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The Huberman Lab podcast episode explores the complex biology and effects of cannabis, distinguishing between its primary psychoactive compounds: THC (Delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol), CBD (cannabidiol), and CBN (cannabinol). While THC is primarily responsible for altered perception and mood changes, CBD offers significant benefits for pain management and anxiety without causing a "high." The discussion highlights that the cannabis plant contains over 70 psychoactive compounds and more than 400 biologically active constituents. A critical factor in determining outcomes is not just the strain type—such as sativa versus indica—but specifically the ratio of THC to CBD, which dictates whether an individual experiences therapeutic relief or adverse effects like increased anxiety. Furthermore, the frequency of use plays a pivotal role; daily or multiple-times-per-day consumption yields different physiological results compared to occasional use, particularly regarding appetite regulation via CB1 receptors in both the brain and spinal cord. A central theme of the episode is the relationship between cannabis, creativity, and dopamine levels. The speaker defines creativity as involving two distinct cognitive modes: divergent thinking (brainstorming novel ideas) and convergent thinking (synthesizing those ideas into a specific outcome). Dopamine facilitates this process in an inverted U-shaped curve; moderate elevation supports divergent thinking, while very high or low levels impair it. Research cited by Dr. Emily LeFlore suggests that the link between cannabis use and enhanced creativity is largely spurious rather than causal. Instead of directly altering neural circuits to boost creativity, chronic users often possess a personality trait known as "openness to experience," which predisposes them both to using cannabis and to exhibiting higher creative output when sober. Consequently, cannabis may facilitate an open-minded state conducive to divergent thinking by lowering anxiety, but it does not inherently grant super-creative abilities in non-users or alter the fundamental capacity for creativity in a direct pharmacological sense. The most significant health warnings focus on age at initiation and potency of use. The developing brain remains plastic until approximately 25 years old, making individuals aged 14 to 25 uniquely vulnerable. Cannabis use during adolescence accelerates the thinning of gray matter in the prefrontal cortex, a region essential for executive function, emotional regulation, planning, and impulse control. This accelerated maturation process is detrimental regardless of delivery method (vaping, smoking, or edibles) but correlates strongly with heavy usage defined as more than twice per week. A systematic review published in *The Lancet Psychiatry* analyzing over 4,000 studies found that chronic use during these formative years quadruples the risk of developing psychosis later in life, particularly for those with a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Additionally, higher THC potency directly increases this probability, as modern engineered strains often contain significantly elevated levels of psychoactive compounds compared to historical varieties. The episode also addresses specific populations and conditions where cannabis use carries distinct risks or benefits. For pregnant women and lactating mothers, the 15% usage rate is flagged as dangerous due to effects on the developing fetal brain. Conversely, for adults over 25 with occasional use in a safe legal context, potential therapeutic applications include managing chemotherapy-induced nausea, reducing intraocular pressure for glaucoma patients, and alleviating chronic pain through spinal cord signaling mechanisms. However, the speaker emphasizes that comparing cannabis safety to alcohol is biologically invalid; while legalization has increased access, it does not equate to safety for developing brains. Recovery from adolescent damage involves quitting use immediately and adopting lifestyle protocols such as cardiovascular exercise, adequate sleep, and proper nutrition to support endothelial cell health and potentially reverse some prefrontal cortical thinning, though time lost cannot be fully regained without intervention. Ultimately, the discussion concludes that while cannabis has legitimate medicinal uses for specific ailments in adults, its impact on mental health is heavily dependent on age of onset, frequency of use, genetic background, and individual personality traits like openness to experience.
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where we discuss science and
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[Music]
life I'm Andrew huberman and I'm a
professor of neurobiology and
Opthalmology at Stanford school of
medicine today we are discussing
cannabis also referred to as marijuana
cannabis includes many different
compounds that have profound impact on
the brain and body so while many of you
have probably heard of THC there are
also compounds in cannabis so such as
CBD and of course there are different
types or strains of cannabis including
sativa strains and indicia strains and
hybrid strains and believe it or not
nowadays there is also an entire
literature meaning a scientific and
medicinal literature about type one type
two and type three strains I'll explain
what all of that is and how they work
I'll talk about some of the medicinal
applications of different strains of
cannabis and combinations of cannabis
strains as well as some of the potential
health hazards of cannabis use I want to
emphasize that any discussion about
cannabis has to be framed within the
context that the legality of cannabis
varies tremendously depending on where
you are in the world so depending on
which country you're in and even which
state you're in or which area within a
country possessing and using and
certainly selling cannabis can be either
highly illegal or entirely legal or
decriminalized or largely overlooked you
of course are obligated to know what
those local laws are for you where you
live and where you travel with that said
today's discussion really will include a
full picture as to where cannabis and
the various and even very specific
compounds within cannabis can be
extremely useful in the treatment of
some ailments and where certain
compounds in cannabis can be extremely
dangerous for certain individuals to use
in particular individuals that have
pre-existing genetic propensity for
psychosis that theme is going to come up
again and again but we are also going to
talk about the role of cannabis in
anxiety in depression both positive and
negative effects we'll talk about sex
differences in terms of women versus men
and how they react differently to
cannabis and I would be entirely remiss
if I didn't include a conversation about
cannabis meaning THC CBD hybrid strains
Etc in creativity and different modes of
thinking because as many of you probably
know or at least have heard about
cannabis can impact the way that we
think the types of memory systems we can
access and what's called convergent and
Divergent thinking which is one way of
conceptualizing what is commonly
referred to as creativity so today's
discussion is going to include a lot of
information but I promise to make it
clear and accessible to all of you
regardless of whether or not you have a
background in biology or not and today's
discussion will also be quite nuanced
you'll find me routinely reading
directly from specific research papers
something that of course we always do on
this podcast but today I'm really going
to dig into some of the finer points of
the methodology in papers and some of
the statistics that were used and the
specific populations of people that were
studied because as it turns out there
are instances that we will discuss in
which the use of cannabis can be
immensely beneficial to one group and
yet can be entirely detrimental to
another group even at equivalent dosages
and depending on a number of different
factors so we will discuss what those
factors are just to give you a brief
overview of the kind of structure I'm
going to put on today's episode we will
review of course cannabis and its
various forms I'll talk about some of
the biology but we are going to really
drill into how dosage that is the
concentration of THC relative to CBD
impacts whether or not cannabis is going
to have one effect or another we will
also talk about the frequency of use
daily use multiple times per day use
weekly use or monthly or occasional use
we will also talk about different
professions and how some people may have
a little bit more leeway in terms of
whether or not they decide to use
cannabis or any of its various component
chemical constituents that is CBD or THC
Etc and for other professions it might
be entirely inappropriate because of the
particular kinds of cognitive tasks
those professions demand we will also
talk about genetic predisposition again
sex differences hormone effects and I
will also touch on what I think is the
most important variable in determining
whether or not cannabis is right or
wrong for you and that is your age at
which you are considering starting or
continuing use or ceasing use what I can
assure you is that by the end of today's
podcast you will have a quite thorough
understanding of cannabis how it works
what it does what its potential benefits
can be what its potential hazards are
and whether or not it's right for you
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huberman let's talk about cannabis and
when we refer to cannabis we are indeed
referring to marijuana or the marijuana
plant now cannabis plants come in
different strains or different varieties
and those different strains are indeed
different genetic strains so just as
animals and humans have different
genetic backgrounds and they can be
crossed to one another to yield further
genetic variation in The Offspring
plants can be hybridized to one another
in various ways through grafting or
through the use of different types of
seed combinations Etc in order to
generate different strains there are
also naturally occurring differences in
the strains of plants and the cannabis
plant is no exception so for instance in
the context of a discussion about
cannabis and its medicinal uses and
recreational uses
we need to distinguish between the
sativa variety the Inda
variety a variety called ruderalis
that's not often discussed and hybrids
of sativa indicia and ruderalis before
diving into the different strains of
cannabis and how they impact the brain
and body both similarly and differently
I want to emphasize that the cannabis
plant contains a number of different
psychoactive compounds now the most
powerful of those compounds is T THC the
technical name for it is Delta 9
tetrahydro
canaban but THC as I'll refer to it is
just one of the psychoactive and
biologically active compounds within
cannabis
plants there's also
CBD which is technically referred to as
canabidol and canabidol
CBD is known to be used for things like
pain management anxiety management and
other medicinal purposes we will talk
about the efficacy of CBD for those
purposes as well as some of believe it
or not some of the dangers of CBD
depending on where it's sourced and the
dosage
Etc so we've got THC CBD and also CBN or
canaban CBN is less often discussed
you're going to hear a lot less about
CBN containing products out there CBN
containing medicines but it is relevant
to today's discussion so it will come up
a bit now I will be sure to provide more
specificity to what I'm about to say but
very broadly speaking THC is largely
responsible for the psychoactive effects
of cannabis that is the changes in mood
the changes in bodily State and
sensation Etc whereas CBD and to some
extent CBN have profound effects on the
brain and body but they don't tend to
give people the sensation of altered
perception altered mood Etc some people
might say they are not the component of
cannabis that quote unquote gets you
high although today we will really drill
into what the high itself represents in
terms of chemical systems in the brain
and body and what we will soon learn is
that what we think of as being high
actually includes a number of different
changes in the brain and body some of
which can be best explained by CBD not
by THC which runs counter to what most
people out there know and believe so
broadly speaking we have THC CB
and CBN but I want to point out that the
cannabis plant has over 70 70 70
different psychoactive compounds many of
which still have not been studied in
isolation and in detail so there's a big
future of research for cannabis and for
THC and THC related psychoactive
compounds as well as for CBD and CBN
today we're mainly going to focus on THC
and CBD as I mentioned before I should
also point out that the cannabis plant
has over 400 biologically active
compounds so these are biologically
active compounds that may or may not
have psychoactive properties that may or
may not be useful for pain relief Etc
again there is a vast landscape for
exploration of the cannabis plant and of
hemp for what they include that could be
beneficial to us or detrimental to us so
again a lot more work to do today we're
going to really try and stay on target
with what we already know and where
there are certain exciting Mysteries or
int inging mysteries about what we ought
to explore more I will certainly
highlight
those let's go back to the different
strains of the cannabis plant sativa
indicia and ruderalis and explore how
each of those differentially impacts the
brain and body because therein I think
we can start to learn a lot about this
incredible plant that is the cannabis
plant and whether or not you are a user
of cannabis or whether or not you are
entirely opposed to cannabis use
understanding how cannabis works in the
brain and body itself is absolutely
fascinating and can teach you a lot
about how your brain and body work at a
basic level and can tell you a lot about
how your brain and body will react to
different life events and how your mood
is established and stabilized and how
your appetite is established and
stabilized and so on so we have the
three major strains of cannabis sativa
indicia and ruderalis and for sake of
today's conversation we can pretty much
cross off ruderalis it's not often
consumed and comp components of
ruderalis are not often consumed for
medicinal or recreational
purposes let's focus on sativa and
indicia people will consume the sativa
variety of cannabis either by edible or
by smoking cannabis or they will consume
the Inda variety of cannabis Again by
edible or by smoking cannabis or
sometimes they will take it in a
transdermal form or sublingual form
they're bunch of different ways to get
the Cannabis into the body but there's a
clear distinction between sativa and
Inda that actually shows up first in the
structure of the plant at their extremes
meaning in a pure strain of sativa it
tends to be a taller plant a longer
stock believe it or not and actually the
length of the leaves is quite a bit
longer whereas the indicia plant tends
to be more short and stout and for those
fanad out there I'm sure you know a lot
of the other specific features of sativa
versus Inda but already what we're
talking about is the same plant cannabis
with two very different morphologies or
shapes you might say well why is this
interesting or important to you know how
it affects me or affects other people
for medicinal recreational purposes Well
turns out that even though they are the
same plant these two different genetic
varieties because of the way that they
grow and the way they capture sunlight
and the way believe it or not that the
different plants within that strain
interact with one another because
believe it or not plants are interacting
with one another they actually bring
different elements of the psychoactive
compounds to different components within
the leaves and the so-called
buds the takeaway is that when consumed
and when I say consumed I want to be
very clear I don't necessarily just mean
oral consumption or eating Cannabis
sativa by edible I also mean smoking it
and that could be you know people will
just like with tobacco the way that they
bring the psychoactive components into
their bloodstream and into their brain
and body is to essentially heat the
dried leaves of the cannabis plant then
the heat liberates some of the
psychoactive components that when
inhaled into the lungs because the lungs
include a lot of vasculature a lot of
basically blood vessels and capillaries
that the psychoactive components are
actually directly absorbed from the
lungs into the bloodstream and then can
cross into the bloodstream and
permeate throughout the body and cross
the so-called bloodb brain barrier so in
other words burning the plant liberates
the smoke that contains the psychoactive
compounds and those are inhaled into the
lungs and then get into the brain and
body and act on the brain and body and
the major effect of sativa varieties are
to create a high if you will and I'm
putting this in air quotes for those of
you that are listening but to also act
as a stimulant the sativa varieties tend
to make people feel kind of invigorated
somewhat alert it doesn't tend to be as
much of a sedative as some of the other
varieties some people report heightened
sense of focus or heightened sense of
creativity we'll talk a little bit later
on as to whether or not they actually
are achieving heighten levels of focus
and creativity or whether or not they
just perceive themselves to have
heighten levels of focus and creativity
the sativo varieties tend to make people
feel a little bit less susceptible to
pain and noxious stimuli which are
basically stimuli that you don't like so
the sativa varieties are often
prescribed or are used in the
recreational context for pain management
and relief basically the sativa variety
is known to include a sort of head
biased effect so uh here we're talking
about subjective effects and of course
these will vary from one individual to
the next some people will smoke Cannabis
sativa or ingest Cannabis sativa
orally and will feel an entirely
different array of effects but most
people the majority of people experience
a sort of head centered high alertness
focus and a sense that they're more
creative contrast that with the Inda
varieties of cannabis and when people
smoke or eat or ingest indicia varieties
the psychoactive components of indica
and again this is pure indicia so not
hybridized with sativa at all but just
pure Inda tend to lead to more
full-bodied effects people report
feeling more complete full body
relaxation more of a stive effect Inda
cannabis is often prescribed Andor used
recreationally in order to achieve a
state of sleep or to help relieve
anxiety so less of a stimulant effect
and we will talk about why literally the
