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Naval Ravikant addresses whether fame is a worthwhile goal, acknowledging its benefits such as access to better social circles and high status while noting significant costs like a lack of privacy and the burden of constant performance. He argues that seeking fame for its own sake or craving it intensely creates traps that lead to hollow existence, whereas true value comes from earning respect by doing things beneficial to larger groups. Historically, the most famous individuals—such as Buddhas, Jesus, Muhammad, artists, scientists, and conquerors like Genghis Khan—are celebrated because they transcended self-interest to serve their tribes or humanity, suggesting that fame should be a byproduct of contributing to greater causes rather than an empty pursuit based merely on name recognition. A critical distinction Naval draws is between being wrong due to the nature of learning versus lying for status elevation. He emphasizes that all knowledge creation involves error correction and updating beliefs over time; therefore, changing one's mind or admitting mistakes is a sign of genuine growth rather than hypocrisy. However, he warns against "foolish consistency," where individuals feel trapped by their past public proclamations because they are afraid to admit errors or update their views. This fear often forces people into maintaining positions they no longer hold just to appear consistent, which Naval identifies as a character flaw that damages authenticity and traps the individual in a self-deceptive loop of lying to themselves and others. The transcript highlights a specific example where a successful business content creator stepped back from public life to avoid living up to his own exaggerated persona, illustrating how loud public declarations can make one a hostage to their past statements. Naval points out that while people are often wrong in new endeavors, the difference lies in intent: it is acceptable to be incorrect if there was a genuine belief behind the statement, but unacceptable to lie purposefully to elevate status or appearance. He notes that audiences have become hypersensitive to detecting disingenuousness, and those who try to impress masses with false personas often fail because they are trying to gain respect from people who do not care about them while alienating those who would genuinely appreciate the real person. Ultimately, Naval concludes that struggling to maintain a public image is futile if one does not truly embody it, as this effort prevents others from seeing and respecting their authentic selves. He suggests that true fame arises naturally when operating at higher levels of impact where more people are taken care of, even if those actions might seem tyrannical in the short term but benefit the collective long-term. The discussion underscores that authenticity is a rare commodity currently lacking in society because many seek to be seen as something they are not, leading to fragile fame built on performance rather than substance. By focusing on doing useful things for greater groups and accepting the dynamic nature of learning, individuals can achieve a form of respect and status that does not rely on deception or the fear of losing public favor.
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Is fame a worthwhile
goal? Uh, it gets you invited to better
parties, gets you into better
restaurants. Uh, fame, so fa fame is
this funny thing where a lot of people
know you, but you don't know them. And,
uh, it does get you put on a pedestal.
Uh, it can get you what you want uh, at
a at a distance. So, I wouldn't say it's
worthless. Obviously, people want it for
a reason. Um, it's high status, so it
attracts the opposite sex. Uh,
especially for men, it attracts women.
Uh that said, it is high cost. It means
you have no privacy. Um you do have
weirdos and lunatics. Uh you do get hit
up a lot for weird things. Uh and you're
on a stage, so you're forced to perform.
So you're forced to be consistent with
your past proclamations and actions, and
you're going to have haters and all that
nonsense. But the fact that we do it,
the fact that we all seem to want it
means that it would be disingenuous to
say, "Oh, no, no, I'm famous, but you
don't want to be famous." M um that
said, I think fame like anything else is
best produced as a or pursued as a
byproduct of something potentially more
worthwhile. Um wanting to be famous and
craving to be famous and being famous
for being famous. These are sort of
traps. Fame for fame's sake. Yeah,
exactly. So it's better that it's earned
fame. Uh so for example, earn respect in
the tribe is you do things that are good
for the tribe. Uh who are the most
famous people in human history? uh there
uh you know there there are people who
sort of transcended the self the Buddhas
and the Jesus's and the Muhammads of the
world who else is famous uh the artists
are famous you know art lasts for a long
time the scientists are famous they
discover thing the conquerors are famous
presumably because they conquered for
their tribe there was someone that they
were fighting for so generally the
higher up you rise by doing things for
greater and greater groups of people
even though it may be considered
tyrannical or negative like you
Jangaskhan is famous but uh to the
Mongols he was doing good to the rest of
them not so much.
