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I'm so sorry, fellas. That's totally my fault. I don't I don't think anybody saw that. If they did, it's okay. It's not that big a deal. So, all righty. Well, thank you all for being here. Sorry we're late. We had a little glitch. Had to get that taken care of and now we're back. So, what we're doing is, of course, another live uh thing this week. If you have any questions, just put them over in the chat. We'll see them and we'll answer your questions. So, just let us know what they are. All right. We're still waiting on Chase. He hadn't showed up yet, but we have to go on time with this. So, um >> I don't see it still. >> Yeah, we're on. Yeah, it's >> good. Sure. >> Sure. >> Yeah, I see it now. Thank you. Yep. >> We got Pandora Wake saying hello here. Lots of people saying hello. Hi, guys. Good morning. >> Welcome back. >> Sorry you all. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're a little bit late. We're all a little bit late to the game. Chase is slightly later than everybody else to the game here today. >> He slept in today. >> They slept in. And uh but yeah, if you guys got questions for us, then uh put them in the chat here, please do. So yeah, guys, we were just talking about UK, Scotland, all over that part of the world, and now we have people from there. So great news. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Got a few questions. Uh, somebody asked me, "Greg, you're in Columbus, right?" No, I'm not in Columbus. That's a good answer. >> I'm in Atlanta. >> All the places you're not. >> Yep. >> Um, Alrighty. What' you guys do this week? Has it been a good week for you guys? >> Yeah, I just been working. Just be on working. >> All right. Here's one. Uh, this is from at C88845. My question is, what uh what were you doing in the live that you just had a minute ago? Okay. I put a I put a title on there that shouldn't have been on there. Sometimes I put a title on our um Zoom meetings and they're not for everybody, but I put it on there and it I didn't realize it would go out of the live thing. when you go live, whatever the Zoom is called, which was a snarky little thing from Scott, went on and it was just kind of inappropriate. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you feel Lindsay, this is from Chris Stack 1102. Do you believe Lindsay is telling the truth about being in psychosis? I don't know. >> We can't tell. We haven't talked to her. We don't know. We We don't even have footage of her talking about. We We just know what we hear from the media. And guys, to be fair, and each of us would tell you this, we don't go spend hours and hours and hours trying to learn the case. It's just not what we do. We're reading what's in front of us. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of complexity to that, isn't it? And that's why you should need many, many, you know, expert opinions on that within psychology and psychiatry, maybe more importantly, to try and work that out. And then a a jury essentially. >> Yeah. And you know, Mark, I I usually say to people, I'm not a psychologist, not a not a mental health professional. I used to say, we're psychology tax. We take what we learn from psychology and psychiatry, and we use it to our advantage. But we're not those people. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Here's one from Sarah Nicole. And I guess she's in India. And it says, uh, and she asks, "What do you all think about the Lindsey Clansancy trial?" Mark, what do you got? >> The Lindsay. So, so that was the one that we did where there is this question of of of a psychotic break for her. What do I think of the trial? You know, the reality is is I haven't followed the trial, so I don't really really know. I mean, what I think of the of the footage of uh of the husband that's on the episode. Go look at the episode. If you've looked at that episode, my answer doesn't help you at all cuz I I literally haven't seen her um on the stand. So, I don't really have any uh opinion on on this. Right. >> And when we talk about the trial, the trial is that's legal proceedings. That's entanglement with the government. That has little to do with what a person is normally like. You know, we coach people. We do jury selection ourselves. So, we know it's about process and legality and that kind of thing. And the the attorney's job is just to get enough doubt that you couldn't convict the person. So, look, we we aren't lawyers. We got some great lawyer clients. We'd ask Barnes what he thinks of the trial be a different story. >> That's what we should have done >> for me. For me, what I like is us looking at what we see on the on the stand because remember, we're talking about baselining a person who is in a not normal person, not normal place and then looking at their deviation. If we don't get enough footage, we can't do anything with it. So, that's all I'd say. But, hey, there's a great question right here. >> Text Barnes and see if he'll come on and talk to us about that. Now, all we do got to do is send him a link. >> That's true. You give me one second. There's one question I do want to answer. Some Enoch asked a question. And I have a nervous tick that gets worse. And I'm going to paraphrase cuz I can't find the question. It gets worse when I'm under stress. Here's my number one secret trick for people that have never heard it. Curl your toes in your shoes. What we call stress relief is an adapter. The way we release nervous energy, playing with a ring, doing that kind of thing. And if you're wearing closed toed shoes, you can do that in front of people and they won't know. And merely remembering I told you to do it cause your thinking brain to come back online and does away with your need to release all that nervous energy. Mark, you got one or Scott? >> Uh, yeah. Look, I mean, the the reality for me would be is you probably know the situations that cause you to be more stressed than others. In fact, they're probably in your diary. You're probably having a look at your calendar and go, "Oh, that that situation stresses me out." So, use that technique that Greg was telling you about way before that event as well. So, you're starting to uh you're starting the behavior even before the event has started to trigger the the stress. I'm not saying that that will work, but being preemptive can be helpful for some, >> I would say. >> Okay. Have you all watched This is from Dad Gamut. Hang on a second. I just lost this one. Uh, have you analyzed Oh, Dad Gamut. It's about that Micah Miller thing with JP Miller. Yeah, we haven't done that one. It's on my list actually of ones we should do. Maybe we'll do it next week. It's, you know, there's so much stuff out there on that one. I found it really interest. Go ahead. >> Uh, I did I did a video on it already. It's pretty good, man. We should do that one. >> Okay. >> I did one where I tal where I talk, he does an interview with a news guy and everything's there. So, we should do that one, too. >> Okay. I'll pull it. I'll pull it. Here's a really good one. What's the number one? And you guys will have different opinions. I've been interviewed a a boatload of people myself. But what's the number one thing to remember when you're going for a job interview? Mark, it's addressed to you, but let's all cover that one. >> So, so the number one thing I would be thinking about is can you take up the territory that is yours? So maximize rather than minimize, but but only within the territory that's yours. So, for example, at my desk at the moment, all of this is mine, but I'm fairly minimized because I want to get close to the the camera lens. But if I were in an interview, I'd just take a little more space, which is mine. It's not the interviewer's space. I just take up a little more space that is actually mine. That will make me even more predictable because you can see more of me. It'll show that I'm confident in my territory. That will cause the interviewer to feel more confident in me. And it's simple to do. I can like literally go in a room and go, "Okay, just take up a little more space." That's the way I'd go. Scott, what are your thoughts on >> Yeah. Well, one thing that that that I would teach entrepreneurs when I was dealing with with that situation is when you go to a meeting, whether you're being hired or where you're meeting, whether you're meeting with uh uh investors, whatever's going on, when they come in, straightens something up just a little bit on you. Not much. There was a study done I think by IBM a while back and when people came in and would would when the main person would come in if the person wasn't going to stand up or anything wherever they did if it was okay for them to be seated they would just straighten their jacket a little bit and sit up a little bit because that lets them know subconsciously you respect them because you're trying to it's called pining and so you're trying to look a little bit better for them. It shows you respect them. So I would add that little little bit of it. nothing big and huge and make a big scene and deal about it, but you know, just kind of do something like that really quick because what they found out was that person was more likely to be hired or thought of better when they reviewed