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Hello people, big news. I'm on tour in Australia, but I couldn't wait to share the brand new studio and a brand new episode style with you. There's no rules, no structure, it's just me hanging out and I'm bringing some friends with me. Enjoy the episode. See you. What's that thing? There's a thing that people have where they hate the sound of like misophonia. I have it real bad. No way. >> Dude, if I hear you eat cereal next to me, I'll try to break your neck. But it's the worst. >> women have this? Excuse me? Every woman I've ever like dated has How the [ __ ] again? Uh, I saw this video of some guy that's got one of those big tubes and it makes a So that kills you. But >> It's worse, dude, like like when people do the mukbangs with their microphones. Oh. The visceral rage. Like I You know, that they're eating into a [ __ ] JBL microphone? You know who the [ __ ] guy that sniped up everyone? That's crazy. Who was the the king mukbanger that sniped up everyone? >> Oh, Nikocado Avocado. >> Yes, thank you. Then he died? No, he lost like 200 lbs. all of the weight. Oh, really? Yeah, he He's like the inverse Joey Chestnut. Yeah. Well, he ballooned. >> Yeah. >> And then came back and then undid it. >> Why? Yeah. But he got like peak fat and then had peak views on that one video of like Yeah. And then >> happened to my life. And then he [ __ ] did the reveal. Wow. But he was losing weight the whole time so the videos were old and he was like crashing out and crying and obese and then all of a sudden he just shows up 200 lbs lighter and he's like, "Hello. I have changed." It was the weirdest [ __ ] video ever. Really like hairs on the back of your neck. This guy's maybe a psychopath standing up type. Like they cloned him or something. >> It was crazy. It was [ __ ] wild. All right. What do you got? I want to hop straight in? I do. Okay. me >> you've got. Um, let me I'll tell see you. I'll give a story. Let me tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time. You have my interest. Okay. So, it's picture this. We're going to go back to 1970s, Surrey, uh, in England. There's like a beautiful old farmhouse called Oldcroft. And a musician who's just moved in. And he's in a band and they just had their first like top 40 song. So, it's at that point in a musician's career where either this is like we're about to take off or we had that like one blip and we're done. And he's just mortgaged like the most insane house for like his wealth size. Like way above his income cuz he's betting on his future success. And he's like this is the childhood sweetheart dream. He met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class. And they got two kids together. So, they've moved into this house together. This beautiful old farmhouse with the two kids. And like he's managed to get the deal on it. So, it's slightly cheaper than he can afford but it's still way too expensive. The whole thing needs a whole paint job. It's like the whole building needs a load of different work. Kind of like this stuff here, right? Um, Shut the front door. >> And so, he uh, he has to go on tour, um, go try and crack America to see if he can pay for this house. So, he's kind of leaving the house. There's painters there that are doing everything up. And he's kind of saying goodbye to his family. And as he's saying goodbye, he doesn't know if this is going to be the last time he sees this house, um, or if this is going to be the new family home. So, he goes on tour for a year. Um, And surprisingly, the tour goes really, really well. So, he's basically going to pay for this mortgage. And at the end of the tour, he's having a phone call with his wife. And it's not going well. And she basically confesses whilst he's been away, she's been having an affair. And like his heart just drops. He's like, "Who?" So, he starts thinking of every single a singer or somebody else in the band. The guy she was having the affair with was the painter. He was paying for the house. So, he like got just loses mind. He ends up flying back from the tour, tries to win her back. The Not only can he not win her back, she basically says, "I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving to Canada." So he sits down the band and he says, "Well, I think the band's over. I've got to go They said, "No remote work." I've got to go I'm going to fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together. So the band said, "Hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus. We'll all go on solo and we'll get back together." So he goes to Canada for 3 months putting it putting the marriage back together. Flies back 3 months later. It's completely failed. And the only place he has to stay is he goes back to this old house. And he says he walks in and he says the paint was still wet with the man who cuckolded me. So he got he can't So he's just fuming. So he leaves, goes to his favorite restaurant, orders a ravioli, and he's just staring at this ravioli. He's starving cuz he's not eaten in days. And this ravioli staring at him, he's staring back at the ravioli. He just can't eat. Goes back to the house. It's just this old derelict house that he's made all this money and paid for, but his family are no longer there. So he starts drinking. He's calling her and she's ignoring his calls in Canada. Starts drinking. He's calling her. And finally he goes, "Well, I've got to start channeling this thing." So he decides he looks at the master bedroom that she slept with the guy who was on his payroll while he's on tour and goes, "Well, you know what? This is going to be my new music studio." So he starts like channeling all the energy that's coming up. And as he's like in the moment, he grabs the invoice from the painting and decorating company that slept with his wife and he writes a song on it, okay? So should I play? I've got it on my phone. I'll play the song. You ready? This is the song that he writes. You're [ __ ] me. So, that's how Phil Collins wrote In the Air Tonight? It's on the invoice of the painter that slept with his wife. And what's interesting What's funny about >> Did you know this story? What's so What's funny about this um this story IS UM NOTHING. THAT'S THE STORY. WE GOT A BANGER OUT of it. But he Well, anyway, so what is he's in this house um or in this new music studio that he's created. He then is in a fugue state, writes Against All Odds, which goes on to win a Grammy. So, he makes that song then Against All Odds the next day. What's interesting about the story, the funny part is um what he makes Against All Odds um obviously becomes a smash hit on the radio. And there's a guy in Manchester who's listening to the song on loop cuz he split up with his partner 5 years ago, his girlfriend 5 years ago. So, he's listening to the song thinking about her. He sees her at a bus station. Um and they end up going out on a date, spend all night till 6:00 a.m. They get back together. Within 6 months we're engaged. They have three children. Second child was me. So, the whole So, the whole thing He He goes, "Yeah. Yeah, with the toothpick. Yeah. Yeah, the second child was me." Are you So, yeah. So, when you So, what's beautiful now when you when you re-listen to that Phil Collins >> Wait, are you Phil Collins' son? >> Yeah, when Did you No. No, no, no. >> Wait, I thought I lost everything. My dad My dad basically loved that song um when he split up with my mom basically. Okay. Okay. And Phil Collins' story That's where you got it No, no, no, NO, NO, NO. YOU KNOW WHICH ROOM THAT WAS? THIS ROOM. THAT'S WHY HE left her. >> a podcast studio. >> Yeah. Okay. Still crazy. So, yeah. But what's crazy is when you re-listen to that song I think that song's incredible anyway. It still holds up 50, 60 years later. But when you now re-picture him in that old master bedroom where it all happened. And the lyrics often when you go back and listen to >> does he say? Is he saying something that's like direct or coded with that? >> a part in there like if you gave me if you was drowning I would not lend a hand. Um and talks about you've been smiling or I wipe that grin off your face. Um it's all about him falling. Doesn't sound like a breakup song on first listen. Well but it is. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Dude, I [ __ ] Yeah, it's such a fantastic one. I What was it that we found out the other day that Dolly Parton wrote uh um two of her [ __ ] biggest Google what two songs did Dolly Parton uh Jolene. Jolene and um [ __ ] like working 9 to 5 or something in the in the same day. She wrote them in the same day. The [ __ ] uh >> that's crazy. Wow. There's a bunch of those examples of the uh these bursts these bursts were like I think the the Beatles famously did this when they recorded like a [ __ ] album in a day or you know they did like they had like this insane burst of their greatest hits in a very short amount of time. >> What was it? Jolene and I Will Always Love You. Yeah. Wow. In the same day uh she mentioned in interviews that she wrote them during the same songwriting session and later joked that was a good writing day. Wow. >> So nonchalant. I think Bobby Darin's Splish Splash was wrote written in 20 minutes or something like that. Have you guys heard the full uh Rocky story the Sylvester Stallone Rocky backstory? No. Oh, this is insane. You know this one? So Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor. And uh you know, but he's got this like birth defect. So when he was born I think the doctors they did something that's why he has that crooked smile. So he had like a medical almost like a malpractice issue when he was born that messed up his face. But he wants to be an actor. He's a talks kind of funny face is kind of funny so he's not getting any roles. Keeps going to casting auditions. No role, no role, no role. So he says, "All right, if I can't get cast it somebody else's movie I'll write my own. So, he goes to his house and again like sort of in that fuse state, he basically does two things. He paints all the windows black. He's like, "I'm not leaving this house. I don't even want to know if it's night or day until I finish the script." He hates writing. So, he's like, "I just got to do this fast cuz I hate writing." So, in 3 days he writes the script for Rocky. And he has And the story of Rocky, which is like this average guy wants to be a boxer, but it's not really happening for him. This is a story of him wanting to be an actor, but he just chose boxing cuz it's more like physical like knockout punch. It's easier for the audience to understand. But, it's his story. And so, then he goes and he pitches the script and people are like, "Actually, this script is pretty good." He's like, "Awesome." And they're like, "We'll buy it." He's like, "Great." He's like, "And I'm Rocky." And they're like, "No, no. You're not Rocky. We'll buy the script, but you're not Rocky." And so, he has an offer I think for a million dollars or something like that, which at the time was a lot of money. And he turns it down. He ends up taking, I think, 25 grand or some ridiculously low amount of money for the script, but he gets to be Rocky. And he's struggling to make ends meet. He literally he's like eating like canned beans. He ends up selling his dog because he can't feed his dog. So, he's like His dog was his only companion in the world. He goes, he sells it to a guy and gets like uh couple hundred bucks for his dog. And then it's just like, "Fuck." He's just literally rock bottom. To film Rocky, he basically films the whole movie on like a million dollar budget, handheld camera, no permits, sneaking into things. They filmed Rocky that way. Okay. Rocky becomes this huge hit. He basically gets this money. He goes and he First thing he does, he goes back and buys back his dog. The guy doesn't want to sell it to him. He's like, "I love this dog." And he ends up paying 25 grand to get his dog back. And then that was basically the the start of Sylvester Stallone's story was this like 3-day bender he had to write the story of Rocky. How insane is that? >> Isn't the guy in in the film as well, like And that was part of the deal. It was like, "I'll give you 25 grand and you get to be a cameo in the movie." And he's in the movie Rocky, the guy. He's like by the liquor store is the guy who he sold his dog to. I didn't know any of that. >> [ __ ] >> know that Sylvester >> Isn't it better than the actual story of Rocky? >> was George. Sylvester Stallone is George's dad. Oh, it does. Yeah, you've got the nose for it. I've got you. That's radius. I've got you, you big forearms. That's true. So, in prep for this episode, when he told me what the the theme was of adult show and tell, I got on X for the first time in I don't know a year. I never use that platform. Goldmine. What the What the hell is Are you about to show us Twitter as the thing you found this You brought I found this beautiful new app. It was bought by a prominent billionaire, I think. No, it I don't know how, but the algorithm was so curated to me despite me not using it because of I think the one-off articles that my friends send me. And one of the articles