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In this AMA session, Tom Bilyeu addresses the critical role of environment and mindset in achieving success, emphasizing that one is not merely the average of the five people they spend time with but also the average of the five ideas consumed daily. He argues that while physical proximity to motivated individuals is ideal, the internet allows anyone to access powerful thinkers globally if they lack a local network; however, those living near major cities must actively seek out meetups and industry events because high-caliber peers are available there. Bilyeu illustrates his approach to goal execution using his comic book project as an example of working backward from a massive end vision—pulling people "out of the Matrix"—to concrete steps like securing partnerships with credible publishers in both film/TV and comics, thereby overcoming credibility gaps through strategic alliances rather than just raw talent. The conversation shifts to personal development habits, where Bilyeu shares his method for increasing reading speed by gradually ramping up from 1.5x to 3x over time, noting that natural language processing limits him around 2.3x while narrated audiobooks can be sped further due to their deliberate pacing. He discusses the audacity of launching Quest Nutrition in a saturated market not out of fearlessness but because he had been an entrepreneur for nearly a decade and possessed deep personal motivation stemming from his family's history with obesity, aiming to solve a problem that could literally save lives rather than just chasing a billion-dollar empire. When hiring team members, Bilyeu prioritizes long-term retention over resume metrics, looking specifically for grand ambition, drive, and compassion while using video calls to assess authenticity and body language, ensuring he builds relationships based on who people truly are rather than how they posture themselves. Overcoming internal barriers like laziness or feeling "stuck" is tackled through the lens of identity and excitement; Bilyeu explains that consistent action comes from identifying with a specific type of person and deriving chemical joy from acting in accordance with that identity, which creates an addictive neurochemical rush similar to substance abuse but for positive traits. He advises listeners who feel conflicted or unmotivated by their current path—such as attending law school without genuine passion—to either fan the flames until they find excitement about what lies beyond the immediate task or change gears entirely if no authentic enthusiasm exists, warning that wasting life on things one does not care about is a tragedy. Furthermore, he addresses handling criticism and decision-making paralysis by suggesting individuals ignore emotional reactions to insults and instead ask if any nugget of truth in the feedback can accelerate their goals, while also urging those lost among many interests to pick just one path, commit fully until they hit an obstacle or realize it's wrong, rather than endlessly debating choices. Finally, Bilyeu explores deeper philosophical questions regarding happiness, money, and legacy, asserting that true fulfillment comes from building a skill set that serves others, which leverages nature's design for cooperation to create lasting satisfaction beyond the fleeting pleasure of sex or survival instincts. He clarifies that while money is a powerful facilitator for dreams, it does not change one's self-worth; people chase wealth because they misunderstand its transient nature and society's judgment regarding loss versus non-acquisition. Regarding learning methods, he prefers reading books over watching documentaries due to the higher density of information in text, though he acknowledges both formats serve different functions. The session concludes with his stance on Stoicism and Taoism as compatible philosophies that help strip away ego to focus on truth and action, ultimately reinforcing the message that being a "learner" rather than pretending to be a master is essential for growth, and that one's legacy should be defined by their willingness to become more every day.
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Hey everybody, welcome to another
rousing edition of AMA. I'm your host
Tom Bilyeu and I'm here to answer your
questions. So, by the way, do put your
questions into the comment box. We have
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question is, the more likely it is to be
asked. And as always, thank you guys for
submitting the questions. That's what
makes this whole engine go. So, I really
am very grateful for that. All right,
our first question comes via
Annie Cowden. This is from the Connect
inbox, which is another way, did you
escape and make it in? Uh another way
that you can submit your questions and
here goes this one. Book after book,
speaker after speaker, talks about the
importance of who you surround yourself
with having a huge influence on you. I'm
extremely positive and have my goals
written, routines, etc., etc., but I do
not honestly know anybody with the same
motivation and drive as me. I am willing
and ready to be around people who are
more motivated than me and doing harder
work than me, but I don't know where to
find such a crowd. Did you experience
this? Do you have any advice? Um so,
no, that really um was never my
experience. I found that there was
always somebody around me that knew more
than me. Um there was always somebody
around me that was at least as motivated
than me. I won't say that I was always
able to find people that are more
motivated, um but this really comes down
to, now that the internet exists, there
is always a way to find people that are
more motivated, farther ahead of you,
farther ahead than you. So, even if
you're only able to spend that time with
them online, that's still a massive
advantage. And I always tell people that
you're not only the average of the five
people that you spend the most time
with, you're the average of the five
ideas that you spend the most time with.
And this is where people can really
leapfrog themselves, even if they're in
a remote village somewhere, you can
surround yourself with powerful ideas
from authors, from people online.
Um there's just no shortage of amazing
ideas that the vast majority of the
planet has access to. If you have access
to books or the internet, you should be
able to surround yourself with people
that are thinking on a level that will
be very, very beneficial to you. So, um
that would be my advice if you don't
have them around you.
But assuming that you live even remotely
close to a major city, um you just
haven't done the right work if you're
not able to find people that are farther
ahead. They are all out there, they are
doing meetups, they are trying to build
an audience. We live in such an amazing
time where people are pouring their
heart and soul into not only content
over the internet, but usually doing
content on the internet are also doing
meetups in real life. So, go be a part
of those and you should be able to
surround yourself with some pretty
amazing people. Also do entrepreneurial
meetups, that's another great place, or
industry meetups, uh depending on what
industry you're in. Doesn't have to be
entrepreneurial, but you'll find people
that are really trying to put themselves
out there, meet people, and progress.
And so that would be a great way. All
right, next question is from Daniel
Breeze, a fan favorite in the house.
This one is from Facebook. How do you
create the steps for executing on a goal
that you've set? It would be nice to
hear a breakdown of the steps in an
example. For example, the book you're
writing. Haha.
What is the ultra-specific goal and what
are the steps to execution? Okay, well,
if you're going to bring up uh the
dreaded book, um actually no, I'm not
going to do that one. I'm going to do
the comic book. That is far more fun for
me to talk about.
All right, so uh here's how it goes. So,
ultimately the comic book is meant to be
sold to um a studio. It's meant to be
turned into either a TV show or a film.
So, that's really, really important for
me to understand. And then going a level
even beyond that, the real goal of
anything that we put out is to help pull
people out of the Matrix. Okay, so I've
got my very specific goal. Now, what do
I mean by the Matrix? I mean that we all
have a set of limiting beliefs that
holds holds us back from really doing
and becoming what we have the potential
to do and become. So, I know that just
from um what the idea has to be, it has
to be empowering just to put a nice,
really simple uh word to it. So, all
right, I've got something that's meant
to pull people out of the Matrix, which
means that it has to be empowering. And
if I want to reach a mass audience in
the way that I think about it is, how
can I reach people that are even
antagonistic to the idea of change?
