Tavarish Reveals The Truth About His Income, Divorce, and $2,000,000 McLaren P1 Rebuild
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Tavarish opens his podcast episode, *Iced Coffee Hour*, with a revelation about his most ambitious project yet: rebuilding an underwater McLaren P1 that he purchased for $575,000 and which is now valued at over $2 million. He discusses the origins of his obsession with cars, tracing it back to childhood curiosity with Legos and trains, before detailing how modifying a cheap Nissan Maxima led him into automotive journalism at Jalopnik. His career took off after creating a viral video exposing an Aston Martin Vantage he bought from Doug Deiro for $36,000 as being filled with parts from other manufacturers like Volvo and Ford; this stunt garnered over a million views and allowed him to save enough cash to eventually purchase his own Lamborghini Gallardo. Tavarish emphasizes that while cars often attract male attention rather than female interest in the dating market, they serve as significant status symbols for men who appreciate both aesthetics and engineering artistry. The conversation shifts deeply into personal struggles, specifically addressing Tavarish's divorce after a ten-year marriage where he felt his needs were unmet despite having children together. He candidly admits to finding another woman while still married because staying in an unhappy relationship was not serving him or his daughter, whom he wanted to raise in a home free of parental conflict and anxiety rather than one based on obligation alone. Tavarish reflects on the guilt associated with this period but concludes that it is better for everyone involved if people leave relationships when they are no longer good for them. He contrasts his current relationship, where he feels truly seen and loved by his partner who acts as both a lover and best friend, against the lack of spark in his previous marriage, noting that happiness was something he previously shrugged off until meeting someone compatible with him. Tavarish also addresses criticisms regarding YouTuber WhistleAndDiesel's destructive stunts, defending them as entertainment rather than disrespect for history or property values. He argues that destroying a $600,000 Ferrari in the field is comparable to burning food and should not be judged by those who assume content creators do not work hard enough; he believes anyone with sufficient wealth could destroy valuable items if they chose to. Furthermore, he discusses his views on replica cars versus genuine supercars, expressing skepticism about spending decades building replicas that look like million-dollar vehicles when a real car can often be acquired for less money over time. He warns against the safety risks of poorly constructed replicas but acknowledges the appeal of owning a factory vehicle with proper safety systems to lend out to friends and family without fear of malicious damage. Looking toward financial stability, Tavarish reveals that he does not currently invest in stocks or real estate due to his own uncertainty about those markets, though he plans to explore index funds like the S&P 500 for long-term growth. He highlights the immense overhead costs associated with producing high-quality content and traveling frequently for podcasts, citing recent health issues from jet lag as a downside of their lifestyle despite being "blessed." The episode concludes with an invitation for viewers to attend his upcoming car event at Circuit Florida in December called Wrench Works, where he plans to showcase his collection alongside other automotive YouTubers. Throughout the interview, Tavarish maintains that success is never enough and expresses a fear of peaking too early, driving him to continue working hard until "the wheels fall off" rather than becoming ego-driven or complacent in his achievements.
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how's it going guys my name is tarish
and I have a
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problem what started your obsession with
cars honestly I was just like a kid that
loved to uh take stuff apart put them
put them back together welcome to
another grand day I just saw a
Lambo that was the first time I thought
okay well maybe can replicate this
you don't have to go more extreme you
just have to have a compelling
story every red flag is is a green flag
for me I looked at this P1 that was
underwater and I was like we should do
this I do have something on the horizon
that I think you guys are going to love
and my most ambitious project ever and I
think I needed just to realign myself a
little bit with
that Fred thank you so much for coming
on the iced coffee hour oh it's uh it's
it's awesome I i' I've watched you guys
for a very very long time that is so
cool and thank you for showing us your
Warehouse so you've shown us over 30
cars that you own I've been a huge fan
of this P1 series that you have going on
well it's right now it's like a p like5
or something hopefully in the next month
or so we'll have an engine and a
drivetrain and hopefully we'll have it
running yeah what would you see the
value of this collection is worthless I
I honestly don't know um I think the
vinwiki guys have uh put like a number
on it I think it was somewhere like 2
million or more than that I it's
probably more than that because the P1
alone is I mean I paid 575 for it but
now now it's now it's famous you know so
now it's probably worth 576 so that's uh
that's what we call profit good Roi it's
really good Roi it's been
$575,000 and now you make $1,000 that's
good what started your obsession with
cars honestly I I was just like a kid
that love to uh take stuff apart put
them put them back together I liked
Legos as a kid and um I like cars trains
planes uh just anything that just moved
um I love the engineering of it I love
the art about it when I became 18 I got
a Nissan Maxima um which was just the
the fastest car the planet cuz I had a
V6 and 190 horsepower then I did a bunch
of stuff to that uh learned a lot of
stuff along the way you know did a
manual conversion did an engine swap it
just kind of LED from there and tavarish
is not your born name it's not your
birth name where's that come from and
you have a interesting story of where
you were born tarish is a Russian word
and it means comrade or friend um and I
came up with it when I was 12 and I
couldn't think of anything more clever
so um I was originally born in Russia
essenti the Soviet Union so I was born
in ' 87 and I came over to the states uh
in 1990 when everything started you know
falling apart Russian is my first
language it was just a part of my
identity and tvarish was just a thing
that I felt uh I could carry as a
moniker but it's it's phonetically
spelled incorrectly uh from what it
would be like from in Russian so in
Russian it would be t o v a r i s c if
you were to spell it phonetically um but
uh I I wanted to put a little bit of a
spin on it sort of you know like an
American IED spin on it how were they
able to go from Russia to living in the
United States was that a difficult
process no so we I believe um were
refugees uh because uh when the Soviet
Union came down we could we could apply
for you know Refugee status we landed
here and we lived in New Jersey and my
mom was she became like a bank teller
and then my my dad uh got any job that
he could which would which included like
cleaning toilets and you know basically
making ends meat so we essentially lived
in uh a Housing Development which I've
said was like projects before it's let's
say it's project adjacent um it was very
nears makes no difference the the
projects and we lived there with my uh
aunt and uncle uh and we lived in a in a
small room in their uh in their
apartment until we can get our own
apartment which wasn't really much
better uh like down the street and then
uh from there my parents just worked and
worked and worked and worked and then
they could afford their own house which
is where they live today where do you
think men's Obsession generally speaking
comes from with cars that's a good qu
are we on the philosophy coffee hour
like I just I just don't know because I
feel like guys generally speaking aren't
super Aesthetics oriented you know what
I mean but cars for a lot of guys like
they appreciate the beauty of it they
also like the mechanics and you know the
engine and stuff like that but where
does that come from okay so there are
there are several things at play here
number one guys are absolutely about
Aesthetics because you have guys who are
into watches and you guys are into
clothes and and all this other stuff and
because you want to attract a mate you
know you want to attract people who are
like-minded you want to involve yourself
into a club or show a certain status uh
I think cars do all of that in a very
quick way so if I drive up in a uh Honda
Civic that says one thing about me but
if I drive up in let's say a BMW M3 that
says something else you know and what
that what that means to another person
that's that's up to them but it
definitely has a different statement so
you have socioeconomic status you have
uh style you know the car can be like an
interesting color so that says something
about you so it it's it's a bit like
peacocking uh for for guys like so a lot
of guys have that but then there's the
uh the engineering aspect of it where
you just appreciate a piece of
engineering as art you can look at a
engine you can be like oh well that has
independent throttle bodies and it has
this much power to waight and blah blah
blah and this is really really cool and
I love the way it sounds and you know it
vibrates under your foot and you know
you can appreciate that but most people
like if you just dumb it down most
people men and women uh it's just about
status as far as the peacocking goes a
lot of people are under the impression
that you get a car like like a charger
like an American Muscle and you're
attracting all of the attention from
other guys when you were single would
you say that driving around in a nicer
car definitely helped you out a little
bit in the dating Marketplace no no
absolutely absolutely not if you if you
buy a car and you want to get women you
need to you need to re-evaluate your
your uh your your life choices because
cars only attract dudes if you're into
dudes though like oh my God oh my God
that is like a gold mine for dudes yeah
um no wonder Graham has the 4 GT exactly
exactly uh no listen every car here uh
attracts uh exactly zero women
um I mean you could get them into these
cars and they'll have a good time sure
and maybe like pick them up on a date
and it'll be a nice date but no woman
has ever come up to me and said oh my
God who's driving that car it's always
some dude who's like oh dude how fast
have you got how much does it cost and
blah blah blah and like more than I can
afford pal so that that sort of thing is
just it's what people think will get you
a date and laid but it won't actually
read an article that went over the most
attractive cars for men to drive to
attract women and at the top of the list
I think was Porsche just because it has
that kind of status and classiness to it
but I was surprised to see a Mini Cooper
was on there and the Volkswagen
Beetle or not be yes yes why because I
think a lot of women want to drive that
car like the car so that if they see a
guy driving that car that's the car that
they themselves want same with a Mini
Cooper like a convertible Mini Cooper
the Porsches are also like very feminine
looking cars uh so I think maybe that
says something about the men you know
maybe maybe just get in touch with your
feminine side you know maybe it's not
it's not all about holding frame
sometimes it's about what's in here you
know when did you start fixing up cars
when they started breaking this is my
car trying to
start um so honestly when I when I had
my Nissan Maxima I wanted to modify it
because I didn't have a lot of money and
I wanted a nice car because I thought
nice cars got your girls uh and now I
know that that's not true but oh well so
I late now yeah I was like whoops I'm
too too far this um I thought you know I
could get like a bigger stereo so I went
on Craigslist and found the cheapest you
know two 12in Sony explode subwoofers
that I could fit in my trunk and then
you know wired them up and then I
realized hey I don't want an automatic
anymore I want a manual so I I learned
how to uh convert my car into a manual
and then uh I wanted a little bit more
power so I figured hey why don't I do an
engine swap so I swap the engine with
something a little bit bigger and then
from there just kind of snowballed into
well what other cars can I go into that
are cheap like I can get them cheap and
then maybe modify them a little bit and
then enjoy them at the time I couldn't
keep them so I would like sell them and
try to do like a a profit thing like uh
the show Wheeler Dealers um but I think
I wasn't a good salesperson at all so I
would never really make any money doing
it and um the price for all this awesome
performance uh value is uh th000 bucks
so uh I ended up just breaking even but
I had a cool story uh so then basically
what I took from that is I uh I took the
experience that I had from uh modifying
fixing and uh restoring these cars and
then I made that into a career uh
because that got me into Automotive
journalism later where was the money
coming from uh this is me just saving up
this is I mean these cars were cheap I I
I used to get cars for like
$500 so yeah I was uh these this is not
a lot of money how long does it take to
learn how to repair a car I've always
wondered because I I was on a bit of a
mission for a while to buy like an old
kind of fun sporty car so I bought a
Mazda Miata yeah miata's always the
answer it came with so many problems and
I started learning like the basics like
spark plugs and random stuff like that
but if the average person wants to know
kind of the basics of fixing up a car
and maybe if it's not running they can
check a few things that do 85% of the
solution how long would you say it takes
to to learn the basics learning the
basics doesn't take long at all um I
mean anybody that has some sort of um
mechanical knowledge like if you're
coming in from
zero maybe a few weeks you know I'm
