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The podcast features a heated debate between hosts Drew and Tom regarding the severity of the US economic situation, specifically focusing on inflation, national debt, and impending collapse. While one host argues that the US is far from an immediate crisis due to its status as a reserve currency holder with strong military power, the other vehemently disagrees, describing such optimism as "moronic." The central argument presented is that while the government may not default outright, it engages in "soft defaults" by printing money to service debt, effectively stealing purchasing power. This process has already reduced the dollar's value by 95% over the last century and another 25% recently. With total US debt—including federal, corporate, and household liabilities—exceeding $100 trillion, interest payments are now consuming more of the budget than defense or social programs like Medicare, creating a "debt death spiral" where only money for servicing debt remains. The discussion delves into the mechanics of inflation versus deflation, asserting that modern monetary theory allows governments to print money out of thin air without tying it to value creation. This results in innovation-led deflation being negated; instead of goods becoming cheaper as technology improves (like TVs), prices remain stagnant because new currency is printed to match production increases. The hosts emphasize that inflation acts as an invisible tax, preventing the average worker from getting ahead while asset owners accumulate wealth at the expense of those without assets. Historical precedents are cited, noting that empires inevitably decline or collapse when debt-to-GDP ratios exceed historical redlines (around 130%), leading to managed declines similar to England's post-WWII status or Argentina's economic struggles. The hosts argue that this dynamic is not a hypothetical fear but a predictable cycle driven by physics rather than political ideology, warning against the "American Dream" fading as young people are priced out of housing and real wages stagnate. A significant portion of the conversation addresses common criticisms regarding oversimplification and comparisons to failed socialist or communist systems. The hosts clarify distinctions between capitalism, socialism, communism, and social democracy (as seen in Nordic countries), arguing that removing market signals leads to shortages and inefficiencies regardless of the system's label. They discuss China's unique approach as "capitalism with Chinese characteristics," where the state controls strategic sectors while allowing competition in others, contrasting this with historical attempts at pure communism which led to catastrophic failures like famine under Mao Zedong. The hosts also address the concept of a debt jubilee or beautiful deleveraging proposed by Ray Dalio, acknowledging that forgiving some debts is necessary but politically difficult because one person's liability relief becomes another person's asset loss. They conclude that no single solution works in isolation; addressing high debt requires a delicate balance between austerity, taxation, and money printing to avoid systemic collapse without causing unnecessary suffering. Finally, the dialogue shifts toward practical advice for individuals navigating this economic landscape, focusing on asset ownership as the primary defense against inflation. The hosts explain Ray Dalio's "all-weather portfolio" strategy, which suggests diversifying investments across equities (around 60%), hard assets like gold and silver or Bitcoin (30%), and Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) for protection (10%). They strongly refute the idea that only the wealthy can own assets, noting that fractional shares allow anyone to invest in major companies. The hosts also touch upon their personal motivations, explaining how they transitioned from financial content creation to broader economic commentary after realizing inflation was a man-made tool rather than a natural phenomenon. Ultimately, they urge viewers to focus on first principles: protecting oneself from currency debasement by owning assets and understanding that the government's ability to print money does not equate to prosperity for everyone if wealth inequality continues to widen along predictable historical lines.
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Our latest video on the things that
happen right before a collapse is going
crazy. You guys asked, we are now here
to answer. Without further ado, Drew,
what do people have to say about this
video?
>> Let's jump into the comment section. Jim
Dwyer 1, "Like your videos, Tom, and you
make very valid points, but I can't
agree with you 100% of the time. I don't
agree with you 100% of the time, so The
US is far from a debt crisis. We may get
there in the future, but it's going to
take a while. The dollar is the world's
reserve currency, and the US has the
strongest military in the world. Those
two factors give us a lot of leeway on
debt. Additionally, some context is
needed
>> on, hold on, okay.
Okay, this whole thing that it gives us
leeway on debt, they're not wrong.
But that is the most moronic thing to
say. So, imagine, Drew, that I'm racing
towards a cliff.
And as we're going to the cliff, it's
like, "Bro, this car is number one in
like uh crash safety. We're all going to
be fine." No, no, no, we're still going
to die at the bottom of the cliff. The
car may crumple in the most useful way
possible, but that steering wheel is
still going to punch through my sternum.
So, I do not understand what people are
trying to convince me of. Can they not
see
young people been completely priced out
of home buying?
Can they not see homes are the only
asset people understand intuitively? Can
they not see that inflation robs them of
their buying power? Can they not see
that real wages have stagnated? Can they
not see that we have offshored
uh so many jobs that now the rate of
deaths of despair that men particularly
die from is skyrocketing? Like, I'm what
metric are they looking at to be like,
"This isn't a problem"? Okay, can I play
devil's advocate?
>> Please. Push back violently. Um
the mafia boss who cuts off your finger
when you don't pay him. Like, I'm
incentivized to pay him cuz I like my
fingers. I don't know if there's a
country in the US that's going to come
around and be like, "Hey, US, I need
that money." And we're going to be like,
"Ooh." Like,
>> Are you high? We can fight China. We got
a lot of bases.
>> China China, first of all, China's
already selling our debt. The people
that the US The US is never going to
outright default. And if this is what
people are trying to get to, fine. But
hear me when I say, they will do and
already are doing what's called soft
defaulting. And they will simply reduce
the purchasing power of your dollar to
nothing. If you think I'm making that
up, over the last 100 years, they did it
by 95% In the last 5 years, they did it
by 25%.
This is not a maybe. This is not a
hypothetical. You're adding a trillion
dollars to the debt every 100 days.
Every 100 days, Drew. And so when you do
that, you are now in a debt death
spiral, where very soon the interest
payments on the debt are more than
everything else. They are more than
Medicare, Medicaid, defense is already
more than defense, education Ah.
Everything. And you get to the point
where you only have money for the debt.
Now, I don't even I try not to talk
about that all the time because then
you're talking about like Weimar Germany
hyperinflation. All I need people to
understand is when you are at When your
debt to GDP grows by 6 to 7% a year, you
very rapidly get to the point where you
have to print money to keep from
defaulting, which means that you just
Imagine stealing 7% more of everybody's
wealth every year like clockwork.
Dude, you you can never get ahead. And
so if people are wondering, "Why can't I
get ahead?" It's because businesses
aren't going to be able to afford to pay
you that much more every year. So now
every year you're moving backwards.
Every year you're not able to afford
things. That causes people to become
more haves and have-nots because as I
have said many times, people that own
assets will be pulled up into the upper
class. People that don't have assets
will be pulled into the lower class. And
one more time, 10% of the US owns 93% of
the assets. So, you're going to have 10%
of people that spiral into just wealth
inequality, the likes of which people
have never seen. And so, if people need
to hear that I'm just this selfish
prick, then let me just say this. I
don't want my head separated from my
body. I'm a student of history. I look
at France, and I see, "Oh, when wealth
inequality gets too bad, people just get
so angry, they start killing people."