Okay, so I know that it's going to be a
mass medium because I want it to reach
as many people as possible, people that
are not seeking out empowerment. And I
also know that if they're not seeking
out the empowerment, that the
empowerment has to be a layer below the
entertainment. I think you have to
entertain people before you have the
right to {quote} educate them. And I
also know that if you're entertaining
people, and this goes back to Joseph
Campbell and the power of myth, that you
can
put into the very entertaining story,
the emotionally engaging story, a um
lesson for a lack of a better word, and
that really is a hateful word, and I
don't think of it like that. But you can
put characters that they look up to that
embody principles that if anybody
embodied in their real life that it
would move them forward. So, and
literally I'm this is exactly what I'm
doing in my mind to work backwards.
Okay, then because you've really got to
think about like and let's to use me as
an example,
while I have credibility in the realm of
being an entrepreneur, I don't yet have
credibility in the world of creating
comic books. And so this is actually
creating a lot of frustration behind the
scenes, boys and girls, because um with
my charm and my reach, I'm able to get
to people. But the question they ask
themselves is
if I could go right or be an artist for
one of the major publishers, then why
would I come be
a writer or an artist for you? You're an
unproven commodity in this. So, there
are a few ways around this. One, to make
sure that you have clarity of vision.
Two, and this is really important,
partner with people that do have that
credibility. So, I'm out there meeting
with people that are major publishers in
the industry, people that also have
credibility on the film and TV side so
that people see I have partnerships and
relationships in the comic book world,
but I also have partnerships and
relationships in the TV and film world.
So, when I say that I'm going to take
this property all the way through, I've
got the meaningful relationships with
very credible players all throughout
that space.
Then, keep going back. So, then you have
to solidify those, get the contracts in
place, dealing with the lawyers and all
that, which by the way, not too long
after I end this broadcast, I will be
doing exactly that. And so, making sure
that you have the things in place to
make good on the promises that you're
making. I worry that I'm getting too
granular, but hopefully you're seeing
like how you start with the end goal,
what exactly it is at the highest level,
and then just getting more and more and
more concrete until it ends with call
this person, convince them of this. And
that once you're there and once it's
things are super concrete, action is
being taken, you have dates and
deliverables, that's super critical,
then you'll actually potentially get
across the finish line. And then the
rest is nuance, right? So, if I'm unable
to convince a writer of a certain
stature, then you go to somebody who's
less proven who might be more in the
realm that I am where I have to have the
ability to recognize their talent much
like I'm asking other people to
recognize that my talents transfer from
the entrepreneurial arena to the
creative arena. And so, finding that
person that's an undiscovered talent,
while not easy, may become exactly the
thing that I need to do. All right, so
I could keep going, but hopefully at uh
a without getting into like the deep
like tactical level of what I'm doing
specifically, hopefully that answers
your question. All right, Alexander
Evergreen, this is from Facebook. And
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scour them both for questions. All
right, how long did it take you to
listen to books at 3x? Did you just
start right away at that speed or did
you have to ramp up over a period of
time? I had to ramp up over a period of
time. Uh I started at 1.5 and then when
that sounded normal and I literally
thought that I'd accidentally set it
back to one, then I bumped it up to two.
And then when that started to sound
normal and I thought that maybe I'd bump
that back down, then I bumped it up to
three. Now, you can actually train
yourself even better because YouTube
will let you go in much smaller
increments. So, you can go 1, 1.1, 0.2,
0.3, 0.4, so on and so forth, all the
way up to um I think the sound actually
shuts off at at something like 4x or
something like that. So, um you can go
faster and faster depending on how
quickly the person speaks. I find that
natural language for me taps out around
2.3. So, if somebody's talking in their
normal cadence like I'm doing now, that
I'm probably going to tap out around two
to 2.3 depending on how fast they talk.
On an Audible book, because they
intentionally speak very slowly and
clearly, I find that I can speed it all
the way up to three. Uh and there are
certain narrators that I want to go
above that, but Audible doesn't let you.
Uh but you do have to work your way up
to that. All right, next question is
from Gagan Rayat. This is from Facebook
also. How did you even have the audacity
to start to create a protein bar in 2010
when there were so many around? Weren't
you scared? What was it that kept you
going? Was it yourself belief? Did you
find something that wasn't uh part of
the current lot? Did you know you would
make a billion-dollar empire? Thanks.
Okay, so
don't scroll off. There's a lot of
questions here.
All right, how did I have the audacity?
So, by the point by the time that we
started Quest, I had been in the
entrepreneurial game for almost a
decade. I had won and lost um and just
knew that at the end of the day, the
only thing that was guaranteed was the
struggle. The success was not. So, I
wanted to do something that I was really
passionate about that I could believe in
even if we never ended up having
success. And so, for three very
different reasons cuz there were three
of us that founded the company for three
very different reasons, um we decided to
go into the health space. For me, I grew
up in a morbidly obese family, so it was
very easy to stay focused and push um
when
I just had to think about the people
that I loved, that I knew I was going to
lose, literally lose to death if I
didn't find a way to solve that problem.
So, it was deeply personal and and easy
to keep that energy going.
I wasn't doing it because I thought that
it was going to be a billion-dollar
business. Although, we did understand
that the market potential was massive.
Um and honestly, we we when we set out,
um we set out with the aim of becoming
one of the largest food companies in the
world, which of course would naturally
make it a billion-dollar empire. But, we
thought it would take a lot longer to
get there than it actually did, which
was really fascinating and obviously
wonderful, um but a total surprise. Uh
so, the reason that we had the audacity
to do it even though there were so many
other people out there was not only did
we have experience as entrepreneurs and
know how to build things and feel like
we could at least get to the point of
profitability, um
there wasn't a single bar in the market
that we would eat. So, we knew that
there was at least a market of three
people uh and we had a gut instinct that
it was going to be a lot bigger than
that. Um, and then a lot of things
colluded just at the same time, the
birth of social media, and we were
entirely social marketers. Uh, we were
focused on building a community. Um,
we became our own manufacturer right as
people were really becoming hyper-aware
of ingredients and what they eat and all
of that stuff. So, um, it was just
really, really good timing. Um,
self-belief, yes, was a huge part of it.
Um,
and I think that's all of them. All
right, next question is from Daniel Bro,
Dan Bro Fitness. Uh, when you started
building your team, how did you start to
find the best people for the job? I know
it's trial and error, but would love to
understand your process. Okay, so, um,
we're literally hiring right now. So, by
the way, if you're in Los Angeles and
you're interested in being an
administrative assistant or even an
executive assistant, um, do hit me up.
On LinkedIn, we have an active ad right
now. Um, so, go there and apply. Um,
and the way that I do this now is
literally, it's so straightforward. Um,
first of all, I tell people that I know
and respect that I'm looking in case
they might know somebody, and then I
post an ad on LinkedIn, super simple.
