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Bryan Johnson shares his enthusiastic endorsement of Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT), describing it as a transformative experience he underwent while inside his large hyperbaric chamber, which he jokingly refers to as a "metal dildo." He recounts the initial anxiety surrounding the procedure following an explosion in Arizona and explains the mechanics of HBOT, where patients breathe 100% oxygen within a pressurized environment that doubles atmospheric pressure. Johnson highlights the specific protocol used during his sessions: twenty minutes with the mask on followed by five minutes off to prevent oxygen toxicity, noting that while the process is relaxing once pressurized, it prevents sleep due to the need for frequent adjustments and breathing exercises like HRV resonance breathing. Despite acknowledging the therapy's high efficacy across multiple biological markers—including a significant drop in cognitive decline indicators (marker 217), zero signs of microbiome dysbiosis, and undetectable systemic inflammation—Johnson admits that HBOT is currently inaccessible to most due to its cost, time commitment, and logistical hurdles. He emphasizes that unlike other therapies targeting single metrics, HBOT offers a broad-spectrum improvement but requires dedication; he completed 60 sessions over the first ninety days and has since performed roughly two hundred total sessions annually. The therapy involves significant inconvenience, such as traveling in a chamber weighing two tons or taking week-long breaks between intensive sprints to avoid harm from overexposure. Beyond general health benefits like accelerating wound healing for diabetics and aiding post-surgical recovery for athletes, Johnson identifies HBOT as the superior method for skin rejuvenation compared to red light therapy, microneedling, vampire facials, or lasers. He explains that the treatment remodels every layer of the skin by rebuilding collagen and elastin while reducing senescent cells, creating a distinct signature visible in biopsies. To maximize these results, he recommends pairing HBOT with surface-level treatments like 1550 nm ter lasers for texture and spots, followed by deeper ultrasound devices like SoftWave to rebuild the dermal scaffolding, effectively accelerating healing after acute skin interventions. The conversation also touches on the biological reality of aging as an irreversible decline from which one cannot simply recover without continuous intervention. Johnson argues that because both he and his audience are past their peak physical years—having crossed over into a state of entropy—they must consistently engage in modalities like HBOT to maintain youthfulness, contrasting this with younger individuals who naturally improve daily. He illustrates the intensity required for certain treatments by describing a painful laser procedure where settings were adjusted from 3.5 joules to around 4.2 due to discomfort resembling being singed by a hot iron, underscoring that effective therapies often require enduring significant physical stressors to achieve lasting physiological changes.
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Hbot, talk to me about that. I was messaging you the day that I started my Hbot. Yeah. Was the day that you put your video out and I went in there and you were like, >> I can't remember what the [ __ ] [laughter] you you replied with a a 20 20 and five. >> Yeah. >> Uh 83% with natural blah blah blah. And I just cuz I'm in this big [ __ ] metal dildo and the guy that's there, Vance from Beam Hyperbarics in Austin, if anyone wants to go to a great hyperbarics place, it's [ __ ] sick. You can book it by the hour. advance is great. And I'm like knocking on the little [laughter] this tiny little portal out of my submarine and he comes in and I just showed my phone. I'm like that. [laughter] And I couldn't be bothered to use the radio to get outside like is Brian Brian messaged you. Are we doing this? And he sort of went [laughter] so funny. >> Yeah. Put his thumb up like that. So, uh, >> yeah, >> hyperbaric. >> I was when you messaged me, I was worried about you because, uh, like a week before somebody had blown up in Arizona. >> So, yeah. So, >> what does that look like? >> Well, so in in hyperbaric, the idea is you pressurize. So, u, you're actually, so at atmosphere at sea level, we're about 15 pounds per square inch of of concentration of oxygen. >> At two atmospheres, you're at 30. So you you pressurize and some hyperbaric chambers they pressurize and then they just push 100% oxygen into the chamber. So you're just hanging out and breathing the oxygen. But if you're doing that you're sitting in a pressurized chamber and you're basically a flammable >> ball handle. >> If you're you're bomb like so if something if if there's a spark of any type >> Yeah. >> you just blow up >> your phone or some device that you've got with you or whatever the [ __ ] Okay. No, no, no, no. I this was I was not I was I had the [sighs] I was breathing the mask. I was >> great. Okay, cool. Yeah. Um yes, hyperbaric oxygen therapy uh I think