Support Group for Regretful Trump Voters Keeps Getting Trolled

Now I understand how somebody like Adolf Hitler was able to brainwash millions of people. I never thought I'd see that again in my lifetime, but but it's happened, right? I thought we got past that, but we don't learn from history. >> The C-SPAN caller that you just heard from, believe it or not, is a Republican who voted for Donald Trump. So, it's interesting to hear someone like him say that we should learn from history because had he taken his own advice before he cast his vote, he wouldn't feel like a gigantic [ __ ] right about now. But, he's not alone because as Trump's fuck-ups continue to pile up, there's a growing number of regretful Trump voters coming to the conclusion that they've been misled. Now, are these people having a sudden change of heart because they're reacting in horror to atrocities that this regime is committing at home and abroad? Well, of course not. Most of them only turned on Trump because he did something that negatively affected them. And aside from sheer stupidity, Rich Logis, the founder of the Leaving MAGA support group, contends that these people became engrossed in the MAGA cult in part because it provided them with a community and gave them a sense of belonging. And with his ex-MAGA support group, he's trying to offer these adult babies a path out of MAGA with a different kind of community which empowers them to share their stories and helps them to reconnect with their families. And even though a lot of people really seem to value what Rich Logis is doing, its own members have to constantly remind each other that it's not very helpful to talk down to people who recently left the MAGA cult. For example, if you go to their Facebook page, which has more than 70,000 community members, you'll occasionally stumble across posts like this where someone argues, "We need to give those leaving that extreme movement a soft landing place. Verbally hammering on them and chastising them like they are children is extremely counterproductive. When they leave the movement, when they admit they were wrong for being in the movement, and they are contrite, they do not need to be given a hard time. We do not want to drive them back over there. We do not need to demonize them. People deserve a clean shot at redemption. Now, that does seem to be the prevailing sentiment among most of the people in this community, but others have pushed back arguing that we shouldn't have to coddle grown adults. And I mean, if you think that there's a chance that we could possibly drive them back into the arms of MAGA in the first place just by being mean to them, that kind of demonstrates that the underlying stupidity and petulance that made them Trump supporters in the first place, that that made this monster palatable to them in the first place, is still a problem, right? [clears throat] And it's only a matter of time until they join some different political cult or support a Republican equally as evil as Donald Trump if they haven't actually understood the underlying causes that drove them into this cult. Now, that's not to say that you shouldn't try to create a pipeline back to sanity for these people. I actually think that this effort is really commendable by Rich Logis. But, I don't begrudge anyone who doesn't have any sympathy for these people because I certainly don't if that if that wasn't already obvious to you. And if you dive into some of these other ex-MAGA groups, which aren't directly affiliated with Rich Logis's, you'll see that a lot of people feel the same exact way. This posted in one of them, which reads, "For all of the people who are leaving MAGA saying, 'We didn't know it would be this bad. He deceived us.' Um, no, he didn't. He was pretty clear. You just didn't care until it affected you." And the reaction was split. Some people said that divisive posts like this will stop us from uniting, while others chimed in to agree saying, "He told you dumb [ __ ] what he was going to do." But, when they're not being trolled by Democrats, these pages are often being overrun by MAGA trolls as this user points out. And when they're not being infiltrated by MAGA trolls, posts often become fodder for the Leopards Ate My Face subreddit where they'll often share nuggets of stupidity from the Trump support group like this one where someone says that they voted for Trump twice because they were tired of woke culture and cancel culture, but regret not choosing woke because gas is almost $4.30 in Texas. And while I think it's fine for Trump supporters to have a safe space, let's not pretend like it's going to lead to some mass rehabilitation because it won't. These people don't need a support group, they need therapy and education. I say that because a lot of the people in these groups, they're still Republicans. And they make that something that's pretty known about them. They're just anti-Trump Republicans now who are still very much cruel, albeit less open about it. And the fundamental issue with these people is that they're not confronting the root cause that made them Trump supporters as I talked about earlier. They're not challenging the underlying belief system that made them prime targets for a fascist demagogue. And part of the