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The podcast opens with a provocative discussion on people creating AI replicas of their ex-partners using previous chat logs, photos, and personal memories to simulate an ongoing relationship. One host describes this practice as a way to cope without rebounding or seeking new partners, effectively keeping the emotional connection alive in a digital purgatory where one never officially breaks up with the former lover. However, another voice immediately challenges the healthiness of such arrangements, arguing that while it might seem like a harmless coping mechanism initially, it traps individuals in an unhealthy loop rather than facilitating genuine healing or moving forward. The conversation quickly shifts to the ethical and legal implications of training these AI models on private data obtained from text messages and photos. The hosts debate whether one truly owns their digital likeness within conversational scripts and question if sharing such intimate details with a third-party model constitutes privacy violations, even when kept private between two people. This tension is highlighted by an example where the ex-girlfriend's version of the AI seems to possess knowledge that could be used against someone, raising concerns about how these models might inadvertently reveal sensitive information or manipulate users into believing they are still in a relationship with their past partners. The dialogue then pivots from digital ethics to physical surveillance and crime prevention, drawing parallels between the omnipresence of cameras like Ring doorbells and the decline of elusive serial killers seen decades ago. The speakers note that modern technology ensures criminals get caught quickly due to widespread camera coverage at tolls, street corners, and homes, contrasting this with past eras where figures like BTK or Bundy could evade capture for years by simply moving states. This segment serves as a broader commentary on how pervasive monitoring has changed the landscape of criminal justice, making it difficult for individuals to commit crimes without immediate forensic evidence surfacing through ubiquitous recording devices. Interspersed within these serious topics is an advertisement break promoting Athletic Brewing Company's non-alcoholic beers, where one host recounts his own struggles with online dating and casual relationships that often evolve into deeper emotional entanglements despite initial disclaimers about keeping things fluid. He admits to trying a "Dumbbell's Arena" approach by being upfront about seeing multiple people but ultimately failing when the web of connections became too complex for partners to handle, leading them to kick him out once he revealed his true dating status. The hosts briefly touch on whether this behavior indicates an alcohol problem before transitioning back into promotional content that encourages listeners to try their non-alcoholic brews without facing hangovers or regret. Ultimately, the episode concludes by weaving together these disparate threads of artificial intelligence ethics, surveillance technology, and personal relationship struggles into a chaotic but engaging narrative about modern life's complexities. The hosts express skepticism regarding the viability of AI exes as healthy coping mechanisms while acknowledging their appeal for those unable to let go of past relationships. As they wrap up with promotional codes and final remarks on fitness brewing products, the discussion leaves listeners pondering the fine line between technological innovation used for comfort versus potential psychological harm in an increasingly monitored world.
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There's people making
AI versions of their exes. Have you seen
this?
>> What? What?
>> you
>> Oh man, I could have fun with that.
>> Unbelievable. So,
you load in all of the previous chats
that you've had with your ex-girlfriend
or ex-boyfriend
and all of the photos and then you train
the AI to create an exact replica of
them. And they know where you've been on
holiday and your little in-jokes and the
cute names that you call each other and
all of your memories and then basically
it's like you're still in a relationship
with them, like you never broke up.
>> That seems like a healthy thing to do.
>> Oh, I thought I could just Sorry, you're
saying to to sell to indulge in this.
Oh, I I thought you meant to put it out
to the internet.
>> Oh, that you could date my ex.
Date my ex.
>> This was my experience. You can see how
this went.
Yeah. Yeah.
>> Hey, look, I know that you think that I
might have been in the wrong here, but
you can interact with my ex for 5
minutes and look at the gaslighting.
>> Yeah. Oh, I wonder if you could just
feed it all in like who was right.
>> Well, this is This is on
What is this? Open AI. I played around
with Open AI's playground.
>> We're in Reddit.
>> We're really down in the gutter.
>> Create your own chatbot and plugged in
scripts of text messages and basically
like she's saying it's a
way of coping to mitigate some damage
done to other people or even my ex
because I direct any desire of reaching
back out or having to rebound to
chatting with the AI. I don't have a sex
drive except for wanting my ex to touch
me again. So, there's the other issue.
This has been satisfying my emotional
needs. She does go a little bit further
down. She's like, "I have been training
it to be a little bit more like him."
I'm like, "This just feels like
like you're you're trapped in purgatory
with this relationship."
>> This could really be a disaster.
>> It could be a [ __ ] nightmare. But the
other thing is like
is this a little Are you Do you own your
own likeness over text message? Is this
a little bit like I don't know. I guess
you can replay the news to your ex and
you
>> There's definite laws about what I mean
she can put certain things out there
perhaps but I don't think you can
>> she's not making it public right? It's
just like it's just private yeah.
>> Hm.
>> But I feel like this is ultimate like
she says
>> I love being your little spoon. Like I'm
being a little spoon.
>> X
>> And then it goes X.
>> That's my favorite cuddling position
too. I love being able to wrap my arms
around you.
