The Hard Truth About “Working on the Relationship” - Matthew Hussey
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Matthew Hussey argues that a significant portion of relationship struggles stems from fundamental incompatibility rather than issues that can be easily fixed or worked on through effort. He illustrates this with examples such as differing sleep schedules, noting that while minor differences might be navigated if the rest of the relationship is strong, persistent friction often arises because neither partner gets what they want when compromising occurs. Instead of forcing a mismatched dynamic to work, Hussey suggests it is far easier and more beneficial for individuals to seek partners who naturally complement their specific needs; someone who loves late nights should find another night owl, while someone seeking homebody comfort should look for that same trait in a partner rather than trying to change themselves or the other person. The discussion extends to emotional vulnerability, where Hussey critiques men who claim they have "opened up" only to be rejected by their partners as being incompatible with those specific traits. He posits that if a woman is not receptive to a man's emotions and truthfulness, she was never truly suited for him in the first place. Conversely, he warns against settling into an emotional barren wasteland where no one talks about feelings just because it feels safe or masculine; instead, individuals should seek partners who view vulnerability as a springboard for personal growth and success outside of the relationship. This highlights that trying to navigate deep incompatibilities often leads people down dead ends rather than fostering genuine connection. Hussey further explores how painful individual experiences can lead people into hyperpolarized echo chambers online where they conflate their specific "walls" with universal laws of human nature. He uses the metaphor of staring at a wall, referencing Mario Andretti's advice that drivers must look ahead to steer correctly, arguing that when we fixate on our own trauma or preferences—such as fearing vulnerability—we actively search for others who share those same limitations and validate them collectively. This process transforms personal pain into perceived global truths, causing people to ignore the vast diversity of human experience available around them. He illustrates this with an example from Instagram where users overwhelmingly agreed that men without children live a carefree life, reinforcing their own biases rather than challenging them with alternative realities. To counteract these limiting beliefs, Hussey emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with people who do not share one's specific "walls" or defensive frames of reference. He recounts an anecdote about his boxing trainer in London who instinctively scanned a nice bar for threats due to his rough upbringing, only to be confused by a lawyer friend who saw no danger at all. Similarly, he cites Shohei Ohtani's reaction after accidentally hitting a teammate with a pitch; instead of escalating into violence like many would expect, Ohtani calmly accepted responsibility and stopped the potential fight, demonstrating that one can transcend their natural defensive programming when exposed to different perspectives. Ultimately, Hussey concludes that while it is understandable why people gravitate toward simple arguments or echo chambers as coping mechanisms for past hurts, these behaviors are dangerous because they prevent individuals from realizing there is no single reality. He encourages listeners to step back from the "walls" they have built and seek out those who operate differently, noting that true growth happens when we engage with people whose realities do not match our own. By avoiding the trap of generalizing individual experiences into sweeping laws about men or women, individuals can break free from self-fulfilling prophecies and find partners who truly hold them in their wholeness rather than forcing incompatible dynamics to survive.
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So much of what is being
navigated in relationships is just a
straight up lack of compatibility. I had
this idea that it's far easier to date
somebody who compensates for our
shortcomings than it is to fix them.
>> So if you are the sort of person that
likes to go to bed at 9:00 p.m. and your
partner wants to go out clubbing three
nights a week, there is going to be
tension there and you're going to have
to navigate it. Now, maybe the rest of
the relationship is so good that this
slightly major thing of a different
[ __ ] sleeping pattern can be
navigated through because everything
else is great. But for the most part,
there's going to be other stuff that
comes along for the ride that you also
don't agree on. Now, if you have to
compromise your sleep two nights a week
and they have to not go out one night a
week, both of you aren't getting the
thing that you want, right? It is much
there is somebody out there who would
love to party three nights a week. allow
them to find them. There is someone that
would adore going to bed with you at
9:00 p.m. every single night and wants
that homebody life. Go and find them.
And so much of the uh the issues where
people are trying to navigate this stuff
is a lack of compatibility. Same thing
goes for this. I think a lot of the guys
who say, "I opened up to my partner.
Okay, so you feelings. That's good.
Congratulations. You faced the scary
thing, right? As a man, you face the
scary thing and my partner was turned
off. They weren't for you. that partner
was not the person who can hold you in
your wholeness, right? In your truth, in
your full expression of who you are,
allow them to go and find someone who is
never going to open up their emotions to
them. They don't need to worry about
those icks. They're never going to get
that ick because homeboy is never going
to [ __ ] talk about it. Enjoy that.