their their notes on that person. Greg, it's a sales pitch. Always a sales pitch, but the thing that I've seen most people make a mistake is if you're a pontificator and you're in a in a job interview and somebody asks you a question, you go, "Well, that does not look good." So, it's about keeping that space closed between them. And both what both the guys have just said is about that Mark's about engaging and controlling your space and about making contact with the person. But look, they're asking you questions about what you know. You know what you know. The part you need to be careful about is that they understand that you've created a framework. I call rapport a framework for transfer of information. That's an important part of what you need to do is make sure they speak the language you speak. They understand the things you understand. You clarify when they don't understand. And I've interviewed a bunch of corporate guys, a bunch of finance guys, bunch of companies, and the biggest mistake they often make is they want to preach to you from a distance. You got to connect with the person they're talking to. >> Here's a here's a good one I've just found here, which which uh could do with an answer. How would you suggest controlling your expressions in an environment with someone you don't like? Yeah. Uh uh if they are cognizant of body language and observant. So, let's So, the person is not only saying, "Hey, you don't like them," but the person is saying here, "And they're actually might be quite good at telling whether you like them or or not." Uh, Scott, why don't you uh kick off with that one? >> Um, I this sounds weird and it sounds like, well, of course you would do that. If I have to to sit with someone that I don't like or go somewhere with someone I don't like or just even talk to that person I don't like, I just change my mind about them for that brief amount of time. and I like that person, you know, I'm like, "Hey, man, what's going on?" They would never know that I don't like them. That sounds horrible and sounds manipulative and all that, but that's what I would do if I had to if I was in a situation where a lot of people I don't I have to talk to for for work. I don't like those people and what they've done, stealing a bunch of money from somebody or something. I don't like those people, but I can't act that way. So, you have to go in and and I just pretend like I automatically like them. Just put on your face and and have at it. just treat them like a normal person and put all that other stuff in the back of your mind. It's so hard to do. It's so easy for me to say, "Here's what you do." But that's the way you do it or that's the way I do it anyway. That's why I would suggest giving that a shot. >> I'm going to say something that would be a political hot potato for somebody. But I look up to one guy who saved the Western world in my opinion and that is Winston Churchill who famously said, "If you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite." So being polite all the rest of your life is a powerful tool. I'm in fact polite to people I don't like because it cost me nothing. I had a friend who once said, "People think you're nice because you're so polite." >> Yeah, there's a question about me growing a mustache in there. I lost a bet. I don't want to talk about it, but I have to do this for another week. So, I may be we may be on our show on another show with me having this on here. I'm not a beard person. I'm not this I can shave everything else, but I can't shave this area here. So, it looks stupid. >> It's working. I think it's obviously it's working very well, but you can't even see it so bad. But anyway, so that's what's going on. Two, three people have asked that so far. >> Somebody asked a question that we get all the time, but we got lots of new people, and thank you for having new people around. They ask, "How do we pick the videos?" It really boils down to we go look for something that is different than everything we've ever done. >> Who goes and looks? >> Me mostly. >> Yeah. So, I go look for videos that have a different behavior. Look, there's going to be consolidations of other behaviors we've seen, but we have been pretty good to date, at least in my opinion, about finding new behavior patterns in people that may tie a lot of things together. And I'll pull those videos, give it off to Scott. He'll cut up the segments that I give us and put them in a box. What you're watching when you watch our show is not us coming on with a rehearsed any answer. We've never talked about the case. We're talking about it for the first time when you watch us. In fact, Scott, if we start talking about something, he'll say, "Stop. Let's hold that for the video. So, it's you're watching it fresh from us when you see us talk. >> Somebody's asking how they email us. It's the behavior panel at Gmail. Just the behavior panel@gmail.com and we'll get No, we not keep in mind. That doesn't mean we we'll be able to read it because we get so many it takes forever. Some of them I go through there and it's those things been there a month or more, you know. So, and there we literally literally get thousands of emails every week. So, but I want to read them. We We all want to read them. We're interested in what you have to say. So, if you have a question, send it to us. And um but don't expect it to be timesensitive if it's something that I need to know now. It's probably not going to happen now, but we'll get to it. >> So, somebody here saying, "Which courses do we do we recommend uh of of of our own?" Well, obviously all of them. Uh so listen, get yourselves over to the behavior panel.com and you'll find over there there's there's um links to our our training and also links to uh the behavior panel live which is a live show that we did many many years ago now actually but there's some great content on there that we all did together and you can take that training there. So the behavior panel.com is the best place to go to get hold of all of our trainings. >> We ought to do that again. That live event was a lot of fun. We met a lot of good people. We should do it again. If you if you guys agree, put a note down below if you'd be interested in us doing a live event. >> That was fun. >> That was fun. So many people. Everybody showed up. Gosh, that was fun. >> Yeah, it was fun. And guys, if we do it again, we we'd like to have a bigger space so we can even bring more people in. It was nice to meet everybody though and spend time with them. >> Yeah. Uh again, people asking where's where's where's Chase? He's doing some training at the moment and my guess is he's trying to get off doing the training and get away from that to to get here. Listen, if he can come, he'll he'll get here. Y if he can't, he can't get here at the moment, but he'll be doing his best. >> But we we didn't we didn't kill him or do anything un toward No, of course not. Of course not. No, he's not. He's not hidden in Scott's garden somewhere. Don't Don't think anybody thinking he's hidden deep in Scots the forest behind Scots. >> We don't have to talk about >> That's not where he is. That's not where he is at all. >> We don't have to talk about that anymore, do we, Mark? No. >> I bet there's been a lot of weather over here. Why? I don't know why you brought it up. >> Scott says he's playing with the squirrels. He's out back. >> Yeah, >> he's out back. Um, let's see here. Where's a good one? I'm near Mark. That's from Kim Kim Razer one. >> Hey Kim, where are where are you near me? Like where where are like literally are you >> looking in the window? No, >> I can't. No, you're not there. You're not there at the moment. Uh, but yeah, if you're in to if you're downtown Toronto anywhere, you're very near me. Everybody in Toronto is is near me. So yeah, we're seeing a lot of comments from people about things that this encouraged them to do something different. Go back to psychology, go back to sales or do something new. Hopefully, guys, everything we're trying to do here. Yeah, we enjoy getting together and doing our show, but we hope that we're giving you something in the process because if we're just standing here talking about the same thing over and over and over, it would get old. And if you, by the way, in the past two days, I've gotten about 10 recommendations for videos, that's good because you guys are sending me stuff that you are looking at and I'll go look at it and say, is it different enough for us to do it? But what we're trying to do is to give you something else. Looks like Will Weatherington says, "I'm near Greg." Where are you at, Will? >> Hey, here's here's a good one. Um, somebody's asking here, "Are there any books with illustrations for intro to body language that you'd recommend?" Yeah, absolutely. So, we'll come to Scott's book in a moment. But here's here's illustrations that I don't recommend is if you go like to to um to F Julius F is it Jul is it I can't even illustrations. But I mean some of the older books are like this is just terrible illustr what what is the way they smoke? It's like well who smokes any like who are you talking about? Who smokes anymore? Um interest I don't usually advocate my books but if it interests you this is full of pictures and full of not just pictures of individuals but interaction between individuals. Yeah and >> it was a book I put together with Maryanne and we had models we used some shutter stock kind of stuff and then we used real models that we brought in and I think there's some good value in that. Yeah, I mean, you know, my book, Winning Body Language, the first book, has has all kinds of interesting uh biblical biblical illustrations. >> It is a great book. I mean, it's a one of one of a kind and and a lot of stuff which is just kind of showing >> silhouettes showing silhouette because that's what the instinct is picking up. Anyway, in in my view, the best illustrations in body language is is uh Scott's book, Understanding Body Language, >> which the illustrations are just they're just really You can't see them well here. >> I did those myself. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like you did. >> You're so the guy that did that stuff was awesome. >> Brilliant illustrations just because they're helpful and they're more there's more variety in the people there. So, you're more likely to go, "Oh, yeah, that's that person's a bit like me." Rather than a lot of illustrations, you kind of go, "That's nothing like I can't even associate with." Scott, I got a Nashville related story for you. When I was writing my dating book, >> uh, the date decoder for women, I went into Robert's Western World in Nashville and took photos of guys, you know, trying to hit on women and stalking and and had that turned a line drawings and people wrote back that was helpful for them, seeing a guy posture when he shouldn't and all. >> Oh, man. It's very It's very hard to create really good illustrations because you're so much more likely not to get it right than you are to get it right. It's it's it's >> tough. They asked they they said, "Look, you just send us the pictures of of um what you see as body language and we'll take care of it from there." So, I got this big colle and what I did was use pictures of people from the entrepreneur center because that's what I had I had a bunch of pictures from when I was there, you know, working with entrepreneurs and there were people that were buddies of mine that would be that would be uh doing training or teaching a class or something and I'd send in a picture of them or that or somebody would be pitching and they turn it into a woman or they turn it into, you know, somebody completely different than them. But I was saying, "Dude, they're going to use this picture I've got of in my book." They're, "Oh, I'm so psych." came out. This one buddy, m he's like this little old lady. He's a little, you know, he's a little old lady. It's just it's not even him, but she's doing everything he was doing. That was so funny. >> Yeah. One of my favorite photos I have of Annie, I use it in my in my body language training, is Maryanne and I talked to Maryanne talked to this 15-year-old girl to come to us in the book. Last thing my 40-year-old personality was going to do was that. And we told her we'd be there at X time, like 5:00. We show up at 5:20 and she's pissed already. So, we got great body language out of her. Those are my >> always always go back to uh man watching now now I think called people watching and just you know one of the things that got me it's so hard to see one of the things that got me into that is just the illustrations are varied and the photographs are are great >> um you know Morris it's Desmond Morris so he's Greg's >> hero you know what he's talking about >> Desmond Morris is Greg's >> great pictures great pictures >> what his spirit animal >> he's my spirit animal my hero is again, Churchill, but yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um but but yeah, look, there was another one in here. Somebody just asked a question I thought was good. Uh hold on. >> For those of us who work on the phone, can you talk about what to listen for? I always say big ears, little eyes. I listen more than I look. So I look for cadence. When a person's talking, then they have a normal cadence. I talk real fast for a southern boy. But you talk normally. If they speed up that you listen, there's some stress going on when a person speeds up or they've overprepared for the conversation. Back to job interviews. They've overprepared. They're going to spit it out falling all over themselves. If they slow down and navigate language, it means something else. It means internal voice. They're having a conversation. What do you guys got for that one about over the phone? >> I like to listen. >> So, no, you go ahead. Let's go. >> No, Ar. Go ahead. >> No, you go ahead. >> I like to listen for what's going on around in that situation. Sometimes people say, "I'm here. I'm there. I'm so and so, but if you listen closely, you'll be able to tell what's going on around them. That'll help you put them in an environment that may uh have something to do with the way they're talking. They may be talking a little bit loud, but if you don't hear what's going on around them, you may not uh take that in consideration. You may think something's up there or they're being quiet. Are they in a house? They a little room, big room, are they in you hear a lot of reverb going on? Is there are they in a church and they're trying to be real quiet or there's a lot of people around? They don't want to hear them. So, I take those things into consideration. >> God has dog ears. However, let me tell you this. Yesterday we were on a call and I was walking with my laptop through my through my kitchen and he said, "Put some shoes on." I was walking barefoot and he could hear my bare feet on tile. This guy's got dog ears, so don't think you're going to hear what he hears. >> So, here's the reality of me in the phone. I don't talk on the phone. I talk to Greg. Greg, I'll talk to you now and again, right? >> Um, so there's only a a handful of people that I'll pick up the phone to. Uh, I used to work in in in in politics. Still do now and again. And you get very used to going I'm not going to pick up the phone. I don't know until I know exactly what's going on here. I am not going to say anything. So I don't I don't talk on the on the phone. I I in fact I try and talk to as few people as possible ever. Any >> in the business of teaching social skills? >> Yeah. That's a >> It makes you really not want to talk to people. >> It is a Yeah, it's a shoemaker's children situation, >> right? >> Yeah. Somebody else just had a really good one here. I was want to Oh, when a person when a person has a very delayed response to a question before answering, what does that mean? Let you guys hit it and then I'll cover my >> Yeah. I mean, look, you know, my instant reaction to that is they may be thinking about it. So, so the question is is what are you what are they thinking about it? You know how and and also what's your expectation? So delayed like what do you mean delayed? Delayed by whose account of delayed by what? So how are we judging delayed? So first of all we've got to go was this actually delayed or or am I in a bit of a hurry or have I got other expectations for how long this should take them to to um to to give a response? And if it is delayed, what do I think that delay might be about? And I would jump immediately to how could I ask them what the if I'm really interested in the delay, how could I ask them about that? And if they gave me a rep me a reply, how would I judge if that reply is honest or not? So I don't think that helps anybody. But it's critical thinking first of all. >> Greg, Greg, you get >> So I'll give you a great example. I did uh you guys if you haven't seen I did an interview with Doug Bops this week and he's put out just 10 minutes of it but he's going to put out a whole hour video and at one point I asked him a question or I'm talking and I can see him drop into his down left start doing internal voice raise one left shoulder and I said yeah so right now you're feeling uncomfortable about how that's going to be perceived by your audience and he's like how'd you know you you can see that well because our brains do work to Mark's point at different speeds some people I I talk fast. I think a little faster than I talk, I hope. But some people, like I have a dear friend in New Jersey, you ask him how he's doing today, it'll take him 30 seconds to come up with an answer. It's his baseline. It's his norm. So, we look for those deviations and look for why. Anytime someone's asking you a question and it's outside of a normal everyday politeness, you're probably going to process why are they asking me the question? What should the answer be based on the relationship? And respond. Some of us do that very rapidly, others very slowly. Scott, what do you >> you Yeah, you just explained what I was going to say in in a lot simpler form because when let's say you're looking for deception. Is this person telling me the truth or not? You've got a question. Whatever the question is about what's just happened, something taken, whatever it is, your brain has to do three things when you're when you're going to lie. It has to to stop and keep you from telling the the truth about something because your brain goes, "Hey man, you shouldn't be doing this. Hang on just a second." Then you have to create that lie. You have to