The Chris Benoit And Lindsay Clancy Comparisons

What's good Josh? Your boy Ross back at again with another video. So we're check out Chris Benw did the same thing as Lindsay Clancy. Now for those who don't know who Lindsay Clancy is, this is a mother who decided to unalive all her children. She was dealing with uh postpartum depression and other mental instability. She was on different medications and she decided to unalive her children and she tried to unalive herself but it didn't work. She ended up paralyzing herself in the attempt. And the reason why people are comparing this and even when I heard about this this case I instantly thought about the whole Chris and Wall situation. Unfortunately, we all know what happened with the Chris and W situation. He ended up unaling his wife. he would have unalived his other son, but he wasn't there. So, he ended up unaliving his uh his I think it was his youngest son at the time and then he unalived himself and it was a tragic case. Very very horrific situation. We later found out that the cause of that uh similar to this case was some mental instability, but mainly the cause of that was from CTE and all the unprotected chair shots and concussions he had received over time in wrestling. And that kind of just made his brain just essentially, you know, mush. You know, he wasn't in the right state of mind. And you can't be in the right state of mind to do something like that, to do something so heinous to your own family. So, we're definitely going to check this out because people are bringing this up in conversations when it comes to, you know, how similar this is with the Chris Wall thing. The only difference is she actually ended up surviving the unaliving attempt while Chris ultimately didn't. Both tragic stories in their own right, but we're gonna check this out. Man, >> how would we know that Chris Benwis would turn into a monster? >> Well, the wrestling world in shock today. Former champion Chris Benois found dead in his Atlanta home along with his wife and young son. >> A professional wrestler and his family have been found dead inside their home. At about 2:30 p.m. today, 40-year-old Chris Benois was found in a suburban Atlanta house along with his wife and young son. >> Police now treating the discovery as a double murder suicide. There will be no mention of Mr. Benois's name tonight. >> And with that, the show went on as if nothing had happened. >> After our Lindsey Clansancy video dropped, a super thanks came in that said, "I got two words for you, Chris Beno. This is pure gold." In 2007, a WWE wrestler Chris Benois did something almost identical to what Lindsey Clansy is accused of. Killed his family, killed himself, and the public reaction looked nothing. Nothing like what we're watching happen right now. And sir, this video is inspired by your super thanks. Salute. Let's find out why. >> On June 25th, 2007, the professional wrestling business changed forever when news broke that the bodies of Chris Benoir, his wife Nancy, and their son Daniel had all been found in the family home. Wrestling had seen its share of tragedy and premature death, but this was different. Active major WWE stars had been found dead before their time in the past, such as Chris Benoir's best friend Eddie Guerrero, but never alongside their loved ones. The news led to widespread disbelief, confusion, and grief before those feelings turned to horror. Chris Benoir was respected by all and widely considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. He was thought to be a humble and hardworking man who, to the public's knowledge, had never put a foot wrong in either his professional or personal life. This was the person responsible for all three of their deaths. It was a revelation that shook the industry to its core. How did this happen? How could this happen? The investigation into the deaths revealed the grizzly facts about the double murder suicide and the tempestuous life that Chris and Nancy led. Each revelation brought with it a heightened sense of shock as well as scrutiny from the public, fans, and even government agencies. As well as shattering the lives of those affected, the Benoir family tragedy almost destroyed the wrestling business. On June 22nd, 2007, Chris Benois strangled his wife, Nancy, in their home outside Atlanta. 2 days later, he suffocated his 7-year-old son, Daniel. Then, he hanged himself in his own basement gym. Here's the part almost nobody remembers because it's inconvenient to the point everyone wants to make about this case. Within that hour, everything changes. From 400 p.m. to 5:00 p.m., the live event scheduled for that night is cancelled. Producers start tearing up the script for Monday Night Raw. Entire segments get scrapped. Matches that finishes planned just hours earlier are now irrelevant. They didn't have time to investigate or wait for facts. They had to go live in just a few hours. and they had to decide what this show was going to be. Around 5:00 p.m. the decision is made. This won't be a normal episode of Monday Night Raw. It will be a tribute, a full show dedicated to the life and career of Chrisen W. And at this point, nobody in that building really knows the truth. And that's what makes this so kind of crazy. >> No one really knew. We just knew he had passed away. It was a shocking moment for anyone that was a fan of professional wrestling and especially a fan of Crispen Wall. So when they