The People, Planet, Prosperity Project: Mainstreaming Nature in Policy and Investment | NatCap 2026
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The People, Planet, Prosperity Project represents a significant collaborative effort between the Natural Capital Alliance and multilateral development banks designed to integrate nature into policy and investment frameworks. By employing natural capital approaches—defined as the modeling, mapping, and quantification of nature's benefits—this initiative aims to inform decision-making across various stages, from initial planning to ongoing monitoring. Pilot programs in diverse regions have demonstrated the adaptability of these methods, such as in Chile, where combining ecosystem service maps with regulatory criteria identified priority restoration areas within the Rio Bueno basin, and in the Cook Islands, where holistic mapping unified stakeholders to address flooding and pollution caused by tourism development. These efforts have successfully incentivized landowners to change practices and secured co-financing for critical infrastructure like wastewater treatment, proving that economic valuations can effectively demonstrate public willingness to pay for environmental restoration.
Further expanding the scope of these initiatives, projects in Uruguay, Ecuador, Sri Lanka, Armenia, and China illustrate how natural capital assessment directly influences legislation and financial strategies. In Uruguay, an analysis revealed that wetland ecosystem services are valued at three times the rental value of agricultural land, leading to a water code amendment that protects these vital areas. Similarly, in China's South Dongting Lake, the calculation of Gross Ecosystem Product highlighted that regulating services like flood mitigation contribute over 60% of the lake's total value, serving as a crucial form of climate resilience. This metric is intended not to replace Gross Domestic Product but to complement it by capturing overlooked ecological values, thereby supporting green finance mechanisms, eco-compensation schemes, and strategic land-use planning that prioritizes restoration in high-value areas.
The successful scaling of these models relies heavily on strengthening institutions, fostering multi-agency collaboration, and translating complex environmental data into actionable decisions for policymakers. Key strategies for long-term institutionalization include leveraging initial successes to secure additional funding, integrating diverse financial sources, and breaking down silos between different government bodies. Crucially, the process emphasizes that financing instruments must be data-driven and address the needs of both nature and people to ensure permanence. This requires a shared language between economists and ecologists, supported by networks of country champions who can facilitate replication across sectors and nations. Ultimately, the project underscores that providing the right information at the right time during early planning stages is essential for designing effective financial instruments like bonds or loans linked to ecosystem service performance, ensuring that economic growth remains aligned with planetary health.
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All right, welcome back for lunch.
If you weren't here this morning, I am
Lisa Mandal, co-executive director of
the Natural Capital Alliance. Welcome to
this session on the people, planet,
prosperity project or 3P's project,
country applications of natural capital
in policy and planning. Unlike the
morning sessions, we're all in plenary.
If this is not the session, I hope this
is the session you are want to be in. We
welcome everybody. If you were expecting
to be in a different session, there are
a couple of concurrent sessions which
will be down the hall in the in the
Fiser Conference Center, but I hope
you'll stay.
So, we're we're thrilled to be marking
the culmination of the 3P project in
person in this way. Um, this session is
going to provide a practical look at
what it means to use natural capital
approaches to bring natural capital
information into policy and planning. um
to it's a chance to share lessons
learned and experiences and stories um
and answer some of the the questions we
were talking about in the morning panel
about what does success look like and
how do we overcome challenges. So I'll
provide a brief introduction and then we
have actually two panel sessions. Um so
I'll quickly turn things over to the
panel to get into the really exciting
parts.
So, we've mentioned the three-piece
project a number of times. Um, and the
goal is to mainstream nature in policy
and finance decisions. This has been a
real collaboration across multiple um
multilateral uh development banks and a
number of funders to make this project a
reality.
I know I and many others have have been
talking about natural capital approaches
a bunch of times. I don't think we've
really defined that term yet. For folks
who aren't already familiar with it,
when we're talking about natural capital
approaches, we're talking about modeling
and mapping and quantifying benefits
that nature provides to people and
incorporating those values into policy
and investment decisions in order to
achieve better outcomes for people and
nature together. So this this goal of
being benefiting people and benefiting
nature and recognizing those links
between the two,
the three piece project really aimed to
co-develop these natural capital
approaches with collaborators from
country governments and from these
multilateral development banks in order
to drive new policy and finance
decisions and to develop capacity within
countries and within institutions for
long-term systemic change.
And the uh the ambition was not just to
um drive that change within the
countries where we were working, but
really to be able to scale that by
sharing lessons learned for governments,
for development banks and financial
institutions to be able to replicate
this approach um in you know countries
around the world.
Mary showed this slide before um so I
won't go into details but just to say
that across the 16 countries where we
worked there were 16 kind of different
flavors of natural capital approaches
and I think a main takeaway here is that
natural capital approaches can enter
into um decision-making processes across
a whole spectrum everywhere from initial
planning and developing strategies all
the way through to implementation to
then monitor monitoring and reporting um
and verification.
So there's not no one wrong way to get
started and many many ways um to advance
this work.
So on the panel on this session today,
you'll hear from 10 of the 16 um
representatives from 10 of the 16
countries where we have been
implementing these approaches covering
the um interamerican development bank
pilot countries in the LAC Latin America
and Caribbean region and the um pilots
done in collaboration with the Asian
development bank in the Asia-Pacific
region. And I think a few key things um
will be you'll few key messages I think
that we'll we'll hear from this panel
are that one natural capital approaches
as I said before can support multiple
phases of decision-m
um and that these approaches are really
most impactful when they're designed to
answer questions the needs of decision
makers the questions decision makers
have and that it's the data and the
numbers and the maps are really
important but on their own they only go
so far and the real change and
transformation happens when these
approaches are embedded in within
institutions.
So we'll hear from from speakers in two
panels. The first panel um which will be
moderated by my colleague Duval Jaguno
from the Interamerican Development Bank
is focused on zoning compensation and
planning and then we'll have a second
panel moderated by my colleague natural
capital alliance senior scientist Ector
Angorita on finance and natural capital.
So with that I will hand it over to you
Dval. Thank you.
[applause]
Thank you very much Lisa and
congratulation for this the napk
symposium and this panel will be
bilingual in Spanish and English in
English and some of the presentation
could be in Spanish some could be in
English
the panel
will focus in how apply natural capital
assessment in soning compensate
compensation and planning decisions. I
introduce is a speaker just before they
present. The first speaker is from
Chile. He is Albero Chi. Albero is an
economist from economies and Chile
minister of environment and he is a he
has a central role in developing the
country natural capital accounting
framework and he is integrating in
system into territorial planning and
bodiversity policy and he will talk
about the pilot project in Rio Buueno
basin and
go ahead Albero and expect you and the
impact of this pilot project in
legislation in Chile too by the
bodiversity love implementation. Thank
you very much and very welcome Albert.