make it up. And so that takes just a little bit and it happens really really fast. But then you have to deliver the lie. That's why most everything is happening in in the delivery. That's where all the action happens except for that small little space. And when people talk, there's this flow that happens. It just kind of goes along. And when you feel a break in that flow and there's that pause, then you go, "Huh, what was happening there?" Because you that lets you know there's some kind of structuring, some kind of thinking, some kind. But like everybody else was saying, it could be something where you're figuring figuring something out. What is the if I added that to that, what would that mean? So that could be going on. So there's a lot of different reasons, but you do want to pay attention, especially in an interrogation situation. If that person pauses for and depends on the question as well. So there's so much that comes into play on in in the in the pause before answering. So >> here's a good one. Scott, what have you done with Chase? It doesn't matter. He's fine. I'm sure he's fine. You know, he's probably doing well. You know what I mean? >> There was there was somebody put in here, they think they're seeing a lot of deception in us when we talk about Chase on here. >> We did not do anything. Absolutely. >> I don't know what you're talking about. >> We probably didn't do anything. >> He is not buried in the back of Scott's forest. >> We usually have Chase with us >> and he quit using my name with it, but serious. But yeah, he's probably fine, you know. Probably doing great right now. I tell you, it's a lot of weather we're having here, though. Is it hot where you are, fellas? >> Uh, let's see. >> For those of us who work on the phone, can you talk about what? Okay, we are that one. Okay. Sorry, I'm all squished up in there. >> Um, uh, let's see. >> He's swimming with the chipmunks, somebody says. Yeah, Scott Scott does not Scott does differentiate between the chipmunks and the squirrels. >> He treats them very differently. >> Yeah. Well, you you you met some of them. I've got a video on my Instagram of Greg actually feeding a chipmunk. One ran right up to him. Stumpy. He's the one and his name is Stumpy because he lives under a stump and you can call him to you. You call for him. He'll hear he'll come. We do it. You'll see it on that if you watch that on that on the video I did. It kind of freaked you out. I thought squirrels do the same thing. you know. >> Okay. Let's see what else. >> Um guys are asking when we're going to put out a new course. Mark said I we've got a master course really that we call the live event. I don't know if you call it u it's all of us talking about our way of doing and it's got some consolidation. I think the behavior panel course that's probably the one we have out right now and each of us have courses out there floating around on our own our own platforms. But I think when you're talking about the behavior panel, there's a lot of hours of us standing in front of an audience and talking. >> If that's valuable to you. >> Let's see. >> Yeah, this is it takes a minute. >> I mean, people are asking here about the our thoughts on the royal family, uh, obviously. And, um, do we think, uh, you know, somebody's asking, do we think royalty will survive in in the UK? Uh, so let's take a quick obviously I'll hand this to our our royal expert Scott Rouse in just one >> just one second. >> We'll get we'll get we'll get the gossip columns, you know. So >> I just show up. Kinsey Scoffield knows all that stuff and I just answer questions she asks me. That's all it is. But I am a little bit worried about whether Megan's going to fit in over there or not now because I think maybe she's going to come back, but I can't tell. I know we were talking about this for about an hour before we started this and Mark has some thoughts on what he thinks could happen to Megan and Greg's just been worried. He's been crying all morning about >> every day I I cry hero. One of the guys he looks one of the guys he looks up to and takes after, you know, and your mannerisms are just spoton for what he does, you know? He's just adorable. Well, that's your words, not mine. >> But um >> everybody knows that's me. >> Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen over there. I mean, you want it's it's funny watching them now because their behavior had the way he moves. Anyway, just today a video came out of him at the I'm not talking about this stuff. I can't get into it, but he did come out at the Invict Invictus Games and let somebody ask him some questions that he looks a little bit more reserved to me. Mark, have you seen those? What do you think? >> Yeah, look, here's what I know about royalty in the in the UK is that it's been around for a long long time. It goes in cycles like everything else. uh even when it has um disappeared, there was the restoration pretty fast on from that. So you get you get cycles of of enjoyment of royalty and use and and not so much. But it's it's cyclical, but it's always been around. And and if I were to gamble, I would gamble that it it stays because um because that's the the asinance of of cyclical history. Greg, you got some history for us. You want to go? >> Yeah. Know, I could go on and on about English history or the history. UKa, it's my I was saying to Mark, most of those books back there are history. I'm a history fan if you can't tell by the sword on the wall and all that other stuff. And a lot of my time is spent on history of the British Isles. So, yeah. >> Yeah. All right. Um, but I don't I don't think the roy I don't think royalty is going to go away, man. was too much in that that too many people are into it and respect it and go, "Hey, man, here's what we" And they're proud of it a lot. >> It's a huge part of the culture. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you could have You could, but I, you know, England wouldn't be as cool if you didn't have that, you know. Uh, >> oh, now you just defended half of our >> Yeah. I don't >> Here's something here's something really interesting here. Does Botox interfere with your ability to read cues? Now I'm going to let's go to to what I think that question is about which is does it does Botox make it difficult for um for somebody to be read but also understand if you have Botox if you have it yourself uh it causes potentially some difficulties in other people reading you and the phone goes both ways. So, so communication is is is relational. Uh, but also, you know, explore uh some of the research on Botox and say depression and how not being able to instinctually, you know, put your face into this position actually, so some of the research says actually can make you feel better in in many ways. So changing the outside of how you're presenting yourself can change how you feel inside. Uh some of that is what we'd call embodied cognition in that the way that the outside environment is performing ultimately decides how you're performing internally. So nice nice question there Greg. >> Yeah I would add to that guys. I call this the billboard of emotion because you can read I mean I can move my forehead all kinds of ways. I can do grief muscle and all that, but we all use our forehead to signal other people. You know, a quick brow up. I recognize you. Hey, come on over here. Skepticism. There's all kinds of ways we use our brow. And when that is gone, you lose the ability to message and you have to pick up some other way. I mean, Mark is Mark makes a living at teaching people to be masterful at making their body say what their mouth is saying. Well, when you lose all that, it gets tougher. I mean, if you I'm not going to point out presidents or individuals. All you got to do is go look at politicians. And when they lose that, they have to do something else. They have to move the rest of their body. That's why you get this televangelist thing. And when you can have a stoic face, it's harder for people to read. It's hard for people to feel comfortable around you. It makes people very people think half the time I would be a mean guy to deal with because I have a flat affect when I'm listening to other people talk. It you've got to know when to signal and when not to. If you don't have that capability, you lose the ability to connect with other people. Scott. >> Yeah. Paul Eggman did the studies. Mark is talking about when he talks about even if you smile, it makes you feel better on the inside. And that's why people always go smile, you'll feel better. Well, guess what? If you smile, you're going to feel better. And if you go out in the when you walk out the door, if you put a smile on your face like Greg does every day, just smile real big and head out the door. I >> I do it once a day at least. >> Go, world. Here we go. It's another Because I've heard him say when he comes out, which shocked me, it's another wonderful day for Greg. Your words again, Greg, not mine. And that's what that's what you say. So if you smile or you're going to you're going to that emotion will uh be generated. In other words, if you frown, that emotion will be a little bit of that emotion will be generated. So and if you'll do it yourself if you'll if you'll do it right now, you'll see what