Enjoy this emotionless barren wasteland
of no one ever talking about their
emotions. And maybe that's the guy that
if you put him on a [ __ ] poster, you
can say he's masculine and he's going to
stand up. It's like, great, you can date
him. I'm going to go find someone who
melts at the prospect of me being able
to feel my feelings and then allows them
to be a springboard for me to go and
[ __ ] destroy in the world outside.
Like that amount of compatibility
and so much of like the memes that exist
online are basically people saying, "I
dated someone whose demeanor and
disposition did not match mine and my
preference, and look at how everything
broke apart. allow me to create a broad
rule of human nature overall from what
is actually just you mixing vinegar and
baking soda together.
>> Yeah. And that that what you just
described is I think how people get more
and more into these uh hyperpolarized
echo chambers online because they
they've had an experience. It's been a
very painful experience. They then go in
search of other people who have had that
experience and they hear more of it. And
I'm not saying communities where people
talk together about what they've been
through aren't powerful because they
are. But what it can be instead is this,
you know, I talk I talk in the in in my
book about this idea of the wall, like
staring at the wall. you know, the the
very famous self-development trope, you
know, the race car driver Mario Andretti
said, you know, his advice for race car
driving, don't stare at the wall. Your
cars go, your car goes where your eyes
go. And
but that I don't think people take that
concept far enough in terms of what it
really means.
We all have our wall, right? Let's say
it's people can't hand people women
don't like when I'm vulnerable, right?
That's my wall. I was vulnerable with
someone once and they rip my heart out.
And so now I go in search of other
people who have that wall as well. And
all of us together stand there and point
at the wall and we keep talking about
the wall and we find more evidence for
the wall everywhere we can find it. We
go out in search for it. Anytime we hear
a story about it, we say, "Here, look.
this has happened again.
>> And the wall becomes the world. It's no
longer a wall.
>> It's a law.
>> It's life. Yeah. And that's the that's
the truly dangerous part. And that's
like we have to stand back from
anytime I hear women generalizing about
men, men generalizing about women, and
I'm like be very very careful of the the
little worlds that you get into.
>> Yeah. turning an individual experience
into a globalized law.
>> I had there's a there's a um the other
day I was on Instagram, my algorithm fed
me a guy, one of those little skit
videos where it was a guy saying me
doing XYZ because I don't have kids.
>> Mhm.
>> So, it was like me waking up at 8 8:00
a.m. because I don't have me eating
pizza at night because me checking my
bank account that's so high because I
don't have kids. It was like all of that
and there were thousands of comments on
this and I was like waiting for I was
like, "Oh, and people are people are
going to be like tearing this guy to
shreds in the comments about like how
this is such a one-dimensional view and
blah blah blah." No, thousands of
comments from people just being like,
"Yeah, me too. I'm, you know, I I don't
have to do anything on my weekends and
>> I'm facing the wall along with you."
>> Yeah. But in it was like just like
everyone who had that wall apparently
the algorithm found them and [laughter]
all of
>> it picked it picked you wrong. You're
ready to pop at the moment
>> for sure. Yeah. in the next couple of
weeks. Like, but it's a funny thing for
me as someone who
was, you know, is having my first child
with my wife who's like watching this
and going, and by the way, looking at it
and going, I know that there was a me
that was scared of commitment and having
kids and all of that, that really would
have related to the things in this
video. Well, the the problem that you
have with these is that there is a
cohort of men out there for whom that is
the life that they want and probably is
the life that they should lead. You're
like, you'd suck as a dad and you
shouldn't make yourself one. Please
continue to do that. Right? It's the
same as it's the same as uh women that
say like all men are trash or whatever.
Like if you make these sweeping
statements, one of the wonderful sort of
ways to uh neutralize uh the the the
conversation and also it makes you feel
pretty good too. It's like men are trash
and like I'm I'm done with men. It's
like okay feel free and you allow
somebody to take the route that they
want. The same thing with that guy. It's
like I'm so happy living his life. It's
like dude great for you. You'd have been
an awful dad anyway. [snorts]
It's like okay well which one is it big
boy? Like which one do you want? Do you
want to be able to have the um
counterculture
[ __ ] black sheep hetradox cynicism
points or do you want to be able to say
that you could have been this would have
been good at this but have chosen the
other one I I I don't think that these
two worlds are compatible and allowing
someone to like there's enough rope dude
crack on
>> yeah well we're not good at I don't we
don't like the complexity of of life and
so we do kind of gravitate towards very
simple like argue. I remember when I was
single, I had I remember watching
Guardians of the Galaxy, the first one,
and seeing, you know, Chris Plat Pratt
playing Star-Lord, and it became like
this emotional button for me for why
being single was awesome.