coming in from zero yeah gram had a hard
time replacing the the wiper fluid oh
yeah when we were together yeah oh that
was tough I went on thankfully it's all
on YouTube but I typed in the car I
think it was the Volvo at the time 2006
Volvo uh and I found somebody who like
open up the hood one it was one of those
and it was just some dude who's like hey
guys chrisfix here I you how to replace
this and it was like a two-minute video
it got right to the point and just I
gave it a like
did my part and it was easy but yeah I'm
not mechanically inclined at all you
know my job is not for everybody to be
mechanically inclined because I don't
think that would be uh realistic I I
think my job is just to entertain people
and and show them that there are
insurmountable problems like for from
the outset and then you can you know
kind of like eating an elephant just
just take it one bite at a time so
whether it's you know putting uh fluid
in a Volvo or like rebuilding a a
million dooll hyper car um you can do it
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what the problems are and then solve
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let's get back to the podcast so how did
you start your channel and start getting
on this path of becoming tarish so I uh
became an automotive journalist I wrote
with a uh company called Jalopnik and
Jalopnik for those people that don't
know is a um it's a car blog I mean it
was one of the biggest car blogs on
earth now I think it's kind of a shell
of its former self um but uh we had a
lot of people we had Tyler Hoover we had
Doug deiro like a lot of people that are
uh you know prominent in the automotive
space now started in Jalopnik that gave
me a really big um jumping off point
because not
only did they pay me to I mean I wasn't
paid a lot but they paid me something to
learn how audiences work like big
audiences you know uh I I remember
having an article do 100,000 views and
I'm like oh my God and you have comments
there so you have like instant feedback
to what people actually think and you
can interact with people and it was such
a big you know like Eureka moment of
like okay now I can command an audience
and and then you know I want to see how
people can actually digest my content um
without me having to guess and what was
the first video that you made on YouTube
that really started taking off well the
first YouTube video was of the Aston
Martin that I had actually it's sitting
right above you right there um and it
was the Aston Martin that I bought from
Doug deuro and the uh video I had was
the things in this Aston Martin that
weren't made by Aston Martin so I had
like the key fob that was like a leather
WRA key fob but I cut out the key fob
and uh like the back of the key fob and
then you lift up the flap it says Volvo
and like they it's just such a thinly
veiled thing like they just put a piece
of the leather over it just so it
doesn't say Volvo but then it's like a
bunch of other stuff in the car it's
like a like a part spin car so you have
parts from Jaguar Ford and you know the
the the the stock is like from a Ford
tourist it cost $20 you know the mirrors
are like from a Volvo S60 you know
things like that and I think that video
got like a million views and I'm like oh
my God this was this was crazy but that
was the first time I thought okay well
maybe there's something in it for me
that I can you know cuz I can replicate
this cuz this was all my car my take and
my idea for you know making a video so
I'm like maybe I have more ideas that
can that can actually you know make
sense like this how did you afford an
Aston Martin from Doug Deo so that car
was
$36,000 and I saved up uh I have
actually went to my parents place um I
was there yesterday in New Jersey and in
my room my my childhood room was a board
on one side of it it says like uh SEO um
strategy or whatever so I was trying to
do some like website SEO stuff for a
company that I was um uh that I was
working with and then in one corner it
says Vantage by 2014 and I did that in
2010 and that was my goal for four years
and I was like I don't care what I'm
doing I'm I live with my parents but I
want an Aston Martin V8 Vantage in four
years and uh I think I bought that in
like
2015 or 2016 so I was like one or two
years late but whatever um so I bought
that and uh I remember Doug buying that
car and he bought it for like 40
something thousand and it was his Doug
car and every Doug car that he had I
knew that in a year he would sell
because he was like okay I'm going to
tell you how much it depreciated how
much money I lost and I told him you're
going to be able to you know depreciate
this and do whatever you need to do I
want to be the one that buys it off of
you in a year and he says okay I had
noidea a how much I was you know how I
was going to make that kind of money
because I was making like no money uh I
was like you know I was doing Automotive
journalism so you're making you know I
was making $50 an article but I I I
scrimped and saved and I got all the
money together and I uh I went to
Philadelphia and I bought that car so I
mean that was one of the things that
like I was laser focused on and I got it
done and it was like a very real um
Testament to like if I work really hard
then maybe my dreams can come true did
buy it cash or did you get a loan on
cash the only loan I've ever taken out
on a car is for that P1 wow I've never
had a loan on any other car was it hard
to get a loan on a completely destroyed
vehicle no uh what rate did they give
you uh we could talk about rates I I
don't I don't want to say the maybe we
should save the P1 talk yeah yeah we
could save the P1 talk but uh we also
the the financial talk for the fin
Finance guy here um if I if I start
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Aston Martin you made that video it got
a million or so views yeah that probably
made you a few thousand bucks in AdSense
then oh no no because I had I I didn't
had no idea what a good AdSense strategy
was um you weren't putting mid rolls or
anything in I had no idea what any of
that was so so uh I think I I was just
letting YouTube do the thing I think
maybe I made like $200 or $300 or
something like that and then when that
video did a million views did you
realize now you could have a career
doing YouTube videos buying cars like
this I don't think you know it was like
the the thing that told me I can do this
for for a living I I always knew that I
wanted to do something like this for
work because I wanted into this uh like
industry I wanted into this world um
that's why I wanted to be an automotive
journalist and you know I wanted to go
all all around the world and see these
cars that you know nobody ever sees how
do you how do you get in front of like
Christian von kig egg and see his new
car like I don't know but I I know these
people do so why don't I talk to them
and ask them I did a lot of talking to
people that have been doing things
longer than me and then trying to learn
as much as I like trying to be a sponge
for what they know when would you say
the money started coming in then because
all these cars I imagine it's not you
know cheap to to have no it's actually
very incredibly expensive um so the the
money started coming in once I got my
Lamborghini which is that sounds you
know like there should be one before
once I got my Lamborghini that's when
the it sounds like a small loan of a
million dollars um no no so I actually
had to sell my Aston Martin um I sold it
for exactly what I bought it for
$336,000 to my friend Gregson at
shifting lanes and um cuz I had a little
bit of money saved up I put that money
and my saved up money and bought a
64,000
Lamborghini Gallardo spider and once I
started making videos on that that was a
first exotic car rebuild because it was
fire damage that wasn't running and I
got it running like this is before I had
a shop or anything like that I did it
all in my two-car garage about 10
minutes from here and then people
started watching and my channel exploded
like it went from 150,000 subscribers to
like 500,000 in like 3 months and um I
know a lot of people were taking note of
that so uh I think that year and the
year year after a lot of other YouTubers
were like oh and I got this car from
Copart and I got this and I got this and
like it's all all these exotic car
rebuilds and now all you see are people
trying to want up each other and and
getting like the next crazy crazy build
and like this car uh hit a house and
exploded and you know it's on fire for
72 years and uh and then you know they
try to rebuild stuff like that I I don't
want to say I started it but it was
definitely one of the projects that that
made that uh sort of more of a household
name yeah how did you afford a
Lamborghini though 64 Grand yeah well Ju
Just with I had some money saved up okay
um and then and then just uh with the 36
grand um so that's again I don't spend
any money on myself uh I I wear the same
clothes that I always wear I I get cheap
T-shirts um don't really go I mean the
only thing I spend money on now is cars
and vacations back then I couldn't
afford Vacations so it's like I spent
all money on cars so if I if I would
have went broke doing the car thing then
um you know it's that it's just a
business thing anyway so I want to see
you know worst case scenario if I bought
this car and it just didn't like I
couldn't get it started or whatever I
can still make some money back uh
selling it for parts I can at least get
get what I've got out of it or if I you
know lost5 or $10,000 that's fine for
the gamble you know so you were pretty
calculated terms of your purchase very
slightly calculated I I it's it's more
of a like I have a brain and I know how
my brain works and I will fixate on
something until I get something to work
and worst and again just worst case
scenario if I had to sell this car for
parts I could do it and make my money
back it wouldn't be great it would be
you know me uh having to tuck my tail
between my legs but I I could do it and
it's it's fine there a bet on yourself
essentially yeah and where did the
confidence come to allow you where where
you thought I can buy a 62 or $64,000
burn down Lamborghini and make it run
again was that just after like years of
working on cars I was excited to see a a
problem that I hadn't seen before I
really like solving problems I like
solving problems that nobody has solved
before um because it it allows me to be
creative in solving those problems
that's one of the reasons why you know I
got the P1 I got all these other cars
because each one presents very specific
very novel problems and that really
excites me it's not it's not that like
oh I really love Lamborghinis like I do
I like Lamborghinis they're they're cool
you know like but you know what's better
knowledge so yeah there you go yeah I
think I found your channel it was
initially I don't know what came first
uh I remember seeing the cheapest
S-Class yes and you bought that for like
how much was like three grand yeah like
three grand or something and how much
was that new new they were like 80 grand
back and that was back in
2000 um so yeah and then I bought it for
three so it's like I I love depreciated
cars how does an $80,000 car get sold
for $3,000 because a lot of things
happen so uh that Mercedes which is the
w220 it's a 2000 it had so many
electrical Gremlins just for for
instance the door locks uh were air
powerered so yeah like so so it doesn't
make the cl cl cl clink you know like
like most normal cars make so the
S-Class they wanted it to be more
like you know so that was all Air
powerered so the lumbar support was air
powered the headrests that come up they
were air powerered and all that stuff
would always go wrong so I bought this
car and of course like nothing worked
but I figured that I could learn a
little bit about how this car worked
because I wanted a nice car I didn't
have a lot of money so um I bought an
electronic ignition system with a key
basically it's just a where you put the
key it's like a little RFID key and uh I
knew that you had to pair that with the
ECU and the shifter so I ended up buying
this from like a junkyard for like $300
I went out I was living in New Jersey at
the time and uh I went out to like
Clifton New Jersey which is like 45
minutes away from where uh where we were
you know living and uh ended up buying
this installing it in a weekend and then
I had a running car so like I buy this
car just a kind of sight and scene for
three grand I had a toad and then you
know then I end up getting a running car
I'm like and this car had 990,000 mil on
it like other than this electrical issue
it was a totally fine running car the
engines are bulletproof the
Transmissions are bulletproof they're
very they're they're not quick but
they're not slow um it gets decent miles
to the gallon you can have uh five
people in it very comfortably the AC was
great like it's a it's a really really
cool car so how much was that car worth
when you were done fixing it up so uh
the S-Class was probably worth
I I I don't they weren't worth much
really um I think I ended up selling it
for maybe 10 grand or something uh but I
I had done a lot of stuff to it like uh
I I gave it a AMG body kit and some AMG
Wheels but it was just still the same
car so yeah I think I think around 10 is
where where I sold it I think where I
started really following your channel
was when you bought the Pimp My Ride o
van yeah that was an interesting one how
do how does it how do you find that car
to begin with it's such like a
well-known kind of famous car selling
for so cheap it was I believe you bought
it for $800 so it's I I don't know maybe
it's kind of like the uh the supermodel
that's in a bar you you assume
everybody's hitting on her but nobody's
hitting on her cuz everybody else thinks
that that even though it's not really a
supermodel in a bar it was a old car in
a junkyard um so you have this uh this
Pimp My Ride minivan that's like pink
and purple and whatever ever and I I saw
this on a Craigslist ad and it was uh in
up in Boston or Rhode Island or
something like that it was up for sale
for $850 and this thing needed all the
work in the world but it said this was
on Pimp My Ride and I mean I verified it
it's like that that was the van and I
