be part of my debate with whoever wants to debate me the mean uh so a significant treatment time um so there was telome lengthening with the length increased after hydrogen-rich water intervention over Baseline um versus the control weather um there was significantly higher the uh oh methylcytosine uh deoxygenase so t methylcytosine de oxygenase is a marker for methylation methylation is the process that your cells are going through to take compounds that enter your body and convert them into the usable form one of the Hallmarks of a youthful bio biome is that your cellular biology converts things into the usable form very well it accelerated in the hydrogen Rich water group can you go down a little bit further um and uh they hold on it increased brain choline and na NAA levels in the frontal gray matter um brain uh creatine in the right parial um matter can we go down a little bit further um so the uh there was no significant differences were found in other outcomes except for a significantly improved chair stand performance this is where the you know sarcopenia which is age related muscle wasting right which happens um the older we get the faster this occurs so this is their ability to sit and stand right so the number of times they can actually sit stand their sit stand ratio significantly improved chair stand performance after HRV intervention compared to the control water it could be recognized as a possible anti-aging um agent that tackles several harm marks of Aging including loss of function and telr length study um telier length short this study was registered at clinicaltrials.gov yes you can go look this study up in fact if you go to can you go to hydrogen studies.com it's not my website by the way okay hydrogen studies.com and just go to view all studies okay there there are 1335 studies on hydrogen water hydrogen gas here you can actually go and you can deselect animals if you want to just see so go to all test subjects click that just highlight the uh humans on the right so get rid of the mice and the and the rats and the dogs um boom now just uh uh select all click select all boom now you're just oh sorry the select all collects humans and hit search top right so now it's just going to be human clinical trials efficacy and safety of hydrogen therapy in patients with early stage interstitial lungs disease successful treatment of myalgic and seom myelitis and chronic fatigue syndrome using hydrogen gas I mean it is mind numbing first of all hydrogen is the most prevalent um um element in the universe it's also the lightest element that we know of in fact if if you say that something is an antioxidant what does that mean blueberries or antioxidants like what does that mean it means that it's donating ions donating electrons right so um you can actually do a study for yourself at home just just order something called an orp meter oxidative reduction potential meter you can get it for 10 bucks on Amazon what this will do is it'll take any compound like a liquid you can put it in this bottle and you could measure the ability of this water to either cause inflammation or reduce inflammation okay so the more positive the orp the more it causes inflammation this FG bottle is going to be about a plus 150 so even though this water will hydrate you it will cause inflammation if you dropped a hydrogen taet in there and it eff vest into hydrogen gas and you drank that it would drop the orp to 400 so now you would take this glass of water this bottle of water and you would turn it into an antioxidant and if you look at I mean study after study I I I use one called um you can go to drink um um H2 tab.com go to drink H2 tab.com this is the one I take I'm actually a partner in this that's my son but go to science okay okay if you were scroll down here these are the clinical studies sorry keep going um these are the clinical studies where's the scientific studies it should say on there benefits um if you go to the bottom under science should show you the studies we linked them there somewhere science okay so resources science um so we should be able to um there were 24 studies done on that Elemental magnesium tablet alone and you look at giving it to to double blind studies like the full-blown the full-blown double blind studies um and these are the highest level of of research first of all it's safe across the board because hydrogen is the most prevalent element in the universe I mean it's it's um it's also the lightest element in the universe so what happens when you put excess hydrogen into the body um it becomes one of the most anti-inflammatory compounds we know of because hydrogen you can also bathe in it it will go right transdermal um so if you have knee hip shoulder rotator cuff you can literally bathe in it like in the bathtub yeah you know if if you go to Jon Jones page if you go to Jon Jones Instagram um it's it's going to be down there ways but um you know I started working with Jon Jones before his last UFC fight and one of the issues that he had if you keep going back before his fight November he did a post with he and I and we uh where he talked about there he is there I am sitting with him cut right there um so I have him getting in a red light bed I've got him getting in a you know I've got him doing oxygen uh therapy what's called ewat exercise with oxygen therapy I taught him a breath work technique um but John will tell you that when I you know Paro it into his Camp one of the issues that he had was he you know just because of his career he's waking up every day in excruciating pain at the time he was only training 5 days a week um and he was waking up in in in just pain every morning because of the Jiu-Jitsu and all the contact Sports and this is right before his his fight so we went out there I added two major things to his routine he started drinking hydrogen Rich water which is NSF certified it's just hydrogen and water and he started bathing in it every night for 25 minutes um by the 21st day he called me and he goes man I can't believe it I am waking up I am not in any pain wow and that's actually adding a sixth day of training to my training schedule I'm taking zero credit for his competency in the ring none none whatsoever but what I was able to do was get him out of Pain by bathing and drinking hydrogen Rich water going into his fight and I could give you athlete after athlete after athlete after athlete that this works in I mean the single best thing that you can it's about a dollar a day for those hydrogen tablets I used to promote these hydrogen water bottles but what I'm finding is the longer you use that bottle the less part per million hydrogen it makes and it's too expensive for people you know I want my message to be for the masses and so um for less than a dollar a day you drop an elemental magnesium tablet into that glass of water each time any water any water and it will automatically turn it into an antioxidant bomb you really if you really think about like um what do antioxidants do for us besides reduce oxidation um you know about 70% of our circulatory system circulation is actually not done by our heart people think the heart circulates all the blood in the body it it actually doesn't it's um it circulates it through the major arteries and the major veins but it doesn't do the microvascular circulation that's done by an activity called vasomotor kind of like a snake swalling a mouse and this is the most unders vasom motor vasom motor or Vaso motion right if you look up that activity that's how um capillaries will kind of move blood through a capillary kind of like a a yeah vasomotor or vasom motion um so I love that you guys are doing this is so awesome um regulation of blood flow in small vessels right so so what happens is you know blood gets brought to the entrance