Now, the hard part begins. How do you
know what you're looking for? So, one of
the things that I look for is
um, how do they describe themselves? So,
if you're applying for a job and your
self-description doesn't match the job
that you're applying for, that's an
immediate no-go for me.
Um, next, how long do you stay at the
companies that you stay with? If you're
like, four months, nine months, six
months, absolutely [ __ ] not. I don't
want to have to like rehire every six to
nine months. Um, so, that that would be
a total nightmare. Um, also, I'm really
honest in the description about what
kind of company we are, what we're
looking for, um, very detailed breakdown
of what the job is exactly so that
people, um, don't think it's going to be
one thing only to find that it's
another.
Then, the real nuance begins, which is I
then jump on a phone call with them and
try to, whenever possible, be on a video
phone call cuz I think that people give
away, um, a lot more through their body
language, their facial expressions than
you're going to be able to pick up on on
a phone call, and I want to know who
they really are. So, I don't want to
know who they're posturing to be. I
actually want to know who they are, and
I think that that's the secret to
long-term relationships is really
understanding who each person is, what
their strengths, what their weaknesses
are,
and then being able to match them in a
role that really suits their abilities.
I find that that's
There are certain things that are easy
to identify in an interview, and certain
things that are brutally difficult. So,
I find it relatively easy to identify
whether the person is collaborative in
nature,
whether they're egocentric, whether they
like to be on a team, whether they're
compassionate and pathetic. Those things
are actually pretty easy to figure out.
Now, whether or not they're
wildly ambitious, and most terrifying
because it's so hard to identify in an
interview, is drive. Do they actually
have the drive to see it through? Now, I
didn't used to look at resumes literally
at all. Um, and now that I'm more in
need of professional managers, I find
that I look at them much more so because
I need to know like, what have you done
historically? Have you shown grit,
perseverance? Have you been able to move
up in an organization, in the same
organization ideally, and not just
bounce from company to company, which is
super common these days,
but holds very little interest to me,
and I'm really looking for long-term
relationships. Also, in the interview
process, I bring up the principles so
that people have to very comfortable
with hearing the raw, naked truth, and
understand that here at Impact Theory,
the best idea wins,
and that that means that you have to
have an unending pursuit of truth.
So, yeah, those are the things, and I
find that there's no way short of
working with somebody to know if they
have grit and perseverance. You can get
a hint of it from their resume, but at
the end of the day, that's the one thing
I feel almost completely incapable of
really identifying in an interview, and
it's one of the most important things.
And I look for three things in an
employee, by the way. I look for
grand ambition, drive, and compassion.
Um and you can get a whiff of the
ambition. Most people tell you that
they're ambitious whether they are or
not. Uh I think that most of the time
you're totally blind to drive. But
compassion, you can really understand.
Um and then you can just see, do they
pass the layover test? Are they fun to
be around? Um when you lower their
anxiety cuz interviews like literally
seem like they were designed from the
ground up to trigger every amount of
anxiety that a person has. Uh so, trying
to help them relax and really just
display who they are and then reveal who
I am. All right, I could keep going, but
I'll stop. Michael Casas, question. You
mentioned in your last AMA about skills
that are necessary to survival and
mentioned being able to read faster.
What are three additional skills you
feel are necessary to get great in order
to not only be happy, but increase one's
odds becoming successful?
Um
well, there's really only one skill that
I would say is necessary for becoming
successful, and that is the ability to
learn. Now, there are other things
around that that I won't necessarily say
are skills. Being deeply inquisitive,
um that's super important because if you
want to read, you're going to read a lot
more than somebody that does it only
because they think they have to in order
to get ahead. So, um fanning the flames
of your natural inquisitiveness, I think
it's really, really important, that
curiosity.
Um
pursuing something that is an area of
deep cultivated passion, so that you're
really on fire for that thing you're
going hard to learn about. I think that
that's really important. That's going to
give you the energy to keep pushing to
do the things you need to do to really
get great.
Um and then
what you build your self-esteem around
really matters because you need to be
focused on being the learner. That's
really I and I this all keeps coming
back to that. Like I'm
the things that are important to
succeeding in life are all the things
that optimize for learning.
And so, getting your ego out of the way,
not worrying about whether you're good,
smart, right, worthy, any of that, put
all of that aside, and think obsessively
about being the learner, building your
pride around that, your willingness to
learn, your willingness to admit when
you're wrong, your willingness to sit at
somebody else's feet, and humbly beseech
them for their knowledge. Um all of that
is just really, really important. And I
think there's few things that hold you
back faster than thinking that you're a
master. There's an amazing quote I
cannot believe I'm forgetting who that
it's by right now, but it's you can't
learn that which you already think you
know. And I that's like, let that hit
you. You cannot learn what you already
think you know. Like, people will just
shut down. They think they've already
got it, and that's why it's rarely the
master that goes on to create the
disruptive company. It's usually the
person too stupid to realize that they
don't know what they're doing that go in
and think totally originally. And as
long as they've got that belief to keep
going, and they're excited, those are
the people I'd bet
everything on every time. So, if you
look at my successes historically, I
started out in software, which I knew
absolutely nothing about. I went from
filmmaking to software, then I went from
software to nutrition, then I went from
nutrition to filmmaking. Um so,
you can see the people I hope that this
continues to be true for me. The people
that have the most passion, willingness
to learn, and the just raw naivete to
not understand how big the problem is
that they're facing, those are the
people that go on to do something. And I
try to remind myself every day to not
let myself get overwhelmed by the
enormity of what we're trying to do,
which is build the next Disney. Now, on
a similar timeline, don't plan to do
that in the next 10 years. Um but it's a
good thing that I don't know all the
problems that are coming for me. I will
just say that.
All right, next up, Michelle Blum.
Michelle Blum. All right. What is your
strategy for engaging in constructive
contemplation? It's easy to sit there
for too long and get stuck in rumination
rather than adequately reviewing your
life and formulating plans or goals. You
know, it's interesting. I was just
thinking about this today. So, here's
something that I do. I don't just sit
and ruminate. I'm always looking for
something to write down. I want to
create a list of action items. And once
I have a list of action items that I can
begin immediately executing against,
then I start to feel good. And there is
something for me. This is just my
process. Maybe it is a crazy process.
But, it goes like this. I sleep all the
as much not all the time as much as I
can so that I'm cognitively optimized. I
work out in the gym first and foremost.
And then immediately after that, I
meditate. And in that meditation, um
you're getting your mind to a calm
creative state. I literally just wrote a
newsletter about this. So, sign up for
the newsletter if you want more on that.