gave him a call and I said hey is this
still available they they said yeah I
can wire you money right now and I'll
have a car I have a truck come pick it
up if I just lost my money that would
have been fine like for the for the
story if if they would have just like
taken my 850 bucks um I would have been
okay with that like as just a
transaction just to make sure that I had
that car because uh when it came here it
was very clear that like everything
needed refurbishment and that means that
you know we could solve all these really
you know kind of funky issues so over
the course of like a week or two we got
everything working back in that car uh
it had a disco floor a a had nine um
screens had three screens that that went
uh kind of like popped down from the
ceiling uh it had a bunch of subers in
the back um had a jewelry making station
and the seats were made of denim uh it
had like a a footrest that was also a
giant monitor uh but they didn't have
like LCD screens they had like plasma
screens that were super heavy so this
thing needed like a big like actuator to
move it you know that series on my
channel did something like 22 23 million
views so uh it was like number one on
trending and it was doing something like
400,000 views an hour wow um yeah it was
great I I never ever thought and it was
like a $850 van best Roi car right there
yeah I'd say so yeah yeah yeah I think
that car um that van made me like 250
Grand like off those off those videos
it's half of a P1 oh yeah yeah well half
of that P1 yeah half of a salvage P1 or
a really really nice house yeah that's
how much do you think they spent on Pimp
My Ride to do that car back in the day
they did those cars in in like a month
or two I would I would wager they
probably put in 10 grand of like work
and they they got all the stuff for free
anyway um but like labor wise I'd say
probably like maybe 10 grand um they
they got some crappy paint on there they
the actual work that they did uh credit
where credit is due was good um they
wired everything properly they uh they
did things where you know they had like
if they had to split a signal that would
give it power um so it wouldn't degrade
the signal because that it was all RCA
back then um so yeah it was it was
actually you know well-wired but it just
didn't stand the test of time yeah did
you end up selling that uh no so I uh I
ended up giving it to a museum as tax
write off um so but the Muse I might be
getting it back I talked to the museum
and we might be doing something with
them so it's a Peterson Automotive
Museum in LA are you serious yeah it's
over there now but I might be getting it
back as a package deal with something
else that we we might be working on wow
so yeah so how does it work if you
donate a car to the Peterson Museum
basically they uh they give you a gift
of deed um or deed of gift or something
like that and uh you sign over the car
and and everything to them since they're
a a nonprofit organization um you can
you know you can ESS eventally just
write it off like you were to give it a
cars for kids or something um so you
know I had an appraisal of this as a
certain amount like say 100 Grand or
whatever so like you can write that
essentially write that off yeah
interesting and how do they how do they
value a car they like Pimp My so they
they didn't do the appraisal so I I did
the I I had somebody else do an
appraisal so you need like a third party
to do an appraisal um but uh Priceless
yeah it's Priceless but you can it's
yeah I mean could I could have said $3
million why not you know don't just
don't pay taxes anymore I think like
realistically with the show and with the
uh the amount of YouTube views and all
that stuff and the fact that we you know
drove across country and we it's been on
other channels and whatever like you can
make the case that this is worth this
amount of money just in terms of like
sentimental value you know I agree with
that what has been the most pain in the
butt random thing that's come up while
you're fixing a car I remember for my
Mazda Miata we had this one thing where
we ran we put a whole new sound system
in the car super nice we spent half the
value of the car just on the sound
system alone and remember we wired the
whole thing we took days and days on
this whole thing I had no idea what I
was doing so it took a long time and I
had help of my roommate which was very
nice but I remember we wired everything
it was good we tried to listen to the
system and it wasn't working 5 hours
later we learned because it's an SE a
2se that one has a hidden amp that's
under the center console way down there
and all of the wires were being routed
through that and that made it so
everything else but no one's working on
a 200 SE it's just like the normal Miata
so no one was talking about it and then
finally after going deep Dives on the
forums you learn there's a hidden
amplifier that basically made all of our
wiring useless unless if we completely
bypassed that amp so what has been like
some random thing that just gave you a
headache for a long time so the the
thing that happens uh when you deal with
cars like this is that there there's not
really any forums that you can go to um
that that have any uh solutions for you
so let's say if you're working on a P1
we didn't know how to take the clam
shell off and it's not like there's
there's you know documentation on how to
do that so we're trying to find all
these bolts and all these bolts they're
they're they're well hidden because you
don't want to see bolts on a car that's
you know a million and a half dollars so
we're like prying on this thing and
we're we're just like saying like all
right well it seems like it's stuck here
and we're like looking underneath the
car and it's always like one like stupid
8 mm bolt and I remember on this car
when I was taking the dash apart and the
dash is this giant carbon piece and I
like on video you see me just like
wrenching this thing I'm trying to I'm
like it's stuck on something I think
it's uh the the steering column but the
I took the bolt out and it should be
good to go and it was like one tiny 8 mm
bolt that I forgot and I went underneath
I go oh Okay click click click click and
then it just comes right out I'm like oh
my God oh my it's it just it's one of
those like well there's your problem but
like you you I swear I looked under 10
times to to look at this and it was just
like staring me in the face and I'm like
oh that would explain it so there's
there's plenty of those um examples
everywhere in cars
and uh like I don't know when I was
working on a Bentley Continental GT I
bought one of those cars for like 11
Grand because it needed everything
needed basically an engine out and those
cars you need um there's these vacuum
hoses that are on top of the engine the
only way you get to those vacuum hoses
and they do crack that's why you need to
get to them uh the only way to get to
them is to take out the entire engine
and that is essentially like a freaking
Bugatti Veyron where you know you have
12 cylinders and two turbos and it's
all-wheel drive and it's a giant power
unit they have to bring down and
everything has to be disconnected you
have to take down the um the steering
and the suspension and all that stuff
and just to get to these little like 70
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podcast tell us a story of how you
bought the McLaren P1 and why you went
to such an extreme in terms of what many
would call a gamble like you didn't know
it would get you know become as popular
as it did I mean I started this project
by seeing this card die like everybody
else did um on social media so on
Instagram and Tik Tok you saw this car
uh during Hurricane Ian floating down
the street because its owner looked at
it uh you know was was watching it from
his uh door uh and you know float out of
the garage and down the street into a
tree and all that stuff and eventually
it got uh lodged on what some people say
it's toilet I don't think it's a toilet
I think it's probably an outboard motor
or something and uh then for the next
three months nobody really heard
anything about it but then I saw that it
went up for sale on Copart and Copart is
this uh you know site where you can buy
salvage cars and whatever and I didn't
want to buy it I really didn't want to
buy it cuz I said well this is a
million-dollar hyper car it's hybrid so
it has an electric battery and it was
all the way underwater and it's
saltwater and saltwater does really
really bad things to everything
especially electrical so um I said this
there's nothing on this car that's like
savable it's like there you have to
replace everything the auction started
and then I think they put a Buy It Now
of the car and there was a lot of um you
talk about what this car would go for
and I know Houston Kosta is a friend of
mine he wanted to buy the car or and I
know some other like dismantlers they
wanted to buy the car just as like parts
or you know artwork or something and
they were in into it for like if it goes
for 200 Grand I'll buy it you know or if
it goes for 250 first it went up for
auction and it went up to $400,000 and
it no sailed uh so then it went up for
auction a second time and it went for $
398 so we knew that the market was
around 390 like about about 400 grand
for this car that's what people were
actually willing to pay uh so then they
put a Buy It Now of 600 Grand on this
car 600 Grand was about half of what the
car would be worth in good condition
that car in particular was sold for $2
million uh 10 10 days before the storm
hit cuz it was like had 3155 M on it it
was a really really good spec it was
like the the launch spec it was awesome
car I saw that the Buy It Now went from
600 to 575 and I'm like hey so the the
universe is now talking to me and the
universe says you have to buy this car
so I went to one of my friends uh one of
my friends who has some money and I said
hey do you know anybody who would be
willing to lend me half a million
dollars like in the next few days and he
said actually I do so there is a bank
that's here in Central Florida it's
actually I mean I can give him a shout
out it's climate First Bank I told them
the entire story I didn't I wasn't like
oh well I have this car but wink wink
you know it does actually have a good
title but I just can't find it um no I
told him here's this car it was
underwater here's all the videos this is
what I do I make YouTube videos I have
these exotic cars I've done exotic cars
in the past and they were very amiliar
with what I did because uh sort of like
friends of friends they were like you
know fans or whatever and I said here's
how much I need for this car I need 575
Grand uh and I I think I added an extra
thing for like you know Transportation
or initial parts or whatever so I think
I'm into it like
600 and they wrote me a check or I mean
they sent a check over to
Copart three days later we got
everything done for the loan in 3 days
what's their collateral on that because
don't you say boy you're looking at it
okay so it's not the car itself because
they're taking a loss on this but you
could basically say hey this doesn't
work out you we got all these other cars
yes one good thing is I don't I don't
Finance any of my cars so all my cars
are completely paid off uh by me so I I
buy I buy all my cars cash so that means
that I own all my cars I have this you
know this garage full of cars here's
what they're worth here's what you know
some comps are and I will give you the
titles to these you can have them as
lean
and uh and that way I want to have my
car so I I literally put my enti put it
up for this car what rate did you get on
that loan not well we we can talk about
that off camera because it's uh it's
it's more than 10 and less than 15 okay
okay yeah you we'll talk we'll talk
after
there financing options so so the so the
financing was was not my main concern
because my main concern was just getting
the car I knew I could make money off
the content and I knew that I could make
you know make the content work if I have
to pay 60 Grand what a year or something
like that on uh to to have a P1 and have
that on my channel and have that I think
that's probably worth it just because
nobody else in the world would be doing
this so I I felt like that was a a
pretty good thing to to do yeah I'm
curious for the original owner of the P1
they bought a $2 million car and then
effectively a week later it completely
flooded yeah what did they do what did
they was there any recourse their
insurance how much did that cover
especially when they sold it still for
effectively 600 so next to this P1 was a
brand new Rolls-Royce Phantom and they
were actually in the same Copart U like
facility and the Rolls-Royce was in
really really really bad shape it looked
like a like the Hulk just smashed it uh
yeah I think he got paid out pretty well
so the car he bought after this was a
Bugatti Chiron so I think he's okay he's
okay yeah he's all right so for the P1
what's been the most surprising aspect
in terms of working on it just
the fact that it is so everything there
is bespoke like everything in that car
is carbon fiber uh the wheel wells which
in most cars are plastic or whatever
carbon fiber there is a lot of like F1
technology in there so uh you know the
wing has all these uh crazy Hydraulics
that are only for the car they have to
be you know calibrated specifically for
this model and uh that works in
conjunction with the suspension and then
everything else is bespoke and you know
I thought because it's McLaren oh
they're going to have like a lot of
parts that can go on different McLarens
or whatever it's actually very little of
that I've had to re like reverse
engineer a lot of the stuff that they
did uh at the factory because um I know
rebuilding a P1 sounds like uh it's it's
really easy uh but I actually wanted to
go one step further and with this car
we're trying to make the fastest McLaren
on Earth so you know instead of of the
p1's original top speed which is like
217 mph which was limited by tires or
whatever uh we're trying to go for um
the record McLaren which is the McLaren
speed tail it's at 250 so I want to do
like you know 250 plus 260 270 something
like that how much do you think you're
going to spend on this McLaren including