[applause]
Thank you very much. is it's a great
honor to be here to present to present
uh contributions of natural capital
approaches to the implementation of
public policies in Chile. The case of
Rio Wenobasing
what is the pilot project about uh in
Chile? Uh the pilot focused on
supporting the implementation of a new
public policy uh biodiversity policy
through a practical application of
natural capital approaches in the Rio
Bueno basin. This uh decision uh was
made by the natural capital committee um
because this territory uh has a lot of
um variety of ecosystem services bene
beneficiaries and including um local
communities and indigenous people as
well.
The curve the curve focus uh is um
operationalized um the biodiversity
offset instrument under Chile's new
biodiversity and predicted area service
the SPAP to compensate residual
environmental impacts.
The methodology combined ecosystem
services assessment natural capital
evaluation and policy analysis.
The key products included delivered
decision support tools um such as um
ecosystem services uh maps, economic
maps, regulatory uh criteria maps and
altogether uh had to um develop a
portfolio of preferred restoration
areas. Uh it has a strategic goal design
pilot insights to guide broader policy
integration across biodiversity, water
and development. agendas.
The role of natural capital information
included spatial modeling and data
integration.
We'll um develop ecosystem ma mapping to
generate spatial data for six key
ecosystem services including water,
sediment, uh nutrients, carbon, habitat
and recreation, economic valuation of
those uh ecosystem services and a
regulatory alignment uh translated by
Chile's biodiversity offset regulation
criteria into a a functional spatial
layers uh al together um combined
um these layers to target priority areas
where biodiversity benefits um ecosystem
services co benefits economic
opportunities and regulatory priorities
converge.
What it influenced um by bringing all
this information together um helped
identify prefer restoration uh areas
where multiple objectives uh converge.
These areas represent locations where
biodiversity offset actions have the
potential to generate biodiversity gains
while also delivering uh ecosystem
service benefits and social co-
benefits. The pilot therefore provided a
transparent and evidencebased uh
approach for supporting the
implementation of the biodiversity
offsets instrument and demonstrated a
key element uh that how natural capital
approaches can strengthen the coherence
traceability and effectiveness of
environmental decision making.
Uh open questions. Uh one of the key
questions uh moving forward is how to
translate this pilot uh results in into
an operational decision support process
uh that can be systematically adopted by
public institutions. Um while the pilot
demonstrated uh the value of integrating
ecological, economic and regulatory
information, an important next step is
understanding how these approaches um
can be embedded into institutional
process in a long-term uh work uh and
scaled across different territories and
policy instruments and that's is
precisely uh the next steps for the new
project. So thank you very much.
>> [applause]
>> Thank you.
Thank you very [applause]
Thank you very much Alvaro. The next
presenter is Jade Deabus. Jade is a
senior scientist at CScape Solutions and
a senior fellow at natural capital
alliance. She has more than 15 years of
experience in natural capital approach.
Jet work in bise. She's part of the
famous case pilot project in Bise as
well the cook islands focuses in
Marilagon wet sheet and today she is not
presenting about the she is presenting
about cook island pilot project welcome
Jade
[applause]
>> Hi everyone it's nice to see you all
here some familiar faces and new ones um
so today talking about the Cook Islands.
Uh that was one of the 16 countries we
worked in as part of the 3P project. And
the Cook Islands was um I guess if I
were to put things along a spectrum, we
talked about Biz that has over a decade
of experience doing those things. Cook
Islands was kind of like a first timer
on like integrating natural capital
approaches in their decisions. That is
not to say that in their culture nature
is part of their daily lives. So
sometime there's language but there's
also culture that can show that natural
capital they just call it differently is
also important. So um when we got
together they wanted us to focus on part
of their the main island which is called
the Muri Lagoon which is also known as
the golden stretch. Why? because 75% of
their tourism goes through this area to
enjoy nature, stay in nice uh coastal
hotels and it's also one of the areas
where water is safe for local children
to go play and recreate. The challenge
is that when there's
um big development happening around
tourism, so did the wersheds get
alterred which resulted in more flooding
risk coming from the wersheds, more
landbased source pollution that ended up
turning the lagoon into an algae soup
that made it on Trip Advisor and that
that got the attention of ADB that got
the attention of the local government of
like how do we restore this lens
integrated management system which is
how things were done traditionally.
So an integrated team got together. We
had the ADB um joining the the team, the
Minister of Finance, the Ministry of
Environment and local chief leaders from
the Mur Lagoon area. We got together to
diagnose the problem and the priorities.
And what they wanted was um use this
natural capital assessment framework.
For one, um put everybody on the same
page. When you have maps that shows
what's going on in a holistic way all
the way from the summit of the mountains
to the lagoon, it kind of takes away the
argument of like what's going wrong and
brings everybody together to find a
solution over there as well. Um it's a
different land tenure system. the
government doesn't tell to doesn't get
to tell people what to do on their land.
The local chief holders are the ones who
decide. And so what the government saw
in the value of these approaches is that
it could help create incentivized land
owners to also change their practices.
Um the other piece of why they wanted to
do this kind of work was also to bring
co-inancing and develop finance
mechanisms. one to help fund a
wastewater treatment plant that ADBA is
co-inancing and the other one was also
to help um bring resources for local
grassroot nos who wanted to restore the
river systems and so we got together
around tables with pen and colors and
maps and we started drawing things to
see where do we do things and how um and
then we had our team uh take this
information put it into GIS into invest
test models to look at, okay, if we were
to bring back if we were to envision
this future, um, how would it change
sediment runoff, nutrient runoff, and
flood risk? We got some, uh, good
results that showed that bringing back
the repair and buffers could reduce
sediment uh, runoff by over 50%. We we
also found that bringing uh building
green spaces along the the watershed
length could help reduce flooding risk.
And um and we also saw that the
wastewater treatment plant could reduce
nutrient runoff by over 90%.
And so this information was taken a bit
further because that was telling us
what's the potential trade-offs that
we're making by changing landscape
practices. And the ADB economy team did
an economic valuation of like who would
be willing to pay and how much to make
those things come to life. And we found
they in um they did the survey with
residents and tourists and they were
able to find out that uh both of them
were willing to pay one-off donation
over $300 to bring back water quality to
its highest standards. And so today this
information is being used to help bring
co-inancing. It's also being uh this
approaches are being taken up by the
government and replicated in other
watersheds under Jeff 7 89. Sorry, I
can't keep track of all these Jeff Grant
rounds. Um but just to show you that
we're starting small of a pilot, we were
able to have something that rippled out
um across the island and into the
regional space as well. Thank you.
[applause]
>> Thank you very much, J. Uh the next
presenter is from Uruguay is Veronica
Pinu. Veronica is the national director
of biodiversity and ecosystem service at
minister of environment.
She has an large background in
environmental governments and national
and municipal levels. She is biologist
and she has a master degree in
agricultural science from the University
of the Republic. Welcome Veronica.
