The First Third-Party App Store Arrives on Google Play - DTNS 5328

[music] This is the daily tech news for Monday, August 10th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you important context, and help each other understand. >> Today, the first third party app store returns to Google Play, and Dolby's Grave avoids destruction. [laughter] >> Ah, Harry Potter fans, you know what to say. I'm Tom Mered >> and I'm Rob Dunwood. >> Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. [music] >> Google Play added Venmo as a payment option on Monday, but it also added a much more significant new option. Of course, Apptoid Games has become the first third-party app store available through the Google Play Store since Google decided to go along with the court ruling and allow third party app stores. Again, if you search for Apttoid Games, you have to know how to spell it. A P T O I D E. Uh, and you will then be directed to the third-p partyy app store page where you can download Apttoid games after reading the following warning. Third party app stores operate under their own security and privacy practices. Google Play enforces its policies on these stores for your protection, but we do not review every app in these stores. Downloads, payments, and updates will not be managed by Google Play. Uh that is very carefully uh selected words so they they don't violate the court order uh and and get Epic to to drag them back in front of a judge, but to try to give the impression that like, hey, you're on your own, which is true. Uh you're on your own. Google's not going to help you if you have a problem with these third party app stores. Nor should they. Uh, the number one app in Apptoid Games when I looked this morning was Huawei Health, [laughter] which made me think there are a lot of Huawei users out there. Uh, possibly even in China that are uh using Android in a way that may or may not be entirely improved. Um, but the rest of them were games. I downloaded Clash of Kings, which was the number two on the charts. Uh, and and Rob, it kind of it installed like like an app does there. Nothing unusual about how the the app store itself works. >> Um, we we knew this was coming. If I'm honest, I'm not terribly upset with the with the with the warning that Google is giving. >> It's fine. Yeah, >> it's fine. Um, you know, they're to, you know, their toes are close to the line. They're not stepping over it, >> but they're saying, "Hey, if you download apps from this and there's a payment issue or there's anything like that that happens, don't come to us. We have nothing to do with it." >> It's not us. We didn't do that. And a lot of people wouldn't realize that, right? Cuz I downloaded it through the Play Store. So, >> right. So, so they're, you know, they're going to they're not going to avoid anything. They're just letting you know upfront that if you complain in that way, they're going to say, "There's nothing we can do for you." Um, I downloaded the app. It kind of reminds me of like the the Samsung you know, the Samsung store. Oh, yeah. On Samsung devices or even back in the day when you could download like the the Amazon app store and put it on here and you had to sideloadad that. >> But it just kind of reminds me of that. What's different here is that you are not sideloading any of these or in this case you're not sideloading Apptoid. It is part of the Google Play. It's listed in Google Play. So, you just go to Google Play and install it like you would any other application and then start using it. So, that is a bit different. Um, I wonder how many people will ultimately end up using it. Um, if if the games there are significantly less expensive than they would be on maybe the on Google Play, then maybe quite a few will, but uh I think that remains to be seen. I want to see how many people actually go and pick up the Apptoid Game Store because that the name of that store does not hold the weight of of of Google Play uh or Epic for that matter. So, >> they they they need to get an exclusive, I would guess. Uh, I assume Epic Store is going to be here, too. I'm curious what other thirdparty app stores we get. Uh, when when Apple allowed third party app stores in Europe, there were, you know, a few, uh, that have shown up, and they don't make the news anymore. Uh, but they're quietly available if you're in the European Union and you want to grab them. Um, and so Apptoid is just the first. I assume it will not be the last. uh if it were to get some exclusive games, I think that would be a bigger deal for it than than just price differences. Uh or if there's some other advantage there. Uh the other the thing about it is like like you said, like you used to have to sideloadad these even when Google did allow it and now it's a little easier, but you still have to know to look for them. Uh when you when I searched for Apptoid Games, I got a little banner pop up that said, "Oh, if you're looking for the Apptoid Game Store, you need to go to the third party game store page." And I'm like, "Great." Uh I there's a link. I will go there. How would I find