the car less than a million dollars for
sure and what do you think it's going to
be worth by the time you're done with it
that never matters to me I don't know
because it all depends on a few things
so the only thing that matters to people
to buyers is like provenance so a car
could have been crashed it could have
something terrible could have happened
to it but as long as it was fixed right
or it has the right provenance it's
still worth a lot of money like Mr Bean
McLaren F1 got crashed twice oh but yes
but it's still you know that car is
still worth 20 something million dollars
it's not it's never going to be you know
worthless hunk of crap so I think if I
rebuilt this and it was to the um sort
sort of to the the standard of you know
what a McLaren should be and it got the
okay from McLaren or it got uh you know
some accolades where it's like the
fastest McLaren on Earth or you know we
had it out to Goodwood and it and it set
some records or just did something
notable I think people would be like oh
my God this is a really special car yeah
um so and then I don't know what the
what the value would be I mean you know
$2 million3 million I have no idea um or
it could just be people think that it
was built by some stupid YouTuber and
then they want to pay any money at all
so I don't it doesn't matter to me yeah
when do you think it's going to be done
because you did a podcast a few months
ago where you said two to three months
two two to three months two to three
months yeah I didn't say when those two
to three months were starting so there
you go that's a good point yeah there
you go um no uh I think I'm always very
optimistic very unrealistic with time
like timetables my time management
skills suck I always want these projects
to to be quicker than they are but then
you get hit in the face with reality
where you're like okay well just the
wiring harness which is back there um
the wiring harness took $52,000 into
that wiring harness in 5 months of work
and this is uh one of my friends Adam he
runs a company called smart EFI and and
he's done all the wiring work to this
car and we had to make a wiring harness
for a P1 from scratch and this includes
custom making a lot of stuff uh because
not only are we I'm going to get a
little bit here but uh the the original
P1 has uh eight injectors we have 16
injectors now we have different turbos
so everything is electronically
controlled uh but we have to make that
integrate with all the P1 stuff you mean
you know which means that there's um
more fans and more Hydraulics and more
you know this and that and the active
Arrow has to work and all that stuff so
that's that's a big hurdle uh and then
you go to the body work so the body work
I want it to be all exposed carbon fiber
but then we have to put you know can
over it in order for it to be exposed
carbon fiber we have to um you know fix
the Body Works that's there then overlay
carbon fiber make it perfect do the same
thing for the doors and make everything
fit and you know because we're doing a
bespoke body for it so you know how much
does that cost how long does that is
that going to take I don't know how much
original McLaren is going to be left by
the time you're done with it terms of
like a percentage I mean the the tub is
going to be left um the frames are
original McLaren uh I mean everything's
a McLaren part
um but we're just like modifying it and
just kind of making it better and you
know kind of it's just going to be a
Chopped and Screwed version of of what
uh what the car used to be yeah so if
you're all in on this car let's say a
million or so bucks by the end of it do
you think that you could have started
from scratch and done it for like 800
just built your own McLaren maybe but I
mean that there's no way I can get a a
tub of of P1 you know like there's
there's certain thing for me it's all
about the story and the story is that
this car died famously like everyone saw
this car die and everyone is going to be
rooting for either either my failure or
My Success uh nobody's going to be like
oh I don't really care they're going to
be like oh my God that's that seems like
it's like it's impossible how's this guy
going to do it or this guy's never going
to do it and I want to see him fail you
know so I I'd rather you know that be
the story of the car versus me just
going I want to make a car from scratch
let's see if I can do it and then I just
have
$800,000 and I'm rich and I want to
build a car so here you go like I I
don't want that I want to be like the
guy that's that buys this car that's way
above his pay pay grade and he puts
everything on the line literally that
he's built over the years to do it so
that's that's sort of where I'm at now
on YouTube there is this Essence that
you have to keep one-upping yourself you
have to keep going more and more extreme
because your audience is now going to
set the bar at like a mlar in P1 do you
worry what's going to happen when you're
done with this car and how you move on
from that to something that your
audience wants to see or that's even
better no because uh um it you don't
have to go more extreme you just have to
have a compelling story and it's all
about the story it could be it could be
this car it could be something notable I
mean the Pimp My Ride van did better
than the P1 ever did um so you know I
can't pull 10 million views a video on a
P1 uh but I can with a minivan if I find
a car it has to have a really
interesting storyline it has to have
something that goes all right well that
is a project that will never get done in
my eyes but I want to see you solve all
these problems to make the impossible
possible do it ever worry you driving
such an expensive car I mean you have
quite a few here yeah that are worth
money how do you get over that fear do
you um I mean there's always a fear but
at C at a certain point it just becomes
a car you know it's like you know you
fart in the seats you have some Chicken
McNuggets and like that that's it it
just becomes a car like I I remember I'm
going to I'm going to name drop so when
I went to J Leno's garage I I took my
McLaren 675 LT and it was really really
cool I mean Jay Len was driving my car
that I that I built and it was it was
awesome and then we go into this little
parking lot and he scrapes the bumper
and first of all I'm okay with that
because that's what a bumper is for but
he scrapes the bumper and I'm like okay
well those are my jayleno scrapes you
know like it's it's not you know what
did he say when he did H what did he say
anything when he scraped the bomb no but
I I also I also didn't say anything okay
so I'm like whatever um it it's because
it doesn't matter to me um and you know
I I a car is meant to be driven if like
one of my guys here if we're like moving
cars or like they they take the car like
because I I I let people borrow cars all
the time so if they if they borrow a car
to take their wife out on a date and
then I don't know they get a scratch on
it or something like okay like it's it's
not it's not a big like if if they were
being malicious and like I saw them
doing donuts and and whatever and like
they didn't care and they're like
smashed up the door like yeah then then
I'll get mad but if it's like it's like
a you know a mistake and like nobody
cares like it's it's fine it it happens
to everybody I'm not worried about it I
would never get mad about that you lend
your cars out to your employees to take
their wives on dates well they're not
they're not my employees they're I just
I just yeah yeah my friend so um if
somebody goes hey I want to you know
take the the Aston out like this is not
like if if if you're a subscriber don't
like come come to me please uh no but
just like uh you know my my good friends
and I know that they're going to they're
going to treat the car right yeah Rex is
looking at me over here like yeah um
yeah Rex asked me like every once in a
while he's like hey can I take the GT3
out I'm like you go ahead buddy um huh I
would what a well hold on what a good
friend you are because I've been saying
that Grahams should let me borrow his
Lotus I was saying he should let me
borrow his Lotus if I ever were to go on
a date yeah and he says no I'm always
worried about insurance the last thing I
want is for there to be an incident to
file a claim with the insurance company
and for them to say sorry you can take
my Miata if you want no but but take the
G but the issue is less of that of let's
say someone hits you or you hit them
then they come after me you know that
that's what I'm more worried about
you're ideas
in re is getting scared over there no so
so here's here's the reality of of uh uh
Supercar ownership if you have a car
let's say you have a Lamborghini mercial
Lago lp640 and it's worth about half a
million dollars you're driving down the
street and there are cars that are worth
$20,000 driving down the street uh one
of those cars rearend you or like let's
say sideswipes you or something it's
their it's their fault their insurance
there's no way their insurance like is
going to cover your repair your
insurance goes after them and their life
is ruined because you decided to take a
take a drive out
I'm more worried about that than me like
ruining somebody else's life than
somebody trying to come and be like oh
well I'm GNA I'm going to take that rich
guy's money or whatever because like
honestly that's what insurance is for if
you have good insurance they'll have
lawyers that that will shut those people
right up um I also trust the people that
I give the cars to like they're not
they're not complete idiots and they're
not going to be doing burnouts at least
I hope not um but uh but even if that's
the
case that's something I would be willing
to deal with and then that's a lesson
learned for me it's easier for me to
just lend a car and then have somebody
have a good experience and then and then
that's it and then that car that person
now now exper not now um appreciates
that car the way I do yeah um versus me
just going no it's my car I don't want
makes sense it's partly why I've gotten
really into lately replica cars yeah now
I don't own a replica car but I want to
say over the last year I've become like
really obsessed with the idea of getting
like a replica DIA
or a replica I saw a replica there was
like a P4 Ferrari like an old one from
the 50s or 60s that was gorgeous looking
and the idea that you could own a car
that you know could be worth over a
million dollar probably several million
dollars for a fraction of the price that
looks 95% the same thing seems really
appealing to me even the Diablo that's
behind you I was looking at that it's
like i' I'd rather have this because I
know for myself driving a real thing I'd
never drive it I'd be terrified of it
but driving a replica it's totally fine
you don't have to worry about putting
miles on it it's bulletproof if you want
to do a replica of something like a
little newer um I don't know like a
Ferrari you know Enzo or like I just
just spitballing here something that's
like made in the last 20 years and you
want a replica of that uh usually the
way you do a replica car is by
stretching frames and you know getting a
88 Pontiac Fiero and then just putting
whatever engine in that but then you end
up with a car that's that's literally
hodge podge together and uh that becomes
really really unsafe
uh even though it looks the looks the
part and whatever but like if you get in
a car accident like who knows what
happens when you know this car doesn't
have crumple zone so does the engine
just fall in your lap like what what
happens so I'm I'm more worried about
that end of things uh at least when I
give people like say you know the keys
to a Porsche GT3 or Aston Martin DBS
like those are Factory cars and they
have airbags and stuff like that they
have like Safety Systems so I know if if
they do get sideways or whatever it it
won't be the end of the world it's still
a very safe car yeah that makes sense
for me I I think there's something
appealing about getting an 80s or 90s
car that is a replica that is like one
to one some of these guys spend so much
money and time building out these cars
you know it's it's so crazy and I don't
get it because the the repca cars the
replica car people I just need to say
they're insane they are they are crazy
people because these guys they spend 20
years building this and it's like dude
if you just got a job any job and you
spent all this time working on this you
would have bought the real car in like
half the time like you you didn't have
to have a replica like you would have
like and these people are building
kashes like I built you know Kash in 20
years I'm like bro 20 years ago they
were like they were like free like what
are you talking about like what now that
now they're a million dollars but like
what what are it it just it just what's
even crazier is they go and buy genuine
parts they're like I bought the real
tail lights from the real thing and the
real emblems and the real so
you have all the retail markup on this
stuff and then what what are they they a
good deal if you buy it they never get
their money back no because the divorce
took everything away from those men um
no I I think I like the idea of replicas
um just if
they're I I I guess there's a there's a
there's a weird thing in me where I want
to have like like a oneup on the man you
know uh so like the Diablo behind me you
know that that cost 2030 Grand but if
you if you got a real one a real like 99
VT Roadster that's $400,000 is it 10x
the car probably not you know like so if
you put in another 30 or 40 Grand in
that like you can make it look very very
very convincing um so I think that would
be like a good value but then a part of
me is just thinking like it's it's a
fake handbag and like who are you really
fooling you know like are you trying to
fool people or are you just trying to
have like a fun time for me it's just
like it's a fun time I know it's fake
like if I ever you know get that car and
and register it I'd put like fake Lambo
on the LI license plate or something i'
I'd make it very clear that this is not
a real Lamborghini um but there are
people who are like oh yeah well I have
my Lamborghini it just so happens to
have a Chevy 350 in it you know I do
that cuz it's more reliable um but yeah