of these vessels and then this vasor motor activity continues the circulation so if you want to improve the appearance of your skin fine lines and wrinkles the blood supply to the back of your eyes your liver your lungs your pancreas your kidneys your brain if you want to improve your microvascular circulation which is 70% of your circulatory system you can do things like expose your skin to sunlight get in a red light therapy bed um exercising your vascular system by cold water immersion and heat exposure to actually dilate and vasoconstrict and you can take hydrogen you can drink hydrogen water long how long of doing that really love to debate somebody how long how long of doing that do you see the results Hy immediately really if you took three I I don't know do I have some here is my team still here never had it I have it right now if you want to bring one of your one I literally have it right now I'll bring you I'll bring them in here we'll drop three of them in that bottle right there do it right now see somebody bring you right now I'll drink it so for me every time can you tell my team to come in here and bring hydrogen tablets Tony will Tony if you can bring and so you're saying put how many of them in there we're going to put three of them in there called hydrogen bomb and does it taste like anything does it am I going to feel this one will taste like raspberry it's flavored with raspberry but um but they they they make an unflavored version and what's the other thing that I saw was with the the metal thing what is the metal uh uh do you know what I'm talking is that anything or that's nothing yeah that's um that won't do anything close to what hydrogen tablets will do so if you to that's Elemental magnesium right so if which one you able to do this is fine yeah just do that one okay drop two or three of them in there it's going to take about 50 seconds to dissolve you're going to get to 12 parts per million SM amazing what this is you said blueberry or Ras Rasberry oh my God so it's actual raspberry so just hold that up you see the gas that's going in there so it's pure Elemental magnesium all 24 of those studies are on that site drink2 tab.com just go there and read the study do not take my word for it or go to hydrogen studies.com um you know my my son and I just did the great world race um which was seven marathons on seven continents in seven days holy yeah I only ran half marathons and I ran one full Marathon but my my son ran all seven marathons get out of here on all seven continents how old is he in seven days he's 24 good for him yeah Brea I'm so proud of him and um and he started at 210 lbs he was like 189 when we got home but uh yeah he's a beast there he is uh that's us in the great world race that's us in um in uh Cape Town South Africa so at that time he had already run a marathon in Antarctica I'd run 18 miles of the marathon I couldn't make the rest of it and um he ran the full marathon in Antarctica we flew 5 and a half hours to Cape down and then he ran the marathon in Cape down I mean he looks like a look at those quads did he was he an athlete or what oh yeah he's a rugby player and U I mean he's built more like a rugby player than a distance M I don't know what possessed him to run to when he signed up for this race I I was like Cole I hate to State the freaking obvious brother but you've never run a marathon but what were you going to say did hydrogen water play a role hydrogen water is the only reason why he made it across all seven continents so that is all gas in there that density you see is all high hydrogen gas you're going to drink that it's going to go right through your stomach wall through your esophagus through the intestinal wall I'm going to wait for the whole thing cuz I still see three of them going through it I'll wait yeah and it's going to massively reduce inflammation that's that's him out on the run in um Antarctica that's the first marathon we did was 26.3 Miles there and then um dude that's got to be sick where that's where Antarctica get out of South Pole really yeah he's actually set a record at uh the clinic where we went and did his V2 max testing he had a really crazy V to Max so how many miles did he run in Antarctica he ran 184 miles in 7 Days um but in Antarctica he ran 26.3 miles that's that's Antartica I mean how freezing how cold is it it was minus 28 with a wind chill of minus 48 so and remember inauguration where DC Rob we're freezing our tails up we're like dude dude I was there too that was crazy oh my God it was cold so this isus 48 minus 48 then you get on a plane you fly five and a half hours in land and got off the plane and ran a marathon in CET Town South Africa and then we got back on the plane and flew 11 hours 14 hours to Perth Australia ran what does he do for work what's he do fulltime he works for me fulltime um and he is the co-founder of that H2 tabs um oh so this is a he's a co-founder of this MH okay so I think all of it is so now do I mix it or just drink it whack it right back Mar it right back um if you do that in the morning you won't even e Coffee um and I know it sounds like I'm here to sell you hydrogen tablet I actually prefer that everybody take the hydrogen tablet but you can get hydrogen water generators for your your house you can get hydrogen tablets you can you can get hydrogen bottles but get hydrogen gas into your body so it's not tough to drink just so you you know how sometimes there's flavor I don't drink coffee at all I haven't had it since uh 25 um for me I'm naturally wired right so I don't I don't you know um seven years ago I stopped the last time I had soda was July of 2019 because of my former CFO Ian Benedict wow you remember July 20 oh because we were at breaker's hotel and I'm sitting there I'm saying hey Ian how come because I used to drink three Coke Zeros a day I'm like how come you don't drink it he says I haven't had a soda for seven years I'm like well you know what I'm going to start today see if I can go a week I went a week and I haven't had anything since July of 2019 because of it wow so Paul saladino was here what six weeks ago five weeks ago I don't know when he was here A friend of your he stayed with me when he was when he was yeah so when he was here um you know I was asking him about Celsius and some of these other things he says listen this is the worst I haven't had anything since the last time he was here so every time it's one habit one thing I try to adjust to see what it does for me I've never had hydrogen water I'm curious you know how I'm going to feel throughout the day with this so this is everyday three tablets is what you're suggesting and does it matter you know how sometimes they say don't drink water from plastic you want to drink water from this Ian I would prefer you don't drink it from plastic but you know whether you're drinking the filter water bottle water um you know I I don't think anybody should drink tap water but whatever vessel you're drinking water out of just drop a hydrogen tablet in it it'll take 50 seconds for that to dissolve you're saying three or just one three throughout the day three throughout the day um but at least one in the morning if you're if you're tired or you lack sleep or you're exhausted and you that drop in inflammation will will wake you up not because it's stimulating you there's nothing no stimulant in there but you will notice that if you're dragging and you do one or two of those hydrogen tablets and you put a high dose of hydrogen gas into the body it will it will wake you up because it will reduce that fog and inflammation I wrote another thing down that I'm curious about a few memory okay uh there's a benefit there's benefit to having memory now obviously moving forward I don't think having a strong memory is as beneficial