What did Napoleon understand? Once
people start killing each other, they
don't stop. want to stop. They get like
this blood lust. So, Napoleon ends up
becoming emperor because he looks at all
these uh French people literally just
killing people for no reason, killing
each other. Some of the people that
started the French Revolution are the
people that got their heads chopped off
cuz people don't They don't stop at the
elites, bro. They just keep going. You
annoyed me, so now I'm going to cut your
head off. So, uh Napoleon looks at that
and goes, "Cool. Uh I'm going to point
all these people at every other [ __ ]
country. And we're just going to go take
them over." And bro, he's They started
taking everybody over. He makes himself
emperor for life, wild [ __ ] and had he
not ended up losing in first to the
Russians and then finally in Waterloo,
if he hadn't lost, dude, he would have
been a dictator until the day he died.
People just It It's like they don't look
at history, and they don't see how this
stuff play out. So, they hear like this
rant, "Uh I heard about like let them
eat cake, and there was like some French
Revolution or something, but I France is
great. France is great country." Yes, if
you don't mind doing a hundred years of
darkness, devastation, economic
backwater, anybody can recover. Uganda
is Hey, Drew, they've only been down for
50 years. Give them some time. They're
coming back. I can feel it. It's The
[ __ ] What is happening?
Argentina went through a hundred year a
hundred years of madness, and maybe now
they're coming back because you've got
essentially a lunatic economist who
campaigned with a chainsaw who finally
got people's attention. You want to talk
about oversimplifying things. Who
campaigned with a chainsaw,
uh got back into power, and is now
whipping them into shape with austerity,
which people hate. But when you suffer
enough, you can finally get people back
on track. Money follows physics.
It's that simple. Map the physics.
I still got three more sentences. Let's
Let's keep it going. Additionally, some
context is needed when discussing our
national debt. Yes, it is way too high
and growing rapidly, but at 37 trillion,
it's only slightly more than our GDP.
The US has a 30 trillion
>> god.
Hold. Stop. Pause.
Uh okay. There's three types of debt.
He's just talking about government debt.
So, government debt is already
more than our GDP.
K?
That's bad. Then you've got private
debt, which is again, I mean, some
ungodly figure. Then you've got
corporate debt. You put them all
together, it's over a hundred trillion
dollars.
So,
kids, we are so underwater.
We can get out of it.
Corporate and private debt is another 13
trillion. Yeah. No one needs to be
panicking. Like, yay.
Well,
if we do the right things, we can back
away from the cliff.
But first, we have to do the right
things. What's the total debt, by the
way? Like, all in
debt debt debt.
Cuz I thought it was over a hundred
trillion. See? See? Over 100 trillion
dollars. The total US debt, encompassing
federal debt, corporate debt, and
household liabilities is estimated to be
over 100 trillion dollars.
Kids, we are in way more debt than
people think. Way yeah. more debt than
people realize and we will just keep
printing and printing and printing and
printing.
>> Venus is going to come But we owe money
to each other. That's the thing. We owe
money to each other.
We owe money to We owe money to China.
We owe money to Japan. We We owe money
to everybody, man.
This is like This is one of those Okay,
I don't want people to panic, but I do
want them to wake up. And so I'm not
trying to fear monger. cold water. I'm
trying to snap people to [ __ ] awake. And
so no, I'm I don't want anybody
panicking. Panicking is for [ __ ] if
I may be so bold. I want people to wake
up. I want people to focus. Partly
because Drew, I was so blind to this.
I knew how to make money.
And I made a whole lot of it. And then
all of a sudden during COVID, I just
wanted to help
the people back at Quest cuz line
workers are not making a lot of money.
When COVID happened, I was like, "Oh my
god, these guys are all going to go
bankrupt. They're not going to be able
to take care of their families."
What is the tool I have at my disposal?
A YouTube channel. Great. I'm going to
help people. I'm going to start doing
financial content. Like balance your
checkbook type financial content.
And then I kept being like, "Huh,
there's something I don't understand
here. Something I don't understand
here." cuz I would have another guest on
another guest on. They would say
something. I'll be like, "Wait, what?"
And the more I started researching
researching researching, I finally
realized the one like linchpin in my
brain that once you removed it, my
entire world view fell apart. That was I
thought inflation happened naturally.
I didn't realize it was man-made.
And I thought, "Oh my god, I'm a
40-year-old man. I'm reasonably smart."
And I thought inflation was a naturally
occurring thing. I just never thought
about it.
And so then all of a sudden I was like,
"Wait.
The government's taking my money through
inflation?" Because the first time I
heard somebody say it's an invisible tax
or it's theft." That was so confusing to
me. It's like, "What are you talking
about? Like, how are they doing it
consciously?" And then you realize, "Oh,
they're doing it consciously. It It is a
very simple system."
If you are deficit spending, you are
printing money. And if you are printing
money,
you just made it up out of thin air.
There It's It's not tied to any value
creation.
Here's the problem, Drew. You want to
know why I simplify things? I can
explain to you cuz people As soon as I
said that, people they don't know what I
mean. Gloss over
>> There's a whole fractal right there.
That I always stop myself from going
down. Because you can create money out
of thin air if you do it in the exact
proportion of the additional value that
you create. But people don't even know
what that means. What does he mean by
value? If I build another chair,
I've just created additional value.
If I have the same number of chairs and
I print money, now I've got more money
fighting for the same chairs.
If I make another chair, I can print a
little bit more money. And now the two
stay even.
And here's the part I can never get
people to like really grasp.
They'll look at 2.7% inflation, which is
roughly what it is now at the time that
we're recording this. People think
that's not so bad.
And I want to scream.
Because what they don't understand is
a whole bunch of new chairs are being
made.
They're printing money to match all the
new chairs that are being made.
Plus
>> the 2.7
>> 2.7%.
Your TV should cost $1.45.
But instead of that, the TVs get better
in quality, but they never go down in
price.
And the reason they never go down in
price is because they are inflating the
currency like mad.
And so, instead of getting like real
stuff getting cheaper and cheaper and
cheaper over time, Anything that's been
mass produced should get cheaper over
time, but it doesn't. It stays roughly
the same. And it stays roughly the same
because the government
is taking all of those wins that we
should be feeling in prices. And they
have convinced people This This one is
enraging. They have convinced people
that deflation is to be feared. That is
lunacy. There's two types of deflation.
There's crisis-led deflation. Fear that.
>> Mhm.
People are panicking. They're keeping
their money. They're not spending it.
Worry. That is bad.
Then there's innovation-led deflation.
Your TV's now cheap and easy to make.
That you should be excited about, but
you never feel it cuz the government
takes it all.
Mhm.
Landing the plane on this. Uh
but at 37 trillion, it's only slightly
more than our GDP. The US has a 30
trillion GDP. In that context, it's like
an individual making 100k per year that
has a 120k mortgage. Yeah, they owe more
than they make in a year, but it's not
by an outrageous amount. Additionally, a
fair amount of that {quote} debt is owed
to ourselves. So, is it a problem? Yes,
absolutely, and we should work on
reducing it. But is it at a point where
national collapse is imminent? Not even
close. Just my humble opinion.