he sent me was I think I think I've got it in there under GLP-1s nuke the ability to love. Have you guys heard about this? >> I saw this. >> is You guys see this? Super interesting. >> great. >> Okay, so we initially thought GLP-1s, like Ozempic, tirzepatide, and retatrutide, just reduced food cravings. Now we know they work for alcohol, cocaine, gambling, and other addictions, too. But do you know what runs on exactly the same circuit? Falling in love. GLP-1 receptors sit in the exact same brain regions that light up when you're in love. The insane thing about them is that they don't just suppress appetite, they suppress wanting in general, including romantic craving another person. Something like 60 million people are now on anti-desire drugs, and it happened in the blink of an eye. I predict in the coming years, we will see people on these drugs be less able to fall in love. We will also see them fall out of love, or be unable to feel it in relationships that were previously great. If your girlfriend or boyfriend started taking GLPs and your relationship started failing, there's a good chance that's why. This sparked I went back to What was his name? Can you scroll up a bit? Dr. Shin Young Shin Young Yang? Dude, the the bravery of trying to pronounce that just now. >> I I did my best. On air? I think I was pretty good. >> You are the courageous. >> It's just a [ __ ] dice roll. But he said it instantly, you know. >> What is courage but taking action in fear? I think the this I went back to his Twitter today to find this. Holy [ __ ] he created a storm in his mentions of people coming after him for this cuz >> AI? Look at this profile picture. >> Oh. Perhaps. I didn't look that deep. Why does he have a golden throat? He looks like Does he dead? So interesting. He might be after that tweet cuz big farmer got him. No, I'm kidding. >> Running a plastic surgery clinic in Busan, Korea. I bet he is busy as [ __ ] Think about how many Koreans get plastic surgery, dude. I know, it's crazy. Oh, he's just anti So, he's It seems like he's very anti-GLP-1s. He's been hammering this for days and he said that a bunch of physicians that sell GLP-1s came after him because they're shareholders and it's all part of the big scheme, but there's basically I think this is rooted in theory and it makes sense theoretically if it acts on the same dopaminergic pathways, but the very concept of the fact that it doesn't just kill your appetite, it just kills your drive in general. It just gives you the dopamine fill without it doing anything. >> with more stuff than just food, which is pretty interesting. It seems to work on weed, it seems to work on behavioral addictions, alcoholism, gaming. Yeah, gambling. Um so, the fact that like what is limerence? What is attraction? You know, it's the same thing. It's this dropping of serotonin and it's massive increase in epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine. It's just rush, rush, rush, rush, rush. I get very obsessed crush phase. Um there's a really interesting thing that's similar to that, PSSD, post SSRI sexual dysfunction. So, when people are on SSRIs, the sex drive can go down, but if you take them for a long enough period or if you take them especially during puberty and increasingly more young people are getting them prescribed when they young. Uh this can lock in for the rest of time. You can get genital numbing, like the pathways that just allow you to feel what's going on during sex, they get muted. Your drive gets So, there's all of these groups of people who are trying to reignite, re-kickstart their own They're probably the ones that are watching the [ __ ] BDSM porn. They need to escalate. Um but yeah, the between that and hormonal birth control for women driving down their sex drive and making them choose guys that they wouldn't be attracted to if they weren't on it, and GLPs and SSR It is the sex recession is just not a surprise at all. It's just not a surprise. Like if you're having sex, you're in the minority. >> If um uh Kiss Army calls you up and says we're going to make you um chief sex officer. What what do you do to um what do you do to improve the situation? Uh well, you can't pull people off SSRIs because some of them need it. And even if they don't need it, they're going to rebel, so that wouldn't be good. Can't pull people off GLP-1s because that's also going to be pretty bad, and maybe they were going to die soon, too. Uh I think coed spaces, dating should be allowed at work. Obviously, there's always going to be some blast radius of side effects that happen. You're going to get in trouble because there's going to be some guy that doesn't take no for an answer and is blowing through boundaries in the wrong way. But I think a a big part of it is making guys braver, cuz guys were already pretty timid in approaching women. Now, post-MeToo, everyone's terrified. Uh so trying to re-encourage men. I mean, you've heard me do this before, but like the Me Too instruction of men, don't be pushy with women only landed with guys that were already nervous with women. The dudes that were blowing through boundaries and really needed to have the Me Too revolution like hit them, they just didn't take any take took no heed of it. These are advice hyper-responders, right? >> Can you explain that? That's one of my favorite ideas of yours, the advice hyper-responder. It So, advice doesn't land evenly. It it sort of distributes more like alcohol than it does medicine. The people who really need to take it are unchanged while the people that are already overdosing on it take too much. So, think about the advice to just work harder. The lazy person who spends all of the time on the couch, they they're unchanged. They don't even see it apply to them, whereas the person who already believes like they're not working hard enough, that pushes them to work even more. Uh take more responsibility. The the girl who believes that everything is already her fault decides that she needs to bear even more of the burden and carry bags that aren't hers when the person who points the finger elsewhere just again coasts past it unchanged. Uh the instruction for men to open up and be more sensitive, the existing sensitive guys who are already kind of opening their hearts far too much and crying at things that they shouldn't do, they take that as a an indication that they're already emotionally insufficient, whereas the stoic boomer just, you know, no impact at all. So, it's one of the problems with giving blanket coverage advice. It's why on the show and with everything that I write now, I'm so much more hesitant about saying this works for everyone. It's almost always caveated with if this sounds like it applies to you, it probably does. Um but then you've got the advice hyper responder thing, which is maybe just confirms your fears, maybe it uh already pushes you in the direction that you were going previously. So, yeah, it's a it's a difficult world to navigate when there's a lot of What's that the Naval line? Um if you take enough self-advice, take enough uh personal development advice, it all just nets out to zero. It just for every every maxim has an equal I actually think that's useful in a way because when you have two people that you deeply respect that are completely the opposite, you almost go you kind of it's like two things pulling you in that direction, you kind of stay still as a result. Like Like of my favorite stories of all time was um No the it's the greatest tennis match of all time is what it's called and it's Novak Djokovic versus Rafael Nadal. It goes on for five sets. Um I think it's about 7 and 1/2 hours. There's a rain break in between. Um I think Nadal takes the lead, Djokovic takes it back, Nadal takes the lead. There's a tiebreak that's about 70 minutes long. Like one tiebreak is 70 minutes long. They finish the game and I think it's 1:40 a.m. And Djokovic just collapses. And there's a part There's this amazing part in Djokovic's biography where he's talking about discipline. And he's talking about this is what it takes to win. Um and he's describing how in the aftermath of the game, he's sat in the dressing room exhausted and he's not had any sugar cuz he's been so disciplined and so focused cuz this is what it takes. He's not had any sugar in I think it's 3 years leading up to this. So he allows himself like a tab of chocolate on his tongue and he lets it melt. And he says, "I stopped then immediately and I was back preparing for the next tournament." And what I love about this story >> even chew it. He didn't even chew it. Just let it melt. Just let it melt because this is shows you like what it takes. Like the discipline. Meanwhile, Australian Open, 3 years later, Roger Federer wins and he eats ice cream every single night. Yeah. And it's like, "Oh." Like there's Djokovic. There's Federer. And it's not that either of of them were wrong. They kind of just did what worked for them. And that's why I kind of like collecting completely opposite piece of advice. Like So for example, Stephen King wrote his entire novel or all his work just wrote it down. He would just turn up, cup of coffee, stare at a blank screen, make it happen. J.K. Rowling used a spreadsheet for the whole of Harry Potter. So it's just like There's a handwritten spreadsheet I've seen. >> Yeah, there's a handwritten spreadsheet. So there's like just different approaches. And when you get to the top of any craft, you'll notice that you'll have It's same with investing, right? Warren Buffett does almost only invest in things he'll understand, reads everything. And who's the guy who does it all via algorithms? Um Um >> Uh like Jim Simons, like Renaissance Capital. Everything by algorithms. Both billionaires multiple times over. It's really interesting going, "Oh, now I have to pick my own way." Mhm. Well, it's so idiosyncratic, right? Like you don't know you don't know what it is that's going to work for you. >> is the the the way the one thing that they all have in common often is that they have nothing in common is that they kind of done what worked for them. That's the one thing that they actually Sure. I think the underlying principle is compliance. That you have to find something that you can comply to. And that is why it's so idiosyncratic. Like it has to be different because if you can comply to it, you're not going to see the results. Like consistency is super important. So, if Djokovic had tried Nadal's approach or Nadal had tried Federer's approach, that wouldn't have worked by design. Yeah. But wasn't it Djokovic that said, "I just like hitting the ball?" Yeah. That seems like kind of counter to the robotic approach that doesn't seem that fun. Well, that uh my friend Billy has a amazing story about this. He the just like hitting a ball one was when he was he was about to quit. He was like fifth in the world, spoke to his coach, um and gets into the whole I just like hitting the ball, and then he goes on this tear and becomes number one. But the actual like discipline when it came to his diet was um was specific to him, whereas Federer, ice cream every night. Well, I I I had one to show on the advice self-help advice thing. Did you see the Tim Ferriss blog he posted I think today or yesterday? The ouroboros of infinity. >> Yeah, exactly. So, Tim Ferriss, who's like helped a lot of people and been a a big distributor and receiver of self-help, basically writes this post kind of essentially saying got to be careful with self-help. And but but in a pretty personal way. I thought it was kind of an amazing post about like if you go through this loop that the type of person who wants self-help, they want to be happy. And so they try to fix a problem to make make happy. But in order to fix the problem, they're constantly searching and trying to fix problems and goals. >> got nuts. Yeah. The ouroboros has a nut. And so this post is amazing. He's basically just like the the act of of self-improvement um can lead to that that sort of infinite cycle of searching for problems to solve to improve. And then you just sort of get addicted to the medicine in that way. >> How do you solve the infinite problem? Well, he actually says it in this. Basically, he's like there's this uh like you need you need both. If you just have radical acceptance of your situation, you go nowhere and you will ultimately not be happy with your own like lack of progress in life. But if you only chase progress and never take acceptance to either weaknesses, flaws, imperfections in your life and just be able to sit with them, then you'll constantly be moving and trying to make progress to make yourself happy, but you won't be happy ever. And so That's such a Scroll up, Jared. That's such a [ __ ] good line. The older I get, the more I think that self-help can be a trap. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. I say this after around 20 years of writing self-help and a lifetime of consuming it. Bro, this is the [ __ ] Do you know there's two types of pivots that white podcasters make? Bless you. One is the god pivot and the other one The The other one is the renunciation of all of your life's work pivot. Yeah. It's the Turns out I was over-optimizing. Uh the other one is Turns out that I just needed to give it all to Jesus. Those are the only two Pick your direction. So pick your direction, podcast man. That's it. I chose the second one. Hey, I went to youth thing >> I heard. >> night. Teagan told me. Yep. I was What did you think? Uh I was praising, man. I know it's it was it was nice. It's crazy that >> this? The He went to a Tuesday night young adult service at a church at Austin Ridge Church. So you went to the kids thing. >> didn't sneak in. It's permitted up until age 40. So >> Okay. Yeah, you said you said I went to the kids thing. I was like, "Interesting." Well, I mean it Is it wrong? Uh yeah, I I think everyone's our Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't ask for ID, but uh it >> How old are you again? 23? Correct. I'm 35. You were right about what you said, by the way. I loved the I love that line of thought you just brought up about the choosing which works for you in self-development. One of my favorite quotes is from Dr. Stan Efferding, "Compliance is the science." It's the same way that people get jacked in the gym doing Mike Mentzer's low-volume approach versus someone going to the gym 6 days a week and doing 20 sets. If they just don't stop, they're going to get jacked. The only thing The only path to success is the one you just don't leave. >> Find the one that you enjoy. Find the one that you enjoy. So, this is interesting. This is another I I'll never get off X. What have I been missing? This is This is exactly like must have been how my dad felt when he discovered Facebook Reels. And then I was like, "Why is Dad still in the bathroom 45 minutes later?" He's laughing at some [ __ ] meme. It's so funny. AI banned from answering legal and health care questions. This is very interesting. I don't I don't know what truth or validity there is to this because this is on X, but breaking, New York bill would ban AI from answering questions related to medicine, law, dentistry, nursing, psychology, social work, engineering, and more. And so, there's this narrative of I wish I had the uh I had someone who captured the quote and basically said something where now we've gotten to the point where you can get for free what the experts were charging $400 an hour for, and suddenly it's restricted and controlled upon. I don't know where the breadth and depth of this regulation and this bill will go, but it's an interesting thought that now readily available information is completely free or at most what, $10 a month for for Claude or ChatGPT? ChatGPT. >> And now suddenly there's this bill that was like, "Hold on." And it's some with someone commented like, "WebMD WebMD's been giving people dog [ __ ] advice for 25 years now, and they didn't ever get banned. Why is this suddenly an issue?" >> Do you think it's because it's kind of personified? It feels like a person's giving it to you. I mean, you'll have done this before that your AI gets it wrong and then you start like shouting at it. You try and discipline it. How could you have done that? You're like, "Okay, I just need to You never did that with Google. Right. You never said to Google, how could you have done this?" I think it's because it feels like you're talking to another human. >> The first thing now I always recommend is kind of three-factor authentication. So, I'll never just speak to one LLM, I'll speak to three of them. I notice if I go by three, the odds of them making mistakes seems to go significantly lower. Going back to that New York thing that it feels like what are you going to do? Like you can't control it. It's just New Yorkers always like crazy for regulation like this that never happens, never passes, or never actually actualizes. Even if they do, immediately people are going to VPN. We live in the world of the VPN. Like these regulations just are going to have absolutely no impact apart from headlines. There's a billion users using ChatGPT. What are you going to It's like fist-fighting the wind to be like, "No, we're going to We say no." Garden hose to a forest fire. >> Yeah, what are you going to do? >> When when AI first kicked off, there was all the talk about hallucinations and it's definitely gotten a lot better. And like the original line was never like speak to an LLM without first speaking to your doctor or your lawyer. And now my line is like, "That's true, but also never Yeah, yeah, never speak to your doctor or your lawyer without first consulting an LLM." >> Right. The amount of people I know personally that have fixed health conditions that they've been working with a doctor for 10 to 20 years that ChatGPT has just one-shotted in one is is incredible. >> You see that Speaking of Polymarket, Polymarket took down the will a nuclear war break out this year betting market because there was way too much trading volume happening around what's going on in Iran. >> Oh, wow. What is Polymarket? Uh You've never been on X, George? >> discovered it. I just discovered it. X, George? 14 years. >> Mr. Beast is on 68. I don't know I don't know what Polymarket is. Uh do you want to describe it, Sean? I I don't even know how to [ __ ] say what it is. >> Yeah, it's basically a casino for everything. So, you can go bet on >> dangerous. They call it a prediction market. It's kind of like the Aoli versus mayonnaise like situation. So, it's like, "Oh, sports betting, not legal." Polymarket betting on a sport event, legal somehow. And so, basically, you can go So, you can bet on who's going to become president. You can bet on who's going to win this this game this weekend, but you can also bet on anything. Like, who's going to win or like, you know, will there be a strike? Will this guy be the president in a month? And so, you can bet on basically any outcome. And the the criticism of prediction markets early on was they become assassination markets. Because you create this a huge incentive to just say, "Will this guy be around?" And if I want money, it ends up becoming a bounty. This is becoming a Deadpool. Yeah, exactly. So, that's always been the criticism. And it's like, "Oh, there's plenty of other good things about it." Like, uh if you want to know the truth about how likely is something to happen, if you go to the New York Times or any like any just traditional news outlet, you know, the incentive of the writer is to write a juicy headline, and then maybe have they have their opinion. But Polymarket is basically only people with skin in the game betting on an outcome. So, if you're wrong consistently, you will lose money. If you're right consistently, you'll have a bigger bankroll on Polymarket. So, over time, it becomes the closest thing to like accurate predictions. >> Did they get the election right in 2024? Yep. Did they? And there's a cash payout for this? Like, you're actually gambling? It's just gambling, but it's gambling with a graph. It's an exchange. It's very important. It's gambling, but there's a graph on it. Uh which makes it look a lot more like a market. >> Yeah. What's your kind of take on it? Do you think how do you think it's going to play out over the next few years? Unstoppable. Like, I think it's going to be People love gambling. People love predicting things. People need the information. Uh I mean, it's growing like crazy right now. I don't know if you saw There's actually a funny story. I think I have it on my sheet if you want to pull it up, but there was this man and woman apparently getting divorced. This might be a fake news AI, by the way. It like the story's almost too good to be true, but they're they're getting divorced. The man worked part-time in a warehouse, but suddenly started driving like a BMW. And the wife was like Can you She asked her lawyer like, "Can you just Do you have a way to check like how could he afford this car?" And basically he did like a a forensic audit and and subpoenaed like kind of subpoenaed his digital wallets. And they basically found that this guy had made $3 million over the last year with a pretty much 100% hit rate on his Polymarket bets. And what he had realized there and so she was now going to be entitled to $3 million half of $3 million. But the guy fighting it in the courtroom was like, "Well, this is not an asset. It's a strategy. I'm running a strategy that's allowing me to win." So the judge was like, "Okay, what's your strategy?" And he basically was like, "Well, I just realized that um the Las Vegas sportsbooks would update and the market I was betting on wasn't updating fast enough. And so I would just bet the new odds even if the thing didn't happen. It was going to always match the like new odds." And so he's like, "I was just arbitraging that." And so he had like they audited his bets and it was just all green basically. Uh and so there's a lot of people that have found these little arbitrages. Like people are sending people to let's say a sporting event because they can relay what happened faster than the broadcast and faster than the like the database updates. >> was happening in Asia with uh soccer matches. Yeah. >> I swear this was happening there and someone was going over and sending it back. >> Yeah, it's like if you ever read Flash Boys, there was like a whole like quant trading thing where if they put your server close to the New York Stock Exchange server, you could get your trade in before the guy who was doing it through a sent like a normal uh server. And they're like putting fiber through mountains to like shave off pennies off of every trade essentially. >> Wow. So do gambling laws apply then universally to Polymarket? When it came out, it's a gambling affiliate. So like we can't do it in Georgia cuz it's gambling. >> a loophole. So prediction markets are not considered gambling. They're they're like commodities contracts. So it's like it's like betting on the future price of like soybeans. So they're they're they're they're regulated by the same people who do like the commodities markets. And so, that's how they've been able to get around this. Everything. >> Everything. World events. >> There is no Oh, so much smaller than World Events. Like, what color is the Gatorade going to be that gets dunked over the head of the coach at the Super Bowl? Anything. And we're calling this It's called Polymarket, and it's it's >> Market. It's This is like when someone says, "What do you do for work?" and they go, "I'm a sanitation engineer." He's a [ __ ] trash guy. It's just like He's This is the same exact thing. Branding, branding. Branding. Every bit of life essentially becomes inside of trading if if you take it far enough. Wow. >> It's an interesting question I have. Like, during the halftime show, they were like, "Oh, is he going to play this song?" Well, guess what? There was like 400 backup dancers. And so, it was very They're getting caught cuz it's like suddenly this wallet comes out, puts 32 grand on this one obscure market, and it's like, "Guess what? He was a backup dancer." >> the guy who stood outside of the stadium in the days preceding it to time >> Oh, yeah. how long the national anthem national anthem was going to be. And he was like out there with a stopwatch. He videoed it himself with a start cuz they're rehearsing, rehearsing, rehearsing, and then puts the bet on and wins a [ __ ] [ __ ] ton of money because he knew exactly what was going to >> legal cuz he was outside. It was public information. And he's one of those radio telescope listening device things like tuning in and sure enough >> We need a close-up of just his face during this discussion. The whole discussion we have you picture in picture cam >> of his face. Okay, so at each of those explanations Okay, so Polymarket? Yeah. Did you guys see the the Super Bowl streaker guy? His his YouTube channel? No. >> He put meta Ray-Bans on, right? He did. So, so So, this guy This video is incredible. I don't watch many YouTube videos, but I watched all 30 minutes of this video. Hang on, how many He's been training SINCE >> A TRAINING SO, THIS IS LIKE A AGILITY DRILL. NO, NO, it's so funny that the length so so this guy did it before and he's like, "I'm going to do it again, 23 days." And this is basically a training montage of like a bank heist, but it's just streaking at the Super Bowl. Wow. >> So, he's doing agility drills and he shows pictures of the security guards, which, you know, they look like event security and he's like, "You think they can stop me?" As he's doing like a shuttle drill This is brilliant. Creating a This is like he's training for the combine. >> Yeah, exactly. And so, he And then if you skip forward, he's like on SeatGeek looking at the like 3D images of which seat is optimal to jump up like how high is the rail? How how deep is the fall? And then he has a decoy, so he has his friend do it with him. The friend jumps first. Everybody goes to tackle him and then he jumps second and gets a free run. This is This is the run. That's the friend. Oh, so >> he goes second while they're Oh, NO WAY. THAT'S THE FALLEN SOLDIER. And then this guy, "You think you can stop me?" Shake and bake. And then he's like, "Uh-uh." In the meadows. Get >> This is like Madden, right? In