as it used to be because nowadays you got Google Chat gbt grock there's so many easy things like people who used to be able to memorize things that's no longer as a Val just like C calculators came out and those who can do math in their in their mind great you can do it anybody else can do it it's a great equalizer right but there's still benefits in having a good memory no question what helps what can you do to strengthen I have an exercise that I do but I'm curious to know to the average person that's thinking how can I improve my memory what can you do well there's three things you can do to improve your memory I mean first of all I would lower your glycemic profile I would dramatically reduce um sugar and carbohydrate intake not not not go keto not go Atkins uh you know or Conor per se but we know now that Alzheimer's is Type 3 diabetes if you put in Ty just because I know he's going to Google it so I might as well just get ahead of him type three diabetes um or type three diabetes Alzheimer's bum um the tur type 3 diabetes is is uh they say it's not recognized as a um similar seding type two diabetes in Alzheimer's if you if you keep scrolling down interesting um they hypothesize that Alzheimer's disease may be a form of three diabetes that specifically affects the brain because you know a lot of uh people don't realize this it's not just the pancreas that makes insulin the brain is so crack addicted to um sugar that it can make its own insulin um and so um and what the brain wants the brain gets when the brain craves sugar um it will activate dopamine receptors on the back of the tongue I think they're The rf12 receptors so that it gives you a sort of a reward for giving it sugar so we know that insulin resistance in the brain um there's evidence to support the connection between insulin resistance and Alzheimer's so insulin resistance in the brain um you know when you when you don't have places to store sugar in the body we convert sugar into something called glycogen we store it in the liver in the brain there's no place to store it there're neurosynaptic Junctions these little spaces between nerves so insulin resistance has a massively negative impact on the brain so before I tell you what to take to improve um memory it's what to not do to improve your memory so you want to lower your glycemic profile so lower your blood sugar um your your what's called your hemoglobin A1c the 3month average of your blood sugar will do a lot for your cognitive function that's why if you ever notice how sharp you are and awake and alert and aware when you're fasted or when you're hungry like when you're hungry and you're going searching for food you're actually on your game you feel alert you feel awake you feel focused you feel cognizant you feel clear why is that because your blood sugar is low and so um on the low side so the lower you can keep your hemoglobin A1c you know and a really good hemoglobin A1c is 5.2 5.3 or less um and the more insulin sensitive you are the sharper your memory is going to be um the second thing is that memory is directly related to um circulation the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease and as you deprive the brain of oxy oxygen which is called hypoxia which by the way is a definition of death hypoxia like of oxygen to the brain but as you just take marginal deficits in the amount of oxygen in the brain you take significant deficits in your cognitive function so Mobility exercise breathing um will do more for your cognitive function than any kind of neurotropic because you will increase the circulation to the brain and a lot of people don't realize that you can also improve the capacity for your blood to carry oxygen by managing your levels of red blood cells in hemoglobin so for example the reason why hormone therapy May improve or does improve cognitive function like when when men that are deficient um begin in testosterone for example or women that are deficient in testosterone get on testosterone replacement therapy or they fix the nutrient deficiencies like DHEA and D3 that cause hormone deficiency their cognitive function returns or their memory improves or the short-term recall improves and why is that because when you normalize the hormone level you normalize or increase the level of red blood cells which carry oxygen and it brings more oxygen to the brain this is why testosterone deficient men have memory issues testosterone men that are not deficient in testosterone that have have a tendency to have less um memory issues so hormone therapy can be a big play a big role in cognitive function HRT or trt oh no question if you I know he's going to do it anyway so we might as well just do it but if you go to the Journal of American Urology which is considered the Bible for male endocrine therapy just go to Journal of American Urology testosterone um and then open that and scroll down to line uh 13 where it says counseling regarding testosterone deficiency um uh did you say Journal of American Urology there you go oh that was it okay so scroll down to line 13 uh number 13 it sorry is that the actual wait that's not the actual study Journal of American Urology testosterone go back Rob if you can go back Journal americ right there on the bottom tone yeah there you go bum okay um evaluation of management of testosterone deficiency okay that this is by by the way this is one of the better peer-reviewed published journals in the world on male endocrine therapy so we're going to go to the Bible for a second keep scrolling down until you get to line line 13 which will say uh um counseling regarding the management of testosterone deficiency um 13 there we go counseling regarding the treatment of testosterone deficiency sorry uh so so this is what a physician should say to a patient that is deficient in testosterone if they're thinking of taking testosterone therapy clinicians should inform testosterone deficient patients that low testosterone is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease not the other way around um if you scroll down again uh patients should be informed that testosterone therapy may result in improvements in erectile function low sex drive anemia bone mineral density lean body mass Endor depressive symptoms the reason why all of these are affected by all of these energy fatigue lipid profiles quality of life cognitive function right there um is because and if you if you go further into the studies and I won't bore you with those but um is because you are improving the the presence of oxygen in the bloodstream and so the more oxygen you have the better your cognitive function so first I would lower my sugars I would try to maintain you know uh low uh low levels of high glycemic sugars in in my in my blood I would if you are young you wouldn't you shouldn't start hormone therapy but you should have your hormone levels checked and see if you are deficient in the nutrients that your body needs to make hormones about 70% of you know patients that qualify for hormone therapy don't need hormones they need the nutrients that the body needs to make hormones so if you're clinically deficient for example in DHEA or you have high levels of something called shbg sex hormone binding globulin um or you're clinically deficient in vitamin D3 these are nutrients that affect the the the production metabolism and conversion of the hormone testosterone and if we don't look at these things we put people on hormone therapy too early rather than putting them on the nutrients to make their own hormones and so I just wanted to show you this because this is a this reminds me of the book I read many years go ageless man I don't know if you've heard about the book ageless man it's they did the study on uh uh was it rats or I don't know what they were testing on to