decided to do the tribute episode, it was like, "All right, that makes sense." You know that it was an unforeseen thing. No one saw this coming. You know, if there's anybody that deserves to be remembered, it's Chrisen Juan, right? wasn't until they found out after the fact what happened and yeah that WWE said, "No, we we got to cut ties with all of it." >> Fans saw this hastily produced three-hour tribute to Chris Benois on Monday Night Raw. >> WWE superstar Chris Benois, his wife Nancy, and their son Daniel >> are dead. >> The world didn't know yet. WWE thought they'd lost a respected veteran to some kind of accident or medical emergency. So, they gave him a real sendoff. Two full hours. Wrestlers fighting through tears on camera. A company built around spectacle going completely silent out of respect. Now, watch how fast that gets reversed the moment the truth comes out. >> Yep. >> Around 10:00 a.m. to noon. At this point, WWE knows. And now they're dealing with something else entirely. They aired a full tribute show less than 12 hours earlier. They immediately begin to pull everything. Tribute shows would get taken down, website content removed, merchandise pulled, an entire full stop. >> But police say the man they praised was a killer. >> Uh we are at now looking at this case and ruling it as a double homicide, suicide. >> What would the say on tonight's program? >> There will be no mention of Mr. Benois's name tonight. And with that, the show went on as if nothing had happened. >> He would make it very clear that Chris Benwis's name will never be mentioned again. >> Read that timeline again. Two-hour tribute on Monday night. By Tuesday evening, under 24 hours later, the same man who delivered that tribute stood up and announced the name would never be spoken on WWE programming again. That wasn't a one-time statement made in shock. It held. Over time, the position in the company was consistent. Chris would get no Hall of Fame induction, no more celebrations of his >> like they legitimately tried to remove him from everything. Like legitimately, they don't even they don't even mention his name. I know some people like, "Oh, he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Yes, he had a Hall of Fame career." But once again, it's kind of hard to overlook how it ended. And some could say, "Well, it's not really all his fault because his brain wasn't all there." And that's fair. But still, two other p people, innocent people, lost their life because his mind wasn't even there no more. So, it's kind of hard in this particular situation. It's really hard to separate that to Yeah, we know he was a fantastic wrestler, but his last acts of life was horrendous. And there's there's really it's it's celebrating that ultimately would disrespect the lives that was lost that day. You know what I'm saying? Like that that that's a tough one to even try to we're going to try to celebrate what he did in the ring, but try to ignore what happened in his last moments outside the ring. You can't it's it's impossible to do that, bro. To be honest with you. It's it's not going to work that way. career and you would almost never see footage of him unless historically necessary. >> Nearly two decades of consistent deliberate eraser, not outrage, not a movement, not a single pink shirt outside a courthouse. There was no courthouse because Benois was dead before anyone could charge him, just permanent removal. The instant the facts were confirmed by the institution that knew him best and initially mourned him hardest. Why women and not men though? That's what I'm talking about. Why aren't there men lined up out there? >> You know, I think that's a great question because I've been thinking the same thing. I if a man, you know, went to war and came home with horrible PTSD and killed his entire family, I don't think we would be seeing a bunch of men saying Carl. Now, when you factor in the postpartum, I think that's a particularly sensitive topic, but that doesn't necessarily mean postpartum depression doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have burdous thoughts about your children. And I think that's where we're getting a little bit blurry with the lines. >> Boom. She said that on live television, unprompted before we ever brought up Benois. That's the comparison making itself on air independently, a hypothetical almost identical to a case that actually happened. and the panel immediately understood there'd be no equivalent movement for it. >> I think the hard question, Harlo, for you is, do you believe that Lindseay Clancy would have done what she did if she were not mentally ill? >> I'm not completely positive. I think obviously to kill your kids, you have to be mentally ill in some capacity. I'm not totally sold based on what we've seen in the trial that she necessarily had postpartum psychosis. And I think that's what's causing a lot of confusion, but I think a big issue we're seeing with the young women is that we have a generation who's so obsessed with mental health empathy that they are putting the potential internal state of Lindsay Clancy that is very much up for debate, but they're putting her internal state above the actual victims, which is the three kids who are dead, who are >> and that's the thing. And this is why I said with the whole situation with Chris Benois, there's no way you can put them in the Hall of Fame. For some of y'all, I keep saying he deserves