Uh the higher level you're operating at
the more people you're taking care of
the more you sort of earn respect and
fame. And I think those are good reasons
to be famous. If if fame is empty, if
you're famous just cuz your name showed
up in a lot of places or your face
showed up in a lot of places, then
that's a hollow fame. And I think deep
down you will know that and so it'll be
fragile and you'll always be afraid of
losing it and then you'll be forced to
perform. Mhm. So the kind of fame that
pure actors and celebrities have I
wouldn't want. But the kind of fame
that's earned because you did something
useful uh why dodge that now you can.
There's a challenge I think especially
if people make uh very loud public
proclamations about things you mentioned
there about um you're almost a hostage
to the things that you used to say that
um being able to update your opinions
and change your mind looks very similar
to the internet as hypocrisy does no
difference between me saying something
in the past and saying something
different now is perhaps I've learned
perhaps I've updated my beliefs but so
few people do it in a legitimate way I
think the the grifter shill you you see
this is the the the smoking gun that
shows that he didn't really believe that
thing all along and uh yeah I I went to
a retreat in LA a couple of years ago
and there was a guy that I used to
follow that a big um business and
productivity advice content creator
really really successful and he just
totally stepped back from everything
went uh like monk mode and focused on
his business I asked him why and he said
uh I started feeling like I had to live
up to in private the things that I was
thing in public, right? Yeah, it's a
it's a what was it? The uh who said it
was a mein that um foolish consistency
is a hobgoblin of little minds, right?
Um but essentially, look, all life is
all learning is error correction, right?
Every knowledge creation system works
through correcting errors, making
guesses, and correcting errors. So, by
definition, if you're learning, you're
going to be wrong most of the time, and
you'll be updating your priors. And so,
for example, I did this Joe Rogan
podcast, I don't know, it's like eight
or nine years ago. Um, and people will
call out like the one thing that didn't
turn out to be correct, right? And it's
just like and they just beat on it
because it it helps them in their mind
raise their status a little bit. Aha, I
caught him in an error. Well, I think if
you catch someone in a blatant lie where
there's believe one thing and they say
another, that's legit. That's a
character flaw. They shouldn't be lying.
But on the other hand, if they just made
a guess at something and they got it
wrong, and by the way, mostly it's about
the AI AGI thing. And I think I'm still
right about that, but it's a different
story. Um people who think we have
achieved AGI just fail a touring test
from their side. Um but
uh it's funny how people latch on to
single proclamations. But the reality is
all of us are dynamical systems. We're
always changing. We're always learning.
We're always growing. And uh hopefully
we're correcting errors. What you don't
want to be doing is lying in public so
that because you're you're trying to
look good. And I think people can smell
that. I I I what this world really lacks
right now is authenticity and because
everybody wants something. They want to
be seen as something. They want to be
something that they're not. And so you
do catch a lot of people uh saying
things that they don't really believe.
And I think people are very sensitive to
that. Uh radars have become
hypersensitized to try and work out
whether or not this person means the
thing that they're saying. Yeah. I mean
they they a lot of people are wrong.
Most of us are wrong most of the time
especially in any new endeavor.
Difference between being wrong and
disingenuous though, purposefully wrong.
Correct. Exactly. So I think I think
that's the big difference. If someone is
wrong, no big deal as long as they have
a genuine reason for saying what they're
saying or believing what they're
believing. But if they are lying to
elevate their status or their appearance
or to live up to some expectation,
that's the mistake. And that's a mistake
not just for the listener, it's a
mistake for themselves cuz then you're
going to get trapped in a hall of
mirrors. You yourself are going to be
consistent with your past proclamations.
So if you're lying to others, you're
going to be lying to yourself. You're
puppeted by a person that you are not
even. That's right. Yeah. It's it's like
what was that line? There's you're
you're basically trying to impress
people who you know don't care about
you. Um so they don't like the real you.
And if they saw the real you, they
wouldn't care. And the people who would
like the real you don't get to see the
real you. So they pass you by, right?
You only want the respect of the very
very few people that you respect. Uh
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