the meadows. Dude, I saw A GUY GET TACKLED >> DOWN BY A BY THE BY AN actual player. That's unreal. What's the penalty for something like that? A ticket cuz it's a misdemeanor? No, he goes to jail. So, he goes to jail for the night, but he knew that cuz it happened last year. So, he's like, "I got to remember to piss before. I got to eat because I don't want to You know, like he's like planning for his jail visit." And then at the end he basically responds like it's GTA cuz the footage comes back when he's leaving the jail. And all of this was to promote his like um stock tips platform or something, but he got like over a million views on it. If he could have bet on yourself on Polymarket. He did, I think. He did. He did, yeah. He knew what the fine was and then he bet on himself. >> Yeah. And he did it. >> Odds of a streaker at the Super Bowl? He didn't want to like confirm it, but they're like pretty sure. Wow. >> Him and his friends >> a crazy bag off this. Isn't that crazy? Isn't it like just insane what YouTube will It's like, "Show me your incentive, I'll show you your outcome." It's like YouTube is basically like, "Do the craziest shit." >> Yeah. So, then people do exactly the craziest [ __ ] >> that you try and burn it is unreal. Did you guys see this Are you on X but you're not on Are you on Tik Tok? Like Okay, he is Tik Tok. There's a Tik Tok that I thought was just so super funny. It's Tom Cruise. There's this Tom Cruise impersonator. And what happens is this guy invites him over to his house. He He basically hires the Tom Cruise impersonator but not for a party or corporate event. Just come over to my living room. And so, I don't know Have you guys seen this? He's do Yes. >> Put the sound on cuz the voice is amazing. This is so good. Hey, what's up? It's hot and tea. Yeah, I guess just like whatever. So, it's super awkward, right? Talk, talk. Hey, good to see you. Hey, my dastard plan. You don't know what it's like to be out here for you is it I'm a Don driving seats that I can never fully tell you about. Just help me help you. What are we talking about here? What have you done? Tell me. Good to see you here. It's good to see you for me. It's the best day of my life. It's going to keep getting better. It's an honor to meet you. It's going to keep getting better. Good to SEE YOU, DODGE. STOICISM. WHAT ARE YOU WORKING ON, TOM? DEEP LEARNING. What do you I'm working on a ton of things. All sorts of stuff. You do flying inverted, you know, buzzing the tower, all that stuff. Just really happy to be here. You ever had a new tonic? I got to I got to read the ingredients first. Yeah, I like all these things. Yeah. Did you put ketamine in this new tonic? Early yoga. Am I in a K-HOLE RIGHT NOW? I studied early yoga. L-theanine, one of my favorites. >> How's the church? Church is good. Church is good. Really giving me everything I need. Oh, shoot. THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES. LET ME COMPOSE MYSELF. ALL RIGHT. SO, HOW'S EVERYONE DOING? WAIT, how are we going down this hole? >> So much better than I was 5 minutes ago. I'm delighted. >> How far down the rabbit hole have we gone? >> Let's go deep, okay? How far How far we going to go? I feel I feel like I'm in a [ __ ] fever dream. You don't feel like you're in a fever dream? >> you think I feel? By the way, if you'd been a mass shooter, we would have all been dead. I have no defensive capabilities at all. Well, sneaky. Holy [ __ ] >> hide the security in this place. How did he get in here? >> Have you Have you any more questions for me? Have you ever met the actual Tom? I did, yeah. Met him, yeah. How was that? I told my mom and it was a very exciting. He was kind of wet. Well, you know, it was it was 2:00 in the morning. I was with some friends having drinks and he was having dinner with like a big group of people. And I wanted to buy him a bottle of champagne as like a way to commemorate after I'd been impersonating for 10 years at time. Just, you know, meeting him for the first time. And the waiter shot me down, said So, have you been to the Chateau Marmont, anyone? No? In LA? Iconic iconic landmark hotel. But now it's like different different kind of place, like a special like Soho House kind of membership club. But tried to buy him a bottle of champagne. The waiter shot me down, said you'll be banned and I'm going to be fired. So, I just couldn't approach Tom Cruise. But my girlfriend at the time said uh there's no way in hell you're leaving here tonight without meeting him. So, she was really adamant about it. So, he leaves, 2:00 in the morning. I'm having uh drinks with my friend and getting more progressively more drunk, right? And everyone's gone. It's just Jimmy, my friend Jimmy, myself, and Donna in the garden of the Chateau. It's a restaurant. And she ends up leaving to go to the bathroom. And uh Jimmy gets a phone call from Donna saying Tom Cruise is waiting for me in the valet area. Like literally waiting for me. I couldn't believe it. So, I get up out of my chair. I sprint through the whole lobby and the whole hotel. I get there and he's there with Jeremy Renner about to get on his motorcycle, 2:00 in the morning. And we had this really nice moment. We shook each other, you know, it's an honor and privilege to meet you. You complete with shirt and tie. He's very handsome. Close talker, he's handsome, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It was very exciting. I didn't go to sleep that night. It was definitely a wonderful experience, yeah. Tom, we appreciate you being a special guest. >> Oh, absolutely. I wanted to state my welcome. Wow. >> to back off. If you need anything from me, just let me know, you know. If you need to learn about, you know, logic and reasoning, I'm here for you, okay? What a blessing. I love him, too. Hey. Nice job. Beach volleyball tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. Exactly. Shirts. Dude, you did a good job, man. Is he going to write high? That's [ __ ] right. I'm going to get the close-up of the crying. Where do we go from here? I mean, how do you think audio listeners feel? The big question. THE BIG QUESTION. Get a studio, they said. It won't drive you insane, they said. The mouse shooter line is spot on. Completely. If that guy had a side arm, everybody in here would have died. >> in 3 seconds after the door opened. Yeah, he moves fast, say. I was telling the guys, I was like, I was like, "I want to do this. I think it would be fun. Just do something different." And they were like, they were like, "You know, we don't want to throw Chris off his vibe for the first episode." I was like, "I don't know. I think I'm going to do it. I think we're going to do it anyway." >> of the vibe. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] I was like, "It might work, but just don't touch Chris." He went straight for the handshake. I was like, "Oh, fuck." Just rugby tackles me to the ground. Jesus [ __ ] Christ, dude. Oh, okay. Um, look, you know sleep matters, but let's be real. Most nights you're probably not getting the sort of sleep that's actually restorative. Eight Sleep's Pod 5 fixes that. 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This pattern appeared far more frequently in India than any other country. In India, searches about breastfeeding a husband appear roughly as often as searches about breastfeeding a baby. Wow. Before you make a comment, Sean, BRING HER THROUGH. I THINK THE LOVE TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME. BONNIE, come on down. I think the most shocking part about that was after you relayed that bomb drop of a statistic, I look at Sean and he goes, "Yeah." Yeah. Like it's Of course. It makes a lot of sense. >> And the sky is blue. So, if you look at a map, uh Pornhub released all of that. They've got good data science team, which you might not expect actually, but Pornhub have got a great data science team. And if you look at the most popular types of porn across the world, varies country to country, the absolute outlier is India with breastfeeding porn. And I'm fascinated to work out why. I think it maybe it's something to do with the sort of overbearing mother thing, redemption arc, some [ __ ] Freudian [ __ ] going on, or something to do with cows and milk. Sacred. I don't know. Yeah. I like how you're like explaining your people's behaviors. >> That's right. That's it. That's it. You speak You speak for the billion Indians and It's basically our version of the step sister genre, right? Like that's basically the I think in in America it's like it could be a man and woman hooking up, but what if she was a step sister or step mom? It's like there's always like a step whatever. In India we don't really get divorced, so there's not really a step There's not really a step thing, so you just go straight to the mom. That's my explanation. Straight to the source. Right. It's the closest thing that you can get to acceptable >> isn't there like the Freudian thing like you like you know you there's like desire for the mom or whatever. >> Yeah, in early childhood Speak for yourself, Sean. Not that I Not that I have the experience, but in early childhood the Freudian thing is that there's like that's your first attraction. I was reading I'm reading the Elon biography and they were talking cuz Elon's had pretty like terrible choice in women or at least like for himself like the relationships have not worked out. >> quite a big sample size. He's the common denominator here. Yeah, fair enough. But like he was with Amber Heard and it was like a pretty toxic relationship, but they stayed together. They got back together. He was with a He was with uh I think Talulah Riley. They got married in seven He proposed in seven days. And then they got married, divorced, at the divorce proceeding they start making out until the judge they don't they're going to do go go ahead with the divorce but then they move back in together. So, he's done some like questionable things and one one of his wives basically said like he's attracted to like the abuse cuz his father was so abusive. And it's basically like he there's something about like love and the intensity of a toxic abusive relationship that like fused somewhere in his body. So, when he meets a woman who's intense and they get into like a toxic relationship like he has that anchor to love somehow like parental love in some weird way. So, I was like I found out some interesting stuff this week about insecure attachment. So, avoidant attachment, fearful avoidant, and anxious attachment. There's different types of attachment styles and about 50% of the population securely attached. About 20% are anxiously attached. About 20 20% are avoidant attached. Sorry, 5% are fearful avoidant which is both about 25% are anxious avoidant. What do you think is most people that have an insecure attachment style? They're not happy with it. They want to change it. They they they would much sooner not be pushing people away that they want to get close to or worried that someone's going to leave them. That maybe they feel like they're overreacting to their absence too much. Uh so, I was interested to work out what the evolutionary advantages are that it conferred on people by being anxious or avoidant. And you think well, there there there have to be some. Anxiously attached people they have much keener sense of paying attention to small differences, changes in the moments, changes in environment. And there was a great study done where they brought people into a setting and they'd already done an attachment style quiz prior so, they understood the different attachment styles in the room. And then a computer would slowly blow a little bit of smoke out as if there was a fire that might be about to start. What was fascinating is the anxiously attached people were the ones who noticed the smoke first. Mhm. But the avoidantly attached people were the first ones out the door. Mhm. Every single time. And the argument here is that the anxiously attached people are able to pay attention to small changes. They're the ones that will be scrutinizing. They're hyper-vigilant for stuff. But they'll think, "Should we Do we leave? That tiger Like do we think it's getting closer? Is it" The avoidant people are like, "I'm [ __ ] out of here." And everybody then follows after them. So, one of the cool things that the avoidantly attached people have is an competitive advantage. They work better on their own. They're decisive, but they're really good at being in calamity. Because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off. So, if you were an EMT, if you were dealing with some horrendous car accident, some car wreck, and you just need to get the job done, you almost need to sort of put one bit of your brain off to a side. You need to be like, "Okay, compassion. Like it's not not time for you now." Whereas a more anxiously attached person would struggle somewhat more to do that. And I think what's cool about it is uh we don't ever look We tend to not look so much at the advantages conferred by stuff that we feel are shortcomings. And this is a really good example here of Sure, maybe you wish that you weren't worried