The Dark Truth About The Trump Assassination Attempt - Tim Kennedy

Busy weekend. Busy Busy weekend. Talk to me. How did this happen? Yeah, I think uh I think it's the worst and scariest answer possible. Which which is like a balance of Occam's razor and Hanlon's razor. Um the the first is so obvious about, you know, basically looking for most simplest solution and then even supporting that and not looking for anything further than that. Which leads us into Hanlon's razor, which is um never attribute something to malice when it can be explained with stupidity. And um if I go back I I don't want to start on Saturday because I think that grossly misrepresents the problem. We have to go back 3 years and start looking at what has happened organizationally, what has happened with personnel selection, what has happened with training, what has happened with requirements, um what's happened with authorities, with authorizations, what's happening with the the overall labor force within that specific organization, um the government as a whole, Department of Homeland Security as a whole. Who are the appointees? Who did the appointees then appoint? And then when you take that big huge picture and you then look at the actions on Saturday, which clearly had inept negligent, incompetent, stupid people that did uh an abhorrent dangerous job of doing the one thing, which is keeping their principal alive. They did nothing. There was the only reason that that man is not dead, that the former President Trump is not dead, is because his head at the very last second changed a few degrees and a bullet went past his ear instead of hitting his temple and taking out the back portion of his brain, which is not survivable. That is nothing that anyone else did. That was divine intervention or President Trump's luck. Jesus Christ, you've worked presidential details before, as well, right? So you know that for the people who don't know in what you might consider a more golden era, one that was more competent, just how thorough is the process for this stuff? So what's supposed to be is that this is the most premier security detail on the planet. This is this is the standard that everybody looks to, the competence, the selection, the training, the personnel, um they they have to be because this is the leader of the free world. That is who the American president is. And I'm going to talk about the position, not about any specific president cuz this is not a partisan issue. You know, if you look there there've been um a total of 10 uh sure uh assassinations or assassination attempts on former presidents and 60% of them were Republican, 40% of them were Democrat. So like it's not a partisan issue. Uh like or I had a whole bunch of friends like, "Yeah, why is it always Republicans getting assassinated?" I was like Like I mean it's not always, you know, it's it's um it's it's a dangerous rhetoric and it's in a dangerous idea and it's a social contagion, this thing that is hate when it moves into discourse that is directed in a very un unhealthy way. Um so if we created this like spectrum, this continuum on this Hanlon's razor uh on one side we have this complete negligent, stupid, incompetent, inept, uh ignorant, just unable to do the capab the the job, which is being able to be capable to protect somebody. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum on the the the op the total other end from just being incompetent is complicit. Which is um in cohorts with, which is um enabling. I And using that Hanlon's razor if somebody is so and these are not stupid people um that are running these organizations um that assigned the details to work for the former President Trump. If they are if they are knowingly if they are aware about how dangerously inept they are uh we met we then move into the malice category. Then we move into the complicit category. And that gets like does that mean that this is like a deep state uh like were were they allowing this dude on a roof? I mean well well kind of. Like if they had if they were so undermanned and they were so ill-prepared and they were so untrained and the people that were there were following or hiring with DEI practices and they, you know, like were too overweight to be able to get their their own weapon in their holster, they're the ones that are cowering behind the stage or cowering behind the president while other people that are not even part of that organization are running up the staircase with their guns at the high ready looking out into the audience and towards the direction of the gunfire, completely opposite reactions. It it starts becoming very evident a about where how and how dangerous the situation not just was, but currently is cuz it's not fixed. The same Department of uh the the same Homeland Security directors in place, the same uh Secret Service director is in place. Every single one of um those people that have been hired and trained in the past 3 years are still part of that organization. The group that uh investigated January 6th and then raided the president's own home they're the ones that are doing the investigation around the assassination. Think about that for a second. And the people that are doing that are of the opposing party that's running for president in November. This is wild. Let's go back to sort of what you know about the level of caliber of protection that happened on the day. I've heard that it was more Homeland Security contractors as opposed to Secret Service agents than there should be. I've heard that outside of a hundred and hundreds-ish meter fence, it actually is local law enforcement officers as opposed to the actual Secret Service. What what do you know about the Yeah, man, it is bad is what it is. Um so regardless of uh what personnel from which departments, whether it's state, uh federal, Department of Homeland Security, Secret Service, which is uh county, which is municipal city, ultimately under ICS, this is in um this command system that all goes up to who's in charge, which is the ground force commander. That person is then leveraging and identifying threats like most dangerous course of action, most like most likely course of action. Um they start from the the site surveys that came in before the the former president even got there. They've identified which buildings have line of sight of the president, which ones which ones are in small arms fire, where a drone could be taken off from, which ones have vehicle access, what is an egress route, what is an exfil route, what is their infil route, where is the medical plans place, where are they jamming all all frequencies from, um all of that stuff is done well ahead of time. How long? How how well is well? Um so uh like I was just in France with President Biden's Secret Service detail. Like a month ago. Um like the on this this is uh and they are so good. Uh they are the A-team to to put it mildly. Like the the these all of those men, all of those guys were the best and the brightest. And um and I'm not disparaging the people that were on the ground uh on Saturday because me their heart I bet you you know, if we lined them up right here and I started interrogating