underlying neural circuits that lead to
the sativa variety causing more of a
elevated mood and a head high if you
will and the indicia variety is being
more full body relaxation one of the
ways to remember the distinction between
the effects of Cannabis sativa and
cannabis indicia was relayed to me by a
friend who actually was a chronic
meaning every day all day uh consumer of
marijuana he basically smoked marijuana
for 20 years before quitting about four
or five years ago and he said that uh
Inda is often referred to as indic couch
meaning laidback in the couch um and
that can help you remember that the
indicia varieties of cannabis do tend to
be more sedative in their effects okay
so there's sativa and there's indicia
and then now there are hybrid strains so
marijuana growers and people who
specialize in creating novel varieties
of the cannabis plant again I'm using
the words cannabis and marijuana more or
less interchangeably here they are very
good at creating new strains of plant
that might be 25% sativa and 75% indicia
or vice versa or 50/50 or 9010
essentially what's happening nowadays is
that through plant biology plant
genetics I should say Growers are
getting quite efficient at creating a
variety of different strains of the
marijuana plant that give rise to very
nuanced and distinct effects on brain
and body in fact so much so that there's
now a new nomenclature a new language
emerging around cannabis and the
development of Novel strains of cannabis
for medicinal and or recreational
purposes and while this might sound a
little bit medical or a little bit
clinical to some people believe it or
not this is is the nomenclature that's
now typically used people still refer to
the sativa indicia and hybrid strains
but there's now also a description of
so-called type one type two and type
three strains for any given sativa
indicia or hybrid strain okay so just to
put this clearly in your mind you've got
sativa varieties that is pure sativa
varieties you have Inda varieties again
pure Inda and then you have hybrid
varieties and beneath each those you
have typee one type two and type three
strains of indicia sativa or hybrid
varieties what are type one type two and
type three well type one type two and
type three strains are strains that have
varying amounts or ratios of THC to
CBD so for instance type one strain so
for instance you could have a pure
sativa type one or a type 1 piure sativa
or a type 1
indicia those are going to have the
greatest amount of THC relative to CBD
and I really want to emphasize this
understanding the ratio of THC to CBD
can help explain a lot or even predict a
lot about how a given strain of cannabis
will impact somebody for instance
because THC is largely responsible for
the typical psychoactive components of
cannabis so what I mean here is if
somebody's ingesting sativa and it
routinely makes them uh feel more
energized elevates their mood it gives
them a heightened sense of creativity if
that's what they experience and they're
taking a type one version of that that
means that it's quite rich in THC and
very little
CBD however if they were to take a type
one version of sativa and it feels far
too strong like too much energy or they
felt like they were too much in their
head nowadays there are strains of
sativa that have been genetically
engineered and I don't mean by an
engineer tinkering away with uh you know
Gene Engineering in a kind of crisper M
creating mutants but literally by
hybridizing crossing different plants to
one another okay creating in a in a
natural context the same way plants in
the in the outside world would sometimes
hybridize to one
another creating a variety that's
perhaps type two which is going to have
less THC and more CB or a Type 3 which
is going to be very high CBD and very
little THC and the same is also true for
the indicia varieties so I want to make
sure that everyone understands this
because it becomes very important for
understanding the biology of cannabis
and predicting positive versus negative
effects of Cannabis sativa has this kind
of stimulant like effect and tends to be
more of a head high if you will indicia
tends to be more full body than lead to
more IND the couch as I referred to it
before um pun intended
deep relaxation reduce insomnia Etc now
within each of those sativa indicia you
have type 1 type two and type three and
that has everything to do with how much
THC which is the dominant psychoactive
compound versus CBD which has other
effects mainly on the body but not so
much on the brain and modes of thinking
and mood Etc how much THC versus CBD is
present and again type one is THC
dominant type two of equal ratios if you
will of THC and CBD and type 3 tend to
be high CBD okay so already we've got
some categorization here that hopefully
isn't overwhelming to you but this turns
out to be extremely important if you
want to understand how cannabis works
and predict the effects of cannabis I'd
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surprisingly we're going to set aside
cannabis we're going to take what we
know about sativa indicia type 1 type
two type 3 CBD Etc we're just going to
set that aside for a moment why would we
do that well we have to ask ourselves
why would any of these plants why would
any of these compounds THC CBD sativa
Indica Etc why would any of that have
any effect on us at
all and this discussion that we're about
to have very much resembles the
discussion that we had on a previous
episode about nicotine because as many
of you know nicotine is a commonly used
substance in fact if we were to look at
the three most commonly used drugs
alcohol would be at the top of the list
many billions of people regularly use
alcohol or occasionally use alcohol many
billions of people also use nicotine
it's the second most consumed drug so
more than one billion and probably
closer to two billion people consume
nicotine and then the third most
consumed drug is cannabis in one form or
another and many of you are probably
shouting what about caffeine what about
caffeine well in the context of drugs
and in particular addictive drugs
caffeine doesn't quite rise to the list
but if we were to look
at caffeine and included in that list
caffeine would be above all of those
okay but the most commonly used drugs
are alcohol second after that is
nicotine and then
cannabis nicotine as some of you may
know if you listened to the episode on
nicotine but even if you didn't nicotine
comes from the tobacco plant and there
are few other plants that include
nicotine and typically it's brought into
the brain and body by smoking tobacco
dipping tobacco snuffing tobacco or
vaping
nicotine nicotine exists in the outside
world in these plants the tobacco plants
but the reason it has an effect on the
body is that there are so-called
nicotinic receptors in the body now
those nicotinic receptors were named
after nicotine the compound but they
existed in the brain and body not
because of the existence of a tobacco
plant but because there are other
chemical in the body that naturally
occur namely acetylcholine that bind the
nicotine
receptor those chemicals such as
acetylcholine that bind the nicotinic
receptor in your brain and body create
an enhanced sense of focus etc etc but
nicotine from tobacco binds that same
receptor but with much greater affinity
and therefore also creates a state of
focus but a much greater one than we can
achieve without nicotine okay so you can
see the nicotine episode if you want to
learn more about
that in a very similar
way all of our brains and bodies from
the time that we are conceived believe
it or not very shortly after conception
if we want to be accurate very early
conception when you were in the womb and
still now if you're listening to this
you have what are called canabo
receptors because you also have
endogenous cannabinoids what do we mean
by that you have receptors which are
like little parking spots that are
present on cells in your brain and body
and what we call a Lian which is
basically just a chemical that's
released parks in that receptor and
causes a number of different biological
effects cannabis contains compounds that
also bind to those receptors but here I
want to make a really clear distinction
we have what are called endogenous lians
those it just mean chemicals from within
us that we make naturally even if we
never go near the cannabis plant or any
other source of cannabis we have
chemicals that are created in us that
Park in those receptors and cause
biological effects on mood on perception
on the immune system on Hunger Etc again
without ever going anywhere near
cannabis we have these endogenous canabo
so endogenous canabo are floating around
in us or I should say they are released
in Us in particular ways bind to these
receptors and cause changes in mood
appetite Etc they have many different
effects on the brain and body we will
talk about those but just like with
nicotine there are substances in the
outside world in this case cannabis
contains these substances so things like
THC and like CBD that when ingested by
smoking or vaping or by ingesting
edibles also will park in those same
receptors The canabo receptors and lead
to biological effects now it's a little
bit misleading because we call them
canabo receptors as as if they were
there to bind cannabis or just like we
call the nicotine receptors nicotinic
receptors it makes it seem as if they
were there in order to bind nicotine
from tobacco but that's not the way our
brains and bodies evolved our brains and
bodies evolved for these receptors to
make use of chemicals that exist within
us called again endogenous chemicals and
those endogenous chemicals lead to
certain effects as I mentioned before
the key thing here if you haven't
understood any anything I've set up
until now please understand this the key
thing is that THC and CBD and the other
components of cannabis bind to those
receptors those endogenous cannabinoid
receptors the ones that we naturally
make with much greater affinity and
exert a vastly greater potency and
effect on mood and perception Etc than
do our endogenous
canabo another analogy that one could
take in order to understand in this
would be hormones like testosterone and
estrogen many people I would say all
people make testosterone and estrogen to
varying degrees it's going to depend on
whether or not you're male female your
age whether or not you've gone through
puberty etc etc but let's just say
testosterone for example there's
testosterone circulating in your body
that's true if you're male or female and
there are receptors called Androgen
receptors we could even call them
testosterone
receptors and the testosterone binds
those receptors and has effects on cells
it causes hair growth changes the voice
it can affect libido it affects all
sorts of things in the brain and body
depending on which organ and tissue
you're talking about but of course there
are people that take synthetic
testosterone or derivatives of
testosterone and some of those
derivatives for instance in the
bodybuilding community and the sports
Community they will take things like
dianab ball these are modified versions
of of testosterone that can bind to the
testosterone receptor with much greater
affinity
or I should say the Androgen receptor
with much greater affinity and have
supraphysiological effects effects that
would essentially never be seen from
testosterone that was endogeny
endogenously excuse me endogenously
released within the body we could say
the same thing for estrogen there are
estrogen
receptors they bind estrogen okay but if
someone were to take synthetic estrogen
or to ingest a plant compound that
contains various estrogen genic
compounds and those plants certainly
exist out there they can have super
physiological effects on those receptors
why am I telling you this well many
people believe that because cannabis
marijuana is a plant and plants grow out
of the ground and they're naturally
occurring and because we have receptors
in our body that are there without the
need to engineer them from some external
Source right they're in our genome it
programmed for it and we're born with
the things and we keep these things our
entire life many people mistakenly think
ah you know these plant compounds are
safer for us or better for us or are
somehow appropriate for us to
ingest but that's simply not true and
here I'm not saying that cannabis is
always a bad idea for people there are
certain populations and certain people
for which it can be relatively safe
recreationally that's the truth and
there are other populations for which it
can be downright dangerous
recreationally or
medicinally and of course there are
medicinal purposes that are being
explored and we'll talk more about that
but this is vital to understand because
I think that when we hear oh it's from a
plant it's natural and then you also
have a receptor for these endogenous
cannabinoid receptors and therefore the
marriage of those two right the coming
together of the chemical THC or CBD or
both with these receptors is somehow
supposed to happen as if this was a a
purpose of having these receptors but
it's simply not the case in the same way
that The nicotinic receptors are not
there because nicotine is good for us
they're there because there are
compounds that exist within us that are
good to bind to those receptors from
time to time now here's the key thing
about I guess today I'm saying there are
a lot of key things but here's another
key thing about understanding cannabis
and the way that it works which is that
THC and CBD when they're brought into
the brain and body by smoking or you
know edible
Etc they bind to those receptors those
endogenous cannabinoid receptors and
they tap into into the same systems that
your endogenous canabo would tap into
the ones that affect mood and energy and
creativity and relaxation Etc but they
do so with thousandfold greater potency
and as a consequence of that your
endogenous cannabinoids are outcompeted
they really get no opportunity to
interact with those receptors and
understanding that can lead to a very
clear understanding of why for instance
when people use cannabis to relieve
anxiety or they use cannabis to enter a
certain brain state for creativity or to
enter sleep why a dependence on cannabis
starts to emerge because if they don't
ingest cannabis and again ingest could
mean smoke to bring THC in or cban or
ingest orally or even transdermal or
tincture or one of the other varieties
if they don't do that then what happens
is not only are The receptors not
stimulated to the same degree or with
the same potency that they normally are
but the endogenous cannabinoids can no
longer have their effect so people
experience heightened levels of anxiety
disrupted mood disrupted brain State and
so on now again I want to be very clear
that I'm not trying to paint a picture
of cannabis as all bad or even partially
bad what I want to do today is give you
as much information I can as to how
cannabis Works how its different
component parts work how the different
types of cannabis work and point to some
of the medicinal uses and some of the
recreational uses and then lay out the
landscape for you as to who is really
most at risk in terms of psychoactive
components immune components and so on
and so forth so that you can make the
most informed choice for you I am not
here to tell you what to do or what not
to do as I like to say you know do as
you wish right I mean don't do as you
wish if it harms other people or
yourself but do as you wish but know
what you're doing so that's really my
goal here so as we begin to dive further
into the biology I think you'll start to
get a clear picture of why cannabis is
so effective in some contexts but also
why it can create such massive suffering
in other contexts because of the way
that it outcompetes your own natural
endogenous cannabinoid systems so let's
talk about those endogenous cannaboid
systems what they are and how they work
because that will give us a lens into
what the higher potency of Maximum
Impact of the various cannabis plant
varieties and strains and and THC and
CBD and so forth how and why those work
so what are the endogenous cannabinoids
these chemical substances that everybody
makes right you make them I make them
you've been making them basically from
the time that you were conceived and you
are going to make them until the time
that you die whether or not they have
the impact and the biological functions
that I'm about to describe will depend a
lot on whether or not you are using your
own endogenous cannabinoids to park in
those receptors that you also have from
birth until death or whether or not you
are tickling those receptors or strongly
activating those receptors using some
external Source like cannabis THC
Etc the two main endogenous cannabinoids
that we want to consider are anandamide
which we will refer to as eae so
anandamide and another one which is
aradon glycerol aradon glycerol which we
will abbreviate 2 a so let's just take
eae and 2 a lump them together and talk
about the endogenous canabo just to make
it simple but if you want to do the Deep
dive on anatomi versus 2 AG please be my
guest the endogenous cannabinoids are
released from neurons what are neurons
neurons are nerve cells and nerve cells
should be conceptualized like this you
have press synaptic neurons and post
synaptic neurons presynaptic neurons
basically contain little vesicles little
bubbles full of neurotransmitter which
are chemicals and when neurons are
stimulated electrically and that could
be from a thought it could be from the
desire to move it could be because of a
drug it could be because you're hungry
the relevant neurons will vomit out or
will fuse as we say those neuro little
packets those little bubbles of
neurotransmitter into the gap between
the pre- and post neur we call that a
synaptic Clift or the synapse it's a
little Gap Capal space and the
neurotransmitter flows across that
synapse and some of it will park in
little parking spots that we call
receptors on the post synaptic neuron
side depending on which neurotransmitter
it is and a bunch of other things not
worth going into right now the parking
of that chemical in those
neurotransmitter receptors will either
cause that neuron on the postoptic side
to itself relase neurotransmitter
elsewhere or it will quiet it down
so-called excitation and inhibition
that's kind of neur transmission in a
nutshell if you don't understand it no
big deal it's not going to prevent you
from understanding today's discussion if
you understand even a small fraction of
what I've just said then it's going to
allow you to understand not just today's
discussion but a lot of Neuroscience
with a lot more nuance and depth of
understanding the key thing to know
about the endogenous cannabinoids is
that unlike most
neurotransmitters they are released from
the post synaptic side so what happens
is neurotransmitter goes from press
synaptic neuron to post synaptic neuron