that your partner's going to leave you all the time, but this is why you're amazing at marketing copy or at paying attention to to brand or you know, for instance, if you were a uh police unit, you would want the SWAT guys to be avoidant and the detectives to be anxious. And uh it's just I think it's really interesting to think about how different psychological makeups give you both benefits and costs. And uh that's a a cool study about it. >> I like that. The secure ones just stay. Stay and burn. >> The secure people are the worst. Yeah. Secure people by far are the worst. They've got the best relationships, but they're the ones that don't notice the thing and would >> Right. be burned alive. Yeah. It's like a gossip, right? Like gossip is seen as a negative thing to do. Uh that's like that's a that's a trait you should try to get rid of. It's like, well, why does why did gossip survive evolutionarily? It's well, it's actually incredibly important. I can't vet 150 different people in a new tribe. So, we need gossip to quickly spread about each person's reputation for me to like survive in any large group. So, gossip is actually incredibly important if you're going to be in any sort of social tribe, but it's seen as this like really negative behavior that you should stop doing. You know what I mean? You know what venting is? So, it's somebody that is able to couch gossip under concern for another person. So, it's an effect in psychology called the bless her heart effect. And it really only happens among women, not so much among among men. So, they brought um women into a lab and they had a confederate, as they're called, so that the uh person that's a part of the study coming over, they didn't know it. Two versions. First version, the woman is dressed very provocatively and looks uh sort of well put together, like quite sexy. In the second version, she looks like a mess, like not a sexual rival at all. So, how much of a sexual rival is this particular woman? That's what they were controlling for. And in both versions, this woman comes in and says, "I slept with two guys last night and I don't really know what's going on, and like I'm not really too sure about this thing." And then later on, she would leave the room. And what you find is that the woman that she said it to, if she was dressed provocatively, more likely says tells somebody else. They gossip about what's going on. But the type of gossip is what cause they called it the bless her heart effect. The type of gossip is couched under concern. So, "George, I'm just so worried. I'm really really worried about Christina. She's just sleeping with all of these guys and I'm so worried that she's going to get hurt." And the reason that you do that is that if anybody ever pulls you up on it, it's like, "Well, look, Christina, I was just like I I I'm sorry. I'm just worried about you." I'm >> just so worried about you. And implicitly, it says, "Me? Right. I would never. Right. No, I wouldn't that I could never that would never be what I would do. Also, I'm pro-social. Look at how much I'm looking out for. But also, she slept with two [ __ ] guys last night, by the way. And uh yeah, it's just the bless her heart effect gossip thing is is pretty [ __ ] And what do they say about the other woman? They were less likely to say >> it at all. They were less likely Yeah, because she looked like she was down on her luck. She didn't look like a sexual rival. So, it's a enforcement mechanism for um intersexual competition among women. It's the way it works. Didn't she have a a lady on recently you had a discussion about malicious nature within females? A full 2 hours of it, yeah. Danny Solkowski. She's a beast, but um the fact that the internet hasn't got angry at that episode just shows how much female privilege there is. But she can say all of that. Everyone goes there and finds all of the problems with it. Yeah, it was uh it's fascinating, dude. So, endless. >> just a big promotion and masterclass on how to hang on to all your traumas and actually don't change. No, stay avoidant. Stay anxious. Life's Life's better this way. Yeah. Don't do the work if a computer gets set on fire? It's really important. >> You You need to hang on to that thing that made you not have committed relationships so you don't die in a fire. >> Yeah. Of course, naturally. Time has flown by during this podcast, which brings me on to my point about time. You're the king of transitions. Amazing segue. Phil Collins's grandson is It's the on it right now. Sylvester Stallone's stepson. You're so perceptive of the environment. Are you anxiously attached? Yeah. There needs to be an award for um worst transition. Um So, there's a guy called Albert Hein in around about the 1880s and he is a geologist who's climbing up a mountain and he falls 60 ft, right? So, from the laws of physics, a 60 ft fall is 1 2 boom and you're dead. Um so, he But now he recalls what his experience was like a fall like. So, he falls and he immediately thinks as he's falling down, um he thinks, "Should I take my glasses off or should I keep them on? Should I drop my cane or should I basically cry for help?" He goes, "Oh, cuz I wonder what's going to happen when people realize that I'm on this cliff edge, that I'm dead. Should I let them know like this is happening?" Then he starts thinking about the lecture he's going to give next week and how um they're going to all be there and go, "Oh, he's dead." Then his entire life flashes before his eyes. 2 seconds. And he can't What would be interesting about the story you would immediately go, "Well, this is quackery. This is like him potentially making this thing up post talk." But he then spent his entire life like chatting to other people who have had this experience of falling off things from builders to different climbers and lots of them mirrored the exact same thing. That just as you're about to die, your dilation of time slows down so much. It's one big thing I've been writing about of late around um how do we go about slowing down the speed of time or changing um time. I think you could find it on my um Twitter, Jared. If you search George Mack Janet's Law about how time compresses with age. It's kind of this idea that you've experienced according to this theory, which I don't think's necessarily true, but according to this theory you've lived half of your life by around about the age of 20. Um and experientially experientially particularly because children, the reason why time feels slow so slow as a child is everything is new. So that's one of the arguments of how you slow down time is for example also been here time has slowed down um to some extent because we've been doing something new or you're in a new environment. But by the time you've been doing it 300 times, things go so much faster. But I'm intro- I don't know if you guys have actually thought through of like how as you get older do you go about slowing down time and not just waking up 85. >> Yeah. I have >> [ __ ] everything went. What do you do? We'll get back to talking in just 1 second, but first tell me if this sounds familiar. You train regularly, you eat reasonably well, maybe you even supplement. You feel fine, but you're just kind of going off vibes. Most people have absolutely no idea what's going on inside of their body, which is why I partnered with Function. Function gives you access to more than 160 advanced lab tests spanning hormones, heart health, metabolic markers, inflammation, thyroid, nutrients, liver and kidney function. It even detects early signals linked to more than 50 types of cancer. To put that in perspective, your typical annual physical might test about 20 markers and Function runs over 160. And this isn't just numbers dumped into your inbox. 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I mean, this sounds incredibly rudimentary such a cliche take, but I think it's cliche because it's true. It yeah, there's a reason that cliches exist. Is I think things feel slower when you make an intention to over romanticize them. Like how one of the things I heard a friend say is is how good can it get? How good God can it get? Like the cup of coffee. How damn good is this cup of coffee? And it forces you into the present over something seemingly minuscule, but if that coffee was bad, you'd notice it, right? Because you want a decent cup of coffee and then if it's horrendous, you get pissed off. So, why not notice, "Wow, this is the perfect temperature. It's just bitter enough, but a little sweet." And then you look up and you go, "Wow, and the sun's out this morning and it feels warm." And I find that when I bring perceptive or a sensory experience into the present moment and just romanticize your life as the cliche would call. Everything feels more novel. And we were having cheeseburgers the other night. I'm just like, how fun is this? You know, you got we got to watch I got to watch my friend work out material he's so excited about. And now we're eating a damn good cheeseburger. How good can it get? So so my that literally what I wrote about was three things. So like the the original story that's part of it is it comes at it from a different angle, but it's essentially this boy called Henry, um which I think I've told on the Christmas show. But just for people who haven't heard it before, um Henry uh is like 5 years old. He's playing outside on the streets of Connecticut and a cyclist doesn't see him, clatters into Henry, knocks him unconscious. And his life becomes a bit strange. He starts having seizures, but by the age of 27 he's having 20 seizures per day. Um and he's desperate to fix it. He's trying everything that he can. And this is during like peak experimental brain surgery. So he goes forward, volunteers, and wakes up and he basically gets delivered some good news, some bad news, some awful news by life. So the good news is that the surgery's largely fixed his epilepsy. The bad news is that he won't remember the good news cuz of the awful news. And the awful news is that he's destroyed his ability to form new memories. So Henry lives from the age of 27 to 82 the same day. I say cuz he only can remember things in 2-minute increments and they disappear. So he meets his psychiatrist for the first time every day. But the most disturbing thing about Henry was he would look in the mirror each day and be confused why the reflection looks so old. Um cuz he's just forgotten every always I was 27, but now I'm 65, but now I'm at 72. >> long-term memories. Like he's anchored at a certain time. Exactly before 27. So basically begs the question you have like all the Brian Johnsons of the world, which I think are great, like the longevity people, but very few people talk about time longevity cuz in theory Henry lived a long life. He lived till 82. Or did he die at 27? And it's such an important part of memory. And the three the three things that I concluded when I was looking at the research for it, there's a great book called time expansion dilution, I believe, um that goes into this more in depth, but number one is novel experiences, so doing new things. Number two is around a Both two and three are kind of what you said, uh, rolled into two different things. So, two is like trying to create stories. So, what's interesting is you don't remember your social media feed from yesterday. Um, you can barely remember a tweet from yesterday despite the fact you scroll past so many novel things, but you can remember a movie from two years ago because we like character arcs, we like purpose, we like emotion, we like a build-up. So, thinking about your kind of day or life into a story, like what would the hero do next? And then the third one was it very closely tied to what you said, too, which is like this Japanese concept uh, which I'm going to butcher, but called like ichigo ichie, which is essentially this idea that every moment, even if it is a recurring moment, cuz you're not going to be able to novel max every single day, um, but even right now, we're all this exact age that we are in the studio for the first time. Um, so, whenever you look for the specific details exactly like you did there, time itself does begin to slow down. It's amazing. The novelty thing is such a huge part. I mean, I wrote about this seven years ago badly, and then again 18 months ago slightly better. And, uh, the two things, novelty and intensity, were what I sort of landed on. And, um, you're right, it is really, really important. Like, people don't want to miss their lives, objectively arrive, but subjectively not feel it. And this thing, this sort of sense of stuff rushing past. I think it's something that's particularly felt by people that are optimizers because by virtue of optimizing, you find what works, and then you rinse and repeat it. That's what routine is. And, uh, the problem with that is it actually compresses time together. My best My favorite example of this is uh, your drive to work. >> Yeah. Your drive to work is something that you've done 500, a thousand, two thousand times throughout your life, throughout that one job, that one office. Can you tell me anything unique about that drive? It's compressed into