them, they're like, "I did my best." And and I believe that. Like they they they truly are public servants. They are trying their hardest with the resources they have, with the training that they have, with the God-given gifts that they and and the the current physical condition that they're in and they were doing the best that they could with what they had. Which just wasn't enough. And um so what I know about on on Saturday was President Trump's campaign has requested time and time again and this is denied by Department of Homeland Security for additional security. Um and it's been and it's been denied. Like I I know which is funny that they're denying it. Like they're denying that Trump's team has requested it because like it's all going to come out, you know, like they have emails. It's so dumb to be like, "Oh yeah, we never we never they never sent a request." Like I mean but but they did did they, you know, like here's an email about it. You know, like them requesting it. And then you gave them a bunch of hacks that don't know how to do their jobs. Um so on Saturday they had the vast majority of the heavy lifting on the labor side was not Secret Service. Um you had municipal local plot law enforcement that this is what's wild, staging area for the local law enforcement was immediately adjacent from the building where the shooter climbed up. Mind's blown. Uh so, you know, the security perimeter, uh, who is doing the who who is allowing people into the venue, who is controlling that the area outside of that that perimeter. Normally, that perimeter is set at least to the bare minimum of explosion and small arms fire. Like, so about 1,500 m. That's normally where that circle is. Um, sometimes it's a little bit more, sometimes it's a little bit less, but generally, that's well within the total protected area. Not 130 m. That's right. That That is an impossibility. There Listen. Zero chance. There is zero chance that everyone on the ground didn't know that that building with the direct line of sight and 100 and I think it was 151 yd from the not the corner, which was 131 yd, but from the top where the guy the shooter took the shot to where the president was standing at that moment was 151 m. But, that every single person on the ground didn't know how much of a liability that building was. No way. How hard is that shot? Dude, my 9-year-old can do 10 out of 10. I bet you you could find every single Texas kid that's So, in the the hunting blinds in Texas, you set up the deer feeders about 150 yd. I hate saying yards. But, 100 Made up units. Yeah, yeah. Um, 150 yd from where the hunters climb up into their little hunting box and then shoot the animals when they go up to to eat the corn or pick up the feed at the end of the day. 9 to 11-year-olds, 7 to 11-year-olds, every single one of them would be able to make that shot. Have you got any idea what the weapon was that the shooter was using? It looks like It looks like an AR. Um, and of course, it it's a This is a really weird thing and I'm not putting on my tin foil hat here. Uh, but photos are disappearing. Um, there were photos that were initially being released and um, both of the shooter, of him on top of the roof, clear pictures of the weapon, uh, and I can't you know, there there was so much happening. I just walked in I was at a military shooting range when um, somebody walked to their car and we were running like hammer drills. Like, this blister is from the trigger guard of a rifle as I shooting a couple of thousand rounds this weekend. And uh, one of the dudes walks to the car and and he's like, "Somebody just tried to assassinate President Trump." And this is all special operations guys. And all of us like, "All right, you know, whatever. Last time that happened was 1981." And they're like, "No, no, I'm serious." So, like, we're out in the middle of nowhere on a military shooting range and so, you know, like, we're trying to drive back. I'm getting information. I'm seeing pictures and I'm seeing posts and like, you remember it was like just Fog of war. easy of Well, some of the stuff I saw, I can't find anymore. Like, it's it's there there's accounts that I that I know I saw it on, no that account doesn't even exist anymore. And uh, Very interesting. Okay, so the the thing that I'm most interested in learning from you, given that you are Green Beret special forces sniper, a lot of time around firearms, and have done this from a presidential detail, the specifics around the shooter on top of the roof, how he gets up there, how he isn't seen, and then the response specifically from the Secret Service snipers. That Can you just game out sort of what you think happened, why why they seem to hesitate, why they seem to flinch, who shot first? Have Have you been able to work out any of that? Yeah. Yeah, quite quite a bit of it. Um, I was actually like taking some notes about it, trying to get my head wrapped around what seems like such an impossibility. And um, so, this is the You see this? Mhm. All right. Um, I'll go the other way. There we go. Over here is where the president former president was standing and this is the negative pitch roof. So, he climbed up here. There's a ladder right there and he climbed up on top and then clambered over to here. Um, back behind that that parking lot back there is the staging area for the local law enforcement. So, negative pitch roof roof looks like this, right? Dude gets up on a ladder, climbs up on top of the roof. The fact that this building has a ladder and has a negative sloped roof hiding the person on the back side. So, uh, uh, a sector stick sketch, which would have a range card, every counter sniper that is put in a position like that has this this diagram. And on it, it has the buildings, it has distances, you have target reference points, you have um, uh, distance. So, like you you have pre-assigned distances, so you know what adjustments to you need to make for every single shot from your left to right limit within your sector of fire. Um, and on that range card, there is a gigantic X, which is that specific building because the security detail this that did the survey of the area would have marked that this building has a ladder and that this building, which is in small arms fire, which this building has direct line of sight to the podium. There's We know that that counter sniper would have had that on his range card. Um, in his sector sketch. And this supposedly 20-year-old walks around the back side of this building, goes to this ladder, gets up on top of this roof. Just to interject there, the it seems like the ladder is already there. He didn't carry it in. It's like a fixed to the back of the building or whatever, right? Okay. Yeah, so there's two metal buildings and there's like this little valley between the two, um, which is ominously protected from most uh, observation angles besides uh, really just one direction. So, like, and and it's receded from the rest of the open space. All of the people at the rally saw this this 20-year-old walk up, clamp with a rifle, start clambering up this building and for 4 minutes, they're screaming for law enforcement to come over. And