see how your testosterone being lower uh affects your heart attacks your heart and how receptors for testosterone in the Heart Alone yeah this is actually the book by the way yeah this is H that's the book that's the book that it came out about eight years ago uh it's very interesting when uh it's not a popular book it's not something that you know it's got read it but it was actually very interesting book to read to understand a little bit more about zoom in a little bit on the cover of the book W how to cure prevented disease of Aging Alzheimer depression Parkinson hypertension conary coronary disease heart infract slip disc prostate impotence knee I mean it's like all of it and it's a simple book it's not a big book to read you know what's amazing about that is that this is exactly what we discovered in our in our um research in mortality is that so often so many things go wrong so if you just look at that Myriad of symptoms right hypertension Alzheimer's Parkinson's cholesterol obesity slip disc Pro you know prostate impotence hip hip osteoarthritis that seems like the entire world's going to hell in a hand basket right so if you treat these like spokes on a wheel these look like independent variables all going wrong there's a cardiac issue there's a mental issue there's a bone issue there's a circulatory issue there's a cognitive issue there's one issue causing everything and this is what happens in in and I believe goes lost on modern medicine very often is usually one thing goes wrong that causes everything you don't have multiple systems going wrong right I mean I you know people that have an autoimmune disease tend to have multiple autoimmune diseases why is that because it's a failure of the immune system or not a failure of the immune system immune system is usually acting properly because we don't go and find out why the immune system is attacking our tissue probably 40% of your audience listening to this podcast right now has some form of autoimmune condition autoimmune thyroid Hashimoto Crohn's sugin all you know a whole number of things and and what modern medicine would have you believe is that you know you you woke up one day and your immune system is is attacking your tissues right so so if you have Crohn's disease uh you woke up one day and your immune system started manufacturing antibodies to your colon or if you have Hashimoto you woke up one day and the immune system started to attack your thyroid and we immediately assume that the immune system has gone wrong that the immune system's made a mistake so we need to suppress the immune system and we need to put antiinflammatories in the body instead of saying let's just assume that God didn't make a mistake let's just assume that the immune system is acting properly we just need to find out why so in other words it's attacking the co colon yes but it's doing it for a reason let's figure out why and the big whys are mold motoin Metals viruses parasites those those five you test for those five you will get to the root of in my opinion the majority of all autoimmune conditions but we believe that autoimmune conditions happen because the immune system is spontaneously dysfunctional there are so many people with autoimmune Hashimoto and what did they do they just put them on medication and watch the immune system just slowly attack you know the thyroid but the truth is when when you have when you have pathogens in the body like mold a microtox a virus a parasite and you have a healthy cell and if they're listening to this they can't see this but um pathogens don't hide like this right they hide like this so in other words let's say that this is a a virus mot toxin or heavy metal um and it's floating around the bloodstream it's not going to hide outside of the cell it's going to hide inside the cell now the immune system sees this Invader how does it get to that pathogen it manufactures an antibod to your cell to get to this it's not after this cell it's not after your thyroid but if you take heavy metals and you embed them in your thyroid tissue your immune system will manufacture Auto to antibodies to the tissue to get to this so it's just like if if you know if crime is committed and and the offender ran into your building and lock the door the police would bust that door down to get to the offender immune system will do the same thing it will bust through the wall of your cell by manufacturing an antibody to get to The Invader it's not after the cell it's not after the friendly tissue it's after the Invader so why don't we support the immune system and say hey why did I wake up one day and I have autoimmune antibodies to my thyroid well maybe you have heavy metals embedded in the thyroid right maybe a mold mot toxin uh so I I I I always you know try to preach that there's there's so much hope for us um you know by getting back to the basics nutrify the body putting the raw materials in that God gave us to to to allow our bodies to to function properly and as soon as something goes wrong not assuming that you've had a disease or pathology happen to you that something deficient has happened within you fixing that deficiency can fix that condition it's by the way um I can listen to you for three more hours and we can go through a bunch of different things when when I was today I saw some of the stuff cuz the first time I heard uh about you was when you and Cardone started doing stuff together then from there I saw the Dana stuff and then you and I uh uh met at the UFC thing and we started talking and then earlier today when the guys we were doing the final prep for the podcast we went on the 10x uh uh Health whatever the website was and when I thought about that the health I thought about you I I don't think I don't see Cardone as a health guy I see him as a real estate guy think of you as a health guy and and I saw what's going on recently with you what happened between the two of you it's so sad I mean uh my wife and I like so many other business owners were just completely duped um by Grant as partner uh Brandon Dawson you know they built an industry on creating the Hope um that you can be successful in business by um by doing his real estate courses or by allowing Cardone Ventures they have a um an entity called Cardone Ventures and supposedly it's a business scaling uh they're professionals at business scaling they're actually kind of professionals at business scamming you know they when when we got into business with them um you know my wife and I started a company called streamline Medical Group and we started it because we wanted to make an impact on humanity and we really wanted to shift what was going on in in modern medicine um we treated Grant Cardone he had a he had a great relation he had a great experience with us and then he said he was going to buy us and he was going to just blow our business up we were going to scale um to the Moon and what we realized was that really what they wanted to do was take they they took over our business now look I take responsibility for this because I signed a really bad contract um with some really bad people and I I didn't know at the time because I was like this wide-eyed entrepreneur and I wanted to make this huge impact on humanity and you know and and Brandon Dawson and Grant were talking about you're gonna be build a billion- dollar company we scaled all of these companies turned out to be complete nonsense essentially what they did was they paid us nothing uh for the company um they strung the payouts uh out over about three years we got a quarter of a million dollars at the closing which um we were then forced to put into Cardone Capital um and we put it into Cardone Capital before Grant Cardone told me that he was under investigation by the feds uh that a two-year investigation by criminal