>> Okay. Cuz this renegade
>> Yeah. I was like I was like, "Yeah, I'm
Star-Lord." [laughter]
So stupid. But like you know how these
funny things get in our head and they
make sense to we're like yeah like that
that's how how great is it and I get it
like I really understand it. It makes a
lot of sense to me why we do those
things. Now that I'm having a child I'm
looking at like Finding Nemo
>> and going like oh that movie is now like
got a whole new meaning to me and how
exciting to so like I get it. I get why
we it's a kind of survival mechanism.
But it's also a coping mechanism, right,
that that we go to these places to to
lean into our choices or to to our, you
know, lack of choices. And and so I get
it, but it's a very dangerous we're
we're living in a a really dangerous
time
belief wise where your algorithm will
really pull you into these little worlds
of people who all have the same wall
>> that you do and celebrate it together.
And it and you in some ways those are
exactly the kind of people sometimes
that you need to be able to stand back
from because the people when I want to
go somewhere different than where I've
been. The people I want to be around are
people who don't have my wall at all.
>> They're like they don't they're not they
don't even they're not even aware of my
wall. If I explained my wall to them,
they'd be like,
>> "What?
>> Wait, really? You've had that experience
or you feel that way or whatever?" It's
like not real to them. And I I had a
boxing trainer who he
he told me a story of going into this
was in London and he went into like he
he was training a like a lawyer
and this lawyer took a shine to him and
was like come out for a drink one night
and you know he took him somewhere like
really nice
and he takes this rough and ready boxing
coach from the east end of London into
the west end and they go out to this
like really beautiful place in Soho
and he's at the bar and my boxing
trainer, the guy that I know is
explaining the story to me. He said, "I
was standing at the bar and all of a
sudden this guy that my client who's
just taken me out for a drink looks at
me and says, "What's wrong with you?"
And my friend went, "What do you mean?"
He goes, "What's wrong with you? You
look like you're about to fight
someone." Right. And it he said what he
realized in that moment was that he had
walked into this bar
immediately like was sort of scanning
for threats and was looking for like,
you know, who's the person making bad
eye contact with me who's got mean
intentions towards me. And by the way,
this boxing trainer is a sweetheart.
>> He's a sweet inside. He's a softy. You
get him talking about emotions. He'll
talk. But something happened. He went
into that bar and he started looking for
the wall because he's a guy that's grown
up around a in a rough time, rough
childhood. He's had some things. He's
like looking for that threat. And this
guy, this lawyer who's just boxing for
fun is like looking at him going, "I've
brought you to a nice place. We're
having a nice drink at the bar."
>> And you're standing there like you're
about to fight someone. Like what's
going on with you?
>> But the there's so much
getting around someone. Did you see that
clip of Shoi Otani? Um
when it was like a three months ago or
something. By the way, I'm going to say
this as someone who knows nothing about
baseball. So for all you baseball,
>> I know everything about baseball, so
it's fine.
>> Okay, good. You can correct me along the
way. Forgive me for for butchering the
rules of baseball. But there's there's I
I assume there is some scenario where
throwing
uh at the batsman
>> actually makes sense in terms of like
actually launching the ball at their
body.
>> Okay.
>> Actually makes sense for some if you
want to walk them.
>> It's a foul ball. Yeah.
>> So the pitcher just launches it Otani
>> and he turns around and it cracks him on
the back.
And I'm only watching this this clip
with the commentators, but there's this
really interesting moment where like all
of his teammates like they've already
got one leg over the wall of the dugout
where they're like about to rush the
field and start fighting someone and he
just stands them down. He just like in
this very classy way, he just is like,
"No, no, no.
>> I got it."
>> And the whole team stands down. And the
commentators are just like this. I
remember it because I thought it was
such a like a beautiful moment. He goes,
"This is he" He was like, "This is why
this guy is going to be a legend. He he
transcends the sport." Like, "This is
something that you know, a normal thing.
The team would rush out and his
teammates just stand down because he's
like, "I'm fine. He makes nothing of
it." And there was a guy I read the
comments and there was a guy in the
comments who was like I'm a hotthead
and I this is exactly the kind of
situation that I would have turned into
something and he said watching this is
like an example of a different path.
This has taught me so much. And
that it what you have is a guy who's he
knows what his wall is, but he's
watching another guy who doesn't have
that wall,
>> who's got no he hasn't got that thing
that says someone just wronged me. Let
me turn this into a fight.
It's all good. There's like you have to
get around people who don't even like
they don't even buy into your frame of
reference cuz those are the people that
are going to take you into new worlds.
Those are the people that make you
realize life is not there's no one
reality.
There's so many different realities.
And get around people who by being
around them and by thinking like
understanding the way they think and the
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