reason why you see a general lack of sympathy towards these kind of people is because they destroyed this [ __ ] country. So, it feels like them becoming social pariahs and being rejected by their families is the only real accountability that they're ever going to face. So, it feels unjust to just welcome them back with a hug and a support group when they never actually showed any real contrition, contrary to what some users will say. And I'll be frank, these are modern-day Nazis. They're modern-day Nazis who empowered modern-day Hitler. And by the time Trump's term is up, he'll be responsible for the deaths of millions of people. The USAID cuts alone have been catastrophic for the most vulnerable people around the globe. And if society babies these people, they're going to think that we'll just forgive them again in the event their selfishness and racism rears its ugly head in the future and gets us into another predicament where we're [ __ ] as a country. If we can't unfuck our current situation thanks to them. And if you go back to that C-SPAN caller that we heard from at the start of this video who cited Hitler, just listen to his answer when he's asked what was the straw that broke the camel's back. Just get a load of this [ __ ] >> He's the worst president we've ever had and he's the most corrupt president we've ever had. I know it's hard. It took me a while to be able to say that. Very difficult when you commit yourself to believing in somebody. >> Mhm. Thomas, if you don't mind me interjecting, did you vote for Trump uh all three times in 2016, 2020, 2024? >> Yes. I wanted to vote I considered a third party and I considered even a Democrat, but I did in the end vote for him, but >> And what do you feel That's really interesting. What do you feel or what was the the straw that broke the camel's back this time around? Was it the war? >> Well, I don't think it's one thing. It's been a cumulative process. Um and it's it's gotten so blatant now and he's just literally the things he's you know, he's going to lower prices on day one. He was going to do this on day one. Only he could fix all this stuff. >> And there it is. Trump was going to lower prices and since his policies directly caused prices to go up, well, after voting for him not once, not twice, but three times, now he's out and he finally understands how Hitler came to power and says that we need to learn from history. But my brother in Christ, you voted for him after he tried to overthrow the US government. He is openly authoritarian. He didn't hide that. He ran on mass deportation and explicitly fascistic policy. The only way he could have been more clear was if he actually called himself Hitler 2.0 literally. So, what this tells me is that it's not just stupidity that fueled the rise of Donald Trump. His supporters are just bad people, full stop. Because if you're smart enough to connect the dots and compare Donald Trump to Hitler, something tells me that you didn't just become sentient all of a sudden once the spell broke. You knew that he was Hitlerian. You knew that he was a fascist, but you chose to look past it because you thought that Hitler, too, would be good for your pocketbook. Just admit that. And listen, I'm willing to admit that it's probably not very helpful for me from a strategic standpoint to beat these people over the heads, metaphorically speaking, but I can't not feel scorned because they've pushed the country to the point of no return, beyond the point of no return. As optimistic as I am about all of the progressive electoral victories that we've seen this year, I'm still not entirely sure that we can fix the country or that democracy can be restored, if I'm being honest. What they did is so beyond the pale that I can't not hate them even after they admit that they're wrong. Because nine times out of 10, they only apologize once they're personally affected by one of his policies. I mean, he ran on mass deportation. They literally voted affirmatively to destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of hardworking people, but they only chose to draw a line in the sand once they got a small little taste of the terrorism that they unleashed on everyone else. I mean, these people epitomize selfishness. They violated the golden rule. They're not just suddenly going to develop the capacity for empathy if they turn on Donald Trump only after they themselves got [ __ ] over by him. That's not the way this works. And by now, we've gotten story after story after story about regretful Trump voters and why they chose to finally abandon the cult. And a common theme throughout all of them is that they only came to their senses once his policies were no longer only hurting people of color. I mean, how many times do we have to see the same story until we realize, "Okay, these people, they're just selfish pieces of shit." Case in point. >> But in January, several Ohio factories announced plans to close, including a Conselmar instrument plant in Eastlake, which is near Cleveland. The plant's billionaire owner, John Paulson, a close ally of President Trump, is sending all those jobs to China. Annette Dubrosky is a three-time Trump voter and a janitor at that Eastlake plant. At the end of this month, she will now be out of a