>> [applause]
>> Hi, good morning everyone. It's a
pleasure to share Uruguay experience
using natural capital assessment to
support wetland conservations in in
Uruai. Our pilot project focus on
generate scientific evidence to inform
implementation of Uruguay's wetland
protection policy through a natural
capital assessment. Wetland cover around
12% of Uruguay's territory and are
distributed uh around the entire
country. They provide essential benefits
to both nature and people including
carbon storage, flow regulation, water
supply and coastal protection. Despite
their importance, wetlands have historic
historically been viewed as a land
available for agricultural extension
infrastructure and urb development
leading to widespread drainage and
degradation. Again this h this
background our objective was not only to
generate new information but also to
strengthen technical capacity within
government improve coordination across
institution and promote innovation in
environmental policy.
The project was implemented over one
year by a multi-disiplinary team
composed of government staff and local
consultants working closely with senior
government officials. the ID IDB and the
natural capital project to assess
ecosystem service. We used the invest
modeling platform develop development by
the natural capital project. This
allowed us to map and quantify four key
ecosystem service carbon storage flood
mitigation water supply and coastal
protection. The analysis uh were
conducted at different spatial scales
depending the on the policy questions
and the availability of data. Carbon
storage was assessed nation nationwide
coastal protection along Europe's
coastline and flood mitigation and water
supply across the country's four main uh
river basins.
We then com we then combine this spatial
analysis with both monetary and
non-monetary valuation methods to better
capture the benefit wlands provide to
society.
So how does this information influence
decision making? Recently Uruguay
approved an amendment to its uh water
code establishing legal protection for
wetlands of environmental importance.
Under this regulation, drainage and
other activities that degradate the
wetlands are prohibited.
Initially, environmental importance,
wetlands are were identified using
ecological criteria such as size,
biodiversity, and proximity to urban
areas. Our natural capital assessment
complemented this process by identifying
to wetland that also provide the
greatest benefits to society through
ecosystem service. As a result, the
assessment provides an evidence base for
implementing and monitoring the new
regulation while also supporting future
land use planning and the development on
of additional policy instrument for
wlands both inside and outside the
currently protected areas. And let me
finish uh one result that illustrate why
this work matters. Considering only
three ecosystem service, carbon storage,
flood mitigation and water supply, the
annual value generated by one ectar of
wetland is approximately three times
higher than the market rental value of
agricultural land in Uruguay. [snorts]
We also found that wetlands currently
protect 8% of Uruguay's coastal
population from coastal hazard and under
future climate change scenarios this
figure
could increase to 19%.
This findings help demonstrate that the
conservation conservating wetlands is
not only an environmental policy, it's
also a sound economic investment and a
key strategy for building residence to
climate change. Thank you.
>> [applause]
>> Thank you very much, Veronica. The next
presenter is from my own country,
Ecuador. Ecuador, Francisco Lopez.
Francisco Lopez is the under secretary
of the macroeconomic management at the
minister of finance in Ecuador. He
worked previously in the central bank of
Ecuador and the national secretary of
planning and development. He is
economist from the Pontifysia University
Catholica de Ecuador and he has a master
degree from the University of Barcelona.
He will present our pro pilot project in
Yasuni Bospera
Biospera research in the Amazon region
in Ecuador. Thank you very much and
welcome Francisco. [applause]
>> Thank you very much Dual. I will be the
first that present or make his
presentation in Spanish. So I'm glad to
see the first one
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very much Francisco. H the next
presenter is Narayan Ayar. Narayan Ayer
is the principal natural resource and
agricultural specialist and the Asan
development banks. He leads the
development of a regional natural
capital lab and concessional natural
capital funds. He he works in many
projects across Asia Pacific including E
Sri Lanka and Armenia. He is going to
present do two pilot projects in Sri
Lanka and Armenia. Thank you very much
and welcome Nar. [applause]
>> Thanks Tom. Thank you and thanks for the
introduction. Uh and thanks for
tolerating me for a second time but I
will be back. I threaten you. [laughter]
Uh
so uh uh I've actually I I made some
slides but I think I'll only show one
slide on Sri Lanka and Armenia I'll
probably just talk through. Uh
so I think by now the audience is kind
of aware of uh what uh the pilot
assessments uh in general were about so
I'm not going to dwell specifically on
on on on the concept but I'll directly
dive into Sri Lanka. Uh I haven't uh put
a map of Sri Lanka here in retrospect I
think I should have. So it's it's the
pearl of the Indian Ocean. It's you know
an island that is shaped like a pearl
which is why it's called pearl of the
Indian Ocean. uh and the southern part
of Sri Lanka is is where its water
resides and you know Sri Lanka gets
rainfall mainly through the southwest
monsoon and a little bit of the receding
monsoon as well but mainly southwest and
the way the terrain is and the way the
climate you know uh is most of the
rainfall is you know coming down from
the south and as it uh as the clouds go
over the north it just doesn't rain. So
the northern part is fairly dry and is
scarce. It's water scarce whereas the
southern part has excess water. So we've
been helping you know the uh government
to uh to uh figure out how to you know
[snorts] use the excess water in the
south in the north. And uh uh we've had
we've done uh we've helped them uh set
up irrigation projects that can take
water from the excess in the south and
deliver it to the north. Uh now the
problems there are obviously you know
issues with every project. So with this
project as well we [snorts] found that
uh over a period of time there is a
reduction in the amount of water that is
you know going through from south to
north. Uh and uh the risk of you know
that continuing to happen uh was of
course uh significant and uh we also you
know in our plan uh had a phase two of
this project where we would enhance the
irrigation capacities as the you know
country grows and as the population in
the north also grows. uh so which meant
that any fresh investment that you know
uh both the government and ADB would
make was subject to the same risk and
perhaps you know higher degree of risk.
uh and we we thought that you know we
would use this pilot to demonstrate how
a project could be designed to you know
uh use data use analytics to reduce
risks uh and maybe also inform ways of
uh you know how you can mitigate that
risk uh
okay so I'm being asked to leave
[laughter]
uh the
So I have taken a little bit of time to
explain the context because I think
that's important. uh you know otherwise
you you it it's very easy to say okay I
have these invest models I have models
for you know SDR I have models for uh
tourism I have models for whatever else
and uh uh and then you know some input
and there's some output uh but if you
understand the context it helps to uh to
so what we did here was we applied
inverse models we applied this you know
sediment delivery ratio models uh
primarily to figure out you know the
sedimentation and the you know soil
erosion that was causing the
sedimentation in the you know irrigation
pipes [snorts] uh and also some of the
uh you know water sheds uh there where
sedimentation was reducing the storage
capacity of of so the idea was to figure
that out and also look at potential
solutions the solution that we we
examined and it's not the only solution
but the solution we examined was you
know how see Sri Lanka has a lot of tea
that's grown and that part of Sri Lanka
also has a significant amount of tea
gardens uh so we examined conversion of
some of the tea gardens into forest land
you know grow more vegetation so that
the erosion of soil is reduced uh and we
applied you know the optimization models
the root optimization to uh to evaluate
different scenarios. For instance, what
if you convert all the tea you know
growing areas into forest or what if you
convert only you know part of it into
forest or what if you don't convert any
u and you have cost and benefits in all
these scenarios and you know the pilot
recommended a particular scenario
obviously somewhere in between.