which one of them finally does, goes up this up this ladder, gets on top of the sloped roof, and the sniper's on the opposite end. He's over here. And as this guy's climbing up this this roof, he cannot be seen until his head comes over like the prolongation, like the top of the crest of that roof. So, it's it's it's actually a perfect location for an assassin to go in position, which is why it's so insanely believable that everyone didn't know about that roof. Once he gets up there, um, and people have been screaming that there's a guy with a gun over there, a law enforcement officer goes up, he climbs up the ladder, he takes a peek, the kid with the gun turns around, sees the cop, the cop jumps back down, gets scared from the kid with the gun, the kid turns back around, comes back and starts slinging some rounds towards the former president. So, you think that the impetus for the shooter to begin firing was that he was stumbled upon by a local law enforcement officer? Yep. I think that's where the shots were rushed. And and he shot so fast and that's why there was such confusion. So, if you go back to that kind of like instant command system, um, you you do have one person in charge, but you have multiple organizations on a bunch of different frequencies of radio. I was going to say that communication from law enforcement to homeland to special That's right. Okay. Yeah, so Department of Homeland Security, um, the you got like mall guards that are using little Motorola radios or maybe they're like texting each other. Then you got local local law enforcement, then you have county law enforcement, then you have state law enforcement. All of them They're all on different frequencies. All of them Usually, you take like one person uh, that is from the command organization and you embed them with the other organizations so that that person can be like the conduit and continuity between that unit's communication back to the instant commander. That's normally what happens, but ultimately, you end up with a game of telephone that takes a few seconds for that information to get circulated around. Obviously, now if we switch from where the the assassin's building is over to the counter sniper team, you could see for good 40 seconds, they have directed all of their attention towards the shooter's building, towards the would-be assassin's building. They're looking at it and he's doing the super amateur thing where he's coming off his glass. He's So, just before before you even do that, who is it that's going to be up there? Is that a spotter and a shooter? Is that two snipers? What's the kit that they're using, etc.? Yeah. Um, so, you're going to have a sniper and a and and a spotter, but the spotter also is a sniper. So, you have two really competent shooters. Um, and uh, I can't I I um, I'm not going to get like too really specific into the equipment that they're using cuz it's kind of sensitive. And people are going to try to kill the president the former president a whole bunch for the next 4 months. And the last thing we want is people to understand the capabilities or the lack of capabilities around the probably safe to say that it wasn't basic kit. It's something that allows them to be very efficient very quickly. Yeah. Yeah, like every single shooter, every single PRS guy on the planet's like, "Ooh, that's a nice setup right there." You know, like that's the good stuff. That's a That's a great caliber selection, by the way, for a for a person to include armor-penetrating. You know, like, "Hey, that's a really great laser rangefinder you got on there. Man, that's a really fantastic optic you got on there. Man, that's a really great tool that that assesses the wind and gives you a pretty accurate estimate. Hey, that's a really good like it was all primo stuff. Okay, so talk me through what that sniper is doing. What Why is his body language the way Why does he respond in that way? What do you think's going on? Yeah, um so he's being fed information, right? He's like, "Okay, building those numbers, so you have this GRG. And uh this GRG, which is a grid reference guide, that has you number all the buildings left to right 1 through 10, right? So, every single building on his whole entire uh sector sketch is numbered. So, he knows, let's just say, um not that I've already done this, but from his position, that's building number three. That building from his position is 151 yd. So, he's looking at building number three on his GRG. He's talking to his sniper um his spotter. His spotter's getting hit giving him estimations. And um they also set up that they're slightly offset, so he has a kind of different perspective, but they're both looking in the same general area, and they're supposed to be on different magnification areas, so they're able to see different things, but same the same thing kind of simultaneously. Um there's a lot of science around like how the sniper and the spotter work together. Um and uh all the schools ultimately Holy crap. What? Uh President Trump just picked J.D. Vance for VP. Oh, yeah, that's been up a couple of hours. But yes, that'll be I think that's a So, open me up. Yeah, I've been I've been freaking working all day. You know Operational excellence coming into the potential Republican White House that. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it's smart move, I think. Yeah. So, that team and and I'm not using the word team like lightly at all. They they they are very cohesive unit. They spend a lot of time together, like they know how they smell, they know how they breathe. Like they they know when they're anxious, they know how each other's brains work, you know, like they they spend lots of time together. Um and the time that they spend together is for them to be able to work in unison, or like they can almo- almost like not that they're precogs, but they can anticipate what the other one's going to say and do. And as they're looking at the same area or the same thing, they're both like processing information. And when you have a really, really good team, this is what's so unique about a with the right equipment, with the right personnel, with the right training, um the the ability and the capability of that two-man sniper team is yes, they can shoot something from a mile away, but they can also anticipate what is going to be happening in a battle space before anybody else on the planet can see it or understand it. And that is why they're so crucial as a counter-sniper element. Um and it's a really difficult thing to like explain and put into words un- unless you've you've either experienced it as the shooter or counter-sniper, um or you've been on the receiving end of that capability. Which is a pretty scary thing. talk me through uh their actions, the flinching, the coming up off the glass, the standing up, the stances, all that stuff. Okay. This is the worst-case scenario of all of the things that we've been seeing over the past three years. Um and I'm just going to hypothetically paint an opposite picture here. A young black kid in Butler climbs up on that roof to get a view of former President Trump. Dude, all he wants to see is the man that