job. MSNBC reporter Alex Tabott sat down with her at her home last week, asked her about being laid off, and whether she thinks President Trump understands what she is going through. >> I actually have panic attacks. I I've had a couple this past week. Um and I get very emotional over it. Um I don't want to work anymore, but I can't afford to retire. >> Obviously, President Trump is immensely wealthy, has been wealthy since he was born. >> Yeah. >> Do you think he understands >> No. No. He hasn't lived it to understand it. He sees it, he has not lived it. He needs to live it. Wear the clothes, wear the shoes. Wear your Walmart clothes, wear your Walmart shoes. Do your thrift thrift store shopping. Don't eat steaks. I don't get to go out to dinner. It's not an overnight thing. But it's been 2 years now. You said you'd bring down the grocery prices. Literally, I must be the most angry person when I grocery shop because I buy the same things every week, and I see it jump every week. It is not every couple months. It's literally every week. >> So, it's not mass deportation or Donald Trump mass murdering little girls in Iran that made her turn on him. It's the fact that groceries are getting more expensive. Yeah, sounds about right. Trump could nuke an entire country and kill millions of people in an instant, and I guarantee this lady still would enthusiastically support him so long as he brought down grocery store prices. We all know that this is the case because these people are unable to put themselves in anyone else's shoes. She couldn't care less about a Haitian immigrant losing their temporary protected status who's forced to wear an ankle monitor like a [ __ ] criminal even though they work as hard as she does. In her life, she's the main character and nothing matters more than numero uno, right? If you gave her a button and told her that pressing it would make groceries cheaper, but 100 immigrants would die like that, she'd press that [ __ ] button without hesitation. And we all know millions of Americans would make that same selfish choice because that's the country that we live in. We've been taught that selfishness is a virtue because that's what capitalism incentivizes. And now we have an entire society of people who don't give a [ __ ] about anybody else but themselves. And small business tyrants are no different to be clear. They also only regretted their votes after Trump's deportation affected their bottom lines. Watch this video. >> I did vote for Mr. Trump. Deporting the criminals is a great policy. Foundations are poured ready to go and we can't even start the construction on them. But we voted for the American dream and unfortunately right now we're not seeing that. [music] >> For months, federal agents have been sweeping up workers at construction sites in South Texas. >> ICE has raided us anywhere between 10 to 15 times throughout different subdivisions. >> Now, work sites across the Rio Grande Valley have ground to a halt. And that's got some Trump supporters in this midterm battleground changing their minds. >> These people would just show up to our job sites with no warrants, taking all our workers, even the workers with proper documentation. >> Many who work in the construction industry here told us they largely rely on immigrant workers, some of whom are undocumented. >> I've supported Mr. Trump in every election that he's been a part of. We just never thought that this would come and affect us in the construction industry, but most importantly affect our economy here in South Texas. >> We are seeing a reduction of almost a 60% of our volume on the residential side of our business. We applied for bankruptcy in December. >> We saw a drop in sales of about 5.3 million dollars. >> Oh gosh, golly, we never thought that this would affect us. Really? You didn't? Is it that shocking to think that mass deportation would take a toll on a workforce that you have that consists largely of immigrants? Is this really shocking to you? But if you listen carefully to their complaints, they don't seem to be bothered by the fact that the lives of their workers were just destroyed. They couldn't care less about them being racially profiled and stripped of their civil liberties and brutalized by ICE thugs. They have zero concern for the well-being of the human beings that they employed. They're only mad because their workers who are getting deported is costing them money. That's why they're mad. They don't care about the lives that are being destroyed. They're expendable to these people. They have no compassion whatsoever for their workers who made them as successful as they are. And this is a very very common theme among small business tyrants who supported Donald Trump. >> I voted for Donald Trump. >> The Chef Creole restaurant in Miami's Little Haiti neighborhood is typically bustling with customers. Not today. >> People are scared. >> Owner Wilkinson Sejour says it's not just the clientele. After 34 years in business, he's lost his entire management team at seven locations and will likely have to shut down two stores due to the end of temporary protected status. >> The end of TPS means for me that my future in the hospitality business is almost going to be non-existent. >> On Sunday, federal officers