basically a single memory, except for that one day when it was icy and the car skidded backward. Well, what's that? It's novelty and intensity. And it's also called the holiday effect. Why is it that holidays seem to stretch out? I think about this trip I took to Africa. It's nearly a decade ago with an ex-girlfriend, and I can remember the squeak of the leather shoes of the porter and the ornithology book, this weathered ornithology book that he was carrying. And the steps down and the steps were rickety and he the bellboy offered to carry my bag, but I felt bad, so I took I can't remember the [ __ ] 16-digit number on the front of my credit card that I've had for [ __ ] 3 years. Why? Well, because novelty and intensity. And um the more that I think people can just try and ratchet that into their lives. And it's strange because if you have too much novelty, you end up with chaos. And you don't actually gain any of the benefits of consistency and reliability. Yeah, there's no compounding because the the environment changes so quickly that you can't get any in there. Right. >> But yeah, that you you've hit on something I think super important. >> Well, what's cool cuz like who lives it? Cuz I you know, I see all this advice, right? Whether it's on X or it's in podcasts, and it's like you know, here's a study or here's a here's a quote I love. But um it's like okay, what are you are you doing this? How are you doing Are you doing that What do you do? Like I like your burger example. And then if you could find somebody in your life that actually lives that way, it's like a game changer cuz it's super contagious once you just notice the delta. Like if I sit next to you and I notice that you sit differently or that you eat differently when we go and order, it's very apparent to me when my peers do something different than me. And so for me like my my trainer is a guy who basically is like imagine never having listened to any of the podcasts and self-help at all, but you just did all those things. That's basically him. This guy is like I've I've seen him probably 5 days a week for the last 5 years. Um and it shows. And also, he I've never seen him have a bad day. Like, not even like in a bad mood. I could be late. He can get in a fender bender. Never. Never seen this guy rocked. And so, that's kind of like seeing a billionaire, but for mood. It's like, what I don't know what that is, but that's incredible. You have a lot of good mood. How do you do this [ __ ] And he tells me cuz I've noticed him. Like, what does he do differently? He's always playing little mind games, little mini games. So, I've told the story once before on our podcast, but people have come up to me like years later mentioning like, "Oh, I love that story about your trainer." And it's this DMV story. I don't know if I I've never I've never told you, but he had to go to the DMV. So, he comes to my house and he's like he's like, "Dude, he's like, today's the day." I'm like, "What's what's today?" He goes, "I've been driving for the last 2 years with like expired license, and it's been this low underlying anxiety every time I drive of what if I get pulled over? I've got this expired license." He's like, "I've just been avoiding going to the DMV." Cuz DMV's terrible. He goes, "So, today I did something different." And basically, he went on Yelp and he he went to go look, "Where is the DMV?" And it you know, it has like Google has like star ratings or Yelp has like ratings. So, DMV is basically like the lowest-rated venue on Yelp. And so, it's like 1 and 1/2 stars. And he goes, "How do I have a five-star DMV experience?" So, he just asked himself a new question, creates a game out of it. And so, he's like, "Okay." He's like, "I can't go there and expect them to give me five-star hospitality." He's like, "I'm going to go as a five-star customer." So, he just changes his mindset. He's like, "I will go as a five-star customer and now I think I'll have a five-star experience." So, he goes, he parks. He walks in with a little pep in his step. He holds the door. He's not trying to rush in line. He's like, "You guys all go. Yeah, yeah, go. I'll be behind you." And one of the women that he let in, actually she was working there. She was just doing a shift change. He's joking around with her, sort of flirting with her on the way in. Um, this sort of like big old lady at the DMV. And so, she's like, "What are you here for, honey?" And he's like, "Oh, I got to get my license. I've been driving without it, you know, expired for 2 years. And like, today's the day. It's going to be amazing when I get this license. I'm going to feel so good." And she goes, "You know what? Come with me." Takes him front of the line, gets him the thing. He's supposed to do a driving test. She just signs off on it, gets him his license. He ends up having this five-star experience at the DMV, which was kind of like running the 4-minute mile or something. It's like this like if you can have a great experience at the DMV, you can have a great experience in any condition, right? Like I don't need to achieve X to have great experience. And so his five-star DMV has stuck with me cuz now you can play that game pretty much any I'm going through TSA right now. How do I like how do I have five-star What if I was James Bond and how I kind of smoothly went through this versus just dragging ass like I normally do? And I I found that that's like novelty without being like today I need to go on this new hike, new vacation, new thing cuz that's hard to do and most people can't do it. What I like is he brought the novelty into like the everyday and you become sort of invincible when you do that. >> He romanticized his DMV experience. Correct. That's exactly what he did. Which is different to you who tries to romance your DMV experience. Yes, I hit on the lady who's giving me the license. And it works every single My man, come on now. You know what? That's a beautiful to to make it practical, that is a beautiful example of something you alluded to earlier, which I think some is a summation of what you so beautifully wrote about, which is being childlike. In the Bible, God calls us multiple times to have childlike faith, to be like children in everything that we do. And somewhere along the way we grow up and we start taking everything so seriously. And to say you said earlier, you said, you know, just wait when you have a kid and everything's novel, you can spin this and they're like, "Whoa." Yeah. Cuz everything is novel. >> Disneyland, right? Exactly. That that that's like I that's why I think it's so important in the Bible is the ultimate self-help book. It's such good advice. Just be childlike in everything that you do and that pulls you into the present moment. Huberman did a minisode recently on the importance of play in longevity and how as we get old we just stop playing and stop moving in that way and we die from that. >> Yeah. And in my life lately, I've just been like the curious 6-year-old inside of me again. >> we do in the park the other day? We played. We threw the ball. We walked past I know that you used to have a basketball Mhm. in front of you on your pod We did a pod and he was just a mini basket mini leather basket. >> have this little ball with me. It's so fun. >> And uh we were walking through the park and some dog must have just left a relatively good condition tennis ball. Like, okay, we're turning around and spend 15 minutes just unloading on our rotator cuffs. >> I'm still It was It was Did you hear that, pop? Yeah. Was Was that audible in the IT'S LIKE A FULL ON BUT THAT It was It was such a just a little kid young boy moment because at the same time Chris and I are walking and we both see the ball and I bend down as I'm bending down Chris goes, "Yep." And it We didn't say anything. "Yep." And we immediately started playing toss. >> Yep. And it just burned 20 minutes and it was just so fun. >> I have this uh phrase Sorry, I I have this phrase called uh uh dogs, kids, and dead people. And It's like, "What What is What is that?" It's basically that's why want to spend time with and learn from because you want to learn about like unconditional love, be with a dog. Right? A dog is like loyal, it's a great friend, it's a great pet, right? Then kids are just like childlike wonder about everything and the dead people is like it's rather than spending my time consuming tweets and Tik Toks that people put 20 seconds into. It's like, "This guy put 20 years of his life into this book." Like go go hang with the dead. You will you know you It'll be better for you. And so just hanging changing who I hung with with kids, dogs, and dead people was like a pretty big game changer for you know overall enjoyment. >> Who's your favorite dead person that you've discovered? Um Who's my favorite dead person I discovered? Right now, I'm hanging Right now like I told you I was reading this like stoicism book and so which is like whatever, pretty cliche, but there's a guy who wrote a book that basically summarizes like Here's what Aristotle was saying, here's what Socrates was saying, then this guy was all about suffering to prove himself. So he kind of lived a pretty tough life. This guy was doing this and they exiled him to this island. Basically like a walk-through all the Stoics and it's pretty good cuz it's like it summarizes all of them and like the slight nuances of the different schools of thought that they had cuz they were basically all influencers. And so one guy had this school of thought he influenced he got all these people behind him. And then this other guy branched out spun it off and was like, "Yeah, it's that but without the suffering. It's way more fun over here." And then they all got really popular and so on and so forth and so they're all dead now but learning from their you know, their philosophies are so >> Mhm. so valuable. A quick aside, most people think that they're dehydrated because they don't drink enough water. Turns out water alone isn't just the problem. It's also what's missing from it, which is why for the last 5 years I've started every single morning with a cold glass of Element in water. 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Like, my dad always gave me this great piece of advice, which is whenever something goes well, try and think how down you'd be if it didn't go well, and at least enjoy it that much. So, even if you are going to have your downs, at least have your ups. And I I guess my concern with stoicism at times it's a little bit I don't know, it's a little bit dry, or it's a it makes people a little bit more more numb, which I don't particularly like. There's a great Speaking I think he's dead now, he wrote this in the '50s. Have you heard of uh masturbation? Well. Well, not No, no. I'm assuming you pronounce it >> differently. >> As an Indian man. Yeah. It's when you're You watch a video of a mom with a Yeah, yeah, bring him in. Bring him in. Bring in the mother. We've got an active shooter. So, um so, um uh basically it's it's a guy called Ellis, and he had it's like rational emotive behavioral therapy. So, it's like a it's like a spin-off of cognitive behavioral therapy. And essentially, his idea I think it's lovely is that he basically has like a very, very small rule. He goes, "Everything's fair game apart from you can never use the word must to yourself, or like this has to happen." And what I've actually realized with a lot a lot of things with myself is you almost cuz you try so hard and you put so much pressure on yourself that you end up There's two things. There's either choking, which is when you overthink, when you think too much in the moment, like an athlete that can't throw the basketball shot. Or there's um uh What's the opposite of choking? It's um Clutch? Like, coming through in the clutch? No, there's um uh panicking. So, panicking is when you don't think at all, and you just do something reckless. So, like scuba divers that will just grab the oxygen when they they know they shouldn't do it. They can see themselves, but they do it. So, overthink and underthink. >> Exactly. So, um uh uh REBT essentially, this masturbation idea, he essentially has this concept which you can basically say anything about yourself, desire anything, but never say "Oh, this podcast has to go well today. It has to go well today, or else." Because as soon as you do that, you activate the fight or flight response. And you know, it's like a lot of people that are type A people that probably listen to this sort of [ __ ] Um it's often like an extreme statement. So, you can still say, "I really want this to go well." It's not like stoicism where it's like, "Whatever happens, happens. None of it matters." Cuz you kind of lose a little bit of the edge. But you just "I really want this to go well today." And even if it doesn't, I'll be okay. And it's just that little bit at the edge that just gets it in that perfect like Goldilocks zone between the two, which I think's um which I think's missed by stoicism. It's almost It's almost a degree of surrender behind the intention. Yeah. Surrendering to the experience and being fully open to whatever comes up, but hoping