but under certain conditions the post
synaptic neuron itself relases a
chemical and that chemical goes backward
what we call retrogradely to the pre
synaptic neuron binds The receptors
there and changes the probability that
the presynaptic neuron will release
neurotransmitter put simply endogenous
cannabinoids tend to decrease the
probability that the a neuron will
release neurotransmitter they're sort of
a break on the system they are a way of
shutting down the communication between
neurons regulating it not to make it
completely quiet but to adjust the
levels with a lot of nuance now the
other thing that the endogenous
cannabinoids do is sort of a Mindbender
because we're talking about cannabis and
a commonly known feature of cannabis and
marijuana consumption is disruptions in
short-term memory and there is
essentially zero debate as to whether or
not that occurs and we'll talk about the
mechanisms a little bit later and yet
endogenous cannabinoids the chemicals
that you naturally release from these
post synaptic neurons that travel
retrogradely back to the Pres synaptic
neuron actually can lead to
strengthening of connections between the
pratic neuron and the post synaptic
neuron through a process called
long-term potentiation or
ltp they can also cause what's called
depression of communication between a
presynaptic neuron and a post synaptic
neuron long-term
depression has nothing to do with
depression as a psychological state or
as a
illness long-term potentiation and
long-term depression simply refer to the
probability that one neuron will be able
to stimulate and activate another neuron
and as I just told you the endogenous
canabo can either turn up the dial or
turn down the dial they can either
increase the probability or de increase
the probability that a given connection
between neurons will function more or
will function less so if you think about
the communication between neurons as a
cross talk as a conversation well the
endogenous cannabinoids can dictate
whether or not that conversation is
likely to occur or not to occur think of
them as either um you know putting
someone at the top of your text chain in
your phone which would be long-term
potentiation or essentially blocking
their number which would essentially be
long-term
depression so if you're getting the
impression that the endogenous
cannabinoids are working in a number of
different ways and it's not very
straightforward you're right in fact
that's the message that I'd like you to
take away the endogenous cannabinoids
are sometimes increasing neuronal
communication this can lead to increases
in mood or increases in the likelihood
that someone will talk a certain way or
behave a certain way or feel a certain
way they can also lead to decreases in
synaptic transmission that is
communication between neurons in ways
that will make somebody's mood lower or
will make them less hungry or more
hungry and here's the really key thing
there are two kinds of endogenous
cannabinoid receptors referred to as CB1
and CB2 and we can say with confidence
that CB1 is highly enriched in the
nervous system and especially within the
brain it's found not everywhere but
almost everywhere in the brain and
elsewhere in the nervous system so
spinal cord and other aspects of the
nervous system CB2
the cannabinoid
receptor CB2 is largely located on the
tissues of the body including the immune
system the liver even the genitals Etc
so what this means is that the
endogenous cannabinoids are having these
sorts of effects on neurons that I
talked about but they are also having
effects on immune cells on reproductive
organs on liver on digestion on Hunger
Etc through mechanisms that are divorced
from the function of the nervous system
of neurons now in reality no system of
the brain body is divorced from the
nervous system because the nervous
system is controlling everything it is
really the master controller and
everything's feeding back to the nervous
system so it's a two-way street but the
simple way to think about is CB1
receptors are mainly in the nervous
system and CB2 receptors are mainly in
the body and endogenous cannabinoids
again eae anatomi and 2ag araido
glycerol are impacting CB1 and CB2
receptors today we're mainly going to
talk about CB1 receptors because they
are the ones that responsible for most
of the familiar effects of cannabis but
the key takeaway at this point is to
really understand that the major effects
of your endogenous cannabinoids on these
receptors in this particular CB1 are
very nuanced it depends on context
depends on which neurons it's you know
sometimes increasing communication
between neurons sometimes decreasing it
and then Along Comes cannabis and that
cannabis again can arrive by smoking by
vaping by edible and cannabis contains
THC and CBD that potently bind the CB1
receptor and now the effects of the CB1
receptor being occupied by THC or being
occupied by
CBD are not very nuanced in fact they
are very predictable and especially
important is to understand that they are
so strong and they park in that receptor
with such Affinity with such force and
precision and stubbornness and refusal
to leave that
receptor that they completely outcompete
the endogenous cannabinoid system in
fact they leave the endogenous cannaboid
system essentially
dysfunctional which in some cases may be
a good thing but in most cases is going
to lead to problems of various kinds and
we'll talk about what sorts of problems
and again I feel obligated to say this
is not me saying don't ingest cannabis
or THC or CBD it's not what I'm saying
what I'm saying is if you evaluate the
potency that is in technical terms it
would be the Affinity with which these
compounds THC and CBD and CBN bind to
these endogenous receptors that would be
like a howitz or gun like a cannon going
off as compared to endogenous canabo
whether or not it's eae or 2ag which is
more like a cap gun level of activation
at least in this analogy so now you have
what at least I would like to think is a
fairly complete understanding of the
different varieties of cannabis at least
at a broad sweep and the different
biological effects that they can have at
least in terms of the major receptors
and retrograde signaling etc etc now
let's take a step back into the real
world and evaluate or think about what
happens when somebody smokes cannabis or
ingests cannabis by way of edible or
tincture or something of that
sort cannabis is very fast to enter the
bloodstream
in fact within 30 seconds it's going to
enter the brain and permeate throughout
the brain and body that's very very fast
I mean when you contrast that with
something like alcohol or even nicotine
depending on how the nicotine is
delivered that is a very fast delivery
of the psychoactive and biologically
active compound which in this case is
THC and CBD and probably some other
things as well so within 30 seconds it
reaches the brain and bodily tissues and
within 30 to 60 minutes it's going to to
reach its peak concentrations and have
its peak biological effects those aren't
always the same thing but in the case of
cannabis again here I'm using cannabis
as a kind of umbrella term for THC and
CBD the effects are going to Peak at
about 30 to 60 minutes after bringing
those compounds into the body in some
way or another and the effects tend to
last anywhere from 3 to 4 hours although
there's some variation on that depending
on individual metabolism whether or not
somebody is uh familiar with the
compound Believe It or Not
psychologically familiar but also
biologically familiar or whether or not
it's a firsttime use or occasional use
and so
on THC and CBD and other components of
cannabis are highly what we call
lipophilic that is they have an affinity
toward it and they can actually pass
through fatty tissues now every cell in
your body but especially neurons have a
double layer of fat on their outside and
of course when people say he fat they
always think oh Fat's bad Fat's you know
most of the world seems to want to lose
fat or bodily fat here we're talking
about the fatty membrane the barrier
around each tissue in this case we're
talking particularly about neurons and
THC and CBD and the other components of
cannabis are highly lipophilic so they
can get into essentially all cells just
simply by flowing into them they will
also remain in those cells for a long
time so I know that a number of people
depending on whether or not they get
tested for work or for sport or
otherwise for cannabis or CBD and THC
don't take this as a strict number but
typically if one ingests CBD or THC
smokes cannabis ingests by orally Etc
doesn't matter it's going to stay in
that fatty tissue and can be detected
for at least as long as 80 days after
ingestion and there's a whole industry
as to you know how to accelerate the
clearance and um I should just tell you
that just losing bodily fat isn't going
to um eliminate it from your system uh
maybe partially in those fat cells but
uh certainly in uh intrav visceral fat
and other fatty tissue that's in around
the brain and body is going to Harbor
that THC molecule and the CBD molecule
for quite a long while at least 80 Days
okay so if someone smokes cannabis or
they ingest cannabis very rapidly gets
into the bloodstream and the components
that are psychoactive get into the
bloodstream and are immediately able to
access neurons and other cells and start
having these effects of parking at those
endogenous canabo receptors and
impacting the signaling between neurons
which leads to the subjective effects of
cannabis including THC and CBD so let's
talk about what those different
subjective effects are again this is
going to vary depending on whether or
not people are digesting sativa
varieties of cannabis just to remind you
those tend to be elevated mood alertness
talkativeness people who take sativa
varieties tend to talk a lot more than
they would otherwise again there are
exceptions to this of course there are
exceptions I'm sure there are people out
there shouting although I guess if
you're the quiet people who don't talk
too much you're probably not shouting or
if you're not you're not doing on sativa
joke intended but in any event there are
exceptions but there are also general
rules and the sativas tend to meet
people sort of mood elevated energetic
again the sort of head high and indicia
varieties tend to do the opposite more
of a sedative relaxant Etc why and how
would they do that okay well without
going into an extensive Deep dive into
the different neurotransmitter systems
of the brain
body what we know for sure is that CB1
receptors are present on an enormous
number of different neurons and brain
structures and neural circuits so that
the sativa varieties that act as sort of
a stimulant making people feel happy
because in general they do tend to
elevate mood at least at certain dosages
talkative uh tend to make people feel um
like they have ideas that are
interesting that they might want to
share um tend to narrow their context so
tend to increase Focus this is something
is not often discussed about cannabis
but it can especially the sativa
varieties can increase people's level of
focus to particular things that
something they're watching or something
they're doing or music allows them to
narrow their sense of
focus that's going to occur by
activation of CB1 receptors in the
so-called prefrontal cortex which is
just behind the forehead and the
prefrontal cortex acts as a strong
modulator of so-called limic circuitry
and other circuitry that is more stress
oriented the way to think about the
stress and lyic circuitry such as the
amydala which many people have heard
about is that they aren't really
circuits for fear and stress they are
circuits that are constantly evaluating
one's own internal State heart rate Etc
and what's happening externally and
sorry to say but the default of those
systems is to detect danger the sort of
threat detection systems and then the
prefrontal cortex largely acts as a
break on those systems sort of like the
rains pulling back on a Ste of horses
that would otherwise just kind of take
off and so the sativo varieties tend to
increase CB1 activation in the
prefrontal cortex and in other circuitry
that then leads to a kind of overall
reduction in stress because of the way
that prefrontal circuitry can reduce
activation of the amydala now that of
course does not explain why some people
become very stressed and very paranoid
when they smoke sativa varieties or
other varieties of cannabis or ingest
other varieties of cannabis we will talk
about the paranoid effect and why that
occurs and who might predict that would
occur to them in in a little bit
but just want to give you a sense of how
this is working because as I mentioned
before THC Andor CBD are going to bind
that CB1 receptor let's say in
prefrontal cortex a neurons a prefrontal
cortex is going to bind there and then
there will be a retrograde signaling
back to the presynaptic neuron and in
the case of prefrontal Cortex what's
happening is it's increasing
transmission increasing the release of
neurotransmitter in prefrontal cortex
however at the same
time the very same THC and CBD that was
brought into the system system is
binding the very same type of receptors
CB1 receptors in other brain structures
such as the amydala
and causing retrograde signaling back to
the presynaptic neurons in the amydala
but is quieting the activation of those
neurons so this is interesting right we
have the same compounds THC Andor CBD
brought into the body and brain
findinding the same receptors in this
case the CB1 receptors but depending on
where those receptors are
located and which brain areas we're
referring to they are either causing
heighten levels of alertness and
activation of systems that are designed
to make you talkative and alertness and
mood Etc Focus or they are causing
suppression of those circuitries so we
have kind of a seesaw effect here where
the same compound is increasing mood and
alertness and focus in the prefrontal
cortex and is
decreasing stress and threat detection
in the amydala
and that's one of the reasons why
especially the sativa varieties of
cannabis allow people to enter these
states of focus some might even say flow
although I don't want to go into what
flow States really are that's for a
different discussion and it's very
poorly defined as it is and I certainly
don't want to give people the impression
that cannabis increases flow States
because that's not always the case and
certainly most often is not going to be
the case but the idea here is that this
molecule comes into our brain and is
Shifting everything towards a state of
focus elevated mood of heightened sense
of importance about whatever it is that
we happen to be doing and now of course
whatever we could happen to be doing
could be writing a song writing poetry
communicating with somebody but it could
also be something as trivial as watching
cartoons or watching a movie which is
you know not trivial in its own right
but in terms of thinking about the
creative aspects or the creativity
stimulating aspects of cannabis not um
sort of productivity oriented so
narrowed Focus elevated mood more
relaxed and yet energetic that's the
major effects of the sativa
varieties except and this is a really
big bold face triple underline except
except in some individuals depending on
dosage but also depending on
pre-existing neural circuitry and
propensity for anxiety some people
ingest or smoke sativa varieties and
regardless of whether or not it's a type
1 type two or type three variety okay
regardless of the ratio between THC and
CBD people will experience
intense anxiety and
paranoia now how do you predict who will
experience intense anxiety and paranoia
and who will experience intense
relaxation focus and sense of creativity
from ingesting or smoking a type one
type two or type three sativa well there
is no way to predict that and there's a
lot of kind of what I would call Street
lore or dorm room lore or kind of um
peer P not peer reviewed uh but uh sort
of peer discust I mean among friends and
people and acquaintances lore out there
that what one needs to do is simply
smoke more right or just ingest more you
hear that oh well listen if it makes you
paranoid you simply need to use more
that is absolutely categorically false
everything we know about the way that
THC and CBD work is that they tend to
potentiate that is increase the effects
of these different systems at synapses
and in different areas of the brain and
body that is if someone experiences
paranoia or anxiety from a given strain
of the marijuana plant or from ingesting
an edible in a particular way or a
particular kind of
edible that person is very likely to
experience the same effect every time
they ingest that strainer
variety this is part of What's led to
this enormous industry I mean there are
a number of different reasons but this
is part of What's led to this enormous
industry of highly
customized cannabis where people will
spend some time really seeking out the
different strains of cannabis and H
hybrids of cannabis that work best for
them and work best for them in
particular context I wish I could tell
you that if you are a person who is you
know between 5' 7 and 6 feet tall and uh
you have blue eyes uh or brown eyes that
the sativa varieties are going to be
right for you or that the sativa
varieties are going to give you panic
attacks I can't do that the only only
way to determine it would be to actually
experience ingesting those or smoking
those which is certainly also not what
I'm suggesting right that's up to you
I'm not telling you what to do or what
not to do but there are no good
predictors in fact if you look in the
literature it is not at all clear that
people who have a heightened level of
anxiety when they do not smoke cannabis
will experience cannabis as less
paranoia inducing or more relaxing
that's simply not the case now
what we can say for sure is that General
categories of effects such as increased
focus and reduced anxiety are largely
due to activation of areas like the
prefrontal cortex now unlike other
compounds like nicotine or alcohol or
neurotransmitter systems like dopamine
when we talk about the cannabinoid
system and I say effects biological
effects psychoactive effects I want you
to keep in mind always please please
please keep in mind that those effects
can be varied and often opposite in
direction so let's just give an example
of that I just mentioned that when
people smoke or or eat sativa that it
tends to lead to one specific set of or
generally leads to one specific set of
effects height and focus mood Etc
whereas when they ingest or smoke
indicia and its components right again
we're still talking about THC and CBD in
varying ratios but now indicia cannabis
and you say well why would it improve
the transition time to sleep or at least
give people the impression that it
improved the transition time to sleep
we'll talk about what Indica actually