his grandpa's been talking about and he loves, the man that's going to like help them not be poor anymore. And he picks to picks his head up, looks over the top of that roof, and he gets his face caved in, canoed by a special operations sniper. Um that law enforcement for the past I mean, really bad for the past three years, but since the defund the police movement, since countless indictments, since the the gutting of the Department of Justice of every single good law enforcement officer. Not every single one of them. There's still a few left, but not very many, because most of them have had to leave because of the toxic policies and the toxic hires and the toxic appointees. So, that guy behind the gun, man, he does not have the confidence that he can pull that trigger. And it's not until those rounds start going that he actually moves his finger to the trigger and moves into hunt mode. Has he got the clearance to be able to unload rounds without getting the okay from somebody on the radio? Yes. So, he can threat. What does that mean? Yeah, that's that's That is an intentionally vague and ambiguous thing. So, confirmed threat, um bad guy with a gun pointing a rifle at the former president, smoke him. Eliminate that threat. Um a head crusting the top of a rooftop, nope. That's a very fine line. And this just for clarity, this is the call is made by the sniper and spotter team. That's right. So, they have like executive independent authority to be able to pull the trigger or not. On some things, on some things they don't. On some things they have to get to me? Um so, uh a clear threat to their principal, they have the authority to protect. Rounds started being sent towards the former president, obviously they have the authority without approval to pull that trigger. Mhm. Um do they have the authority to send a round towards a potential threat? A potential like Let's define a potential threat, and we're putting in a timeline on a negative slope roof. You know, may- maybe they never saw a gun. They might not have. Do you think that they had been warned to You said that they were already looking over at that building. Yep. Does that suggest that maybe something had come through some of the Chinese whisper comes, and it was there's someone up there, we maybe need to look in that direction? Yeah, one, they already knew that that building was a threat. Two, um so they like of that whole entire area, they have the water tower slightly to their right, and they have that building slightly dead center. Um And this is their area. This is the area that they have been given, those two dudes. Yep. Um and that water tower and those that little cluster of buildings, those are by far the highest concerning things. So, like in their mind, in their subconscious, you know, yeah, they're scanning, yeah, they're looking out into the crowd, yeah, they're looking out into the parking lot, but they're also they keep going back to that 151-yd building with a line of sight to the podium. What about the order of shots? What do you think Have you been able to reverse engineer? So, presumably it looks like the shooter got at least one off. Did he get Yeah, I think he got like four or five off. Yeah. So, what what happens Is that where we see the flinch? Where we see the Okay, so talk me through that. What's going on? Yeah, uh the second part of that question, uh your earlier question about so, they know that that building's a threat, and I think judging by both of their body language, that they're processing communication that's coming in about that specific thing. Cuz both of them weren't just like scanning, both of them are zoned in to that one building for about 40, 45 seconds. And they're coming off, and they're looking specifically at that building, they're looking down their optics, they're looking down their binos, they're looking over their binos. And this is what's really sad, is that guy was close enough that they didn't need any magnification to see him. That's bad. Oh, because they can pop up and just look normally. Yeah, he's 150 Like he's one and a half football fields away. Dude, how close that is? So, they're literally just like coming off their optic and like looking at him the top of a building be like, "Yep, that's a dude, all right. That's a bummer. Holy crap, he's shooting at us." And then he gets on the glass. So, they're observing, they're processing all that com- communication that's coming in. Clearly, like they're working together trying to figure out what it is. Um then whether the shooter had to rush his shots, he comes up and over the top, and you see him immediate the sniper, the counter-sniper, immediately go down back onto his glass, because I think he knew he had to shoot. But then the shots started coming in. Then he jerked and had to get back on the gun. So, what's that? Is that just the response to [ __ ] there's bullets coming? I don't think that dude's been in a gunfight. Yeah. Um last night I was talking uh with a Canadian special operations guy that has the current and longest confirmed kill, or his team does. Um which is at like two miles. And um and then I was talking with Rob O'Neill, who is a Navy SEAL sniper, and the three of us were kind of like nerding about uh ar- around like ballistics and winds and all those things. Um and the three of us were in agreement in in pretty much everything. But, the thing that we just were astounded by was the level of experience and combat experience especially with those immediately around the former president. Just before we go on to kind of the tight detail cuz there's a lot to talk about there. Um, it seems to me based on my total muggle knowledge of how this works. Muggle knowledge, I know. Know me knowledge. Um, it seems like 150 yd ish, 150 m, is kind of a bit of a unique distance that it's very short for a sniper team, but it's also sort of too long. It seems like based on what I'd seen that a lot of what the snipers were looking at is way out beyond that. Is is that 150 m or is the fact that it's such a an obvious potential assailant position that would have kind of overshadowed the fact that it's in this maybe Goldilocks zone of too too long to be short, too short to be long? Um, it it I mean, it's so close. Uh, in in scanning besides being great marksmen marksmen and being uh, masters of lethality, snipers are observers first. They spend so much time like some of them are must-pass events in sniper school. They they take these men, they drop them into the you know, a middle of nowhere area, and out in front of them between 50 and 1,000 m, there's a pair of binoculars. There's a scope. There's a guy in a ghillie suit. And they have to um, on their sector sketch, mark every single one of those things. And those are graded and must-pass events. Like if you can't find those things, so you have you have these squirrel searches, you have these grid pattern searches, you have the book up to right or left to right, top to bottom. You're using all of these search techniques. You're changing focus from far away to up close um, in some of these static positions, you're not uh, seeing movement which is like one of the easiest thing