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The podcast opens with a personal anecdote regarding the use of Artificial Intelligence for medical and dermatological issues, specifically addressing seborrheic dermatitis. The host recounts how traditional treatments like topical steroid creams failed to resolve his condition over two years until he utilized Google's Gemini AI by uploading photos of his skin. The AI correctly identified the issue as fungal in nature and recommended Nizoral shampoo (containing ketoconazole), which successfully cleared his face after bi-weekly application. This experience highlights a growing trend where users leverage Large Language Models (LLMs) like Gemini or ChatGPT to analyze their own photos for skincare advice, effectively acting as advanced diagnostic tools that surpass standard medical recommendations found online. The conversation then shifts from dermatology to the broader concept of "looksmaxxing," which involves using AI to optimize physical appearance through both non-surgical and surgical means. The hosts discuss apps like Cove (referred to variously in the transcript) that provide personalized facial analysis, suggesting specific procedures such as jaw surgery or recommending hairstyles and beard styles based on scientific studies to achieve symmetry. This technology allows users to visualize potential transformations without undergoing actual surgery, effectively functioning as an advanced version of FaceTune but applied to real-life planning rather than just photo editing. The hosts express amazement at how these tools can alter a person's perceived attractiveness significantly, turning what might look like a "drive-by shooting suspect" into someone resembling a soap opera star through digital manipulation and strategic aesthetic changes. Beyond individual appearance optimization, the dialogue touches upon the psychological aspects of AI interaction and meditation practices. The host describes his deep dive into meditation to combat stress-related skin issues but notes that even in quiet moments, intrusive thoughts—such as imagining footballer Arjen Robben checking a left foot—can emerge from what he calls the "monkey mind." He questions how future neural interfaces like Neuralink will distinguish between genuine user intent and these automatic behavioral patterns. The discussion also veers into pop culture references, including a recommendation for the British film *I Swear*, which tells the story of an actor with severe Tourette's syndrome who faced discrimination due to involuntary movements that caused him trouble in public life during the 1970s and 80s when the condition was poorly understood. The hosts also critique modern social behaviors surrounding image curation, noting how young people often fight over whose phone is used for photos so they can subsequently edit them using apps like FaceTune to ensure everyone looks their best in a group shot. They reference famous instances of awkward posing, such as English footballer Ashley Cole leaning off the edge of his Roma team photo at age 21, which became an enduring global meme due to how it made him appear isolated from his teammates. These examples serve to illustrate both the social pressure to curate perfect images and the humorous reality that even professional athletes struggle with natural group dynamics in front of a camera. Towards the end of the segment, the discussion is interrupted by promotional content for Momentous Fiber Plus, a dietary supplement designed to address gut health issues like digestion, barrier strength, and blood sugar stability. The sponsor emphasizes that 95% of Americans do not consume enough fiber and promotes their three-in-one formula as superior to single-purpose supplements. They offer a 30-day money-back guarantee and international shipping options while providing a discount code for listeners interested in trying the product via the link provided in the episode description, concluding with an invitation to watch the full-length version of the podcast.
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So it sounds like you're pretty serious
in meditating?
>> Yes, yeah. Well, um it it was originally
to fight off a skin condition and then
it ended up
>> Fixed that with AI.
>> Yeah, at Gemini fixed that. So the story
there was
>> Gemini fixed your syphilis?
>> The the
The that's uh Gemini fixed my face.
>> AI is here, man.
>> Sniffa gave me the symptom. Yeah. No, um
the
I had a I had se- seborrheic dermatitis
for about 2 years.
>> Okay.
Seborrheic dermatitis?
>> Seb- seborrheic dermatitis.
>> Okay, I was like, wait, what?
>> my face would break out like red and I
wouldn't want my outside of the house.
So I spoke to a few different doctors. A
lot of them recommended topical steroid
creams.
A lot of them said it was because of
stress. So I got deep into meditation. I
stopped eating like so such little sugar
that I once flagged I once got diagnosed
with type 1 diabetes, um which was a
complete false diagnosis.
>> Huh. Type 1 is pretty hard to
>> another side story. Um but I want then
when I was away No, I tracked my skin
for years and nothing would work.
Nothing would work. So when I was away
on holiday, I just uploaded the file to
Gemini and it just
>> The file? You mean a photo?
>> Yeah, no, all the photos that I have and
it just said, "Oh, just put Nizoral
shampoo on your face."
>> Oh, wow.
>> never It's never been an issue ever
since.
>> So it was fungal?
>> Yes. So the biggest the biggest
recommendation I would
>> Nizoral is ketoconazole for people who
are wondering, yeah.
>> This is for dandruff. And I do it once
again. This is for dandruff.