does for sleep in a little bit but
indicia also tends to suppress
activation of the amydala and threat
detection centers in the brain again
binding the same CB1 receptors and those
retrograde signaling mechanisms I talked
about before but it also tends to shut
down the hippocampus an area of the
brain associated with memory which is
why indicia varieties lead to pronoun Ed
or I should say profound defects in
short-term memory and sometimes in
long-term memory as well if it's
consumed over long periods of time we'll
talk about short medium and long-term
consumption occasional consumption going
forward so what I'd like you to take
away from this component of the
discussion is first of all the mechanism
of action by which cannabis impacts the
brain and body but in particular the
brain is going to be through CB1
receptors and those CB1 receptors can
lead to either an acceleration or a
break on particular biological
mechanisms and there are going to be a
constellation of different accelerations
and breaking of different neural systems
in the brain and
body depending on whether or not people
ingest sativa or indicia or some hybrid
strain and perhaps most importantly even
if you didn't understand anything that
I've said about the biology of these
different strains and The receptors
please do understand that there is no
way to
predict what the effect of a given
strain will be on an individual there
has been extensive exploration as to
whether or not people who are so-called
mellower or more anxious or any number
of different personality Dimensions will
respond in one way or the other but in
fact there is no way to tell layer on
top of that the fact that dosing THC and
CBD can be fairly straightforward in the
form of Edibles right because there can
there can be at least if it's a
controlled Source a defined number of
milligrams of THC a defined number of
milligrams of CBD
that's true for ingestibles it's much
harder to gauge that from the smokable
forms of cannabis especially if those
smokable forms of cannabis are obtained
through sources where there isn't a lot
of clear information about the total
amount of THC in that product now this
is all changing quite a lot nowadays
because of the commercialization of THC
and CBD products and cannabis in a
number of different areas including in
the United States but still many people
are ingesting cannabis THC CBD through
sources where they don't really know how
much they're bringing into their system
and so whether or not someone gets
incredible Anxiety Relief enhanced sense
of mood and focus and well-being pain
relief Etc or whether or not they have
full-blown panic attacks Etc is very
hard to predict based on dosage
information alone now of course we can
create broad categories and we're going
to talk about studies that create broad
categories of low dose moderate dose and
high dose frequent use and infrequent
use but
unlike alcohol unlike nicotine we can't
really point to specificity of x amount
of alcohol grams of alcohol per week
which is safe or x amount of alcohol
which is not safe and so I know a lot of
people out there are wondering you know
how often can they smoke cannabis or how
often can they eat cannabis or THC or
CBD and any number of its different
forms and
products safely well we have to really
Define what safely means and we have to
really acknowledge that that there's a
pretty loose set of controls over what
one is bringing into their brain and
body as they ingest THC and CBD but even
under conditions in which it's very
controlled it's very hard to predict
what those effects will be so before
moving into specifics of taking cannabis
or not taking cannabis who should who
shouldn't what the medicinal purposes
are and what some of the newer exciting
data point to I just briefly want to
make a list and I promise very briefly I
know I'm not often concise but I do try
to be thorough for your sake I want to
make a very brief list of the different
brain areas that are impacted by THC and
CBD and why THC and CBD have the various
effects they
do when somebody smokes or
ingests cannabis doesn't matter what the
THC or CBD ratio
is if they
experience def osit in memory and that's
almost always present that's going to be
because of reductions in electrical
activity within this brain region we
call the hippocampus okay hippocampus
means seahorse it's shaped like a
seahorse anatomist like to name things
after what things look like but
hippocampus memory memory is reduced in
particular short-term memory that's true
regardless of whether or not one is
using sativa indicia or some
hybrid in general the prefrontal cortex
is going to be activated by the sativa
varieties which is going to increase
thinking and narrowly constrain Focus to
some activity and that's more commonly
associated with the sativa varieties the
Ina varieties as I mentioned before tend
to lead to a suppression of activity in
prefrontal cortex believe it or not and
turn off thinking and planning this is
why Inda varieties are often used for
relaxation and for promoting
sleep regardless of whether or not
sativa or indicia
variety and again regardless of the
ratio of THC to CBD there is a general
suppression of neural circuits within
the so-call basil ganglia and cerebellum
basil ganglia and cerebellum are areas
of the brain that are involved in action
planning and withholding action so that
would be the basil ganglia So-Cal go noo
circuitry and the cerebellum which is
involved in Balance but also motor
planning and motor
sequencing this is why people who smoke
marijuana
regardless of the strain will tend to be
less physically mobile other common
effects are rening of the eyes dryness
of the mouth that's actually caused by
the same general mechanism which is a
reduction in the secretion of saliva and
of sort of tears and lubrication of the
eyes from the lacrimal glands of the
eyes because of the presence of largely
CB2 but also CB1 receptors in the mouth
and on the eyes and there tends to be
especially with certain strains of
cannabis increas in appetite so-called
munchies and that has everything to do
with very very high density of CB1
receptors in the hypothalamus and in
particular areas of the hypothalamus
like the aru nucleus of the hypothalamus
other areas as well of course that have
tons of CB1 receptors bind THC and CBD
and activate the neurons that strongly
stimulate appetite through two
mechanisms one is a cognitive mechanism
of creating a preoccupation with food
and anticipation of taste as well as the
experience of taste so the narrowing of
focus to what you want to go eat right
you really crave I don't know Pizza it
seems to be high fat High carbohydrate
foods but really crave
pizza and narrowing of focus so that
you're not thinking about anything else
but also signaling from the hypothalamus
to the gut to neurons within the stomach
itself that regulate blood sugar so
there are strong effects on blood sugar
of THC and CBD that generally lead to
increases in appetite so two parallel
mechanisms one within the brain one
within the body increasing appetite okay
so there's an array of different effects
and as I mentioned before CB1 receptors
are present all over the nervous system
in the brain the spinal cord in fact the
presence of CB1 receptors in the spinal
cord largely explains the fact that THC
and CBD to some extent although it's not
very well studied can provide some pain
relief I say say some because a lot of
people perceive
or believe that they experience more
pain relief from Cannabis than they
actually do it actually has a lot to do
with a perceptual shift to basically
focusing on other things but there does
seem to be some anti-os acceptive
meaning anti- pain effects of cannabis
THC in particular and that is exerted
largely through effects on CB1 receptors
in neurons of the spinal cord so a broad
array of effects are taking place
regardless of what strain you take and
what whether or not you eat the cannabis
or you smoke the Cannabis and the broad
array of effects can be explained by the
fact that that retrograde signaling can
lead to activation or suppression of
activity in various neurons so now I'd
like to take a step back from the
biology of cannabis and THC and CBD and
all the signaling and receptors Etc and
really just focus on cannabis use and
wherever possible I will point to the
specific strains that have been studied
and the ratios of THC to CBD but I have
to say that unfortunately most studies
of marijuana of cannabis while they have
been very careful to detail the amount
of THC lowd dose medium dose or high
dose and actually getting very specific
right down to the number of milligrams
or even how much circulating THC is
present after somebody smokes a joint or
ingests uh
cannabis most Studies have not
distinguished between sativa and indicia
strains and that's unfortunate because
in the real world people are
distinguishing between sativa and
indicia strain in their patterns of use
and what they prefer and what they don't
prefer even what they prefer to smoke
during the day or ingest during the day
versus night believe it or not there are
people who are using certain strains
during the day and other strains at
night but the science has yet to catch
up to that or I should say more
accurately the general public and the
themes that are emerging and the
practices that are emerging around
cannabis especially in states where it's
decriminalized or legalized are
occurring at such a rapid rate that
there's absolutely no way that the
science could keep up this is a
naturally occurring experiment not to
say that it's natural like people should
do it but it's an experiment that's
happening in real time in the real world
much faster than controlled studies
within University Laboratories and other
Laboratories can keep up so at this
point I think it's appropriate to ask
ourselves why do people even use
cannabis I mean what are they trying to
achieve is it always about not feeling
pain is it always about reducing anxiety
well sometimes it is but often times
people are using cannabis in order to
achieve a particular State and we could
use a broad brush and say well they just
like being high but while that may be
true in a lot of
circumstances and I have to believe it
actually is true in a lot of
circumstances there are a lot of people
who use cannabis in a very directed way
or they get quote unquote high in order
to achieve states that to them are
particularly attractive and one such
state is a state of creativity and this
brings us to a broader theme which is
does cannabis increase creativity and if
so is it the THC the CBD what's the
appropriate Ratio or the best ratio for
accessing creativity this is an
interesting and important discussion I
believe because creativity is one of the
more sought-after and more elusive
states that humans can experience and
yet if you look at human evolution you
look at our progression uh in terms of
Technology development and uh culture
and music and poetry
Etc we really can look to creativity as
the state that fostered so much of that
Evolution so whe whether or not you're
into technology or you're into art or
music whether or not you're just
somebody who wants to expand their
understanding or their experience of
life in some way creativity is a
fundamentally important state to try and
access and to try and access regularly
and to try and tap into in order to
eventually produce something in order to
create something of meaning that exists
not just in that creative state but to
yourself after that creative state has
gone away right so the painting that you
paint in the creative state hopefully is
a painting that still inspires and um
has impact after you exit that creative
state and that will inspire others and
this could be true for any number of
different things not just painting so
does cannabis increase creativity the
short answer is it depends first of all
we need to Define creativity right here
we are as as thinking as scientists if
not already scientists and there are
basically two modes of thinking that are
associated with creativity and they
don't completely explain creativity but
if you look in the research the
psychology research and the Neuroscience
research you'll hear about convergent
thinking and Divergent
thinking convergent thinking is taking
loose ideas and kind of braiding them
together finding a Common Thread
synthesizing and organizing those
different ideas into some common or
specific framework in order to get or
create some specific outcome so
convergent thinking is basically uh the
person in the room who's listening to
all the IDE ideas and taking them all in
maybe it's a a panel of you know how
should we um you know how should we get
a certain product out to Market or you
know what are the what are the different
motifs that we should include in a piece
of music or you know um what should we
do in terms of re rearching a given
physical space taking in those different
opinions those different ideas from
different people and then synthesizing
them and coming up with one or a small
subset of coherent ideas that
incorporate some or all all of the ones
that they heard okay so that's
convergent thinking it doesn't have to
involve a panel of people talking to you
I use that as an example of what goes on
inside your own head when you are
engaging in convergent thinking you're
thinking well so and so said this and I
think that and you're kind of braiding
them through and trying to get some
common theme some common Vector to
emerge from that Divergent thinking on
the other hand is best described as
brainstorming it's exploring ideas and
continuing to move into the variation
and the vastness of ideas in hopes of
eventually being able to converge on
some novel idea or framework okay so
these are similar in related but
typically the creativity process
involves first brainstorming and
Divergent thinking and then in order to
arrive at something to actually create
something right the verb create not just
thinking about what you might create
which occurs during Divergent thinking
but actually creating something a
specific painting a specific song a
specific
of literature a specific scientific
project or experiment and so
on that usually involves conversion
thinking now these can be explored in
the laboratory and they can be explored
in the Laboratories through sets of
different types of questionnaires or
even tasks that you can give human
subjects and this has been done
extensively and across the entire body
of data and by that I mean literally
hundreds of studies that have explored
the relationship between particular
neural circuits and neurochemicals
convergent and Divergent thinking
we can arrive at a at a principle and
the principle involves a molecule that
many of you have heard about before
which is dopamine dopamine is a
neuromodulator it's involved in
motivation and it tends to direct our
attention to things outside of us but
it's also closely related to convergent
thinking and Divergent thinking and to
the creative process and therefore it
should come as no surprise that diseases
of the nerv nervous system excuse me
such as bipolar disorder which we've
done an episode all about bipolar
disorder or
schizophrenia or mood disorders that
impact the levels of dopamine either
make it way way too high or way way too
low strongly impact whether or not
people will be creative and I think the
short takeaway that makes the most sense
in terms of framing this and we covered
this on the episode on on bipolar
disorder sometimes called bipolar
depression is that in professions where
there's a lot of creativity required in
order to succeed so again musicians
composers artists Etc
you tend to find more manic depression
and manic depression at least in the
manic States the hyperactive states are
correlated with elevated levels of
dopamine likewise it has been seen over
and over throughout history that that
individuals that have mild forms of
schizophrenia or even full-blown
schizophrenia many famous painters for
instance or musicians they are known to
have elevated levels of dopamine and
they are quite creative now that doesn't
mean everybody who's creative has
elevated levels of dopamine although
it's likely that their levels of
dopamine are at least not diminished and
it doesn't mean that non-creative people
have low levels of dopamine so don't get
carried away with the interpretation
here but the point is
this dopamine levels strongly relate to
the probability that you can engage in
convergent and Divergent thinking and
they do so in the following way when
dopamine levels are high Divergent
thinking is more likely that is when
people have a lot of dopamine
circulating in their system
they tend to be very expansive with
their ideas they tend to brainstorm a
lot they tend to be comfortable and even
want to or reflexively throw out a lot
of ideas that sometimes even seem a
little disconnected some people might
think of this as kind of attention
deficit but it's not it's really the
idea of you know throwing out disperate
ideas right um you know you hear
sometimes you know you throw things
against the wall and see what sticks
well these people that's a obviously an
analogy but people are um throwing lots
of things against the wall and seeing
what stick and then seeing how the
things that stick fit together that's
Divergent thinking and elevations in
dopamine tend to increase Divergent
thinking however they tend to do this in
kind of an inverted u-shaped way for
those of you that are watching on
YouTube I'm just drawing kind of a a
hump obviously and for those of you
listening just imagine a u the shape of
a letter U and then just flip it upside
down so it looks like a bump turns out
that when dopamine levels are very low
there's a low probability of Divergent
thinking when dopamine level lels are
high as I mentioned before there's a
high level or probability of Divergent
thinking but when dopamine levels go
very very high then there's again a
reduction in Divergent thinking in other
words there's a kind of a sweet spot of
elevated dopamine for Divergent thinking
and again Divergent thinking is critical
for the creativity process because
creativity by definition is taking a
novel set of ideas and arranging them in
a particular way or taking existing
ideas and arranging them in a novel away
that then you eventually Converge on
some new product New Idea new song
Etc now convergent thinking follows a
very different pattern when dopamine
levels are high convergent thinking is
not very likely and when dopamine levels
are low convergent thinking is very
likely so here using a arguably a very
reductionist view we're looking at all
of this thing of we're calling
creativity through a very neuroscienc
reductionist lens we can say this the
creative process involves going into a
state where you're willing to consider a
lot of options many of which seem
distantly or not even connected to one
another and dopamine facilitates that