to see, but you're looking for shapes, you're looking for colors, you're looking for um, non-natural, you know, material uh, that's not that's reflecting and not you know, most natural things kind of absorb light, not reflect light. And uh, so there's no way that both of those trained snipers um, 150 yd is outside of the realm. It's not too close, it's not too long. Um, it's not too anything. They're professionals. They're perfect. Okay. All right. So, it looks like based on your assessment that uh, maybe they'd been warned. For some reason they seem to have their attention very much on that building, uh, we'll call it building three. Uh, and then they maybe see a guy, they come back up off the glass, they go back down onto it, then first shot hits which is the one where Trump just turns his head a tiny little bit, glances his ear, then they flinch, come back up a second time, then go back down and presumably cuz he gets hit very close between the eyes, I think based on the uh, the photos that I've seen. You reckon it's those guys that delivered that shot? There's no one else? Um, I I I don't think that there's no one else. We know that it was a Secret Service sniper that engaged him. Um, the CAT teams doing their work, so you see yeah, that um, within Secret Service, you have multiple teams from counter-sniper teams, you had red cell teams that that are like reverse engineering and doing all the threat like lots of different really specialty teams. The guys that run up onto rooftops or ran up onto the stage wearing body armor with machine guns, they they fall under that category. Um, they're rad. And um, they're like the direct action when you see the plainclothes people wearing like tacky, poorly cut suits with weird holsters, um, they that's that's that's they're there to protect the former president. The people that rush out with long rifles, they're there to kill people. And Okay. All right. They're the hammers. Yes. Okay. So, let's talk about the sort of what do you call it? Immediate detail? What's what's the thing that encircles the president? What is that called? How are they selected? Where have they been drawn from? And what do you make of the performance on Saturday? Yeah. I mean, of all the bad stuff, this might be the worst, huh? And there's lot there's a lot bad here. And we're not even scratching the surface. And listen, I'm not I'm not like Monday morning quarterbacking this. You know, if you uh, everybody to include the guys on the ground who are going to be way the guys and gals on the ground are going to be by far the worst critics of this whole entire situation. Um, I'm I'm not saying anything that anyone else is is is going to disagree with with maybe slight differences of perspectives or opinions. But, generally everybody in an AAR, an after-action review, that does a sustains and improves of this operation is going to come to the general generally the same conclusions. And um, and that's what we do after every single mission that we ever do is an AAR, an after-action review. And then we break these things down by phase into cat just like we are, Chris. And in these phases, we say, all right, this is what went right and this is what went wrong and an improve and sustain. So, improves are things that went wrong. We have to fix and improve on. And then these are the things that went well and let's continue to do those. I do not have very many things in that latter category. So, and under this phase which is shots have just skipped off the president's ear, and do you really understand like how 1 mile an hour wind difference, 1 degree head direction in either direction, that bullet was already in the air when he turned his head to look at that graphic. No [ __ ] way. Yes way. I've seen the image where someone explained what a straight line does to the human head. Um, at 151 yd, what that bullet does is the backside of the brain. What's the caliber of round coming out of that, do you think? I I think it's going to be an AAR. I think it's going to be 556, 223. You know, I think it's going to be a 55 grain to a 77 grain traveling at 9 2900 ft per second. How close does that need to be to someone's ear to draw blood? Because presumably it could actually miss the ear and still just the the pace going past? Yeah, those so 55 grain to 77 grain that that 556 and 223 um, that is a very small projectile that is moving really really fast. The the the danger of that bullet is the energy that it carries because of its speed. Mhm. Um, so unlike a 50 cal where like, you know, if a 50 cal gets near somebody's head, um, you know, it's going to like jumble the brains. You're going to know about it. That's right. You know, like you're if a if a guy's waving and a and a 50 cal bullet goes through here, the air displacement um, and energy of that bullet going by might blow that dude's arm off. That that's not the same with a you know, 65 smaller mass. Yeah. Okay. Uh, so right, we're talking about this probably having nicked the skin that in order to have done this. This isn't it it was just close. This is actually 50 Cent got shot. That's right. Yep. Bro. And then Okay. So, that happens. Let's say that gold standard you are the what's it called? What's that immediate team called around the president? Um, that's the principal security detail. Right. And they're the close proximity people. Usually bad haircuts, bad suits. They have all of their weapons stashed up underneath them. They're wearing um, body armor not for themselves, but to throw themselves on top of the principal to be able to protect him. So, they're going to be they're bullet magnets. Their job is to absorb any threat that if that's overpressure, like if that's a drone being flown in with C4, um, that's them to take and be like literally blood bags to cushion an explosion. That's them being able to suck up all the bullets. You know, if you look um, you talk about this a lot. Um, if we talk about the Aurora, Colorado shooting, you know, um, every time you tell that story by the way, you you make me cry. Sorry. Uh, that's right. And it happened again on Saturday. You know what that dad did? The volunteer firefighter, guy that died? He threw his he threw himself on top of his family. Yeah. That's why he was hit. That's right. Yeah. Give me give me that masculinity, by the way. Um, yeah, I was all right, let me rally again. All right. The um, God bless that family, by the way. The uh, so that detail, their job is to be looking out to anticipate, to prevent, and then in the worst case, respond and react by protecting and and cushioning the literally becoming a human shield around the principal. That's that's what they're supposed to be doing. Um, they failed. Some of them failed. Well, some of them failed for the whole entire time, but when you have a bullet that hits your principal, you have failed. Right. There's there's there's no there's no moment in all of this where you can be like, all right, those guys did a great job there. Um, so sniper Go ahead. What do you make of the um criticism around female Secret Service agents that aren't tall enough for the principal, that their head comes up to his chest line, that