it goes a certain way. My friend Nick Komodina has this great quote, "We live in a universe that what we run from chases us and what we chase runs from us." >> Yeah. So, if you're constantly we sit down like, "God, this has to be a banger. It has to be a profound conversation." It would be the opposite of all of those things. And Tom Cruise probably never would have walked in. Yeah. But we just sat down here to shoot the [ __ ] and it's been a blast. It's a degree of surrender with an intention and a hope that it goes a certain way, but also giving into the experience. >> I did uh this emotions retreat with Joe Hudson in September and it was 12 hours a day for 7 days in a flower farm in uh Santa Rosa of just very, very deep, very difficult emotional work. And you had to write an intention before you went in. And this intention would go on this huge piece of paper and we'd be writing loads of stuff and it was on the wall and everybody could see what it was that you'd written throughout the throughout the week. And uh some people's intentions were really big and really grand and I felt so my felt really stupid. I was kind of ashamed of my cuz it felt so small and it felt so silly. Uh and by the end of the week I'd just completely fallen in love with it and it was my favorite definition of safety. Now, with emotional safety of feeling like you're enough, of feeling like you belong, of feeling like you're supposed to be that, and it was I'm okay no matter what happens. And that sense of this goes well, this goes badly, the power goes out, it doesn't, Tom Cruise comes in, Bonnie Blue like whatever goes on, I'm okay no matter what happens. And just that again that sort of sense of relaxing, it's a little bit of Jhana, the meditation technique that me and Georgia are playing with at the moment. But on the good luck, bad luck thing, I came across a quote that I'd already seen a bunch and I wrote about it this week. Cormac McCarthy, you never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from. And this this line I told this story to George this week and he was able to work out who it was, but it's [ __ ] fantastic. So, in the mid-90s there was a single mother living in near poverty in Edinburgh. When she left her first marriage it wasn't a quiet parting. She's described the relationship as abusive. She fled to Portugal with her baby daughter and a suitcase that contained the early chapters of a book that she was working on. At one point her ex-husband hid the manuscript trying to prevent her from leaving with it. She was clinically depressed and contemplating suicide. She couldn't afford to heat her flat properly, so she pushed her pram to cafes to write while her daughter slept. The manuscript was rejected by 12 publishers. That's 12 people telling her in different ways that it wasn't good enough. The rejection wasn't abstract, it was survival level. If the book failed, so did her last attempt at building a life. The humiliation of those refusals became momentum. J.K. Rowling went on to sell 500 million copies in the Harry Potter series globally and became richer than the queen. You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from. [ __ ] money, dude. That's why she has a great line where she goes rock bottom is the most solid foundation to build from. Arthur Brooks has got this line where he says psychology is biology. And basically you can't try and trick What's your thing about trying to think your way out of overthinking is like trying to sniff your way out of cocaine addiction. It's so [ __ ] >> Banger, George. All right. What you got? Uh I did Have you guys seen the You probably all seen this. You seen the McDonald's CEO thing that's been going viral? It's It's pretty interesting. Have you been following this? Uh so So the CEO of McDonald's tries to do a a promotional event for the new Big Arch, which kind of worked cuz it went viral, but not for the right reason. So I don't know if you've seen this. Check this out. With You've heard about it. Sure it is. The Big Arch. >> First of all, is this what you thought he'd look like? tested already in Portugal, Germany, Canada. I love this product. It is so good. Want to do a tasting right now, but I'm going to eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So Holy cow. God, that is a big burger. We've got a very unique kind of sesame poppy sort of bun on it. We've got two quarter-pound patties, a delicious Big Arch sauce, and of course some lettuce. So Oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing I don't even know. It's like me trying to unhook a bra for the first time. If you had my narration. All right, the moment of truth. Barely gone. >> Yeah. That is so good. That's a big bite for a big guy. It's distinctively McDonald's. Only McDonald's could do this type of burger, but it also is unlike anything else on our menu. It's a delicious product. You know, you've got sort of the cheeses and the gooiness, but those crispy onions as well gives a nice texture. And of course, we've got the pickles. So I'm going to enjoy the rest of my lunch, but Big Arch, try it when you can get it. Sort of cheeses is a great way to describe whatever's in You know he's basically like lying when he's like, "I'm going to eat this later off camera, but I'm definitely going to eat this. >> I want to be clear. I'm going to finish this later. >> this all the time. That made me feel physically ill. That made me feel physically uncomfortable to watch that. It's like watching an Android try to be a human. It was very strange. How did that get out? Like from the lab? Like a lab leak? What do you mean? Like the actual video. >> him that wasn't him catching something. What the [ __ ] >> Oh, no. Let's go. Oh, let's go. Ben Wait, Ben, look at the tie length on Ben. Can we just admire it? You may have to turn around. Turn around to the camera. Show the show the length of the tie. That's your camera. >> Ben wore his son's tie. Do we all try the the big arch with the McDonald's CEO bite? Are you passing? >> Can you just reenact reenact the CEO? What it's yeah, what was it like he was picking up AN ACT IED? THIS IS CALLS THE RED WIRE TO the big arch. >> Enjoy the product, Michael. The product. This is a great product. Wow, this is mechanically engineered. Oh, it's so It's so >> all got big arches. It's so wet. It is unbelievable. All right, I'm going to take a big bite for a big guy. You know that scene in SpongeBob SquarePants Krabby Patty with the tiniest little bit of Oh, wow. Mm. Mm. Oh, it's medium rare. That's good. That's good. I want my McDonald's beef to be medium rare. Did it maintain the perfect Good product. >> this. Does it still maintain its perfect circular shape? That's a unique poppy seed. I've never seen a bun like that. He said we have sort of a sesame What do you mean sort of a sesame seed? I'm really [ __ ] >> the way he used the word product. The good rule of thumb is no consumer uses the word product or consumer. Yeah. I shall now consume product. Everybody. Hello, fellow kids. Would you like to consume product? It's good? No, it's not bad. Yeah, how it? How is the Big Arch actually? That's what he should have done. If he made me want to eat it, but luckily, I already love the double quarter pounder, so this is this is great. It's not that special. But yeah, basically the CEO decided that he was going to [ __ ] torpedo himself. Yeah. It's so funny to think how did that get out? As if as if that wasn't meant to be for public consumption. Yes, well, I wonder if they it's be maybe a Machiavellian thing from the social media manager. You think it's you think it's an accidental I I thought that was >> the promo everyone's smart. Jared, throw up the the meme I have on the the doc of the McDonald's thing. It's so funny. I quite like it. When when Ben was looking for his McDonald's uniform, he went on Facebook Marketplace. This is the CEO of McDonald's right now. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. The he goes on Facebook Marketplace and he found somebody who has who is selling a uniform. And she goes like, "Oh yeah, sure. Like you need it for work?" And Ben was like, "Yeah, I need it for work." That's the actual uniform. No. And then she well, the woman you were messaging was you were trying to get the uniform and then she looked him up and was like, "It doesn't look like you work at McDonald's." And she got creeped out and did not give him the McDonald's uniform, so he had to make his own. You made that? My wife made this one, yeah. That's unbelievable. She ironed on the M. Did she make the tie, too? Or did you get that at Baby Gap? It's the perfect length, man. I think Ben's been in uniform waiting for the Big Arch moment with Tom Cruise in the green room. Just [ __ ] Ben in a McDonald's uniform and Tom Cruise. This is this is might be like the completely original scenario. This doesn't exist in any other timelines or realities. This is the first time in a thousand a thousand universes there's only one where Ben was dressed as a McDonald's guy next to a Tom Cruise impersonator waiting to give us the food. During the break, I said, "Oh, can I get a napkin? Tom Cruise spilled new tonic on the table." And I said Now that's a sentence that's never been said before. >> of your bloodline to ever do that. I give that out of 10 on three. Say your rating. Ready? 1 2 3 7 >> Not interesting. Not bad. It's okay. Yeah. A quick aside, there's a stat that genuinely surprised me when I first heard it. 95% of people don't get enough fiber. 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Right now, you can get up to 35% off your first subscription and that 30-day money-back guarantee by going to the link in the description below or heading to livemomentous.com/modernwisdom and using the code modernwisdom at checkout. That's l i v e m o m e n t o u s dot com slash modernwisdom and modernwisdom at checkout. I think there's an upper bound for McDonald's. Yeah, I think if it breaks a seven, it's not coming from McDonald's. Except for the Filet-O-Fish. I will die on that hill. Best sandwich in fast food. Um what do you think they're trying to achieve? Is this just every company CEO now needs to do self-branding? To build a personal Yeah, it's a lot everybody needs to have a personal brand. Yeah, I don't know. He's been basically only in front of shareholders, you can tell. And this was like this big coming out party and Only in front of reptilian people. It's a freaking lizard man, dude. If I was ever on the fence about that conspiracy, he just proved it. Yeah, but like if Zuck It took 20 years for Zuck to do this transformation, right? You remember when he was Also like a lizard. He literally had like a thing where you could find this where he was like, "I I was a human. I am human. I am a I am a human, right?" He literally was doing that and the Sweet Baby Ray's. Yep. And now he's just like swagged out and awesome and like cool. Like based, yeah. That's what happens. You get full figure testosterone and everything goes well. All right. Um how about I tell you about this? Have you heard of the beer mile? The beer mile? >> Yes. I've never must have heard of it. >> one last year, yes. >> You won a beer mile? Beat Devon Levesque in the beer mile at running >> want to explain what it is? Can we guess? >> It's Yeah. George, what is your guess? What is the beer mile? You drink beer and run? During? Before? Directionally accurate. During. So, the beer mile is I'm I wish I was being facetious when I said this. I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra I've run cuz it's such an acute pain for such a short time. So, the goal of the beer mile is simple. You run 1 mile and every quarter mile you have a beer. So, over the course of 1 mile you drink four beers. So, the gun goes off, beer one, quarter lap, beer two, quarter lap three, quarter lap four. There's a great photo I I wish I'd known you bring it up of me We'll call it an action shot immediately after crossing the finish line on all fours just just exiting all of the beer that I had. So, that's the beer mile. >> create the big arch mile? Uh I would do that. Interesting that you talk about the beer mile. How about the two beers, two cigs, two Rubik's Cube speed run? Jared. Uh this is if you were to look at your kind of elementary version of a physical challenge. Feels like it now. You know, let's Oh, he's got Ben's tie. My I don't know if it's 3 minutes 33 seconds. I can't remember the world record, but it's around a minute 30. You can see it up here. Will I beat that? I don't really know, but I'm hoping for under 2 minutes. Also, the up top camera is dead, so hopefully >> This guy's just on his patio. >> this. And he's got the specials. There we go. I mean, that first beer is what? Four gulps? Nice. Watch him rip this cig. Watch him rip this cig. It is absolutely absurd. How do you even speed smoke a cigarette? Like that. >> Just like this. That's I think technically sprint smoking a cig. It's uh Holy [ __ ] it's working. Is you saying bolting that [ __ ] That's crazy. It is unbelievable. The The hair, the suit. It's really Scott Adams's talent stark in its purest form, isn't it? >> Yeah. What's