Um but, you're in quieting your mind. I
think, and I have nothing to back this
up other than intuition, I think that
you're basically creating the ability
for your subconscious to speak to your
conscious mind because you've quieted
the conscious mind to the point where it
can hear the little whispers of the
subconscious, which is always how it's
it's just a slight feeling. It's a mild
sense of intuition. It's not like loud
and pronounced. So, once you're there,
then I open my computer. I have it
sitting on my lap. And my sole goal in
the universe is to come up with things
that I can write down that are execu-
table. So, my mind knows that that's its
task. I don't just sit there and stare
out a window. I have that computer. And
by the way, I I and I find this
really helpful. I put on the app Calm,
and I play their what they call scenes.
So, it's like uh meadow at dawn or
um the ocean at sunset. It you know,
it's all kinds of different things.
There's something about those natural
sounds that really lock me in. I don't
hear anything else. There are no
distractions. And I do think that it has
something to do with that it's the
sounds of nature that really
um put me in an amazing place to hear
those whispers of my subconscious so
that I can translate my biggest business
problems into action items. So, when
there's something that I'm stuck on and
I'm just like, "God, you know, what am I
going to do to solve this?" I'm
literally sitting there staring at the
screen
which uh very rarely is blank. And so,
I've got my list as a living document.
I'm changing it all the time, pretty
much every day. And so, there's none of
that weight of a blank page. But, I'm
just looking at those things that I'm
already supposed to be doing and I'm
really asking myself, "Are these going
to be the things that actually do it?"
And then I do the no [ __ ] what
would it take? So, no [ __ ] what
would it take? Um and a lot of times
like it the answer is something that I
know other people aren't thinking of
because they're conflicted about um
their goals, quite frankly. So, they're
conflicted about like
I'll give you a great example. This is a
real story, by the way. So, somebody
that I know, someone who may be
listening right now. They um
they're in the film business
and
they were being blackmailed, which I
can't believe is real. Like, who the
[ __ ] does that? That's crazy to me. But,
anyway, they were being blackmailed and
so they were asking my advice, "What do
I do?" And my advice was very simple,
"What's your goal? Now act in accordance
with your goal." And their goal was they
wanted to get the film that they were
working on done, period. And that was
the most important thing to them and the
fact that somebody else was going to get
some of their money, um that was the
quite frankly in the hierarchy of their
desires was a lesser desire than their
desire to get the goal. So, there you
have it, move forward. Um so,
once you're not conflicted about your
goals, then you can really start to see
what the real path is to that. Um so,
paying people just to answer your
questions while maybe you shouldn't have
to and maybe they should do it out of
kindness or maybe they should do it cuz
you've done things for them in the past.
Like, that's somebody who's conflicted.
I'm not conflicted. So, if I've got to
pay somebody who I've spent a thousand
hours doing [ __ ] for free and I need to
pay them a thousand dollars a month to,
um, you know, answer two or three
questions, I'll do it because those two
or three questions I may be able to turn
into hundreds of millions of dollars.
So, that to me, like, just understanding
what you want and having absolute
clarity about what's important and
what's going to get you there um, and
then executing against it. So, that's
how I avoid just sort of ruminating and
I certainly don't waste time sitting in
the past.
All right, this next person is Greek or
I will eat my shoes.
Um, all right, let's see. I'm going to
butcher this. And this is weird. I
should be good at these names.
Apostolos
Theophanopoulos. That is almost
certainly really [ __ ] close. All
right. If you could choose two of your
favorite authors to write a book
together, who would they be and what
would you like them to write about? What
an amazing question.
Okay.
I'm going to go with Tony Robbins and
Ray Dalio.
That's a [ __ ] book that I would
read. Now, Tony Robbins interviewed Ray
Dalio, so that was interesting and I
highly encourage you all to watch that.
Uh, but them writing a book together
would be off the charts, no question. I
would read the [ __ ] out of that. All
right. Thank you for that. That was so
much fun. That was a really enjoyable
mental exercise. I'm very grateful for
that one. All right. Kila Herrera, "Hey
Tom, I have been following your content
for a little while now and I love that
you are a super that you are a super
honest about how you used to be the late
used to be lazy. I still am. Do you have
any advice on how do consistently
overcome that? Indeed I do. Uh, I have
days where I'm busy and actually getting
what I need done, but then I have days
where I'm lazy and I want to limit those
days even more and be more active in
doing what I need to do, uh, which is
mostly studying for law school. All
right, here is just the hard hard
reality. The only thing that I found as
ways around this
is identity. So, I really want to be a
certain kind of person and I get a
massive amount of chemical joy.
Joy. I am a heroin addict, a cocaine
addict for being the kind of person I
want to be, acting in accordance with
that, being tough, doing the work,
grinding it out, pushing forward, having
a goal, going after it, developing
myself, being the learner, like seeing
how much potential I can actually wring
out of myself. I can't tell you like all
the [ __ ] that I say in these AMAs and
when I do interviews and stuff, they are
so real to the core of my being. Good
[ __ ] luck catching me out because
this is what I do because
because
of that neurochemical rush that I get
every time where
and don't let Chase hear this, but like
when I'm up and I'm working at 4:00 a.m.
and I know all my employees are
sleeping, all my competitors are
sleeping and I'm [ __ ] grinding it
out. And when I got up at 4:00 a.m. and
I was working my ass off and then at
literally 8:45,
knowing that I will be in bed and I will
be asleep in 15 minutes, I'm still
working.
Now, the other part because
you're wasting your life if you do all
of that for something that you don't
care about. And this is where it gets
terrifying. You've got to be excited
about the future that you're building.
That is the key. You've got to be really
amped up about it. It's got to give you
energy. When you think about doing that
thing, it's got to really amp you up.
And if it doesn't, then dear god, what
are you doing?
There's no moral obligation to go hard
and live your life like I live mine, but
man, let me tell you right now, if
you're not doing things that excite you,
if there's nothing in your life that you
have built into this incredible pyre of
excitement, you are really missing out.
That literally to me is what life has to
offer. We are this creature that is
immeasurably excitable, but you have to
create that. You've got to decide that
something's going to become an
excitement for you and that you're going
to feed into like, for instance,
I have not yet seen Altered Carbon.
Chase,
have you? I have not. No one has.
Although, unless it's already come out.
But, it comes out today at some point
and I'm over the moon excited about it.
Now, it could be a total disaster, but I
decided that I was going to get myself
excited about this thing so that I would
be literally chomping at the bit to sit
down and watch this thing, which I am
now. And literally just because I've
decided that I'm going to get excited
and I fanned the flames. And why am I
excited about this? I love things that
deal with the future. Oh, that's so
cool. I know the imagery is going to be
badass. I watched the trailer. I talked
to Casey about it all the time. Casey
and I are feeding off of each other, but
that was all super conscious on my part.
I literally saw Casey mentioned it. She
said, "Oh, there's this new show coming
out called Altered Carbon. I think you
might be into it."