the third party game store page? Well, you'd have to search for the third party game store page. At least as far as I know, I did not find it listed anywhere in the Google Play app. So, you kind of have to know these are there to go find them. Um, my gut tells me that the biggest search engine in the world that is run by Google is going to do nothing to help you find anything that is not Google branded in this case. And like, if I'm being honest, I don't know that they need to do that. If you want to use a third party app store, you probably know that you want to use the third party app store. Type the name of the third party app store in, go download the third party app store, and then you're cooking with gas. uh to ask Google to say we're going to advertise our competitor and make hey you guys really should know that you can not only get apps from us but you can get them from people who directly compete against us maybe is a bit much to uh you know to ask them to do they're they're doing what the law is telling them that they need to do allow third parties to install app stores on your on your play store. >> Yeah. And don't get in the way. Uh it's easy enough to find. I'm guessing companies like Apptoid Games are hoping they can get get in front of people with some influencer links and some advertisements and then link you directly into Google Play where it will say like, "Oh, you need to go to the third party app store page or maybe even link directly to the third party app store page uh and get you in that way. But yeah, the this once I found it, which wasn't that hard because I knew the name, uh it was it was easy to install and easy to download a game. So, you know, it's it is the typical Android experience and and a new one for people who weren't around in the old days. >> And here's the thing, I spelled it wrong. I actually spelled it with two Ps and still found it. >> I still found it. >> Okay. Good for Google search. >> So, Google is not hiding it from you. They're just not advertising it to you. >> Excellent. That's good. >> Yeah. So, so it's and and you said this before, what's going to make this thing pop is that they got to get a top tier game to be on it and exclusive to it at least for the first 90 days of the availability or something. >> Exactly. >> Well, DTS is made possible by you, the listener, thanks to Steggy01, Jeffrey Zils, Alo aka Adam L, and Philip Les. [music] There is more to talk about today. Let's get to the briefs. Meta released a new openweight model called Muse Glimmer designed to run always on a gentic task on a personal computer with a single graphics card. Meta also plans to release the weights for Muse Spark 1.2, its most advanced model. Along with the launch, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg wrote a post calling for more openweight models to better compete with Chinese AI companies. He wrote in a post, quote, "The notion AI is so dangerous that the only safe path is an extreme concentration of power seems inherently problematic." End quote. He called for allowing developers to distill each other's models and said independent directors on Meta's board will participate in safety criteria for Meta models. Zukera also said Meta will use $1 billion to invest in communities where it has built data centers. Yeah, I mean the knee-jerk reaction to this is like, oh, uh, Mark Zuckerberg is behind, so he's he's letting us use models for free and trying to drag down the the winners, open AAI and anthropic. Uh, and that's probably partially true. Uh, I'm not going to lie. Uh, I think I think there's a little more to it than that. I think Muse Glimmer uh, does look very interesting in that it is a downloadable model. You do need a powerful GPU. I could not find specs on it in the post. I assume if you go to download it, it'll tell you what kind of GPU you need. Uh, and I did not go do that, but but hey, it's it's one it's meant to run on a on a laptop just like an open claw or something like that. So, Meta doing the things it needs to do to get in the game. Uh, it has changed its mind on Muse Spark. It originally released it without open weights. Now, it says, "Oh, we're all about open weights, so we're going to release it with open weights." And that is something you do and it's a smart thing to do when you're behind in the race uh is is acquire more users by making it easy for them to use your thing and then you can get them to pay for support if they're in an enterprise area which is where you make the most money anyway. Uh this long and kind of rambly post from Zuckerberg uh was a little odd, but honestly for Mark Zuckerberg not that odd. Uh, and it it definitely shows that Meta believes that it can can make progress in this AI race and it's going to stay in it. >> It's definitely a little odd, but Mark Zuckerberg is a little odd. And and and here's the thing, what else are they going to do? They don't have a closed system that is at the top of the list. They've got a closed system, but it's not it's not up there with the, you know, with the Giants. So, we've got to figure out what