investigation was underway at Cardone Capital um and you know we we put the money in when when Grant Cardone knew that he was under under investigation he didn't disclose that to us for another two and a half years um and we got into business with them and you go to these events and they're so intoxicating there's like celebrities on the stage and there's fireworks and you know Grant's showing you his Planes and his and his and his Oceanfront mansions and Brandon's talking about all these businesses that that that he's scaled and what you realize is happening is they are selling the dream of success UC not success and they built a company that's a fee based company that is meant to strip fees from from these uh uh young companies three to eight million companies strip fees out of these companies take equity in these companies promise them that you're going to scale their company but not have any obligation to scale the company so the entrepreneur is obligated to pay fees Cardone Ventures is not obligated to scale their their business and they they put them in these bear trap contracts I mean as soon as we announced the lawsuit against card own Ventures my Law Firm got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of calls from young entrepreneurs like my wife and I that had been scammed the same way that we had been essentially they build this massive dream but the contracts don't reflect what they're promising you and because you're so intoxicated by this dream of a billion dollar company and changing thousands and thousands of Lies you sign these agreements because they seem like great people and then all of a sudden you realize that you've actually not just sold your company you've sold your soul and they want to control every word that you say I mean uh I I went on on The Joe Rogan podcast November of 2020 uh three coming out of that podcast we did 20,000 genetic tests did 17 million that month in revenue and Brandon Dawson and Cardone ventur sent me a cease and to because I wore the wrong t-shirt and didn't use an affiliate link that would drive all of those leads into the system that would turn them into other courses right and but my my objective when we started was not to to pay your company fees to build your business my objective was to get this information to the masses and then what they did behind our back was the most Sinister thing that happened and this is all in our lawsuit so I'm not defaming them um uh what they did behind our back was my wife sage and I were partners with Grant and Brandon um we were killing it in the genetic testing Market I believed in the gene test I believed in the supplements it took me two and a half years to formulate the supplement that we used to fix these genetic breaks in tens of thousands in fact hundreds of thousands of people were benefiting from it we were we were really addressing the masses we were killing it we were doing 17 million a month in Revenue we were doing 20,000 new Gene tests we couldn't even keep inventory on the shelves then what they did without telling us was they went out and they bought a company outside of our company they bought a genetic testing lab in Austria they bought a manufacturer of supplements in Austria and without telling us because Brandon Dawson was the CEO of both companies the company he was partnered with my wife and I and Cardone Ventures he forced 10x Health to do business with the company that he bought outside of our 10x Health company he forced us to do business with this company halfway around the world we didn't realize when he was pitching it to us why he was so insistent that we we start taking patients DNA that we were testing in the United States and ship it halfway around the world so now we we do a cheek swab in the US we ship your or they ship your DNA to Austria it gets run in a lab in Austria and then they make your supplements in Austria and they ship your supplements back from Austria back to the United States and so when he presented us with this new genetic test I couldn't understand why is he pushing this so hard I could Brandon this this genetic test is is terrible first of all the gene Snips and the tests we do in the United States are not even matching the the the genetic results that you're getting overseas we're shipping supplements from halfway around the world through customs they're getting trapped and Customs are getting sent back we're not even telling the people here that we're sending their DNA outside of the country um they would put DNA swabs in refrigerators for weeks and weeks and weeks before they would even ship it overseas the supplements were woly underdosed um for for helping uh the the patients that we were trying to sell this to my wife had panic attacks I had massive headaches and got acid reflux on them uh they a lot of the compounds hadn't been tested on on humans yet or not tested in in human trials and so we we got to the point where we said look I'm not going to sell this test you you've you've taken the successful genetic test and supplements that's helping hundreds of thousands of people and now you're doubling the price of the genetic test you're taking it from $600 to $1,200 you're quadrupling the price of these supplements it's $300 a month and you have to buy three months so it's $900 out of pocket for the average family which means a family of four is out of pocket $20,000 to do a simple genetic test which you could take your your Gene results and run it through chat gbt and get the exact same results so I'll take tell you right now if you have a genetic test you've done anywhere in the world run it through chat gbt and it'll tell you what the supplement get out of here absolutely man it's per perfectly accurate I'll put a link to to how to do it on chat GPT for for for free so so now we have a genetic test that's doubled in price quadrupled in supplements supplements that haven't been tested you know um cheek swabs were send in halfway around the world and then bang the shoe dropped we found out they went out and spent $7 million which they took out of 10x health in the form of a distribution bought a company outside of it and shoved that company down our throats and I said I'm not selling this genetic test and they said if you don't sell this genetic test we'll terminate you and they kept their word they terminated me and they terminated my wife in a company that we sold our primary residence to start and and we didn't do everything perfectly and um you know they put $250,000 in our pocket to buy this company which I immediately put into card own Capital um so we never took any money off the table when the company started making money they stripped $9 million out in in distributions to themselves hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in totally unnecessary fees because Cardone Ventures which owned 82% of our company has this thing called the Strategic business unit which is a bunch of untrained young entrepreneurs with no specific expertise in the area of business that they sell services in and even though they owned 82% of our company they still charged massive fees every month which they paid to themselves to scale our business our business wasn't scaling our because of the Strategic business unit our business was scaling because the message was resonating you don't you don't think he um so when you're saying 17 million that one month is of that business that they owned 82% of that business at 77 million in a month W that's pretty explosive so you don't think the 10x brand and Cardone promoting and talking about it helped get it off the ground it help me a lot I mean I never for first of all I I I owe a debt of gratitude to grant cardome for even taking the risk of saying that he wanted to partner with our company I I don't take that