I I just never get those people going
back a little early before the P1 really
with your video about getting out of
your comfort zone you you made a video a
few years ago it's just you talking to
the camera going through a difficult
time talking about openly depression and
just feeling just really down and
wanting to reinvent yourself how did you
go about doing that and what what
sparked all of that well I mean you know
there's a lot of uh personal things that
happened in in my life around that time
and uh that year was very pivotal for me
uh especially two years ago um you know
my marriage was falling apart um and I
mean a lot of that was like self icted
um and and then I ended up like
basically finding somebody else and it
was like my my life turned upside down
um in a way that I never I never thought
uh it would you know I lost friends um
but then I gained I gained friends that
you know I didn't think I would uh
people that stuck around and understood
um you know what what went on um so I'm
very very grateful to those people but
like in terms of YouTube what I think uh
I was doing in in those times were like
I was just phoning it in and I knew that
I was happiest when I was trying to
solve problems when I was trying to find
these you know stuff like the P1 and uh
you know these these really big
ambitious goals and I felt like for a
while I was just coasting on my past
successes and it it made me guilty
because I was very very driven by guilt
like just in my relationships and in
general it's a motivator and it's not
it's not a healthy motivator but it just
does help along um
so it was something where I felt like I
wasn't giving my all to my channel and I
I think people deserved better than they
were getting because I felt like I was
just phoning it in and I think that was
the the uh the start point of me saying
all right well it's not me giving up uh
I do have something on the horizon that
was the P1 that I think you guys are
going to love and my most ambitious
project ever um and I think I needed
just to realign myself a little bit with
that because you know there's I mean I I
don't want to get into too much too much
detail but there was there was a lot in
that in that year that just made me
reassess uh almost everything in life
whether it's you know values and and the
um the value of friends uh the values of
family and who you're close to and
relationships and and everything you
know would you be open to talking a
little bit more about that I'm curious
what you learned about yourself and
about those values you know I had a I
had a marriage for quite a long time um
for for about 10 years and you know
during that marriage we had uh you know
we had disagreements like like uh like
every marriage but it was very clear at
the end that we were we're very
different people you know the idea came
up that we should go to counseling and
that that sort of thing and it just
never happened mainly because you know I
I was told oh that this isn't the kind
problem that we need counseling for it
was just kind of like brushed off and a
lot of like the way I felt was like all
my uh my wants and needs weren't really
um taken very seriously uh they were
just sort of like you know maybe pay
some lip service to it and then and then
they just they just go away or or
they're just you know uh I remember once
being told that uh you know I I I told
her I had a really big problem with
something I said hey I'm not happy I I
think we need to fix something and her
reaction was uh it's not that bad you're
just making it up and I'm not trying to
paint her in a in a in a bad light here
because she's not a bad person she's a
very very very good mother um but I I
just that that's the way I felt in that
in that situation and you know based on
that I ended up you know finding
somebody else um and it's NE it's never
something I you know this is the first
time I ever talked about it like um I I
found somebody else that
was everything that I needed like she
was um compassionate and she was funny
and she cared and she felt like it felt
like uh you know when we talked she was
like present and she actually cared
about what I had to say and then I cared
about her and we we really connected in
a way that I've never connect I I didn't
know that it was possible to connect
with a person like that and what that
did for me was it allowed me to finally
put my happiness into the equation
because I realized that for 10 years I'd
been working I'd been you know just kind
of existing um through like obligation
like I felt like things were just
happening to me because I'm the man I'm
the bread winner and like things were
just you know like this is what you need
to do this is the next part of your life
uh get married have a kid you know do
this do that and then at some point
you'll find some happiness but I
happiness was just like something I
Shrugged off I I just felt like other
that was for other people once you meet
a person like that you can't unring that
Bell I could never know that I was that
ha that I could be that happy with a
person like that and then and then go
back to a relationship where I I knew
that I was going to be unhappy so like
you know that's when marriage ended
that's when you know and I'm never a
person that I first of all I'm gonna
don't take any relationship advice from
me ever um but I'm not a person that
would ever you know have a woman on the
side or anything like that I'm not I'm
not that kind of guy um but this this
just seemed like this was the only way
it could happen um so but I I know that
because of that people got hurt
absolutely and and I know that it was uh
it was my fault and I absolutely take
all the responsibility in the world for
for what I did to uh to people I hurt
but I think that there is something to
be said about staying in a relationship
not good for either people especially
when you're that young you know CU you
you guys are still young and so
continuing on on something like that for
the rest of your life just not doing
anybody any favors rather than having
the parents happy and living their own
lives and exactly and and we had I mean
we had uh me and my ex-wife we have we
have a daughter and I I kept on thinking
like is it is it better for us to stay
together for the sake of the daughter
than it is for us to be a part I don't
think there's a right or wrong answer
for this
um because I know parents that have
stayed together uh for the sake of their
kids and for better a like sometimes it
works out sometimes it doesn't I knew
that I didn't want to miss out on the
opportunity to be happy because I knew
that if I if I was happy and I could
provide for my daughter because like I
was a soul bread winner and I I I made
sure that you know my uh my ex-wife and
my daughter are taken care of they they
have the house they have they have every
like she doesn't want for anything I I
she knows that she's loved by uh both
her parents and she sees us and and
everything um so like I I want to show
her that there is a life it might be not
you know not with both parents together
but both parents love you and the both
parents like you can have uh examples of
working relationships where people love
each other and we're all a family and
everybody loves everybody so like that's
I think that was more important for me
to show my daughter um than just staying
with her mom out of obligation I wanted
my daughter to grow up in a house where
we're not fighting um I think it's very
important because that that uh that can
give a lot of anxiety yes um and I don't
want I I I I grew up in a house where
occasionally you know my my mom and dad
would fight and I I I realized that it
would and they wouldn't like fight
physically but they just you know
argument yelling or whatever and um it
would affect me and I knew that it
affected me because I remember sitting I
think it was like fifth or sixth grade
and I was sitting in lunch like with in
with everybody like in the cafeteria and
we would have this teacher that would
Overlook the cafeteria just to make sure
the kids weren't you know killing each
other and the teacher was like screaming
at a kid and I I started crying I should
like uncontrollably I didn't know why
and I was like I started getting
embarrassed I'm like why am I why am I
doing I'm like shaking and I'm thinking
like oh it's BEC it's probably because
um you know I have this like response
where like I have this almost like a
fight or flight when I hear adults
screaming and I can't do anything about
it so maybe it's maybe it's something
like that I don't want my daughter to
ever have that and you know right now
she is like the happiest kid ever she's
four and like she goes everywhere she's
like an the theme parks and she's like
the most spoiled kid ever she loves
going to the pool she loves hanging out
with with us and like yeah it's it's
fantastic so I mean that's we just want
to show her a world with only love and
um and I I think that that's what we're
doing so was there a striking difference
in the beginning of your relationship
with the new person that you're with
versus your ex-wife right in the
beginning you could 100% tell or do you
think that that that striking chemistry
with your ex-wife was maybe lost over 10
years no of marriage you think that
there was an absolute yes Resolute
difference yes well well one thing I
mean when I when I started off uh in in
my relationship that would become my
marriage um that I was 19 when it
started so I mean I was a different
person I I had I mean uh if you think I
have anything to offer Society right now
then I mean I had nothing back then I
was living with my parents up until I
was was 27 uh or 26 and you know it was
um I was a different person but then I
never felt like it was a like a like a
real big spark or anything like that um
but then again I didn't know what I
wanted um cuz you're you're just you
know your brain's still developing and
it just seems like because I've had a
experience of having a relationship for
so long and I knew what I didn't want in
a relationship and it became very
abundantly clear to me especially at the
end um that this person that that came
along she was everything that I wanted
like like literally everything I could
you know right now we're sitting in this
uh you know sitting in my shop but I
can't wait to get home and talk to her
and tell her about my day because she's
my best friend you know and it and it
sounds stupid and sappy but like it's
it's really you know I found I found my
person so I'm curious what advice would
you give your daughter when it comes to
relationships if there's any advice I
would ever give to uh you know my son or
daughter I would just say have somebody
that's patient have somebody that is
willing to accept you for the the kind
of uh person you are uh with all your
flaws how long did it take you to come
out of that uh depression it was quite a
few months I
was um doing a lot so I was filming my
my show C Trek with Ed Bolan and and
Tyler uh I was making the YouTube
channel I was doing like a lot a lot of
things and then um on top of that you
know we had a newborn baby and then the
relationship just wasn't really going
anywhere like it it just wasn't doing
well at all and it just seemed like
everything
was tough I'm not complaining because
this is you know the greatest job in the
world and you know I know a lot of
people would kill for this position but
um there would be times when I got when
you know I to this shop and I see all
the cars and the last thing I want to
see is a car you know cuz it just it's
just anxiety it's just what what needs
to be done next and to turn a wrench
it's like you know it's just like uh
it's the last thing you want to do so um
yeah I mean it it took it took quite a
few months and especially after I moved
out uh that became easier because I
didn't have to uh then you know live in
a house that was that was uh chaotic
um but you know I still went to see my
daughter all that all that stuff and
even though our relationship didn't
wasn't you know good in the end um in
terms of like a husband and wife I still
want to make sure that she's um a a very
effective mother because she's a really
good mother you know and that's like the
most important thing to me uh when it
comes to stuff like that so yeah I I
don't I don't know I mean after that uh
I I moved in with my my girlfriend and
and uh we've been you know we've been
very very happy ever since yeah I just
want to say I really appreciate your
transparency when it comes to stuff like
this situations I'm s sure are like way
more complicated and Nuance than some of
the viewers might be making them out to
be right now yeah I mean to be honest
like I want to make because people are
going to speculate and they're going to
they're going to worry about things that
have nothing to do with them but like I
just want to show the broad strokes and
show that you know if people are in a
relationship that they um don't feel
happy in it might not be the end of the
world to end that relationship like
there is a light at the end of the
tunnel and even if you have you know a
longstanding marriage or kids or
whatever like really think about what
that will mean and sometimes it means
staying together sometimes it means hey
uh let's talk to each other and say um
let's get marriage counseling or like
let's uh let's think of some pros and
cons but sometimes you're just not
compatible like you just realize you've
either Grown Apart or you just never
were there to begin with uh there are
certain things um in life where you
can't feel like you're just you're
settling on on some things like uh you
know if you have a relationship with a
with a girl and she you know doesn't do
this one thing that you think um you
know a relationship should have and then
if you if you bring it up to her she
says well that's not important to me so
I don't care it's like so where do you
go from there you know you either say to
to yourself oh well maybe I just you
know maybe this is just my thing and I
have to deal with it um you know you
swallow your pride and then just like go
without uh or you're just like all right
well now I had to find somebody else so
like there's there's no other real
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podcast how much is the overhead to own