>> [snorts]
>> Uh the one unique thing about this pilot
was the involvement of you know the
local stakeholders both local
researchers, local academicians, local
government uh in this process uh and we
also uh undertook a training of uh you
could say training the trainers uh so
that they could uh you know go out and
advocate for these kind of approaches to
better inform form uh you know uh
projects in the country. Uh we relied
initially on the on global data for
these models. uh there was some amount
of I think tweaking uh for local uh uh
uh you know but but uh during the
training of trainers it was quite clear
uh to everyone that you need more local
data and bringing together all the local
stakeholders
also makes it easier for you know for
the pilot for for the analytics uh
access to local data becomes much easier
when people locally are convinced it's
not that data cannot be collected just
that people are not convinced about the
importance of doing that. Uh
let me stop here. I think I have run out
of time for Armenia but if you give me
one minute okay
>> I'll just you know quickly I'll just
I'll just kind of just state what we did
there. So uh Armenia has six major river
basins. Uh we selected one of those
river basins called Ararat River Basin.
uh every river basin has uh a river
basin management plan and these plans uh
are updated every 5 years and they have
their own staggered schedule. So it's
not that every river basin is doing at
the same time. Uh so when we were uh
planning this pilot uh there were two or
there were three river basins that we
could have you know gone with we chose
the Ararat river basin because that's a
significant one. That's where the
capital Yavan is. It contributes to 30%
of the country's GDP. Uh so we went to
the government and we agreed with them
that we would you know look at uh uh
assessments the you know assessments of
the ecosystems there to figure out the
contribution of these ecosystems to that
you know to the Ararat River. uh how
they impact the quality of water, how
they impact the flow of water, which are
the specific ecosystem that are
important, what is the relative
importance uh
[laughter] sorry Tom at the risk of you
know being veiled outside at night
[laughter]
I'm going to take a few more seconds uh
so so our assessment you know also
valued uh those that uh river basin I I
mean it was some of the values of the
ecosystems there of the benefits. Uh and
uh we uh we wrote one chapter of the
updated uh uh river basin management
plan [snorts] uh where which dealt with
the contribution of of the of natural
capital in that river basin uh to uh uh
to the rivers uh flow and quality. Uh
some of the major stakeholders that
benefited from this were you know the
energy producers, the farmers, uh the
fisher folk um and uh well I mean that
river basin management plan is being
adopted and we are uh uh we are hopeful
that there will be action at a later
stage uh on this uh which can lead to
maybe potential investments to derisk uh
the flow of the river. Incidentally, in
the Sri Lanka project, uh we actually
approved a $200 million loan in December
2025. And that loan, the design of that
was informed uh to some extent by the by
the analysis that the pilot did. I'll
stop here, Tom.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. [applause]
Thank you very much.
Okay,
we have question for the for the panel.
I will short in the in the in the in the
questions and I if you want Alvaro I I
will do my my my question in Spanish for
you. Alvaro
Rio
Chile.
Thank you very much.
Um
I think that um the key element in this
uh pilot was uh start from the beginning
uh alto together uh scientists uh public
policy managers, economists, researchers
and of course the natural capital
committee helps to that because uh that
um includes
several ministries regarding
environment, finance, economy um and
additionally the central bank and um a
specific uh scientific um uh
organization the CTCI
um organization and so we had all
together in the same table. Um and
additionally uh we had the support of
Stanford and a huge uh academic um team
and additionally some Chilean uh
scientist from uh universities. So um
the pilot was uh designed in order to
support a public policy considering this
uh scientific approach. So I think that
is uh was the key element and
additionally um data uh of course uh
that is another key element uh having um
a very um accessible uh very um uh
updated and useful information for
policy uh and decision making. Um that
is a key a key element. uh we had to
collect data from different services uh
and that is a challenge to have all this
information in uh uh we hope in a one uh
window um platform um and additionally
the process I think that um
taking into uh consideration all the
objectives uh
from different uh actors uh but from the
I think that is a a key.
>> Thank you very much Alvaro. Very very
interesting approach in Chile. Jay from
you in the Cook Islands. Uh how did the
integration of natural capital evidence
inform decision making in a small island
content context and what lessons can be
applied to strength science policy
uptake and scaling across other island
systems?
Thanks for this question. [laughter]
>> Um, so I think the one way that I see
scaling happening is also through um
kind of like sister initiatives like the
UNDP blue green island program where
they're working with 15 SIDS countries
around the world to basically scale
these approaches, embed them in policy
coherence and uh help reform finance
mechanisms. So it's nice to see that
there is multiple efforts happening from
different organizations that all aim
towards similar goals.
>> Okay. Thank you very much J
for Veronica. I will do in Spanish.
I turn to Spanish for for the question
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The final question is for Narayan.
Narayan
drawing on the pilots in Sri Lanka and
Armenia. Why which financing modies
models show the greatest potential to
mobilize investment and how can
multilateral development banks structure
them to enable replication and scaling
across many countries?
>> Uh okay I mean honest answer is neither
of these two projects showed any
financial you know uh instrument or
anything that could readily be
available.
>> Okay. But [snorts] in general uh what I
would like to say is uh these kind of uh
assessments where we may you know be
able to uh come with some kind of
valuation some kind of uh benefits
projections
uh from different ecosystems.
Uh these are amanable to design for
example uh payment for ecosystem service
mechanisms.
uh we have been doing you know this in
other projects without you know having
really uh done this kind of assessments
uh I mean you can value uh you know a
set of future cash flows or you can
value any asset in any manner you don't
have to do you know the assessments of
this kind but if you do uh you know
assessments based on data then you have
a lot more confidence uh in the
valuation numbers that you come up with
[snorts] uh and uh you also would have
some basis uh you know to uh on the
basis of which you could agree with all
the stakeholders involved. So for
instance uh in in the case of Sri Lanka
uh if we are to have uh you know the
solution that was you know proposed for
the tea gardens where uh we propose that
you know some proportion of the tea
gardens be converted to say forests so
that now there is a loss of revenues for
the owners of those tea gardens. So how
should they be compensated?
uh doing these kind of valuations or do
doing these kind of assessments could
you know form a basis for uh
compensating them. Uh there could be
other ways of determining this as well
but this is one way. I mean you could
you know uh you could design uh for
instance uh bonds or you could design
loans where the payment you know uh
repayment part of it or maybe the coupon
can be uh you know a function of the
value underlying valuation of you know
some of these services. If the future
values if you conduct valuation let's
say on an annual basis and and the
valuation changes for instance you know
then the payments uh uh underlying
payments on these instruments could
change so it could be a floating you
know uh kind of a floating rate so
>> thank you very much thank you very much
for everybody thank you very much Jay
thank you very much Alvaro Veronica
Francis Disco and Nayan, you're you're
amazing presenters and you are amazing
showing your project pilots in your
countries. This is only five of the
pilot countries of the system around the
world with the natural capital alliance.