Divergent thinking State in which you
are perfectly happy and in fact
experience a kind of a joy or
relation a comfort and a pleasure in
organizing all these different ideas
that to anyone else might seem not that
related but when your dopamine levels
are elevated these all seem like great
ideas and that maybe there are
connections there right you're not
accepting all of them as true and valid
and interesting and combining them but
there's this idea that you know it's
it's worth entertaining the possibility
at least for moments and then as
dopamine levels drop there is the
process of convergent thinking which is
taking options down off the wall saying
no no that doesn't fit with that doesn't
fit with that but ah that fits with that
and that can work that feels right or
sounds right or looks right that's the
creativity process and so I think this
is not just important for understanding
cannabis which we'll get back to in a
moment but it's important for
understanding creativity and brain
States in general brain states are not
as we would say a square wave function
you don't just drop into a trench of
creativity creativity is not an event
it's a process and what I'm telling you
is that it's a process that involves
Divergent thinking and consideration a
lot of different ideas that's correlated
with high but not too high dopamine and
then one has to transition into a state
of convergent thinking which is really
homing in on the ideas that seem to have
validity or that could have validity and
getting rid of everything else and
that's associated with low dopamine it's
more about logical implementation and
consideration as opposed to thinking
about and considering everything so
let's now return to the question of
whether or not cannabis and its
different components increase
creativity and when you look at the
literature on this you find studies that
very clearly point to a yes itre
increases creativity and it's not
surprising therefore that cannabis can
increase dopamine transmission that is
dopamine levels in certain brain areas
in particular brain areas involved in
thinking and planning okay so cannabis
increases dopamine in these areas
Elevate dopamine increases Divergent
thinking and Divergent thinking is
associated with creativity and there are
studies that support the idea that
cannabis can increase creativity however
there are at least as many studies that
say that cannabis does not increase
creativity that cannabis increases
consideration of multiple ideas perhaps
through elevation of dopamine and
related systems but that ultimately the
ideas that converge from that are not
truly creative ideas at least they don't
meet the criteria for Creative
brainstorming and extraction of ideas
that are truly novel so it doesn't
increase creativity so which one is it
well fortunately there's an entirely
distinct set of literature that has
taken all the other literature into
consideration
and here's where we arrive so there's a
really nice study that explored
creativity in cannabis users and we will
provide a link to the study um first
author is Emily lefrance and the title
of the paper somewhat amusing uh in its
own right which is it starts with a
question uh inspired by Mary Jane of
course Mary Jane being one of the kind
of old school versions of or ways of
talking about cannabis or marijuana
nowadays people refer to it mainly as
pot as other names too of course and the
title of the paper is inspired by by
Mary Jane mechanisms underlying enhanced
creativity in cannabis users and I
really like this study for a couple of
reasons first of all they looked at
people who did not use cannabis as well
as people who used cannabis so they had
two different groups but they did not
evaluate creativity of the Cannabis
users while they were under the
influence of cannabis they looked at the
level of creativity in these cannabis
users when they were not under the
fluence of cannabis and asked whether or
not their ability to be creative was
enhanced by cannabis now we're going to
compare this to studies in which people
come into the laboratory and actually
use cannabis and then they evaluate
creativity under that context but this
study has some unique takeaways that I
think are really interesting first of
all they did yes see evidence for
enhanced creativity and when I say
enhanced creativity I mean within the
context of this Divergent thinking thing
that I talked about a moment ago
and when I say enhanced I mean
significantly greater than in non-users
so people that don't use cannabis so
right now I can imagine all the Cannabis
users are are are cheering yes cannabis
increases creativity makes people more
creative than they would be otherwise
well this is interesting we have to ask
ourselves how that was accomplished it
turns out that one of the major ways in
which it was accomplished is that
cannabis users even if they are not
under the influence of
cannabis are far more open to novel
ideas
and they have a more explorative and
sort of reduced anxiety or I should say
lower anxiety mode of thinking when they
explore novel ideas which is essential
for Divergent thinking so they observe
both enhanced Divergent and convergent
creative type thinking in cannabis users
and the source of that they conclude is
and here I'll just quote cannabis users
higher levels of openness to experience
are responsible for their enhanced
self-reported creativity and convergent
thinking test performance so it's not
necessarily that cannabis is increasing
the capacity of the brain areas are
associated with creativity but rather
are cannabis appears to be increasing an
openness and probably doing that in part
through lowering anxiety in particular
people and that openness is leading to
inclusion of more ideas during the
Divergent thinking process right they're
willing to consider throwing up more
things on the wall to see if they stick
so to speak so in their conclusions they
have a really nice statement again I'll
just read uh from the paper because they
said it better than I ever could quote
while mainstream media has propagated
the idea that cannabis expands the mind
and enhances creativity our results show
the link between cannabis and creativity
is largely a spous correlation meaning
that it's not the case that cannabis
increases
creativity but and I in I inserted the
the but in this quote
but driven by differences in
personality that are related to cannabis
use for example openness to experience
that are related to both cannabis use
and augmented creativity this is a real
chicken egg argument what do I mean by
that what I mean is this paper finds
that people who are more open to
experience are more likely to use
cannabis and people who use cannabis are
going to be more open to new experiences
and that combination of features
openness to experience and what that
openness to new experiences brings
enhances the convergent and Divergent
thinking that is characteristic of the
creative process so in short cannabis
increases creativity but through changes
in personality that tap into the
creative process rather than directly
impacting the neural circuits that for
instance turn on creativity and I have
to say this study is really important
because by
exploring cannabis users not while under
the influence of cannabis they were able
to tap into this very important what I
believe to be fact because if you think
about a study in which you would have
one group using cannabis and another
group not using cannabis and then you
give them some task that Taps into
creativity you will see effects and very
likely you'll see effects where cannabis
might even increase Divergent convergent
thinking and creativity that those
results have actually been published
many times before but given the varied
effects of cannabis and THC that we
talked about earlier through all that
complex signaling stuff you can imagine
that there will also be other studies
and in fact there are where Divergent
and conversion thinking and creativity
is not assisted by cannabis and might
even be reduced by ingesting cannabis
however if one considers that Divergent
thinking is absolutely crucial to the
creativity process and the range of
things that one will explore will be
enhanced by openness and by reduced
levels of anxiety so a willingness to
explore different options some of which
might seem completely crazy and cannabis
increases the personality types and the
reduces the anxiety that create that
sense of openness well then it makes
perfect sense why cannabis would
increase creativity in certain
individuals but not directly and this
study the one I just referred to which I
should say was published in the journal
Consciousness and cognition and again
we'll provide a link to it did a
wonderful job of teasing out this impact
of cannabis on personality which then
impacts creativity so if somebody asks
you or if you're wondering or if you
feel like cannabis increases creativity
in some sense the answer is yes but the
answer is yes because of the ways that
it shapes openness to new ideas and can
should say can because not in everybody
but can in some individuals reduce
anxiety what this means is that if you
are somebody who experiences anxiety
or increased levels of focus from
Cannabis regardless of the strain and
here I have to imagine people are
exploring different strains if they're
exploring them at all exploring
different modes of delivery smoking or
ingestible Etc if you're somebody who
experiences anxiety it's very likely
that you won't have the increased
openness to experience and Divergent
ideas that will facilitate creativity
however if you are somebody who achieves
heighten levels of relax ation and
reduce levels of anxiety from Cannabis
regardless of which strain we happen to
be talking about well then yes it will
position you to be in a heightened state
of creativity at least as defined by
convergent and Divergent thinking one of
the more characteristic or I should say
stereotype qualities of people that
smoke a lot of marijuana or ingest
cannabis through other means is their
changed patterns of speech in fact
there's a kind of a lore in the clinical
realm that you can predict or get some
strong indication as to whether or not
somebody is a cannabis user pot smoker
based on their voice and their
particular tone of voice and their lack
of inflection there's a lot of
speculation here but fortunately it's
been studied so I'd like to discuss now
whether or not cannabis can impact
patterns of speech both acutely meaning
while under the influence of cannabis
and over time in chronic cannabis users
and when I say chronic cannabis use I
want to be very specific what I mean
chronic cannabis use does not
necessarily mean that people are smoking
cannabis or ingesting cannabis every day
although certainly if they are that
qualifies as chronic use chronic use is
regular use over time of anywhere from
twice a week or more so using cannabis
once a month would not be considered
chronic use even if it's for many many
years using cannabis or ingesting
cannabis in some way or form twice a
week would be considered chronic use
then of course some of you out there are
going to ask me to SPL hairs and say
well what what if somebody uses it twice
a month well listen uh the clinical
literature and the scientific literature
don't get that specific and of course
there are an infinite number of ways to
arrange one's uh cannabis use everything
from zero none at all to constantly
every day all day and everywhere in
between but think of chronic use as
twice a week or more think of occasional
use as less than that and realize that
within the realm of qu chronic use
Excuse me that or more can be anywhere
from twice a week to every day to just
in the evenings
Etc the effects of chronic use of
cannabis as I just defined it on speech
have been
studied because of this characteristic
drawing out of certain syllables a
slowing of speech and in many cases a
total change or alteration in the way
that people speak and use language both
when when under the influence of
cannabis and when not under the
influence of cannabis if they are
chronic users and here we really want to
distinguish between THC and CBD and just
make it really simple and say that CBD
is not responsible for most of the
psychoactive effects of cannabis whereas
THC is and again the ratio of CBD to THC
is going to be relevant there but let's
just think about cannabis and THC as one
and the same for this portion of the
discussion realizing that of course they
are not exactly the same thing there's
an excellent study entitled adults with
history of recreational cannabis use
have altered speech production we will
provide a link to that first author Adam
vogle really like this um paper it was
published in the journal drug and
alcohol dependence we will provide a
link to it for you if you'd like to
peruse it in more detail the title
itself adults with a history of
recreational cannabist use have altered
speech production uh tells you pretty
much everything you need to know except
there's important Nuance in here because
as I mentioned earlier people who smoke
sativa varieties of cannabis often times
will become more talkative much more
talkative however whether or not people
tend to rely on sativa cannabis use or
indicia cannabis use there is a very
consistent finding that people who are
chronic users again twice a week or more
recreational use or medicinal use
undergo pretty profound changes in the
way that they they speak but in a very
specific set of ways now first of all
the changes in speech shouldn't surprise
us at all because both sativa varieties
of cannabis and Inda varieties of
cannabis impact those brain centers
involved in movement the basil ganglia
remember the go no-o circuitry the
circuitry that makes you want to do
things and the circuitry that makes you
want to withhold action and it tends to
shift the body and brain toward more
inaction
and cannabis impacts CB1 receptors in
the cerebellum which is involved in
motor planning execution and balance so
regardless of whether or not people are
using cannabis of the sativa or the
indicia variety there are disruptions in
motor circuitry and as you may have
heard if you listen to our episode with
Rockefeller Professor Dr Eric Jarvis who
works on speech and movement speech is
movement right the movements of the
mouth the movements of the hands those
are intimately related in terms of our
speech in fact the centers of the brain
involved in hand movements are part of
the speech areas and vice versa Eric
actually pointed out that if you put
your hands behind your back provided you
normally do have use of your hands it
actually will reduce your fluidity of
speech and so I'm going to put them back
in front of me
now the point is smoking marijuana or
consuming marijuana by
edible changes one's speech and does it
in a very specific way and in this study
by Adam Vogel and colleagues they
explored a huge different variety of
aspects of speech and this can be done
using spectral processing which is you
know fancy nerd speak for looking at how
much inflection there is or looking at
how long people hold vowels or
consonants Etc and again these are
people not under the influence of
cannabis but rather people who tend to
be under the influence of cannabis when
not participating in the study in other
words chronic recreational Cannabis
users so what are the two major shifts
that canab causes on our patterns of
speech well the first one is a change in
what's called spectral tilt and that's
fancy nerd speak for vocal effort and
intensity so I'm not a pot smoker I
confess um but if I were to say the
sentence vocal effort and intensity are
important components of speech that's
the way I would say that sentence if I
was striving to enunciate very carefully
and to Accent certain words and
syllables
a pot smoker or somebody who uses
recreational Cannabis fairly often would
have reduced spectral tilt AKA vocal
effort and intensity and might say
spectral tilt is vocal effort and
intensity and it differed between groups
and appeared to change in line with the
duration of abstinence from cannabis use
that I think is not a far cry from the
change in spectral tilt that they
observed here in addition there are
changes in verbal timing that is
pronunciation of words and accenting
particular syllables of words in people
that consume cannabis or smoke cannabis
so rather than emphasize particular
words within a sentence so again I'll
just use a sentence from the paper so
that you can gain more knowledge from
the paper cannabis and I'll say it the
way that I would say it since I'm not a
cannabis user cannabis marijuana is the
most commonly used illicit drug in the
world with a pro IM 4% of adults aged 15
to 64 years reporting recent use and the
citation is from the United Nations
office on drugs and crime 2019 so that
would be the way that I would typically
read that sentence and having gone into
the data on this paper and of course
evaluated references they're in and
listen to some of the spectral analysis
that they include as data you can
literally go into these papers online
and hear recordings of people who are
cannabis users or non-cannabis users and
I'll try and give you a a clear sense
without picking an extreme example of
how somebody who's a a fairly consistent
or even occasional cannabis user might
read that very same
sentence cannabis marijuana is the most
commonly used illicit drug in the world
with approximately 4% of adults age 15
to 64 years reporting recent use and the
citation comes from the United Nation
office on drugs and crime
2019 now you'll notice that wasn't a
dramatic difference and of course I
could have taken the Liberty to pick an
extreme example of the sort that they
did occasionally observe in evaluating
subjects for this paper I could have
said something like cannabis marijuana
is the most commonly used elicited drug
but frankly that would have been
selecting an outlier example and I don't
want to do that I don't want to skew the
data as they say rather if you heard the
first time I read the sentence and the
second time I read the sentence what's
mainly different is the difference in
the amount of enunciation and accenting
of particular words and symbols within a
sentence so the total content that's
delivered is exactly the same and while
I wasn't measuring my Pace the overall
rate of communication is essentially the
same but there's less sort of lilting
and falling of the voice and less
accenting that's the major consistent
effect of cannabis use now of course
there are examples of people who are
using a lot of cannabis and it impacts
brain centers involved in movement and
speech so much so that they do have the
really drawn out kind of N and often
times this will be detected in the laugh
you know there's this sort of
stereotypical Stoner laugh as it
sometimes called rather than say or
that's a fake laugh obviously um it's
hard to make myself laugh if something's
not actually funny enough to think of