all of these cars it's a lot so the
overhead to to own it's not it's not
just the cars the cars are fine because
the cars are paid for other than the P1
uh so the p1's
about seven seven Grand a month uh Seven
Grand a month Seven Grand a month yeah
how long's the the note for 2 years two
years it's not bad yeah um so yeah it's
not it's not too bad um but overhead on
everything including everything that I
pay uh is about a little over 80 a
month where did that come from yeah that
that doesn't make sense at all okay so
all right kids Let's uh there's got to
be something
snuck unaware all let's talk Finance
okay um so so I have four shops okay uh
four shops with utilities is probably
like 12 uh 12 Grand a month then I have
the house house is about
10 uh house is 10 grand the house is 10
grand where's that coming from that
seems like 10 am I wrong you mean where
is that coming from it's a pretty big
house well okay I no no no okay now I'm
thinking about the utilities well yeah
utilities the landscaping and the pool
maintenance and all that cuz it's a
large house with a lot of things but
iage that's the mortgage I was going to
say that I didn't imagine the mortgage
to be that big but I guess no the the
mortgage is pretty big yeah um so what
you put down I think I put
down
15% something like that is it sounding
yeah right to you it it just depends on
the interest rate what what rate did you
get oh oh you're gonna so I bought this
at the wrong time my interest rate is
like six and a half could be worse could
it could it could be worse worse some
people are out there taking sevens could
be better could be better could be worse
you don't have uh the uh PMI too right
like the private mortgage insurance no
no no you wouldn't have PMI I no not on
15 uh if I if I had put down five then
yeah um so the first house I bought for
$299 I got that at four or something or
like and that was like and that that
wasn't even a good rate back when I got
it but like but that house is paid for
but this house I still owe quite a bit
on it um so that's 10 grand a month but
but then the utilities and all that
stuff that's probably another two Grand
than uh all my all the people that work
here so that's probably
another 45 how many pe oh that's not bad
how many people do you have working with
you four it's not bad yeah so we have
yeah we have four um and then I mean I
have my my alimony child support that
that whatever um but uh and then
whatever we spend on the cars but that
that I don't usually count as a uh
as a recurring charge because it's
different different every time um yeah
but I'd imagine the money you spend on
cars you're getting back anyway in the
value of the car like if you spend
$1,000 on a car you could get sometimes
yeah but I don't ever realize I don't
ever realize that cost because I never
sell my cars it's a problem when's the
last time you sold a car I don't know
when's the last I give I give these cars
away what how what do you mean you don't
know the last time you sold a car how
many cars do you have I have like 30
cars yeah I don't know when the last
time I sold a car is and you just give
them away yeah sell them no I cuz they
cuz they don't owe me anything they like
literally if I if I went and took any of
these cars and and lit them on fire in
the middle of the street it it would it
would be it' be a wash for me so it's it
it doesn't matter to me like I think for
me the only thing that matters is the
story how much am I going to pay for the
story and how much is the story Worth
right so um if I true
Enthusiast well thank you um but if I
like that Porche 911 Turbo I ended up um
I think I'm in that car probably 15
grand
uh just because I traded I I bought a
Bentley Continental GT for 11 Grand put
it like a few grand into it and then I
traded it for that and that car is
probably worth 75 but since the car owes
me 15 and I I think I put another I
think I put another seven into it so car
owes me probably like 20 or something
car owes me 20 but I I have a really
good friend that would really appreciate
that car and I feel like for the story
that you know I could put on a YouTube
video that has a sponsor on it why not
just give that car away and then that
could be you know wow what would it take
for me to become a really good friend of
yours hey man you know I like your hair
you know yeah yeah I like I like you
know you got all dolled up today it's
it's wonderful you're wearing blue which
I have a lot of blue cars yeah so which
you know what I'm going to give you the
keys which which which one do you want
uh I guess I'll take that one right over
there okay you know what you can you can
you're not a friend anymore man a real
friend in that cor a real friend would
have said the Supra so well the Supra is
not that's that's Rex's Supra we
actually gave that to him okay um so we
uh we ended up uh building that over two
years and uh brought that to SEMA and
right before SEMA we gave that to Rex
wow it's interesting you were walking us
through your warehouses and you were
like oh yeah this car I'm giving it to
this person this car I already gave it
to this person like holy mackerel that
is I think um so cars are a very Human
Experience I mean we're just talking
about relationships and stuff but like
uh all these things are very human
experiences um you have your first kiss
in a car you bring your baby home in a
car um it's you know you have your first
road trip and you have experiences like
that and the metal doesn't really matter
but it's it's all the um it's all the
experiences and and the love and the and
the pain and the anguish or what
whatever like the the emotions that we
put into these things and they're
imperfect you know they they they have
personalities of their own it's a very
human thing so if I can give somebody a
car um that that I know they'll
appreciate you know because um they
either need it or like this will change
their life in some way then you know
let's let's do it what are the logistics
of owning so many cars like for
insurance maintenance filling them up
with gas making sure they're running
registration that's a well what's easy
in in Florida is that your registrations
are done online and then you just get a
you know every two years or something
like that because I I try to do two or
three years uh recurring um so every two
years I get just a little slip that says
you need to uh have a new registration
uh for this car and uh yeah that's
that's about it it's like 40 bucks to
register a car uh to re-register a car
you're still getting like three of them
a month yeah uh so they I used they they
hit around the same time so they're all
like at the end of the year uh so around
the end of the year I have to pay I
don't know like a few grand or something
just in registration which is not
terrible uh insurance it's all on
autopay and it's all through Grundy so
it's not not a big deal maintenance
these cars don't get driven a ton and
other than keeping up on tires and oil
changes and stuff there's not really
much you need to do um you know they're
not like 80s super cars where you're
like all right you need an engine out
and all this stuff like they're modern
cars so you can just drive them whenever
and I tried to drive them as much as I
can uh but uh you know some of them just
kind of stay up there you know for for
decoration but uh you know most of them
if I could take them out I'll I'll do it
what car have you lost the most amount
of money on I mean it all depends on
what you mean by lost you know if you
look at sheer money it have to be the P1
because there's no I mean it's $575,000
and looks like that so um I don't
know what that really means because is
it like value in the marketplace you
know like is it it's just like bought
and sold but you don't really sell I
guess yeah so as long as you don't
realize the loss true itch not a loss
until you sell yeah I mean it's not a
crime until you get caught right yeah
there you go well I I don't know I mean
I have a BMW M3 that I bought for $6,000
and we ended up putting like $25,000
into it and I know the car is not worth
that it's like 200,000 Mile like
previous vandalism and it's a car that
does not deserve it we we gave it like
this the craziest treatment we we did
custom interior and paint and carbon
roof and and uh redoing the engine and
all that stuff but like at the end of it
like what's going to be worth it's going
to be worth less than what I put into it
for sure but I also am I going to sell
it maybe I mean it also could be uh like
a giveaway car so you know if we if we
give it away and it's like a vehicle to
move like the merch brand forward or
something then that's I don't really
realize that loss now it's now it's
worth that much more money yeah what's
your least favorite car something you'd
never own that's a good question because
I don't think there is a car that I
would I've owned a lot of really crazy
cars like like crappy cars I think the
only one I'd never own would be
something like really boring something I
don't know like P Cruiser I would I
would absolutely own a py cruiser a p
Cruiser because a py cruiser has
personality it's ugly it's uh it's
striking people look at it just because
it has a personality doesn't mean it's a
good one no it doesn't mean it's a good
one but it's like it's cool it's just
because a person is an you can
still have a you know fun conversation
talking to them once in a while you know
like it
people have an opinion about that car
which is fine the cars that I wouldn't
get are people or are cars that people
don't have really opinions on uh Prius I
like a first gen Prius second gen Prius
so Tommy has I I think Tommy has a my my
cameraman has a first gen Prius and he's
like oh I hate this car and it's uh you
know it's just an old Prius but I'm like
I actually like the the engineering I
like that when you drive it has like a
little CVT and it has a Synergy drive
and you can drive on electric power and
then charges the battery like I I like
all that stuff that's really really cool
to me 2010 Honda Pilot that's not so my
dad almost bought one of those uh and
it's not a bad car I think it's 3.5 V6
andity uh they're okay they're all right
they're they're not they're Mall
crawlers they're not terrible off-road
um but they're again if this is a car
that was like passed down through your
parents or grandparents or whatever and
it's like hey I got the pilot and then
you know you could take all your friends
to the Beach or something that's a cool
car so I mean I don't think there's a
car that I wouldn't buy but like maybe
not for the channel I don't think
anybody would care about a Honda Pilot
build um but you know just for me if I
was like gifted a car I would never be
like Oh I'm too good for that because
I'm not if someone were to flip a car
what are some of the red flags to look
out for okay so you are now asking a
junkie how to stay off drugs okay uh I
don't know the answer to that question
because every red flag is is a green
flag for me I looked at this car that
was you know this P1 that was underwater
and I was like we should do this so um
for most people I think you want to stay
away from things that were you know
saltwater flood uh major fire because um
that would introduce a lot of um
changing of the actual metal of the car
you can't get that back no matter how
much bodyw work you do on the top of it
then you have electrical issues which
which is wiring it all depends on the
amount of skill that you have and the
amount of project that you want so let's
say if we're talking about like a Nissan
Ultima and you want to rebuild it
probably not worth it to get like the
worst Salvage one imaginable but if it's
like a oneof one you know Aston Martin
Valkyrie and it's had some uh some crazy
damage like maybe take that on if you
can because you know this is like worth
saving so it all depends on the on the
project but like if you wanted to flip a
car I mean honestly the best type of
flip that you could do is get a car
that's slightly neglected and slightly
dirty and then all you have to do is
clean it up um do a a nice you know oil
change or service and then just Market
it properly get some good pictures put
it on Bring a trailer or uh or cars and
bids or even Facebook Marketplace and
then you'll make a killing what's going
on with the car market right now do you
do you see it going down in price
because it seems like certain cars are
really holding their value well but a
lot of others I'm saying in insane deals
right now on Facebook Marketplace I saw
a Tesla Model 3
$14,000 for a 2018 Tesla Model 3 yeah
yes what was wrong with it high mileage
how many I don't know like 80 990,000
miles which I don't care these cars are
like bulletproof from my perspective I'm
finding so many of them now under
$20,000 from model 3 Model S's I saw
model S plaid on cars and bids that went
for like 50 Grand was like 44 grand for
a model s that was like 2 years old I'm
thinking to myself this lost 50% in 2
years and the deals are only getting
better the Cyber truck is still losing
$5,000 a week in value yeah because
because it's a cyber truck because I so
um well my friend Rex he just bought a
uh Model S I think it's
2016 and uh it has supercharging has
free supercharging um it's a 90d it's
not a p but uh it had 50,000 miles on it
he bought it for 17 grand that's a lot
of car for 17 grand is that the red one
that we yeah we we drove that here it's
there's nothing wrong with I thought
that could be a 30 40,000 yeah had
autopilot yes 17 grand that's the price
of a Honda Civic the market especially
for for used EVS is hitting the floor
because a few things are happening so
you have the uh the rebates and all that
stuff for for new EVS they're they're
going away uh so new EVS are becoming
you know more expensive ens so people
aren't buying them as much and the
demand is going down I think the
infrastructure is not where it should be
uh in in the states uh and certainly not
in the the rest of the world uh and
people are just sort of getting you know
there's range anxiety can be a thing
honestly I mean if if you can have a
Tesla uh in your house and you can
charge it from your house it's a really
it's not a bad car to have I don't know
where the market is going um I am not a
Tyler Hoover who is uh you know he's