there's one that used him as a shield as she coward behind? Yeah, I mean, just take gender out of that conversation take sex out of that conversation. I don't want to talk about male or female. You're either capable of doing the job or you're not capable of doing the job. You're either strong enough to pick up your principal and move him off the X, you're either large enough to block that person that you're trying to protect or you're not. You're either trained enough and equipped enough and prepared enough to do the job or you're not. They're not. The women that were there um um there's not just a one. So, as as shots are being still being fired and you see bodies being flung on top of the former president as he's down on the ground. What an amazing photo. Blood's dripping off of his face. And there is a woman Secret Service agent that is hiding behind the president. Not on top of. She's hiding behind him cowering. Hoping to not get hurt when her one job is to put herself on top of the president. Go forward 10 seconds. The hammers start coming out. You see guys in body armor with helmets run out with guns. There's another photo of a Secret Service agent that is Here we go. So, here's the guys running up or the other way. Running up the stairs. 10 seconds later and this is one of the photos I was trying to find. 10 seconds later you see all three of these guys with their guns pointed out into the crowd. Guess where that girl is. That girl right there. She's still right there. She's hiding behind the stage. These guys, dude, they're up, guns in the high ready, they're on their optics, they are scanning, they are hunting. I'm telling you if you farted weird, you're about to get around. And they were also positioning themselves to prepare for an exfil. And while they're doing that there's a Secret Service agent hiding behind her principal and there's another Secret Service agent that's higher hiding at the base of the stage. Fired. They're fired. I like to say you're fired because it's such a Trump thing right now. But Department of Homeland Security Mayorkas, you're fired. Department of Secret Service, what's her name? Kimberly, you're fired. Every single one of those DEI hires in the past 3 years, you're fired. You don't meet height and weight, you're fired. You can't pass a shooting test, you're fired. You can't do a site survey, you're fired. You didn't know that building 3 at 151 yards wasn't the highest risk possible and allowed a dude to clamber up and get on top and take a shot at your principal, you're freaking fired, man. Everyone's gone. Got that whole and then don't get me started on FBI or Department of Justice who are currently doing the investigation around the opponent to the reigning the reigning government. The FBI that just raided President Trump's home armed, they're the ones that are doing the investigation on the assassination of the organization under the double Bureaucracy doesn't help when there's bullets flying. Nope. How big of a deal is this DEI initiative? I'm always hesitant about taking like accusations that it happens to be some women there, therefore there has been this huge amount of hires. I did see a video talking about how the Secret Service wanted 30% female recruits by 2030. Uh that makes me think, okay, this isn't just talking points. This isn't just a slightly oddly skewed sex ratio of the president's detail. This is actually part of a broader narrative, a broad a broader push to try and get more diversity into the Secret Service. Yeah, I have worked overseas with capable, competent, impressive women. Um and and again, this has nothing to do with sex. This does I male male female, you you can either do the job or you can't. But it's prioritizing diversity over competence. And that's where things get dangerous. So, we like we'll work from like mission. So, the mission of the military, the job, the one job of the military is to be the most lethal fighting force on the planet. So, with that we'll we'll brew that down into lethality. We are going to measure every single person's contribution to the government or to the Department of Defense into lethality. You either make it more lethal or you don't. If you don't make it more lethal you can't have the job. So, on Special Forces selection you are going to have a rucksack that weighs this amount. You'll have to move over this distance at this speed and you can either do it or you can't. And then you're going to have to be able to pick up for the ACFT for as an 18X Bravo, a Special Forces Weapons Sergeant. You're going to have to pick up this amount of weight this many times. You have to run this distance at this like very clear can cannot. And the reason of that is because you are going to be capable of doing the job, you're going to be lethal or you won't. That's black and white. matter who you are. It doesn't matter whether you're Asian, it doesn't matter whether you're a woman, it doesn't matter Look at the NBA. Like I I see a ton of young Asian women out on the on the basketball court these days and I'm I'm really really really celebrating the DEI of the NBA. You know, congratulations. No, obviously not. Like there's not a single one out there. Why? Because they can't do it. Right? There's not a little tiny white suburban mom that's going out to the NFL offensive line be like, hey man, listen quarterback, I got you. Nobody's going to get past me. Right? And then Derek Wolfe is like, I'm going to take your face off then I'm going to kill that quarterback. Right? There's not a single one of them because they can't do the job. On the firefighter side, on the law enforcement side, on the military side, like these On the flying a plane side, I don't care what color you are. I don't care who you have sex with. I don't care about any of it. You can either fly the plane and you can do the job or you can't. And what we're seeing right now is a really really really dangerous cross-section of policies that have been implemented over the past 3 years. And it's about to get really bad, Chris. Cuz all of these people that were hired over the this this DEI phase are now moving into legitimate roles like we just saw. Like you're not going to get hired yesterday or on Friday and then be on the principal security detail for a nationally presidential running election, right? That person was probably hired about 5 years ago. Here we go. How different are the assessment criteria for men and women? I'd seen something about it's the like scaled version of the CrossFit workout for Yeah, it's about 30% off everything. And what are some of those assessments? Uh running push-ups um some some events don't even exist. Like there's a requirement for a man um but like we'll just we'll just use running. So, you have to run uh 2 miles in 13 minutes and 44 seconds. That's the man requirement to pass at 100%. Um the woman requirement is 15 minutes and 20 seconds. This is how they get tricky on the numbers game. They both still have to pass at 80% for them to qualify for the job. So, I can say, let's let's say I'm Kimberly at the Secret Service. Thank you for the appointment. I say, no no no, there's no change. They still have the