I went, I watched the trailer and I
said, "You know what? I'm going to get
excited about this [ __ ] thing." I
have no idea if it's going to be any
good, but I'm going to get excited. Now,
deciding about that, fanning those
flames, doing all the things that I just
went through, that makes this thing
legitimately exciting for me. And I do
the same thing about my business goals,
my marriage, my friendships, like
you can literally decide that you're
going to get excited about it. And if
it's real, if there's a nugget of
something real, like I can't get excited
about going to the dentist. There's
virtually nothing. It's so funny, my
[ __ ] mind. Even now, I'm like, you
could get excited about going to the
dentist, about leaning into the pain and
like proving to yourself you're tough.
So, anyway, that's a sickness, but you
can like do this with things that are
legitimately interesting to you. You can
fan those flames until they become
full-blown excitement. So, if law school
is your stick, you've got to find a way
to fan those flames to get excited about
law school, about what it represents,
about what it's going to allow you to
do, whatever that is. Even if law school
is your version of going to the dentist,
hopefully you're doing it because
there's something on the other end of
getting that law degree
that you care about deeply.
And that does excite you when you think
about it. And if it doesn't, and you
don't think that you can breathe that
excitement into it in an authentic way,
change gears. Literally go in today and
quit if that's what you need to do. But
don't waste your life doing things you
don't give a [ __ ] about. All right, next
up, Ruth Preston. This is Facebook. How
do you deal with people giving criticism
about the way you do things? How do you
know how much to take in and apply to
your life, and how much you to just let
go of? Basically, how much is true and
how much is them?
All right, so first of all, I
whenever someone gives me criticism, I
try to ask myself, regardless of how
it's presented, regardless if it's
clearly meant as an attack, I'll say,
"Is there any truth in this?" Now, why
do I do that? I do that because if
somebody can point out a blind spot,
even if in yourself, even if that hurts,
once you're no longer blind to it, you
can address it by acquiring a skill.
Once you have that skill, that skill has
real-world implications. And this is
where I think people fall down. They
like they want to acquire skills either
to please their parents or to
um pacify their boss or whatever it is.
They're not thinking about this skill is
actually going to let me do something
that I couldn't otherwise do. And once I
can do that thing, it's a form of power.
I can leverage it, and I can go where I
want to go. So, when you start thinking
about it like that, then all of a sudden
it's like no matter why the criticism is
being laid on you, you want to see if
it's true. You want to immediately scan
the realities of your life and say, "If
what they're telling me will actually
let me go to my goal faster, more
efficiently, then I'm going to adopt it
even if it was meant as an insult, even
if they're trying to hurt my feelings,
um even if they're crazy, out of their
[ __ ] minds. This is some another
thing that drives me crazy. People
looking for reasons not to listen to
somebody else. Don't ever look for a
reason to not listen to somebody. They
may be totally crazy. They may be
literally
crazy.
Like actual mental illness crazy. And I
will still ask if what they're saying to
me has potential merit. Have they been
able somehow through all the madness
been able to give me a nugget that I can
use in my life and to meet that with
gratitude.
Man, I'm just telling you that that is
like one of those secret sauces. There's
so many people that waste [ __ ] time
on the internet arguing with people,
which I will never understand.
Every minute you spend arguing is a
minute you don't spend deploying the
skills that you have. So,
regardless of how something is meant,
regardless of how much it hurts, ask
only one question.
Will taking this advice move me towards
my goals or not? If it does, do it. If
it doesn't, ignore it. All right, you've
got to get good at that. There's no
question. You've got to get good at
assessing that, but where most people
get tripped up is the emotion. So, get
over that one.
All right, next up is Citsi
Karkusashvili.
Man, it's not a lot that really like
[ __ ] stumble me up, but I think Citsi
is pretty close. All right. Hi Tom, I'm
curious how should we go through times
when our goal is not clear and we're
lost. There are so many things that I'm
interested in. I'm not sure which which
path I should choose. All right, you're
going to think I'm being cheeky in how
brief this answer is going to be. And I
want everyone, if that question
resonated with you, lean the [ __ ] in.
Pick one and go. That's it. Don't
[ __ ] debate, just pick one and go.
And if 10 steps down the path you're
like, [ __ ] I really should have picked
the other one, then go pick the other
one and run down that path. If you find
yourself do that more than three times,
you're just being wishy-washy. Pick one
and go and don't stop even when you get
that pang of oh, I should be doing
something else. See it all the way
through. Set yourself a goal, whether
that's um you know, running a marathon
or if you
um
God, there's so many things. You think
you want to be a professional dancer, go
um sign up for a dance class and see
that all the way through to the end.
Like pick some length of time that no
matter what, even if you hate it, you're
going to see it through. But that that's
where people fall down. They they don't
just pick one and go. Nothing is ever
going to seem right. So, pick one, go,
develop it into a passion. All right.
Next up is Three Rhino Media. If you
could choose two historical figures, not
living, to do an episode of Impact
Theory together, who would they be and
why? Man, we got a real thing for
togethers today.
Um
not living.
I'm going to go with
Einstein.
Which if you guys haven't watched that
episode of Genius or the the season of
Genius that um shows his life, really,
really amazing.
Um and then, God, who would be
fascinating to pair with him?
This is super random and and this may I
may want to tear my own hair out, but
I'm going to say Steve Jobs. So, it'd be
really interesting to put those two
together, especially because I know that
Steve Jobs admired Einstein. Uh they've
both been written about by uh Isaac
Walter Isaacson. I always want to say
his name backwards.
Um so, yeah, that would be really
fascinating. And I don't have a great
why for you. I'd really have to sit
down. My gut is those are two people
that I am immeasurably fascinated by
that are both dead. Um and yeah, they've
got enough things like connecting them
that um I think that we could weave a
pretty fascinating narrative about how
they achieved and accomplished tying in
all the things that Walter Isaacson
wrote about. Yeah, that would be a
[ __ ] good episode, man. Now I'm just
sad. Thanks three Rhino Media that that
will never happen. All right, Lindsey
shoots. Hey Tom, how can I be authentic
at work when my office constantly
thrives on gossip and subplots? That's
an interesting way to say that. I've
been here for almost 6 years and
desperately want to leave but don't have
a skill set to get me away from this
industry, so I'm miserable and it's hard
to hide what I'm feeling. How can I cope
here while I build up other skills?
Thank you.
What would I really do? I have the cheap
cheesy answer which I'm going to give
you really fast and then I'm going to
we're all going to give me like 7
seconds to just sit blankly and think.
Um, my cheap and cheesy answer is that
um, I would start looking for what's the
ideal industry that I want to be in and
I would identify that and I would then
say okay, like vision board it, hang it
on the fridge, whatever, like I want to
get into this world I'm really excited
about and deeply passionate. And then I
would start nights and weekends working
to acquire the skills and I would set
myself a goal. And honestly a year is
plenty of time. A year is plenty of time
for you to
get enough skills that you could go into
an interview and convince them that you
know what you're talking about and it's
worth taking a shot on you even if that
means taking a pay cut. All right, so
that's kind of answer that we've heard
from me a thousand times. Uh, it's very
true, it's very real and that may be
exactly what I would do, uh, but I
really want to think about this for a
second.