away from him at all I you know in fact a lot of my issues are not with Grant I mean I think I think Brandon Dawson is his partner is going to be the downfall the entire organization um I think you know so you and Grant are good you don't have issues Grant I don't have I don't have real issues with Grant I mean's got a few issues with me because I I left I mean basically they said either sell this test or we terminate you and I said I'm not selling the test I'm not I am not going to use my reputation to shove this thing down the throat of of patients that I care about the you know some of the the the clinicians that have been in my business since we started that business some of the employees that are there some of the uh practicing clinicians are some of the the best people in in the in the entire world you want to hear something amazing so so they they uh what is that Rob they're now launching the um so in January 4th um you know I I have the ultimate human it's my uh podcast uh they went out on January 4th and bought ultimate human.com I have the ultimate human they bought ultimate human.com and now they're launching ultimate human analysis the the 10x brand has been so damaged and so destroyed um and it had look at that see any similarity between that logo and this logo that's card own Ventures are you serious card ventur you joking or are you serious I wish I was joking they just started this yeah so Brandon Dawson went out while I was his business partner in March of 2024 while we were still business partners while sage and I were running our podcast and feeding leads to to 10x health and boosting 10x Health Brandon Dawson went out and bought a trademark from a doctor uh trademark called uh ultimate human analysis never even told us we found out he bought the trademark a few months later and he goes oh I bought this trademark to protect you guys and we're were like well why would you buy an ultimate human trademark I've got the ultimate human podcast he goes yeah I brought it to protect you guys so he went out and bought this trademark sat on it I sued him on the 26th of December on the 28th of December he went out and bought in the name of that trademark he bought the social media domains ultimate human analysis then on January 4th a few uh weeks into our lawsuit he bought ultimate human.com and now he's starting ultimate human Community the ultimate human look at the font look at the coloring look at the letters um the brand has been so tarnished that the Grant and Brandon just dropped the 10x brand like a stone and now they're chasing the you know obviously the ultimate human brand we'll see how it goes but it's just a sad story man because I I really belied what those guys said I believe what I heard from the stage um uh it was it was a horrible experience you know I I um at the time where we knew we could no longer do business with them I told Grant we wanted out and he said I don't even like the space anyway why why don't you guys make me an offer to buy my shares and so my wife and I ran ran around Wall Street you know trying to raise money we raised uh about $75 million and um I asked Grant to play back gam in one night and I went up there and I said you know look we we need to have a divorce I don't want it to be a public divorce I don't want to hurt the patients I don't want to hurt the clients I certainly don't want to hurt the employees that were with me from the beginning these clinicians that have been with me from the beginning some of the some of the most in intentional good people really good practitioners are still on the the deck of that ship and um I made him an offer he seemed excited about the the offer he went to his partner Brandon Dawson Brandon was like absolutely not scary trying to steal the business and I said look just just so that you know that this is a an honest offer um I will not only pay you this valuation for your shares but you can also buy my wife and I out at the same valuation so um oh it's either we do it to you or you do it to us I'll either buy your 82% out at this valuation and at the time I I I'm offered him 65% could buy at the $75 million valuation $65 million valuation so they could buy me my our 18% and have the entire company or we would buy their majority interest they said it's too little for you to buy our shares and it's too much for us to buy your shares so in other words um we don't think you're giving us enough money but it would be too much that valuation would be too much for your shares so so they forced us to stay in a Loveless marriage and then they wanted us to sell this abject failure of a gene test which they know is does not work they try to hire celebrities and and influencers to shove this this test down people's throats it's it it the market is picking up on the inauthenticity of the messaging you know because the intention when it becomes solely to make money and and and not the intention is not to help people with their well-being the rate of collapse was just cataclysmic you know um and so I mean sad but but but you know so then we end up I I thought you guys were because this business is it's not a business I'm interested in getting into because there's too many technicalities to it and I I I leave it to the experts to do what they want to do with this trust me like we have a lot of right now we have a guy that wants to do a big sponsorship for one of our events and I cannot tell you how many questions we're asking before we take sponsorship money we don't even take sponsorship money the last 18 months we gave away $6 million because we're not we're just not doing it on the podcast because of that specific reason but I thought for sure you guys were going to work together for many years I thought so and do great things and it's unfortunate to hear because I think his strength of marketing and just driving and your ability to go out there and present and you come across very likable trusting you just said sometimes I've made mistakes when I said this you know so it it oh I've definitely made mistakes no no but what I'm saying is all I'm saying is your approach gets me and others to say okay I'm willing to give this guy shot listen to them especially if somebody doesn't know who you are they haven't spend time with you but I thought you guys were going to do big things together it's un unfortunate happen here's the thing we were doing big things together what we were doing was working it was the incessant level of greed that they said we're going to take what's actually really working what's scaling and what is helping the masses and we're going to go we're going to buy a new company for ourselves we're going to hold it for ourselves and we're going to force all of this this this deal flow that all these people that are coming into the funnel um that were largely coming from like the podcast and Stage talks and everything else you know and and and yes I will say gr Cardone did a lot to elevate uh my awareness and I owe him Deb of gratitude uh for that but then you know greed just takes over and and you say well we're making 17 million a month we could make 50 million a month if we double the price of the test if we own the genetics company if we own the supplements if we quadrupled the price of of you know the the the the the monthly supplements and people and Gary will just shove it down their throat and then they ran into a brick wall I said listen man you bought bought our company you didn't buy our soul and it's sad because I want to go back out in the market and help people I I've got 21 more months on my non-compete so I got to sit quiet in the United States and before I can really get back to what I love to do so I have to go outside the United States um uh to do it while we see how the lawsuit plays out but it is what it is