Ector Angarita will be the moderator of
the next of the next panel and Ector who
he will part of the private polls in
Chile in Uruguay and Ecuador too. Ector
you are very welcome to the second
panel.
[applause]
Thank you very much.
Yeah. Hi everyone. It's good to be here
hosting this second panel. Uh we're
going to move now into another element
that we have worked in this in this
three-piece project. Uh that is a
fundamental part of the innovations that
we're trying to drive across different
countries which is how natural capital
information enters into finance
mechanism and investment decisions.
Narayan was just precisely giving us a
good segway into this when he was
commenting during his answer the
possibility to design different types of
of of finance cycles based on on this
natural capital information, bonds,
payment systems, accounting framework,
fiscal instruments. And so the idea is
that we're going to have here direct
information from four countries that
develop this type of applications in the
three-piece project.
So um I'm going to well I'm going to
introduce each of the panelists and for
each of them we're going to have like
five minutes four minutes sorry for a
brief [clears throat] presentation and
then we're going to have a few
questions. I hope it's going to be a
very interesting conversation with all
our all our panelists today here. So
first of all I would like to uh to start
with Camilo Diaz from Colombia. Camilo
is an economist with over 15 years of
experience in natural capital and
economic valuation and biodiversity
finance and he's currently consulting
for the interamerican development bank
in Colombia. He worked for the
Colombia's 3PB project in also being
part of the government uh in 2024 which
produced a biohysical and monetary
valuation of ecosystem services from
protected areas forming the quantitative
basis for protected area reform under
the new policy of Colombia to strengthen
the the financing of protected areas and
the new climate action law to implement
natural capital accounting across the
country. So welcome Camilo.
>> [applause]
>> Hi everyone.
I'm going to give the presentation in
Spanish.
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interdisiplinario
Natural
Capital Alliance,
Washington.
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natural.
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Columbia
Claria.
>> [applause]
>> Yeah, thank you Camilo. Um, now I would
like to uh invite Beverly Wade. Erh
she's the chief executive officers of
BISE ministry of blue economy and marine
conservation with over 25 years of
experience in fisheries management
marine conservation sustainable
financing and carbon markets in the biz
three piece pilot design keys key
performance indicators covering coastal
ecosystem health fisheries tours and
inclusive governance forming the
monitoring reporting and verification
system underpinning the country's 364
billion million blue bond and project
finance for performance. So, welcome
Beverly.
[applause]
Thank you very much. I'll try to keep up
with the brutal timekeeper.
[laughter]
Um, so Biz is a natural um is is a
nature-based economy. 70% of our GDP is
said to be directly linked to to nature
in Bise. And so for us um we see nature
positive economics as being central to
our prosperity and our development.
So the trapeze project for us um
basically allowed us to actively anchor
our sustainable blue economic
development in resultsbased finance. Um
it is helping us develop a set of 34
KPIs
covering environmental,
economic and social indicators
to explicitly track nature people
connections.
So while our historic blue bun agreement
was successfully was successful,
um unleashing future results based
financing requires scientific proof of
progress. And so this pilot for us
centralizes our national framework
linking ecosystems health directly to
socioeconomic outcomes and providing the
rigorous foundation which is required
for upcoming instrument like our project
finance for permanence and future
outcomebased financing frameworks.
For us, natural capital information has
been central to our planning. We are a
country that has made its mark really in
looking at planning especially within
our blue space. And so we we aren't
really starting from scratch. We
consider ourselves now a proof of
concept which we're very much proud of.
Um
we are actually proud that from 2016
we've been using Stanford's invest and
root tools to model future scenarios and
embedding them um along with habitat
maps and risk into our integrated
coastal zone planning. And I'm very
happy and pleased to announce that we've
used those tools again in our recently
revised integrated coastal zone
management plan that was endorsed by
parliament in November of last year. Um,
and now this year we're hoping to
deliver our marine spatial plan for
entire ocean space reinforcing the data
coming out of these tools.
And so we're simply moving beyond
tracking ecosystems.
Um but we're looking at measuring the
socioeconomic contributions of natural
capital to the economy and well-being.
The frameworks for us we believe is
gamechanging
and it's building a centralized
framework to turn raw data into
investable assets. And so for us there
are three main objectives. unifying our
data and that's to allow us to prove to
our partners and our citizens that
nature positive investments are yielding
tangible social and ecological results.
It allows us to be um more successful at
adaptive management
and very importantly it allows us to
have trusted verifiable baselines to now
trigger payouts and rewards
um in our
progress in monetizing natural capital
in biz. Um finally I just want to say
that in terms of the 3P's project it has
allowed us to make major step in
bridging the nexus in policy and finance
and it will allow us to create a
national dashboard where these KPIs will
be accessible to decision makers, policy
makers, users at large and it allows us
to have more policy alignment rather
Rather than acting in isolated
exercises, the Tree Peace Project has
allowed us to be more integrated and to
prove to international markets that our
natural capital assets are functioning
effectively, thereby helping us to
derisk some of the credit gaps that we
face within our blue economy, especially
within our MSMES. Thank you very much.
>> [applause]
>> Thank you so much Beverly. Now I would
like to um call to the stage to do
director Laurelin Claudio.
Director Laurel Cladio serves as
director for of the ecosystem research
and development bureau under the
Philippines department of environment
and natural resources with an extensive
career in public service including pri
prior leadership across multiple
regional offices of the environment
management bureau of Philippines. In
this pilot, Philippines developed a
watershed ecosystems account to support
implementation of the 2024 Pankas Act,
establishing a national mandate for
national natural capital accounting and
the design of an ADB policy based loan
for this institutionalization
nationwide. So, welcome Director Lur
Melon.
[applause]
>> Thank you, Hector. Good afternoon my
co-etakers of the environment and
natural resources.
Let me share with you the Philippine
experience which demonstrates that
transformation occurs when NCA is
embedded within existing institutions,
the planning systems and stakeholder
processes.
Traditional economic indicators such as
the g gross domestic product measure
current production and income but they
do not account for the condition
depletion or enhancement of the natural
assets that sustain economic activity.
Forest can be cleared, fisheries
depleted, watersheds degraded and
biodiversity lost. While economic output
may continue to increase in the short
term, yet these changes impose
significant long-term cost on societies,
economies, and future generations.
Natural capital accounting addresses
this gap. NCA recognizes ecosystems as
productive assets that generate benefits
essential to human well-being and
economic prosperity. By systematically
measuring ecosystem extent, condition
and the services nature provides, NCA
makes this contribution visible in
planning, policy and investment
decision. In doing so, NCA fundamentally
changes how development is understood.