we can do. And I'm talking, you know, as as Mic or as as as as Facebook or as Meta, they've got to do something because they can't just seed the the AI race. They they've got to figure something out. So, if our if our if our closed models are not winning the race, let's see if our open models can or let's open up some models and see what they can do. So, I think it is one of those situations where both things are true. Yes, he's saying this because they're behind, but yes, he's saying this because they've got other stuff that they hope won't be. So, I think that uh you know it's it's it's it's a fair statement that's coming from Zuckerberg, >> you know, and eventually if they were to to get at the at the front of the class or at least close to it, uh I don't think it would take long for Meta to rationalize. Well, in this case though, for safety, we can't release the open weights like that's that's going to happen when it's to their advantage. Uh but in the meantime, you get an openweight model you can use for free uh muse Glimmer uh and play around with it. So, if you are the kind of person that likes to to mess with this stuff, uh that that's a pretty pretty nice enticement to be like, "Hey, try out the meta model. See what you think of it." >> I think also uh the open models, >> they've been dominated by models out of China. >> This one is not. This one is one that is that is homegrown you if you if you want to look at it that way. So I think that there will be some interest in it simply because it is created here in the United States and not necessarily in a country that we are somewhat adver not somewhat that we are you know fairly adversarial with that is something that I think a lot of folks are going to uh you know going to look at and I would be remiss Zuckerberg is definitely hoping that that's going to be the case as well. >> Yeah I mean he threw a lot of stuff against the wall in that post. He he was talking about a billion dollars like you said uh to to try to make people uh like him when he brings a data center to their town. Uh he he's talking about all kind of policy things uh to prevent regulatory capture because that's advantageous to Meta right now because they they don't have the the lead position. There's a lot in there. Um but but the significant thing is is is the downloads today >> and it's like we we say these numbers a billion dollars like that's a rounding. It is not. A billion dollars is an immense amount of money. For meta, it's not a lot. And the reason that is being said is because the data centers in places where people live are not a hot topic right now. People don't want them there. So, uh, so, so Meta along with other companies, but Meta right now, they need to do whatever they can do. And if putting more money into the communities where you're putting your data centers helps you as a company, you've you've got to do that because I think that the tide is turning on just throwing these things up wherever you want to throw them. No, there's a lot of money. >> You're absolutely pushing back on it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it all depends on how you spend a billion dollars. Uh, a billion dollars spent in a dozen places this year, that's a lot of money. A billion dollars spent in several hundred places over the next 10 years, then then it's not as much money. So, uh, you got to you got to look at the details on those things. >> And also, what kind is a commitment? Is a commitment a contract? you know, we could commit to a lot of things and commit to not committing to the things we committed to. >> Um, you know, what does a contract look like? So, we've got to look at that as well. >> According to an investigation by the Telegraph, uh, cameras on the K3 scout surveillance drones used by the UK military were found to transmit some information to China. That is a hair on fire headline built to make you click, built to make you respond on social media before you've even read the rest of the story. Well, let's tell you the rest of the story. The Telegraph described it as heartbeat communications, which I think is misleading because it it it conjures up like, oh, the heartbeat of the pilot or something. No. Uh, basically, it sent data to an IP address in China that confirmed the camera was on and functioning. That's it. uh spokesman from the Ministry of Defense said a thorough investigation found no evidence of mod data uh Ministry of Defense data or systems being accessed, compromised or transmitted externally. Now, I'm not trying to say there's no risk to you know even like a confirmation that the drone is on being sent. There is uh but it's not there were people in the press talking about when it's taking pictures of our servicemen and sending them to China. It's like, no, it's not definitely not doing that. It was sending a confirmation that the camera was on. Uh K3 Scout drones were purchased from Kraken Technology Group. That's a British supplier. Uh they just either overlooked or didn't realize that the camera components were made by a Chinese company. And the transmissions