I feel like I've already addressed his
This is not a big deal. We don't know
that much.
Uh that it's owed to each other. Cool,
let some banks fail. Is is that where
the debt jubilee comes in where like
>> Dude, a bank failure is a debt jubilee.
Mhm. Hey, sorry people that deposited
your money. The bank doesn't owe you
money anymore. Whoopsies.
Yeah, but people freak the [ __ ] out. So,
uh what? Like people think they're not
the one in the debt jubilee. They always
think I'm the one that doesn't have to
pay this [ __ ] back.
It's like, bro, this is wild. Th- This
is people that do not understand how
money works. They don't understand that
if you crater businesses, because all
those businesses that you owe money to,
you just don't pay, oh, when they fold,
sorry, we had to lay off 17 million
people this week. It's like you don't
think that's going to have a systemic
impact on the government, on on the
nation as a whole? Now, listen, again,
these crazy ass comments are pushing me
to like really make a point by being
bombastic. I don't think that we're at
the gate of imminent collapse, but we
are at the point where we have to wake
up and start doing like moving in the
other direction.
Because right now, you're at 122% debt
to GDP, you're adding a trillion dollars
to the national debt every 100 days.
Uh your interest on the debt payment is
already more than you pay for in
defense. Aren't people a little
concerned about that? You're marching
towards Thucydides' trap with China. You
are almost certainly going to have to
arm up for a conflict that hopefully
never comes, but you're going to have to
arm up for it. That's going to cost a
fortune. So, I I'm just not sure what
signals
In fact, forget all of that.
Just think about that 33-year-old couple
that you know that can't buy a home.
Think about the fertility rates, the
birth rates plummeting.
What do you think's causing it?
So,
once people start realizing that
people can't get ahead,
and even though it is true, you can be
dirt poor and still have kids, and
should. And so, there's some cultural
thing that plays out. But that cultural
thing is fed, in part, by the fact that
people can't get ahead. By the fact that
the American dream is dead. By the fact
that we don't have that like
jubilant spirit that Americans used to
have. Like the '80s felt different, man.
I'm telling you right now. They just
felt different. Like a kid from Tacoma,
Washington felt like he he legitimately
be anything he wanted. Even though my
parents didn't make a lot of money, and
no one in my family had a lot of money,
but it just was like, well, that was
America. It was in everything. It was in
the movies were telling me that I could
be rich. Uh books were telling me I
could be rich. TV shows told me I could
be rich. Like everything told me that I
could be rich. And I saw it. I saw
people become successful. We told those
stories. We celebrated people that were
successful. Like, we don't do that
anymore. We villainize success. We look
at people that have money and we're mad.
And then you start going, okay, why is
that? And it's that way for a
hyper-predictable,
mechanistic reason. But I'm just having
trouble getting people to to see what
that mechanistic reason is. Even if you
don't think, like, maybe this is like a
50-year problem. But it's like it's not
like everything's fine, fine, fine,
fine, fine, fine, fine, break.
It's malaise starts setting in.
The country starts feeling like, hey,
maybe we should be more socialist. The
innovation begins grinding to a halt.
China continues to rise. We lose the um
dollar reserve status. All of a sudden
we can't do the things that we want to
economically.
And then we're in the boat like
everybody else, and we're coming to
China with our hand out. And it's like
people just cannot grasp that you don't
have to collapse and be dramatic for it
to [ __ ] suck.
So, uh we're number one.
But people have actually lost the will
to remain number one. And that to me is
that's a tragedy.
And so, anyway, I'm going to do my part
to push back. I'm going to do my part to
walk people through first principles,
mechanistic, how we got here, what we
need to do to get out of it.
And I find it
bizarrely motivational when people
uh are like, "No, everything's fine."
Look look at any stat.
Bro, I'm rich. Like, I get some people
just think that I'm a a narcissist who
needs to hear the sound of his own
voice. There are easier things that I
could talk about. I got a lot more views
telling people they could do anything
they set their mind to, right? Phase
one, baby. I was a lot bigger than I am
now. So, if this was just narcissism, I
would have just looped on that [ __ ] but
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People are not doing anything with this
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SDR0505
said, "This is the usual excuse of
someone obsessed with capitalism and
when it fails, blames it on socialism or
communism. US is a capitalist society
yet it's still failing even when it had
the ability to print money. Why? Because
of greed. Socialist and communist
countries will survive just fine if US
and Western governments don't illegally
sanction them, create wars, coups, etc.
But they interfere with all these
countries to protect capitalism. Why?
Because that's the only way the rich can
stay rich, by manipulating and
brainwashing the public to keep working
without any actual lasting benefits.
Keep them spending and staying in a
debt-ridden, etc. While keep BSing about
free markets and
eventual prosperity. If you are a fair
and strong government free of corruption
that regulates corporations and protects
the public's interest, things will just
be just fine. First of all, let's
establish some ground rules. Uh
America's not strictly capitalist. The
problems that we have are all caused by
the parts of the economy that aren't
capitalist. The way that the money
printing works is that it's fine in the
beginning and it moves in a really
predictable cycle. The thing that I'm
trying to get people to understand is
that cycle is predictable. It's
knowable. Ray Dalio has turned himself
into the most successful hedge fund
manager of all time by being the most
educated about the cycle, by being able
to look at any country that prints and
go where are they at in the cycle
because I know what's going to happen
next and I just place my bets based on
what I know is going to happen from this
historical trend. So, I'm
ironically, I've won capitalism. Like
the the parts of the economy that still
work, maybe I've won them. Uh and I'm
screaming at the top of my lungs that
you can't ever do anything that betrays
the middle class. And so, if I thought
that socialism was the thing that would
help the middle class, then I would
scream for it. But, the historical
record for anybody going to bat for
socialism, communism, it is the single
most murderous economic structure the
world has ever known. I don't know what
they're arguing for. I don't know what
they look at in history and go, "But,
see how it's working so well?" They
literally don't have anything to point
at. So, I can point at 500 years of what
we would now call modern monetary theory
where people have the ability to debase
their currency and show you exactly how
it moves in a cycle that starts fine.
You have a little bit of debt that ends
up being good for growth, but then the
growth slows down. The only tool that
you know how to use is debt, so you use
more debt, you get some growth, but not
at the rate of the accumulating debt.
The debt carries an interest burden, the
interest burden you have to print money
to cover it. Printing money debases a
currency, that eliminates the middle
class because of a very predictable,
known mechanism called inflation. The
only way to protect yourself from
inflation is to own assets. So, what
ends up happening to the middle class is
roughly half, it's probably less than
half, but it gets pulled up into the
upper class, and then the remaining
people get yanked down into the lower
class because they don't own assets. So,
people get pulled up to own assets, they
get pulled down if they don't own
assets, then it gets wealth inequality
gets rampant, and then it
self-destructs. Like, it's it's this
super knowable loop, and it
self-destructs, by the way, because
people just get so angry. Now, the only
system that has more inequality than
late-stage capitalism is socialism and
communism. So, it's like I
I Obviously, I worry for all of us when
I laugh at Gallo's humor,
I really am willing to spend a whole lot
of my own time and energy into just
really trying to get people back to
where I was in the '80s, where I really
believed that if I worked hard, I could
do something incredible, and then I
worked hard and did something
incredible. And I want that to be true
again, but there are When you get into
that late stage five, and I'm it might
be worth us going through the five
stages, but when you get into late stage
five,
everything really starts to break down,
and people have a reason to be mad.