It shifts the question from how much
economic growth are we generating today
to are we maintaining the natural
capital that will sustain prosperity in
the future for countries whose economies
and communities depend heavily on
natural resources. This perspective is
particularly important. The Philippines
is one such country. The Philippines is
among the world's most biodiversity
rich and climate vulnerable nations with
development pathways deeply intertwined
within the health of ecosystems.
Watershed support water security,
agriculture, disaster resilience,
biodiversity conservation, energy
production and local livelihoods. The
country has 2,224
delineated
waterheds and 131 of these are priority
waterheds. Many of these directly
support irrigation systems, domestic
water supply, agriculture and other
economic activities. [snorts] Because of
this watershed decisions are
fundamentally development decisions.
Environmental sustainability, food
security, water security, disaster
resilience and local livelihoods are
inseparable
from ecosystem health. NCA therefore
provides a framework for ensuring that
nature is recognized not as an external
concern but as a core component of
national wealth and sustainable
development. The question for the
Philippines was never whether natural
capital matters. The real challenge was
how to incorporate the value of nature
into actual government planning,
investment, and decision making
processes.
The three-piece initiative is a global
effort led by Stanford University's
natural capital project together with
the development partners including ADB,
IDB, and the World Bank. The initiative
aims to uh integrate the value of nature
into development policy and investment
decision across participating countries
in the Philippines. We are so thankful
that ADB and Stanford provided technical
assistance to DNR in the form of
capacity building.
Stanford's natural capital alliance
delivered capacity building using the
invest tool and ecosystem service
modeling that was so helpful for the
country. ADB also supported valuation
and policy related capacity development.
However, DNR made an important strategic
decision. Rather than conducting
standalone training activities, the
capacity building effort was anchored in
an actual government project. This
became what we call now the DNR ERDB's
vulnerability assessment and natural
capital accounting project. The VANCA
project goal was to determine whether
NCA could be integrated into existing
government systems. We now have the
Stomas watershed which becomes a
demonstration site for testing how NCA
could support real world watershed
management.
The VACA project was implemented in
Stomas Watershed in Sales and it
combined watershed characterization and
vulnerability assessment, ecosystem
accounting concepts, ecosystem service
assessment, environmental monitoring,
stakeholder engagement and it generated
information on ecosystem condition,
vulnerability, carbon sedimentation,
sediment retention I should say, water
related EOS system services. But the
most important question was not what
information could be generated. The more
important question was how can how can
this information influence planning and
management decisions. This required
moving beyond assessment. It required
governance.
Information alone does not change
outcomes. Institutions and stakeholders
do to support utilization of projects.
results. DNR convened the stakeholders
consultation and action planning
workshop two weeks ago and the workshop
shifted the discussion from assessment
output toward implementation.
Stakeholders work together to validate
the project findings, identify priority
interventions and clarify governance
rules.
Okay,
this the June workshop is not the end of
the process. A follow-up activity is
scheduled for September and the results
from the workshop and succeeding
engagement will also contribute to a
policy brief intended to support future
um institutionalization.
Okay.
Now um let me share with you the
transition. The experience reinforce an
important lesson. NCA implementation
cannot be accomplished by a single
agency. So we have departments that
handle aquan comp compilation, policy
integration and development planning and
translation of information into local
action.
The Philippine experience demonstrates
that NCA becomes transformational when
it moves beyond accounting. It becomes
transformational when it strengthens
institutions, improves planning,
supports governance, enables
collaboration, informs investments, and
helps translate environmental
information into decisions. The
Philippines is still early in its NCA
journey. However, through Pencast, the
three-piece partnerships, the VANCA
project, and stakeholder-driven
implementation efforts, we are beginning
to move from assessment toward
institutionalization.
And ultimately, that is what sustainable
development requires. Not simply
understanding nature, but ensuring that
nature is systematically considered in
how decisions are made. That is how we
could translate the novel concept of
sustainable development into practical
reality. Thank you.
[applause]
Thank you, Director Lorine. Uh now,
finally, I would like to call
Dr. Tong Woo. is a senior scientist here
at the natural capital alliance at n at
Stanford University where he leads China
related initiatives and research focused
on mainstreaming biodiversity and
ecosystem services into decision making
and economic planning uh with a focus on
the gross economic gross ecosystem
product that we going to hear more in
future sessions of of the event for this
project Dr. Tong Wu directed the project
of the South Donging Lake producing a
GDP evaluation of 49 billion yuan that
now fits into a dual framework for GDP
GDP performance metrics and an echo
compensation program that is
incentivizing land stewardship and
restoration. So welcome Dr. Du
[applause]
Hector. Do you want me to do this in
Spanish?
>> Someone asked me u what El Nino meant in
English once and I said I think it means
the Nino. Um
so uh I don't have slides uh but I guess
I'll just talk until someone stops me.
Um
as Hector mentioned um a lot of uh my
work and and the work of many others at
NACAP is focused on this indicator
called gross ecosystem product which you
heard about earlier today from professor
Oang from uh professor Steve Paskki
and in this particular project we worked
with our Asia Development Bank
colleagues uh Nion um and others to uh
pilot the the accounting and with an eye
to future application of uh GP in South
Ding Lake. Now, Dunting Lake is the
second largest freshwater lake in China.
It's one of the largest freshwater lakes
in Asia and it's also a major node in
the uh regional flyway uh and so the
regional flyway initiative is uh for
migratory birds is also another key
project of of our ADB friends. And so we
realized that this particular pilot was
had very special characteristics
and by p you know innovating the
application of of GP here we could you
know potentially meet several goals at
the same time. So Donting Lake it's
situated in the Yangti River Basin uh
and so it's a it's a very crucial
watershed uh for this uh entire river
basin in which more than 400 million
people live. But at the same time,
Daunting Lake is under a lot of land use
pressures. The land use pressures from
urbanization. In to the south of
Daunting Lake, there's a a very large
urban elomeration. Uh and to the north,
there's a lot of agriculture. And so,
you know, this is a ecosystem. This is a
eco region that's being kind of
pressured from multiple sides and by
multiple land development pressures. So
we wanted to use GP as a way to account
uh to reveal the economic value of this
vital ecosystem uh in order to kind of
ward off or potentially channel in
different directions some of those land
use pressures.
One of the key things to to note about
what our calculations found was that
over 60% of South Ding Lakes's GDP is in
regulating services. And so this is the
regulating services such as uh climate
regulation, uh flood mitigation, water
retention. So many of those functions
that make nature a form of
infrastructure as you heard about this
morning. And so we were um you know very
uh interested with that result because
you know as climate change continues at
pace you know this is going to be one of
the the areas that's going to see a lot
of um climate impacts and so you know
the value of G that GDP is revealing in
this particular case is also a form of
climate resilience.
Your signs don't scare me.