all the best too both of you guys I'm sure Grant's going to do well I always say Grant and I we had a friendship many many years ago and we we uh they had a fallen out after I did an interview with somebody who wasn't too happy about and we didn't keep in contact I think we spoke we spoke one time and visited one time in the last six years seven years and it was a great conversation to see what he wants to do next but uh when I watch him his wife and his daughters you can say whatever you want to say they love their father and husband you got to respect that not he he is a great dad actually I actually spent a lot of time around him um and ironically even Elena that that I'm suing right now um and and they're great parents you know behind the behind closed doors you know when I would spend time at their house I mean they're very intentional with their their kids and um you know you see a lot of things on social media but behind the scenes he he actually is he is very good dad and elen is good good mother too I mean they really care about their daughters and they they're intentional about the way they're raising them they they spend a lot of time with them you know you go over to a lot of wealthy people's houses and the kids are always tucked over somewhere with the nanny you know it's not like that you know I just unfortunately think that there an incessant level of greed um you know I think there's good and evil in every person right and unfortunately that happens in families that happens in businesses that happens in siblings that happens in you try to do every and a lot of times you know what I've learned here's what I've learned I'm a big fan of prenuptial agreements and a lot of people are like why would you want to do that I'm eliminating future arguments where if we can put it on paper and at first you kind of like but we love each other we don't need to do this we don't to just do just put it on paper that what if this happens you do this what if that happens we do this what if this happens you do this okay any relationships that were business or family whatever the more things were documented on a piece of paper to agree on my wife and I first uh second date I bought her a book want questions to ask before you get engaged why we talk about so many different things how we raise our kids how many kids I want to have financially who manages the finances how many days can you go without me being on the road and da the fith the politics it was was such a great exercise spoke right here I bought a few thousand copies and gave it away to all my single guys on my team like guys read this I cannot tell you how many and eventually I I'm going to read it even though I'm married I have a great marriage it's an unbelievable book that every young man and women by the way the whole book is literally just 101 questions there's nothing in a book it's a question page question page wish had one for business and I could have read it before I got into business with carard venters by the way you know what that's actually Rob can you text me that idea it's actually very good to say 101 questions to ask before you get into business with someone I would actually entertain writing a book like that I would would read can you put that can you text me for that I think that would be something that we ought to consider because a lot of people think about it that way but if you go through guy messages me says hey I'm thinking about going through with this partnership and we're going to do it this way and if after a year we do this we're gonna merge the two companies together I'm like dude I got 20 questions for you what's going to happen with this what if the other person stops working what's the arrangement to buy back how are you going to evaluate the company to buy it back if the person says no they don't want to buy it back does it trigger something for you to be able to sell it to this do they have to go out every one of these things if I don't do it upfront if you don't do it upfront we're a little bit guilty in you know the you know what my my wife took everything I had really yeah and you were worth 50 million before you got married yes and you didn't put an upsh agreement no you deserve it yeah I I I you know I do bear a lot of that responsibility myself you know looking back I was so caught up in like in in the dream and and and there was a fear that we didn't know how to scale the business there was the hope that we could build this into something massive you were the brand I thought of you as the brand so for me you're the wnc yeah you're the product jobs without wnc jobs without wnc doesn't have Macintosh doesn't have apple doesn't have the product you know we the consumers watched you for you know here's what he's talking about very interesting guy I'm going to try that very interesting I'm gonna try this w Really Dana I'm going to try this W I never thought about it I'm gonna try this right so that's the part when a businessman it's it's it's you know it's the saying goes when a man with experience meet meets a man with money the man with the money let's just say the man with experience meets a man with money SL idea okay mhm the man with the money idea leaves with the experience the man with the experience leaves with the money and the idea did you get it so that's kind of how this works out the guy with experience knows because he's been through this a million times the guy would exper the idea or the money is like I'm just so excited to do something like this it's purely coming from an enthusiasm place it's innocent it's beautiful it's it's a you know so but if those two can find a way to make it work when crazy together it was amazing um and you know we both had the same Mission we wanted to help the masses we wanted it to be affordable we wanted it to be scalable and it was scaling and it was but then the podcast you know the ultimate human podcast became so popular um they just constantly cease and desist and um you know they were upset I was talking about hydrogen water talking about amino acids and I was like guys the only way to get to Optimal Health is not just our supplements or just our red bed or just our Gene test we have to be authentic when we deliver this information to people I mean if you go back and listen to this podcast probably 85% of what I said is not going to cost people much of anything and if it does you're not even buying it for me um and I believe that that's the way the authenticity of the message makes makes an impact because you can educate people but if you don't Inspire them to make some kind of change you really haven't done much of anything um and and it's you know it's really sad because it was working and I think just the incessant level of greed and then you know once this lawsuit became public we we opened this hotline for people to call and it's just absolutely ringing off the hook I mean our lawyers are deluged with people that have the exact same experience as my wife and I I mean dozens and dozens and dozens of businesses families relationships ruined because they believed and what was being told them from the stage by Cardone ventures in in these intoxicating environments they signed these agreements and then they got absolutely crushed it's a shame well uh something tells me you're going to do fine and something tells me they're going to do fine I think sometimes I hope so I mean I really hope that the company suce you I think you you I think you're going to do fine I I think uh uh uh for you to be out there talking there's a market that wants to hear what you have to say there's a big market for like you know there's a guy Dr Mike I don't know if you know who this guy is on on YouTube there's a Dr Mike guy that has you know 13 million subscribers and wow during Co this