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Thank You, Charlie Kirk.

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The hosts of a long-running podcast express their deep gratitude and sadness following the passing of Charlie Kirk, reflecting on his positive impact during their recent collaboration which took place approximately two and a half months prior to the tragedy. They emphasize that despite being one of the busiest individuals in politics and activism, working with Turning Point USA, organizing college tours, and managing family life, Charlie made time for them after the recording session ended. His team was exceptionally gracious, providing full access to their equipment and staff who managed audio and cameras without any request from the hosts, effectively treating the appearance as a favor rather than an obligation given his high profile. Throughout the interview process, which lasted several hours with no barriers or interruptions requested by Charlie, he demonstrated remarkable thoughtfulness and kindness that stood out even after five to six years of hosting their show. The hosts recount how Charlie would actively seek out articles featuring clips from their episode to send compliments regarding their work, a gesture they describe as very rare in the industry. This level of engagement extended beyond the studio; they maintained contact via text messages before and after the shoot, noting that his friendly demeanor and willingness to listen were consistent traits that left no room for negative perceptions about him or his message. The conversation also touched upon their core philosophy regarding open dialogue across political divides, a principle central to why violence is never considered an answer regardless of who holds opposing views. The hosts recall a poignant moment from the podcast where Charlie was asked what he would want people to remember if everything else vanished; his immediate and unwavering response was that he wanted to be remembered for his faith and courage. This sentiment resonated deeply with the speakers, reinforcing their belief in hearing everyone out without judgment before forming conclusions, even when discussing controversial figures or topics. In light of Charlie's death, which initially left one host unable to think about anything else after receiving the news from a brother, they share their resolve not to let bitterness consume them despite the tragic circumstances and circulating footage online. They urge listeners to prioritize mental health by spending time with loved ones rather than dwelling on negativity or anger in response to such events. Ultimately, the hosts conclude that continuing to honor Charlie's legacy involves maintaining the open dialogue he championed while striving to become better people through his example of faith-driven courage, ensuring they do not let this loss turn them away from positivity and community connection.
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So, we've seen a lot of people posting their positive experiences with Charlie. And for us, it also just seemed weird to post last Sunday and then post this Sunday, too, without really making a very public comment on this. And so when I see people speaking positively about Charlie, whether it's, you know, on Twitter or people just candidly turning on their camera and and talking about an experience they had with him, I really appreciate it. Um, and I think that we just kind of wanted to share our off the camera experiences with Charlie and uh and just spread the the positive impact that Charlie had on us. >> Yeah. Here on the podcast, we always try to hear everyone out, no matter what they believe in, the right, the left, it really doesn't matter. It's just about having an open dialogue. And we had Charlie on the podcast about two and a half months or so, give or take. And he's been nothing but incredible to us. We really enjoyed his perspectives hearing him out. And Jack's last question of that podcast has really been uh making more of an impact than we initially thought at the time. and and looking back it's it's kind of eerie to hear that your question there and his first reaction is uh you know about passing away and wanting to be remembered for his faith and that's something that I think really needs to be said. So I will say our experience with Charlie obviously was one that everyone else has been sharing which is nothing but positive. Um, I'm sure he's probably one of the busiest people uh whose contact I have in my phone. Like he I'm sure morning to night with his family, with all of the work that he's doing with Turning Point, with the college tours and everything. Um, I'm sure that he's absolutely flooded minute by minute, but he still after the podcast spent the time to be so thoughtful, to check in with us. there were articles that were made uh about basically little clips from the podcast that people wanted to comment on and he would find these and he would send them over to us. he would compliment us on the good work that he thought that we did on that episode. And I mean, you know, we've been doing this show for five, six years. And I will say that is very, very, very rare that people make that much of an effort to to just be a positive individual, to say something nice to to positively impact your day. And and Charlie would do that. And you know, although we didn't really even spend that much time with him. Um, you know, it was just a couple hours for the shoot. We had spoke, you know, before and afterwards a little bit briefly. I texted him a while before cuz we tried to have him on about a year ago and we had had a little conversation there and then of course after the podcast. Um, just keeping in touch a little bit here and there. like there's there's no reason that he had to be so thoughtful and um and just, you know, friendly enough to just give us a shout and and say hi and make sure that we were aware that people were talking positively about the episode. So, I thought I just thought that was really nice. Yeah, I think too I mean obviously violence is is not the answer and that's one of the reasons we created this podcast is just to have open discussions even if you disagree with someone or if you agree with them just to hear them out and our and our entire message from the beginning is just allow people to speak hear them for what it is and then come to your own conclusions but uh violence is never an answer both ways no matter who you are and I think it's important to just keep the dialogue open and in this case I think uh you know talking about Charlie Kirk and his message I think is going to go a long way and if people are very receptive to hearing this out and uh you know it's it's it's just surreal for us. Obviously it is very tragic. I remember my brother told me the news and um and then I immediately called Graham to to brief him on what had just happened. And um it was just a it was an awful feeling. And for the rest of the day, I just remember there's just like I couldn't think about anything else aside from what had happened. And I can only imagine what people that were closer to him are feeling right now. And um and it's just tragic and I'm doing my best not to let it turn me bitter and get angry and let it consume my day. And so we also wanted to share that we were I'm trying personally not to be spending a bunch of my time online um just because the the awful footage has been circulating as much as it has. And and I think that it's good for your mental health also just to spend time around people that you care about and not let this turn you bitter and angry and try to try to let this, you know, help you become a better person when all is said and done. Yeah. Doing a podcast with someone is a very like intimate experience when you're given just he gave us no barrier. He said, "You could talk about whatever you want." And we even said like, "Hey, if we ask you something, if you want us to cut," he's like, "No, no, don't worry. Just leave it in." When when someone gives you their time like that and you sit uninterrupted for hours talking to someone like that, you really form a connection with them. And that's the same with anyone that we've ever had on the podcast. And um I I'm still at a loss. Like it just it just it when Jack called me about it yesterday, I was like, "No." or I was thinking a he's going to be fine. Um so for me even I've just been in disbelief about it because that's not how this should have ended. >> I mean on top of that obviously like when we traveled to him he was so gracious enough to let us show up use all of his equipment. He had so many people that he pays staff just to sit there and to monitor the the audio cuz we didn't bring anyone to do that for us. He had people managing the cameras. I mean, he put his entire team so so nice of him. I mean, he can go on any podcast he wants. He can talk to whoever he wants. He could call the president and the president would pick up first ring like he said on George Jenko's podcast and he still sat down with us and spent his resources to make sure that we have a high quality episode. So, >> yeah, he didn't have to do that. I mean, him coming on our podcast was he's doing us a huge favor that he did not have to do. So, so we just wanted to let you guys know that, you know, obviously our thoughts are are with him and and with you guys and it's just a really unfortunate situation and we just wanted to speak positively about Charlie. I don't have a single negative thing that I could say about him. He has been nothing nothing but friendly, thoughtful, and I just see him as a as a positive influence on my life. So, that's that's really it. And like I said, it would have just felt weird to go Sunday to Sunday and not make a, you know, make a comment letting you know that, you know, we're feeling >> it's it's hard. And um and uh yeah, hang in there if uh you know, if you're having a hard time, hang in there. And we are going to try to continue on, >> you know, with the with the positivity. Obviously, we're going to be posting on Sunday as per usual, but um >> yeah, and we're honored to have had him on the podcast and and share his message. >> If everything completely goes away, how do you want to be remembered? >> If I die, >> everything just goes away. How would you if you could be associated with one thing, how would you want to be remembered? >> I want to be I want to be remembered for for courage, for my faith. That that would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life. [Music]