same requirement. They have to pass at 80%. You're so typical. of what makes 80% is That's Yep. And they've been they've been doing it to to a few different selections, to a few different, you know, assessments and for a few different different job selections. What did you make of the exfil, the exfiltration when Trump finally gets stood up? He says, I need to get my shoes. Apparently he's knocked to the floor so hard that his shoes come off. I don't know how loosely you've tied your shoes. He's got giant feet, too. Uh he's got a bruise on his arm, apparently from where he hit the ground so hard, obviously from being tackled to the combination of falling, ducking, and being tackled to the floor. Uh and then I hear like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Where are we going? Where are we going? a lot. And then eventually he's stood up. He says, hang on. And then he gets taken out. And that really seems to kind of be a Ah, he doesn't get taken out. Don't skip that. Give it to him. What do you do? He says What's draining draining down his face? 6 seconds gets a good gets a good look at him. That's the heart of that man, dude. He is he's not a normal person. Dude, I you know, I I think it's the first time I can say this because I'm British. It's the first time that I've looked at Trump as somebody who's genuinely admirable. I you know, he's sort of gregarious and he's got this sort of strange way of speaking and he's not from my country and he's all of these other things. He's lots and lots and lots of things, many of which are kind of bombastic and and out there and all the rest of it. And I'm like I I kind of don't really fully understand him, although I respect him, but I wouldn't have said, "Oh, that's like an admirable man." You know, he's it's very difficult to work out. And I saw that and I was then in playing golf the next day, apparently sinking a 20-ft putt putt with a like 2 ft of break and saying, "Unlike the sniper, I don't miss." Wow. Apparently, that's true. A lot of Apparently, that's true. A lot of things have been debunked. But uh that that has uh that seems to be an actual thing. the Reagan Do you remember the Reagan bit where the balloon pops and he goes Miss me. Yeah, [ __ ] brilliant. Don't you want to That was a dude, I you know, I I really have felt uh in me and I could again, I'm an independent. I'm not I'm not going to be able to vote in this country. Uh I'm I find him significantly more admirable than I did a few days ago and maybe that's just unlocked a character trait that I'd overlooked. Um or maybe this is a genuine sort of pivot that many other people are going to feel too. But uh yeah, that was I don't know [ __ ] badass. I don't consume media. Uh I I really I I have for the past 3 days and I actually feel really gross about having to get information from from from media because I think it's so toxic and it's unhealthy. Um so I don't know the man that everybody knows as President Trump. Uh I know Don Jr. I know Laura. Uh I know a from 2016 me going and he's like "I'm in Albuquerque, New Mexico." He comes in on during his campaign trail. And uh he's like, "I want you to do the Pledge of Allegiance and the prayer. And hey, you better do it good." You know, he grabs my arm, he pulls me in like face-to-face. He's like, "I want the Pledge of Allegiance to be like good." And I was like I'm I'm a special fighter, first of all. Like don't try to intimidate me like that. But that was pretty intimidating. Um so like I don't And so I've never And I And I get that and I really appreciate your kind of transparency and your perception of him. But I only know like this man that when in in Charlotte a few months ago I I sit down and he's like, "Hey Tim, I I want to know what's happening with veterans and suicide." We can talk about anything that he wants. And the thing that he wants to talk to me about is the border because he knew I'd spent time on the border. And he wanted to know about veterans, their mental health, and suicide prevention. This is Trump or Trump Jr.? No, this is This is This is This is Trump. And I mean, don't get me started on Don. Like Don's hilarious. Um not his persona. I'm talking about the man, the hunter, the father, like the guy's epic. Um and I judge a lot of people by their kids. And I I know his kids way better than I know him. And I'm And I'm just they're they're amazing people. So like I'm glad that people got a snap snapshot of the guy that I know. Yeah, it's interesting. It's It's there is no more costly signal than after you've just been shot how you respond Yeah. after that. It's very difficult to deny that that guy is built different. Yeah. Um and I'm not a sycophant, dude. Like this is this will be the first time I think I've ever complimented Trump because I was largely unsure. And the way that he behaves doesn't make it easier to kind of trust cuz he seems so much like the WWE character that he briefly has starred as. Um that it's hard. It's hard It's It's But now I'm This isn't to forgive things he's done whatever like say he's a [ __ ] saint. But I'm like that guy's a badass. He's an actual badass. No like how few people You're talking like less than a thousand people on the planet who to whom that would have happened and would have then stood up and said, "Wait, wait, wait." Yeah. And pumped the fist. Anyway, just finish off the round out the getting him off the stage, getting him to the car thing. Yeah, the this is just a cluster. The the the This is like as in in infuriating and sloppy as everything else has been, this was like next level amateur. So there's no command. Who's actually in charge of getting him off the stage? Clearly, nobody knows. Where is he going? They had not rehearsed the exfil of their principal. Um vehicle placement weight When I say weight, like his weight their ability to move him Uh they can't do it. They they they have not practiced and rehearsed. They haven't gone and found a 365-lb guy and been like, "All right, how do the five of us move this guy?" They haven't done that. And then not knowing where they're going to move him or how they're going to move him. And then what they're going to do with him once they get him there. Trying to get him in that car um and the cluster that happened around that car. Girl has her gun out, she's trying to look around, she tries to put her gun away, she can't get her gun away, can't even find her holster because her stomach is so large, her suspenders are holding up her pants. And then finally when she is like, "All right, forget it. I'm not going to get my gun gun away. I'm just going to keep it out." Um the fact that you're keeping your gun like the on the 5:00 of your hip What security person on the planet is like, "You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take my gun. I'm going to put it over my right butt cheek." That's a That's a good place to have a gun. What's the problem with that? Uh you can't get to it. It's a slow draw. Like we'll do this, Chris. Um I'm going to give you a uh a paintball gun. And I'm going to have you take that gun. I'm going to put it on your hip. I'm going to take a gun and I'm going to put it on the