this used car sales and he knows all
about the car market and whatever all I
do is buy what I like and I never look
at the market where it's like oh well
this car is low and this car is high so
maybe I just like you know ride the dip
or whatever like if there's a car and
I'm like hey I can afford that that
looks like it's a good deal I'm GNA I'm
going to get it like I look at what the
other cars in the market are going for
and I go okay that car's cheaper for
what reason there you go what's the best
car to own come on it's like you have to
pick one the kids the kids are listening
um I really really really really really
really like that McLaren 675 LT I think
that car is one of the best driver's
cars ever made uh sounds great looks
great and it's it's very comfortable to
drive um I'm just losing enough weight
that I can sit in the seats without my
legs falling asleep so that's good uh it
has very very um narrow seats but um
that car is also it's it's incred ibly
fast it's like stupid fast but next to
that I would say the Porsche 911 GT3 uh
the GT3 is the best manual driving
experience I've ever had and it's not
even close what makes it so good the car
it has a naturally aspirated
six-cylinder engine and I thought well
it's a naturally aspirated 6 it's
probably not going to have that much
torque you know whatever but this thing
revs like a motorcycle and it revs to
like 9,000 RPM so you have so much
usable range like
you know it's it's crazy and it sounds
like a bike it it sounds incredible it
it's very very Nimble it handles like
like it's this the stupid thing is like
it handles like it's on Rails but like
this this handles like it's it's just
being like like your brain is connected
to the car uh it makes you feel like a
race car driver uh it also has the the
little um rev matching so you know when
you put it back into gear or like you
downshift the gear it automatically goes
into that rev and it it just like stays
there there so you know you don't wear
out the clutch but it also makes you
just feel like you're in a racing car
but you know it's a street car you can
also drive it it has trunk space um it
looks good I mean it's not it's loud but
it's not too loud um and it's a Porsche
so it's small it fits places so I really
really like that I mean for most people
I think a Porsche would be like the best
all arounds if you got like a Porsche
Turbo like a 911 Turbo S uh in automatic
like their pdk I think that would be
like the best allaround car you can get
why does it seem like all these super
cars or hyper cars are becoming SUVs
seems like a lot of these brands are
going in that direction why because they
need to save their brands because those
those those um SUVs are the only cars
that people are buying what happens with
uh these cars is that uh the rich guys
buying the Aventadors um they have wives
that also want flashy cars where they
they can put their Birkin bags so they
go hey we have this Europe
and this is also a performance car but
it's also a SUV and it's going to cost
you
$350,000 and they go okay sign me up for
one of those but also I want an svj
that's honestly what saves a lot of
those companies so you have the Urus you
have the dbx you have the Porsche
Panamera and the Cayenne like those are
really really hot sellers because people
they want all the technology and all the
stuff that goes in yeah the status of
having you know a Lambo or Aston Martin
or a Porsche or whatever um but they
also want like practicality they want to
be able to roll down the tailgate and
put put down some groceries or something
like that yeah when I saw Lotus make an
SUV I knew that that was the direction
they had to go so Lotus I'm surprised
they didn't do that 10 years ago really
uh because Lotus I I don't I don't see
how they have any money left and there's
no British manufacturer that is good at
making money like they just don't U
McLaren I'm fairly certain McLaren's
going to come out with some SUV they
have to because they don't have any
money left does it seem like so many Car
Guys hate Tesla uh because it's EV it's
it's a so the EV thing seemed like it's
foisted upon us as car enthusiasts and
uh you want to have like what's the best
car you know I'll ask you this I'll pose
this question to you what's the best car
experience you've ever had Lotus Elise
Lotus Elise and you know you're in that
car and you are you know rowing through
the gears and you hear the engine behind
you and it's a very visceral experience
and that is like the Pinnacle of car
enthusiasm it's you and the car and it's
everything's very connected um and Tesla
is the antithesis of that is it I have
fun in the Tesla Roadster the one that's
right behind me well the Tesla Roadster
is a is is interesting but it is
different from the Elise because um the
Tesla Roadster is not what most EVS are
most EVS are uh very quiet you can't
hear them like one of the selling points
is oh you can't hear any of engine you
can't feel the engine it's just uh you
know it's very quiet and it's you might
hear a slight hum but that's it um like
the the the quietest the the loudest
thing about the car is the tires so that
in itself loses a bunch of enthusiasts
because they want to hear the engine
they want to feel you know feel the feel
something that there's like a human
element like an animalistic element you
know you want to hear the you know um so
you lose that and then it just becomes
there's no real skill involved it's just
like all right well we're going to put
you in a centrifuge and then you're
going to hold on if you do a a a a
launch in a Tesla Model S plaid and then
you put your foot to the floor and like
there's no there's no skill involved in
that the car tells you all right take
your foot off the brake and then you go
and then all your organs get rearranged
if you're in a car like a Lotus Elise
and you're like I want to launch this
thing and I want to get you know a 0 to
60 in 4 and 1/2 seconds and for that it
takes some skill you have to have like
the right pavement and you're like all
right I'm going to launch it at 3500 RPM
and and then like you're you have a lot
of stuff happening like there's a lot of
stuff happening in your own head so I
think that all gets lost and that's why
people don't really like a EVS because
uh they feel like this future where none
of the stuff that they uh cherished um
as kids none of that's included and they
feel like that's where the the the
entire industry is headed with without
them yeah what do you think some of the
biggest car stereotypes are out there
that are true uh Lamborghini owners uh
being just like these uh these these
weird douchebags um stradman disagreed
he said that Lamborghini owners were
like the nicest
people relatable so some some of them
are relatable there are a lot of
Lamborghini owners that are that can't
wait to tell you about their crypto
portfolio you know like it's it's one of
those things like they they get out of
their car and they have like Lambo gear
on and it's the same thing with a
Ferrari guy the Ferrari guys are are
very particular nowhere near as bad as
the Porsche people Porsche people are
very let's just say on the Spectrum uh
because they will tell you about uh as
Doug deiro calls them leather air vents
and they're paint to sample and oh I got
my allocation from my GT3 BL blah blah
blah you know so like that that sort of
thing is like I have this thing that you
can't have and this is my entire
personality and I'm going to get this
thing in 3 years that you also can't
have and that will be my personality in
three years what about McLaren people
McLaren people are interesting because
there's not they haven't really been a
company for that long and The Stereotype
for McLaren owner it's very similar to a
Lambo owner so I I I know that the lambo
owner is more of a like a selfstarter so
you you'll have more like new money
entrepreneur that sort of thing but like
I think um the lambo owner since that is
an older brand you have people that buy
like a merci Lago or you know an
Aventador or something like that and
then you have people that are like
that's their entire uh personality they
they put everything they have they have
uh you know their entire um wardrobe is
Lambo merch they need to tell you about
their car they put their keys on the
table to to know for you to ask about it
what's it like driving a Lambo um but
McLaren owner is like I don't I don't
think that happens all that much I think
they just like to drive their cars but
then they don't really Drive their cars
that much cuz they break down a lot what
do you think is the most underrated car
underrated car and overrated I would
have to agree with uh with
stradman um I think he said the GT3 RS
or something I think that that's that's
probably it because i' I've driven a GT3
with a with a um an automatic gearbox
and it's just not as good it just isn't
and a GT3 RS is that with an automatic
gearbox and some arrow and and whatever
in any other setting like in a track
yeah I'm sure it's great you know it's
it's great but it just is missing that
one thing that Lotus elisee
quality that you'd want in a car like
that it has just the right amount of
power 500 horsepower and you want that
to be a manual so I think that people
are you know killing themselves over
this car for 400 $500,000 that's kind of
ridiculous and what about the most
underrated car underrated car I would
say I mean I I'll look around and say
probably an Aston Martin DBS like that
that one so it's Aston Martin DBS I'm
I'm biased and it's my money no object
dream car but I love that car because
it's uh I think it's probably one of the
most beautiful Aston Martens they ever
made uh it's also one of the best
sounding I mean mine has an exhaust on
it it sounds like an old F1 car um and
with a manual it's it's really nice it's
uh you know the the shifter is nicely
weighted it doesn't feel like a sports
car but it's a very nice GT car it's
very well appointed it's comfortable so
I think that's and for a car like that
uh that punches above its weight class
uh in terms of fit and finish and all
that stuff I mean you can get one of
those for like 150 now you'd be
hardpressed to find anything like that
for you know 500 yeah what car make
would you say is the most unreliable
something British uh for sure so any I
mean pick any of the British Brands uh
right now Aston Martin is probably okay
because they have a lot of Mercedes
parts in them uh McLaren is fairly
unreliable uh and then I'd say lotus uh
Lotus especially the older lotuses that
they I've never I thought they were
Bulletproof the the craftsmanship is
shoddy but because they use a lot of
Toyota parts Toyota parts are the good
part yeah that's that's the that's
that's the good part um so the the Lotus
part they Lotus are really good
Engineers they can't really put cars
together very very well um and I'm
thinking of like Lotus of like even past
the Elise like the espri like I had two
espr and those were like yeah bad bad um
but McLaren I think Claren issue is that
they have cars that uh kind of punch
above their weight class and sometimes
don't really reach the mark uh in terms
of reliability so the original mp412c
which is the the platform that this
thing uh um started as it was uh you
know they had transmission problems they
had electrical problems they had like a
bunch of these issues that they worked
out throughout the years but then you
know they they kept coming out with uh
car after car after car like every 35
seconds McLaren comes out with another
special car um and it just seems like
they have tons of problems like their
new artura they have tons of issues
because of the V6 and hybrid and all
that stuff what are your thoughts on
whistle and Diesel and Cody if you're
watching this we would love for you to
come on our show Absolutely we've had on
a lot of different car YouTubers we can
come to you wherever whenever we'd
absolutely love it give us a place and
time you'd say would recommend I
absolutely yeah yeah it's it's great uh
they ate all my bananas and uh yeah they
they took all my toothpaste and it's
great I have talked to Cody once um but
I mean I've never met him but I hear
he's a really nice guy uh I love his
videos I really I so I didn't initially
I didn't know anything about him and all
I heard was like negative and I heard
like oh this guy whistling diesel all he
does is like break this break these cars
and blah blah and the thing that I love
about his videos is the storytelling and
he puts so much effort into present
ation and people think that they're
these like these like slap together
videos but he's had like he writes these
things out he writes uh plot lines out
uh there's almost like a story and B
story going on sometime and like just
from a storytelling perspective it's
it's really a master class in uh how to
Market yourself uh and how to um get
people to wait till the end of something
uh so you have like really good
retention and like I'm sure you know he
looks at his metrics but like it's a
it's a it's a fantastic fantastic watch
like any of his videos like any of his
videos from last you know four or five
years have the same sort of formula and
you know it's him uh showing something
with like his very dry humor and it's
very like genen Z so it's like lot lots
of like popping and flashing in your
face but it's not like overly done like
I think Mr Beast is like Mr Beast for
for me I can't watch a Mr Beast video
because I uh I liken it to a a trailer
for a video that doesn't exist it always
feels like it's moving at way too fast a
pace um and with whist and Diesel he
lets things breathe uh sometimes and
there there's like some want and
Destruction for sure but um it it all
goes to serve the story his pacing is
fantastic as I've noticed I watched his
cybertruck video yeah where he would go
from a CM part where he's just talking
like this and instant cut to the
cybertruck just like jumping over
something and then it's back to him just
talking and it keeps you on edge yes I
would say his videos are really one of
the only few that I watch at normal
speed everything else I watch in 2x
really it's hard to watch it in 2x yeah
I tried on the airplane cuz I downloaded
his videos tried watching him 2x I had
to actually go back and just play normal
speed I can't do it I can't I can never