were found as part of a routine audit. So this to me sounds like systems working properly. Like, hey, we didn't know this was doing it. We found it. We turned it off. Uh, the Royal Marines have in fact removed all internet connectivity from the camera part of those drones in the meantime. Um, this is a, "Ooh, that's not good. We should turn that off," which they did kind of story to me, Rob. Not a like, oh my gosh, it was a horrible breach. Uh, and and heads need to roll. >> Um, let's just say that the clickbait worked. It uh, it made people read. It made a lot of people read an article that they probably ordinarily wouldn't have read, which was the, you know, that was the purpose of it. Yeah, >> I I do get this. Um, the ministry probably should have saw this before they actually, you know, put the stuff into production. They should have known that it was there. So, it puts a little egg on our face that here's a thing that is actually happening that it doesn't look like anyone was hiding it at all. It's like, hey, this, you know, you you just didn't read, you know, this particular part of the manual or you just weren't aware that this was doing it from from your testing. That seems like what this is. I don't think there's anything nefarious going on here. Um, but it does, at least on the defense ministry, it it does kind of put a little bit of egg on there that you actually are using a system um from, you know, that is, you know, developed in another country that you didn't know that this thing was happening. That's the bigger story to me. It's not that the fact that it's happening because it wasn't something that was hidden. It wasn't like they found some, you know, some code that was just doing some nefarious stuff. It's like, no, this is the way that the thing works. So, uh, I I think this is more of a egg on the face on the defense ministry than anything nefarious coming from a company that's based in just happens to be based in China. >> I mean, honestly, the next time, uh, Kraken Technologies is bidding to to supply the UK military, I think there needs to be some more intense questioning about the components that they're using in that. Uh, I entirely agree with you on that. there there is some egg and there is some face uh and there's multiple faces that have come in contact with that egg. Uh I do think that there is yeah I I don't want to minimize that like if you were using a drone in a in an active military situation uh and China was your adversary and they could know the drone was on uh even if they didn't know anything else beyond that. Uh that's useful intel right like those drones are on that's useful intel. So, so I don't want to say that there was no risk to this. Uh there's also the the slippery slope of like, well, if they got in and did that, could they have turned on other stuff? Maybe, maybe not. Uh but, you know, you you don't even want to go there. You want to you want to get rid of that possibility. Uh and you don't want those kind of components to be in there in the future. >> Absolutely. >> Dell's MacBook Neo competitor, the XPS 13, is out and the reviews are in. It weighs 1 kg or 2.2 lbs and is a/ inch thick. It also has good battery life and 120 Hz 1440p display. Tom's guides Arif backa says that he's returned to Windows from a MacBook Pro because of the XPS 13, but in gadget points out that it starts with only 8 GB of RAM and found that the Intel Core 5320 chip a little slow. The Dell XPS starts the Dell XPS 13 starts at $700 or 900 with 16 gig of RAM. So, here's the thing. I have the the MacBook Neo. It's $500 and for $500, it is a ridiculously good laptop. It does not slow down when I'm opening up tabs. I open up 10, 12, 15 tabs. I don't have a problem with it. All of the apps that I use on this run well. I even have installed on the MacBook Neo, I've installed uh you um you know, some video editing software. Now, if I'm honest, if I'm doing a 4K render, that's where it slows down. But if I run web-based uh video editing stuff, that stuff is all happening in the cloud. I don't have any issue with it. It's also $500 device. Now the XPS 13 that's exactly comparable to it. It starts at $700 and where I would get a little pause at $700 if it's slow and needs more RAM and it makes you move to $900. I don't know that I would spend $900 on the MacBook Neo. So would I want to spend $900 on a Dell XPS? That that is a question I think needs to get answered. Feels slow to have the RAM. That's a problem. >> MacBook Neo raised the price since you bought it. So it's it's now $700 as well. So, you're you're you're looking at apples to apples on the price for the Open, but you do have a little more powerful thing going on with the Neo versus versus the XPS 13. I thought Tom's Guide uh thought on this was interesting is that they didn't think they needed the any more than 8 GB of RAM unless you were going to be using it for a more powerful uh purpose like video editing, which you shouldn't be buying a MacBook Neo necessarily for anyway. But if you were using the browser, 8 GB of RAM seemed like enough for RF Backus. And