Uh
but you know I should say that you know
this this GP project that we did in
South Dunin Lake is you know just one of
many uh applications of GP across China
as you heard from professor Oang this
morning you know GP is being piloted uh
not piloted but adopted by cities by
provinces and increasingly at the
national level and you know the I should
say a few words about you know to
demystify what GDP is and it isn't it's
GDP sounds very much like gross domestic
product but it's you know meant not to
be a replacement but to be a partner or
a compliment. So whether in South Ding
Lake or elsewhere in China and elsewhere
in the world that we're uh applying GDP,
we're doing it as kind of a a
eco-friendly
friend or accomplice uh to GDP. We're
not using it to replace GDP because we
think GDP still captures a lot of useful
information, but what it leaves out is
what we hope to to capture with gross
ecosystem product. So thank you.
>> [applause]
>> Well, thank you everyone for your
presentations or for all describing the
the project in this very brief time. I
know it's a big effort to to keep the to
describe all the work that has been done
in in such a little time. So, uh I'm
going to have an even better challenge
now. I'm going to ask you to reply very
shortly. Um so, let's start with Camilo.
Camilo, you you wrapped up your
presentation with a very interesting
graphic that we couldn't read, but it
was sort of like a pathway between
economic valuation and then financing
instruments for biodiversity. And so I
would like to follow up a little bit on
that like can you go a little bit uh in
more details to tell us how do you go
from economic valuation of natural
capital to define the structure and the
value to pay in the economic in the
financing instrument that you're
considering for Colombia. Um please
reply in Spanish if you're more
comfortable with Okay.
Projector.
system econom. Ambientract.
See? Fore.
Thank you so much, Camilo. I would like
now to follow up with with Beverly. Um
Beverly Belise sets an example from
financing approaches that are that are
linking natural capital evidence with
investment commitments through the blue
bond initiative. Um what would be your
your your thoughts in terms of how this
model could be adapted to mobilize
resources for coastal conservation in
other small island or coastal states.
>> So I believe that the bleian model is
very much um scalable.
Um but one of the things that um is
important is that it it
has to
one be based on data. And so that is one
of the that is one of the important
areas when you're looking at these um
results based financing mechanisms
because at the end of end of the day you
have to have some way of now tracking
the impact that it's having um on the
ground and so having that national
planning um like Colombia and some and
the other countries are now working on
where where um goals are set out very
clearly in these broader instruments is
important. And I think the the other
thing is um to to um look at the the to
have that the needs from a
nature and people perspective clearly
identified nationally that you can then
incorporate into these financing um
mechanisms at the end of the day to come
back and have the real impact on the
ground so that we can um realize the
additionality in conservation um that we
really need to um realize at the end of
the day. And so the projects like the
three piece projects and the MRV systems
that we're working on allows us to
attain a certain level of readiness. And
so I think that is something that is
easily transferable to to small
countries. It doesn't have to be complex
but it's to start that system so that
you have the basis for incorporation of
these targets that are looking at nature
and people at the end of the day in
these um financing mechanisms.
>> Yeah, thank you. I may maybe a quick
follow up with you uh because um well
you you used a word that was very
interesting in your presentation. You
use the word permanence. I think that's
a feature of what's happening in BISE.
Yeah.
>> It's a long-term effort.
>> You're setting the example of how
institutions need to maintain. And so do
you have recommendations also regarding
permanence? How how do you achieve
long-term institutionalization of these
efforts?
>> Right. So one of the things for us with
regards to permanence, it's it's two
things really. It's a start. So we
started with our blue bonds and what we
did was to leverage the success of the
blue bonds now to complement to to seek
additional finance to complement what we
were doing with the blue bonds and to
look at long-term financing for that. So
we started the blue bonds and then we're
looking at a project for finance
permanence to strengthen what we're
delivering on the blue bond and now
we're looking at outcome based financing
to further strengthen and bringing what
you're looking for at the end of the day
is a sustained
um financing in the sector that that you
can only have in my view through the
combination and complementing
instruments that are looking at various
aspects that you want financing for. So
not just for nature um conservation but
now looking at um people livelihoods um
how do we ensure that what we're doing
is both nature positive and people
positive at the end of the day and the
last thing I'm going to say is that
permanence also requires that from an
institutional standpoint we become as
integrated as possible and that we um
ensure that those silos that we have
traditionally ally worked in um whether
it's from government or partners that we
now have a more integrated approach to
ensure that the systems that we have in
place are able to to now um in a in a
successful way implement track and to
and to adapt at the end of the day. And
when you have that in place, the um
there's more appetite for investment
>> and there's more appetite for
non-traditional
um financing to come into the the um
realm that you're now working in.
>> Yeah. Thank you so much, Beverly. Um now
I would like to to ask question to
director Lord Meline. Um, you you you
show this very interesting vision and
pathway for the Philippines to to
implement in this in this this
legislative mandate you have through the
Pankas law to advance into national
level national capital accounting and um
and also integrate this at a decision
level like watershed planning etc. So I
would like to ask you like what's do you
think is the most critical element that
is still needed and especially in terms
of capacity to implement this scale?
What's what's the next step for the
Philippines in terms of capacity?
>> Yeah, thank you Hector. In the
implementation of the VACA
project, we found that um there is there
is a big gap. Okay. So with that gap, we
intend to do more monitoring. Monitoring
is crucial. When you say monitoring, you
just don't don't go inspect the areas,
but you have to install
instrumentations. Instruments are very
critical and of course data management
for the DNR uh the ERDB in particular
the office which I had we have
established already the artificial
intelligence knowledge hub. So that
whatever we gather uh on ground should
now be uh uploaded and uh analyzed and
and of course uh for researchers of the
DNR to make use of it. Another thing is
capacity building. So we would like that
uh the Stanford uh and the National
Capital Alliance would still help the
the Philippines in capacity building
because we are not just capacitating the
DNR the field officers. We will be
capacitating the counterparts, the local
government units. We try to do that by
our team did that in uh as I said two
weeks ago and uh the stakeholders the
local government units are so glad that
we are reaching them out and uh we
actually did action planning. So we
validate they validated the uh findings
that we have uh done and uh what we will
be going it doing further is that um
this local uh officers will have to
report that to their principles meaning
the local leaders so that it would be
institutionalized.
So after this after the September uh
workshop that we'll be having we'll come
up with policy brief and hopefully that
will be replicated not just in Stomas uh
area but also nationwide hopefully.
>> Thank you.
>> Oh thank you so much. Um I have another
question for you but I I'll I'll come
back to you. Um now I would like to um
ask a question to Dr. Dong Wu. Um
based on your your experience in the in
the doning lake in with this dual GDP
GDP reporting framework uh what what
institutional arrangement made it
possible to embed ecosystem values into
the economic performance evaluation? I
mean how can the model be structured for
replication across different counties of
China?