I'm talking about because it actually affects you. So it it's obviously the the the emotions are are from inside but these and they show up outside but when you start making those things it triggers them to to emote triggers you to emote that emotion every how little. So I always thought that was fascinating. >> So Scott there's somebody here already given $10 to the free chase now uh Kickstarter. >> You know what he's probably fine I don't know how many times that to say >> in that tarp. Yeah. Listen, if on on free chase if we can get up to like a $100, uh, we'll let him out the box. How about that? >> He's not in a box. >> We will. We will. >> Oh, wait. Here he is. Here he is. >> There he is. Just fine. There he is. >> He's fine. He's fine. >> All right. Get back in the box. Get back in the box. >> He's fine. >> Yeah. Listen, if you if we make it to $100 on free chase now, we will get him back out of the box. And there's uh somebody's put a a question in here and given us Z14. I don't know what that currency is. So I don't know whether that's a that's a fortune or a or a pittance. >> Oh yeah. 14 something. >> 14 something which thank you very much for that. Really appreciate that. Your dream interviews or people to analyze. Oh yeah. >> What would you say to that? >> There's there's a guy I want to get my hands on but we can't get to him because we're not media professionals. And that is Jeffrey McDonald from the Vision Quest killings in the 60s. Right in the 70s, sorry. Right after the murders by the Manson family. This guy's wife and daughter was daughters were killed in on Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I've driven by the house 100 times. He's in a prison. I think he's in in dire straits now healthwise. I'd love to be able to get to him and ask him questions and actually analyze. So, if you have connections or you know someone and you can get me in there to talk to Jeffrey McDonald, we'll promise you an analysis of his body language after that video. That's that's my number one. He was a he was a Green Bay doctor during the Vietnam War. >> Good. Uh here's where I'd go with this one. not necessarily an individual or an individual that I kind of can can pinpoint, but what I'd love us to analyze on the behavior panel is more of this stuff around psychics and so forth. I like that. Here's where I'd like to go. >> Is this spirit speaking to you? >> Spirit is speaking to me. Oh my god. >> Spirit is speaking. Yeah. So, so more psychics. >> Um, >> let's do it. you know, and and I'd love to do there's a lot of really interesting telekinesis stuff happening happening out there which I think would be fascinating to uh analyze. Fascinating. >> I have to say now I've seen a lot of funny stuff. I've hung around a lot of funny people. I've made a lot of comedy records that have that have done really well. And you'd know what some of them are if you're from the South anyway. And one of the funniest things I've ever seen, I'd say one of my top fives happened a few months ago when we were at Crime Con and Mark went into his Don't do it now because they'll ruin it for me. He went into his his imitation of somebody who could tell the future of of a spiritualist or what do you call those people, Mark? What are they called? >> Yeah. Yeah. Medium. >> Medium. Yeah. So, he went into this thing and we we we had the at crime call and they have these meetings where we do these VIP meetings. We get to meet with people. They get to sit in there and talk with us for a few minutes and then everybody gets up and you know then they leave and they send in somebody else. Everybody has these little rooms that are marked off for them. You know the we had one other people had one and there was this one room that was set up the one next to us. If you open up it's just a little curtain. You saw many of these little box rooms of you know with a curtain on you. You open it up and there's a table sitting there and there's a chair here that's facing toward the door and there's a chair there for one other person. Right. And Mark went over there and sat down and there's this thing in the middle. It looked kind of like a crystal ball. I should have gotten a picture of this thing. >> Mark sat there and started and started >> good my goodness. That was a funny because he went off on being and he just had everything just all the terms, all the stuff. It was asking all the right questions. >> Man, it was funny. >> Thanks to Scott, thanks to Scott, I got to make Jeff Foxworthy laugh one time. This is a funny story. And I won't tell you what the note said. Tell you what he said. I won't tell you what the note said. Totally inappropriate, but great. So I told Scott, "Hey, your buddy Foxworthy is on a plane." He said, "Go up and talk to him." And I said, "I'm not going to bug him." And he said, "Well, give him this note." So I wrote something on a piece of paper. Walked up and I said, "Sir." And he turned around like, "Oh, hell. I don't want to be bugged." And I said, "Do you know Scott Rouse?" He said, "In fact, I do." And I handed him the note and he busted out and laughed and he said, "You can tell Langworthy." You I mean, you tell Scott, you boys made me laugh out loud on a plane. So >> Oh, man. >> My only time I've ever made a comedian laugh. >> Yeah. He's hilarious. And that, you know what, even though he's one of the, believe it or not, he's a comedian all that, but believe it or not, man, that cat is hilarious. If you're doing like the one-on-one funny stuff, that that's hard to beat. I've been around comedians. My brother's hilarious. >> My brother makes me laugh out loud. >> Holy smokes. I've never seen you laugh that hard. I don't think >> I don't think I've laughed that hard in a lot of years. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, he's hilarious, man. And he can make the thing about my brother is he can tell you what to do to make you funny and you to do funny stuff. >> Yeah, >> he's funny. >> But he does TV shows and makes TV shows and movies. So that's the >> Okay, here's here's something interesting here. Lewis boxing. Um, any EUO experiences you have analyzed who showed authentic compelling signs of recall trauma even if the event itself seemed impossible? Yeah. go back in our catalog who you'll remind me of the name of the guy but we guy >> Tom Yep. >> Yeah. >> live interview. Live interview. >> Yeah. Tom Reed, you know, if I were to precy it is telling a story that in his mind is absolutely true and and comes across to us as honesty. Now obviously we could put forward or not all kinds of things about okay so it obviously feels true to him but maybe that doesn't mean it's actually factual. Of course that but there's a great example of somebody who is telling the truth from their point of view about uh an encounter. So look at that. >> I'll tell you I just talked to somebody recently and he he's willing to come on the show. We'll probably bring him on who is in that same area 2 miles give or take from where that happened to Tom all those years ago who has had a similar experience and I know this guy I've known him since he was a child and he seems believable to me now we haven't been face to face and any of that but he's willing to come and talk to us collectively so I think we're going to do that one as well. >> Oh I met with Tom once you all know that story went scared the out of me because this guy was telling me some things we' met we were meeting somebody else. >> Yep. And as he was telling me this stuff, I could see it on him that this had really happened and as we could in the video when we when we interviewed him. But when you sit there and talk to that guy like one-on-one and you see the these expressions that he was horrified. >> Yeah, it was all there. Man, that scared me to death. Every time I go outside and it's dark, I start looking around after that. >> You need to watch out for the squirrels. If you're not feeding them well, you're going to get a mutiny there. So, the key is is to watch that with Tom Reed and then watch our Bigfoot episode, uh, which I can't remember the name of the guy or the guys who are involved in that. >> Willie. Mike Willie. >> Mike Willy. >> Yeah. >> And and note the difference between the two, >> but don't don't blow it for him because his first interview is brilliant. >> Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Now, I went to the Bigfoot uh what was it called? The >> in Blue Ridge. >> Yeah. Oh, you went to Bigfoot festival. I remember. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. And you know what I found out there about Bigfoot? >> Very few people there believe in Bigfoot. They're all there for the fun of it. It was the best time. >> I went and took a picture of Greg and had and held up this picture of these people or had them hold his picture and then sent him pictures of people who were like dressed up like with Bigfoot or whatever. All kinds of pictures and stuff. That's on my Instagram as well. But that was I realized a lot about that. There wasn't a bunch of people together going, "Oh, you know, I saw Bigfoot." None of that. I didn't hear anybody saying that. Everybody was just having fun. And they had great corn dogs, too. That was really >> Yeah, there's no harm in that. I mean, any if you can find any reason, >> whatever, however spurious to get together with people and cook a hot dog, have a like, get on with it. Get on with it, you know? >> Yeah. All right, let's see what we got. Alrighty. Um, I'm almost finished with my doctorate in theology. I would love some of some academic work on neurodiversity. I'm autistic and the dark triad connection uh with academic Christian theology. That's out of my game. I can't I can't >> that's interesting. >> That's out of my purview. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a very specialized >> That's super niche. My guess is um uh I work on the doctorate of theology at the uh University of Toronto. Um, my guess is is you're probably going to have to write that. That's a something, >> you know, that that sounds very very interesting and it's maybe something that that is a is a doctorate thesis in it in itself. Well, look, maybe you're asking for it because it is something that you're would be uh cited in a in a thesis that you're you're writing. So, but certainly look, I hadn't heard about anything of that. Chances are you're not going to find it. It sounds very niche. If it was there, you'd have already found it. It's not difficult to find academic uh pieces. >> Right here, here's a good one. It says, "I have I've had a factual meeting with a psychic. They knew things about my mother no one knew but myself." Look, what we're not saying, and I'm the same way about UFOs or Bigfoot, we're not saying they don't exist. We don't know that. We need proof. But what we are saying is we don't believe this guy. I just recently saw a guy who had worked in on Area 51 who said Lavar Lazar is absolutely wrong about how things work there and all that kind of stuff. So I never we for example I didn't say there no UFOs. I said I don't think this guy's a UFO mechanic. Mike Woolly I didn't say there's no Bigfoot. I said this guy didn't see a Bigfoot like he's claiming because he got down to the point where if you haven't watched it it's worthwhile because he gets to I think Mark branded the Smurf village of Bigfoots. >> Yeah. He had >> all kinds of craziness. Here's one from Angelica and that has some stuff about dolls and blogs after it, but it says, "Definitely still interested in more videos on stolen valor." We've never done a video on stolen valor. >> No. And and you know what? Part of the reason I've never done them, part of the reason I've never done them is cuz >> if you're me, you I spent two years in Arlington Cemetery, the most stra unit on earth where everything is perfect and has to be. So it screams at you when you know a guy doesn't know what he's doing. He's got a like a Navy badge with a you know there's so much stuff going on you can't miss it. What I would say is we should do them just because they're comical and for two of us it's going to be easy. >> Yeah. >> For military >> I mean look there's there's something interesting is that obviously it would be tougher for us >> to to not be able to read the the the clear signals that you were able to >> to read. But it would be interesting, you know, in that we're not we're less so much less likely to to know those and and what do we come up with as opposed to uh yourself with that niche knowledge. >> That's a great idea, Mark. The other one that I think is powerful is because now we can show you how to know that lies are hard to sustain because a guy will tell you to kill five people. He's a sniper. I'm like, who's your spotter and where were you and that was when? What was your There's all kinds of stuff you can ask. If you know military operations, you wouldn't be able to ask. so we can teach how you would approach it from two angles. It might be worthwhile. >> Okay, here's my question for you on this one, Greg. If you were to give me the one thing that is most likely going to help me understand if somebody is being accurate or not about a story they're telling and maybe they're there in some kind of uniform or not. Okay, so I'll give you that option, but is there one thing that you would, you know, if you if I said, "Look, I've got to I've got to go and do this. I'm only going to be able to think about one thing. What would that one thing be, Greg? >> There's no such thing as being in the military in private. So, anytime that you're going to talk to somebody, all you got to do is start pulling in who was there and who was this and who knew that. How did you get there? Because the military is not a place that you, this is not Star Trek. You don't teleport into a place and do stuff and then disappear. There's a litany of people that get you there. Even if you're an ops guy, the amount of effort it takes for a Navy Seal to get to target is intense. So we'd have a whole chain of events that got him there. And most of these guys have never thought of that if they're if it's true stolen valor. They have no idea what it takes. And the the second part of that is you don't get to suddenly walk off the street and go kill Bin Laden, you know, for example. You have to have a whole lot of training to be able to play in that game. So where'd you train? What were you what was the durations? You don't have to even know the answers. You got to know the questions, right? >> So that's great. That's that's really uh really helpful. So, so there's I'm not going to get away with going, "Oh, Greg, you know, it was a very exclusive team. I mean, there was me and me." Yeah. Where did you get your security clearance? Right. >> That's an easy enough one, right? I mean, you live in that world, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, it it just there's so much to being in the military that if you've never been, you'll you'll say stupid stuff. You just will. >> All right. Here's a good one. What if you analyze a psych This is from the peach mark. >> Okay. Now, what if you analyze a psychopath accused of something nefarious, nefarious, uh, a criminal, and they didn't do it, but they're acting like a psychopath? Who wants to go first? >> Yeah, that's that's quite a a complicated uh situation there. Okay. So, they didn't do it, >> right? But they're acting like a psychopath >> and so they and so they're they may be showing some psychopathic Yeah. I mean, look, Greg, I'm probably gonna steal your thunder here, but baseline, isn't it? Probably. Yeah. I mean, >> everything, >> you know. Uh, so, Greg, tell us about baseline. >> Yeah. So, guys, when I talk about baseline, there's a reason this jersey is here. I did some work for a Canadian company, and the thing they remember, they were one of my clients. The thing they remember the most of all my stuff was baseline, baseline, baseline, which simply means understanding what's normal for a person in the situation. And by that we mean not at home eating Cheetos on the stand when you're testifying in a job interview. You look for what's normal and you look for deviation. That deviation comes in body language. It comes in bio in in autonomic response like respiration and blink rate, licking your lips, how fast you talk, how fast you move. All of those pieces, Scott just grabbed that for a video, I'm sure, somewhere where I made that. But all of those pieces then become a deviation in a look. So even if the person is a psychopath, they still would, let's say they're they are truly a psychopath. Some psychopaths don't do anything wrong. We just know that they might still have the eye movement and the stuff that is not normal for a person while not being guilty of that crime. So you got to look for where the deviations, the spikes in behavior, pulse, respiration, blink rate, all that kind of stuff occur rather than assuming that because they're they're psychopathic, they've done it. That's I guess Mark, is that help? Is that what you're looking for? >> Yeah. Yeah, that was great. Uh, quick quick thought here from Doug Warren, 69. Doug, you could have picked a different number. Any number. Uh, hey Mark. I I was in your hood yesterday. I thought about a surprise visit to you and Margaret. Uh, she's she's a very old lady. Don't surprise her, please. Uh, she's also she's also well battened down in there. Uh, since she she wrote Handmaid's Tale went on uh on um on TV. the iron bars went up on her house uh same day. So, she's she's well uh she Yeah. Don't surprise us. >> Here's a good one. What do you guys talk about when you're together in person? >> The same things you talk about. We talk about we really >> How do we make sure the body isn't going to start smelling? How we make sure nobody finds it? Hasn't been over. What are some ways to to make sure everything goes smoothly if somebody asks us questions about a friend of ours who might be missing if that were to ever happen? >> What are we protect ourselves? >> Well, I know how I'm I'm good at that. I've done that for a living. So, >> yeah, it doesn't change the odor. >> Hey, I want to give my answer on the psychopath question about that. >> The what? And I'm going to say two things about number one, when I go at Halloween, when I go to like a Halloween party, I don't wear anything. They always dress up normal and they go, "What are you supposed to be?" I'm like, "I'm a psychopath." Because you can't tell if someone's a psychopath most of the time. They're just a person that's there and you talk