something funny when people say like
that's a bit more of the way I might
laugh like sort of the inspiratory laugh
um or the which is expor laugh people
who use cannabis chronically will often
do the right which is sort of the back
of the throat it's sort of this the um
it's neither inspetor nor expor laugh
and believe it or not there's an entire
literature on inspetor inhaling versus
expor laughs and there's also a
literature on cannabis altering the
pattern of inspetor and expor laughs it
almost sounds like a sarcastic laugh
when in fact they may not be feeling
sarcastic at all and I have a very close
friend and colleague who's a phenomenal
neurosurgeon and neuroscientist by the
name of Dr Eddie Chang he's the chair of
neurosurgery at UCSF and his
and him are expert in the study of
Neuroscience controlling language and
speech and he often tells me that he can
predict with almost certainty whether or
not somebody is a regular cannabis user
based not just on the patterns of speech
that they use but even just by recording
specific neurons in their brain that
underly the laugh reflex and certain
patterns of speech so this idea that
cannabis use changes your ability to
speak can enunciate clearly does appear
to be true and The Stereotype that
cannabis use tends to create more of a
draw or kind of a um if you will a
laziness in the laugh and some of the
reflexive enunciations that people use
does also appear to be true and I say
all that of course with the caveat that
many people out there will know
individuals or perhaps you yourselves
are individuals that may use cannabis
but that have incredible articulation
probably better than mine and better
than other people out there who speak
for a living so I'm not saying that 100%
of people that use cannabis regularly
can't speak well or clearly that's
simply not what I'm saying and I don't
want to communicate that idea at all but
it is the case that people who are
regular cannabis users are impacting the
neural circuits involved in movement
movement also controls speech and
therefore cannabis is impacting speech
now I'd like to turn our attention to
whether or not cannabis can increase
sexual activity sexual desire and or
sexual function so we're going to be
talking about libido about sexual desire
and about effects of cannabis on
hormones and while this might sound like
a discussion that's purely oriented
towards recreational use of cannabis
that is people using cannabis to in
heighten or increase their sense of
arousal for sexual activity it actually
Ventures into the clinical realm too
meaning there have been excellent pure
reviewed studies that I'll describe to
you in a moment exploring the use of
cannabis or THC more specifically for
something called hypoactive sexual
desire disorder which refers to a
persistent or recurrent deficiency or
absence of sexual fantasies and thoughts
Andor desire for or receptivity to
sexual activity this is a disorder that
is fairly common anywhere from 6 to 9%
of people both males and females it used
to be considered higher prevalence in
females than in males but now those
numbers seem to be evening out so
basically there are anywhere from 6 to
9% of people out there who have very
diminished sexual desire and so a number
of those people are interested in
figuring out ways to increase their
amount of sexual desire and of course
there are people in the general
population who may not have hyperactive
sexual desire disorder who are
interested in using cannabis
recreationally in order to increase
their desire for or their experience of
sexual activity now first we have to
acknowledge that sexual desire and
activity is a complex set of processes
meaning it's not just one event sex the
verb it involves arousal it involves sex
the verb and it involves a whole set of
mindsets and emotional states that vary
tremendously between individuals but
once again we can distill out a few
basic principles and I should emphasize
these are by no means the only chemicals
and neural circuits involved in the
sexual Arc as we'll call it desire the
act of sex Etc but they are to it they
are vital to it they would be considered
what I would call necessary but not
sufficient okay so there'll be other
chemicals involved too but the main
chemicals and neural circuits are those
involved in dopamine so the so-called
molic reward pathway in particular a
brain structure called nucleus accumbens
which we'll talk about more in a moment
is vital to all motivated behaviors and
to the seeking out of all particular
types of pleasurable experiences and sex
is no exception so when we hear that the
nucleus accumbens is activated that
almost always means that dopamine has
been released in that area and other
areas of the brain and body and we can
consider dopamine Central to the desire
for pursuit of and act of sex in
addition to that there are molecules
like oxytocin which involved in parir
bonding and they're going to be neural
circuit specific to the oxytocin
circuitry but in terms of sexual arousal
and sexual behavior it's really the
dopamine pathway in this nucleus
accumbens which are especially vital
that allows us to address the question
does cannabis increase decrease or have
no effect on sexual desire and or the
ability to have sex and therein we will
find some very interesting answers
because once again it will point to the
fact that the effects of cannabis on
different individuals can be highly
Divergent meaning in one set of
individuals cannabis will make them far
less anxious and in another set of
individuals the same strain of cannabis
at the same dosage will make them
extremely anxious the same can be said
also of sexual activity and this was
beautifully Illustrated in the context
of sexual desire in the journal
psychopharmacology in a paper published
in 2017 the title of this paper is
individual prolactin reactivity
modulates response of nucleus accumbent
to erotic stimula during acute cannabis
intoxication an fmri pilot study so I'll
give a little bit of um definition to
some of the terms in the title that will
make it easier for you to understand the
paper but then I'll just March through
the results because they are very
straightforward and easy to understand
and very interesting fmri is just
functional magnetic resonance imaging so
basically subjects in this experiment
came into the laboratory they were
either people who had not used cannabis
before or who had used cannabis before
they were placed into a brain scanner
one of these fmri devices it looks like
a tube that people are backed up into on
um and then they can view images in
there and their brain can be imaged
without having to remove any skull or
drill into the skull no
neurosurgery the participants in this
study were grouped according to whether
or not they had experienced any
aphrodesiac effects during the
intoxication with cannabis so that would
be the first group group a they
literally called it group a for
aphrodesiac and then the second group
and this is the only thing I don't like
about this study is rather than call it
Group B they called them group Nona
which is uh just gets a little confusing
so I'll try and simplify all this there
are two groups and one group
experiences sexual arousal when under
the influence of cannabis THC
specifically the other group does not
and it turns out this is a very commonly
observed Divergence of effects of
cannabis some people experience a lot of
sexual arousal from Cannabis and THC in
particular and some people do not in
fact they experience suppression of
sexual desire and it's always been a
little bit mysterious as to why that is
well in this study they
showed people in both groups erotic
images and they measured sexual arousal
through a number of different measures
we won't go into all that it was largely
subjective there have been other studies
where they've actually measured things
like erections in males and vaginal
lubrication in females the sort of
so-called autonomic responses that
people can't lie about um so to speak
and that
tap into other aspects of the so-called
sexual arousal process in this study
they also took blood samples to look at
the concentration of things like
cannabinoids so this is a really nice
study in that they actually measured how
much THC was in the bloodstream in
different individuals who reacted to
these erotic stimuli in different ways
and they measured hormones namely
cortisol which is a stress hormone which
tends to negatively correlate with
sexual arousal and
prolactin and the interesting takeaway
from the study was that for people and
it didn't matter if it was males or
females CU they looked at
both for people that experienced
elevated prolactin levels under cannabis
intoxication that's how they refer to it
people take cannabis they measured
prolactin some people had elevated
prolactin some people did not okay for
the people that had elevated levels of
prolactin they did not observe
activation of brain areas associated
with sexual arousal in this case the
right nucleus accumbent so you have two
nucleus aumi I guess they' be called one
on each side of the brain and the
activation of that brain area is
strongly associated with dopamine and
with arousal and sexual arousal in
particular in this study and if people
had elevated prolactin they did not
experience activation of nucleus
accumbens and they did not report
feeling sexually aroused to those
pictures at least not to the same degree
as the other group so some people's
prolactin levels go up when they ingest
cannabis and those people do not achieve
elevated levels of sexual arousal when
under the influence of cannabis even if
they're looking at erotic
stimuli that makes sense because
prolactin is mutually inhibitory as we
would say it's kind of in a push pull
with dopamine when dopamine levels are
high prolactin levels tend to be low and
when prolactin levels are high dopamine
levels tend to be low the other group
so-called group a that experienced
elevated levels of sexual arousal when
under the influence of cannabis and
viewing erotic
stimuli that group did not show elevated
levels of prolactin in response to
cannabis so this I believe resolves a
long-standing
controversy in the field which is does
cannabis increase sexual arousal well it
depends if you fall into the category of
person who has elevated levels of
prolactin in response to cannabis then
no actually cannabis will suppress your
sexual response and desire
if however you are in the category of
person that does not have elevated
levels of prolactin in response to
cannabis well then erotic stimula can
potentially and in fact do increase
sexual arousal in the majority of
individuals now many of you are probably
hearing this and wondering whether or
not you fall into one category of
individual or another and the key thing
here to understand is that levels of
prolactin heading into the study did not
predict did not predict whether or not
people would respond to cannabis with
elevated or non-elevated or even reduced
levels of sexual arousal it was whether
or not people's prolactin levels went up
or did not go up that predicted whether
or not their levels of arousal would go
up or not so if you are somebody who yes
does experience elevated levels of
sexual arousal and function when under
the influence of cannabis then it's very
likely that cannabis does not increase
your prolactin levels at least not to a
significant degree while you're taking
it and if you are somebody who does not
experience increases in sexual arousal
or function or even diminished sexual
arousal and function when under the
influence of cannabis it's very likely
the Cannabis is increasing your levels
of prolactin unfortunately there's no
way to know or predict based on some
other measure I think the outcome
measure that is increased or not
increased or even reduced sexual arousal
is really the litmus test by which one
can figure that out while we are on the
topic of the effects of cannabis on
sexual function and hormones like
prolactin it's probably worth mentioning
the Cannabis has been studied
extensively for its impact on other
hormones and we can summarize those
literature in the following way and here
I'm referring to studies only on adults
we'll talk about the developing brain
and body in a little bit but it is very
clear that
smoking cannabis increases prolactin
levels very very clear now you might say
I didn't you just describe a study about
a set of individuals whose prolactin
didn't increase and as a consequence
their level of sexual desire went up yes
there are a subset of individuals for
which that's true but people who smoke
cannabis do experience increases in
prolactin and that's especially
pronounced in people that smoke cannabis
more than twice a week so this is
important prolactin as I referred to
earlier is reciprocal or mutually
inhibitory with dopamine one way to
think about this is in the context of
the normal sexual arousal Arc whereby
dopamine is increased when people are
sexually aroused but then after
orgasm both in males and females
prolactin levels Skyrocket this is
actually what creates the so-called
refractory period for males during which
they cannot achieve erection again for
some period of time that relates
directly to how long long the prolactin
increase lasts okay prolactin is also
increased in new parents of all species
including humans which at least
partially explains some of the reported
or typical reductions in sexual desire
and activity in new parents now there
are other reasons for that too sleep
deprivation but nature is smart and has
arranged a set of hormones and circuits
in the brain and body such that when
tending to a newborn is the most
important thing it relegates it reduces
the importance
of producing more children and sexual
activity in those moments and days and
weeks sometimes longer so when prolactin
levels are up dopamine levels are down
smoking marijuana more than twice a week
significantly increases prolactin there
are fewer studies exploring whether or
not edible marijuana has the same effect
although the preliminary evidence
suggests that it does not get into this
in a lot more detail in a future episode
all about hormone
with Dr Kyle Gillette who's been on this
podcast before but he verified that and
my read of the literature is that the
edible forms of marijuana cannabis
probably again let's put an asterisk
next to this but it appears do not have
as much of a prolactin elevating effect
and therefore not as much of a dopamine
suppressive effect and therefore not as
much of a testosterone suppressing
effect and that gets the issue of
testosterone does cannabis marijuana
suppress testosterone and this is a very
controversial literature and here's
why some studies say yes it suppresses
testosterone in males and females and
keep in mind that testosterone and
females is vital for libido and
cognitive function cellular repair Etc
so it's not just important in males of
course however other studies say that
cannabis does not decrease testosterone
and it seems to depend on whether or not
the Cannabis is brought into the system
by way of smoking or edible and it seems
to depend on whether or not the Cannabis
is used chronically by an individual or
acutely and here I just want to zoom out
and say that studies on cannabis or
drugs of any kind in humans are really
complicated if you think about it
someone has to come into the laboratory
and let's say you want to study chronic
cannabis use well you can't keep them in
the laboratory all the time so you have
to rely on their self-report of how
often they use cannabis and in what form
and you can't really control from one
individual to the next of how much
cannabis in THD bring into their system
one person might smoke cannabis out of a
bong and take big deep you know lungs
full
bong inhalations or such other people
might smoke joints other people might
use Edibles it becomes very complicated
to know what people have done and that
they're reporting it accurately and no
joke here especially if marijuana is
impacting the short-term memory systems
they might not actually remember they
might not be tracking it that well
contrast that with studies of the acute
use of cannabis and THC where people who
are not regular users come into the
laboratory and now suddenly with
institutional guidelines and safety
Protocols are under the influence of THC
in cannabis well now you're dealing with
a person who may not have experience
with the elevated heart rate and blood
pressure that's characteristic of
cannabis because it is a stimulant at
least when initially brought into the
system even if it might eventually lead
to relaxation so now you got someone
who's anxious or somebody who's not
anxious who's deeply relaxed and you're
trying to study these effects so it's a
it's a moving Target of sorts it's very
complicated to study marijuana and
cannabis and its various derivatives in
this way now you can probably appreciate
better as to why there's so little
Nuance data about sativa versus indica
versus different ratios of CBD and THD
it's really difficult to do these
studies in the first place that said the
general rules are smoking marijuana
increases prolactin in men and women
which will reduce dopamine and
testosterone smoking marijuana
chronically meaning more than twice a
week
does appear to reduce testosterone
significantly and Elevate so-called
aromatase enzymes which are the enzymes
that convert testosterone into estrogen
this might partially explain the effect
that occurs in about 35% of males which
is gynocomastia which is a development
of breast tissue in males in particular
young males who have elevated levels of
testosterone or who are taking exogenous
testosterone for testosterone
replacement therapy or if they're taking
high doses anabolic steroids or or in
females the increase in breast size
which is due to additional estrogen from
testosterone converted to estrogen so it
does appear that marijuana and cannabis
increase estrogen reduce testosterone
increase prolactin especially in chronic
users now I'm sure that some people out
there will say well their testosterone
levels are exceedingly high or they are
fine meaning the constellation of
symptoms associated with low
testosterone and Elevate estrogen are
not present in them that probably means
one of two things or both they either
had elevated levels of testosterone to
begin with so their ceiling was higher
so bringing it down didn't have that
much of effect or that they have very
low levels of aromatase in their system
there some anecdotal evidence that
smoking particular parts of the
marijuana plant in particular the seeds
can
increase Aroma taste and the conversion
of testosterone to estrogen I think in
the old days the lore was the seeds make
you sterile and I think that was related
to what I just told you this increase in
conversion of testosterone to estrogen
there's a vast literature on the effects
of cannabis on fertility it does seem
yes it does seem to alter sperm motility