he may deserve because of his in ring ability, but once again, people lost their lives because of what happened. Regardless of how it transpired, they lost their lives. So to prop up one but not to respect the other, that's a that's a tough thing. So, no, it no no I I stand by that. Love what Chris Benwis did in the ring and it's very tragic of how things happened outside the ring, but there's no way we can celebrate someone doing that to their family. There's no way. There's no, oh, we got to separate it. No. So, for people to keep pushing that agenda, it's never going to happen. Nor should it. Nor should it. No. Two people lost their lives. It would have been three if their eldest son wasn't even there. Like, no. No. >> Violently murdered by their mother who was supposed to love and protect them. >> Sit with that sentence. Three dead children. And the actual live national debate has become about what might have been happening inside their mother's head. a question nobody can answer with certainty instead of the fact of what happened to them. That's not some random panelist going off script. That's her naming on air the exact thing we opened our last video asking about. What are women actually fighting for in this conversation to be seen, to be heard, to be understood? And somewhere in the middle of that fight, three children keep quietly disappearing from their own story. Y'all want to check out the rest of his video, uh, I'll link it down in the description, uh, Manosphere, but, uh, you can check it out if you want to. I'll say this, I'll say this in relations to the Crispen Wall situation, and I don't want to make this too long. Both situations are messed up. Both situations are tragic. Both situations had victims of people that they truly trusted and they end up losing their lives because of someone's mental psychosis just just out of there. Both of them. And sometimes people tend to forget that the victims should be the utmost important in this situation. what what Lindsay went through messed up mentally. Yeah, I get it. But it doesn't excuse the fact that children are no longer here that were under your care and looked up to you for protection are gone. Same thing with Chris Benwis. The only difference here is Chris Benwis is not here to serve time. She is. So, I I mean, both situations are horrible. I'm be honest with you, man. Uh I think they're still trying to figure out whether they're going to, you know, whether she's going to end up being, you know, convicted or not. They're still in deliberations cuz this it is a touchy subject. But I'm going be honest with you. Me personally, I I think she needs to serve some jail time. There needs to be some type of, you know, some type of like consequences for that. Yeah, I get it. She wasn't in the right mind, but that doesn't excuse it. Just like it doesn't excuse what Chris Benwis did. I know CT is a real thing. Oh, you can't blame him. Well, you still kind of have to because they are the ones that did it. Whether their mind was in the right place or not, that's that's another conversation and it does play into how everything transpired. But we can't just ignore that cuz if that's the case, it gets really slippery. We've seen this where people plead insanity, they do something wild, something heinous, and they're able to get off. And it's like, wait a minute. How what about the family? Because they don't get no real closure there when someone pleads going insane and doing something heinous and evil under the guise of I was just insane. No, it's not fair to the families. It's not fair to the loved ones. It's not fair to the people that lose their lives. And it's not just black and white. But I know there's some gray area there. Each case is very different. But when it comes to something like this where children lose their lives, a wife loses her life because of mental instability. Whether that mental instability is, you know, how strong and prevalent it is, there still needs to be some type of justice, man. So, I thought this would be an interesting video to kind of bring up because those cases are pretty similar. One is cut and dry. The other one is still kind of, you know, can be cut and dry, but she's alive to tell her story or her side of things. So, I don't know, man. Y'all let me know how y'all feel about this whole situation, the Lindsay uh Clancy situation in comparison to Chris and W and how everything played out there. But I appreciate all love and support. Before I end this video, if you know somebody, and I'm not sponsored by anyone, but I'm just saying this. If you know somebody that's going through something mentally and you can see something's not right, they're off. Hey man, don't be afraid. Even if you're they're your close friend, don't be afraid to talk to them or try to get them some help. If you see it, because there's a lot of times there's signs, but if you see it, try to help because you never really know where their mental state is to the point of what they're willing to do, you know? So that's that's the only thing I can say. If you're close to someone, you've seen them start spiraling out. Try to talk to them. Try to get them some help. They may not even want the help, but at least try to, you know, possibly, you know, prevent some of these type of situations from happening more. But appreciate all love, support, road to 200k. Appreciate y'all kicking in with me. See you on the next one. Peace.