that? Yeah, beer's interesting, a unicycle's interesting, but a bear on a unicycle is [ __ ] fascinating. And then you two cigs So, there's got to be a strategy here, right? He starts off with the beer. >> the Joey Chestnut double dip. This makes sense. >> Two cigs I don't think you can do I think it's not allowed to do it, but look at his Look at his cumin. >> Oh, but see he's doing this. He's going to be dried up from the cig, so he'll want beer after the second cig. >> that's the way it goes. Yeah. Wish they had a shot of his dad crying inside watching this. Does he have like a whoop on? We need like a live tracker. >> What's his strain after this activity? >> He's on track for a world record here, right? And he's He must be thinking the pre Well, I guess you got a lot of nicotine in you, but he needs to down the beer quickly. Is it Oh, is it a world record? >> This is a world record. This is the world record This is the new world record. Was he creating the world record or was he trying to >> He was trying to beat it. It was 1:30 something. I like your idea. We need to get this guy in touch with with somebody at World Hands down. George, there's tens of them out there doing this. 128.3, dude. Jesus Christ. But then Wow. Herb is crazy. Imagine if he realized the camera wasn't rolling, the pain. Who is this small Asian kid he just showed? I think he just called someone out. Former champion. Yeah, that was the former champion that we know well. Jesus Christ. >> That was something. Well, yeah. I mean, that's what you've got to do next. The two beers, two six, two Rubik's Cube speed run. I did get challenged to do cuz I talked about the beer mile in content. I got challenged to do the Filet-O-Fish mile cuz I'm convicted on the fact that I think the Filet-O-Fish is the ultimate fast food sandwich. Okay. And so, I think what I'll do is I'll run a quarter mile and every quarter mile I'll get a Filet-O-Fish. >> Swim down the trash. >> Down a Filet-O-Fish, swim down another Filet-O-Fish. Mentally, I'll already be in Alcatraz. It doesn't matter where we swim. >> That's what That's what Russ actually is great at. So, Russ was the first guy to swim around the UK. He did it in 9 months, something like that. And he swam 6 hours on, 6 hours off for 9 months. He was just biphasic sleeping, 6 hours on, 6 hours off. And uh I had him on the show 18 months ago. And I was trying to work out like, what the [ __ ] is it with this guy? He's jacked. He's got this sort of never unhappy [ __ ] mentality, which is kind of crazy. Uh but what is it really that causes him to be so good? And I realized it's the fact is digestion system. Like, his capacity to digest food. For instance, he swam the longest river in Canada. I think he's done the longest river swim unbroken, 50 hours that he swam for without touching land, without stopping. 50 hours of swimming. Yeah. It's a delirious. He tried to do it in Italy and got hyp- othermia. Then tried to do it in America and got hypothermia. And then tried to do it in Canada and did it. He was so cold that the best way that he could heat his body was with piping hot porridge, like burning scalding hot porridge that he just ate and it warmed him from the inside. Like wearing a hot water bottle. And uh I realized he's able I I don't know about you. If I eat something, I have to be upright. If I try and lie down, it's so [ __ ] uncomfortable. I don't want to burp. It's awful. He's able to do it while swimming. Not only is he [ __ ] horizontal, motherfucker's swimming. So, yeah, I >> He's He's actively eating while striding in the water? Uh no, he'll stop and tread water and they'll throw like a banana on a bucket and he'll just [ __ ] force a banana down him, pour uh protein shakes and porridge and [ __ ] in him. >> of this guy? I need to see this. Didn't he swim like the entire coastline of Iceland or some [ __ ] >> He circumnavigated Iceland. Yeah. Ice swimming for this. It's just I mean it's the the mad thing about it is he makes it look so effortless. Like lots of people that do crazy things. It's not that Rubik's Cube thing. That is hilarious. Right. Watching Ross do it, it's just business as usual. If you've done it twice a day for 9 months, just business as usual. He's a [ __ ] freak. It's crazy. Well, you know, the the only thing I was going to do we've had like a lot of America chat and not much British chat. You two Yanks dominating things. So, um Hell yeah, we do. Let's go, baby. It's such a difference in reaction immediately. We would We only went on Facebook, don't we? The European mind can never comprehend >> What the [ __ ] is a kilometer? We don't know either. Okay, we don't use it. So, I've got um one of my favorite accounts called uh Mental UK Headlines. So, it's just different like mental [ __ ] that's happened in the UK, but it's like it's a specific type of mentalness that would only happen in the UK. So, um what do you think? Can you give me like the gong? You know, like the new station gong? Bong. Grandfather banned from US holiday after accidentally ticking terrorist box on visa form. Bong. Rescuers learn that the exotic bird that they found was actually a seagull covered in curry. Sean, that must have been you. That's a good one. Have you ever Have you ever Googled your birthday and Florida man? Oh, yeah. No. [ __ ] What's your birthday? April 25th. April 25th Florida man in Google, please. Ah. There you go. How do you know that? >> Why do you know that? A Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. Wow. Oh, 25th or 20th? I love it. Uh no, that's right. That's right. Oh, that's right. 20th. Not Hiller's? No, no, it's Okay, good. There we go. Open that up. Uh tried to ride an inflatable balloon to through the Bermuda Triangle. Nice. Hamster ball to the Bahamas. Wow, that got more extreme. A Florida man Go back at the Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. >> Oh, see, that's respectable. The other one >> Ball to the Bahamas. Ride a hamster was definitely exciting, but in a different way. >> Yeah. Look at that at the bottom. Orlando's first free STD testing and treatment clinic. Amazing. >> Hook up with us. No judgment, no cost, just care. Only the first one. How fantastic. All right. Orlando Weekly, we need to subscribe. Okay. Yeah, mine is Florida man arrested after dumping heaps of dirt on girlfriend's car. Heaps is an interesting word. How much is constitutes the arrest? Heaps? Take him to jail. There's a hilarious Reddit post on angry girlfriends. This girlfriend went and posted in the Am I the [ __ ] subreddit about her boyfriend. Jeremy, see if you can pull this up. It's a Am I the [ __ ] Yeah, Am I the [ __ ] He's been rating every meal she cooked for him for like secretly for over a year, and she got a clim- she got a glimpse of the spreadsheet and took a secret photo and posted on Reddit like, am I overreacting basically to to this spreadsheet? And so it'll be like, you know, spaghetti and meatballs 7.7. And Yeah, this is the screenshot. So she took this >> Zoom in. Yeah, you got to zoom in. That's where the magic is. There's really two incredible things in this screenshot. The first is the rating system and the count. So, she's made spaghetti and meatballs 282 times. The rating is 7.7. The average rating 7.5. So, you know, she did a little above average this time. But, the trend, three arrows up like the stock market. Spaghetti and meatballs is doing well. But, then all the women in the comment section just ripping him because he's also got like AI open asking how to grow his calves. And like all the women are like, "Well, tell that little bird calf [ __ ] that he needs to do this, this, and that." To increase your calf size, you must combine training that targets both the gastrocnemius and the soleus, the deeper flatter muscle. In daily life, they're normally fatigue resistant, specializing in techniques [ __ ] hell. What was the What was the lowest rating average overall? I'll see. She's got Chicken tacos 6.9. Chicken stir-fry, six. On Oh, yeah. The average six and a half there. That's not good. That's That's a tough dish, though. He has to like work in audit at Ernst & Young or something. This is insane. That's [ __ ] fantastic. I'm so glad you brought up Excel spreadsheets because I found something on how dogs can't get pregnant because of underwear. And I'm terrified of this. Uh Have you guys ever given any attention to this? The whole underwear thing, cotton clothing, and how it's a big part of the health and wellness world. Austin Floyd's massive on it. He won't shut up about it. >> Okay, do you do it? Do you pay attention? >> Bamboo cotton. I listen to him. I listen to stuff. Oh, is it microplastics? That's the issue or something else? Well, uh I I think we're all effectively, as we sit here, nuking our nuts. That's what I've gathered from this study. So, a study on Twitter from from the never-controversial account Carnivore Aurelius says, "Ladies, you need to be wearing cotton underwear." Now, this is targeted at women, but there's evidence for males as well. Polyester underwear on dogs tanked their progesterone 90%, which earlier we called out the ethics of studies and how we can't Do you anymore. Do we draw the line at making dogs infertile through human underwear? Polyester underwear on dogs tanked progesterone 90% from 15 nanograms per milliliter to five and 75% of them couldn't get pregnant. Polyester creates an electrostatic field that disrupts hormone production. 100% cotton only if you want babies. I have never paid any attention to this now and I don't think I own a single pair of cotton underwear. I thought this was fascinating. I'm doing the opposite. I'm going to do this as a form of birth control. I think I'm rather than a vasectomy, I'm just going to start polyester. I think I'm speed running infertility and I didn't even realize it from my underwear and not anything else in my lifestyle. So maybe a good incentive. George, what's your concern level? Um I would you constantly tell me about the sauna as well, right? The sauna's That's why we've got nutsicles in the freezer. You have nutsicles at the house? >> Nutsicles in the freezer. That's a Brian Johnson move right there. Yeah. Well, I've been doing it since >> a branded thing or you're calling it that? >> no, no. Nutsicles, they are purpose-built. Search just Google nutsicles for me, please, Chad. Nutsicles. Nutsicles. The dropshippers are undefeated. >> Like popsicles, but nutsicles. And uh yeah, they just Brian made this really great point, which is my uh sperm count went up a lot by me going in the sauna. Like but it only happened when I iced my They're over there. On the On the top left. Look at those. So they're special pants. I don't wear the pants cuz the pants are polyester, but I do just use >> The irony of that. I know. Uh but I just uh pop those on the outside. And uh Oh, I don't want to see the [ __ ] person. >> Don't show me the demo. Okay. Is he drinking a beer? Let me go back. It's supposed to be for vasectomy recovery or something. Bring him through. Yeah. Amazon model 30. Honestly, if Ben comes in with a [ __ ] pair of nutsicles bring >> we found the hook for the show. Everything that >> Bring him through. the viral person shows up and has to answer. >> Bring him on down. Um yeah, basically Brian couldn't work out whether or not his sperm count went up because sauna is great for his body or because he was icing his balls for 40 minutes a day. So, it might actually have just been the fact that he was putting them in a really cool environment that was helping to foster [ __ ] sperm >> why they're in the sack in the first place, right? Right. But, like we've taken them You've taken them from the [ __ ] freezer. Like, all right, this is a little bit >> a friend who does the face plunge you mentioned earlier to change his physiology to his nuts every single morning. Oh, like a nut dunk? Why didn't you say this when I mentioned the face plunge? Well, we had You held this secret close. You were talking about panic attacks. Is he I wouldn't have thought, "Ah, testicles, yes." He every morning for many years now he has dunked his nuts in a And I was like, "But, how do you I didn't ask for the demo, but he literally just sits down into an ice bowl every morning for about 2 minutes, and he said he's noticed difference in uh the way it hangs, if you will, and his sperm count also went up, and his member appears healthier and fuller now. Mhm. Pretty interesting stuff. So, Honestly, well, I mean, between that and sunning the [ __ ] butt hole, uh I guess it's you can go from one to the other. You could That's basically contrast therapy, but just for your [ __ ] groin, eh? Yeah. >> Yeah. Boys, I appreciate you being here. First one in the new studio. Some technical issues and all the rest of it. I hope everyone enjoyed Tom Cruise and everything else. I'm really excited. Thank you for being This feels like a like a real special moment to be able to do this for the first one. So, uh go to McDonald's, get yourself a Big Arch, and uh we'll see you next time. Woo. All right. Boys, yes. We did it. Amazing. Let's [ __ ] go. All right, dinner. For dinner. Dinner. Love you. All right.