and sperm health and function when taken
chronically more than twice per week in
particular high doses of high potency
THC this is something we will cover in
far more detail on a future episode all
about fertility and in females there's
an increase in estrogen as a consequence
of smoking marijuana and increasing
prolactin and estrogen in parallel
whether or not that's detrimental isn't
clear although I point out that elevated
estrogen and prolactin can be Associated
again can be Associated not necessarily
and certainly not causitive but can be
associated with elevated levels of or
frequency of breast cancer detection so
cannabis and its effects on hormones are
not without
consequence there are effects of
cannabis on cortis ol in some
individuals it greatly increases
cortisol due to the anxiety and paranoia
it can create and in other individuals
it reduces cortisol again we have these
Divergent effects but I want to be very
clear the effects on prolactin meaning
elevated prolactin the effects on
testosterone meaning at least most
studies point to reduced levels of
testosterone and increased estrogen that
seems to be true for most all
individuals that chronically use
cannabis whereas the effects on cortisol
tend to be Divergent cannabis increases
cortisol in some individuals and
decreases cortisol in others in general
increases in cortisol that are ongoing
are not healthy for us and so on and
then of course there are other effects
on hormones and I'll just Briefly
summarize those that THC in particular
not CBD but THD in particular is known
to be strongly inhibitory for something
called gatot tropin releasing hormone
this is a hormone that's released from
the brain from the hypothalamus that
then feeds onto or I should say signals
to the pituitary gland which is also
near the roof of your mouth a lot of
stuff happening near the roof of your
mouth it turns out biologically and
reduced levels of gonadotropin releasing
hormone caused by cannabis use reduce
levels of LH gluenz hormone and FSH
which reduce levels of testosterone and
sperm production in males and egg health
and ovulation and menstrual function in
females now I'm sure there are a number
of women out there who will say they
have perfectly normal menstrual cycles
despite using cannabis I'm certainly not
going to dispute that but if you are
somebody who's trying to maximize
fertility or regulate or balance
hormones marijuana and cannabis reduces
G&R that is the gatot trop and release
from the hypothalamus and thereby
reduces luteinizing hormone and follicle
stimulating hormone which are released
from the pituitary and travel in the
bloodstream to support normal ovarian
function and health and normal
testicular function in health in female
and males respectively up until now I've
been discussing the biological and
psychological effects of cannabis now
I'd like to shift our attention to some
of the negative health effects of
cannabis and shine light on some of the
individuals or groups out there that
need to be especially wary of and
probably avoid cannabis use entirely
including ingestion of cannabis by way
of edible and I frame things that way
because I think there is an increasingly
large number of people out there that
appre appreciate that smoking tobacco or
smoking cannabis vaping tobacco yes
vaping tobacco or vaping
cannabis each and all have negative
Health consequences on the lungs and on
the so-called endothelial cells of the
body the cells that make up the
vasculature the capillaries and blood
vessels if you don't already know this
I'll make it very clear and I'll make it
very brief whether or not you smoke or
vape to tobacco or cannabis you are
severely impairing the function of
endothelial cells that make up the
capillaries and blood vessels of your
brain and body and that is known to
decrease cognitive capacity over time
increase probability of Strokes severely
impact lung function and also lead to
things like peripheral neuropathies it
leads to sexual dysfunction because of
lack of blood flow to the genitals can
lead to other aspects of reproductive
damage including to the ovaries and
testies essentially there is no other
way to State it except that smoking and
vaping have negative Health consequences
that are independent of the
substances that people are trying to get
into their bloodstream by smoking or
vaping so people smoke and vape tobacco
and people smoke and vape cannabis and
in both cases if we just set aside the
Direct effects of tobacco and the Direct
effects of cannabis
we can confidently say that the process
of smoking of inhaling smoke into the
lungs and yes also vaping bringing the
chemicals that transport nicotine or in
this case cannabis into the lungs by way
of vaping are both severely detrimental
to endothelial cells I think a few years
ago when vaping wasn't as prominent
there was this question and this idea
that maybe vaping was going to be far
healthier or at least not as bad as
smoking but now we can see a huge number
of negative health effects of vaping
some of which are distinct from the
effects of smoking so if you'd like more
information on smoking versus vaping
please see the episode that I did on
nicotine we will also do an entire
episode all about vaping in the future
but there's really no way to slice it
and dice it or candy coat it the fact of
the matter is that smoking has clear and
severe negative Health consequences
regardless of whether or not you're
smoking tobacco or cannabis
THC and vaping has negative Health
consequences whether or not you're using
the Vape to bring in nicotine or THC or
some combination of THC and CBD that's
simply the way it is with that said now
I'd like to focus our attention on the
Direct effects that cannabis has either
by way of THC action or by way of CBD
action in terms of positive or negative
health effects on the brain and body and
we're going to explore that first as a a
function of age and the reason we're
going to do that is related to a fact
that I mentioned at the beginning of the
episode which is that the
CB1 and the CB2 receptors the two
receptors for cannabis to which THC and
CBD and CBN and all other psychoactive
compounds and cannabis bind to to have
their actions are present throughout
development believe it or not they are
present very soon after conception and
the CB1 and CB2 re ctors actually play a
critical role in the development of the
fetus now you might wonder why that is
because of course the developing fetus
doesn't necessarily expect to see
cannabis or to be exposed to cannabis
THC and CBD but as you
recall endogenous cannabinoids are
present in the adult brain and body and
endogenous canabo it turns out are also
present in the developing fetus in fact
endogenous cannabinoids are present at
much greater levels in the developing
fetus than they are after a child is
born and levels of endogenous canabo
actually go down across development I
find this really interesting what this
means is that endogenous canabo and
activation of the CB1 and CB2 receptors
are an integral part of neural
development and this is going to become
especially relevant in considering
whether or not pregnant mothers should
or should not use cannabis or CBD and it
also points to some very interesting
biology
in terms of how the brain develops and
how the body develops now the
development of the brain and nervous
system and body is a fascinating and
vast literature certainly far too vast
to cover in today's episode especially
at this late hour as it were but we will
have a future episode all about brain
development in terms of the effects of
cannabis it's sufficient to say that
cannabinoid receptors are present and
active in the developing fetus they are
present and active in the newborn they
are present and active in adolescence
and across that time from conception
until adolescence endogenous canabo are
mainly responsible for the actions of
those canabo
receptors during that time the
cannabinoid receptors are having very
specific effects that are distinct from
their effects later in life and those
effects can largely be explained in
terms of neural development again we
don't have time for an entire lecture on
this
now but during development
your body was a collection of a bunch of
cells it's actually called a blastula
which means a ball of cells and then
those cells actually have to grow out
connections and duplicate themselves and
this is a very interesting process by
which neurons initially are situated far
apart and then they grow out connections
and make contacts with one another they
remove certain connections depending on
what kind of Life events you're exposed
to if you have a wonderful event early
in life or a traumatic early life those
connections change
Etc the important point for to today's
discussion is that the CB1 receptor in
particular is expressed on every neuron
in the developing brain and has been
shown to be important for every aspect
of neural development from the
proliferation of cells meaning getting
enough cells to create a brain to the
outgrowth of the so-called axons the
little wires that connect up neurons
with one another to the steering the
direction that which those axons go in
development which is essential and
even so far as to explain the
connections that form between neurons
the so-called synapses and then how
those synapses work so the basic
statement here is that endogenous
cannabinoids and cv1 receptor activation
are critical for every aspect of brain
wiring and
development with that in mind the
statement I'm about to make is
absolutely terrifying at least to me and
frankly it should be terrifying to you
as well and the statement is the current
statistics
on cannabis use in pregnant mothers is
absolutely shocking the most recent
survey of pregnant mothers in the United
States show that
15% 15 15% of pregnant mothers report
using cannabis in some form or another
either smoking it or more likely
ingestion of an
edible because they are aware of the
negative effects of smoking on the
developing fetus ingestion of an edible
to increase THC Andor CBD during
pregnancy which to me I have to say as a
developmental neurobiologist is frankly
it's a it's scary it's absolutely scary
because that CB1 receptor is not just a
minor player in neural development it is
absolutely Central to every critical
aspect of brain wiring and development
now the long-term implications or even
the short-term implications of this 15%
of mothers self-reporting the use of
cannabis at some point during pregnancy
are not yet known this is as we would
say an experiment that's ongoing but I'd
be remiss if I didn't point out these
data and just implore you please please
please if you are pregnant or
considering getting pregnant you're a
cannabis user whether or not you're
using Edibles if you're a CBD
user please do whatever is necessary to
not ingest cannabis or smoke cannabis or
ingest CBD during pregnancy now there
may be certain clinical indications by
which your physician
and your OBGYN and your the pediatrician
that will eventually be the pediatrician
for your your child will prescribe CBD
although it's hard to imagine what those
are I contacted a number of different
pediatricians and OBGYN and not a single
one said they would ever suggest and in
fact would strongly discourage their
patients from using cannabis during
pregnancy but I think that the Advent of
edible forms of cannabis and and the
combination of THC and CBD in certain
products and the fact that most people
view CBD as safer because it does not
include as or does not have I should say
the psychoactive effects that THC does
has led to a situation where where you
have 15% of pregnant mothers using
cannabis at some point during pregnancy
and maybe even frequently throughout
pregnancy and the effects on the
developing fetus are completely unknown
but recall that cannabis and THC and CBD
out compete meaning they Park in the
receptor for endogenous cannabinoids and
prevent endogenous cannabinoids from
having their normal level and pattern of
action so this is absolutely critical I
cannot encourage you enough or rather I
should say I cannot discourage enough
the use of cannabis and any related
compounds in cannabis edible or smoked
certainly not smoked but even edible
during pregnancy and certainly in
breastfeeding lactating mothers the same
is also true recall that cannabis and
THC and CBD are incredibly lipophilic
they they are fat soluble and they get
into cells ve very readily and they
cross the blood brain barrier they cross
the blood placental barrier so when I
encountered this statistic I I had to
kind of wipe my eyes a few times I could
not believe it and yet I crosschecked
that number with a few other studies a
few others have come in a little bit
lower at you know somewhere like 13 to
14% And a few have come in a little bit
higher but the average of 15% is both
striking and shocking so I don't know
how to make the message more clear I
hope that is clear please do not use any
cannabis THC or related things including
CBD smoked or edible if you're pregnant
lactating Etc now we are at the point
where we need to consider some of the
negative health effects of cannabis that
have been well documented in
peer-reviewed studies and before I do
this I want to return to a point that I
made earlier which is that nothing I am
about to say relates directly to issues
of legality if we consider alcohol for
instance alcohol is legal in most areas
of the world it's certainly legal in the
US and yet there's an age limit for its
use typically it's not available to
people until they're 21 or older it's
not to say that certain people don't use
it before age 21 but it's not legal it
is illegal to buy or possess alcohol
consume alcohol before age 21 and I
think with good reason because the brain
is still
developing likewise we can have a
informed discussion about cannabis and
its various components that can fully
acknowledge the reality which is that
one of the major harms of cannabis in
the past has been the legal
ramifications of cannabis being illegal
I that's a statement that is no longer
controversial and this is not a
discussion about legalization ation or
non- legalization if you look to the
scientific literature the
epidemiological
literature there are wonderful data out
of Carlton University and elsewhere in
Canada showing that you know many of the
negative effects of marijuana and THC
are due to the criminal justice system
itself that is the creation of illicit
drug businesses the creation of
organized crime the creation of a number
of different features related to the
illegality of cannabis and again this
isn't the topic of today's episode but
that should be acknowledged and at the
same time we need to acknowledge that
when a compound a drug or whatever you
want to call it becomes legal there's a
tendency to assume that it's safe and
safe for everybody and with respect to
cannabis and THC and perhaps even CBD
but certainly for
THC and cannabis that's smoked or Vaped
or consumed in edible form that is
simply not the case there are clear data
pointing to negative health effects of
cannabis use and THC use which again is
not to say that there are not positive
effects on mood anxiety pain relief etc
those are out there and they exist and
we will mention some of those of course
and we've talked about some of those
creativity for instance Etc but if we do
not acknowledge the negative health
effects that are documented in the
literature then we are overlooking some
very important data especially as it
relates to the development of psychosis
in certain
individuals so with that said there are
very strong data and I will provide
links to these resources pointing to the
fact that for people who are chronic
users of cannabis that is using it twice
a week or more that over time their
levels of anxiety actually increase and
this is true even for individuals that
are using strains of cannabis that while
under the influence of cannabis reduce
anxiety
over time meaning over the course of 12
or more months there is a well
documented effect of the anxiety relief
that cannabis and THC initially brought
being less and less potent that is
people need to smoke more of it or
ingest more THC in order to achieve the
same level of anxiety relief and in some
cases a switch from anxiety relief to
increase in anxiety and again that's
increasing anxiety not just when the
drug is not being consumed but also
while under the influence of the drug
why would that be we have to go back to
our understanding of the CB1 receptor
and the potency with which THC binds to
that CB1
receptor when THC is brought into the
system over and over again meaning twice
a week or more The Binding of THD that
CB1 receptor eventually causes is a sort
of habituation or attenuation of the
entire process of binding the receptor
and creating the psychoactive effects so
initially it creates anxiety relief but
over time the affinity for the receptor
doesn't change meaning it can still park
in that slot with a lot of affinity a
lot of strength but there are few fewer
receptors available and then the
signaling that's Downstream of those
receptors becomes less and less robust
now this is a topic we didn't get into
in too much detail today because I
didn't want to include even more
biological detail but the CB1 receptor
is a so-called G protein coupled
receptor it that's a mouthful But A G
protein coupled receptor basically is
like a Bucket Brigade so while some
receptors in the brain and body are such
that when something a chemical binds to
them that receptor has a direct action
like it opens and allows stuff to rush
into the cell increases the excitability
of the cell so calleded fast effects
these G protein coupled receptors and
CB1 is a gep protein coupled receptor
they are more like a Bucket Brigade
where they kick off a process through
one molecule that then is handed off to
another molecule that this then is
handed off to another molecule it's a
long chain or Cascade of events that
whose long chains or Cascades of events
have a lot of opportunity for regulation
for adjustment you know receptor systems
in the brain and body especially
receptor systems like the cannabinoid
system that are used to being kind of
tickled not punched you know tickled by
IND enous cannabinoids every once in a
while some binds has an effect but
certainly not bound with Incredible
potency and over and over again as they
are when THC is coming into the system
well those systems eventually over time
they adjust themselves so that the body
and those cells can achieve so-called
homeostasis so when people are using THC
more than twice a week what ends up
happening is those G protein coupled
receptors in the downstream signaling
mechanism start to adjust themselves and
it requires more more and more drug so
either higher dosages or more frequent
use and a lot of the positive effects
the so-called decrease in anxiety
increase Focus increase creativity some