So the application of GP has been um
diverse uh because it many ways it's a
very versatile indicator and a tool. It
um some of the the primary decision-m
context in which we've seen GP deployed
is uh I'll just give three broad
categories. One is to track performance.
So you can track the pro the performance
of a a certain project or you can track
the performance of a policy maker or
administrators uh use that as a KPI
right to incentivize um incentivize good
behavior. Um and then the other context
is in in green finance and so um
actually I lied there's four contexts.
So the second one is in green finance.
The so we're experimenting with
developing financial mechanisms such as
parametric insurance uh products or uh
GP link bonds. So that's another
decision-m context. And then the third
one would be in uh in China we broadly
call ecompensation but it's very related
to payments for ecosystem services. So
using GP as the rubric by which to
calibrate the the amount and the and the
um the this the the bene the the the b
linking the beneficiaries and the
suppliers. Um and then the fourth one is
just the use and land use planning
identifying where in the landscape is
producing the greatest economic value
and then you know prioritizing those
areas for restoration and protection.
Um, yeah. Again, I I want to say this
isn't it's GP isn't meant to replace a
gross domestic product. Um, they're
meant to be friends. It's like a it's
like a buddy caught movie. You know,
one's Chris Tucker and one's Jackie
Chan. You know, they work together.
>> Yeah. Fantastic. Um, well, we're we're
on time for this panel. I would love to
stay here talking with you. It's so
interesting to hear all the experience
of different perspectives. um we need to
move on to the next part of the of the
session but I will ask everyone to
please a big a big applause for for our
panelists today. [applause] Thank you
for your participation.
Um of course I invite everyone in the
audience to reach out to our panelists
today to learn more about these
projects. They are very interesting case
uh applications of natural capital and
you see there is so much else so much to
do and hopefully they will be interested
in in in starting to to align and
contribute around this. Um well okay so
now to for the panel wrap up I would
like to invite Kim Bonai the director of
capacity development at natural capital
alliance uh for a quick um for a quick
close uh session of of this this event.
Well, thank you, Kim. And uh
Okay, great. Thank you. Thanks everyone.
I will be brief because I know I stand
between you and coffee. Um so thank you
so much um all of the panelists for your
just wonderful experience and stories
and for sharing all of these great
lessons of success and these these deep
engagements and assessment processes
that really um illuminated these values
of nature and the benefits and really uh
successfully integrated them into
decisions into policies into
investments.
So I just wanted to share
um kind of three takeaways that I wanted
to leave you with um that draw from this
panel or these two panels as well as
some of the things we heard earlier
today. Um just the first is that policy
impact and um impact on investments is
happening now. We have all of these
concrete examples and um stories of
success of how natural capital
approaches, how these assessments are
positively impacting environmental and
social policies from land use planning,
zoning, biodiversity, compensation,
um infrastructure development, national
accounting. Um, and so we're we're
figuring out how to do this and we're
figuring out how to do this well. And I
would say there's there's um kind of
what we've learned is that it needs to
be the right information at the right
time to the right people. And that's all
really important. And I think all of
what we've heard has really laid out the
importance of that. Um and so the right
information there's a lot of aspects of
that from mapping to scenarios to
feasibility analysis really
understanding who is benefiting from
what and where and how might that change
with a decision or a policy who wins who
loses um how do we look at those
tradeoffs and then the right time. I
think um it's a a thread we've heard
again and again is the right time is
early early early and it's upstream it's
early in the planning process. Um I
think the idea of uh nature is
infrastructure. If we have a development
goal and we ask ourselves how might we
best reach that goal and we bring nature
into the process at the outset we can
find better ways to reach those
development goals. when we wait until
later, it's often then very difficult to
figure out how to address issues related
to impacts on nature and then the right
people. I think this is one of the most
exciting pieces that we've seen um
throughout today is this idea of these
integrated
cross ministerial
transversal teams that were a
fundamental part of these engagements
and really fundamental to their success.
And if anything, what we learned through
the past couple of years is that this is
about relationships and this is about
building trust. And oftentimes we move
at the speed of trust. And the time or
the time effort
um that it takes to build relationships
is just as much as it takes to gather
data and run analyses and models. So
building relationships and trust is
absolutely fundamental to the success of
what we are all trying to do and the
change we're trying to create in the
world. The other thing we've seen um
kind of the second big point is how we
translate economic value into financial
flows. So identifying that something has
economic value meaning social benefits,
human well-being, human welfare does not
mean money starts falling from the sky.
So economic value is not the same as
cash flow. Those are very different. So
how do we translate value into finance
into ways to pay for things? And that's
a theme that has come up again and
again. And um there's a lot of different
innovations happening, a lot of exciting
work um being done and still to be done.
But I also love the emphasis on just as
much as we need to think outside the box
about these different ways of financing
nature, we can't forget about the box
because what's in the box is also really
important. some of those basic domestic
budgets, things that we already know how
to do and to make sure that we don't get
distracted by all the shiny new objects.
Um, and I think also as part of that box
holding the burden of proof of economic
feasibility of development the same as
we are taking on that burden of proof
for nature stewardship.
And then the other piece I wanted to
emphasize is and that we've heard
throughout today is replicating,
expanding and scaling. And this idea
that how can we replicate this easier
and faster? How can we scale? And I
think one of the ways we've seen is back
to
learning each other's languages,
creating these sort of cross- sectoral
teams and institutional
guidance and mechanisms and frameworks.
Um, so if we create a common language
and I spent 20 years over 20 years
teaching economics to environmental
professionals, when we can start talking
to each other, we start talking with
each other instead of past each other.
And so that's really key. And so there
are many ways in which all of our
institutions and organizations are
working towards how do we share more
effectively? How do we build capacity?
Um we've heard talk about the MOO that
um Stanford NATCAP and IDB has just
launched and that was an incredible
collaborative effort of co-development
of also learning each other's language
ecologists economics development banks
learning how to talk to one another and
share out this information um along with
the implementation toolkit of just
really practical guidance of how can we
really replicate this. Um, and then
another idea that we wanted to share
with you, um, that we want to kind of
hear your feedback throughout the coming
days is this idea of a a natural capital
country champions network. We want to
keep this momentum going. All of you are
champions. You're doing this incredible
work and we want to help facilitate you
continuing to share this um, with other
people, with other countries. And so
it's kind of a a light touch idea that
um we'll continue to discuss with you
throughout these coming days and please
um reach out to me about it. Um so just
in summary um you all are here, you all
are already listening, you're leading,
you are diplomats and ambassadors. Um we
we know natural capital approaches work
and we know how to do them. We are
growing the ways in which we can create
financial flows for nature and we need
to keep the momentum going. We need to
scale and we need to share experiences
and capacity not just in how to do
assessments but how to institutionalize
these processes. So we're so excited to
have you all here over the coming days
and we hope we can continue these
conversations um and keep as I said
let's keep the momentum going. So thank
you all. Enjoy your coffee break.
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