>> Uh it's also very effective for topical
fungal infections.
>> I did it once every 2 weeks now and it's
completely
>> [ __ ] crazy.
>> It's completely gone. It's so any
recommendation at home like a practical
thing would be just upload a photo of
yourself to Gemini or ChatGPT and just
say, "Hey, based off of what you can see
of my skin, recommend me moisturizers,
recommend me everything." and it'll be
better than
>> Do you know what people do these days?
>> do you use What do you use Gemini for
versus other models?
>> I I'm I'm a an LLM [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> Like I I
>> I'm shifting
>> He's like the Andrew Huberman of LLMs.
>> Yeah, I'm shifting each time. Oh, but
two Sorry, I didn't finish the story. So
the meditation point there
is a great question um which I ended up
learning was
asking your mind what thought's going to
come up next.
>> Mhm.
>> And it's like your mind gets a bit It's
almost this Mexican standoff. And the
problem with these devices, I once asked
myself that and my mind went quiet for 6
seconds. And then for whatever reason,
there's this former Bayern Munich winger
called Arjen Robben. And it's just him
checking in on the left foot in my head.
And it's like
that was that me?
Why is that there? So, if I have a
neuralink device, it's an interesting
one of how does it know what was me
versus what's just my monkey mind doing
strange behaviors?
>> Yeah. You know, um
>> I can't wait to see the first failed
demos of You know what I mean? Like
these epic software demo fails. And
someone gets up and it's just like [ __ ]
[ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT
PENIS PENIS penis
>> Especially given that the likelihood of
it being Elon to do the first
presentation is quite high. A man with a
mind that I don't think anybody wants to
see broadcast out into public.
>> Did you see that demo of the uh
Cybertruck where he was on stage?
>> And he smashed the window. He's like,
"Wait, that's not supposed to happen."
Um
>> The best film I've watched all year,
it's a British film. It's probably one
of the best like storytelling examples
I've ever heard. So, people will know it
from the Brits Award. It was this
horrific incident where Michael B.
Jordan went on stage and somebody
shouted the N-word out. And it was this
huge controversial incident. But what
actually happened was it was a guy who
has one of the most severe form of
Tourette's.
And he was
>> He was the subject of
>> He was subject of the film. So, he was
at the BAFTAs. So, the film is called I
Swear. And it's incredible because this
guy grew up in Scotland, which is like
think about all the stereotypes you have
about England. Like the further north
you get, the more like harsher
essentially is.
>> Yeah. It's why people from Aberdeen are
some of the most like brutal people on
the planet.
>> So, this man grew up with extreme
Tourette's in the '70s, '80s England
when nobody knew what the condition was.
So, the film's amazing because it's just
him like walking to the shops going,
"Fat what?" And he goes, "No, I I And
he's just getting the [ __ ] beaten out of
him. And he can't explain what it is.
So, he's constantly getting into fights.
There's a scene where he's walking his
dog, and this is real. So, he's walking
his dog um across the um about to go
across a busy road. And he loves this
dog.
But, there's a car coming, and he goes,
"Walk forwards now." And then he has to
grab the dog.
>> Oh. He's Tourette's.
>> Wow.
>> He's fighting against himself.
>> Yeah, he's fighting against himself.
It's so good. It's such a good film.
>> Oh, where can I see it?
>> Um I sw- If you just search I Swear.
>> [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you.
>> So,
>> I missed it. [ __ ] you.
>> From living with Chris, the man's a bit
of a boomer. Yeah. And I'll often like
give him a recommendation, and I'll go
he'll go, "Where can I see it?" And if
it's not on Netflix, he can't get it.
>> No. No. No.
>> it. Just figure
>> That's not fair. That's not That's not
fair, and that's not true. But, my
response is, "What can I watch it on?"
>> And I'll just say, "Google it."
>> Right, but that's a fair I I feel like
this is a little bit like
here's a a fantastic new restaurant.
Okay, what street's it on? I just want a
little bit more information. And the
fact that you want me, knowing what you
know, which is that you might understand
what streaming service it's on.
Saying to me that I have to go and
Google it, when you could just say it's
on Netflix. And me and Tim, this side of
the table, we just expect a little bit
more decorum. You know what I mean?
>> This is why I This is why I want AGI to
come, because it gives me meaning.
>> this up.
>> All right. All right. All right.
>> Wait, going back to the photo thing.
>> Do you guys know what people are
utilizing um ChatGPT and whatnot for
when they upload photos of themselves?
Looks maxing.
>> Oh, no.
>> Well, that's interesting. Do you know
Cobbs? Have you heard of that?