of that starts to WAN it starts to
dissipate and people wonder why they
have to use so much cannabis just to
achieve a fraction of the effect that
they used to be able to achieve with
even a lower dose so anxiety is getting
worse over time and that's anxiety
during the drug use and outside of the
drug use some people work around that or
try to work around that by using varying
strains of cannabis or changing the
pattern of delivery from you know
smoking to vaping or from vaping to
edible and from edible to transdermal
anyway they go through a lot of
gymnastics and writhing and um seeking
but nonetheless anxiety increases over
time also it's very clear that
depression increases over time and
especially this is surprising to me but
especially for individuals that were not
depressed at the outset of their use in
other words they didn't start using
cannabis because they were depressed but
rather the depression starts to emerge
as a consequence of the Cannabis and THC
use so that's serious in fact we now
know based on really solid
epidemiological evidence that depression
is not a strong predictor of seeking out
cannabis it doesn't drive terribly many
people to seek out cannabis use but
cannabis use itself makes people four
times likelier to develop a chronic
major depression so anxiety is
increasing depression is increasing and
this turns out to be especially relevant
important to young people why do I say
that well if you look at the data and
again I think some of the strongest data
or data to come out of the Canadian
system they've done some really
beautiful controlled studies I really
hope to invite some of the uh people who
arranged and ran those studies as guests
onto the hubman Lab podcast but if you
look at the data out of Canada or you
look at some of the data out of Northern
Europe and the US what you find is that
the probability that somebody will use
cannabis and then go on to use it
chronically correlates very strongly
with age so for instance some of the
highest degree of cannabis use is among
individuals 16 to 24 years old in fact
in individuals who are 16 to 24 years
old and in particular in students and
people who are working surprising more
than in unemployed populations being
young 16 to 24 at least to me that's
young and being a student or working
doubles the likelihood that somebody is
going to use cannabis on a regular basis
twice or more per week the typical age
of initiating cannabis use nowadays is
about 19 years old so
18.7 and about 20% of people in that age
bracket of 16 to 24 years old are using
cannabis daily either by vaping by
smoking or by edible that's an enormous
number at least by my read it's an
enormous number and here's why it's a
really serious
concern during the ages of 16 to
24 The canono receptors are still
available they are not being as strongly
driven by endogenous cannabinoids but by
ingestion of
THC and or CBD there are Downstream
effects on the signaling with in those
cells that all the data point to
creating a much much higher likelihood
of developing major depression severe
anxiety or psychosis at later ages so to
be very clear cannabis use between the
ages of 16 to 24 in both males and
females is increasing anxiety increasing
depression in the immediate years and
within the one year's time or so so much
so that people are using the cannabis
ongoing in an attempt to reduce that
anxiety and reduce that depression but
in addition to that the cannabis use and
because of the signaling mechanisms
involved are predisposing those
individuals to psychosis later in life
if you look at individuals who start
using cannabis even younger age 14 or
even as young as 12 the probability of
psychosis later in life in particular
schizophrenic or schizophrenic like
episodes more than doubles so this is a
really serious concern and this is
completely aside from any so-called
positive effects or beneficial effects
of cannabis that people might derive
from occasional use as adults meaning
people older than 25 so for the person
who's older than 25 who you know eats an
edible every once in a while or who
smokes cannabis every once in a while
and you know people love to make the
argument you know it's not as bad as
alcohol right which I frankly is a
terrible argument because if you saw our
episode on alcohol alcohol is pretty bad
um but even so it's just not a good
argument you know saying that something
is good because it's not as bad as
something else is simply just not a good
or valid argument at least not
biologically speaking um the use of
cannabis in young populations is very
strongly predisposing people to
psychotic episodes and we know the
mechanism by which this occurs this is
occurs by a thinning of the so-called
gray matter and it's called gray matter
because with neurons nerve cells they
have a so-called cell body that's the
part that contains the DNA and
manufactures all the neurotransmitters
Etc and those are shipped out to the
other parts of the neuron that include
the axon the wires between axons and
those axons under the microscope because
they have a lot of fatty tissue around
them and this is healthy fatty tissue
that allows electrical transmission to
be fast that fatty tissue th Those
portions of the cells are called white
matter so you have gray matter and white
matter gray matter are the so-called
cell bodies where the DNA and all the
stuff is manufactured White matter are
the sort of the axons or the wires
through which all the key components are
shipped out to the synapse
Etc wonderful data and I do say
wonderful because this is part of a
large-scale Consortium and we will
provide a link to the paper this was
publishing trans translational
Psychiatry just this
year point to the fact that adolescent
cannabis use accelerates the thinning of
the prefrontal cortex and the gray
matter in particular so what this means
is while during normal development the
gray matter the prefrontal cortex and
all the cells there are indeed intended
it's a normal process for it to thicken
and then thin a little bit as
connections are adjusted and people
learn and mature and grow up this is
part of the normal healthy maturational
process independent of cannabis use when
kids because these really are kids use
cannabis and it doesn't matter the mode
of cannabis delivery whether or not it's
vaping or smoking or edible that gray
matter thins at a a much much greater
rate and the reason I like this paper
publish in translational Psychiatry this
year so much is that they link the
amount of cannabis use heavy moderate
light or no cannabis use to the rate of
prefrontal cortical thinning and it's
absolutely clear from these data that
the more often young people meaning
individuals between the age of 14 and 25
the more often they consume or smoke or
vape cannabis the faster and the more
extreme that cortical thinning is and
the cortical thinning is incurring in
exactly the area of the brain that's
involved in planning in control over
one's emotions in reflexes in organizing
one's life in a number of different ways
anywhere from cleaning one's room
literally you know knowing what goes
where to making plans that extend out
through the day through the week through
a year essentially becoming a functional
human being involves using your
prefrontal cortex in a variety of
different contexts and different sort of
time domains the time domain of an hour
the time domain of a day making plans
and being able to execute plans is
fundamental to being a healthy human
being and it's absolutely clear from
these data that the more cannabis one
uses the more impaired those neural
circuits are they simply no other way to
to view these data in fact so much so
that even small amounts of cannabis use
are associated with rates of cortical
thinning and degrees of cortical
thinning that are really detrimental and
concerning for normal cognitive
processes if you were somebody who
smoked marijuana or consumed cannabis in
any form or another during
adolesence does that mean that your
prefrontal cortex can never be rescued
that it can't come back well the short
answer is it probably can be rescued to
some degree it will depend on how much
cannabis you were using and how often
and what strains of cannabus Etc there's
really no traveling back in time as my
graduate advisor used to say you know
time machines are broken at least for
now we don't have time machine so all
you can really do is try and emphasize
first of all quitting
cannabis in any form and focusing on
behaviors that emphasize endothelial
cell blood flow Health to the brain so
that would be cardiovascular
exercise adequate nutrition not smoking
nicotine and there are a number of other
things that one can do we will do an
entire episode all about trying to
reverse the effects of cannabis and
Other Drug use dur adolescence we don't
have time to do a deep dive on that
right now but all the things that
standardize and kind of promote Health
adequate sleep uh good social connection
regular cardiovascular and weight
training exercise Healthy nutrition and
what that represents to you healthy
metabolic function and weight etc those
are all going to facilitate some
recovery of brain function in particular
prefrontal cortical function by way of
all the positive effects that those
behaviors and choices have but with that
said if you are in the age bracket that
I've been referring to this 14 to 25y
old age bracket and you are a occasional
even or chronic cannabis user you should
be very very careful and concerned about
the long-term effects that potentially
have that statement is bolstered by
another statistic which is that unlike a
lot of other
drugs the rate of cannabis use is
strongly related to how dangerous
people perceive cannabis to be now that
might seem obvious on the one hand you
know if you think something is very very
dangerous you would expect that the
probability that somebody would use it
would be very very low and if they think
something is safe the probability would
be high but that isn't necessarily the
case if you think about it cannabis is a
unique instance in which nowadays we are
hearing yes it's becoming legal in a
number of areas and we talked earlier
about why that's probably a good thing
in most circumstances but that we aren't
just hearing that cannabis is safe or
it's not just being implied that
cannabis is safer but many more people
are talking about the positive effects
of cannabis without a lot of discussion
about the negative effects of cannabis
and I realize that saying this is going
to upset some people out there because I
know that there are a number of people
who fought very hard for the
legalization process and I want to
acknowledge that I also want to
acknowledge the many known positive
effects of cannabis in adults with very
occasional use provided it is delivered
safely and in the safe context and
setting and with legality that is
entirely distinct from the issue of
whether or not cannabis is safe for the
developing brain and body again I'm not
demonizing anybody for using cannabis
but I want to make the point very simply
and very directly it is far in way a
different circumstance for the
brain for an individual to be 25 years
or older and using cannabis in whatever
form occasionally or maybe even
frequently than it is for a young person
aged 14 to 25 to be using cannabis
either by smoking or vaping or by edible
or any other form on the brain and body
it's absolutely clear that the brain
continues to develop at least until age
25 and that a huge number of systems
related to mood regulation so-called
executive function the ability to
organize one's thoughts plan and execute
plans essentially to become a functional
human being right that's one portion of
becoming a functional human being but
certainly an essential one all of that
relies on the fine-tuning of this neural
circuitry that we've been talking about
up until now and it's abundantly clear
that cannabis and THC in particular
dramatically disrupt those processes
so if this isn't clear enough just from
my statements I'd like to point to a
particular paper this is one of the more
impactful papers in this area in recent
years this is a paper published in
Lancet psychiatry in
2022 title is Association of cannabis
potency with mental ill health and
addiction a systematic review there are
a number of very important points in
this very fine paper lens at Psychiatry
is one of the Premier Medical journals
out there and they eval valuated a huge
number of studies they actually looked
at more than 4,000 studies they selected
the ones that were only the most
rigorous in terms of study design and
Analysis and rigor of conclusions and
they looked at how early use of cannabis
impacted later probability of
development of psychosis and other
psychiatric conditions and the takeways
from this study are very clear first of
all chronic cannabis use so more than
twice per week has consistently been
associated with mental health disorders
I'm pulling some phrases directly from
the paper heavy Canabis use meaning
cannabis use more frequent than twice
per week has been associated with four
times the risk of psychosis later in
life in particular schizophrenia and
bipolar likee episodes now we've done an
episode on bipolar disorder so-called
bipolar depression we have not yet done
one on schizophrenia but both bipolar
disorder and schizophrenia have a very
very strong genetic component there's a
3030 30 times greater likelihood that
you'll have bipolar disorder if you have
a first relative who has bipolar
disorder and then it's also the case
that using cannabis especially during
adolescence and the teen years and up
until age 25 create a four times greater
risk of psychosis for those that have a
predisposition to bipolar disorder Andor
schizophrenia now I don't hear very much
about this in the media this paper got
some attention and then it sort of uh
got swept away I don't think there was
an intentional sweeping away there's
just a lot of events in the world as you
uh well know but I think it's a
particularly important set of findings
because obviously it in looking at so
many studies it distills out the
strongest findings that are out there
and really pulls the the the consistent
messages that are arriving from all
these different studies and as they
point out and again I'm paraphrasing
here this is the first systematic review
of The Association of canab
potency and all of the data point to a
very clear conclusion which is the more
potent the THC
concentration the higher probability of
developing psychosis or a major
depressive episode or a major anxiety
disorder later in life that should be of
particular concern because we know we
are absolutely clear about the fact that
with the Advent of all these new strains
of cannabis and with the engineering and
availability of cannabis at much higher
potency meaning THC potency the risk of
psychosis is going up and up and is
likely to continue going up unless
something is done to reduce the
frequency of cannabis use to zero
ideally or to very low frequency very
low potency in adolescence and teens and
people age 25 or younger I know a lot of
people don't want to hear this message
because first of all it's alarming and
second of all as I mentioned earlier
the statistics tell us that the greatest
number of people that are starting to
use cannabis are in the age bracket of
16 to
24 many of them are functional in other
areas of life they are students they are
employed
Etc but when you couple that with the
fact that the most frequent adopters of
cannabis use are in this age bracket of
16 to 24 they're twice as likely to use
as other individuals or to start using
cannabis as our other individuals plus
the general perception out there because
of the way that cannabis is discussed in
the media and by sports figures and by
celebrities and by by politicians Etc
that it's not as bad as alcohol and
maybe not that bad and maybe even has
health benefits then you're essentially
setting up a system where young people
are far more likely to adopt and
continue cannabis use without realizing
these serious health consequences that
await them
later with all of that said I of course
again want to acknowledge that
there have been well
demonstrated effects of cannabis for
reducing pain in particular in
chemotherapy and in the context of
reducing nausea in people suffering from
cancer or chemotherapy there is a
well-known effect that one can generally
point to as positive using cannabis for
things like glaucoma for lowering
intraocular pressure and offsetting the
loss of neurons that would lead to
blindness although there are other tools
of course that don't involve cannabis
use that can accomplish that as well
so-called intraocular pressure lowering
drugs or drops there is a list of
probably a dozen or more psychological
and bodily ailments that can be aided by
cannabis use in particular edible
cannabis use of particular
strains of course am going to address
each and every one of those in episodes
where I'm talking for instance about eye
disease about chronic pain I am in no
way shape or form trying to rob the
incredible efforts of the Laboratories
and people that have worked very hard to
study and establish the valid uses of
cannabis for treating various ailments
and that continue to study cannabis in
order to try and amarate the symptoms of
different
ailments but today I really wanted to
emphasize the biology of cannabis some
of the often discussed effects I guess
one could call them postive effects
things like enhance creativity and
really point to the nuance and actually
the Divergence of people who take
cannabis and some experience heighten
levels of creativity and some do not
some people experience heighten levels
of sexual arousal and some people
experience the exact opposite and so on
and so forth rather than focus on all
the potential positive and sort of
emerging positive data about cannabis in
different medical contexts and at the
same time I strongly feel that it's
important to acknowledge the shocking
because there's really no other way to
describe it the shocking effects of
cannabis use on the developing fetus and
the fact that so many pregnant and
lactating mothers are using cannabis I
mean that number 15% still has me you
know dizzy with kind of disbelief and
yet we need to acknowledge this and
address this immediately and I think
it's vital to understand that cannabis
use
through any delivery mechanism smoking
or vaping or edible or
otherwise is very very concerning in
fact dangerous to the developing brain
certainly for the fetal brain and for
the baby brain but also for the
Adolescent brain and for the teen and
young adult brain not just because of
the effects that it can have in the
immediate term those slow creeping
increases in anxiety and depression
brought on by cannabis use but also the
time release if you will on the
development of psychosis and other types
of major psychiatric disorders later in
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