Like, if you can't afford housing, the
vast majority of people will just never
own assets. And so, that's why we're in
the situation that we're in right now in
real life in America, 10% of people own
93% of all assets.
So, that's the wealth inequality that
people are talking about. But like the
sort of vague nebulous
um capitalists are evil, socialists are
good people, leave the socialists and
communists alone and everything is going
to be fine.
Money has physics.
And
the best explanation of capitalism is
capitalism's a terrible system, but it's
the best of the terrible systems. So,
what I hope I can get people to take
away from this video or even most of the
economic content that I do is
things feel broken now because they are.
They're broken because of inflation.
Inflation is a product of modern
monetary theory, but modern monetary
theory is a trade-off. If you re-harden
the money based on gold or whatever,
>> Mhm. that has its own trade-offs that
are going to create problems. And so, we
just have to be honest about what
happens when you print money, so
hopefully we can interrupt it and focus
on like if we were just going to focus
people on one metric, it would be debt
to GDP ratio. And so, if you can start
driving that We're now at 122%. 130 is a
historical redline over which only bad
things happen.
And then, if we can start pushing that
in the right way by being more fiscally
responsible,
then we can make things better. But when
we have this sort of vacuous argument,
it's we're just going to deflate. Can
you break down a difference in your
opinion between capitalist, socialist,
communist? There are more systems than
just capitalism, socialism, and
communism, but given that these are the
three that we see most frequently, let's
talk about them. So, capitalism is meant
to be a free market system in which
capital goes to the places where people
are going to get the biggest return on
their capital. So, you've got the
workers and you've got the capitalists.
And the capitalists say, "I'm going to
build this factory not because I make
money today, but because over time I
think I'm going to make money." And so,
as you aggregate capital, you then
deploy that into assets that you think
will make a return. That asset could be
a business, it could could a factory, uh
it could be a stock, could be a bond,
could be a treasury, like all of the
things. Whatever you think is going to
return that principal plus plus interest
back to you. Socialism is where you
confiscate the means of production and
you say, "Okay, the state now owns all
of the means of production and we're
going to give as many things away as we
can for free to make sure that people
have um the distributed profits of the
the economic engine." So, instead of
going to capitalists who are using
um intelligence, market signals, hard
work, discipline in order to figure out
where to put their capital, and they
sometimes win, they sometimes lose, uh
and they take a disproportionate amount
of the rewards, we're going to spread
that out across everybody. The problem
is that you lose market signal, so the
state is able to just say, "Well, we're
going to keep investing in that, and
that is what it is." Um and we're going
to control everything, and so you end up
in a situation where you don't have the
information coming from the price
signals, and so you start making too
much of certain things, uh you start
making the wrong things, you don't have
enough of the things that people really
need. So, in socialist systems, you tend
to have shortages of things, you tend to
have too much of something, and so it
just ends up being all over the place
because you're trying to centralize the
market signals. You're trying to say,
"We know what's best, so go do this
thing." Communism is socialism
distilled. And so, it's that all the way
to the extreme, where the government
controls everything, um all of the
decision-making is centralized. People
will often refer to you socialism as
just a step on the way to communism, and
I think that that is the right way to
look at it, because what ends up
happening is as you seize the means of
production, things will start to break,
they will start to go wrong because
you've removed all the incentive
structure, you've removed the price
signals, and so now the only way to get
people to do what you say is to point a
gun at them. And so, and you just slide
into communism, where the government
realizes they have to control everything
to keep people in line. Now, people will
often say that the Nordic countries are
socialist, but they're not. They're a
social democracy, not to be confused
with democratic socialism, which is
actually socialist. They're a social
democracy, meaning it is a democracy.
Uh state is involved in very few
industries. Typically, only things like
oil and stuff like that will get put
into that. But, they'll have a few
industries that the state will run.
Everything else is privatized. There's
still uh price signals. So, when you
look at a Denmark or a Sweden, they
still have privatized healthcare. It's
just that they have a gigantic
welfare state that makes sure that
everybody has that paid for for them.
But, one of the big bridges that has to
be crossed is if you want to be a social
democracy, then what you have to do is
tax the life out of everybody. So,
you're going to tax the wealthy, you're
going to tax the middle class, and
you're going to tax the poor. It's the
only way to have a big enough tax base
that you can pay for all that stuff.
>> Mhm.
Uh Gurche Bernat 4785, I like it because
he throws rocks at socialism as he's
detailing the problem we have stems from
capitalism.
I feel like you addressed that.
>> um certainly happy to give a speedrun of
this.
Again, people need only point to what
socialist system do they see that's
working? I will certainly drink it in.
If there's something there that will
make people's lives better, I'm all for
it. But, historically speaking,
socialism is
horrific. Horrific because you remove
incentive structures. Once there's no
incentive, the only way to get people to
do something is at the end of a gun
barrel.
Period.
All right. And Dragon of Paradise says,
I want a deep dive on the Nordic model
of democratic socialism. Yeah, I mean,
look, that's fair. And remember, that's
social democracy. That's not a
democratic socialist. Democratic
socialist is, I think, a largely
American phenomenon. It's absolutely
terrifying. They want to do things like
abolish the family,
uh confiscate the means of production.
Like that that one's really like going
down a dark dark road. The kinds of
things that like even China doesn't do.
Uh so, you've got to be very careful
with that. In fact, one of the
fascinating things is the way that China
has embraced capitalism with Chinese
characteristics.
Um
because while they implant government
officials inside the company and they
will admittedly force them to do things.
So, they'll pick let's say they'll go,
um we're going to make sure that we win
in AI. But then they let all the AI
companies for real compete against each
other. So, it's very different than when
people want to seize the means of
production. Now, the reason that China
ended up there was first they tried
being truly communistic in like an old
school Russian model Lenin Marxist. And
they'll even pay lip service to it
today, but the fundamentals of the way
they run their economy just isn't Lenin
Marxist. Though, you're hearing more
things like that from Xi Jinping, which
is why people are worried about him. Set
that aside for now.
Uh what Deng Xiaoping realized was okay,
Mao just straight told everybody you're
going to do this. It ended up starving
millions of people to death. Not because
he necessarily wanted to starve them to
death, though he clearly didn't mind,
but because he thought he knew best and
people should listen to him. And the
problem is it's very hard to know
everything about everything. And so you
end up making these catastrophic
mistakes like the one that I talk about
often is he told everybody all across
China, which has giant
uh it it spread out over a giant
geographic region. And so the climate's
different, what grows in one area is not
going to grow in another area. And so he
said everybody plants the same thing
everywhere at the same time. And so the
vast majority of the crops failed
because he just didn't know what he was
doing. And so people starved to death.