to them and all that. So, they look normal. If you dress up and they get a knife and walk around, you could be a psychopath that's having a, you know, a psychotic episode. You know, something happened like that. Or somebody that's angry, you caught them in the middle of something. But if you're talking about a psychopath, if you're asking if you're speaking with a psychopath, asking questions, and they're the one that did it, and they're the ones that are um I don't know how to break this down to till to it gets to its um there's no there's no difference there. You won't see any signs that show you they're psychopaths. >> You know, I'm trying not to get way out of the technical stuff. There's no there's no way you'll be able to tell they're a psychopath just by sitting there talking to them. Sometimes it takes six months to a year to figure that out. Like Greg was saying, you may see some some odd behavior with them depending on what else is wrong with their brain and and the way they're neurologically equipped. But right out, but you can't just sit there and go, "Yeah, that that that's a psychopath I'm talking to." Unless you've done the research, unless that person's been diagnosed and you know what you're going into. I understand what you're saying or what your question is, but it's it's hard to get down to without getting to the minutia of that to get into it, but it shouldn't it should just be treated like a normal person and they'll they'll you can spot lies and stuff on them. But for me, different it's a different perspective you'll get it from. >> There's some really good questions here. One, I'm I'm going to steal just a second for my own use. >> Greg, you used to say that you work in corporate America. I said corporate America and finance or Wall Street in the beginning. I just dropped it off because I didn't think it was important. But do they approach you or do you approach them? Yes. When I'm looking for work, they approach me. I'll go do speaking or working for them or vice versa. And I got 25 years in business operations. So, while I was doing interrogation and body language, I've been doing some of that, too. Here's a great question, a perfect question. How do you interrogate a person that is mute? >> I was I was just about to ask you that one, Greg. >> You know, it you do it with an interpreter. you get an ASL or whatever language they're speaking and you bring in an interpreter. And it's it's just like using any other language you don't speak. You have to have a person that you trust to be able to do that back and forth. And it's interesting to people automatically jump to that if somebody gets I I had this happen when I was training interrogators. Somebody had lost hearing from a loud sound. You an explosion close to they said, "Why don't we go get a sign language interpreter?" And I'm like because they don't speak sign language. They just lost their hearing, dummy. So, it's using an interpreter as an art form. I'll tell you, Jim Pile has a patent. You guys all know Jim has a patent for the best thing I've ever seen to teach use of an interpreter because you have to have two people that speak a foreign language to be able to use an interpreter. And you got to stack those people up and they got to be good. He created a system that scrambles your language. And so he puts headphones on the source in roleplay, the source and the interpreter and doesn't have head and the interrogator and doesn't have headphones on the s on the on the interpreter. So it gives you this created illusion of a false language and it's beautiful. I think he put a patent in on that when he was working at Phoenix. But great tool. You ought to look into that if you ever work with interpreters. >> I'm never the first time I've only worked with one interpreter doing something and Greg knows the story because he's part of it. And I found it fascinating because when they said, will you talk to these these people from China? And I said, yeah, okay, that's no problem. Well, what have they done? It was a business situation. And then I thought, well, and I said, so how are we going to do this? Do they speak English? Obviously. No, they don't. I said, can you hang on just a minute? You know, got to go to the bathroom real quick. And ran and call Greg. I said, man, I have to use an interpreter to to talk to these Chinese fellas. How do I do that? And tell them what you told me. >> Yeah. Just I told him there's two I told him there's two different styles. There's alternate and simultaneous. And what you do is you ensure that they understand that when you use a pronoun, they use the same pronoun. They don't say he said when the guy says something. They do they speak literally the words he speaks. And it's best I mean simultaneous means you can do it at the same time and the guy's talking. It's harder for him to keep his brain on that gear. But I kind of like if I've got time to use the alternate method because it gives me time to think of my next question while he's asking the question I just asked. And that's what I told Scott. It's just a skill set thing. It's a how how comfortable you feel with using the turpp, how many times you work with the turpp. And then it also has to do with how much time you have with the person. So I think that's what I told you. >> Greg's using lingo. The turpp. >> Yeah, >> I know. Just kidding. Yeah. So thank you for that, Greg. And so that's that's my only story that goes with what you just talked about. Anything similar? Um >> uh so I was going to say here, interesting one. Um would we ever watch video of the 25th anniversary of 9/11 and one and and look at people who might be making up stories about that just to get interviewed? So it's interesting kind of stolen almost stolen valor if not stolen valor thing. I mean, it's a tricky one that and it's it's difficult where you draw the line in terms of >> of what what is content and what shouldn't be. I'm I'm unsure about you know 911 is such an important um important and it's still very preient in people's minds. >> I'm not sure about entering in into that. But it's a very interesting area simply because you know why would anybody do that? Why would they make up the idea of that they were they were there in any significant way um if if they weren't? It's an interesting one to make up valor around. >> You know, it's funny. I I did a piece on 911. I did a piece for a news channel and and we covered people that had been there at that time and how they felt and all that kind of thing. And it was interesting because there's a woman with great grief muscle and sorrow and all that. And right behind there they asked this other woman who looked joyful and she was like >> I was there but the next day was my birthday and then my sister's birthday and then it was beautiful because it's what people choose to remember that the residual emotion came out as the one woman was remembering the horror of the situation. The other woman was remembering the reunification with her sisters after the fall of the buildings. So it was joyful and it's it makes it interesting and it would be a good way Mark to your point to drive home context as being everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me so I I I did a TV piece on the 10th anniversary. I interviewed a whole bunch of people in New York around that. I interviewed a guy um who was a car park attendant very close to uh ground zero around that and his story actually went off into his first time ever traveling into New York and seeing the Statue of Liberty on his journey in and just what that meant meant to him. So it was amazing. You know, I asked questions about so what was happening on the day and he goes into what New York and America means to him. >> So people can go in all kinds of directions with their stories about important events like these because they have such strong um uh meaning for people. Anyway, interesting area. Maybe we'll touch it at some point. >> Might be a good one. Yeah. >> Bring it back from Barnes. >> No, I didn't. I I poked him to see if he was free. >> Dang it. >> He hasn't responds. >> Nope. Nope. >> Oh, look. Here's here's another one here which I would love to do. >> Stick on. We got some good questions coming. >> Really interested in doing. Um, somebody's saying, "How about doing cat body language?" Um, but okay. You know what I'm interested at the moment? I'm very interested in the the videos around where dogs are talking through devices. Oh yeah. I'm really interested. Yeah. In that as to as to you know what is what is serendipity? What is you know raw shack test? >> Yeah. >> What is actual languagebased communication fascinating too and birds. >> Well birds are amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Birds birds learn vocabularies that are insane. Here's a good question. How do you keep bias out of your analysis? I always say, here's my simple one, then I'll hand it to you guys. I if I think something when I first look at at a video, I try to prove myself wrong. I go through it and say, "What what have I missed? What's wrong? What's wrong with my assumption?" Scott, what about you? >> Yeah, I I It's rough because when you um when you're telling what you think about something, you auto I automatically have an emotion about a