guy was the only guy that would interview fouchy fouchi wouldn't go on any YouTube channel except for this guy Dr Mike one day eventually he agrees to do a interview with me and another lady that I'm having on he says yeah for sure absolutely let's do it I'll debate anybody and then he avoids it I'm a good-look young guy YouTube's putting him all over the place very good communicator he made a video about he reacts to everybody he's got a lot he he's he gets eyeballs right but you know what happens the moment he thought of himself above and beyond everyone and he no longer wanted to sit down across the table from others and the only place fouchy trusted to go to was who and we were supposed to trust the science and God knows how many of the things that fouchi said ended up being inaccurate that they had to put a pardon on the guy and to go through it the American people lost a lot of credibility for guys guys like this yes and some of the credibility came for the guys like you that's just questioning things yeah you're not a doctor you're not you're just like look I'm not a this I'm not a dad talk to your doctor talk to your cardiologist we went through Dana White and Dana White had to do this and you know the reg you know regulations and things you have to deal with but I think the market is is is kind of going through this pendulum back and forth dude who do I go through like what do I do these guys are asking some interesting questions that's making me think about but this guy's got the pH the decrees do I go through these guys lost a lot of credibility years lost T of oh my God they lost a lot of credibility I mean this is what the whole Maha movement is about it's about getting the corruption out of our nutritional research and our food supply and our and our medical system I mean when you when you start to look at the statistics you know going on in in the United States you know being the biggest spender in healthcare worldwide we spend four and a half trillion dollars a year on Healthcare we only lead the world in in six things infant mortality maternal mortality um or obesity type 2 diabetes multiple chronic disease in a single biome um and you think wow we spent 4 and half trillion a year and we lead the world in all those things 77% of our our military-aged men and women cannot enter military service because of poor health I me that's Department of Defense statistics you know 133% of teens are suffering from fatty liver disease 30% of them um are morbidly obese you know the the the question is what is causing all this parabolic RIS in autism parabolic rises in attention deficit disorder parabolic rises in you know rates of depression um um polycystic avarian syndrome all of these mental illnesses and chronic diseases on on the skyrocketing and you and you look at the corruption in our in our in our food supply in our nutritional research you know the majority of our public policy research being funded by private Enterprise which is you know why you get a food pyramid that says that Lucky Charms is more nutritious than grass-fed steak that's how you get a food pyramid like that um and and I think you know the Maha movement um is about making changes to the poison that's in our food supply not eliminating people's choices I don't think anybody wants to talk about well you can't smoke can't drink can't Vape can't drink soda you know we're going to close down McDonald's that's not what it's about it's about saying um why are we subsidizing the industries that are poisoning us the most you know why do we actually subsidize grain wheat soy corn um that are genetic genetically modified crops that are sprayed with forever chemicals like glyphosate um that that enter our bodies and show up in our bloodstreams and wreak havoc on our cellular biology and you know our our our our food stores make it so expensive to have organic or locally grown foods and so inexpensive for the average person to get to these highly processed um poisonous you know grains um and and other Foods the majority of our our diet especially in teenagers is highly processed foods and it's just wrecking our our metabolism and you know I'm I'm I'm really excited you know I'm I'm not an official I have no government of role I'm not officially on the Maha committee I don't have a position in the government but with everything that I can do with the entire power of my platform and all of my peers we are standing behind Bobby Kennedy and this movement in such a such a unified way because the Poss ility that we could affect public policy and make real change I mean I'll go in as many podcasts and Stage talks and whatnot as I can try to get the information out because I truly believe it doesn't belong to me right I believe it belongs to humanity I just sort of you know God lets it flow through me but the the possibility to affect public policy and and and get some of these poisons out of our food supply and actually put vaccines through rigorous clinical trials like we do other Pharmaceuticals and other um forms of FDA approved devices and and and compounds and and address just the straight corruption in our nutritional research and in our Food and Drug Administration and our Centers for Disease Control so that we have real transparent data coming from real research that's in the best interest of true public policy not the best interest of private Enterprise because we seem to have privatized the profits and socialized the expense um and I don't think any American is on board for the you know the highest rates of childhood uh cancer in recorded history and and you know the the the rapidly declining rates of you know sperm counts and infertility and miscarriages I mean almost makes you feel like it's done on purpose if you're not you know oh trust me that's what a lot of people think so that that's why sound like a conspiracy theorist but but again why why did Bobby gain enough credibility as a Democrat independent then then for Trump to bring him in and he's not even a do why are some of these guys that are not do why did doctors like Fouch lose credibility yet people like Bobby Kennedy who are not doctors gain credibility we you know people feel like they were manipulated I'm just excited to see what's going on next and I'm happy for what you're doing thanks Gary I appreciate you for coming out I will tell you for me I'm going to go 30 days so whatever this is you know whatever you got here I'm going to I'm going to send you a bunch so you can go full 30 days I'm going to go full 30 days and experience it for myself and see where that goes and uh at the same time excited to see what you do next and I do know a lot of guys like Paul saladino one of the things that worked out very good for Paul a lot of people have questions Paul's on man you know I know Tony spoke to you about that as well on the man side love to be hon there I think a lot of people got questions for you A lot of people got especially the topics that we talked about here I just texted my wife I said I don't normally say this because my wife's got a million one things to do I said you have to watch his podcast you really I literally just texted and she says what do you guys talk about I said da da da da she I'm going to watch this podcast so anyways brother appreciate you for coming out really really enjoyed it thank you app appreciate you so much take care everybody God bless bye- bye bye- bye nowadays more than ever the brand you wear reflects and represent who you are so for us if you wear a future looks bright hat or a Valu tainment gear you're telling the world I'm optimistic I'm excited about what's going to be happening but you're a freeth thinker you question things you like debate and by the way last year 120,000 people 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