made an immigration arrest outside one of his restaurants. >> What would you say to the president that you voted for? >> He sold to me that he is a businessman and that he will be making business decisions. >> Do you regret your vote? >> Yes, I do. >> The audacity of this man to get on camera and say the end of TPS means for me that my future in the hospitality business is almost going to be non-existent. Again, zero concern for his employees whose lives were ruined by the president that he voted for. And this is a microcosm of a broader issue with brainwashed Americans. We've been conditioned to value profits over people. Our entire society has been lobotomized by capitalism. Think about it. We didn't even make it two [ __ ] weeks into the pandemic and then Republicans were already recommending that we reopen everything up and sacrifice the lives of disabled people and old people to spare the economy. That's ridiculous. Whenever we talk about Medicare for all, we have to pitch it as some sort of cost-saving initiative, which is true, but we have to sell it as it's going to be a small tax cut for businesses in order to get people to support it when the real selling point is actually that it's going to save 114,000 lives per year. It is outrageous that that fact alone doesn't convince people to support Medicare for all. We have to say, "Oh, we'll think of the money you'll save." I don't give a [ __ ] about the money. I care about the lives. Yes, that's great. I'm glad we're all going to save money, but aren't the lives more precious? Another example, whenever we talk about war, we always frame it as if it's something that's being done to us, as if we're the ones getting bombs dropped on our [ __ ] heads, or if we oppose it, we oppose it on grounds that it doesn't yield an economic benefit for us. Case in point. >> I'm a waiter at a local restaurant in Queens, a full-time college student who sleeps an average of 4 hours a night and is still thousands in debt. How is a war in a country half the world away, funded by the taxes pulled from my check, helping me in any way? >> Now, to be clear, I don't blame that kid. He's a product of his environment, but he's parroting a common talking point people opposed to war use. And the only reason why people opposed to war have to frame it this way is because they know how [ __ ] selfish Americans are. And the problem with this line of thinking is that it implies that war would be good if we perceived some sort of economic benefit from it. But, we should oppose war because life is precious. But again, in a late-stage capitalist society, our priorities are completely ass-backwards. We value money above everything else. We're literally letting just a couple hundred multinational corporations destroy our entire planet for short-term profits. It doesn't matter that you can't really make any profits or have an economy, for that matter, without a livable planet. Doesn't matter. All that matters is that the line continues to go up year after year, so that way shareholders to these corporations are happy. We've set up an economy that is sentencing our entire species to death. Yet, we're supposed to pretend like capitalism is the best thing since sliced bread. And the same people who say this have the audacity to call socialists crazy. They're the ones who are in the death cult, but I mean, I'm kind of going on a tangent here. To get back to regretful Trump supporters, you're starting to really notice a pattern just with the few videos that I've showed you. Me, me, me, me, me. I don't think any of the people that we've heard from would have flipped if they weren't feeling economic anxiety, if I'm being honest. And they never seem to sense that Trump's a con man at all until they get scammed by him themselves. And I love these examples in particular. >> Trump supporter here. This goes out to Don Jr. and Eric. WHERE THE [ __ ] MY PHONES? I ORDERED THREE, NO, four gold Trump phones in the summer. Told they're going to be THE BEST. TALKED MY SON INTO ordering some. We heard they're going to come out in September. YEAH, WE CAN [ __ ] WAIT. September rolls around. No, it's going to be November. November, no, it's going to be the end of the year. They actually stopped taking orders for them in November. Now we CAN'T GET ANY [ __ ] UPDATES ON THEM. GIVE ME MY [ __ ] PHONES OR GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK. >> I liked it cuz it's similar to a Rolex band. >> Showing support for the president and love for his wife. >> Just thought it was really nice. It was beautiful. And I knew it would be something that she'd like. >> A limited edition. >> One of 250. So that attracted me. >> And Tim Pettit shelled out $640 for a watch that may now be even more of a one-of-a-kind than he bargained for. >> Get your Trump watch right now. Go to gettrumpwatches.com. It's Trump time. [music] >> Tim Pettit bought the watch after hearing an ad like that one on the radio. >> With the president's voice hawking the the watches and I was curious, so I went onto the website. >> gettrumpwatches.com. Pettit picked out the pink inauguration first lady model. >> It has a pink and it has little fireworks on it. >> Melanie Pettit likes the style, but it's what this watch does not have that makes