lot of them. they've done something mean to somebody and I can see it on them and I'm like and I'm pretty sure that person did that without say without coming on emotionally going you know this guy did it because of so and so I try I try to get rid of all that stuff it's tough to sometimes but if you look at it from an analytical perspective and think all I'm doing here is telling you what I see then that's all that's all you got to do you can take the emotion of it uh out by that by doing that that's what I do anyway because if if you don't then you will be biased. Even if you're not, even if you know it, you're sitting on the side of I know it because of so and so, you've got to ride that line. If you go in to talk to somebody about something, you can't be biased doing that. You may you may have been um people telling you one thing on the way in. Here's why I think this guy did this. We all know he did or whatever. You could be wrong. You could be wrong. And I could be wrong. Excuse me. And so I try to take that that um the emotional part out of it and just ride the line of let's just go analytical. So I always I always take what I call going turtle. If you're looking at a turtle, you can't hurt his feelings. You couldn't tell if you did. You can holler at him. You can talk to him. No matter what you do to this turtle, no matter what you say to him, he's not he's just going to look like a turtle. Nothing experience no expressions change. So I go what I call it going turtle and I just talk to them like that or I break it down like that so I don't get that emotional thing in there from um or any bias from anybody else that to to mess with what I might think what >> are there turtles in your managerie in the backyard is a next question you haven't watched any ninj mutant turtles because Michelangelo has a lot of feelings >> that's different because they were you know they're they're they live in New York so obviously the the New York turtles heck lot than a than a Tennessee turtle. You know, you're talking about box turtles in Tennessee. You're talking about um crime fighting turtles in New York. It's a big difference. You know, it's kind of like that cape when you wear a cape market when you wear them when we go out sometime. >> Yes. >> When they wear capes, they're similar to that. I think it's because maybe they have some British background in them or something. I don't know how that works genetically, but you look better in one than most people I see on TV that are wearing them. >> I look I look Jedi in a cape >> in a way. Yeah. >> So >> many ways which which by any many any standard is still going to get you locked off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Um let's see. >> Oh man. >> Well, let's let's maybe do a couple more questions. I'm cognizant of time because I got to move on to other uh >> so Doug still got the work day to do everybody. I still got uh >> Yeah, I I got a couple too. I had a call while I'm sitting here. Back to business. >> Yeah. Yeah. What are some helpful tools for someone like myself who's neurode divergent and doesn't know a good deal about body language? Yeah. Have trouble doing it in real time. Hey, it doesn't matter if you're neurode divergent or you're neurotypical. This is not a natural skill set that everyone possesses. That's true. So, I usually say there are five pieces of body language. I won't go into each of them, but you can find it out there on on us. I'll just tell you what they are. And then if you can go and get to the point you recognize each of those five things, it will change the way you see the world. And those are gestures. That means I'm holding up my thumb or an okay sign. Something everybody understands. Illustrating, punctuating with my body, uh, regulating, stopping, conversation, adapting, releasing nervous energy, and barriering, putting something between us. If you get those five down and just take one of them and put it on your phone and say, "I'm going to study this until I can't miss it." If you're neurody divergent, it's harder for you, just spend a little longer and you'll pick up gestures, you'll pick up illustrators and regulators, and all those things will start to scream at you and make your life a little easier. But all of us have to learn the same way. Yeah, it's all academic. You can learn it. Whoever's watching this, you go, I like this. I'm interested in it. For most people, it's a hobby. And that's great. You got to Everybody, it's great to have a hobby. Don't think when you get into this, God, I can't get into it because I've got to go and learn all these details because they know these guys talk about. Don't do that. It'll bore the crap out of you if you're not a nerd. We just happen to love that and and fascinates each one of us. But it's academic. You can learn it. Even if you're just and most people are just the armchair, you know, detective or armchair body language expert, you know, but don't go on on Instagram talking about all these things you about body language just because you hear somebody talking about it. You got to make sure that information is valid so you don't end up in that pile of people who are giving out bad information. So do it. Get into it. It's and start just get started. That's all you got to do. And it's fine. You'll do great in it. And you don't have to prove anything to anybody. You don't have to take any tests on it. If it's for you, do it for you. It's a blast. And and once you want to start getting educated about it, you'll find your way. You'll see how to do it. You'll get so into it. You'll find one of our videos that talks about how to to be a body language uh person, how to be an expert or how to study body language because we all have videos on that that are online. So, that's what I would suggest. Don't be afraid to get in. Come on in. The water's fine. That's how we got started. >> Yep. And we just like, "Wow, that's really interesting." Different ages. ages when we started but it's academic you can learn it anybody can there is an emotional um additive to it and you know they say oh it's a gift for a no gift you know it's you it's just your brain working a specific way and once you train to start doing that and start looking for these things you can do it too so yeah Mark's our salesman Mark what do you got >> no I just I I agree in in entirely with everything uh you're saying there um You know, it's like the air that you breathe. You've got it anyway. We're behaving anyway. Uh it's yours to to study. Get involved in whatever way you can. Don't ask for permission to get involved. Just get involved. And and don't think that you have to get some kind of certification or, you know, why why would you? It's like cooking. You don't need to be you don't need to study to cook. I mean, it can help. >> Enjoy it. >> You just got to do it because it's food, you know, and you like making it for yourself or making it for other people. and it's fascinating. So, just, you know, it's yours to have uh get involved in it. There's so many people out there, well, you know, how can you how can you at all talk about this because you don't have any kind of qualification in this that and the other. Well, you're not coming around my house for dinner then, are you? Which means it won't be it won't be fun for you. Like, have less fun, >> right? >> Because you're waiting for some kind of certification, some kind of, you know, outside symbol. Prove yourself wrong. It's Look, it is a great I think you hit it dead on, Scott. It can be a hobby. There are a lot of people on here. I will tell you that in the time we've been, they are pretty masterful at the stuff they've come up with and they'll ask questions that are complex. People have been with us a long time and we meet them some of the things they'll tell us that they p figured out. >> Yeah, that's one of our favorite things when we meet somebody. They'll go, "You remember on this case or when you all worked on that?" And they they're so into it, we don't remember what they're I don't remember some of the people they're talking about, but and then you say, "Wait a minute. I know you from being in the comments. I know you. And then you can start talking to that person. It happens every time we go to crime call. We meet somebody we've known quote unquote for years now because they know about us and we know we we are familiar with them. What do you say, Greg? La >> last question I want to answer because I know this one. What what kind of effects does Tourette's have on analyzing? Well, I've got a dear friend who has Tourette's. Known him since he's 21. He's 42 now. And all it does is it's just like you having a tick or nervous thing. If when you're more nervous, it becomes more pronounced. When you're less nervous, it becomes less pronounced. He's gotten stronger and controls it a lot better over the years. But just look for a baseline again. >> All right, >> Mark, you want to say anything as we wrap this up? >> Well, no, thank Listen, thanks everybody for joining in. If you liked this, then we'll do more. Um, uh, sorry Chase wasn't here with us, but you know, it's difficult getting out of fine >> box that we have him in. Um, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. He can He can breathe in there, I think. See?