And so it's not until you let farmers
compete for who's going to be the best
that you actually have a shot at
winning. So, if we were to deep dive
into the Nordic model, what we'd be
looking at is they understand the same
thing. That you need the private market.
And so, they're not trying to um
make everything public. They are trying
to make sure that the private market
stays active, but the welfare state is
funded through huge tax burden across
everybody, not just the wealthy. Got it.
KD Penland 87 put the deep dive into AI.
He says, "Take it for what it's worth. I
still enjoy the the content otherwise."
I'm going to point three from the AI.
This is where the thesis overreaches.
Debt equals guaranteed collapse. The US
is not directly comparable to Argentina,
Weimar Germany, or Zimbabwe. Unlike
them, the US issues debt in its own
reserve currency, enjoys global demand
for treasury bonds, and has vastly
greater productive capacity. Collapse
isn't a given, though fiscal strain is
real.
Redline at 130 debt to GDP. Japan has
exceeded 250 debt to GDP for decades
without collapse. Debt stress varies
depending on monetary sovereignty,
demographics, and central bank control.
Hyperinflation prediction. The US has
inflation risk, but current Fed policies
and global demand for dollars make
Weimar-style collapse unlikely without
catastrophic mismanagement. Selective
history. The video only highlights
collapses cases. Many nations with high
debt, inequality, or populism, e.g. UK,
France, post-World War II US, adapted
rather than collapse.
Dashboard flashing red rhetoric. While
emotionally compelling, it
oversimplifies complex systems and
amplify amplifies fear.
Bottom line, not pure fear-mongering.
The debt, inequality, and trust issues
are real and well-documented, but not a
guaranteed collapse. The US still has
immense structural advantages, reserve
currency, deep capital markets,
innovation engine that differentiate it
from past collapses. Best described as a
dramatized, but partially grounded
worst-case outlook. Useful as a
cautionary thought exercise, but
overstated if taken literally as
imminent doom. I think that there is a
lot of truth in what the AI is saying.
So, if you take something like Japan,
Japan has been over 200%. I don't know
that they've been over 250%. They may
have like popped up above it, but I
don't think they've stayed there.
Anyway, that's a fact check that people
could run. But, they when people say
that 98% of countries that have spent
any meaningful time over 130% debt to
GDP, the reason they say 98% is Japan is
the 2%. So, there's no doubt that there
are exceptions. And there's no doubt
that I really do feel a heightened sense
of emotion. There's also no doubt that I
use a heightened sense of emotion to try
to get people's attention. Uh but, the
reality is you're already seeing people
commit acts of um political
assassinations. Like
this
collapse Weimar-style, I'm not saying
that we are on a guaranteed collision
course with
uh a Weimar-style Germany. I'm not
saying I'm certainly not saying that
Trump is the next Hitler or anything
like that we're guaranteed to have a
Hitler or anything like that.
But, I am saying Drew that to uh
a 100%
like it happens every time.
Empires stop being empires.
Nobody escapes it. So, it used to be I
mean, what? Spain had an empire for a
while.
People are going to get weird about the
word collapse, but they stop being an
empire. What word would people like me
to use? Managed decline? So, uh Spain
had a managed decline. Italy had a
managed decline. England had a managed
decline. The Dutch had a managed
decline. Uh Argentina had a managed
decline. Zimbabwe had a managed decline.
Some of the managed declines were more
bloody than others, but like hey, let's
look at England. I think most people
feel good about England. Drew, World War
II was pretty bloody. And so, when you
look at World War I chipping away at
England, World War II chipping away at
England, massive bloodshed. Now, was
that massive bloodshed entirely
economically driven? Yes. Was it all
economically driven by England? No. So,
did England end up paying a huge price
for the Treaty of Versailles, which they
put Germany under? And it was Hitler
pushing back against the Treaty of
Versailles that he used to rally his own
people to make them as angry as they
needed to be to go in and confiscate
wealth from the Jews, to kill the Jews,
to feel like they had a right to Russia,
which is a long story, and anybody that
doesn't think that Hitler had his eyes
on Russia from the jump has not read
Mein Kampf. So, look, all of this stuff
gets very complicated. There is no doubt
that you could go through line by line
and give like a really measured version
for like, "Okay, this is what we would
have to do to pull out of this." And I
try to always end my videos with
precisely what we need to do to get out
of this. I don't want anybody to believe
that any of this stuff is a foregone
conclusion. I really don't want anybody
to feel hopeless, but I don't know what
else has to happen. You've got men not
having sex anymore. And so, there are a
whole host of things that are leading up
to that, not the least of which is
uh social media, dating apps, OnlyFans,
like just egregious amounts of access to
pornography, but I really believe to the
core of my existence that the biggest
driving factor is when young people
cannot get on the housing ladder, they
are not able to start building wealth,
when real wages don't grow, people like
begin to check out of their uh pursuit
of goals via a um working uh through
their careers. And so, it's like you've
got all of these structural things that
have one underlying cause, and I really
believe that people hide behind
complexity instead of just saying,
"Look, yes, I'm giving you a non-nuanced
take so that people don't pretend that
oh, this is uh it's all so complicated,
Drew. We'll never know what could
possibly be driving this." What is
driving it is very simple. It is debt.
And once you understand that debt forces
the government to print money, that even
when it's your reserve currency, you are
debasing the currency. And people will
react in a very predictable pattern when
you debase the currency. Now, you can
export that debasement to the world when
you're the reserve currency, so you can
drag this on a lot longer than you could
otherwise. But every single empire that
has been the reserve currency has
stopped being the reserve currency.
England used to be in a position where
the sun never set on its empire. Drew,
it's now a small island off the coast of
Europe. It's like they they are not an
economic backwater, and if you live
there, I've lived there for a year. My
wife is from there. It's not like you're
crying yourself to sleep every night
because it's like a a brutal
dictatorship, or you know, it's a Uganda
or a Zimbabwe or something like that.
But
anybody that held the pound through the
transitionary period lost like 99% of
their wealth.
>> Jeez. So, uh
did people survive? Yes, but do you
really want to lose that kind of money?
The US dollar has already lost 95% of
its wealth over the last 100 years. Do
you want to keep doing that? We've lost
25% of our wealth in the last 5 years.
So, it's like I
these same people are going to look at
the world and they're going to say, "We
have a screaming problem, Drew. We have
a something is wrong. I know something
is wrong." And all I'm doing is saying,
"This is the thing that's wrong." And
yes, for the purposes of making it
accessible, I'm I'm going to simplify.
But Drew, I'm not making it up. Even the
AI is like, "Look, he's maybe
overdramatizing,
but it's grounded." So, I'm happy to go
line by line if people want like, "Hey,
give me the nuanced read on this. Give
me the nuanced read on that." I'm more
than happy to walk people through it.