So, I'm fascinated by how much of the
culture can you change from within? And
I think it's hard as hell. I think it's
one of the most difficult things that
anyone can undertake, which is
really trying to flip people. But I
really want to know, like if you
couldn't leave, like if for 5 years you
had to just grind it out to get the
skill set that you wanted to acquire,
um, what would it look like to find a
path to happiness inside the company?
Here's what I would do. I am utterly
convinced that people will recognize you
if you get good enough. And I would
start getting so [ __ ] good at my job
that people would want to steal my
ideas. So that would be step one. I
would want to put myself in a position
where my managers are stealing all my
ideas.
Because now they're going to have fear
of loss whether they say it or not. If
you're the one actually generating the
ideas, they're going to have fear of
loss. Also, if you can execute against
that, then they're really going to be
afraid to lose you. Now that puts you in
a position of power. Second of all, and
that that power is going to feel good,
right? So you're going to be
progressing, you're going to be getting
better, that's going to be feeding your
your confidence, your self-esteem, which
is very, very helpful when you're
dealing in a difficult environment.
Then I'm also going to never, ever, ever
engage in gossip or anything like that.
And I might, now I'm not sure, I would
have to really read the situation
because you don't want to come across as
a total douche, but one thing I might
start doing is go the next time
somebody's like being really gossipy
about somebody, I would say, "You know
what's really interesting? I'm
practicing the saying I heard this piece
of advice on this random guy's web
series and he said you get what you
focus on. It's really interesting. So
while that may be true about that
person,
I've I'm trying this new method of
flipping my criticisms into compliments.
And I don't know, you guys might think
I'm crazy, but what do you think about
this?" And then I would compliment that
person. Or just get the [ __ ] out of that
conversation. But if I thought I could
pull it off without being a douche, I
thought I might be able to begin swaying
people's
ways of being and I trust me, I know
that that would take a very long time
cuz humans are prone to gossip. It is by
the way, one of the ways we transmit
ideas. So
you may not ever be able to stop the
gossip. We may not even want to as a
species stop the gossip, but 80/20,
right? 80% of the time should be about
the things we're excited about, cheering
people on, totally amped up, super
excited for them.
So because I'm such a huge believer in
the principles, which is only talking
truth, um not saying things behind
somebody's back that you wouldn't be
willing to say to their face. I would
just start implementing that in my own
life, and I would walk people through. I
would tell them why I'm doing it.
Um
I really could go on and on about that,
and I'd be so interested to see if that
would really work in real life. Um
but I don't think that you have to
choose between those two. So, I know
that on the other hand, nights and
weekends, getting the skills to get out,
um
that you can do. And also, honestly,
what I would do is cut your expenses to
the quick, so that you don't need as
much money, so that you can leave
sooner. Intern for somebody nights and
weekends. If you can go part-time, do
it, and then start interning for the
industry that you want to be in um on
the day or days that you're able to free
up, or go be a freelancer. I don't know
what industry you're in, so I don't know
how easy it would be to freelance.
Um but that would be incredible, but I
would get out of the toxic environment
as much as as rapidly as possible. All
right, thank you for being indulgent,
letting me think out loud on that one.
Um
I'm really fascinated by that. All
right, next question is from Edwin
Degaldo.
How do you engage employees after
layoffs? How do you engage yourself? Uh
I'm going to make the assumption that
you mean how do you engage the remaining
employees after you've done a round of
layoffs? And I think that this is where
radical transparency comes in. If people
really deeply understand why you're
doing what they're doing, and you're
doing it for a sound reason, I think
that you can get people back on board,
especially because they're the ones that
survived. Explain to them why they
survived. Explain to them how they're
going to be able to contribute. Explain
to them what your vision is for getting
the company going in a positive
direction again. If all of those things
make sense, and they can really follow
your logic, and they buy into that, um
that is going to make it a lot easier.
Now, how do I engage myself?
Because I haven't been an employee for
now north of 15 years, um I might be a
little delusional on this one. So, for
me, it's all about I I need to believe
in the vision before I can move on it
for anybody else. And every day I'm
trying to sharpen where we're going, how
we're going to get there. Um I'm
constantly communicating that to myself.
Um in fact, we had to institute weekly
meetings so that I could um communicate
that to the rest of the team because I
find that my own vision of where we're
going and how we're going to get there
is changing um in exciting ways all the
time and that that changes so rapidly
because I think about it so much that if
I don't weekly stop to take time to tell
the team um that when I do say, "Hey,
here's where we're going." um it feels
very jarring. So, that's a long way of
saying you should always be um refining
that within yourself, always believe in
it, always be excited about it. And if
you're unable to do that, you need to
find somebody that can. Um and you may
need to own and this was really
interesting in the episode that I did
with Tucker Max where he said, "I'm not
the right person to be the CEO for the
company and I know that. And even though
I founded it, I hired another CEO. And
even though he offered to take the
president role and let me keep the CEO
role, I knew that didn't make sense. And
so, he got his own ego out of the way
and he hired somebody else." So,
I would do that. All right, next up is
Violet Danka. This is from YouTube. Hey
Tom, I'm super excited to know more
about your comic book project. What are
requirements the artist needs to meet to
get a chance to be a part of the
project? Thank you.
All right, Violet, here is the hard,
hard, hard answer and I don't want this
to be true because I love this community
so much and you can't imagine it is like
shoving bamboo shoots under my
fingernails every time somebody from the
community submits something and I'm
like, "It's just not where I need it to
be."
Um the honest answer is you've got to be
unreasonably talented.
You've got to be unreasonably talented
at telling stories. And I also find that
most artists are um really good at cover
art and really bad at sequential art. Um
so,
that is that is
that's been one of the frustrations, but
I want to be proven wrong by you. That
would be amazing. And we're working
right now and I've really slowed down on
this because the submissions that we
were getting were not where we needed
them to be, but my original vision for
all of this was we were going to have a
submission process
um, where we sent you a document and
said this is what you can expect if we
um, which I guess as an artist it really
doesn't matter. In fact, as an artist
this becomes much easier. Send me a link
to your portfolio. I will look at it. If
it is amazing, uh, I will reach out to
you, but it's got to be amazing. So, and
like if it's not amazing, it doesn't
mean you're a bad person. It doesn't
mean you're a bad artist. It just means
you got to keep progressing. So, um,
thank you for your excitement. I really
want your portfolio to be amazing. Uh,
send it in. Anybody else that's
listening, that would be incredible.
Uh, yep. So, I'm excited for this to
become more and more real so that people
can see what we're really up to behind
the scenes. Um, it's going to be a lot
of fun.
All right. Jake Odissa.