Gadget on the other hand said, "No, 8 GB of RAM is constrictive." Like you you you do run into the limits. >> I was buying laptops in 2017 2018 uh with 16 gigs. In 2019, I went to 32. Um now, these are much higherend PCs than where than where these are. eight gigs on Windows when Microsoft was telling you that for their PCs less than two years ago, you really need to go to 16. Um, and saying, "Well, now you now you don't." So, two things could be true. Maybe you don't, >> but I I have a concern. I I I want to see more testing. I want to see more than two. One says that 8 gigs is not enough and the processor is slow. Uh, someone else is saying, "No, it seems like it's it's good enough. Give me a couple more so we can have uh, you know, some other ideas there." for sure. Um because like if if you're starting at $700 and that's that's where the MacBook Neo now is. Um if you need to move to $900 to make it do what the $700 Neo can do. I I'll say the same thing. I don't know that I would be willing to spend 900 on a Neo. I'd want to just spend $1,100 and go right to a MacBook Air. So or or 13 whatever I would get an Air for. I probably wouldn't be buying the brand newest one. Um but I I would want to go to the the higherend M processor. So that that is just a concern for me and I'm a Windows guy. I I am I am doing this this show right now from a Dell XPS. I am absolutely a fan of Dell XPS. This is a device that I was interested in initially when I heard about it. Now for because of where the pricing is. I don't know that it's the same value. I might just say let me just hang on to what I have a little bit longer and then when I do get something I'll just get another big boy laptop. >> Yeah. At least at least Dell's making progress with the design. certainly won uh in gadget and Tom's guide uh both over for that. But like you said, there's a CNET's got interview got reviews out there, a lot of different reviews out there. Does seem like there's a little bit of of a difference in opinion on the RAM, mostly on use case because if you don't need it, then maybe that is not as big of a deal as it used to be. And gosh, a lot of people given Ramageddon are are wanting to be able to say, well, maybe I don't need it. Maybe I can just do everything in the cloud and and maybe, you know, the better memory management of Chrome and Edge these days is enough uh to mean I'm not going to run into a slow browser and I can just do things in my browser. So, >> you know, I I I have started doing a lot of stuff in the browser that I normally would have done on, you know, on the physically on the PC simply because I don't need the RAM and it just runs way better there. It's just quick. I'm just I'm, you know, like we're using StreamYard here. In order to do what we're doing u in this browser with local software, we've got to run something like OBS or in your case, you can run something like eCam Live. These are not lightweight applications. The these are the type of applications that will absolutely use all the resources that you give to it uh that your uh that your laptop or your PC or your or your Mac makes available to it. So, um, there is there is a, you know, there there's a reason why there are so many apps that are running in the cloud now that are are just a little bit better than running on local PCs or local Macs because you don't have the the processor and and the horsepower to actually do it. >> Uh, finally, OpenAI said late on Friday that it had paused some internal activities on a model in development it called Astra after it found out it could not rule out that the model had reached a critical security threshold. It had not ruled out, didn't say it reached it, said it might reach it and we don't want it to reach it. Open AI defines critical as the capability to autonomously identify and exploit zeroday exploits or execute complex attacks against a highly secure target without being specifically prompted to do so. In other words, it could go rogue the way we've heard so many agents going rogue. OpenAI has now implemented stricter security controls, additional monitoring, and isolated testing environments. My biggest question on this is why did OpenAI release this late on Friday? Uh this is this is not something they wanted to be the top story. In fact, when I looked at the stories today, this had already fallen off the main page uh for most companies out there because they released it just late enough on Friday. Uh it it feels like something they needed to make sure that they publicly said maybe for stockholder reasons, but they didn't want it to become a big story. >> Um if it would have been released earlier in the day or earlier in the week, it could have been the genie out is out of the bottle type of story, which this isn't necessarily the case. They're saying that it could do that maybe, which is why we're shutting this down. But Tom, the bigger question to me is that is is that where we're moving to? are are we moving to that genie getting out of the bottle uh moment with, you know, with these models that are just they're they're doing