>> Mhm.
But the reality is you have a screaming
problem. In the last 5 years alone, the
US government has stolen 25% of your
wealth.
And that's just the part they've taken
invisibly. That's not the part that they
taxed outright.
Oof.
I still fact out of that. Uh democratic
solutions disagree. Debt out of control,
dying middle class, and society
resentment are fairly modern phenomena.
The fundamental factors have transcended
from the fall of Roman Empire to the
fall of Soviet Union.
They are one, the lack of participating
population on common cause, demographic
change versus disloyal migrants and
immigration problems, low fertility
rates due to disease or social class,
unfavorable culture change toward
insensitivity to solving nations
problems. Number two, inflation due to
dwindling supplies such as food and
necessities and national resources.
Three, political instability. Pagans
versus early Christians, liberals versus
conservatives, capitalist bourgeoisie
versus proletariat socialist, and
finally four, impractical empire size
in the context of both land mass and
political interest. Given the army as an
instrument of political might supported
in head counts and financed by the
population, end of story. Unfortunately,
the US has experienced in various
degrees all four fundamental factors
that led to empire collapse.
Okay, so this is actually a really this
is a great comment. So, all of that is
true.
Uh
including the point that America is
suffering from all of these to differing
degrees.
Ultimately, you've got to focus people
on a subset of issues. People are
already checking out. They They are at
the slogan level. They just want bumper
stickers, man. And if we can get people
to focus on a thing that they can take
action on so that they can protect
themselves, we're going to be in a much
better position. Now, everybody's going
to have a thing that's like their
bailiwick that they really want to bang
the drum about. And so, if somebody
wants to bang the drum about impractical
empire size, go for it. If you want to
bang the drum about immigration, go for
it. I'm largely going to be focusing on
the economic side, though I find all the
other stuff very interesting, and at
times I'm sure I will do videos about
those things. And then when I'm talking
about immigration, people are going to
be like, "But it's money printing." So,
this stuff is all incredibly
complicated, but again, if you set aside
the complexities for a second, and you
really start looking at things like
black and white, super binary, uh give
me a finite number of things that I can
deal with, you really can boil the world
down to a small handful of things. Now,
given that Ray Dalio has made so much
money by paying attention to the big
debt cycle.
I look at that one, and I'm like, yeah,
there's a ton of predictive validity in
terms of a thing that I can do something
about, buying assets that will reward me
financially. And then once I have access
to those resources, I'm in a much better
position to either make myself
impervious to immigration,
uh to if I'm in the place that's the
declining empire, and I want to go to
the inclining empire, I can do so
through the accumulation of wealth. So,
it's like focusing people on
don't let the government steal your
money through inflation. Uh make sure
that you can get into housing, that's
critically important. So, from a thing
that I would want people to focus from a
regulatory perspective, all of that, it
would be protect businesses, which drive
the economy, and make sure that housing
is available to the average person.
Like, just beating that drum over and
over and over and over and over, because
people can do something about those
things, and it will have a massive
material impact on their lives. So, yes,
that we could drive ourselves crazy with
every video reading the comment that
says, "This issue is more nuanced than
what you've put into this 40-minute
video." And it's like, yes, of course.
Um I remember once reading a biography
about Churchill, and they literally
talked about the length of of grass in
his front yard, and I was like, "Oh my
god." Like, some things are meant to be
left out. So, uh I'm trying to make
things clear for people, and in making
them clear, I am admittedly
intentionally shaving off some of the
nuance.
Um, for anybody that really wants the
nuance, join me for the lives. In the
lives, Wednesday, Friday, 6:00 a.m.
Pacific time, we cover all the nuance
because we've got a much longer format.
>> Hope to see y'all there. Check the Check
the live out. Check the live out. Uh,
LMT1701
said, "Tom, we're spiraling into
authoritarianism with no help from
communism. Malignant capitalism and
runaway greed have caused this
ruination. You're surely You're surely
preemptively blaming socialism when our
destruction is imminent regardless."
Wow, that's bleak. Uh, so one, I like to
believe that this is not inevitable and
that we can pull back out of this. I
think that there are a certain set of
steps that we could take, even if it's
simply to prolong the decline, to
uh, manage it more efficiently than
others have managed their decline,
um,
I I would be very happy. So,
there are definitely systemic issues
that we face, but I feel like we can
point at all of those things and say,
"This is what we have to unwind." There
really two things that scare me far more
cuz I can teach people what to do, how
to avoid the impacts of inflation, but
men and women becoming antagonistic
towards each other is so like that will
take generations to unwind, I fear.
Uh, and also because the same things
that caused that problem are still going
to be present.
It's like, man, I really feel like that
one's going to ratchet up and then
political division. We are in a populist
moment and so this tends to be a
flywheel that just keeps going and going
and going and going until there's
violence.
And then you finally build up enough
pain in the system either through
revolutionary conflict inside of the
country,
uh, and then there just ends up being
enough bloodshed in a civil war that
people back off, or through Thucydides'
trap, we go to war with China. There's
so much bloodshed there that people
again just they're so fatigued, they
just want to go back to a normal life
and they're willing to sort of give up
on almost anything just to have normalcy
again.
Uh, so, yeah, I I don't want to see us
go down that road. I would much rather
remain hopeful and optimistic and do my
small part to try to nudge people back
into a sensible lane.
But he's Listen, he's not wrong. We are
getting more authoritarian by the day.
Uh I thought both the Biden
administration when you realize that the
people behind him were calling
themselves the Politburo, which by
definition is the small group of elites
that run a communist country, and they
called themselves that.
Uh and then obviously Trump has wildly
authoritarian tendencies.
Uh so, yeah, I feel their pain. Welcome
to populism.
Maniacosta 1560 in ancient times it was
a practice of forgiveness of debt
because they understood exactly what you
were presenting. Get free Debt
forgiveness is a pressure relief valve,
but no one is willing to release the
valve.
Everyone wants their peace and everyone
is willing to let everyone else burn if
they don't get their peace. Yeah, very
well said. So, this is People put a nice
name on debt forgiveness.
Uh Ray Dalio will call it a debt
jubilee, debt forgiveness, all sounds
very lovely.
Uh but this is going, "Hey, that money
that you loaned to that guy, you're
never going to get it." And so you're
like, "Wait a second, I was wealthy 5
minutes ago and now I'm not and I worked
my ass off to make that money. I loaned
it to that person so they could do a
thing and now you're just telling me
that like sorry, you don't get any of
it?" So, once you understand that one
person's liability, debt, is another
person's asset,
you realize, "Oh, snap, like to forgive
this guy is to hurt this guy." So,
that's why it's not going to be popular.
Mhm. But, Ray Dalio talks about the
solution to the debt to GDP ratio being
as high as it is and growing, it's
called, again putting nice words on a
horrible thing, but he calls it a
beautiful deleveraging. Now, beautiful
deleveraging requires some debt
forgiveness. You are going to tell some
people sorry, you get pennies on the
dollar or you get nothing.