natural line of my hands. Or I'm going to do it in a cross carry if I'm in a in a high uh position like this, which we call it interview position, which is how most of them stand. They stand like this or they stand like this or they stand like this or they do they do things like with their hands as they're as they're talking. It's because they keep their guns like here so they can just go like this and they get a gun out. And uh and then we'll do a three count and we'll see who's going to shoot each other in the face with the paintball. Yeah, that sounds like a good afternoon for you, not for me. That's right. So it's about a it's about a half a second to 3/4 second difference. Um and then like you add clothes, garments, it just it just gets harder. Panic. Well, I mean, I've spent I've spent time around you and and your guys and I've seen, you know, people who are significantly less experienced than you handle weapons in Austin shooting. And it feels like it might be hard for someone that's not been around elite shooters to understand. Especially the guys from Atomic Legion, some of the dudes that are competitive shooters who would maybe put similar sorts of numbers of rounds as as like some soldiers would have done. Their firearm is like an extension of their body. It It even It's so blind. Do it in the dark, do it without looking. You know, it's an obscene level of competence. What are you point What are you pointing your camera at? What is this? But there's a gun right there. Yeah, you came in when we did our This is And I own it right there. Yeah, you know, like This is it's just part of our life. Um it goes with us everywhere that we go. I shot 2,800 rounds on Saturday and Sunday of this weekend. This right here that is a is a callous blister burst from the trigger guard of my rifle from shooting 1,500 rounds out of my rifle in 2 days. So anybody that is sufficiently competent and familiar with their firearm would not have encountered the problem of not being able to holster their weapon. No. I every every shooter on the planet watched everything that unfolded for about 25 seconds in disgust and shame about how inadequate inadequate and inept that that group of people were. So to kind of go back to the high-level stuff uh it seems like the pool from which the Secret Service is able to draw has maybe been derogated a little bit in terms of competence and quality. Uh prioritizing perhaps diversity over just straight-up uh capacity. Then it seems like the volume, the number, and the quality that from this reduced pool that was given to the uh to Trump that was dropped. And then there was also on top of that being probably a number of intelligence and sort of operational failures. So it's a poor pool which is drawn from to a too small task force with too few capacities which has been deployed in a manner where the intelligence and the awareness has not been done in an effective manner. Is that kind of encapsulating the Yeah, in broad strokes and wave in wave tops, you know, when you get into the minutia and you and you break down into those, you know, three gross categories, all of the different failures that they make in both, you know, selection of the people, how they're trained, um who is hired, then it then it starts getting like wild because, you know, if you're faithful in the small things, you're going to be faithful in the big things. You can't be faithful in the small things unless you're diligent and disciplined in the little things. And what you see here is millions of little decisions that lead up to a catastrophic failure. And not that all decisions were made that were made were bad, but the vast majority of them now cumulatively clearly, the byproduct of that is a broken organization. What do you think happens from here going forward? Nothing for months. What do you mean? Say more. Like, you you think the government with the president that wants to win an election um is going to be providing a bunch of Like, last night President Biden did a live speech to the entire nation about the assassination attempt of the opposing party's nominee. The first words out of his mouth were, "I fired the my appointed Department of Homeland Security director." Um Nope. Nope, those weren't. He never did that. Did he fire the head of Secret Service? No. Didn't do that. The FBI currently has this 20-year-old's phone in Quantico, and they you know they're doing like Did you read all of the release about the motive? And um no, like they didn't do that. Why? Because it negatively affects their position of power. And there's no benefit for them to do anything better. I think for President Trump to survive the next 4 months to the election and the next 6 months to the inauguration is he has to bring in private security. He calls up someone like you or Eric Prince. I would I would talk. Those are good names. Um and nobody's better at it than that man. Uh and talking to him yesterday, he very wisely pointed out every single way that they When I say they, the It When I say they, like It's just people in power that want to remain in power. And in either side, it's not it's still not like a partisan thing, you know? Of the 10 people that uh there was assassination attempts against of our president. It was 60/40. You know? Like it's not a partisan thing. And um they just want to stay in power. The Raytheons, the Halliburtons, the Dynacors, the KBRs, um the Boeings, the Lockheed Martins, you know, they want more they want more war and uh they want to stay in power. What would you look out for over the next sort of week or a couple of weeks? There's going to be a lot of people who think, "God, that was a lot of news in a lot of time. I don't really know what to pay attention to." What would be the things that you would say, "Hey, you're a civilian. You don't really understand too much about what's going on, but this is what I would try and pay attention to over the coming weeks." I think it's really important to um listen to So, we we we we got a very rare opportunity, which was to look past um the stick that is President Trump. Now that you got a glimpse of what there is, if you one, register to vote. I don't care what side of the party you're on. I don't want to hear your complaints. I don't want to see your TikTok. I don't want you to like I don't want any of it. Go and vote in November. Go and vote. Go register to vote. And then go and vote. But now that you got a a little peek at the the wizard behind the smoke and the mirrors, um look for that. Go and go and look at a man and look at what he's going to do in Milwaukee. And uh and then and then go and vote in November. Yeah. Tim Kennedy, ladies and gentlemen. Tim, I appreciate it. Emergency episode, needed to get this one done. Uh I'm sure that you're going to be all over the news over the next couple of weeks as well. So, I very much appreciate you finding time to speak to me. Yeah, anytime. Can't wait to work out with you, dude. Soon. Cheers, man. All right, take care. If you enjoyed that episode, you will love a selection of the best clips from the podcast over the last couple of months, and it's available right here. Go on. Go and watch.