things uh very well that we didn't intend for them to do. So, uh like I I understand why OpenAI would do this last minute on Friday because like, hey, if people don't pick this up, maybe it'll die down over the weekend. >> Yeah, there's a a lot of unpredictable behavior in LLMs and always has been. uh it's just that it wasn't as capable and wasn't pointed in these directions as often. That that's my theory on why we're seeing this more often. And it's something that just like the the kinds of hallucinations which are not as common as they used to be, uh they figured out how how to deal with them for the most part, they're going to have to deal with this. They're going to have to deal with this kind of unexpected behavior. And just like with hallucinations, still happens sometimes. Nothing in these models is determinative. So you can't you can only get things as close to zero as possible. You can't eliminate them. Uh and that's that's going to cause a lot of uncertainty with people, a lot of unsettling behavior. Uh well folks, we talked about this story, the Astro story, uh with David Spark on Friday on our live stream. Uh David had just stepped off the plane from Black Hat uh and sat down with us live on our YouTube channel, youtube.com/dailytechnewshow, and this story had just come out. So we chatted about it. Uh, you got to catch this live streams. Rob Rob's with me on Thursday with Sarah Lane and Roger Chang kind of recapping the stories of the week. Uh, catch us live. Become a subscriber at youtube.com/daily tech news show. [music] Let's take a look at the quick headlines. These are those little things that make you look smart. Spotify is testing a 15-second skip button on the podcast interface for some paid users when the app is in the foreground. Podcast appers are not pleased. And I'm wondering how is this different than the other 15-second skip button, but people seem to be really upset about this one. >> Yeah, apparently it doesn't skip the Spotify sold ads. That might be one of the reasons. >> Yeah, I can see why they're upset. >> Yeah. So, so maybe that maybe that might have something to do with that. Uh, Aliens Fire Team Elite has taken down its Nintendo Switch servers, which is a problem because that game was cloud only. Uh, and if you don't have the server in the cloud, you can't play the game in the cloud. Uh, also, players have not been offered a refund for the $30 they paid for the game now that they can't play the game anymore. And just to rub salt in the wound, you can still buy the game on PC, Xbox, and PlayStation because it's not a cloud game there. It's a download. Uh, and so you can download it and play it. So, this isn't even about physical versus digital. This is about cloud. Yeah. The first look at the Minimal Phone 2 is out with a querty keyboard, OLED display replacing the e- in display in the original version, an aluminum body, 5G support, and a headphone jack. No price or release date quite yet. >> Oh, yeah. you I I know you have a love for the keyboard on the phone. >> I have a love for the headphone jack. >> And the headphone jack there. >> The headphone jack is what I like. A 100 copies of Super Mario Brothers and Duck Hunt cartridges that were made 2 years after the last known run of the games. At least what we thought were the last run of the games. Turns out they weren't. Uh we found these. Oh, I didn't find them. People found them in a box in Wisha, Wisconsin. Games apparently had been sent to a metal recovery service to be melted down and have their metal pulled out, but somebody wisely never destroyed them. And now they might be worth millions. >> Mike get tells me it's worth way more than the metal ever would have been. >> I think you're right. >> A link between the UK national power grid and Ireland has been diverted as a cable was planned to run through a beach in Pimrookshshire, Wales, where the death of Dobby in Harry Potter movies was filmed. fans have maintained a memorial on the site. >> Yeah, apparently they had to tell people to stop leaving socks at the site years ago. Uh and then there there was a video of them going to run the cable through here and a bunch of fans uh started getting on the cell phone and calling the people responsible and they're like, "Okay, fine. We'll we'll move it closer to the Bronze Age relics over there instead of the Dobby memorial." >> So, here's the thing. I am a little older than probably the ideal age. I think that was more like millennials maybe 10 15 years younger than me for for uh for Harry Potter. But man, the folks who love that movie love that movie. >> They love that movie. Trend Force estimates that component costs are going to drive up the cost of producing the next iPhone. Everybody's calling it the iPhone 18 uh by 38%. It's going to be the iPhone 27 though, right? Uh Apple is expected to announce the next iPhone in September, at which time we'll find out how much of that cost it's willing to eat. 40 uh 40% 38%. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, >> that's a big jump. >> Smart Analytics Global says Chinese companies made up 97% of global shipments of humanoid robots in the first half of this year. About 19,100 units were shipped. Shanghai's Adubot paused un passed unitry for the top spot with 44% of the market. >> I know 19,000 is not that many units, but 97% like that is a lockold [laughter] on an industry. Uh there's room for competition. That's I guess that's what I >> There's a lot of room for compet a lot. They they own the market. There's a ton of room for competition. >> An Australian man named Andrew asked his openclaw agent to book him a spot in his gym's morning class. And it not only did that, but found a vulnerability that let it book Andrew months in advance of what would normally be allowed by the website. And then gleefully told him like, "Hey, I found this vulnerability. So, I booked you like months in advance. You're you're in that morning class as long as you want to be. Uh, after that, Andrew said, "Well, is there any way to move me up on the wait list for the morning class that's coming up that I'm not in yet?" And the agent went and said, "Hey, I found a weakness in the API that lets me kick someone off the wait list." So, I removed the person on the top spot. You're now third instead of fourth. Uh, which time Andrew contacted the gym to let them know because he couldn't undo it. un unintended consequences of what these things can do. Yeah, maybe that's why companies are pulling them off pull them offline. >> Apple has published a guide for Chinese users to connect Alibaba's Quinn models to Siri, similar to how Siri can connect to OpenAI's chat GPT, >> which it still can. Uh, and finally, China hitting a shortage of quality Chinese data. About 1.3% of the worldwide web data is Chinese, 49% is English. So Beijing's national data in administration has unveiled a plan to build national AI data sets by 2028. Well folks, we win we end every episode of DDS and share perspectives. Today a person who wishes to remain anonymous has some insight to another area of the backlash against smart glasses. >> Yeah, I think that the nature of the comment will will make it clear why this person wants to remain anonymous. Our anonymous friend writes, "I was just out at one of our national laboratories touring spaces. For some of these spaces, we needed to leave electronics locked up outside the security fence." I bring this up because we were specifically asked by the very serious armed security guards if we had smart glasses. It was the first time I have ever been asked this, and it got me thinking that if I was wearing a pair, I would have been excluded from doing my work. Very interesting how this might unfold in the future. I'll have to put it on my checklist when planning out personnel working on these sensitive areas. Do you have smart glasses? If so, do you have dumb glasses when we can't enter a site, building, or room with them? Uh, it reminds me of, you know, all those stories when camera phones first became widespread and people having to get phones without cameras for secure areas. So Tom, there was a time in my career where I worked in some very very high-end highsecurity places, places where they may have done things like developed like nextgen fighter planes. >> Mhm. >> And they checked people who had hearing aids. Take it off. Let us check it. Let let's make sure we know what this thing is doing. And then they watch you put it back on as they walk you through uh you know the room that you need to get to. So smart glasses are it's it's not even something I would have ever thought about trying to take in a place like that. But the thing that we've got to pay attention to is that people will start wearing smart glasses as their glasses. So I think that if you're working in, you know, in in high security places, you just kind of have to know that you need to have extra pair of glasses if your smart glasses are your primary readers because you're not getting into high security places with smart glasses on. They like I said, they they stopped people with hearing aids uh back in the day. So, they're they're definitely going to start cameras on your face. >> I I mean, it it tells me smart glasses is a viable product category when the security guards are now asking about them. It means that they're they're common enough uh that that that people got to ask about them. >> And please don't accidentally say the wrong thing. That will not end well for you at all, >> which is no. What? Say no when you have have them on. say no when you have them on because your livelihood probably changes because you'll never be access granted access to that base anyway. >> Well, folks, uh if you got something you're thinking about, uh send it along to us feedback at daily techneow.com. Thanks to our anonymous friend for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along daily technew. You listening right now. You keep us in business, folks. Become a patron right now. It's easy. Lots of new folks are doing it. patreon.com/dtns. [music] The DTNS family of podcasts helping each other understand. >> Diamond Club hopes you have enjoyed this broker. [laughter]