Um I think, speaking of the most
sinister debt that we have is student
loans that can't be discharged in
bankruptcy.
That's one where I I really believe that
history will judge us very harshly for
making homes unaffordable via inflation.
And I think that they will judge us very
harshly for saddling students with, I
mean, 80 to $250,000
in debt for a college degree, some of
which you know are never going to be
able to return that lifetime. And
because the government backs those
loans, like we'll just keep giving them
and giving them and giving them, there's
no discipline that's forced into the
system. Whereas if you let them
discharge it via bankruptcy, all of a
sudden people are like, "Whoa, whoa,
whoa. I'm not going to lend for
underwater basket weaving degrees. Those
just don't yield the return." And I get
it, feels mean cuz you're telling that
person you can't go study that thing,
but that's just the the reality of
money, man. So, uh you need people to be
disciplined. We don't want to let people
get buried under debt, that is for sure.
You're going to have to do debt
forgiveness, that is for sure. It's
going to be destructive to some people,
you have to acknowledge that. You have
to understand if you do that in
isolation, cuz the beautiful
deleveraging is four levers that you're
going to pull. If you do that one in
isolation, then you're going to um
create a political problem for you if
nothing else. So, but you do have to do
debt forgiveness, you are going to have
to tax the wealthy more.
Uh you are going to have to do um
austerity, so just spending less, and
you're going to have to print money. You
have to do all four of those, but they
have to be done in this insanely
delicate balance where you're constantly
pulling a lever a little bit and then
watching, pulling another lever and
watching.
And all anybody ever talks about is do
one. And so everybody picks their
favorite lever and is like, "Yank the
hell out of it." Uh so we see we hear
eat the rich all the time, and it's like
it just doesn't work, not in isolation.
It's a part of a very complicated
cocktail,
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1290 said, "Tom, you often mention
owning assets. However, the only two you
mention specifically are own a home and
what you call gambling in the market.
Could you please do a video about the
different assets have a regular person
can acquire them and why how they should
own them?"
Okay, well, let's do a micro deep dive
right now.
>> Mhm.
Um
if you look at Ray Dalio, he talks about
an all-weather portfolio. So, something
that's going to do well across different
times and places, different economic
conditions. He said he put it together
so that once he dies, his family would
know, "Okay, I I don't want to have to
know about it the way that Ray did. I
don't want to have to have all the
analysts and stuff that he had. I just
want to like set and forget." Uh and so,
it's going to be a broad basket of goods
that's going to do well in an
inflationary environment, in a
deflationary environment, if we're in
the middle of stagnation, all of that,
that we're always going to perform well,
you know, call it the 5 to 7% um, over
time
and not have to like count on like we're
in an inflationary environment or count
on we're in deflationary, whatever. That
you just you're going to do well all the
time. Uh, Lynn Alden who we just had on
the show, same thing. She's saying, hey,
there's a saying she calls the three
pillar strategy and same idea. It's
basically an all-weather fund. So, um,
she's saying you should be in um, stocks
like traditional equities. She would say
reasonably priced, high performing,
meaning that they pay dividends, that
they've been profitable for 10 plus
years. She's like, that's 60% of your
portfolio. 30% of your portfolio is
going to go into um, hard monies,
commodities, things like that. So,
Bitcoin, gold, silver,
um, and then 10% is going to go into um,
what she not what she calls, but TIPS,
which is a certain kind of um, treasury
bond that is actually corrected for
inflation. So, as inflation goes up, it
goes up. Now, whether you need to be
just in TIPS or just treasuries and
bonds in general are going to get you
there. Obviously, you need to be careful
and that's going to be 10% and that
one's designed to protect. So, in times
where like things really go haywire and
you don't want to have to panic sell,
you want to have something that's highly
liquid, you want to have something
that's not nearly as volatile as the
other ones. And so, everybody's just
sort of trying to get you to that. Where
it's like, okay, you're not going to
spend all your time like thinking about
this, trading. And by the way, the
the majority of day traders get host.
So, it's going to be the elite, elite,
elite that do well. To win a day
trading, you basically have to bet again
bet against the consensus and be right.
And so, the people that make a billion
dollars in one day, I mean, these are
once in a generation financial minds
that see something in an exact moment
that other people miss. This is not like
the average thing that people do. And
so, even the people that have made like
a gaggle of money in crypto, it's
because they were in it for the long
run. So, they got in super early and
then they just held. Most people can't
do that, even though the best advice
you're ever going to hear in the stock
market is buy low and sell high. Most
people buy high and sell low. It's an
emotional roller coaster. Nobody can see
the future clearly. So, anyway, you want
something that's as close to set and
forget as you can. Have enough cash on
hand that you can
you never have to panic sell. You can
live, let's say, for a year and not have
to change your lifestyle. Like, those
kind of basics, blocking and tackling
become incredibly important. And then,
if you want to get a little more exotic,
you start getting into things like
crypto. And so, if you have a thesis
about something like Bitcoin, which I
do, then you might invest in something
like that.
But, if you don't understand it, like,
it's probably not a great place to be.
At least the stock market, aka equities,
at least the stock market has shown over
the last 200 years that
over a long enough time period, it is
going to beat inflation by like 6 and
1/2% I think is the average over the
last 200 years when you look in like
20-ish year time horizons. Nice.
All right, this is from Mount Brockton.
You identify the problems, but give over
simp- oversimplified let them eat cake
solutions. Most people can't buy assets
of the kind that produce the wealth like
real estate.
>> I I literally won't even tolerate that.
That is false and this is exactly how
people get themselves into the
situation. That is a dumb [ __ ]
statement and one of the reasons that
I'm trying to simplify is everybody
wants to hide behind like [ __ ]
complexities and make the sound hard.
Anybody can go spend $10 on a fraction
of a share. This is why, even though I
think that people should be angry as
hell that they're forced to gamble in
the stock market. The stock market is a
modern miracle and for the last 200 400
years
we've been able to buy pieces of public
companies. Now, for a long time you had
to buy a whole share and so that could
be very expensive. I mean shares of
Berkshire Hathaway are like I think at
one point it was over $100,000. Don't
quote me on that but it's like a lot of
money. Now, that's not the case. You can
literally buy a piece of a share. So,
it just isn't true. Now, if people are
talking about I want to get rich quick.
Sure. You're not going to place the kind
of bet that George Soros is going to
place where you're able to break the
back of the British pound and make a
billion dollars and then do another
billion dollar trade the next day with
the proceeds from breaking the back of
the Bank of England. I get it. But like
what you can do is go put $10 into
Apple. You can go put $10 into Meta. And
dude, like but this is arguments like
this come from people that have no money
in the stock market either because
they're paralyzed by fear, they're
bitter, they're angry, whatever, but
they're telling themselves a story that
is defeatist and inaccurate. So,
the thing I'm trying to drive home,
Drew, even though the criticism that I'm
oversimplifying is accurate, the thing
I'm trying to drive home is
no matter how oversimplified the
following statement is, it is still
factually true.