to date it's fair to say has been the single best performing therapy we've ever done and the this is both good news and bad news because bad news is that it's expensive it's inaccessible it's timeconuming >> super inconvenient >> so it sucks because I hate sharing this because people it's very exciting but then it sucks because people can't do it like >> I mean if you're already to say I've got to find a sauna to use and most people don't have a sauna in their Oh god, now you're telling me I need to produce my own oxygen. This thing weighs [ __ ] two tons. It's I don't where does it fit? >> Totally. Yeah. And like who has 90 minutes in a day to go do this thing? So I would just say for for people who have a serious condition and there's a variety of conditions that that uh this could address like even cognitive decline or you know um wounds for diabetes. >> What would be on the list? uh like so there's a lot of emerging evidence for uh cognitive decline that if you're entering the latter parts of your life and you're really struggling, this could have a meaningful impact on that. Um it is used for diabetics who can't heal very well, it's used for healing. So people who have had surgeries uh to accelerate the healing process. If you have some kind of injury you're really trying to overcome, that's that can be great. So like there are >> telling me that some athletes post surgery are in 90 minutes three times a day. >> Exactly. they're trying to get they're trying to hit that 90 session number within weeks. >> Yes. So like there are some specialized applications where and people where it makes sense for the person to do but I just want to be very sensitive. I understand like it sucks to hear something's really efficacious and you can't get out of >> exclusionary. Yeah, it makes sense. So like uh but yeah, we we we basically like we do with all things, we measured we had this we cast this really wide net. We measured everything we could. my brain, my microbiome, um a full blood panel, um saliva stool, metabolomics, proteomics, like you name it, we measured it and we just found improvements across the board. It was really because most therapies will improve like this particular marker or that marker, but rarely do they have this broadspectctrum improvement. So, we saw like the the cognitive decline marker pile 217 drop. We saw my microbiome. I had zero dispiosis in my microbiome. Like no signatures at all of disbiosis. Um we saw I had no detectable inflammation in my body. So like when my HSCP came back zero >> the 99.99 we like he's beaten the test. >> Exactly. It just like it was really remarkable uh across the board. And so it was really efficacious. I did 60 sessions over 90 days and I've continued to do it. I've now done something like 200 sessions over the past year or something like that. So I just have it as part of my routine. I do it um you you want to be careful not to do it too much because you're you'll have oxygen toxicity. Yes. So you want to have some >> But that's why the five minute break is so important, right? >> Yeah. And I also take a like a week long break. I'll do a sprint then a week long break. So you just need to be careful because you can overdo it and cause harm. >> What was the protocol of mask on, mask off? >> 20 minutes on, five minutes off. >> Cool. Yeah, I was doing that. that what the one super [ __ ] annoying thing there is. It's very relaxing to be in It can be very relaxing to once you've pressurized. Uh but you can't sleep. >> Yeah. >> Because >> Exactly. Yeah. You're busy. >> Got to put this to take this thing on and off. >> Um one of the things that I really enjoyed doing was HIV resonance breathing. Yeah. While I was in there, have you got into resonance breathing yet? Have you been doing it in the HBO? Yes. >> So much fun. >> Yeah, it is so much fun. Um, there's a a a product that I got sent. I think I'm the first person outside of the company to have got it. It's this little lamp. I wouldn't be able to take it in. It would all [ __ ] hell would break loose. But it's basically a resonance breathing >> uh stone and you pick it up and it's got an FDA approved thing in it and the lamp goes up and down. You put it back and it's done. So, you don't need your phone, you don't need. That's brilliant. But, um, Elite HRV is what I was using with the strap. I'm going to guess you'll have seen. Um, one thing that I noticed about that niche niche issue, the strap that came with the Elite HRV thing, which you put on so that it can detect like real high fidelity, high hertz heart rate thing. >> Yeah. >> Um, the button that you use to press to turn it on, has a tiny little air pocket around it. So, I got into the [ __ ] Hbot and by the time I'd pressurized to get down there, the [laughter] button had been smashed and I couldn't pre there was no air to press the button and then I ke I was like trying to press it and it's just >> Yeah. Yeah. >> like Spongebob when he gets outside of the water. >> Um, so anyway, HBO, >> uh, so I mean, couple of questions on this >> 60 sessions as quickly as possible basically with uh to start to accumulate. It's not like a a one and done type thing. >> Yeah. >> Uh I think I asked you this at the time. I'm interested if there's any more information going from uh state change to trait change. Like is this the sort of thing that locks in? I'm aware you haven't then tested coming off and seeing what the tail of this is. But the same thing goes for sauna. Are you just fighting entropy with this? Is it something that you just need to do or is there anything because I think there's a I I certainly know in me if I look at a therapy or a modality or whatever and I find that uh there's no carryover. >> Yeah. >> I feel despondent. I'm like [ __ ] hell. Like I've just found this new thing. Here's another another thing I have to do. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean it's because both you and I are on the other side of the entropy curve, you know, like the the deal you want is youth, right? Like when you're 12, >> you you just keep on getting better. [laughter] But once you cross over into your Exactly. Like they just every day they get up and like [ __ ] just better, you know? So like, but yeah, you and I are both on the other side where it we're on this irreversible decline. And so yes, you've got to keep it up. But like one thing people are not aware of with Hbot is it's the best skin rejuvenation therapy in the world. So a lot of people >> better than red light, better than micro needling, >> everything like better than the vampire facials, better than any laser. Uh it is because if you look at the data on the biopsies of rebuilding collagen, elastin and reducing scesscent cell uh it basically remodels your entire skin. It's not just face like every layer of skin you're remodeling. It's really remarkable. Like if you look at people like if I see people now um I can tell a signature of Hbot skin >> like it's ve it's very very clear to me what it looks like. And so it just it happens. So yeah, that's the other thing is like a lot of a lot of women uh you know who are really care a lot about skin HBOT >> getting the [ __ ] HB. >> Yeah. I mean then you if you pair like the the best banger protocol is to for skin is to pair the best devices with HBO. So you basically you do like a surface level like a 1550 nmter to resurface the skin for for like spots, wrinkles, stuff like that. Then you do HBO and you can accelerate the healing. >> Is that micro needling? Is that what you're referring? No, just a laser like a 1550 nmter laser where it's like uh it's a very uh very benign laser uh if you do it right has lower risk of like pigmentation issues >> um >> for wrinkles, spots uh just like reach for texture >> and then you can do a deeper device like a soft wave SOF wav where it's ultrasound where it's 1.5 milliliters below millimeters below the dermis. So you have top layer and underneath the dermis. So you're rebuilding collagen y and like the entire scaffolding the skin and then you do agebot and then you accelerate the healing. So you basically do more sessions in this. Yeah. So that's like >> you do an acute like skin rejuvenation thing and then [ __ ] up. Are you still here? >> She's outside. I think I did soft wave cuz I went to your dermatologist in LA. >> Which one? >> Uh [ __ ] I can't remember the lady's name. It was in That was why I had a mustache. I grew a mustache cuz I needed to get rid of my facial hair. because they needed to do that in order to be able I'm pretty I'm almost certain it was software that that >> Yeah. Did Was it like um It felt like a >> cigarette burn that never actually got to the >> burn. Exactly. Yeah. Like like you're being singed by like a a hot metal iron. >> Yeah. But it never actually peaks to the It was a really interesting lesson in uh and there >> Yeah. >> blowing the [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um >> it was a really interesting lesson in pain. uh that because what you realize is you ride this crescendo. For the people that haven't seen it, it's literally as if someone was to put something really hot out on you. And when that happens, there is a swelling. There is a crescendo, >> but it usually peaks at you can almost hear it, right? If you ever put alcohol on an open wound, that's >> it like goes like that, but it doesn't ever get above a six or so. So if if she did uh if she set the settings to 3.5 jewels, which is the lowest setting, >> then it gets pretty tolerable. If she goes to 4.2 top end, cuz basically it's it's a total energy per area. >> I think I had it at around about 3 I think she had it at 3.6 3.7. So I was I was being a weenie. >> Okay. Yeah. So like if you have the 4.2 where basically like it cuts down the number of pulses by 30%. If you want to like zip through it. God damn. That >> that is so painful. Thank you. Oh man, it it does. It just feels like uh a a red hot iron. >> I'm all right. Send to the face. >> No more. No more. Thank you. >> A quick aside. If you have been feeling a bit sluggish, your testosterone levels might be the problem. They play a huge role in your energy, your focus, and your performance. But most people have no idea where theirs are or what to do if something's off. 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