do faster speed on videos because I I
don't I don't know maybe it's the ADHD
or something like that cuz I just start
like I something about um like I get uh
a lot of I guess stimulus from uh from
auditory cues so like for instance I
won't go to sleep if I hear like small
noises so I have to have like big noises
to to kind of cancel them out so I need
to have you know specific uh set of
white noise machines so like if I do 2x
my brain goes this isn't right this
isn't right this isn't right this isn't
right why why why isn't this right and
like it just it just won't turn that off
and I know that I I I can't I can't be
like all right well this is like if I
watch Destiny at 2X or something like
that's I it's just word salad you know
so I'll go like 2.5 3x with the
extension there's a YouTuber video
player extension I didn't know that oh
yeah yeah I'll share it with you after
this video it's incredible but anyways
on Cody I'm curious what do you say to
the people that say he's disrespecting
Vehicles like he did with the Ferrari
when it burned down in the field or with
like the old cars Like the Model T that
he took and destroyed that I mean that's
a that's a piece of History yeah but the
Model T they made 17 million of those
cars who cares I've never seen a Model T
on the road nether have I I thought they
were way rare they're a hundred years
old of course you never seen one on the
road the wheels are made of wood exist
though where where's huh how many exist
still still a lot you can you can find
one for eight grand yeah are you serious
why do I think these were like you
should get no there are historical
vehicles that are worth tens of millions
of dollars and they're in museums right
but a Model T like most of them got uh
got made into hot rods you know like in
the 50s and 60s so you have like the tea
buckets and and stuff like that I did
yeah it's like you can buy a Model T for
not a 10 grand will buy you a really
nice Model T what if you for a series
got a Model T and like turn it into a
McLaren how how does that work I have no
idea but put a Ferrari when you figure
that out then then we can do it that
would be great yeah Ferrari engine Lambo
the car's made out okay the car's made
out of wood dude like I that's the funny
part see what happens yeah just
reinforce it with like a little bit of
something you die see if just see if it
you die that's like all right we're
going to try to run into this brick wall
and see what happens like you you die
like that's that's it you don't need to
figure that out um I mean it would be it
would be interesting but like I that
seems like more of like a Mr Beast type
you know deal taking the old most
Antiquated you know relic of vehicles
and turning it into the most modern
thing yeah I I I guess like what if we
made a model te out of carbon fiber like
okay yeah true oh boy oh like that's we
get tens of views you know um no I I I
don't know to answer your question about
whist and Diesel I don't think anybody
really cares about the you know you're
disrespecting the cars I see a lot of
comments that was a lot of that ha for
the Ferrari one all you get through the
top comments that love it but then you
get a lot of people saying that was A500
$600,000 car not there not their money
who cares like why why people care about
things not saying that that lend you
know you should it Merit because guess
it be the equivalent of let's say you
have a house that you that like in a
housing crisis you get a house you're
like let's burn it down and people are
like that could have you know people
could live in that house or you take oh
somebody somebody would have just a
family of six could have could have
gotten that
Ferrari try I'm just trying to come up
with something 500,000 like you take
food and you just take all this great
food and you just throw it away
like mind
saying that they deserve credit or that
we should you know let we should believe
that right so so what I think is that
those people think that whistle and
Diesel doesn't have a real job and they
think that he doesn't deserve the things
that he has so if you if you base that
on the fact that you know this guy
doesn't deserve these really nice things
and he's just breaking them oh he's just
a kid he's this you know um negative
impact on society meanwhile it's just
entertainment all right this this
Ferrari buron burned in the field did it
hurt anybody no who cares it was a fun
video to make do you think you could
ever take it too far with yeah if
somebody gets hurt yeah for sure okay
but as long as nobody gets hurt yeah I
don't care there's no just permanent
destruction of something absolutely yeah
listen if he wants to take a you know a
McLaren F1 which is my favorite car in
the world if he takes $20 million and he
wants to light that $20 million on fire
and run this McLaren into the wall at
200 miles hour and nobody gets hurt who
am I to say what he can't who can and
can't do you're giving him ideas yeah
yeah great but I I just mean like why
why can't we enjoy this method of
entertainment like where where else are
we going to get this I'm just thinking
how many people would be outraged if you
take the original Back to the Future car
like the actual movie car and just
explode it just blow it up so so like
you're not even running it into anything
just yeah yeah like the hero AC like
yeah but take steal it from the museum
and take a one one car but you buy it
like you buy it but like a a true oneof
one car like a car that won like Le man
or like like you you take a oneon-one
and you just blow it up sure really
upset people yeah yeah I mean you could
you could upset people that like but but
again you know at at what point can you
not do away this is stuff that Ken
Griffin could do he has the money to be
able to just buy whatever and just we
light it on I yeah I guess I mean Mark
Zuckerberg ever enters like an evil era
I could see him just going down that
path well what's the uh that there's
that Lou CK bit where he's like if I
ever become a billionaire I just buy all
the pants and burn them no more pants
you know so you could you could always
do the thing where you take the really
nice thing and destroy it you know the
people that are waiting in line for a
PS5 there's a guy that you know takes a
PS5 and just smashes it in with a
baseball bat in the parking lot and
people are like oh no like but like what
are we lo you haven't lost anything you
you didn't lose your PS5 so who cares
but people think that it's like this
zero some game and then they just attach
their own biases which is this guy
doesn't deserve this because all he does
is make silly YouTube videos and uh I I
actually get this a lot that uh making
YouTube isn't hard work so therefore
it's not a job or like oh well I
actually have to work for a living um
like I don't get get to just like not do
work for um and and make a lot of money
and I always think about those people
and I go why are like it seems like
you're an idiot then because if there's
a meth of like making a lot of money but
you're not working why don't you just do
that why don't you just do that see like
it seems like that's what you think I'm
doing why don't you just you just do it
you do it yeah obviously it's it's a lot
of hard work as you guys know um and
there's a lot of late nights and a lot
of a lot of sacrifices and a lot of
money spent on really stupid stuff so
the stuff that's been getting to us
recently is the travel with this podcast
we are spending this the overhead on on
this podcast has never been higher and
we're not just saying that to be like oh
wo was us but it's gotten incredbly
expensive the travel can be pretty
brutal and recently we had a trip where
we were like what three states or
something like that and I got back and I
got the worst
fitis that turned into like sinusitis
and I was sick and out for a week
straight because of like overnight
flights or whatever and you know all of
the the crowd strike stuff that happened
all our flights got we were traveling in
the middle of that crowd got into the
hotel at like 1:00 a.m. the systems went
down waited there for an hour
East Coast time after so it was s i it
can be bral yes we are abely blessed
shout out our sponsors we are absolutely
blessed but it can be challenging quite
challenging yeah trying to battle that
being gone from home not everyone's
designed for that I'm a home body I love
staying home yeah me too uh so for me
travel I get I don't want to say I get
like anxious leading up to it but in my
mind mentally I'm like okay one week
we're going to be joh I got to catch up
I got to get all these things done
before we go and then once I'm here I
enjoy it but it's always leading up to
that I'm like there's a lot of stuff we
don't talk about I mean in our last trip
we our flight was delayed and we had to
make it but it was delayed so we didn't
know it was going to go what was going
to happen so we drove across the state
of right yeah we don't talk about this
stuff we drove across the entire State
uh to film an episode for you guys that
was the funnest part of the entire trip
it was canceling our flight getting a
car and driving across the state in the
middle of a storm oh where it was like
lightning and rain so much rain by the
way that everyone was slowing down on
the freeway to like 20 miles an hour
with their hazards
on fun yeah but it was awesome yeah well
you guys are going to have to um travel
again I have an event uh in December
that I would love for you guys to uh
attend I know you guys are you guys are
car guys uh it's a car event it's called
wrench works it's going to be December
6th through 8th um it's a sorry the plug
here but I just wanted to let everybody
know um that uh yeah we're going to be
at circuit Florida it's in arundale
Florida it's a it's like this uh
racetrack where you know we're going to
be taking all my cars you know the cars
you see behind you we're taking a bunch
of other YouTubers and uh a bunch of
people that have been on your podcast
will be there
chrisfix yeah shme and uh yeah hi guys
I'm sh hi guys I'm shme and today we're
going to be and today yeah yeah he's
he's a Tim's so yeah we're going to
we're going to do that and uh we hope to
uh to see you guys there yeah we'll have
like a little podcasting uh you know set
up there so yeah be really cool what's
your biggest insecurity oh my God yeah
let's that's ack all right all right I
I'll I'll uh I'll do a quick 35 minutes
um so uh my biggest
insecurity uh is letting people down um
like I I don't I never never never want
to let people down um and if it's uh
it's allowed people to take advantage of
me and I know that it it drives me to a
certain you know there's a lot of guilt
involved but I always feel like the
level of success that I have is never um
number One never enough but it's it's
also not um not earned um like I got
here uh through like ill gotten gains or
or just just sort of like skated through
and uh at some point you know the cops
are going to come and tell me that I
have to stop so it's like imposter
syndrome so that's that's my biggest
insecurity mine recently is that I've
been afraid that I've peaked because
things have been so good that I'm
wondering could I ever surpass that
that's been my biggest thing and then
wondering is the best behind me I don't
know I tend to think about things like
if I died today or if I died tomorrow
would I be happy with the things that
I've done and I I feel like I've done so
much that I feel like it's that's that's
good for a lifetime um now there are
certainly things that I I haven't done
that I want to uh you know accomplish
but it's just you know I I the the peing
thing it h it has to happen at some
point if it's right now that's fine if
it was three years ago that's fine too
so I'm going to do this thing till the
wheels fall off um and if I ever think
about oh am I am I relevant or like am I
like that that's when you start getting
a little bit like ego driven um and
everybody has ego but I I I for me it's
just like that that just seems seems a
little icky like it seems Seems off like
I shouldn't be having those those
emotions where do you invest your money
where do I invest my money we Haven we
haven't talked about any investment I
don't invest my money anywhere um like I
I need to I need to do more Investments
for sure um and I would love to talk to
you about uh you know where where to do
that and and whatnot you gave me a good
some good advice about uh the credit
card so I never had a credit card I
never really did anything with a credit
card but then you gave me uh good name
of a credit card I got it and and uh now
yeah I get I get points for stuff wasn't
Financial advice oh that's definitely
not Financial advice but for credit
cards you your your spend is at such a
level where you could get free trips
anywhere in the world with credit card
points yeah so I would recommend looking
over it every eight months or so getting
a new card okay there are so many great
sign up bonuses right now that you could
get two to three grand worth of free
travel okay for 5 minutes work cool yeah
so works for me um but as far as
Investments uh I'm I've been looking
into real estate and the usual like
mutual funds and stuff like that I I'm
I'm super boring when it comes to stuff
like that I I would never like day trade
or I don't have any crypto uh because I
just don't know enough about those
things um so I mean if you have any you
know index funds index F honestly I
would I would probably just take a
portion of your income every month Index
Fund it long term and that's it MH and
then the index fund is is is what what
do that was that you just do a total
market index fund you get a little bit
of everything 500 or something S&P yeah
but that's just us-based historically
that's done well but it doesn't mean
it's going to do well in the future and
year-over Year we're like 8% or
something give or take okay some years
some decades it's as low as three to
four some decades as high as 15%
somewhere around there that's it all
right but otherwise I mean it seems like
you're doing well enough just buying
McLarens buying really dilapidated
crashed cars fixing them up doing well
on your channel and you'll see a higher
Roi doing that than I think just about
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