Yep. Hey Tom and Impact Theory team.
With your content and the guests you
have had on your show, I found stoicism.
Nice. What is your feeling on stoicism
and other philosophies? Okay, so my
reading of that question was super
[ __ ] awkward and I apologize.
Uh, stoicism as interpreted by Ryan
Holiday is amazing. I couldn't get
through the original stoic text, so
maybe bad on me, maybe that's a weakness
that I have, uh, but I found Ryan's
books to be un- Ryan Holiday for anybody
that doesn't know. Uh, I found his books
to be unbelievably powerful. And so The
Obstacle Is the Way, um, Daily Stoic,
um, Ego Is the Enemy, all of them were
amazing. So, I highly, highly encourage
you to read that and it's basically like
extreme ownership, everything's my
fault, what's the opportunity in this
bad thing, this supposed bad thing? And
I just think that's the way to live.
Other philosophies, the only other
philosophy that I'll say that I
understand well enough to really like
plant a flag in it would be Taoism.
I spent many years actually in my youth
referring to myself as a Taoist,
which I don't anymore, but that was that
was I would I went hard for that Taoist
cake.
Way into that and I think that there are
a lot of similarities to Taoism and
Stoicism
Stoicism, there we go.
In that you're looking at you're trying
to identify the truth of the situation,
get the ego out of the way and really
understand how you can move towards your
goal, whatever your goal may be.
So,
those are the only two that I can speak
with any degree of certainty. All right,
frivolous TV YouTube. Tom, what's your
interpretation of people that constantly
say I'm stuck?
My interpretation is that they're not
excited about what they're trying to
accomplish. When you're excited, like
when you really want something or as
Tony Robbins would say, once your want
becomes a crushing need in your life,
you will find a way. Most of the time
people are stuck, it's like they're just
unhappy enough to be complaining, but
they're not unhappy enough to do
something about it. Or maybe even more
terrifyingly, they've let that
unhappiness become a chronic state and
because it's neurological, they don't
see the way out of it. And because they
don't see a way out of it, they don't
try because humans lead with belief and
you have to believe that you can get to
the other side of it before you will
start putting action in place because
you have to believe that your actions
will be rewarded with progress in order
to take that first step. So,
being stuck is basically the thing I've
dedicated my life to and the whole idea
of getting people a growth mindset and
doing it through a studio that creates
content is the content that you're
hearing right now is content for the
choir, right? So, I'm preaching to the
choir right now. The stuff that we're
doing on the traditional narrative side,
the comic books, TV shows, movies,
that's all for people that are
antagonistic to change, that they
actively don't want a growth mindset. Um
I think even those people, hopefully,
can be flipped, but it isn't going to be
through talking to them, and it probably
isn't going to be
um
like a full transformation. I think of
it more generationally. So, rather than
maybe a better way to say it would be
maybe I can't save that person, but I
can save their family, so their progeny,
the their lineage. And so,
multi-generational, the first person
maybe gets that hope for their kids that
like, "Hey, things could be better for
you, and this is how you should think,
and these are the characters you should
look up to." And then their kids just
take it for granted that that's the way
the world should be, and then their kids
obviously don't know anything else. Um
that's my fantasy, and we'll see how
true that is um over time.
All right. Robbie Gutless,
is that really your last name, or is
that
That's from YouTube. So, my guess is
that's fake. Robbie, I've got a whole
thing about usernames. You got to be
real careful with those usernames.
Uh Mr. Bill You, I was on my way to
Australia on a work visa for a physical
job for a physical job, but I ruptured
my Achilles tendon. This is the biggest
setback I've ever had. How would you
deal with the downtime? Um so, nobody
has better advice on this topic than
Kobe Bryant. Him specifically for sure,
and then there are probably countless
other athletes that have talked about
this. Um in fact, Jay Williams, who was
on Impact Theory, um he talked about all
the downtime and what he did with it. Um
he's got a book. I forget the title of
the book.
Uh God, what is it? It's a cool title as
well. I'm very upset. Um but Jay
Williams, look him up. He's talked a lot
about it. Kobe talks a lot about it,
about how you have to just [ __ ] get
over the like frustration of it. Just
start putting in the work to um do the
physical therapy, to get better, to know
that on the other side of this you're
going to be stronger than ever. And
also, the downtime, take the time to
strengthen your mind, and I think that
that's critically important, and it is
sort of it sucks, but it's going to free
up some of your time. If you put that
time into learning, to growing more
excited about what you're going to be
doing, to diversifying, like maybe
you realize that whoa, the body has a
shelf life, and man, do I ever wish that
wasn't true, but the body, at least as
of today, has a shelf life. And so, what
are things that I could do to diversify
my potential
um
careers. Like, are there other things
that I can begin investing in now while
I still do have years left in my career
where I'm doing something to set myself
up for the next phase, and ironically
enough, Kobe, I am not a sports guy at
all, but I saw Kobe speak, and
dude, what he's doing on the media side
is
rad. And I think his short film,
Farewell to Basketball, I think it's
called,
or My Letter to Basketball, anyway,
something like that. I think it was
nominated for an Academy Award, and it
is unbelievably good. And he said he
started working on that before he'd even
retired from basketball because he knew,
obviously, I'm going to be retiring, and
it's going to be relatively soon, so I
need to start thinking about what that
next phase is. So, take the time to do
that. All right. Mike
Pursacelli. Hi Tom, I'm almost finished
reading The Power of Habit, and it talks
about a keystone habit that acts as a
lead domino for everything else in your
life to fall into place. Could you
identify yours? Learning, in no
uncertain terms. Every day I am reading.
I read obsessively.
I am constantly trying to get more
information to improve myself, to become
capable of more than I was the day
before.
That, like, just read, read, read, read,
read, making sure that that is a part of
my daily [ __ ] routine, that is for
sure my lead domino.
The fact that I spend a lot of my time
also reading about the mind, that's
huge, so mindset is also another part of
that. Those two are very much
intertwined for me. All right. Nikhil
Wada, YouTube. Hi Hi I'm trying to
understand myself doing that by
journaling, thinking about how I feel
about various things, remembering where
I come from helps me be happy. How do I
understand myself better? You've already
laid out some pretty good things. Um, so
the other I would say is when you have
an emotion, begin to recognize, oh, I'm
having a strong emotion. What is causing
that emotion? And then what is the
underlying cause of that? So, uh, I I'm
having an emotion and my emotion is
anger. And my anger is based on, um, my
uh, girlfriend asked me to
um, stop reading so much. And then I
realized that that makes me angry
because I'm insecure about my ability to
provide for her. Okay, well, cool. Now
we've identified what's really going on
and we have an insecurity around being
able to provide. Maybe we have an
insecurity about a role as a man,
whatever the case may be. It's like,
okay, you've identified it now. Now it's
not going to have much hold on you. And
that process of, I'm having an emotion,
cool. What's driving the emotion, got
it. And then what's the underlying cause
of that driver, that that's really,
really critical and that's going to help
you continue to identify those emotional
things that drive you. And I find that
most people are driven by their
emotions, but they never take the time
to figure out why at their most petty,
insecure, just basest human level,
what's actually driving that emotion.