>> healthy. There's no way that's healthy.
There's no way.
>> I I get the part where like the line of
like this is going to help me from
reaching out when I shouldn't.
>> I love that.
>> No it's not No it's not my favorite.
It's not good.
>> It's for sure
>> It's not good at
>> Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hold
on a second. We're in the data now.
>> Me.
>> I always love being your little spoon.
Okay, I could imagine a woman saying
that. I'm assuming that's a woman. And
then him X assuming it's a him. That's
my favorite cuddling position too. I
love being Chris did you really write
this?
>> I didn't write this.
Why would you blame me? Is this because
of the re-taught you're still bitter
about the re-taught?
>> A little bit a little bit.
>> That's you're that's a ex-girlfriend
building almost like a nuclear weapon
text against you to be like I figured a
lot of things out with you and I figured
out how I can fix you.
Read what this version of you does and
do this.
>> Yeah.
>> No it's
[ __ ] nuts that's all.
>> It's a training data.
>> Wait do you ever think about you know
how you're talking about cameras
everywhere? Do you think that with the
amount of cameras out today that's why
we don't have serial killers really
anymore? Like you know what I mean? Cuz
like
>> Now they just do mass shootings.
>> Yeah.
>> What you say they all get is like very
economical and they get it all at once
yeah.
>> Forensics but also cameras are
everywhere.
>> Dude ring doorbells we just we got one
not long ago and you don't it's crystal
clear audio. So you I'll get like a
fight with my wife walk outside and be
like [ __ ] this BUT THEN I'M
OH [ __ ] I'M RIGHT ON CAMERA BEING LIKE
YOU OH YOU'RE [ __ ] up man.
>> She's going to build that into the
script just watch out.
>> Yeah I need to grow up [ __ ] you and walk
out and be like
>> That's when you feed the ring doorbell
camera into your ex AI.
>> No they're everywhere everywhere they're
on like every street. There's I think
there's more cameras in America than
China if you include private ring
doorbells and all that stuff.
>> Cuz like I watch these crime things all
the time and it's like somebody commits
a crime and they're always just like
either ring or like at a you know like
when you go through a toll and it's like
somebody gets like they always get
caught so much quicker with technology.
So you don't have like all the you know
we growing up you had like all these
crazy killer BTK and Bundy and all these
guys and like I feel like you don't
there's never those stories anymore.
>> Like those but they get caught so quick.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> Because of the communication as well. So
I was watching a
worst ex ever on on Netflix and there
was that Wade Wilson the Deadpool
killer. This dude that was in a
relationship with like five four or five
women at once.
>> Tight.
>> Um
he
>> Do not recommend.
What?
Uh-huh.
>> He um
He killed He killed one of them and then
just went on a spree. Like killed one
and got a woman from off the street that
was walking to after dropping her kids
off at school. Asked her for something,
locked her in the car, strangled her to
death.
>> Jesus.
>> Then left her in a field and then was
like just ready to go and do it again
and again and again. But like you you
just go on a run and then you get caught
and then it's done.
>> Right.
>> Like there used to be like 10 years, 20
years you can't find somebody, you know?
>> Yeah. Or you could just move and like
your family couldn't find you. You just
go to another state.
>> But you guys like you you thought of it.
>> I know. I mean you should be able to do
that.
>> The fuel station.
>> The petrol station.
>> While we find that I I will say I before
I got married I tried that where I was
doing online dating so you're like we're
just dating it's casual. There's like
something weird about online dating.
Then I was dating like four or five
women and I remember being like just be
honest man. I would like tell them the
deal and they'd be like [ __ ] you get out
of here and I'd be like well [ __ ] I'm
never telling you this again.
I'll keep this to myself for now.
>> What do you mean tell them the deal?
What do you mean?
>> Well like you're going on online dates
and it's just like very fluid and you're
like you're not like boyfriend
girlfriend. We're just on dates and you
know, it's like they can't really tell
you not to date other people. And then
I'd be I remember like so but then you
come up with this like web of like
relationships that's like not really
that deep, but it's like it like by the
minute gets deeper and deeper and as
soon as you're like, "Hey, here's I'm
actually dating other people." They're
like, "What the fuck?" And you're like,
"I don't even know you like this. What
we like first we met
>> How long would you like be into it
before you would
>> A month.
>> A month, okay.
>> maybe, I don't know.
>> You've gone out several times.
>> Yeah, I start feeling myself and I'm
like, "Here's the deal, babe." And
they're like,
"Like get out of my house." And I'm
like, "All right, my bad."
>> So I tried the Dumbbell's Arena approach
for dating. Failed.
>> Doesn't work.
>> Jared,
have you ever considered that you might
have a drinking problem?
>> I don't consider a lot, Chris.
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Athletic Brewing Co. last night.
>> But they're non-alcoholic.
>> And that's not a problem?
>> Sorry, man. I I just kept chugging
waiting for the regret to creep in.
Never happened.
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