>> What So, what
>> a set of photos. There's these apps on
the App Store, too, now that kind of do
a wrapper experience. But, the idea is
that effectively, you know, you upload
photos to to Gemini or ChatGPT, and then
it suggests things that you might want
to do, whether it's your cheekbones with
this type of manner. Medical procedure,
you know, jaw surgery, um having a
symmetric face, even things like
hairstyle make a huge difference or
beard or whatever.
>> that section.
>> And roughly it's it's really interesting
that people are doing this because um
>> Obviously there's this huge craze of
looks maxing and whatnot and um
turns out huge use case for AI.
>> Dude, check out Cove. I've just sent
this to you, Jared.
>> Co- QOVES?
>> Yeah, so look at this. So this is glow
up without surgery. Get your
personalized facial analysis and
transformation plan based on scientific
studies. So I know the science team
behind it. The science team behind this
are absolutely sick. So look at the guy
on the right and then like you should be
able to do a transition. You see how you
can get the middle of the guy's face.
You should be able to click on it. Yeah,
exactly. So move it all the way to the
right.
>> And you was worried about meaning, Tim.
Look at this.
>> And then go to the left.
>> Wow.
Got it. So it's like
drive-by shooting suspect to soap opera
star.
>> Exactly.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh get more career opportunities, boost
your self-confidence, make a stronger
first impression, preview your dating
life, enhance your quality of life. So
basically it's
>> Go go All right, let me see the one on
the left again.
>> Go to the Yeah, swing it.
>> She's really attractive.
>> I feel like that's one of those like
Sandra Bullock Oh, she takes off the
glasses and walks out and she goes from
>> Yeah, you're like, wait, she just put
her hair up.
>> That's all she did. She's shaped her
face a bit. Do it again, Jared.
>> Show me. And not that quick.
>> down. Go really slow.
>> [ __ ] hell.
Uh what's happening?
>> That's slow slow slow.
>> You know, this is just IRL FaceTune,
right? Um
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So if you There's like FaceTune has all
of the
>> FaceTune I don't Do you guys know what
FaceTune is? I learned about it from
Freya India a couple of weeks ago.
>> One of the
most It It came out very a long time
ago. Israeli company.
And uh
And it's it's just a
easy way of manipulating the way that
your face looks and you know, slims your
jawline or whatever.
>> Wait, what do you mean easy way?
>> Like as in on a photo, not not actually.
So so turns out every Instagrammer or
before they post anytime people post
photos, um they typically went through
the same workflows and Facetune was kind
of a um
you know, just a bunch of tools that you
can utilize. And now with AI,
>> Oh, yeah.
>> um holy crap. I mean, the possibilities
are quite limitless. And so, you know,
it can regenerate that photo. And so,
there at the bottom, there are all these
like AI filters. And um
people use them so so so much. And often
I I heard the story where uh one of my
friends met somebody
from Instagram and, you know, they had a
they had all these photos and
uh she looked nothing like herself
>> Well, let me give you this from Freya.
Um when
>> From Freya?
>> Freya India is a a girl writer who just
released a book called Girls.
>> The Nordic god?
>> Uh she does look a little bit like that.
Blonde hair. She's like a the
What would What's the female equivalent
of the Ubermensch?
Uberfreund or whatever it's called.
>> Uberfreund?
>> Yeah. Uh she's that. Um Yeah. She uh she
was telling me that when uh groups of
young girls are out and they're taking
photos at a party, everybody fights to
be the one whose phone is used to have
the photo taken because that means that
they're the one that's in charge of the
Facetuning.
>> Yep.
>> So, that they can work on themselves a
little bit more in time.
>> I know. I know. I know. I know.
>> It's actually a huge social faux pas if
you
post a picture where you look good and
the other person doesn't.
>> That is stitching you That is stitching
your mate up a little bit.
>> You know, there's a famous uh English
footballer called Ashley Cole. Can you
just search Ashley Cole's squad photo?
And uh this How long's this? 10 years?
>> It's uh yeah, it was when he was at
Roma. So, it's And he's retired. Do you
want to tell the story?
>> Well, it's just a a squad photo. It's
It's one of those I know it when I see
it ideas, I guess. Um but it's just a
football photo of the entire Roma team.
And Ashley Cole, who's this Brit, is
like trying to mingle with these
Italians. He's like on the top right.
Yeah, top left. Cuz he's just awkwardly
leaning on the outside. So, then he gets
memed everywhere.
>> This became one of the biggest memes in
the world for a long time. It's a team
that looks like they're so close to the
headline. Scroll down a little bit.
You know what? Ashley Cole appears to be
an outcast in an incredibly awkward Roma
team picture. The amount of times me and
Chris have been out with like a group of
guys and I'll do the Ashley Cole like He
just moves off to one side, ruins it.
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