And if you can identify that, then you
can deal with it.
All right. Next up is from Mia Lavoy.
Hey Tom, would you rather have the
excitement and joy of a growth mindset
and be broke living in poverty and never
get out, or would you rather be a
billionaire but ha be the billionaire
you are, for the record I'm not a
billionaire, uh, but have received it by
inheritance or the lottery with no
growth mindset? That is not even
difficult. I would much rather have a
growth mindset. I'm telling you right
now, the only thing
the only thing that matters is how you
think about yourself when you're all
alone. That's it. So, that is like hands
down 100% money is uh amazing and I am
super honored that our I'm not even
honored. I'm super grateful that I've
made the kind of money that I've made in
my life. But, boy, oh boy, let me tell
you that the thing that I'm proud of,
the thing that is the backbone of my
joy, my happiness, my fulfillment is my
willingness to stare at my inadequacies
and work to become someone that I'm
immeasurably proud of. That's it. It is
my willingness to become. My willingness
to become. It isn't that I am, that I
have, none of that. My willingness to
become. That is entirely a growth
mindset. So, yeah, that my my entire
universe of pride, joy, and fulfillment
is centered around that and I think that
that's humans by nature, growth,
progress, those are fundamental drivers
of fulfillment. So, that's it.
All right. Next question, Jeremy
Stickney. What sentence would you want
on your tombstone to say about you when
you're gone?
This is all my fault.
Because I didn't solve the death
problem. That's actually what I think
about death. I would just be pissed that
um it I banked on other people solving a
pretty important problem in my life and
they didn't solve it and I died. So,
yeah, this is all my fault. There it is.
All right, Linda Roy. Can you comment on
learning from reading versus watching
documentaries and etc. online? Reading
Reading touches one part of your brain
and video another. Is one better or not?
Um I don't think that one's better and
whatever you learn from, that's
incredibly powerful. Now, I find that
books have a much
um deeper density of information. It's
the same reason I don't listen to um as
many podcasts as I read books. And by
the way, it is the reason that I stopped
doing um AMAs in a more conversational
style and I moved to me trying to give
answers as rapidly as humanly possible.
I'm trying to make the density of
information in this the most
density-rich
or information-rich podcast ever. So,
that's why I um while I love
documentaries and I love filmmaking, the
density of information is just not
there. So, that's for people that need
that emotional ride um and quite
frankly, the other thing that
storytelling gives you is the metaphor
with which to hold on to in your life to
come back to. I think it's far easier to
remember that stuff. Um so, you've got
memory cuz it's triggering emotions,
making it really visceral, characters
that you can identify with, um
situations that you can use to explain
something to other people or even to
yourself, and then you've got just the
density of information that comes in
books. And great books, obviously, a lot
of times will use stories and analogies
and things to try to capitalize on some
of that other stuff. Um so, yeah, I
don't think that one is better than the
other. I think that both serve different
functions, but I spend the majority of
my learning time uh in books just for
the pure density of information.
Okay. Next up, Justin James from
YouTube. What do you believe Why do you
believe people are so attached to money
so much that it affects all other areas
of their lives? All right, are you ready
for this one? And I really want people
to listen to this.
Money is real.
Money is real. Money is the great
facilitator. It will change your life,
not necessarily forever cuz you could
lose it, but it will change your life
profoundly.
Bill Gates is going to end malaria, and
he's going to do it because he has
access to the resources. So, money in
and of itself is inert. It is not going
to make you happy. It will not change
how you feel about yourself in any way,
shape, or form, but people will chase it
forever and ever and ever because it is
real, and it allows you to do things,
and you are able to facilitate your
greatest dreams, whatever they may be,
because you have money. Now, if you
don't understand money, if you don't
understand that money won't change how
you feel about yourself, if you don't
understand how transient money is, and
that you can spend it, and then it is
all gone, and if you don't understand
how you will feel about that, because
society will judge you, it's actually
harder to deal with having made a lot of
money only to lose it in terms of public
perception than to never have made it at
all. People don't necessarily feel sorry
for the person that's making $45,000 a
year, but they like literally like
there's a mixture of like heartbreak and
cynicism to the person that made 45
million and then lost it. So, that is uh
you got to be real careful. You got to
know who you are. Like the the most
interesting thing that happened to me in
getting wealthy was realizing that the
money did not in any way, shape, or form
change how I felt about myself. I
thought it would, because I looked up to
people that had money. I thought, "Oh my
god, they're amazing. They've
accomplished all this stuff." Like I
thought they were so cool that I just
thought, "Well, if I am one of them, if
I have the outwardly affectations that
they have, that I would feel that way
about myself." That's not how it works
at all. So, do the work to become the
person that you want to be, to believe
in yourself, to love yourself, all of
that, regardless of whether or not you
have money, because the money tang going
to change anything.
But it will let you facilitate your
dreams, and that is so intoxicating that
people will chase it forever. So, all
right, we're at the end here. All right,
last question.
Magic Hammer Photography, this is from
YouTube. Hey Tom, knowing that the brain
is designed for survival, what strategy
would you recommend to bend the
evolutionary curve towards happiness
rather than survival?
I I don't think this is uh really a
question of bifurcating them, because I
think happiness is the pleasure that
nature has given us to make sure that we
do the things that ensure the survival
of our progeny, and that's very
important to differentiate. So, nature
isn't so worried about you, nature is
worried about making sure that you are
able to raise children long enough that
they get to the point where they will
have kids who will then survive, so on
and so forth. But, just like nature
incentivizes sex through pleasure nature
incentivizes
cooperation, teamwork by making
fulfillment the
longest-lasting,
most stable neurochemical state. So, sex
is amazing, but it comes and goes,
right? It's a very brief experience.
Whereas, fulfillment, knowing that I
have a skill set that I worked my ass
off for, and this skill set has
real-world implications to people other
than myself, it's able to serve other
people, and that is what brings human
beings the deepest sense of fulfillment.
And I think once people begin to
understand that building that skill set
that is hard to acquire, that serves
other people, is the key to fulfillment,
then I think that you can literally
leverage what nature has already given
us to have that deep and lasting
fulfillment. I just think that there's
enough weirdnesses in modern society and
all that that it that doesn't happen
automatically anymore, and so that's
what may make it feel like, "Oh, we have
to totally um bend the curve away from
something." Um that is how we survive as
a group, as a collective, to make sure
that our children live on is to protect
that group around us. So, do things not
just for yourself, but for other people,
and I think that you will find a deep
and lasting sense of fulfillment awaits
you. All right, that's it for today.
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