it stand out. >> I noticed it right away. The T is missing. It just says RUMP. >> So it should say Trump. >> Should say Trump. >> Instead. >> It says RUMP. >> She has a $640 RUMP watch. >> How could they process this and and go through something without checking their work? >> I'm very disappointed. I wanted to be a special thing for her. And we had expected that it would have the integrity of the president of the United States. >> Sir, get a hold of me because I have some magical beans to sell you that would be a wonderful anniversary gift for your wife, much better than the Trump watch, and I'll only charge you 500 bucks for them, too. So, it's a good deal. Listen, to be honest, [snorts] I don't know if those people flipped on Donald Trump, but it is objectively hilarious, I think, to see their surprised Pikachu faces when the con man that they support has scammed thousands of people throughout his life, including the United States government. Like, it's an open secret that Trump is a [ __ ] con man. So, if you willingly spend your hard-earned money on any of the [ __ ] that he's talking, you kind of deserve to be scammed, low-key. It is basic common sense. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. But, I do want to play one last video for you of a Trump supporting husband whose immigrant wife was abducted by the ICE Gestapo. This is a fairly common archetype of regretful Trump voters, and it's always so odd to me that they never considered how their votes would affect the people that they love. But, unfortunately, none of them are ever going to learn their lesson until it's too late, and that's assuming they're able to learn a lesson at all if their brain isn't too far gone. Nonetheless, let's listen. >> John Gannon is a 75-year-old businessman and lifelong Republican who supported President Trump in 2024. >> I wouldn't do that again, not after this fiasco. >> His fiance, 45-year-old Venezuelan immigrant Yasmin Suarez Reges, was detained by ICE at George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston in late July. >> Eight ICE agents swarmed Jasmine, and detained her, didn't tell us why, and rustled her off into a car. >> When you saw that unfold, what went through your mind? >> Well, I was just in total disbelief. >> According to her immigration lawyer, Suarez Reges came to the US legally in 2023 and later applied for asylum, a case that is still ongoing, but her underlying permission to be in the US has lapsed. >> Some people may say this is what mass deportations look like. >> They're not They're not going after the hard guys. That's too difficult. It's easier to pick them up at the airport. You know, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. >> So, what is it Jasmine was arrested as part of a recent crackdown by ICE at airports across the country? >> ICE is here. Help us. >> Back in Texas, Gannon says he deeply misses his fiance, who remains in ICE custody facing deportation. >> Jasmine's good as gold. Love Jasmine. That's it. >> And he deserves to live with that guilt for the rest of his life because he was fine with it happening to other people, but he never expected it to happen to somebody that he loves, which is stupid because mass deportation means everyone. It's literally in the title. But again, we're dealing with emotionally stunted adults who believe that the world actually does revolve around them. These people never expected their actions to catch up with them, and when it finally happens, they cry victim even if their victimization was self-inflicted or a result of their own stupidity. And I wonder if that guy ever thought about the other immigrants just like his girlfriend and what they're going through right now. How their families are feeling. I wonder if he'd ever think twice about voting for Trump again if she wasn't targeted at all. I mean, we all know the answer to that question, and I just don't know how we can live in a society with people this [ __ ] selfish. It's exhausting. You can hear the exasperation in my voice. So, to loop back to the conversation we were having about the ex-MAGA group and the general lack of sympathy towards Trump supporters, towards ex-Trump supporters in particular, I think that people feel the way that they do because we're all just so tired at this point. Even when Trump is out of the picture, it's not going to change the fact that a substantial portion of the American population they're just adult babies. In voting for Trump three times, they showed us that the problem goes so much deeper than Donald Trump. It's not just a bad thing they did. It speaks to a character defect. It speaks to their morality. It doesn't matter if they voted for him for economic reasons. That doesn't matter. If you could overlook mass deportation and explicit discrimination against vulnerable people, you are a shitty [ __ ] person. So, if you're a regretful Trump voter who happens to stumble upon this video, you shouldn't be surprised that the rest of us don't pity you because you've worn us out. And you kind of deserve to get a small taste of your own medicine if I'm being honest. >> The humanist report is fake news. Mike only cares about crazy Bernie and his wacky socialist [music] ideas, said Versed. I'm unsubscribing. >> [music]