If you do not own assets, you will get
eaten alive by inflation.
There There's no argument that anybody's
going to be able to present that makes
that statement untrue.
So, I don't know what people want me to
say. That's the only way out.
Sartorius Strands, Tom is worth an
estimated 400 million. He's just doing
what he can to protect his assets.
That's all. He doesn't care about you or
any viewer. If you had 400 million,
would you be such an egomaniac that you
have that you need to have your own
YouTube channel where you can tell all
the poor people how to live and what
they should believe and every other idea
in your head or maybe you just enjoy
your life. Funny how many super rich
people there are that just absolutely
can't stop themselves from telling
everyone else how to live and what to
think. None of these videos are for you.
They're to feed his massive ego.
Okay.
So,
everybody has an ego. So, I'm not even
going to spend time
arguing about that. There was a brief
period in my life where I thought maybe
getting rid of my ego was the right
answer and if people want to go be a
monk or do a heroic dose of mushrooms
every day to have ego dissolution, by
all means go for it.
Meaning and purpose matter.
Uh
once you understand, no matter how much
money you have, you need meaning and
purpose. You need to feel like I'm
contributing some way to society, quite
frankly. It is an evolutionarily placed
algorithm that runs in your mind. So, I
need to do something every day that
makes me feel like I'm contributing to
the group because that's what evolution
wants from me.
Um it didn't have to be a YouTube
channel, fair point. So,
uh there is a certain amount of ego to
think you can build anything. I remember
when I was a little kid and was telling
my family that it never had a wealthy
person in it that I was going to be rich
one day, they all thought I was out of
my mind. And to some extent I was, but
because I believed it, then I actually
went down the path of getting the skills
that I needed to do the thing.
When you do that and you realize, "Whoa,
everybody told me that I would never
amount to anything. Nobody thought I was
going to be successful." My mom, who
always supported me,
finally admitted to me that she never
thought I was going to be successful. My
best friend said, "Oh yeah, I just
assumed you were going to marshmallow
your way through life." That's a direct
quote. My father-in-law, when I asked
for his blessing to marry his daughter,
said no because he did not think I would
be able to take care of his daughter
financially.
So, nobody thought I was going to be
successful.
Then you realize, "Oh wait a second,
there are physics to this. There's
physics to getting good at business. I
got good at business. I was rewarded for
getting good at business. Then you
realize there's physics to money that
you can learn to invest and you can reap
benefits. I've learned to invest and now
I've made millions of dollars just off
of investing.
Uh and so you start going, "Whoa, like
all of these things follow a knowable
set of rules." It doesn't mean that
everybody's going to win, but it does
mean cuz like I'm not I'm not a
once-in-a-generation economic mind by
any stretch of the imagination. So my
gains compared to somebody that really
like gets into this is going to be
extraordinary.
Um and I'll explain why I do a YouTube
channel in a minute, but
once you realize that there was rules to
this, you want to teach other people, at
least I did. And so long before long
before I stepped in front of a camera, I
started doing something I called Quest
University and I told all of my
employees, um I'll teach you everything
I know about entrepreneurship up to and
including building a competitive
nutrition company because I want you to
know I care more about your success in
your own mother. That was like my whole
stick. And the reason I did that was I
really
going from scrounging in my couch
cushions to find enough change to put
gas in my car to becoming wealthy was
insane.
And so I wanted to see like could other
people take these rules, run with it,
and do something with their life. Now
the tragedy is that I've seen that it's
like a 2% ratio.
You can tell people think like this, act
like this, and only 2% will do it to go
on and be successful. But I did that
long enough that the 2% of people now I
I'll bump into people that I don't even
remember and they're like, "Hey, I used
to work for you at Quest." Or "Hey, I
watch your content." Guy literally is
like 2 weeks ago came up to me at a
restaurant and was like, "I don't know
if you remember me. I worked for you at
Quest. You gave me advice. I've now gone
on, my business makes over a million
dollars a year." I was like, "That is so
cool. I love that so much." So anyway,
I'm wired for that. I don't expect
people to believe me, but I've now been
on camera for 10 years. Now people can
watch how I moved. People can talk to
people that knew me before there were
any cameras.
And did I help them when I got nothing
out of it other than I love to see
people succeed?
Okay. Now, is it ego? Yeah, of course.
Like I feel good about that. Makes me
feel good about myself. The ultimate
punchline to life is self-respect. End
of story. Nothing else matters. Uh
billionaires commit suicide because they
don't like themselves. And figure out
what your value system is, live
according to your value system. You will
have your own respect. So, my whole life
is geared towards that. Now, why do I do
a YouTube channel? I do a YouTube
channel because I the reason I got into
business in the beginning was I wanted
to be a storyteller. Now, I always
thought it would be filmmaking, but the
film industry has changed so
dramatically. Video games just ate the
world of storytelling. And I have since
fallen in love with games and game
development so profoundly that I love it
more than I've ever loved filmmaking.
It's It's really pretty crazy. But,
there are two paths before you as a
content creator. Path number one is what
I call straight line. Alex Hormozi, Cody
Sanchez, straight line. The thing they
talk about in their content is the same
thing they sell. The other way is trust
building.
Um I talk about politics, world affairs,
economics, little bit of gaming, but
like I'm in that universe. And then I
will tell people, "Hey, by the way, I
also have a school for entrepreneurs.
Come and sign up. It's paid." Uh and I'm
building a video game, which in about 2
years people will be able to buy. And
it's all trust building. So, I've been
viewed over a billion times. That's
super advantageous.
Uh people will have me on their podcast.
I have an audience that will show up
when I ask them to. So, all of that
stuff is incredibly useful from a
marketing perspective. I've never tried
to hide that. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool
capitalist. I understand how the game of
content creation works. I understand
that attention is the most valuable
thing anybody could give you.
Um and so, for a guy that's trying to
make sure that his life has meaning and
purpose,
uh who understands also building a
community, which matters a lot more to
me than an audience,
uh that that's also who you solve
problems for, build things for, and can
generate ongoing revenue. So, I mean,
I've never tried to hide that. I've
never tried to bamboozle people. Like,
this is an exchange.
All right. That's all I got. All right,
everybody. Thank you for that, and truly
thank you for the comments. I love it
when people challenge me. It makes me
sharper. My thinking evolves like every
day. So, I'm very grateful for everybody
pointing out things that they think that
I'm not seeing. Well, I certainly
appreciate the opportunity to clap back,
uh, and see if I can convince you guys.
I really, really want the best for
people. I want the best for myself. I
want the best for you guys. I want a lot
of people to win. I want mobility. I
want people to be able to fall from the
top, and I want people to be able to
rise from the bottom. I will be
consistent on that, and I will try to
put out a message all the time that is
grounded physics of whatever thing that
we are talking about. Thank you for
being a part of this community, and if
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>> Two-thirds of Americans now say the
other political party is not just wrong,
but a serious threat to the United
States itself. Trust in the government
has collapsed to just 22%, which is near
historical lows. The middle